WEBVTT - A Dog Just Shot Someone! 

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and Getty and he

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to get you to some breaking news just

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<v Speaker 3>out of our newsroom here at Fox thirteen. A man

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<v Speaker 3>is in the hospital after being shot in the leg

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<v Speaker 3>overnight if his police say he was shot by his dog. Seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's right. This happened just before four

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<v Speaker 3>am at a home on Whitney Avenue in Fraser Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Police say the man was lying in the bed with

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<v Speaker 3>a girl with a gun on the bed. Police say

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<v Speaker 3>his dog jumped up on the bed, got is Paul

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<v Speaker 3>stuck in the trigger and ended up hitting the trigger,

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<v Speaker 3>shooting the man in the thigh.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow accident.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the dog claims, you pretend to throw the

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<v Speaker 1>tennis ball, you stick it in the couch cushion one

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<v Speaker 1>too many times?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and Dora, I'm supposed to be there in the

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<v Speaker 4>bed next to you. And who's this?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh? You cheating bastard. When's the last time I went

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<v Speaker 2>for a walk? Can you even remember? Pow Wow Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>bad boy, bad dog.

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<v Speaker 1>My dog ties him to a chair. Like reservoir dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting up with this anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Right Wait, so, uh Jack Michael, do we have that

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<v Speaker 4>the two rappers were talking and gunshots went off?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a candidate for clip of the year. So I

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<v Speaker 2>like the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly this news anchor who's got a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>kent bruckman Will Ferrell vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently he was just handed this breaking news not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>he was about to do a story about a man

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<v Speaker 1>who was shot by a dog at four a m. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so could happen. It's also possible that he was messing

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<v Speaker 1>around with his gun, or she shot him or something.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to tell anybody what actually happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, that's that's at least, although you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not implausible that if you are living the lifestyle where

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<v Speaker 4>you're lying in bed with quote unquote a girl who

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<v Speaker 4>wrote that story, did they need a woman? I would hope,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's a gun laying there for some reason, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't put it on the nightstand even Yeah, you're living

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<v Speaker 4>the sort of lifestyle where your dog shoots it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he or she likes the gun pointed at them

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<v Speaker 1>during their romantic times. Oh good, lord. No, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that in the Sopranos. Remember one of them. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>liked having a gun to their head.

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<v Speaker 2>Turning Sawdrey. It's way too Tawdrey.

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<v Speaker 1>No, a dog just shot someone. This is time for

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<v Speaker 1>frank talk the pastor rising.

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<v Speaker 4>Up as I predicted, Go ahead, Michael and Joy as

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<v Speaker 4>we got in life.

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<v Speaker 2>Those were your choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody got shot?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh how good? The dirty dead? What I want with

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<v Speaker 2>my idea? Don't shut me.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody, everybody, everybody that's the sort of guy who's in

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<v Speaker 4>bed with a girl and a dog shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a much more relaxed, lighthearted view of shootings

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<v Speaker 1>in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>On fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Shootings in the room. I mean, it's not even an

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<v Speaker 1>accidental shooting at the range or outdoors or something. We're

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<v Speaker 1>in a room with a number of people. A gun

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<v Speaker 1>gots off, somebody's been shot. You good, I've been shotting.

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<v Speaker 2>You good? You good? Everybody good? Okay, Yes, I was saying, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>you've different lived a different lifestyle than I have.

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<v Speaker 5>A right.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, what are your plans today? You guys A hungry

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hungry. Yeah. Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That other one, just the beginning part where the anchor

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<v Speaker 1>gets to the because I just find this funny.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to get you to some breaking news just

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<v Speaker 3>out of our newsroom here at Fox thirteen. A man

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<v Speaker 3>is in the hospital after being shot in the leg overnight.

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<v Speaker 3>If the police say he was shot by his dog, seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's right. Uh. This happened just before

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<v Speaker 3>four a m. And the dog Hitney Avenue in the

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<v Speaker 3>Fraser Wow. Police say the man was lying in the

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<v Speaker 3>bed with a girl with a gun on the bed.

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<v Speaker 3>Police say his dog jumped up on the bed. God

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<v Speaker 3>is Paul stuck in the trigger and ended up hitting

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<v Speaker 3>the trigger, shooting the.

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<v Speaker 2>Man in the thigh. Wow. Four in the morning. I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't eating lambon rice anymore. Give me some real freaking food.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a hunting dog? Boy?

