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Speaker 2: Two on this Tuesday. Jim Harball the Chargers will stop

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Speaker 2: DP show Lions over the Ravens thirty eight thirty big

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Speaker 2: fumble by the Ravens. Deep into that game with Dereck Henry.

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Speaker 2: You know, in that moment, Troy Aikman was an analyst

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Speaker 2: calling the game, but he acted like a quarterback because

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Speaker 2: he's saying, hey, Derrick Henry is throwing his helmet, he's

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Speaker 2: mad on the sidelines, and Troy's like, hey, you got

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Speaker 2: to get your act together. It's almost as if he

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Speaker 2: was the quarterback talking to him. We got to go

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Speaker 2: back out there. And I thought it was a great

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Speaker 2: moment there with Troy that it was analyzing something. But

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Speaker 2: also in the moment, if that's my running back, if

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Speaker 2: that was Emmett and he's acting like that, I'd say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we got to get back out there. The game is

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Speaker 2: not lost yet. But give credit to the Lions. They're

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Speaker 2: now two and one. They got Cincinnati and Cleveland coming up. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: the Ravens at one and two, they're at Kansas City

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Speaker 2: with their next game. All right, poll question, then we'll

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Speaker 2: bring in coach Harbaugh seton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a couple of them up there right

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Speaker 3: now in better shape right now, Ravens or the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens have about eighty percent of that vote, which

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Speaker 3: is interesting. Tier one of the NFC right now is

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Speaker 3: just between the Eagles and Lions. Then there's everybody else

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Speaker 3: and do you read books? No, currently has forty three percent.

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Speaker 4: Of that vote.

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Speaker 2: That's an audience after my heart. There merchandise stores open.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Show. Undefeated Chargers. They've beaten the Chiefs, the Raiders, Broncos,

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Speaker 2: they got the Giants coming up, and then after that

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Speaker 2: they've got one Washingtonis Jim Harbaugh back on the show.

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Speaker 2: Who has it better than we do? Nobody? I coach

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Speaker 2: Rny Dan, I'm doing great. I'm doing great. How about you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Doing really really good? Really uh really happy. I'm

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Speaker 5: happy about our team, our organization. There's a there's a

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Speaker 5: never give up, never give in personality, and that that

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Speaker 5: bodes well for Uh. That's the kind of hearts champions

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Speaker 5: are made up. Makes me happy.

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Speaker 2: How long will you wait to call your brother after

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Speaker 2: that game last night?

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Speaker 5: We've already texted, so Uh, I'm sure we'll talk sometime today.

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Speaker 2: What do you add? Does he ask you or do

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Speaker 2: you volunteer?

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Speaker 5: Oh? I think? Uh, I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 5: how this one will go up. I mean, uh, he

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Speaker 5: saw a lot more than I did, and Uh, it

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Speaker 5: was a heck of a football game. I'm sure he knows,

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Speaker 5: he knows what his team needs this.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Punching the ball out? Do you teach that to

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Speaker 2: your players?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Punch it out, rip it out? I mean, lawn more.

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Speaker 5: Uh that that ball. Everybody's going for that ball.

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Speaker 2: But when it seems like Peanut Tillman might have been

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Speaker 2: the first who was punching the ball out, but you know,

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Speaker 2: we're not. There's certain guys that are hard to tackle.

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Speaker 2: But is that the philosophy Derrick Henry is tough to

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Speaker 2: bring down to? Why not go for the most vulnerable

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Speaker 2: part of him? And that's the ball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think you're bring up a great point. I mean,

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Speaker 5: if if something if mister Tilman can do it, then

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Speaker 5: another man can do it once. You know, once somebody

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Speaker 5: sees somebody do something that hasn't been done. Uh, then uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, see if I can do it that way.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's the Uh, that's the mentality there. It's

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Speaker 5: it's it's across sports.

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Speaker 2: But you're teaching that to your guys.

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Speaker 6: Sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And and you teach every week. You show the

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Speaker 5: you show the ways that that the ball is coming

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Speaker 5: out and getting loose, you know, in the in the

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Speaker 5: running game from non aggressive angles. Uh, you know, the

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks the most at risk, and the ball carrier. You know,

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Speaker 5: the different ways that the that the ball comes out.

