1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: This is a young team. We're on the cuffs where 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: we got to ask some pieces to what we're doing here. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: Pierce running right, she couldn't move Carrolls. He played out 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: of the forty one yard line. You want to run 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: by Piers. The type of players that we're looking for 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: are players who are looking the swarms. Set usat that 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: question Harris game day, he is every day picked off 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: by State Lee Patrey. Texans have the ball on the pit. 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: The takeaway train is ruling, and if you want it, 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: you gotta go work. No, it's Texans all excess. Yes, sir, 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: it is John Harris, sideline reporter football Anas for your Texans, 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: coming to you live from Sport TRADEO six ten. We're 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: gonna hear from Mark Vanderer here in about nine minutes 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: to give his thoughts. He has been away this weekend. 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: He was away Friday, but he joined us for a 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: few minutes as he was taking Uber wherever. He wasn't 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: leaves in New York. So we'll get his thoughts on 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: everything that has happened thus far with the Texan. Don't 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: you want to get in? Get in seven three five, seven, 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: two four six ten. You got in on Friday you 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: had some good thoughts as it pertained to the Bears 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: and Panthers making that trade, Panthers moving to number one, 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: still don't I Everything that I talked about on Friday 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: still kind of holds true. And that's some of the 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: things that we heard. The Panthers not settled a one guy, 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: but they've got it narrowed down. They want to be 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: able to control the process at quarterback, and they're going 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: to control the process at quarterback at this point because 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: they need one. Sam Donald ain't coming back. He's going 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: to the forty nine ers. So today was the first 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: day of the league year. So if you want to 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: get in, like I said, someone three five, seven, two, four, six, ten, 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: we'll get marked in here about seven or eight minutes. 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: So what has transpired today? Now I know this happens. 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: I said this actually to Nick the last time we 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: were talking to him. Whenever you have cap space as 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: a GM and whatever your team does, you're a fan 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: of a team and you got cap space, you're like, 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: spend that ish, Come on, man, spend that cache. Right. Well, 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: it's not always quite like that, because you got to 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: make sure you have enough for your draft class. You 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: got to make sure you have enough for in season moves. 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: If you need to make those, You've got all kinds 44 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: of things you gotta handle. So even though it might 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: say forty one million dollars a cap space, it doesn't 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: always mean that you've got thirty five million to spread 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: around to a number of players. And it doesn't mean 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna make a big splash either. Now, the Texans 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: did make some things happen today, and it also made 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: something happen on Friday. So I walk out of here. 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: I don't know who's I think the show's over. Like 52 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: six fifty five, I'm saying goodbye to Joe. I get 53 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: in a card, go home at a pretty easy ride home. 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: I can home about seveifty and I check my phone. Boom. 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Robert Woods signs with the Texans thirty one year. A 56 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Bobby Trees coming to Houston. He built the 57 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: Titans last year. He was coming off in a cl 58 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: tear in twenty twenty one, and he was on his 59 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: way to having a good season at twenty one, then 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: towards a cl that forced the Rams going get ob j. 61 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: He's also a storyline. Now, we'll get to him a 62 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: little bit later, but Woods goes on I R came 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: back to the Titans. It never clicked. Never, And when 64 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: he was released, he had a one word tweet. It 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: just said free. It lost seven in a row. He's 66 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: coming to Houston. Brandon Cooks then tweeted to him as 67 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: if it was how do I say this if you're 68 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: if you're going, if you have a former teammate joining you, 69 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: Hey man, it's great to see you here. It's gonna 70 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: be awesome to be together here man in Houston. Nah, 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: it didn't. It didn't seem like that come from Brandon Cooks. 72 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: So I don't know what that means today was a 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: big zero role on wide receivers. Didn't see Really, if 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: I go back and look at my list, I don't 75 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: remember anything happening in the wide receiver market. Sterling Shephard 76 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: resigned with the Giants. I think that was to be expected. 77 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: It's like a million dollars, that's I think it. Now. 78 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: It depends on how you classify John Who Smith John 79 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: Who Smith got traded from the Patriots to the Falcons. 80 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: Are you're talking about a big winner in March? That 81 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: would be the Atlanta Falcons. They resigned Pro Bowl guard 82 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: Chris Lynstrom five years, one hundred five million dollars, and yes, 83 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: that's for a guard. So that's one thing that that 84 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: we've got to sort of change our thought process on 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: because the price tags going up all across the board 86 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: annual average twenty one million dollars for a guard. So 87 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna get pricey for certain positions. That one guy 88 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: you already have locked up Larmy Tunsil in one tackle 89 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: that well, he's been looking for the back since he 90 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: got in the league and probably deserves that the way 91 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: he played last year. That's Titus Hour. So it's gonna 92 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: be some rich, rich price tags. So it's okay in 93 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: some sense. The Texan didn't do a ton today because well, 94 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: they've got some bills that are gonna come do now. 95 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: I know. One of the things that popped up was 96 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: and Aaron Wilson tweets saying that the Chiefs had had 97 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: some communication about Laramie Tunsil, but then the Chiefs ended 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: up signing Juan Taylor, and the thought as Juan Taylor's 99 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: gonna go over to the left tackle and go back 100 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: over there. He's been the right tackle for Jacksonville Jaguars. Again, 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: he signed a four year, eighty million dollars deal to 102 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: go over to the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs, the Chiefs 103 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: are not bringing back Orlando Brown right tackle as Wiley 104 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: ended up signing a deal with the Washington Commanders, So 105 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: the Chiefs lost both offensive tackles. I don't see the 106 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Chiefs being able to afford all those stars and Juan 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: Taylor and larrymu Tunsil. So I think the Taylor moved 108 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: into that it's not gonna happen now. I don't know 109 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: where the Texans told them just flat out no, I 110 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: don't know, but just know that that was brought up 111 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: from Aaron Wilson. But probably the best news of the 112 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: days the Texans ended up adding to the quarterback room case. 113 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: Keenum coming back to Houston. You know him from Houston 114 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Cougar days. Hopefully you know him from the three years 115 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: he spent in Houston. And i'd say three years, I 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: mean it was really twelve and thirteen, and then in 117 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: fourteen and Mark and I've talked about this. We'll talk 118 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: to Mark here in a couple of minutes about this. 