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<v Speaker 1>So there's actual and of course some background checks. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know any of those things. Gun loopholes, what went

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<v Speaker 1>on there?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and if I was going to make a serious

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<v Speaker 4>point about it, that's the very sort of person that

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic prosecutors would never enforce gun laws against.

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<v Speaker 2>They howl for more gun laws constantly. And then I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I walked into that didn't I?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know, perhaps it's best to just move on

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<v Speaker 4>to other fair I don't know why I enjoy giving

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<v Speaker 4>JIV names to uh features sets of stories, but I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack.

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<v Speaker 4>So you get the choice between golden state of confusion.

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<v Speaker 2>Or how markets really work.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go with much more so just because the lack

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<v Speaker 4>of jiviness.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious after the ridiculousness.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, So story number one why the US keeps

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<v Speaker 4>losing to China in the battle over critical minerals because

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<v Speaker 4>everybody knows that the minerals, the rarest the metals everybody's

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<v Speaker 4>talking about that go into so much new technology. He

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<v Speaker 4>or they who control access to those things controls the

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<v Speaker 4>world economy to a large extent.

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<v Speaker 2>And the obvious issue with.

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<v Speaker 4>That is that if we continue to be highly dependent

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<v Speaker 4>on China to come up with those materials, we're screwed

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<v Speaker 4>as an economy the minute they decide to tweak us

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<v Speaker 4>or bring us to our knees. So you have this

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<v Speaker 4>story of the effort to get a big giant New

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<v Speaker 4>America and our allies run graphite.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine, and.

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<v Speaker 4>The goal to challenge China's dominance over the world supply

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<v Speaker 4>of a critical mineral used in everything from electric vehicles

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<v Speaker 4>to submarine hubs and so this Australia based mining company

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<v Speaker 4>backed by more than one hundred million dollars of US

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<v Speaker 4>government financing, maybe a worthy goal. Kind of funny, There

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't any discussion of this, but this is what our

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<v Speaker 4>giant government does. Opened a mine in Mozambique and built

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<v Speaker 4>a graphite processing plant in Louisiana, the first of its

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<v Speaker 4>type in the US. It also signed a sales deal

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<v Speaker 4>with Tesla, which is historically brought graph height for cars

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<v Speaker 4>from China, for the battery specifically.

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<v Speaker 2>But then things start to go off the rails.

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<v Speaker 4>China, which provides more than ninety percent of the world's

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<v Speaker 4>battery grade graph height supply, jacked up its production.

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<v Speaker 1>How many did the market? How many stories include China

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<v Speaker 1>supplies ninety eight percent of this or that way too many?

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<v Speaker 4>And whether Trump's plans bear fruit or not, and whether

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<v Speaker 4>He's allowed to even get the plans going fully is

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<v Speaker 4>anybody's guest. But this is the very sort of thing

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<v Speaker 4>that he and his advisors are trying to wean.

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<v Speaker 2>Us from, the sort of dependence.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, the gist of the story is so China,

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<v Speaker 4>which provides were ninety percent of the world's battery grade

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<v Speaker 4>graph height supply jacked up its production, flooding the market

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<v Speaker 4>and driving prices so low that this mine, this company

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<v Speaker 4>could not mine profitably.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Last May, the Biden administration delayed new rules that would

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<v Speaker 4>have penalized US buyers from buying Chinese graph fight for

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<v Speaker 4>reasons that I don't recall, probably because they were trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get Shijin Ping to do something. In Mozambique, farmers

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<v Speaker 4>resettled from the mining company's mind staged protests, shutting down

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<v Speaker 4>the mining and the Louisiana plant, now open for a year,

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<v Speaker 4>has yet to make its first commercial sale, and the

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<v Speaker 4>company's stock is plunged by around ninety percent since the

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<v Speaker 4>start of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting, and once again the difficulties of a

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<v Speaker 1>an authoritarian entry. When one guy can make decisions in

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<v Speaker 1>a democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's tough.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And as always, there's a lot more detail and

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<v Speaker 4>nuance to it, but we'll leave it here. I love, love, love,

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<v Speaker 4>love love the free market in so many ways. It's

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<v Speaker 4>lifted billions of people out of poverty, on lace new

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<v Speaker 4>medicines across the globe. It has profit is the reason

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<v Speaker 4>for charity. It's the reason charity exists. You have to

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<v Speaker 4>have more than you need to feed yourself to give

