1 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into jag Vam this Wednesday, and Ka, Nannie Stevens, 2 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, and John Oser are with me as we 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: get prepared for the home game against the Colts this week. 4 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the Jaguars. 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: What needs to change going into this week if they 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: want to get their first win of the year. 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: Let's start out with our big things. Big thing number one. 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Is psych as in, what is the psyche of the 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: team right now? Brian, we heard from Dug Peterson yesterday 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: talked a lot about the mental and what they need 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: to focus on and kind of getting in the right 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: frame of mind with the team right now because obviously 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: a lot of negativity swirling around, but they need to 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: focus on what they need to focus on right now, 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: which is getting a win. 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: Put some help is not on the way. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: It's got to come from within there, which means that 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 4: these guys have to look in word, each person individually. 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: Dug manshift he feels like an amateur psychologists. I'm sure 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: you both do too, when you're out talking to people 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: and they're like, what is wrong with this team? 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: I'm ready to burn my jersey or throw my tickets overboard. 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 4: I mean, we have heard all these things in recent weeks, 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 4: and the reality of it is is that we've talked 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 4: about this not being a resilient team, and the only 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: way that you build any sort of resilience is to 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 4: be honest with yourself. Here's who I am, what I am, 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: what I'm not doing, what I should be doing. The 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: psyche of this team needs to be fleshed out. That's 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: what coaches do, right, But everybody John has to be 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 4: their own coach and lead themselves through this period right now. 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: It's tough. 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: It's tough when you walk into the building in the 34 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: morning and you know that the meeting isn't going to 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: go well. It's tough when you walk out and you 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 4: go through publics and someone says, man, what's. 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: The matter with you guys? Right now? It's not gonna 38 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: get any easier. I lead with this. 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: Winston Churchill once said, if you're going through hell, just 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: keep going, just get through it. 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: I've been going a long time. 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that believe that the. 43 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 5: We said two weeks ago the time for talk is over, 44 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 5: and we're two weeks later, so the time for talk 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 5: is really over. And that's why it's kind of tough 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 5: to answer any of these questions. It's why it's tough 47 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 5: when they stand on the podium answer questions because there's 48 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 5: not much more to say. I I said on Monday 49 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 5: that it was now about pride. You don't wanna be 50 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 5: saying that after four weeks because when you say it's 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 5: all about pride, it means you're not talking about the playoffs. 52 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 5: It there's two p words. Pride's the one you not 53 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 5: wanna be using in October. But unfortunately it's about pride. 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 5: So psych right now is that can you figure out 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 5: a way to make this matter enough to play as 56 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: a team, to know that you've only been a player 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 5: two away and make those big plays? 58 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: Can they do that? 59 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 5: That's what we're gonna be going to the game on 60 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 5: Sunday to find out our. 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: Second big thing is gonna be streaky. There are two 62 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: streets that are gonna combine it on Sunday. Teams lost 63 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: four games in a row, but they've also it's well 64 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: beaten the Indianapolis Colts at home here in Jacksonville for 65 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: over a decade. 66 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: John. 67 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: We talked about this, uh last week when I was 68 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the date was exactly, but 69 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: it was September of twenty fourteen the last time this 70 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: team lost to the Indianapolis Colts. Does that mean anything 71 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: this week or is this a matter of where the 72 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: team's at right now? 73 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 6: Well? 74 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 5: It it means a little something because the Jaguars players 75 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 5: in this locker room, Uh, who have beaten the Colts 76 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 5: and who beat them twice last year. Uh, they certainly 77 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 5: believe and know that this is a team that they 78 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 5: can beat. Does it matter in terms of Indianapolis's and 79 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: I think less accept it. As as Mike Chappell, who 80 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: I talked about the Colts every year. 81 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: I go back with him twenty years. He knows the Colts. 82 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 5: He said, Look, streaks or streaks until they're not so 83 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: until the Colts break it, Somewhere in their mind during 84 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 5: the game, they're thinking, we don't win down here s 85 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, it helps. But guess what, Bryan, most streaks 86 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 5: that have ever happened in the NFL aren't ongoing, right, No, Yeah, 87 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: so at some point they end, and you know, nine 88 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 5: straight years, at some point, this one's gonna end. 89 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: Let's hope it's not Sunday. 