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Speaker 5: You show it every single week, you know, for the

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Speaker 5: for the sake of the ball carrier and uh, for

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Speaker 5: the sake of those trying to get it out. And

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Speaker 5: you know, in the in the in the passing game,

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Speaker 5: in the interception turnovers, uh, tips and overs. Throws are

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Speaker 5: still the leading cause of turnovers in America.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs, Raiders, and Broncos. You've beaten them. Which out

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Speaker 2: of those three was your best game so far?

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's Uh, it's it's it's like your kids. You'll, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean the wins, you'll you love them all. Uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, you love them all the same.

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Speaker 2: Weather has to be one where you're you know, you

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Speaker 5: You know, you say that as a parent. There's gotta

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Speaker 5: there's gotta be a favorite.

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Speaker 2: There's gotta be one that I have favorite kids, Jim.

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Speaker 5: The division wins definitely, Uh, the division wins, you know,

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Speaker 5: the ones that that that it seems are better. You

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Speaker 5: know that you're you're you're right, there's there's some that

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Speaker 5: are better and those are the division wins.

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Speaker 2: Are you preparing for Jackson Dart to play this weekend

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Speaker 5: Uh, we'll prepare for for the Giants. Uh. And in

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Speaker 5: both you know, both both quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: How do you prepare you prepared differently for Russell Wilson

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Speaker 5: Uh, I mean somewhat, I mean some of the the uh,

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Speaker 5: of what we've seen. I mean, Uh, Jackson Dart, the

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Speaker 2: Talking to Jim Harball, they got the Giants coming up

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, the Herbert throw across his body As a

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Speaker 2: former quarterback, how would you describe that throw? And was

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Speaker 2: was that scripted to throw it that way?

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Speaker 5: No, that was that was a that was an extended

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Speaker 5: play Justin. It was extending the play out of the pocket.

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Speaker 5: I do have the I do have the adjective to

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Speaker 5: describe it impossible. It was an impossible throw and it

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Speaker 5: was an impossible catch by Keenan Allen both both Justin

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Speaker 5: much extension. And then and then it was just then

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Speaker 5: you know, perfectly placed. And you know John Justin's Justin's throws, Uh,

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Speaker 5: It's uh, it's got that it gets when I catch

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Speaker 5: because when it's halfway to me, I know I better

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Speaker 5: it just at the end it I think baseball pitchers

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Speaker 5: go straight on the line that it's going. It's it's uh.

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Speaker 5: It's different than than anything ever seen. Pussy gets hit

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Speaker 5: in the head as he's throwing it. It was all

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Speaker 2: Was it a good throw though? If it like were

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Speaker 2: you on the sidelines going no, no, yes, yes.

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Speaker 5: No, I've really learned not to not to do that anymore.

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Speaker 5: There was, there was, there's times, there's time in practice.

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Speaker 5: There there's been times in games where I said, no

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Speaker 5: that he's you know, the guy's covered, but he's got

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Speaker 5: the ability. And we tell our receivers everybody running, everybody alert,

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Speaker 5: even if you think you're covered. You know our quarterback

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Speaker 5: Ken puts the ball to a spot you know he

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Speaker 5: can hit the bull's eye. It's to me, I think

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Speaker 5: of it as a handoff. You know, it's a thirty

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Speaker 5: I've seen it be a fifty five yard handoff, and

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Speaker 5: that's what a forty yard handoff looks like. You know,

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Speaker 5: with the way he can he can put the ball

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Speaker 2: We had him on preseason and I asked him if

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Speaker 2: he would incorporate more running, kind of like Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: because I when I saw him in college, certainly in

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Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl, like, he looked really impressive running. And

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Speaker 2: Steve Young comes on the show and he says, there's

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Speaker 2: so much you know, real estate out there. If you

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Speaker 2: you got to take advantage of that. You got to

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Speaker 2: use your legs and go get that. Is that being

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Speaker 2: incorporated into the game plan more this year than it

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Speaker 5: Well, it has, It definitely has. Uh you know, Justin's

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Speaker 5: making making so many plays that way. He's he's always

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Speaker 5: really been that kind of quarterback. You know, there's there's

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Speaker 5: nothing he's not good at it. There's an old saying.

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Speaker 5: I don't know when I heard it, but uh, you

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Speaker 5: except justin her uh And in all seriousness, Uh. And

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Speaker 5: he has people ask me, you know, what was he

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Speaker 5: improved on this year? You know, he's he's he's just

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Speaker 5: always been great since I've been here day one. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's it's like watching greatness every single day. What has

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Speaker 5: he improved on? He did get a mile an hour

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Speaker 5: faster this this off season week. Previously had clocked him

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Speaker 5: And he works on it every day. His training is

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Speaker 5: is elite. He's he's conditioning, he's he's uh, it's speed training,

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Speaker 5: it's and it's showing up in the games.

