Speaker 1: This week on a Happy half Hour.
Speaker 2: Dave Canal has talked a good bit in Indy and
Speaker 2: Dan talked about Dave doing this being a developmental guy,
Speaker 2: always wanted to develop everybody. And if you believe in
Speaker 2: your ability to develop people, then betting on upside and
Speaker 2: betting on trades and work.
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Speaker 2: Hello, friends, and welcome back to Charlotte. It's a home
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Speaker 3: Sounds like it's been a while since we've been here.
Speaker 2: I know it's been a while since we've been in
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Speaker 2: of the Carolinas.
Speaker 3: So you don't need the car I don't know it.
Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just know it, except for when
Speaker 2: I don't forget to read.
Speaker 3: So the words are in your heart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are in my heart and also my liver perhaps,
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, we are back from Indy. I mean
Speaker 2: the last time we did this, we were in a
Speaker 2: cavernous room. I'm sure the acoustics were amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure Matt had fun with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But we are back home and I even have
Speaker 2: declared this a successful combine for my favorite reason that
Speaker 2: a combine is either a success or failure. I do
Speaker 2: not have COVID right now. Ooh, that is a Having
Speaker 2: come home from Indianapolis with the novel coronavirus previously, I
Speaker 2: always feel a little good. It's like when you've crossed
Speaker 2: the line. All right, give me one day to day.
Speaker 2: I'm still well. Boom, Okay, I didn't combin anybody.
Speaker 4: I didn't come back with COVID, but I definitely came
Speaker 4: back with the combine crud. That's what I call it,
Speaker 4: where your body's just like, hey, we want to sleep
Speaker 4: for I think at one night I slept for like
Speaker 4: thirteen hours straight after we got home.
Speaker 2: Well, that's because you were out there poisoning your mind,
Speaker 2: your body, spirit, all that intemperance and hateful gossip.
Speaker 3: We just have different words for it. Sometimes it exchanging information.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, there's a lot of information to
Speaker 2: be exchanged, it's combined, and honestly, that's the thing I
Speaker 2: have told people, and I think we mentioned this last week.
Speaker 2: This thing's billed as a college scouting opportunity, but it's
Speaker 2: kind of a trade show for the entire NFL, because
Speaker 2: the entire NFL was there, was together, and they were
Speaker 2: all talking and everybody was gossiping and lying and trying
Speaker 2: to make people think they were doing stuff they were
Speaker 2: not doing.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question though, while we're on
Speaker 4: this subject. There has been a trend in recent years
Speaker 4: started as most trends in the past ten years have
Speaker 4: started with Sean McVay of coaches not coming to the combine,
Speaker 4: and we've kind of seen that trend branch out amongst
Speaker 4: the Sean McVay disciples. Yeah, do you see that hurting them,
Speaker 4: helping them, not making a difference, Like, do you think
Speaker 4: this is going to become a league wide trend over
Speaker 4: the next ten years or is this just a Sean McVay.
Speaker 3: Matt Laflor, here's the.
Speaker 2: Thing I think that I mean, if you are doing
Speaker 2: something else, like if coaches are hiring a new staff
Speaker 2: or working to build a playbook with a brand new
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator or something like that. I can justify it
Speaker 2: if you're doing something else right, But to just not go,
Speaker 2: to be not going seems counterintuitive to me because, as
Speaker 2: I just mentioned, everybody's ny and it's not just the players,
Speaker 2: because I have had coaches tell me they make decisions
Speaker 2: on guys based on conversations they had in the elevator. Yeah,
Speaker 2: based on how they walk through the door, right, I
Speaker 2: mean the way they interact with other people. So I believe,
Speaker 2: you know, it's all just it's like do you put
Speaker 2: more stock in forty time or this? It's all part
Speaker 2: of it. It's one more tool in the toolbox. It's
Speaker 2: one more opportunity to evaluate everything. It's not just how
Speaker 2: fast you run the forty, it's how you interact with,
Speaker 2: you know, people who you know. I've always said you
Speaker 2: can tell what kind of human being someone is by
Speaker 2: the way they treat children, the elderly, waitresses and dogs.
Speaker 2: And if they're bad to those groups of people who
Speaker 2: ostensibly can't do anything for them, then maybe they're bad people.
Speaker 2: So I want to watch everything. I want to be
Speaker 2: a part of everything. But you know, you can make
Speaker 2: a rationalization for not going too because it has become scripted.