90 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 4: And you know, if you go back to the Colts 91 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 4: were a better team when they rolled in here for 92 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: the final game in twenty twenty one, a much better 93 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 4: tam In fact, they were a playoff team if they 94 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: just won the ball game and they got beat by 95 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: a team with an interim coach who had every reason 96 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: just to sort of let it go because they knew 97 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: that everything was going to change the next year, and 98 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: they didn't. So this really it kind of goes back 99 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 4: to what we were talking about. Who's better focused this week? 100 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: Who comes down and can execute the game plan and 101 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: not let the distractions of either being zero to four 102 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: or coming off a big win over the Steelers, or 103 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 4: you know, not having this player or having that player 104 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 4: who can execute the game plan. 105 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Our final big thing today is going to be somebody 106 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: we talked a lot about what who and haven't been 107 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: doing what they needed to do, But who can step 108 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: up here? Brian, We've talked a lot about some of 109 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: these players stepping in for other injured players. Who's that 110 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: somebody that's going to make the play and make a difference. 111 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 4: Well, I really believe that Dentro Miller showed us last 112 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 4: week that he is capable. 113 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: Of being a front line player. 114 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: We've been talking about interceptions or forced fumbles or fumbles recovered. 115 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 4: I saw him in the preseason with some limited snaps, 116 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 4: knocked the ball free. I saw him as somebody who 117 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: is a play maker, and I think he's a guy 118 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: just one game starting under his belt, but a guy 119 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: who plays with such great intensity and speed that he 120 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 4: could be that somebody that turns things around on Sunday. 121 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 5: Well, you need the quarterback to do it, and that'll 122 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 5: be an ongoing story until it's not clearly. Brian Thomas 123 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 5: Junior has shown that he has the ability to make 124 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 5: plays above the ex's and o's. That's really right now. 125 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 5: What's kind of held the team back in a lot 126 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 5: of ways. I don't know how many players they have 127 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 5: right now who are showing they can do that. So 128 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 5: I'll go on offense. Brian Thomas Junior. He has done 129 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 5: it already. But he is perfectly capable and probably the 130 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 5: most capable player in this team. Last eight minutes of 131 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 5: a game, when plays have to be made, special has 132 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 5: to be special. He's got the capability of doing it, 133 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 5: has shown a propensity to do it. He's going to 134 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 5: get better and better at it. Maybe this is the 135 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 5: week that he's on. Whatever the highlight shows are called now, 136 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 5: but he's the one people who are talking about after 137 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: the game. It's time he can do it. 138 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: I think he will, all right, say with us here 139 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: on jag Zam, we're going to look forward to the 140 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: rest of the week what we think is going to 141 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: happen in the game on Sunday. 142 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 4: Navigating the current housing market and figuring out your best 143 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 4: move when it comes to a mortgage. Is it your 144 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: full time job, but it's one of the biggest decisions 145 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 4: you'll ever make. 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Obviously 223 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: a lot to work on on both sides of the football. 224 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: Talked a little bit about Trevor Lawrence and where he's at, 225 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: and we kind of expect a little bit more of him. Obviously, 226 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: kind of in the funk right now as the whole 227 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: team is that they've gone zero to four. So first 228 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: this or that is a little bit about kind of 229 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: getting Trevor out of that funk when you're going forward. 230 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: Does that mean giving him the ball more or does 231 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: that mean kind of focusing on the run and taking 232 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of pressure off. 233 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: That's a great question. 234 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: Well, Doug told us in his news conference that he's 235 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: probably given the ball more. 236 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: I mean, this is quarterback. 237 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 4: The whole framework of the future is built around him. 238 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: The salary cap is tied to him. You need to 239 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: work him through it. 240 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: I mean the run obviously helps, but I would say 241 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: give them the ball more. Let's go and see if 242 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: you can't dial it in. 243 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you have to. 244 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 5: And even beyond philosophical long term stuff, this offense is 245 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 5: really not set up to take the ball out of 246 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 5: the quarterback's hands and just grind. To me a physical offense. 