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Speaker 2: When did you realize there was unfinished business in the NFL?

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Speaker 5: Uh? When when I walked off the field at the

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Speaker 5: at the Super Bowl in twenty and thirteen, you know,

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Speaker 5: I was really proud of our team and what they

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Speaker 5: another day. Almost almost like who is the actor? Who's

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Speaker 5: the actor? In the field of dreams Burt Lancaster when

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Speaker 5: he said he got his one at bat in the

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Speaker 5: major leagues and he walked off the field and thought

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Speaker 5: there would be other days. But then there weren't any

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Speaker 5: other days. So yeah, I thought there would be other days,

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Speaker 5: and then for a long time that there wasn't any

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Speaker 5: other days. And now with the Chargers, with the team

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Speaker 5: that that has the license and the ability to do it,

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm feeling that there's going to be another day.

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Speaker 2: How's your dad?

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Speaker 5: He's good, Thanks for asking. He's Uh, he was. He

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Speaker 5: was in Baltimore the last the last two weeks and

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Speaker 5: UH so been Uh been talking with him Texan Texan

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Speaker 5: this morning. I haven't talked yet, but uh looking looking

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Speaker 5: forward to that. We we uh he my mom, we

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Speaker 5: need to talk to my dad today, see what Uh

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Speaker 5: You're a really good shape. He's a really good shape.

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Speaker 5: My great grandfather Harball was a was a your boxer,

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Speaker 5: Thanks dad, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's coach coach Harball. Yeah, his dad came in and

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the first nine seasons for Jared Goff

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Speaker 5: If Jared Goff gets a Super Bowl victory with the Lions,

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Speaker 5: that's enough for the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Ryan Fitzpatrick, NFL on Prime Video Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Thursday Night, it's the Seahawks and the Cardinals. Do you

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Speaker 2: The Ravens defense, they used to lead with their defense Rye.

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Speaker 9: It's changed a lot and I think, you know, part

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Speaker 4: But these rules have helped quarterbacks stay healthy and stay

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Speaker 4: on the field. And I think the second thing that's

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Speaker 4: a big difference.

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Speaker 9: You've seen completion percentage jump way up, and you know,

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Speaker 9: the air yards on these passes. A lot of these

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Speaker 9: offenses now getting the ball out on the perimeter, having

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Speaker 9: those plays where it's a swing pass and there's a

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Speaker 9: full back or a tight end as the lead blocker

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Speaker 9: out there.

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Speaker 4: A lot of this is an extension of the run game.

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Speaker 9: And so I think we're seeing a lot of quick passes,

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Speaker 9: a lot of short passes, and I don't know that

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Speaker 9: it's necessarily changing for the better. I like some of

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Speaker 9: that other stuff, and that's why you like teams like

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Speaker 9: Detroit and like to watch the play action and Jared

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Speaker 9: Goff throw it down the field and on fourth and

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Speaker 9: two the aman Rah play action, you know, trust in

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Speaker 9: him to make that throw.

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Speaker 4: But it's changed.

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Speaker 9: I don't know that it's changed for the better in

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Speaker 9: terms of all the quick short passes.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why more quarterbacks don't start under center

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Speaker 2: that it feels like you can run play action, like

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Speaker 2: you can hide a little bit more. It's more deception

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Speaker 2: there instead of being in the gun. Help me understand

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Speaker 2: why we don't see more of that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I just think because of the way that it's

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Speaker 9: being taught from a very young age now and in college.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's all about you have guys coming into

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Speaker 9: the league that haven't really had to be in a

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Speaker 9: huddle and haven't really had to bark out a cadence

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Speaker 9: or a snap count. But that kind of stuff it's

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Speaker 9: easier to do. You like the spread out, wide open

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Speaker 9: stuff in college, and so a lot of that occurs

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Speaker 9: in shotgun.

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Speaker 4: But it's a big difference.

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Speaker 9: It's a big change for some of these guys coming

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Speaker 9: into the NFL, and it is a huge advantage to

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Speaker 9: be able to get under center.