Speaker 2: Guys do practice interviews, guys do train specifically for drills
Speaker 2: and forty times. So is it as effective as it
Speaker 2: used to be and as useful as it was in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five? Maybe maybe not, But also there's there's
Speaker 2: all he's a way to find something out.
Speaker 4: For sure, and especially because I believe that the reasoning
Speaker 4: given for some of these coaches not coming, Like the
Speaker 4: first year that McVeigh didn't go, it was because you know,
Speaker 4: that was the year that the RAMS had given away
Speaker 4: all of their picks, and so it was like, what
Speaker 4: am I gonna go do when I'm.
Speaker 2: There, I'm gonna go do a lot of research on
Speaker 2: this one fifth round big exactly.
Speaker 4: And then that was also right after COVID and the
Speaker 4: NFL had started to allow for the thirty visits to
Speaker 4: be done over zoom to some extent, and so you know,
Speaker 4: he was like, I can get everything I need from that.
Speaker 4: I think there's still something that can get lost in
Speaker 4: translation over a zoom.
Speaker 2: Sure, that's just me.
Speaker 4: And so I mean, Dave Canal has told us a
Speaker 4: great story last week that you can see on Panthers
Speaker 4: Dot com One of the reasons they zero did on
Speaker 4: Tyler Lockett was because he watched how he came out
Speaker 4: and put on his cleats before the workouts. That's not
Speaker 4: something you're gonna get over a zoom and.
Speaker 2: So yeah, human human inner actions always valuable, and anytime
Speaker 2: you can get that, I think there's a value in it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I I have you know, I joked with
Speaker 2: Jansen the other week about It's when we were talking
Speaker 2: about Andy Dalton coming back, and one of the stories
Speaker 2: I wrote after Andy re signed to come back for
Speaker 2: another year was how upset Andy got with himself the
Speaker 2: day he had to hold for kicks in practice and
Speaker 2: he wasn't very good at it. And that's a job
Speaker 2: that he wasn't going to be asked to do in
Speaker 2: a game. There was no danger of him doing it
Speaker 2: in a game. But Andy got salty with himself anyway
Speaker 2: because he didn't do it exactly right. And I laughed
Speaker 2: and told JJ here's the part of the program where
Speaker 2: Darren Gant takes a very small thing and extrapolates it
Speaker 2: into a global character trait. So anyway, that's the thing
Speaker 2: I do as a writer often, but I think coaches
Speaker 2: do it all the time too, as you know, and
Speaker 2: there's value in it. I mean Atlanta Terry Fonto, their
Speaker 2: GM told us that, you know, they left their entire
Speaker 2: offensive coaching staff back home because you know, like what's
Speaker 2: happening in Carolina, the Atlanta Falcons are concentrated on bringing
Speaker 2: defensive help in and so they just left all the
Speaker 2: offensive coaches at home because you know, most of those
Speaker 2: positions are accounted for. They got a young quarterback on
Speaker 2: a rookie deal that they're moving forward with. They like
Speaker 2: their skill position talent. You know, they're they're set at
Speaker 2: most of those spots, so you can justify it.
Speaker 4: I can see that allows you to use your meetings
Speaker 4: on more defensive guys.
Speaker 2: Yep. But you know the combine still exists for its
Speaker 2: basic reason, which is get everybody together, do all the
Speaker 2: medical testing in one place. And yes, of course there
Speaker 2: were drills. I know, you know, we could go through
Speaker 2: a lot of this kind of stuff. But I know
Speaker 2: one of your favorites already in this track, crush your guy,
Speaker 2: your guy Shamar.
Speaker 4: He is everybody has a guy every year. My guy
Speaker 4: this year was Shamar Stewart, which I liked him based
Speaker 4: off nothing that was on film or his numbers. I
Speaker 4: just liked the guy from what I met at the
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl, and then he goes out there and he
Speaker 4: has an incredible combine performance. There is a slow worry
Speaker 4: when a guy, especially if that position, has a combine
Speaker 4: performance like that and you do compare it to the tape.
Speaker 4: I think there can be some excuses made for the
Speaker 4: tape because he was playing on such a stack defensive line.
Speaker 2: HM.
Speaker 3: He had four and a half sacks over three years.
Speaker 4: That's one point five sacks, not many, not many, I
Speaker 4: think you can you could find ways to justify it.
Speaker 4: And it's really really easy to fall in love with
Speaker 4: a guy's RAS score.
Speaker 3: But when he has a score that high.