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen one of my favorite, one of my favorite 120 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: days on the sideline case keenom starts against the Baltimore Ravens. 121 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: The Ravens are on their way to the playoffs. The 122 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: Texans have to win the last two games of the year, 123 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: have to to get to nine and seven and have 124 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: a shot for the playoffs. Now. They leaded a little 125 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: bit of help from the Browns to beat the Ravens 126 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: in the last week of the year. They didn't get 127 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: that ultimately, but in Week sixteen against the Baltimore Ravens, 128 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Case Keenum through dimes early on, he hit Andre Johnson 129 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: down the sideline. First drive led to a touchdown Aaron Foster, 130 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: I think through a half back pass the CJ Fedorwitz. 131 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: It was one of the most impressive performances that I 132 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: had seen from a Texans team, because that was a 133 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: team that I mean, I had no idea. I mean, 134 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: case Keenum is gonna what's he gonna do? He was 135 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: just he was a deer blind last weekend. He's gonna 136 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: win this game against the Ravens, and he did, and 137 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: then he beat the Jags. But it was after that 138 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: where he really got a chance to shine, in particular 139 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: in Minnesota in twenty seventeen. Now, last year, lay Me 140 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: had Josh Allen Superman didn't. I think he played three games, 141 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: and I know that you threw it a whole heck 142 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: of a lot, if at all. But back in twenty 143 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: twenty one, when Baker Mayfield was hurt with the Browns, 144 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: Case stepped in. It did a really solid job for 145 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: the Browns to a point where you could see how 146 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: the Browns reacted to him out on a field. It 147 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: was really impressive. They really appreciated his leadership what he 148 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: was giving them at the time. But ultimately, Baker was 149 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: the first round pick. He'd go into the playoffs the 150 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: year before, He'd take him to the Visional playoff round 151 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs and they lost I think by fuel 152 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: goal or touchdown or whatever it was. Baker was the 153 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: future at that point. They had to get Baker back 154 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: in the lineup. But you could tell Lebrown's rated around 155 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: Case Keenham in large part because he's one of the 156 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: better leaders. He understands the offense, and that's a It's 157 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: not an analogous, one hundred percent analogous offense to what 158 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: he'll do here in Houston, but there are some elements 159 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: that are there, and Case has been around, He's seen 160 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: offenses before. I think, whatever he's got to do to 161 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: pick this up, he is going to be able to 162 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: pick it up and pick it up pretty easily. So 163 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: case Keenham comes back to Houston, comes back to the Texans. 164 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: What that means for Davis Mills, no idea. I've seen 165 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: some people speculating, Oh, there's no way he's Davis is out. 166 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: E J. Perry was claimed now waivers, he'll get into 167 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: the mix as a second year, let's say second years. 168 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I think twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two was his 169 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: first year in the league, and he kind of bounced 170 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: in and out of practice squads, all that kind of stuff, 171 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: and then when he was released by the Jaguars and 172 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: Texans picked him up. EJ. Perry nephew John Perry, form 173 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers, coach, wonderful athlete. He's essentially the twenty twenty 174 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: three version of Jeff Driscoll. But he could throw a 175 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: little bit better than Jeff could. At the beginning, he 176 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: just started throwing it a little bit better. But EJ's 177 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: got that kind of athleticism. What this means for Davis Mills, 178 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: no idea, none whatsoever, But I think it does signal 179 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: the fact that Texans will I would say I never 180 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: want anything one hundred percent certainty, never nothing with one 181 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: hundred percent certainty. But I got a ninety nine point 182 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: nine percent thought that the Texans are taking a quarterback 183 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: at two the be a TJ. Strab, Bryce Young, whomever. 184 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: There's been so many rumors over the weekend after that 185 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: Panthers Bears deal. So we'll end up seeing what that 186 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: what that means. So I don't know. We'll talk to 187 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: Mark here in a second, Chris Ander, you're working on 188 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: getting Mark on the phone, so we'll get him on 189 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: the line. Just signal to me when he's here. But 190 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: case Keenum joins the Texans again. I believe it's his 191 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: eleventh year in the league. And I remember having this 192 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: discussion on radio too many many years ago as his 193 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: case is gonna be around. I mean, would you ever 194 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: thought cases gonna have eleven of your career? You didn't 195 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: get drafted. He signs with the Texans and here he 196 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: is still around the league. And Landry made a great 197 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: point today. I was listening in the lab in the 198 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: Lab that's my podcast tomorrow in the Loop, and Landry 199 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: made a comment about coaches from the state of Texas. 