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Speaker 2: You've got the Seahawks and the Cardinals on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: I thought Marvin Harrison Junior was thousand year yards one

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Speaker 2: hundred catches. This is going to be easy. What the

476
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Speaker 2: hell has happened? I think part of it is a

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Speaker 2: confidence issue. You know, you saw in the last game

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Speaker 2: he had two big drops. One of them ended up

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Speaker 2: not cost him because they had a past interference calling

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Speaker 2: the end zone. But just you know, stuff plays that

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Speaker 2: he's probably made since he was five years old, and

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Speaker 2: so that happens to guys sometimes where you just you

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Speaker 2: fall out of confidence. So I think it's the job

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Speaker 2: of Jonathan Gannon, especially the job of Kyler Murray, to

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Speaker 2: try to bring him up out of this and to

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Speaker 2: breathe life and breathe confidence in him because he is

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Speaker 2: He's a good player. I think the biggest knock on

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Speaker 2: him so far, and I live in Arizona, so I've

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Speaker 2: been hearing a lot of it is, you know, his

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Speaker 2: inability to make that contested catch and to do it consistently.

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Speaker 2: He obviously dropped a couple where he was opened this

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Speaker 2: last weekend, but going up and being strong and using

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Speaker 2: your hands, And I think that the hard thing is

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Speaker 2: the comparison is Larry Fitzgerald, Right, he comes in and

495
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Speaker 2: they want him to be the franchise guy, like Larry

496
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Speaker 2: was in the face of the franchise for seventeen years

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Speaker 2: and he hasn't lived up to that billing yet.

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Speaker 4: But he has the talent.

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Speaker 9: So it's still early and I hope he can he

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Speaker 9: can make himself come out of the scene and gain

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Speaker 9: some confidence back.

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Speaker 2: Would you put Jackson Dart in there for a home

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Speaker 2: game against a better team, the Chargers, or on the

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Speaker 2: road against a worse team the Saints. See, I've always

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Speaker 2: had it circled, So we have we have Week six.

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Speaker 4: I think let's see one, two, three, four.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, our Week six game is the Giants, which is

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Speaker 9: a Thursday night, And so being a guy that has

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Speaker 9: started as the bridge quarterback for Plunket, you look at

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Speaker 9: the bye week first of all, and I think their

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Speaker 9: bye week is week fourteen, so it wasn't gonna happen then.

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Speaker 9: And then you look at the Thursday night games. We

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Speaker 9: can get a couple extra days of practice. So I've

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Speaker 9: always had after our game circled, Week seven would be

515
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Speaker 9: his first start. You know, It's it's difficult obviously to

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Speaker 9: play this position, and Russell Wilson there's a lot of

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Speaker 9: things that he's going to try to cover up in

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Speaker 9: terms of maybe the line play, the lack of threats

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Speaker 9: on the outside, the running backs, whatever it is. It's

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Speaker 9: nice for Jackson Dark to be able to sit and

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Speaker 9: kind of watch him operate a little bit and get

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Speaker 9: beat up. Their schedule is really tough, so he'll be

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Speaker 9: in there soon though, and I think there's a lot

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Speaker 9: of excitement around him. We were able to do his

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Speaker 9: preseason game and what he will bring is a little

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Speaker 9: bit more mobility.

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Speaker 4: To that position.

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Speaker 2: Fitch and Wit a wave original. Wherever you get your podcast,

529
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Speaker 2: you guys chopping it up, telling stories, giving dad energy there.

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Speaker 2: How much fun has that been? It's been a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun.

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Speaker 9: I put off the podcast for a couple of years

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Speaker 9: and then what I realized was I finally found the right.

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Speaker 4: Person to do it with.

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Speaker 9: And Andrew Whitworth and irare teammates way back in seven

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Speaker 9: eight for the Cincinnati Bengals, and our friendship has kind

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Speaker 9: of come back around after we started working for Amazon together.

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Speaker 4: But we love it.

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Speaker 9: We just had Dion Dawkins on yesterday and to be

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Speaker 9: able to sit down and talk with some of these guys,

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Speaker 9: some of them we have forged friendships with already, and

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Speaker 9: some of them just really getting to know for the

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Speaker 9: first time, and Big Schnow was one of those guys.

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Speaker 9: But what a character he is and what a moment

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Speaker 9: he's having with the Buffalo Bills, and he's kind of

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Speaker 9: seen it all the last eight years with that franchise,

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Speaker 9: but he's been with Josh from the beginning, So it

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Speaker 9: was cool to see and listen to some of those

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Speaker 9: stories with.