Speaker 4: I think he was like a nine point nine to
Speaker 4: nine out of ten, third highest defensive end score since
Speaker 4: the since they started tracking RIS in nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 4: you can't help but pay attention to that.
Speaker 2: And so oh, I know. And again for those of
Speaker 2: you who don't consume combine content and gratuitous and microscopic detail.
Speaker 2: Shmar Stewart defensive end from Texas A and M had
Speaker 2: a what forty one inch vertical forty one inch thirty
Speaker 2: one inch vertical I mean that's about that's great basketball
Speaker 2: player vertical and he's doing it at about two hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty five.
Speaker 4: He ran a four to four. I think he's one
Speaker 4: of only three players to have a forty one inch
Speaker 4: of that size to have a forty one inch vertical
Speaker 4: and run a sub four or five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so big man who didn't run fast and
Speaker 2: jump high. And you know, there are guys who've done
Speaker 2: it before who haven't had college production. Daniel Hunter was one,
Speaker 2: you know, Rashuon Garrett. There are guys who are able
Speaker 2: to do it. There's usually a reason for it. But
Speaker 2: the idea that, oh this guy only had four and
Speaker 2: a half sacks in three years, we don't want anything
Speaker 2: to do with him, you might be you know, ignoring, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, pretty ridiculous athlete.
Speaker 4: Some of these Georgia kids, you know, they play on
Speaker 4: such a stack defense.
Speaker 3: They don't have great college numbers.
Speaker 2: Aalen Carter never posted a lot of numbers exactly.
Speaker 3: And then look at the Eagles.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't trade Jalen Carter for all the money in the
Speaker 4: world right now?
Speaker 2: And where did he get picked?
Speaker 3: Which one?
Speaker 2: Dick's sixth or eight?
Speaker 3: He was I like that range.
Speaker 2: See what I did.
Speaker 3: There, I see he dropped that right in.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I just think that, you know,
Speaker 2: you have to balance it out. And we'll talk about
Speaker 2: this more as the draft process goes along. But you
Speaker 2: balance the production versus the skills, and you're projecting a
Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, Dave Canalis talked a good bit
Speaker 2: in Indy and Dan talked about Dave doing this being
Speaker 2: a developmental guy, always wanting to develop everybody, And if
Speaker 2: you believe in your ability to develop people, then betting
Speaker 2: on upside and betting on trades can work.
Speaker 4: And I think they've shown, at least on the offensive
Speaker 4: side of the ball this last year, that his coaching
Speaker 4: staff is willing and able to do that. And so
Speaker 4: if that's going to be their mindset, then you have
Speaker 4: to believe it has to work on both sides of
Speaker 4: the ball, and you have to trust your process and
Speaker 4: trust what you can do, and you have to draft
Speaker 4: as such. You know what else you have to do?
Speaker 4: You have to sign free as as such.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do. And you know what, I think they
Speaker 2: call that in the business as segue because it's not
Speaker 2: just a funny looking scooter that Boris dil used to
Speaker 2: ride around Charlotte on You know what I learned.
Speaker 3: The other day.
Speaker 4: I learned this from a question on Jeopardy. Segways were
Speaker 4: discontinued a few years ago. They no longer make them.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was because Boris DL wrote them around Charlotte
Speaker 2: and wasn't necessarily the greatest advertisement.
Speaker 3: For sure, that's why.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, you mentioned free agency, and yeah, we
Speaker 2: are sitting here, it's Thursday afternoon as we're recording this.
Speaker 2: Free agency is going to begin in one of its
Speaker 2: forms next Monday at noon. The tampering period nobody actually
Speaker 2: calls a legal tampering period, the negotiation period during which
Speaker 2: unrestricted free agents are allowed to talk to other teams,
Speaker 2: they cannot strike official deals.
Speaker 3: Be the first time they've ever spoken.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it always is. But it's a two day preview
Speaker 2: basically for free agency, which begins officially Wednesday at four pm.
Speaker 2: And there's gonna be a good bit of movement, I mean,
Speaker 2: and Dan Morgan made it pretty clear when he was
Speaker 2: up in Indianapolis last week. It's going to be a
Speaker 2: busy time. They got stuff to do, and it's going
Speaker 2: to get done pretty quickly. I would think next week,
Speaker 2: I think we're.
Speaker 4: Going to see in this free agency period the market
Speaker 4: get reset on defensive linemen because everybody is going to
Speaker 4: be reacting to what.