200 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Because coaches are players from the state of Texas. They 201 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: get coached really well in the state. So Chase Daniel 202 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: case Keenum guys that have been around forever because they 203 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: know the game, and coaches trust him and they understand 204 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: their role. And I don't know exactly what cases role 205 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: will be. I know that he will no matter what. 206 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: You have Davis Mills in there, he's in his third year. 207 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: You have EJ. Perry in there, he's in his really 208 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: his first complete year, and then you bring a rookie 209 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: in there that's his first year. I don't want to 210 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: say you need a dult in the room, but you 211 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: need adult in the room. So you're you got one 212 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: with case Keenum. I think you got one of the 213 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: better ones. And that's kind of the wrong way to 214 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: phrase it, but you know what I mean. You know 215 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's a guy that I think 216 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: is going to add to this roster. Maybe not in 217 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: the on field product, but at some point, your backup 218 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: has got to play, and case Keenum is gonna have 219 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: to come in and play at some point. And when 220 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: he did in Cleveland twenty twenty one, he was fantastic 221 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. He didn't have to because Superman 222 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: really had no kryptonite, even though Josh probably could have 223 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: taken a game or two to get some rest and 224 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: not getting beat on a little bit. So we'll see 225 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: what ends up happening here. We're trying to get Mark 226 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: on the line here were the word in the business 227 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: is called efforting. That's the word in the business. So 228 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: we're efforting Mark at this point. Now. It wasn't done 229 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: for the Texans today. Not one of these you would say, oh, massive, 230 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: massive move. But I think in the aggregate you can 231 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: kind of see where they're trying to spend money. Guys 232 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: that have got still some juice left, Guys that maybe 233 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: have not gotten a shot, maybe they've fallen on a 234 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: favor somewhere for whatever reason. Andrew Beck four years in Denver, 235 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: played a lot of games there. We saw him in 236 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: two when we went up there. Fullback, tight end type blocker, 237 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: physical play at the University of Texas. I don't know 238 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: how much he'll give you in a passing game. He 239 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: hasn't cut a lot of passes in his career. I 240 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: think it's numbers what he caught fourteen he caught fourteen 241 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: over four years. So I'm not expecting Andrew Beck to 242 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: break records in the passing game, but I am expecting 243 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: him to split some wigs. I am expecting you to 244 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: be physical at the point of attack. I am expecting 245 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: him to line up in a number of different spots. 246 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: Now does he play more tight end? Is he more fullback? 247 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: You've got Troy Hairston on the roster. Your Troy made 248 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: that transition from linebacker to fullback. Troy is a linear, 249 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: one way train coming out of tracks. Now do they 250 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: want to get more on Troy? Do they want to 251 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: use Beck and Troy together? I don't exactly know how 252 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: they want to do it. But Andrew Beck on the roster. 253 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: I just love the fact that you're adding more physicality 254 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: to the roster. So Andrew Beck on board, Case Keenum 255 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: on board, Mike Boone running back, We'll be added to 256 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: the mix. Now, one thing I'll say, because they've added 257 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: players at these positions, doesn't mean they won't draft guys 258 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: at those particular positions. I mean, last year they went 259 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: out and got Dario Goombuala had Royce Freeman, and I've 260 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: been trying to think did they have try to think 261 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: what other running back they had the stable. It didn't matter, 262 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: oh Rex Rex, they had three or four running backs 263 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: already the stable. They drafted Dami appears and by week two, 264 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: one week one, more so week two, he ended up 265 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: becoming the starter. So just because these guys are added 266 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: during free agency doesn't mean the Texas won't do something 267 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: during the draft at all. Well, Mike Boone added to 268 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: the mix. Played last year in Denver. So he and 269 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: Andrew Beck. So whoever was the pro scout for Denver 270 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: probably gonna get a few a few gold stars for 271 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: his work in bringing in Andrew Beck and also Mike Boone. 272 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: Then defensive end Chase Winovich. He have the blonde locks. 273 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: If you follow the Michigan football, maybe it did, maybe 274 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: he didn't. But back in the damn Michigan Chase Winovich 275 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: with the gold flowing locks had an opportunity of Patriots. 276 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: I thought he had a decent rookie year. He's got 277 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: some twitch off the edge. And I don't know if 278 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: Chase Winovich was playing A and Obo was playing B 279 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: or vice versa or not or the way they wanted both. 280 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: But they bring in Chase Winovich. Obo takes a deal 281 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: to go to the Cleveland Browns. So good on OBO. 282 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: He made the most of his one year here in Houston. 283 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna get paid. He's not gonna get Miles Garrett money. 284 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna get good money and rewarded for what he 285 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: can do based on what he did in Houston this 286 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: past year. So Chase Winovich comes in. He's got some twitch, 287 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: he's got some power off the edge. I think he's 288 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: a decent fit for this defense. So Chase Winovich is 289 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: added as well. Then, and I was not surprised to 290 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: see this because forty nine ers played for Damiko Ryan's. 291 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: Hassan Ridgeway is from the state of Texas. He played 292 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: at the University of Texas. He went to Mansfield High School. 293 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Hassan Ridgeway Now he went on IR in December, middle 294 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: of December and missed from middle December of the rest 295 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: of the year. He tore peck muscle. But if he's 296 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: back healthy, he is six three three uh five. He 297 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: is nothing but muscle strengthen quickness. I mean he is 298 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: he could get up the field. He is strong. He's 299 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: actually got pretty good pass rush, acumen, good feet, agile, athletic. 300 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: I went back to look at his scouting report back 301 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, So he goes backways. Now he's gonna 302 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: be twenty eight to start the season, twenty nine once 303 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: you get into the season. But I don't think you're 304 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: asking his son Ridgeway to play fifty sixty plays a game. 305 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: You're asking him to play twenty to twenty five plays. 306 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Good in the rotation kind of guy. But man, he's 307 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: got some athleticism. And the one thing I wrote my 308 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: scouting report of him from twenty sixteen come out of 309 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: Texas was wildly athletic, but injuries were an issue. And 310 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: then of course you see that he's got the tour 311 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: and peck and he missed the last you know, he 312 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs in the last few weeks year. But 313 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: peck injury, you think he come back from that. We 314 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: saw Winnie mercial has come back from that. So J. J. 315 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: Watt come back from it during a year, So peck 316 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: injury shouldn't shut him down. But he adds to the 317 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: defensive line rotation. He's gonna know this defense and look 318 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: up front. There are a lot of similarities to the 319 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: things that love he did, to what Demiko did. They're 320 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: probably just gonna be spun a different way, and some 321 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: of the coverages behind them are gonna be a little 322 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: bit different. So and there are a number of different 323 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: unique blitz packages and stunts and schemes that Demiko was 324 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: thrown at defense or the offenses, and love he wasn't running. 