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Speaker 2: The good to talk to you have fun on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you again.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Dan.

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Speaker 2: It's Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's fits in Wit a Wave original

554
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Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast? Andrew Whitworth, very funny guy.

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Speaker 2: They got Seahawks Cardinals on Thursday Night. Jake and Colorado.

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Speaker 2: Hi Jake, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 10: DP, recent inductee to the DDC Club I learned to

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Speaker 10: call in seat. Made a comment earlier on your show

560
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Speaker 10: being that one of the or the best thing you

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Speaker 10: do is your interviews, and that's really what you guys

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Speaker 10: focus on. Even when I'm missing the show for work

563
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Speaker 10: and other reasons, I always go back and listen to

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Speaker 10: the interviews. I've been introduced to so many guys that

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Speaker 10: I had no idea even existed in the entertainment World

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Speaker 10: and Professional World, and one of which was an old

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Speaker 10: interview you did with Burt Reynolds brought that committee ten

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Speaker 10: twelve years ago. Yeah, he was a My dad was

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Speaker 10: a huge fan of his and I just remember I

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Speaker 10: was drawing a bathroom at that time and I just

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Speaker 10: sat down and just listened to the interview and listened

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Speaker 10: to this guy I'd seen on the screen for years,

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Speaker 10: and you've brought out the person who he was. Just fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope that my audience after this many years,

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Speaker 2: this many interviews, trust me, if I have somebody on

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Speaker 2: that maybe you're not familiar with, because I do think

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Speaker 2: of you if you're watching or you're listening in your car,

578
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Speaker 2: are you interested in this? Or this is why you

579
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Speaker 2: should be interested in this? And that's the fun part

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Speaker 2: of it. And you know, we kind of look at

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Speaker 2: all different walks of life when it comes to this

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Speaker 2: that you know, is there a movie, is their music?

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Speaker 2: Is it just sports? And kind of expand everybody's horizon

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Speaker 2: there and also give you an idea of what interests

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Speaker 2: me when we have people on because I don't have

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Speaker 2: a boss, which is the beauty of this, and we

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Speaker 2: just talk about what we're interested in, and there are

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Speaker 2: days when you know there's not much to be interested in,

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Speaker 2: and that's the real challenge. I go back to COVID

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Speaker 2: and I think COVID is the proudest time of this show,

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Speaker 2: even given everything we were going through. We had to

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Speaker 2: come up with ideas, we had to come up with guests,

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Speaker 2: and we did it, and we got to work through

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Speaker 2: the entire COVID period. And that's what this is about,

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Speaker 2: getting along with each other, having ideas, trying to entertain you,

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Speaker 2: pequk your interest. And that's the challenge every single That's

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Speaker 2: why I say every day is a super Bowl because

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Speaker 2: during the NFL season it's easy to do this job.

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Speaker 2: It's the other days, other time periods that you go,

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Speaker 2: what are we talking about today and what is of

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Speaker 2: interest to you or should be And that's the fun

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Speaker 2: part of it. But the interviews get you know, their

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Speaker 2: strategy to it. I take them very seriously and not

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Speaker 2: everybody comes out, you know, with a great interview, but

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Speaker 2: you know, our approach is the same, ask interesting questions,

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Speaker 2: but better yet, get interesting answers. That's the key. Let's

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Speaker 2: see Jordan in Peoria. Hi, Jordan, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 11: Dan, thanks for having me on again. You've been covering

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Speaker 11: the NFL for a long time, and I've seen a

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Speaker 11: lot quarterbacks kind of come and go. And when you're

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Speaker 11: looking at like young quarterbacks, what traits do you look

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Speaker 11: for that usually tell you if they'll be successful And

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Speaker 11: kind of based on that, what have you seen so

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Speaker 11: far from Caleb Williams And do you think he shows

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Speaker 11: those traits? And I apologize, I'm a Chicago Bears apologist,

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Speaker 11: so I had to have to get a Bear's question

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Speaker 11: in today.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, that's okay. I want people to be patient.

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Speaker 2: We're not in today's sports society. Everybody's got to have

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Speaker 2: a hot take. They want to be the first to say.

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Speaker 2: I mean Paul Feinbaum, who have great respect for, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's slobbern all over Arch Manning.