Speaker 3: The running backs did last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everybody's going to be reacting to what the
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles stacking up lineman about eight deep and you know,
Speaker 2: just continuing to throw them at people in waves. So
Speaker 2: it's and again, anybody who is familiar with the work
Speaker 2: of the Carolina Panthers defense in twenty twenty four understands
Speaker 2: entitled what Dan Morgan was talking about when he was like, listen,
Speaker 2: what we did on offense last year, we're going to
Speaker 2: do on defense this year. And it starts up front
Speaker 2: last year on offense. That meant in the opening hours
Speaker 2: of free agency, Robert Hunt and Damian Lewis agreed to
Speaker 2: terms on deals with the Carolina Panthers. I would dare
Speaker 2: to say this time next week, we could be talking
Speaker 2: about brand new linemen, brand new pass rushers, brand new safeties.
Speaker 2: And you know, thirty years of experience tells me that
Speaker 2: safety is a position they could address early in free agency. Also,
Speaker 2: the fact that they ain't got but one on the
Speaker 2: roster that tells me also that safety is an area.
Speaker 4: Demanti Richardson can play every safety position by himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and he'll sing to us while he
Speaker 2: does it, right, So it's uh yeah, I mean you knew.
Speaker 2: I mean, based on the season the Carolina Panthers had,
Speaker 2: you don't break the records they broke. You don't set
Speaker 2: the marks they set in terms of run defense, total defense,
Speaker 2: and points allowed without making it an emphasis the following
Speaker 2: year to go out and fix.
Speaker 4: That thing exactly, and especially at the safety position too.
Speaker 4: I think we could see maybe a different approach, you know,
Speaker 4: to that safety position because it's been a lot of Okay,
Speaker 4: these guys can play special teams and defense, and I
Speaker 4: think you even said this the other day. Might that
Speaker 4: switch to they can play defense and special team.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah? I mean, And that's the thing. This team
Speaker 2: last year was wealthy and special team specialists, I mean
Speaker 2: cats like Lonnie Johnson, Sam Franklin, John Radagan, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. I think what the Carolina Panthers need is
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys who are better at defense and
Speaker 2: can also add some value. So we'll see how that
Speaker 2: shakes out. But I just think in the early parts
Speaker 2: of free agency, the stuff we're gonna be doing, the
Speaker 2: stuff we're gonna be writing about first part of the
Speaker 2: next week. It's going to be all about upgrading that defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and especially upfront two because I mean, like you said,
Speaker 4: with Robert Hunt and Damien Lewis, for as fancy and
Speaker 4: as flashy as things can get, this game is still
Speaker 4: one in the trenches. And if you're gonna hold your own,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to beef up that defensive line. Sure,
Speaker 4: you have said. If you've said it once, you've said
Speaker 4: it a million times the past couple of months. They're
Speaker 4: gonna get one of the best in the business when
Speaker 4: they get Derek Brown back on the field.
Speaker 1: M M.
Speaker 4: But you know, and that almost gives you a little
Speaker 4: bit of leeway, maybe more in free agency and in
Speaker 4: the draft. You're not necessarily having to go out and
Speaker 4: get a number one guy. Yeah, you can get to
Speaker 4: number two or pay for a number two.
Speaker 2: Well, you're going to get a guy who is going
Speaker 2: to likely become better by virtue of standing next to
Speaker 2: Derrick Brown. You know. I think that's the thing that's
Speaker 2: important to note is you know, you can go out
Speaker 2: and again, if they go out with the intent that
Speaker 2: they displayed last year when they signed Rob Hunt and
Speaker 2: Damian Lewis. Then that grade of player is pretty good
Speaker 2: already on his own. But when you park him next
Speaker 2: to Derek Brown and you know, A'shawn Robinson's over there
Speaker 2: on the other side, then all of a sudden you
Speaker 2: look around and say, Okay, well that's a front that
Speaker 2: ought to be a lot better at run defense.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Good.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what else to add to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I talk so much that sometimes the
Speaker 2: absence of Darren talking is a jarring thing for human beings.
Speaker 2: So it's it's definitely.
Speaker 4: Just I went mind blake, and you said it so well,
Speaker 4: I was like, sure, yeah.
Speaker 2: But the other thing that happens, I mean, there's gonna
Speaker 2: be a lot of names, and people always fall in
Speaker 2: love with names this time of year. But one of
Speaker 2: the things I always like to point out in my
Speaker 2: role as the old person who's seen many things, is
Speaker 2: it don't always work out that way. Uh, if you were.