325 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: But for man's surface, I think San Ridgeway fits in very, 326 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: very well. Now. We just got to try and keep 327 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: him healthy. That's that's the whole thing. We gotta try 328 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: and keep him as healthy as possible. All right, seven one, three, five, seven, two, four, six, ten. 329 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: We're efforting, Mark, But I want to hear from you 330 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: those the Texans again agreed to terms. Nothing is one 331 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: hundred percent official until when day at the start of 332 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: the new league year, but added to the Texans are 333 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: soon to be case Keenum, Mike Boone, Chase win of 334 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: h defensive end, defensive tackle, Hassan Ridgeway, fullback, tight end 335 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Beck, and then on Friday, wide receiver Robert Woods. 336 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: Now I said earlier that wide receiver hasn't been a 337 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: lot of movement. In fact, I think the Texans were 338 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: one of the few teams to do something at the 339 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver position. Obj hasn't signed anywhere. We haven't seen 340 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: any of the free agents, Jacobe Myers, Paris Campbell, any 341 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: of them move. And I don't know if they're just 342 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: waiting a day or waiting. Somebody's waiting to have, you know, 343 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: one Domino dropping, then the rest of them will. I 344 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: don't know. But what's missing that list? What do you 345 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: want to see? I've heard a lot of talk about 346 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: a center, So what do you want to see at 347 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback, running back, defensive end, efensive tackle, fullback, slash, 348 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: tight end. Who do you want in? We'll try and 349 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: get Mark on the line. We'll listen. We'll hear from 350 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: you next right here on Texans All Access More Texans 351 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: Radio is on the way back to the show. They 352 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: teach you plugged in with a Houston Texans Yes, Sarah's 353 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Texas All Access Simy host John Harris Football and a 354 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: sideline reporter. And I know a lot of you were 355 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: thinking about Bradley Boseman as a free agent center prospect 356 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: for the Texans. Not gonna happen. The Panthers will resign him. 357 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: They just put that on their Twitter. Actually, Darren Gant, 358 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: who writes for the Panthers, put that on his Twitter 359 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Panthers bringing back Bradley Bozeman. So he is out seven 360 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: with three, five, six, ten. Let's go to the phones, Chris, 361 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: talk to don Don what's going on, my man? How 362 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: you doing? I was doing fine till I watched the 363 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: end of this day. They were just too you know, 364 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: at number one, I didn't want them to take one 365 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks. I wanted to take the second best 366 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: athlete in the draft. And they're not gonna do that. 367 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Now they have to take a quarterback number one, number two. 368 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: If they're gonna do that, why did they get Garoppolo? 369 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean that was a very affordable price. We could 370 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: have been good next year. They're doing the same thing 371 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: to Demko that they did to Smith and Cully. They're 372 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: doing the exact same thing. When are they gonna stop 373 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: this to start playing the playing for real? I've been 374 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: at season ticket horse since day one. Don't sell my tickets, 375 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: don't miss games, And this is what you know, this 376 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: is what's happened with the team again. What do you 377 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: got to say about it? All? Right, here's what I 378 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: have to say. First of all, when it comes to 379 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: free hc donn it takes two to tango. So when 380 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: it comes to Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't know that Jimmy 381 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: Garopolo wanted to come to Houston. That I think is 382 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: gets lost in all this this This isn't hey, we 383 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: want you here. You're here the only the only time 384 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: that happens is in the draft. So Jimmy may not 385 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: have wanted to come here anyways. Jimmy may have been 386 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: using the Texans. There may have been other players that 387 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: didn't want to come here the last couple of years. 388 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: They may have been throwing the lines in the water 389 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: and nobody was Biden. That could absolutely have been the case. 390 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: They may have wanted Jimmy two. Maybe everybody in the 391 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: building wanted Jimmy except for Tyler Milner. But guess she's 392 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: gotta want Houston. Jimmy Garoppolo. So there's no telling that 393 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: you know in a situation. Well, well, you had a 394 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: connection with with the forty nine ers, and you had 395 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: a connection with Dumiko, and he had a connection with Nick. Yeah, 396 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: he's got the same thing in Las Vegas where Dave 397 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Ziegler was important when he was drafted as the GM. 398 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: Josh mcdani, whoso coached him for a few years. When 399 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: it comes to free agency, it takes two two tango. 400 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: And when you hear guys in free agency, what are 401 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: they like? They're like money and they're like an opportunity 402 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: to win a championship. It takes two. Jimmy's gotta be 403 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: able to say I'm coming to Houston also, and Jimmy 404 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: wanted to come to Houston. Guess what. I had a 405 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: feeling in Texas. Probably would have paid some bucks to 406 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: do it. And trust me, if you watch the team 407 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: last couple of years, there are some free agents that 408 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: I would imagine didn't want to come to Houston. They 409 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: had opportunities. I could promise you lines have been in 410 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: the water, and once this thing starts turning around, there 411 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: might be more people that say, you know what, I 412 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: want to come to Houston. There's a lot of advantages 413 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: and a lot of good things about coming to Houston. 414 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, picking it two, I want a quarterback. 