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Speaker 2: Now this is the best prospects since Tim Tebow. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, don't do this, don't do this, and

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Speaker 2: then he had to walk that back. It's we don't

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Speaker 2: have to have an opinion right away, but when you

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Speaker 2: do have an opinion, then have it based on something.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I want people to do with Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: Or Bryce Young c J. Stroud. You get about a

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Speaker 2: three year window and then all of a sudden, we

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Speaker 2: decide if you're going to get a contract or you're

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Speaker 2: going to be playing for somebody else and you'll be

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Speaker 2: a backup for a little while. That seems to be

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Speaker 2: the progress here, and Caleb has the talent. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how well he was coached at usc Is last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he wanted to be coached. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if Lincoln Riley was able to coach him

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Speaker 2: to get him ready for the NFL. Because when he's bad,

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Speaker 2: he's playing like he did at usc which was good

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Speaker 2: enough for college. It's just not good enough for the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And he can make all the throws we've seen that.

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Speaker 2: I still think he and Ben Johnson can make some

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Speaker 2: magic there. You had people already moving on this will

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Speaker 2: never work out. I mean people I respect who are saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: this won't work out. If Caleb wants to be coached,

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Speaker 2: then he can be great. And that may sound strange,

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Speaker 2: but these guys are told at a young age how

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Speaker 2: great they are, and why am I listening to you?

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to do it my way. The great

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Speaker 2: Joe Montana said, seventy five percent of my success is

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Speaker 2: because of Bill Walsh because he listened to him. That's

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Speaker 2: the key. Are you going to listen to somebody? Are

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Speaker 2: you going to be coached? That's the most important part

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Speaker 2: of all of this. And not everybody wants to be

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Speaker 2: coached or coached hard. Well, imagine your entire life. You've

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Speaker 2: been great, You've been told you're great, and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're not great. And the trait the

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Speaker 2: biggest thing. I like to see what happens when something

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Speaker 2: goes wrong. That tells me a whole lot about that quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 2: take a break, more phone calls coming up back after this.

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Speaker 2: We are going to celebrate the thirty first anniversary of

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Speaker 2: Shawshank Redemption. At the top of the hour, I want

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Speaker 2: to bring back a portion of my interview with Tim Robbins,

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Speaker 2: Andy Dufrayin and the fascination with this movie that wasn't

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Speaker 2: a box office hit when it came out, but now

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Speaker 2: it feels like it's impossible to not have seen at

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Speaker 2: least a portion of Shawshank Redemption. I watched it last

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Speaker 2: week again and I noticed something I didn't notice before.

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Speaker 2: When Red was out there getting the money underneath the

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Speaker 2: tree and he has this slight, little like quick head turn,

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Speaker 2: hoping nobody is seeing him out there when he gets

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Speaker 2: this money, and he's in the middle of nowhere, when's

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Speaker 2: he Maine? And then he gets that money all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, And they changed the ending because I think

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Speaker 2: it was going to end with him on the bus

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Speaker 2: going to see Tim Robbins, and then they said no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you got to show those two. And then they got

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Speaker 2: together in Saint Lucia and with Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman.

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Speaker 2: But we'll bring back Tim Robbins. We had an interview

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Speaker 2: with him. I don't know how long ago that was,

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Speaker 2: probably you know, seven or eight years ago, but he

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Speaker 2: was really good on that movie and how much money

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Speaker 2: they didn't make. So we'll have that for you coming up.

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Speaker 2: Sergeant in Utah, Hi, sergeant, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 1: DPA?

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Speaker 2: Doing good, good, good six five?

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Speaker 12: First time long time.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 12: I wanted to I wanted to bring up your your

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Speaker 12: interviews and your your questions. Been listening for a long

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Speaker 12: time and being in law enforcement, I'm an expert in interview,

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Speaker 12: in interrogation, and I teach classes to law enforcement to civilians,

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Speaker 12: and I use one of your interviews back when Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 12: Junior the third was on the Seahawks and you were

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Speaker 12: talking about between Pete Carroll and his being upset about

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Speaker 12: an offensive line, what he was not saying, when he

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Speaker 12: wasn't saying anything, but what his body was saying, how

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Speaker 12: he was saying things.

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Speaker 2: I've used that.

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Speaker 12: Interview for years because we all knew how upset Russell

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Speaker 12: Wilson was and the way you described it afterwards, he

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Speaker 12: took his body language, how you said things, when he

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Speaker 12: said things, or when he was saying things, all the

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Speaker 12: unsaid things, we were incredible things that you.