Speaker 3: Older, not the only team bidding for these people.
Speaker 2: Well you're not that, and not everything works out the
Speaker 2: way you think it's going to. I am old enough
Speaker 2: to remember a time when the Carolina Panthers were also
Speaker 2: looking to fortify a defensive line, and they did it
Speaker 2: by acquiring Reggie White and a gentleman named Eric Swan.
Speaker 2: And they were going to weaken one of their division
Speaker 2: rivals by signing pass rusher Chuck Smith away from the
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons. And I remember talking to Chuck Smith when
Speaker 2: he came in on his visit, caught him at his hotel,
Speaker 2: and you know, Chuck was like, I'm fired up about it.
Speaker 2: I know, I've been a Falcon for a long time,
Speaker 2: looking forward to getting here and really wreaking hav it,
Speaker 2: you know, playing with these guys, this, that, and the other.
Speaker 2: They were gonna pair up with Sean Gilbert, who was
Speaker 2: acquired as a franchise free agent a couple of years earlier,
Speaker 2: and Chuck Smith was excited to get with those guys.
Speaker 2: Chuck Smith played exactly two games for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2: What happened, Yeah, Well, as it turns out, his knees
Speaker 2: were shot and they probably shouldn't have signed it to
Speaker 2: again with. But this was the George Sea Ferd era,
Speaker 2: and things happened every now and then because reasons. But
Speaker 2: there were Yeah, I mean, d L's over here. Laughing
Speaker 2: on the other side of the room because he's like me.
Speaker 2: He remembers Mount Rushmore, he remembers Panthers legend, Reggie White,
Speaker 2: Sean Gilbert, Eric Swan, and Chuck Smith, who you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it didn't work out the way anybody thought it did.
Speaker 2: When the local newspaper made a really fancy graphic putting
Speaker 2: those four guys if they were presidents on the side
Speaker 2: of the South Dakota Mountain.
Speaker 4: There, when you have Reggie White, you feel like you
Speaker 4: could put anybody else in there and be okay.
Speaker 2: And they ended up putting anybody else in there. I
Speaker 2: think Tim Moribido ended up in there at times. But
Speaker 2: uh no, it was It was kind of a mess.
Speaker 2: And and you know, free agency just does that. I
Speaker 2: mean things that seem like great ideas at the time.
Speaker 2: You know, once upon a time, Uh they signed a
Speaker 2: guy Justin Hartwig because they needed somebody to stabilize the
Speaker 2: center position in the middle of an offensive line. And
Speaker 2: Justin Harwig was pretty good at football. But the next year,
Speaker 2: in the second round, they're looking at their board and
Speaker 2: the best player available sitting there at fifty seven ish
Speaker 2: was a guy named Ryan Khalil.
Speaker 3: And remember all this and you.
Speaker 2: My brain is a broken place. I don't know where
Speaker 2: my keys are.
Speaker 3: A lot of days, do you remember, right?
Speaker 2: But I remember? But I remember Justin Hartwig and Ryan
Speaker 2: Khalil like their family members. But yeah, I mean Hartwig
Speaker 2: was a perfectly good center. I mean they paid him
Speaker 2: decent money to come from Tennessee, I remember, and he
Speaker 2: was pretty good at the game. But once you drafted
Speaker 2: Ryan Khalil, and then Ryan was standing around for a
Speaker 2: year with nothing to do. I mean he was playing
Speaker 2: guard in some games and filling in here and there.
Speaker 2: But then you realized, oh my god, we've got a
Speaker 2: five time pro bowler sitting here on the bench. Let's
Speaker 2: play him instead. So free agency gets a lot of attention.
Speaker 2: It makes for great content this time of year, when
Speaker 2: things slowed down in that little wall. Before you know,
Speaker 2: we're what forty nine days out from the draft, so
Speaker 2: we got to have stuff to talk about for the
Speaker 2: next seven weeks. But it's often not the kind of
Speaker 2: determinative factor I will never forget. I mean, speaking of
Speaker 2: free agency stories and stuff, I remember that. You wonder
Speaker 2: why I should? Who can forget Keyshawn Johnson's Panthers era?
Speaker 3: How long was that era.
Speaker 2: That era, it was exactly one year long.