415 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be purgatory for another year and wait for 416 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. There's no guarantee. I brought that up 417 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 1: as an opportunity as a thought, but I didn't think 418 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: they were gonna go there right youngs. He just drotted 419 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: good enough to win football games this year, just as 420 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: much as Jimmy. Maybe you don't get to eight nine wins, 421 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: but Jimmy look said Houston was like, man, you guys 422 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: are at the you know you guys are you know 423 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: team thirty one thirty two from last year the Raiders. Man, 424 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: they got Renfro, they got Waller, they got Davante, you 425 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: got running Amy Josh Jacobs easton Las Vegas, and he 426 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: knows the staff, he knows that offense. Yeah, he knew 427 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: guys here with the forty nine ers. But I had 428 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: heard things at the very end there was not great 429 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: with Kyle Shannah and Jimmy Garoppolo. So that one move 430 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: doesn't make what's happened here. That's the right way of 431 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: saying this, that there isn't positive progress. Don and I 432 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: appreciate look frustrated too. Do you think I like being 433 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: down on the sidelines and we're getting beat thirty one 434 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: and nothing a half? Hell no, I don't want that. 435 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: You think Mark wants to call game thirty one and nothing? No, Mo. 436 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: When it comes to free agency and it comes to signings, 437 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: that guy has to choose here too. That guy has 438 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: to choose here. If that means you have to pay 439 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: a premium er, how much you're gonna pay above what 440 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: the Raiders were gonna pay. I'm not down for that. 441 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take cost controlled number two pick in the draft, 442 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: put it on the quarterback, and start building this thing 443 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: going forward. All right, Chris, we got Mark on the line. 444 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the line. I just kinda 445 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: let it go a little bit. Let's talk to our buddy, 446 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: Mark Vannier. Mark, good evening, my friend. How are you 447 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: good evening? Johnny? All right, I'm settled now. I had 448 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: some phone issues and can't wait to get home. By 449 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: the way, being studio with you do a nice show. 450 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: Be great, all this stuff going on, Case Keenom not Mania. 451 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: But is it approval in the city of Houston, because 452 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm out of town right now, in case anybody needed 453 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: to know that. Is it approval or is it because 454 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: I endorse this message of Case Keenom coming to the 455 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. You know, you and I talked about the 456 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: possibility of Jimmy and you just brought it up again, 457 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: and we're talking about Jimmy as the Seinfeld. Jimmy the 458 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy and the third person Jimmy. Jimmy wants more money. 459 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy might want the Raiders and he did. I totally 460 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: think that's the case. It's a better spot for him. 461 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: He gets a better chance to play longer. For instance, 462 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: if the Texans signed Jimmy Garoppolo and they drafted Bryce Young, CJ. 463 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: Straut or whoever, relatively early, people are going to be 464 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: clamoring for that quarterback, maybe from the get go, and 465 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: certainly at the first non convert of a third down, right, 466 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna be, well, I'll put Bryce in there. Come on, 467 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Anyway, let's go. And Jimmy 468 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: doesn't want that, and the tech sends I doubt would 469 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: want to pay Jimmy Garoppolo the money that he got 470 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: from the Raiders. So this works out. Well, you're gonna 471 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: be and I didn't hear your take on Case, but 472 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. You said something like you 473 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: are going to get the very best of whatever is 474 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: left of case Keendom's football ability. You're gonna get the 475 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: very best of him because he's a competitor, he wants 476 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: to win, he wants to play. Yet he also understands 477 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: the situation if you draft a quarterback high, which they're 478 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: likely to do of course, And I think he's kind 479 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 1: of the perfect guy for this. You can win with him. 480 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: You can win some games with him. You know, we 481 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: all would rather, you know, not have to do it, right, 482 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I love Case, but it'd be great if 483 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: Davis Mills could be that guy. But he's not that guy, 484 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: because who's that guy? Maybe he'd be starting for you. 485 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: So right now you have Case Keenum and you'll draft 486 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Yeah, absolutely, And look these quarterbacks at the top. 487 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: It's not as if you're getting Option three or four 488 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: you're getting you're getting one or two. And in some cases, 489 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: maybe if Anthony Richardson goes one, which some people have rumored, 490 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: you're you're probably getting your choice of the quarterback on 491 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: your boards. I just don't imagine Anthony Richardson is at 492 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: the top of the detectives board. So you're getting a top, 493 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, a top quarterback. This isn't last year's class 494 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: where there was one quarterback that went in the first round. 495 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: That's not what this is. So I think there's excitement 496 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: about Case coming back, but I also think there's pragmatism 497 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: for the most part, about you know, cases and coming 498 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: back to be the starter. I think most people are 499 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: looking at it mark going Okay, this confirms our thought 500 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: that there will be a quarterback taking at number two. 501 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: I think that's what the case Keenum signing did for 502 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people today. What it means for Davis Mills, 503 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't know what that's 504 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: gonna mean, but I think it does indicate that you 505 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: are and that the Texans are going to take a 506 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: quarterback and number two, which everybody thought, and that's okay. 507 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: Just take the guy that well you would think the 508 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: Panthers don't take. And if Frank Reich loves Anthony Richardson, 509 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: well then you got Stroud and you got Young right there. 510 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: Make the pick and start building this thing going forward 511 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: with a franchise quarterback, a guy you haven't had, you know, 512 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: on the field sincee twenty twenty, because obviously we didn't 513 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: see the Seawan in twenty twenty one at all. So 514 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: get a franchise quarterback out on the field and get 515 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: this thing turned around and get these fans excited about 516 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: what Bryce Young or c. J. Stroud can do. Out 517 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: on a field. So yeah, look, Jimmy Garoppolo going to 518 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: the Raiders. We knew he's gonna have some suitors. We 519 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be Raiders, Jets, Texans, maybe one 520 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: other team that we didn't know about, Panthers potentially, But 521 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: then the Panthers traded, so they you pretty much knew 522 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: they were gonna be out of the mix. So it 523 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: was really those three teams, and so you had a market, 524 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: and the Raiders offered an opportunity, especially when Jared Stidham left. 525 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: When Stidham left, the Raiders had nothing. They had nothing. 