247 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: It can run, but I don't know that it's an offense. 248 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 5: It's going to run consistently if the other team after 249 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 5: the first quarter figures out, Hey, all these guys want 250 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 5: to do is run. You know, this offense needs to 251 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 5: have the threat of the pass to make that work. 252 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 5: So look at Trevor's the quarterback. There are weapons around him. 253 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 5: It's built to be a balanced Doug Peterson type offense. 254 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 5: I don't think you can all of a sudden turn 255 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 5: into three yards in a cloud of dust. 256 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: Delicate balance between the two on the defensive side of 257 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: the ball. Talked a little bit about the pass rushant 258 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: getting home a ton this year. Josh heines Allen currently 259 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: in the concussion protocols, so we don't know what his 260 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: availability might be this week. 261 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: So when you're. 262 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Looking at the pass rush, what are some things that 263 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: they can do? Do you think they should try to 264 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: what's more, focus more on stunts or just kind of 265 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: do what they've been doing and try to keep that going. 266 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: Do we have the answers? 267 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: I know I'm asking questions at the coach to figure out, 268 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: but I. 269 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 5: Thought the rush was better as the game went on 270 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 5: on Sunday. I think that's what makes some of these 271 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 5: questions tough, because we're looking at it zero to four 272 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: is bad and sort of panicky. They did a lot 273 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 5: of things better on Sunday that if they continue to 274 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 5: do those things they can get progressively better. Their problem, Brian, 275 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 5: is they can't win four games. 276 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: On second So that's a problem. 277 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: So you're in this hole, and the key is really 278 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 5: being patient and continuing to get better at these things 279 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 5: and make those few plays at the end. In terms 280 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 5: of the pass rush, I don't expect Ryan Nielsen to start, 281 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 5: let's say, with you know, weird exotic blitzes. This team 282 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 5: again was built for this front to win rushing forward. 283 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: Well, like where Roberts and Harris is in this dish. 284 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 3: All right, that was a mismatch. 285 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: Kenyan Green, the left guard, had won three or four 286 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: penalties holding off sides, and Roy got up in his 287 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: head and just pushed him, I mean just bull rushed him. Yeah, 288 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 4: but listen, they know strategy better than me. But I 289 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: think i'd get Eric Armstead inside, especially if you have 290 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: Josh we'll find out about him and. 291 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: Trayvon on the outside because he's just you see him. 292 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 4: He's this massive man who had great success as an 293 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 4: interior pass rusher when he was in San Francisco and 294 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: I would look for ways to put him back at 295 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: his position of strength. 296 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: I know they've been using him more in different. 297 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: Techniques, but well, he looks like an inside rusher to me, 298 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 4: and put him and Roy next to each other and 299 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 4: see if you can't find some mismatches on players that 300 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 4: can't handle that size and length. 301 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, with the pass rush, it truly feels. You know, 302 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 5: you had Ventrel Miller who's stepped up, you had Monteric 303 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 5: Brown who stepped up. I don't know if there's a 304 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 5: specific guy ready to step up on that level, maybe 305 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 5: Miles Cole. 306 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: That's asking a lot of. 307 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 5: A rookie to give you huge push as as an 308 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: edge pass rusher. The guys who are supposed to be 309 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: the core of this thing have to get home. 310 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: I agree. 311 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: Back to the offensive side of the ball, we saw 312 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: some impressive runs from Tank Bigsby in that game versus 313 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: the Texans. He only had seven carries, but he had 314 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: of course a couple explosive plays there. Do you think 315 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: this turns into a little more even carries between Etn 316 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: and Tank or do you think Eten should still be 317 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: the main back for the team. 318 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: That's gonna be tough. 319 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 5: I think you're seeing the balance they want and Tank's 320 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 5: effectiveness within that balance. I don't know yet if he 321 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 5: is ready for a more full time role in terms 322 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 5: of doing everything that Travis can do in terms of 323 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: pass protection, in terms of pass being involved in the 324 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: whole offense. And the coach ha didne a nice job, 325 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 5: Brian of using Tank when he can be really effective 326 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: and he's maximized those opportunities. Do they want to steer 327 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: toward Tank being in more and tipping that they want 328 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 5: to go those directions? I don't know how far you 329 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 5: can lean toward that yet, but boy has been effective. 