Speaker 3: But I remember Sara any significant period of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it was definitely significant. I remember calling Keishawn
Speaker 2: on the phone when I found out he was coming
Speaker 2: here for a visit, and Keishaan says, how'd you get
Speaker 2: this number? Come on, Keishawn, I'm a reporter. I find
Speaker 2: things out in exchange for money. I can't tell you
Speaker 2: that that would be betraying a confidence. Well, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I can talk to you. If you don't
Speaker 2: tell me where you got this number, well I can't
Speaker 2: do that. I hope we can come to some kind
Speaker 2: of agreement. And the phone goes click, and I thought,
Speaker 2: all right, Keishawn Johnson's principal man, he doesn't want to
Speaker 2: talk to me today. So about thirty seconds later, my
Speaker 2: phone rings and I answered, Miss Darren, Hey, Daron's Keyshan,
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. I was going through TSA. My man
Speaker 2: just had to run his phone through the middle detector
Speaker 2: and it was as soon as he was on the
Speaker 2: other side of the security.
Speaker 3: Part is that he didn't tell you that's what was
Speaker 3: gonna happen, right, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, but that was part of Kishon's persona. So
Speaker 2: he was a delightful fellow. We made many fond memories
Speaker 2: together in that one year he was here, but it
Speaker 2: didn't quite work out. And that's the thing I mean.
Speaker 2: I think if you want to approach free agency successfully,
Speaker 2: you gotta not fall in love with recognizable names, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, we were talking this morning about Joey Bosa,
Speaker 2: and Joey Bosa's name pops up to the Panthers need
Speaker 2: pass rusher, Of course they do. Do they need thirty
Speaker 2: three year old pass rushers played twenty eight games in
Speaker 2: the last three years?
Speaker 4: Maybe not.
Speaker 2: I think they'd probably rather have somebody young. I just
Speaker 2: go back to last year and if if this is
Speaker 2: the same kind of statement of intent, you know, you
Speaker 2: look at last year when they go out and sign
Speaker 2: Damien and Rob those guys were twenty six and twenty
Speaker 2: seven years old. That's NFL prime. I mean, those are
Speaker 2: guys who had been starters for four years on rookie
Speaker 2: contracts and finally got that first body of the apple
Speaker 2: and free agency, I think that's what you'd rather have.
Speaker 2: You can always go find old guys later on. But
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to make a real impact
Speaker 2: on a defense, you go out and find those guys
Speaker 2: who were in their fifth six years rather than their
Speaker 2: tenth twelve, all those.
Speaker 4: Guys coming off their first contracts, their rookie contracts, or
Speaker 4: you know, maybe even somebody that that started as like a.
Speaker 3: UDFA and kind of work their way up on one
Speaker 3: year deals. Give him his first long term contract.
Speaker 2: Man, I can only imagine when Sane Anderson becomes available
Speaker 2: from you. You're gonna be a mask. We're not gonna
Speaker 2: be able to tell you nothing. You'll you'll be down
Speaker 2: with the safety. You'll be down in Dan's office advocating front.
Speaker 4: No I know, but this His name is Sane Anderson,
Speaker 4: and you need him, Yeah, no doubt, for no other reason.
Speaker 3: Than just content content gold.
Speaker 2: So anyway that we should.
Speaker 4: Be able to give Dan a list of like these
Speaker 4: are our top five content free agent targets. Yeah, see
Speaker 4: if you can work them in.
Speaker 2: Who's the guy the Viking safety?
Speaker 3: The Viking safety, Yeah can buy.
Speaker 2: It, cam by it. You know you don't want him
Speaker 2: because of his reign jury that could not.
Speaker 4: Tell you what kind of safety he is, although he
Speaker 4: must be good because he was constantly.
Speaker 3: In the end zone celebrating. So you've got a lot
Speaker 3: of turnovers.
Speaker 2: I guess you're there for the choreography.
Speaker 4: I know that makes me think of what, you know,
Speaker 4: the movie White Christmas. There's like a song about choreography. Anyways, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he would be good for content. There's there's a couple
Speaker 4: of guys that would be great for content.
Speaker 2: Jamis Oh, Jamis Winston man he is, he is Manna
Speaker 2: from heaven. But uh what what Dan Morgan, what Brent Tillis,
Speaker 2: what Dave Canalis are looking for is not content gold.
Speaker 2: What they're looking for is actual gold on the football field.
Speaker 2: We will see by the time we catch up with
Speaker 2: you again Tail in the next week, many many things
Speaker 2: will change. We will know names, We will have talked
Speaker 2: to many of these fine gentlemen, and we will continue
Speaker 2: at all when we visit again on the next Happy
Speaker 2: half Hour