526 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: They had the seventh pick. They weren't getting a quarterback 527 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: seven because it was probably gonna go quarterbacks at one, two, three, four, 528 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: So you weren't getting a quarterback at seven. The Texans 529 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: have the wherewithal to go get a quarterback their way 530 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: through the draft. The Raiders weren't gonna be able to 531 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: do it through the draft. They would have to trade 532 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: up to the Cardinals and give away a bunch of Instead, 533 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: they can get Jimmy and away you go. Now you 534 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: can backfire on him because Jimmy could win enough games 535 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: where they'll be picking about the same spot next year, 536 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: if they're not totally happy with him, I think the 537 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: Raiders will still take a quarterback, maybe later second round ish, 538 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a hinded hooker or something like that 539 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: that they could put behind Jimmy in a way, you go, 540 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: but he goes to the Raiders. And again, like I said, Mark, 541 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo had to decide the Houston Texans too. It 542 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: takes two to dance, not just one. And yes, you 543 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: could have offered him a boatload of money, but would 544 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: that have done that? Would that have done any good 545 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: for the franchise? No, I don't think it would help. 546 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it would have at all. That's that's 547 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: not going to help you, and it's probably not going 548 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: to help him except financially. And that's not what the 549 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: goal is here. The goal is here to build a 550 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: winner over a long period of time, and a quarterback 551 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: factors in. Now, you know who's not gonna tell you 552 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: that they're gonna draft a quarterback at two, Nick Casserio. 553 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: Next time we have him on, we can ask him 554 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: that question all we want. He's not going to tell you. 555 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 1: And I'll say this, it's less likely to happen if 556 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: we're playing. More likely to happen here today, which we 557 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: sometimes do earlier in the week, but less likely that 558 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: they pass up a quarterback at two. But stranger things 559 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: have happened in the civilization of mankind, right, the stranger 560 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: things have happened. What if they do like Hendon Hooker 561 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: or one of these other guys, I don't know, maybe 562 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: Levis drops and they take him at twelve. I still 563 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: think Keenam is the perfect guy for those scenarios as well, 564 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: because he can play hold it down and then you 565 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: can ease the other guy in you mentioned last year. 566 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: Let's say it was last year and you did take 567 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett at twelve or maybe even at the end 568 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: of the first round if he was going to last 569 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: that long. Keena would have been a good guy for that. 570 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: Keenham replaced Trubisky in Buffalo as Trubisky went to Pittsburgh 571 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: and Pickett eventually got the job. Obviously, did they ever 572 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: go to Rudolph at all last year? I don't know. 573 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: But what the point is this Keenam's got ability and 574 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: you and I think correct me if I'm wrong, felt 575 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: similarly about this. After what we saw in those final 576 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: two games, of twenty fourteen. I thought, why don'd you 577 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: keeping Keenam around? Why don't you go ahead, Bill O'Brien 578 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: and Rick Smith and sign him to a longer deal. 579 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: Not saying that he's definitely the guy, but imagine if 580 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: Keenam is battling for the job with Ryan Mallett instead 581 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: of Brian Hoyer. No offense to Brian Hoyer, but that 582 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: would have been interesting to me to have Keenam still 583 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: a Texan, because, Johnny, he's played and won some big 584 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: games in this league since he left the Texans. Minnesota 585 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: obviously the most notable because he had it going on 586 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: there and they made it to the NFC Championship game. 587 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: I know they needed the miracle to do it, but 588 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: he executed the miracle, so good for him. He's got ability. 589 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: He's going to help this team. But we all want 590 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: to see who the young guys going to be, and 591 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: we're all waiting with eager anticipation for that, no doubt, Mark, 592 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining me. We'll see when you get 593 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: back here tomorrow. Thanks Johnny, looking forward to the show. 594 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: You got it all right? See four six ten. Chris, 595 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: Let's go out to Matt online one he wants to 596 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: talk about this first pick and missing out on Jimmy 597 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: g Matt, what's going on, my man? Welcome to the show. Hey, Johnny, 598 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: thanks for getting me on man. And I would say, uh, 599 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: this new taking calls approach with y'all show, I think 600 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: is a good addition. I've kind of been waiting on it. 601 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: You would you don't get enough interaction with the with 602 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: the audience, Johnny, you need more interaction. Well, I appreciate that. 603 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: I will. I will tell you, Matt, it's it's logistically 604 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: difficult to do it most times, so that's really kind 605 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: of the reason we don't do it. But on nights 606 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: like this, yeah, we gotta do it. We gotta do 607 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: what's on your mind, Matt. Yeah. So Garoppolo to me, 608 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: never made sense unless you bring it in. I got 609 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: like Richardson, who is a you know, he's needing to 610 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: sit for a little while. If it's Strout or Bryce Young, 611 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: then they're ready to go. So they never made sense. 612 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: And I'm so happy to see my guy k back in. 613 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: Fellow Coogan. Uh yeah, I'm with the Vandermer. I wish 614 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: it never would have let him go earlier, you know 615 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: when when uh when we had him and let him 616 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, kind of uh win that job at that moment. 617 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: But so it makes sense with taste uh this first pig, Johnny, 618 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to pin you down on who you 619 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: would would make uh this pick. For the way I 620 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: see it is, Uh, between Bryson Stroud, you've got a 621 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: bigger guy. And I sense that this guy intentionally did not, 622 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: uh was not wanting to be a mobile quarterback. Because 623 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: you saw he is fully capable of being a mobile 624 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: quarterback in the Georgia game. He intentionally decided to try 625 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: to protect himself and not get hurt. So he's got 626 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: that capability. He's bigger than Bryce, he's more accurate than Bryce. 