330 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: When he's running. 331 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, if your offensive line, especially the inside, is strong, 332 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you play like the sixty seven Packers and almost. 333 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: But we're gonna run right here. 334 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: I don't know who they are yet. 335 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think so either. 336 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: What I like about Tank is what we saw on 337 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: the twenty two yard run right, start inside, pop it outside. 338 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: He is just a to me, he's a more complete running. 339 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: Back, right. 340 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: I think he's more effective as an every down sort 341 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: of running back. But he's not the athlete that Travis is. 342 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: He's not the explosive playmaker that Travis is. And this 343 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: team doesn't yet trust him like they do Travis, so 344 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: his role if he goes and has a couple more 345 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: games like this, will continue to grow. He's just such 346 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: a nice blend of size and power and speed. I'd 347 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: like to see more of him, but I'm an old 348 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: school kind of guy and I like that kind of game. 349 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 5: And while we're on the subject, credit to him for 350 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 5: coming back this year the way he has and absolutely 351 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 5: taking advantage of multiple opportunities and mattering in this offense 352 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 5: in a tough season. He's a success story so far. 353 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, great, great attitude this season. Absolutely save with us 354 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: here on Jack Zam. 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But 423 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: the Titans did get their first win of the season 424 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: last night on Monday Night Football Battle the backup quarterbacks 425 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: Titans and Dolphins, Will Levis kind of knocking himself out 426 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: here when the shoulder in Jersey tried to dive for 427 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: the first down, Bason Rudolph came in, led the charge, 428 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: and Titans got their first win of the season. That 429 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: means the Jaguars are the only winless team in the 430 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: NFL right now. Interesting to see. 431 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: I haven't seen any reports about. 432 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: What this extent of Levis's injury it's gonna be, but 433 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: interesting quarterback situations throughout the rest. 434 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: Of the division besides C. J. Stroud pretty much. 435 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: Well, it feels this was a game last night where 436 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: right now the Titans backup is as good or better 437 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 5: than their starter. 438 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 439 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 5: Way with the experience with the starter in well, I 440 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 5: was still developing, and then you played a Dolphins team 441 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 5: that clearly is not as good without their starter, so 442 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 5: that kind of tipped the balance. I think if the 443 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: Jags had played the Dolphins without Tua, it's probably different outcomes. 444 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: So my sense is that. 445 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 5: From watching it, I would think that they want to 446 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 5: win short term right now, they probably lean toward Rudolph. 447 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 5: That seemed the feel, But that's the speculation for a 448 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 5: far Ryan. 449 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm to be honest with you, I didn't see 450 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: the game, so I don't know that much about it. 451 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 4: I know that if I was the only winless team 452 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: in the NFL. 453 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: I'd be very motivated this week, I would hope so elsewhere. 454 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: As for our opponent this week, Anthony Richardson, the Colts quarterback, 455 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: left the game. Joe Flacco came in led the Colts 456 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: to a win over the Steelers, who hadn't lost yet 457 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: this season. 458 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: And the Colts are always dangerous. 459 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: I know there's that streak of them losing here in Jacksonville, 460 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: but at this point, not sure if Anthony Richardson's going 461 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: to play as a hit pointer, and they said it's 462 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: not an extreme injury, they do expect he could possibly 463 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: be available for the game. So it's either that or 464 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: Joe flaccol But those are two very different quarterbacks. And 465 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: as we know, Joe Flacco beat the team last year 466 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: when he was with the Browns. 467 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 5: Well, and he's very capful of doing that. He's very 468 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 5: capful of reading defenses and distributing the ball. And look, 469 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 5: the Colts come into this. If I'm the Coles, I 470 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 5: look at this as how to be three and two 471 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 5: after this? I mean, that's how they're thinking. They don't 472 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 5: care about the past. They're playing a winless Jaguars team. 473 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 5: They're two and two. They believe that they're a team 474 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: that's going to contend. They've got a quarterback that they 475 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: have paid to play in this situation, meaning Flacco or 476 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 5: and Richardson. I do stanswerm some Jaguars fans, even though 477 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 5: they're only four, they think this is like a little 478 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 5: bit of a given because of a streak. I don't 479 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 5: think anan's given right now. 480 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 3: No, it isn't. You know. 481 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: What works in their favor is that Jonathan Taylor can't 482 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 4: play and he sustained a high ankle scring last week 483 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 4: and that went over the Steelers and is questionable at 484 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: this point. 