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Speaker 2: All picked up on. And that's something that I do

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Speaker 2: every day.

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Speaker 12: So it's always impressed me of how you interview these

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Speaker 12: you know, these professionals and get everything out of them

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Speaker 12: that you can.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, sergeant, and be safe out there. They'll

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Speaker 2: ask open ended questions. But this started at the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl when I saw Russ sitting next to the Commissioner

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Speaker 2: and Brady and Mahomes were playing in the game, and

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Speaker 2: Russ looked miserable, and I said to Fritzie, I said,

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Speaker 2: see if Russell join us after the super Bowl. And

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Speaker 2: we were supposed to have him on that Friday of

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Speaker 2: super Bowl Week, and then he was there for Walter

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Speaker 2: Payton Man of the Year, and then I said, get

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Speaker 2: him on getting on he's he's sitting on something. And

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Speaker 2: you know Russ famously, you know, like a lot of

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Speaker 2: ath Derek Jeter, you know, they kind of look like

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Speaker 2: or sound like they're telling you something. They're not really

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Speaker 2: telling you anything, but they're very pleasant when they do it.

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Speaker 2: And Russ would do that, and this was different, and

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Speaker 2: I thought, gosh, if I can I just need an

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Speaker 2: opening here, and I viewed him as an opponent I did.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to I got to figure

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Speaker 2: this out because he's got something he wants to he

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Speaker 2: wants to say something. I just don't know if he's

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Speaker 2: going to go into that Russell Wilson mode. And if

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Speaker 2: he does, then I'm not getting anything. And then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden he cracked a little bit, or he

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Speaker 2: was willing to crack, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: it was, you know, either me or coach and then yeah,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, boom, it detonated. That changed a

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Speaker 2: whole lot, whole lot. But thank you for the phone call,

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Speaker 2: Sergeant Matt in Ohio. Hi Matt, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: Hey guys, thanks for having me on again. I had

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Speaker 6: just two things real quick. The first one is you

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Speaker 6: caught me off guard with Shawshank Redemption, because that's my

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Speaker 6: favorite all time movie and I'll never forget the scene

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Speaker 6: where it's at the very end and Morgan Freeman is

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Speaker 6: walking towards mister Dufrain and he can just sense he's

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Speaker 6: there and kind of turns around and looks. I don't

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Speaker 6: know if from remember that part. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it

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Speaker 6: was just it was. And then the other thing is

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Speaker 6: I just want to echo a lot of the great

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Speaker 6: interviews that people have been talking about.

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Speaker 2: And I've noticed that a lot of.

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Speaker 6: Some of the better interviews you have are backup quarterbacks,

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Speaker 6: and they always be a bad rap, but I feel

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Speaker 6: like they get to see a lot of the game

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Speaker 6: and you know, not being caught up right in the

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Speaker 6: mix of it, and they can provide some of the

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Speaker 6: best info I think. I think that's been some of

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Speaker 6: your best interviews personally.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Matt. They do see the game, they're

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Speaker 2: involved in the game, and they're usually not interviewed about

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Speaker 2: the game, and I love the fact that you can

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Speaker 2: have them on Like Chase Daniel is one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite interviews. But it's because he does his homework and

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Speaker 2: I can ask him what do you see and he

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Speaker 2: can tell me and then you know, and tell you

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Speaker 2: the audience and it makes us smarter. And that's always

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Speaker 2: what's great. When you get those quarterbacks who are willing

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Speaker 2: to tell stories, and they're going to be able to

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Speaker 2: tell you something that we don't see because it's so subtle.

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Speaker 2: I mean even I know, I brought up the what

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Speaker 2: do you hear when you're in the pocket to Steve Young,

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Speaker 2: and I asked David and Derek Carr because I'm curious

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Speaker 2: about that you've got chaos around you. And Steve Young

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Speaker 2: yesterday said, you know, I would hear Reggie White just screaming,

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Speaker 2: but he said, for the most part, it's like this

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Speaker 2: kind of white noise that's there for us. It looks like,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, people are yelling and screaming and saying

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Speaker 2: stuff and it's got to be chaos in there. But

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Speaker 2: these guys can be in a vacuum and compartmentalized. And

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Speaker 2: that's what I find amazing, because we see everything around them.

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Speaker 2: They can't. They have to stay in the moment there,

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Speaker 2: all right, coming up. Tim Robbins on Shawshank Redemption thirty

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Speaker 2: one years later,