627 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: It's it's it's almost somewhat of a no brainer. Clearly, 628 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: you don't know what the future is, but if you're 629 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: looking at the the you know the statistics, the measurables, 630 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: Stroud is the guy. And I do believe that India 631 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: has made this or that the Panthers have made this move. 632 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: And you know we're gonna have a guy who I 633 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: think there are some question marks here. So you know 634 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: it is a tough thing. You just you I guess 635 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: you just have to take the risk if it is Bryce, 636 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: But who are you taking Johnny, if it's Uh, if 637 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: it's your pig man at number one or two, whatever 638 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: you want to however you want to play this out, 639 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: all right, Matt, I appreciate the call. Here. Here, this 640 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: is the this, this is really simple. This is to 641 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: me because I know you asked me. If the Panthers 642 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: go Strout, I go Young. If the Panthers go Young, 643 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: I go Strout. I could I've said it. I said 644 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: it Friday. These two are really really close, and I 645 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: think Matt pointed out the reasons why I think CJ's 646 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: ball placement is as good as it gets now. CJ 647 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: also especially well the last two years, his first year 648 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty twenty through two offensive Rookie of the Year, 649 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: Garret Wilson Offensive Rookie of the ye I think runner 650 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: up trists Lave and Jackson Smith and Jagbup who is 651 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: probably gonna be a top fifteen pick in his draft 652 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: his past year through to Marvin Harrison Junior, arguably the 653 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: best draft prospect in all of college football, including Young Stroud, 654 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: Will Anderson, Jaylen Carter. If Marvin Harrison Junior were in 655 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: his draft. He may go one number one, he may 656 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: have gone number one, but he's gone back. He has 657 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: to go back for a year because he hasn't been 658 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: through three years. My point of that is, it was 659 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: really it was really easy for Stroud. To be honest, 660 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: he threw be had a great line, he threw the 661 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 1: great receivers. Bryce really didn't have that. Bryce really didn't 662 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: have that. Not this year. He threw a bunch of 663 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: young dudes. His offensive line was not very good. You 664 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: watch this offensive line for Alabama this past one that 665 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: he had. They will have no better, no better than 666 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: a third rounder on that front five. So, yeah, Bryce 667 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: had to learn how to deal with a little bit 668 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: of adversity at Alabama. And yeah, he's short, he's not 669 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: the biggest guy in the world. But in the fourth quarter, 670 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: to me, when it matters, we've seen Bryce Young take 671 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: that Alabama program and put it on his shoulders and 672 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: win games. They had no business beating Auburn. In twenty 673 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: twenty one, Bryce carried him. They had no business beating Texas. 674 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: Bryce made magic happened somehow, seeing a corner cap, blitz 675 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: evading it, ducking under it, running for a first down, 676 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: setting up a game winning field goal, beating Texas twenty 677 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: to nineteen on a day that nothing went right for 678 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: Alabama because the offense was a disorganized mess starting from 679 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: the top. Bryce did all he could to save it 680 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: that day, and he did. Now, this is one of 681 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: those things where it's almost like I'm arguing, Hey, John, 682 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: do you wanna do you wanna you wanna banana split? 683 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: Or do you want a I don't know, a strawberry shake. 684 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: That's my choice. Man, I'm gonna get that either way. Okay, 685 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: I'll take either. I would rather have a strawberry shake, 686 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: but man Nan splits great. So that's my analogy using desserts. 687 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: I guess I'm kind of hungry, Chris. It's all right, 688 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: but that's kind of the way I look at it. 689 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you can go wrong with either. 690 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: I think both of them would end up fitting in 691 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: this offensive scheme that Bobby Slow Scott. I think Bryce's 692 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: movement skills would be very good in it. I think 693 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: his understanding of reading defenses would be exceptional in it. 694 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: I think CJ. Stroude would be exceptional in it. And 695 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: you brought up a point about Stroud's movement against Georgia 696 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: Stroud and Bryce has actually said this too. They don't 697 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: like to scramble to run. They like to scramble to 698 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: throw to open things up. And I'll tell you this, 699 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: as a defensive back, the one thing that I never 700 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: wanted to see was a quarterbacks start to take off 701 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: and buy time in the pocket. Now I played ware 702 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: reckon thet we know as available as it is now, 703 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: But every time I saw a quarterback scramble, because there's 704 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: a defensive back now you've got to start looking at receivers. 705 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: You don't know where they're gonna go. After he starts 706 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: to scramble. Is he gonna go deep? Is that guy 707 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: gonna cut across? Do I have to plaster that receiver? 708 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: Or that? It puts defensive backs in a lot of issues. 709 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: So I like guys that will scramble to throw. What 710 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: the best in the game has learned Patrick Mahomes is 711 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: that he can scramble to throw and run. He can 712 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: do both. And now you're really on your heels and 713 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: nobody's really figured out how to stop Patrick Mahomes because 714 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: of it. And I think both these guys Shroud and 715 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: Young have that I don't trust Levis and Richardson to 716 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: do that. I think both Bryce and c J can 717 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: hurt you from the pocket. I think they can hurt 718 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 1: you on the move. I think they are both cerebral 719 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: cerebral cerebral. I think there's cerebral. I think you interested 720 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: in game, you could see Bryce. I saw this against Tennessee. 721 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: He would not be at all cadence, meaning a lot 722 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: of times quarterbacks go to line, I have a double cadence. 723 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: So what they do is they go hold on, and 724 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: that is only to see if they'll get the defense 725 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: to declaire, And if they get the defense to declaire, 726 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: then they might change the protection or maybe even change 727 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: the place. Against Tennessee, he goes how he gives a 728 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: double cadence, and he saw the nickel about to blitz. 729 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: He walked up to the line, he changed the protection, 730 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: he slid it where the blitz was coming from, and 731 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: he was absolutely dead on. He was able to throw 732 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: a dig route about fifteen yards old, basic route, bang, 733 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: bang it first down. Those are the things that you 734 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: get with Bryce Young. Yeah you don't get six foot 735 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: two two fifteen, but that's what you get with Bryce Young. 736 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: And I guarantee you he's gonna do some things and 737 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: it'll light energy stadium up. It'll light it up. But 738 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: you know what, CJ Shot can do those things too. CJ. 739 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: Stry will make some throws that you'll have to look 740 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: up at the video board and go whoa. It's like 741 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: the dunk contest sometimes when you see it dunk in 742 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: a dunk contest, what do you do? You're like, huh 743 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: what wait? What was that? And then you look at 744 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: the replay You're like, Oh, that's the way CJ's job 745 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: throws a football. Lionel, you stay where you are. We 746 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: gotta take a break. We're gonna talk a little bit 747 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: more about this quarterback situation and give you a breakdown 748 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: and what happened, especially inside the AFC South. The Jags 749 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: loss is starting right tackle, the Colts have lost a 750 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: starting linebacker, the Texans lost a starting defensive end, and 751 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: the Titans are losing everybody. We'll take your calls and 752 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: discuss all that next right here on Texans All Access. 