485 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 3: In fact, there was some talk. 486 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: In Indy about, you know, would they need ir for him? 487 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 4: So if he doesn't play, it changes the dynamic tremendously 488 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: because they've been waiting to get both Richardson and Jonathan 489 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 4: Taylor together because both of them are so dynamic on 490 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 4: their feet. 491 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if this defense is ready for that. 492 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: But if you've got Flacco, it becomes a Josh Downs 493 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 4: and Michael Pittman, both of whom are good receivers, and 494 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: a quarterback who doesn't mind throwing the ball down the field. 495 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 5: Well, and we'll talk about this morning to Larow, I'm sure, 496 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 5: but the Colts defense is a really good defense when 497 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 5: they have all our guys right now. 498 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: They're really beat up, So. 499 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: The Jaguars should be able to take advantage of that 500 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 5: sort of a mismatch. But all those things that we 501 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 5: say should are hard to talk about when. 502 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: You're rolling four and this defense is potentially pretty beat 503 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 4: up too. I mean, no, Foyer, Lui come, we don't 504 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: know the status of Josh Heinz Allen. 505 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 5: And tyser On big time on their defensive line, which 506 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 5: is what they're built around. 507 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: That's where you ought to be able to have a 508 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: little bit of an edge. 509 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, let's be hout with it. 510 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 4: If the jag Wars are gonna win, they're gonna need 511 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: their quarterback to put. 512 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Up points against this defense that's depleted. 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It's easy to criticize the negative, right 583 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 15: It's hard to find the positive when things are bad. 584 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 3: I mean just kind of human nature. 585 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 15: I personally try to find the good in everything because 586 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 15: if I don't them. I'm always the Debbie downer. I'm 587 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 15: always the negative one, and I don't want to be 588 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 15: the negative one. I will still hold them accountable. I 589 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 15: will still hold my coaches accountable. I'll hold myself accountable. 590 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 15: But at the same time, I better come Wednesday make 591 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 15: them feel like they could run through that wall. 592 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 3: Right. That's that's my job. 593 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 15: That's part of my job. So I don't necessarily back away. 594 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 15: I don't necessarily have to raise my voice and yell 595 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 15: and scream, but I. 596 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 13: Think you can. 597 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 15: You can get your message across where they understand where 598 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 15: you're coming from and what we need to do moving forward. 599 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: Focusing on the positives easy be negative at all four, 600 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: but we're going to focus on the positives. 601 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 10: This week. 602 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking to them on Terrek Brown 603 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: in my office field segment. 604 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: John who he's speaking to this week, I'm. 605 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: Speaking with Ventrell Miller, and I think we're talking to 606 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 5: the two players, who are you the best two defense 607 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 5: players on the field on Sunday. 608 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to talking to Ventrell. Young guy. 609 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 5: I haven't really gotten him known very well yet, but 610 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 5: he is a energetic guy, a positive guy, and everything 611 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: you hear. Is that a you know, a guy who 612 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: loves football and is really liking this opportunity to spite. 613 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: The O and four start. 614 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Brian's gonna be a special day on Sunday with a 615 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: lot of people in town to celebrate Tom Laughlin. 616 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: I spent time in each of the last few weeks 617 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 4: with Tom sitting and talking, and that's gonna be released 618 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 4: as a long form podcast. I will also have a 619 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: portion of it in pregame radio. He's grateful listen. He's 620 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 4: got a high school stadium named after him. He's in 621 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 4: the Giants Ring of Honor. At some point he'll be 622 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame. He's got Super Bowl rings. 623 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: But this is a unique honor for him, and it's 624 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 4: very special to him because, well, you'll have to listen 625 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: and let him tell you why. 626 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 2: Absolutely gonna be a special day. 627 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about that on the 628 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: show tomorrow and get you prepared for the game versus 629 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: the Colts. 630 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: See you tomorrow.