753 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: Texans Radio continues in a moment, we returned to Texans 754 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: All Access. That's right, John Harris, Football One sideline reporter 755 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: here with you. Let's get back to phone seven, three five, seven, two, four, 756 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: six ten. Let's talk to Lionel, who says, well, I 757 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: don't want to put words this about Lionel. What's going on? Man? 758 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: How you doing? Hey John, what's happened? Man? Glad to 759 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: have you on again. Hey, listen, Dinas want to chat 760 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: in on that deal with Jimmy Garoppolo. And then the 761 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: Texas is not signing him. Do you know that that 762 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: was the best decision that they have made so far 763 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: in his Why? First of all, most those two dudes 764 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: names that they signed a boatload of money too, from 765 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks from the Patriots. I forgot their names, you know, 766 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Miami Dolphins. The one that went 767 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins up and he left us. And 768 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: then there was another guy, brock Oswalder. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 769 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: Can you imaging? And I'm not? And of course Jimmy 770 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: Garoppolo is way better than brock Osswallers. But can you 771 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: imagine if we would have signed that dude to all 772 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: that money and he would have a bad performance even 773 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: in one game, we would have came down on him 774 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: so are and who knows what the rest of the 775 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: season would have looked like. But his firecase Kingdom is good. 776 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: He was the Houston Cougar, he was the Houston Texans. 777 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: He knows the city of Houston, and he had fans. 778 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: And this dude didn't ride nobody's coattails like brock Aswaladive, 779 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. This dude wasn't started. And this dude took 780 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: the Minnesota back instead the NFC championship hold to stand 781 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: and you'd not give him a second chance? What's your take, Linel, 782 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Thank you very much. Here's what I 783 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: thought on Case. I don't have I don't have a 784 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: ton of expectations for Case, to be honest. I mean, 785 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: if Case has to go in the ballgame and you're 786 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: trying to build a rookie's confidence and you're trying to 787 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: get a rookie ready to play like a ce J 788 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: Stroud or like a Bryce Young, I think Case is 789 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: going to be the right guy, because Case is gonna 790 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: absolutely understand that he's not. He doesn't have to be 791 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 1: the guy, but he can help that rookie become the guy, 792 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: and he could be a big part of that. And 793 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: when Cases asked to go, he's going to be ready 794 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: to go. He's the consummate professional. Now. One of the 795 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: things about this game, unfortunately, is he took the Vikings 796 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: I was six years ago. I mean it was six 797 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: years ago. Case, I think, understands where he is right 798 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 1: now in his career. He knows that more than likely 799 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: he's a backup. But he also knows if he gets 800 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: an opportunity go on the field, you will see some 801 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: serious bleep. That's the way Case has always been. I 802 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 1: love the fact and this goes back to my comments 803 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: early read don callin asking why they didn't get Jimmy 804 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: g signing. One of the things I said was Jimmy 805 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: had to want to be here. He didn't want to 806 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: be here, like I promise you. Case Keenan wanted to 807 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: be here. I'd imagine he could have stayed in Buffalo. 808 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: I've seen some tweets from people Buffalo wanted him to 809 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 1: stay when he came back to Houston. So he wanted 810 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: to be here. He wants to be part of this 811 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: and that's awesome because this thing will get turned around 812 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: and Case Keenan, whether replacer doesn't, he's gonna make a 813 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: huge impact on a quarterback room going forward, huge going forward. Now, 814 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned that Tennessee Titans NAFC South. I appreciate the call, 815 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: Tennessee Tits. Here's the roster to start the year for 816 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: the Titans, starting wide receiver Robert Woods now a tex 817 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: and trailer. Burkes played about half the year as a rookie. 818 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook, Keen good Taylor Luan cut, Aaron Brewer may 819 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: move to center. Ben Jones is about to be cut. 820 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: Nate Davis signed a deal today with the Bears. Dylan 821 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: Radun's probably gonna get cut. Austin Hooper a free agent, 822 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannhill, nobody knows. Dereck Henry has been shocked. That's 823 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: the Titans offense defense. It doesn't get much better. Dinko 824 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: Autry still there. I believe Tierre Tart, Jeffrey Simmons. They 825 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: haven't worked through a contract. Bud Dupree released. David Long 826 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: signed today with the Dolphins. Zach Cunningham released Caleb Farley, 827 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: their first round pick. Kicking on the field. Elijah Moulden 828 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 1: Nickel kicking on the field. The Titans are in a bad, 829 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 1: bad way, but losing Nate Davis and David Long today. 830 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: Those guys weren't big name free agents. Those are two 831 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: guys I would have loved to look out for the Texans. 832 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: They signed one with the Davis signed with the Bears, 833 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: and Long signed with the Dolphins. You've seen a lot 834 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: of players leaving ac South. You also saw Bobby o'karakay 835 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: from the from the Colts. He signed a deal with 836 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 1: the Giants. I'm fine with that. Now. If the Colts 837 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: can trade Ryan Kelly at center, that it'll become plea 838 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: it'll be complete. Appreciate you guys for getting in with me. 839 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: Appreciate that. We'll be back tomorrow seven three, seven, two 840 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: four six ten. Put in your BlackBerry or however you 841 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: call nowadays. Put it in there, save it, Mark, and 842 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 1: I'll be here tomorrow. We'll take your calls. We'll discuss 843 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,720 Speaker 1: everything that's happened. It's just day one of the tampering period. 844 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: We've gotten to the start of the league year, so 845 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: more stuff's gonna happen. Keep an eye wide, receivers. That's 846 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: gonna happen. At some point the domino will fall. Maybe 847 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: you'bj is the first one. We'll do all that tomorrow 848 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: right here in Texas All Access. Chris, you man, appreciate it. 849 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: We'll see tom Everybody always go Texans. 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