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<v Speaker 4>to charity. Anyway, as we retrench from the dream of globalization, though,

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<v Speaker 4>there are going to be some rainings in of the

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<v Speaker 4>free market, and it's going to be stops and starts.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to be really difficult anyway not to get

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<v Speaker 4>hung up on that, because you could talk about it

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<v Speaker 4>for a year and a half and write five thousand

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<v Speaker 4>page books on it and not cover it. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>this was interesting how markets really are. Jack the rise

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<v Speaker 4>and fall of the Napa Valley of Cannabis. When Colorado

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<v Speaker 4>became one of the first day to legalize recreational marriage, Juana,

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<v Speaker 4>an enthusiastic county commissioner in Pueblo, said he wanted Pueblo

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<v Speaker 4>to become the Napa Valley of Cannabis.

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<v Speaker 2>And they talked a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Bit in the Wall Street Journal about the situation. Big

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<v Speaker 4>slaughterhouse had closed years earlier, steel mill had been shedding workers.

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<v Speaker 4>They're really hurting for jobs and tax revenue, and a

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<v Speaker 4>cannabis boom would do that for them. The streets were

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<v Speaker 4>going to be paved with gold, recalled one resident. The

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<v Speaker 4>elementary schools were going to be the greatest in the country.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they talk about, you know, the classic meme,

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<v Speaker 4>how it started, how it's going. In the first weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>the only two shops then licensed in the county, round

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<v Speaker 4>rang Up combined one million dollars in sales the first month,

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<v Speaker 4>Wow sending fifty six thousand dollars in taxes to the county.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody was just thrilled and happy. Decade and high decade later,

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<v Speaker 4>Pueblo's dreams have gone up in smoke. A once thriving

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<v Speaker 4>industry of retailers, growers, in cannabis, oil extractors. There were

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<v Speaker 4>more than two hundred of these businesses in twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>in that county. More than two hundred. It's collapsed. Only

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<v Speaker 4>forty five remain. State records indicate county tax revenue plunge

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<v Speaker 4>from more than seven point one million dollars to four

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<v Speaker 4>point eight million twenty twenty three, which is still a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty significant amount of money. And you could argue that

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<v Speaker 4>they're just thinning the herd and the stronger surviving the

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<v Speaker 4>way it goes in capitalism.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the problem. In California knows this too.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been a huge problem because the rosy rosy promise

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<v Speaker 4>is made to Californians in Colorados alike. Even after legalization,

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<v Speaker 4>illicit growers and sellers thrived, even right in Pueblo. Last year,

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<v Speaker 4>they accounted for seventy percent of the US market, according

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<v Speaker 4>to research companies. The black market dealers, unlike licensed ones,

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<v Speaker 4>face neither taxes nor red tape, so they're more efficient

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<v Speaker 4>and they're cheaper, and it's bad for your brain.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting, man, if you're counting on enough people smoking

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<v Speaker 1>enough pot to you know, make your schools great and

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<v Speaker 1>everything like that, that's just that's an interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It is, and it's probably not a sustainable way to

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<v Speaker 4>run a society.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Nationwide, only twenty seven percent of legal cannabis businesses are profitable,

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<v Speaker 4>which is two percent just three years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Did not know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, investment is dried up, restructurings are rising, and in Pueblo,

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<v Speaker 4>sentiment about legal pot is swung the other way, fueling

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<v Speaker 4>a backlash against the county's embrace of the industry. And again,

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of complicated and a lot of nuance to it,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's just it's not nearly the dream it was

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<v Speaker 4>sold to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>And the one The one aspect you should understand, it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of intuitive, is that if it's legal, enforcing laws

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<v Speaker 4>against the illegal stuff becomes so complicated because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>half of it, sixty percent of it, depending on where

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<v Speaker 4>you are, is legal. And so what are the cups

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to do if they see a bunch of guys

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<v Speaker 4>smoking pot?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? First of all, you put that cone on my

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<v Speaker 1>head again, I'm gonna shoot you again.

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<v Speaker 2>That's our deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Secondly, Elon did a wide ranging interview Tesla's getting attacked

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<v Speaker 1>all over the country. A bunch of stuff on that

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<v Speaker 1>stick around, maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>To get Luke colmbs Man.

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<v Speaker 1>When he's saying this with Tracy Chapman, it says Granny's

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<v Speaker 1>last year or country music Orge worry of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was awesome, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So this I want you to listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me if you understand what this is. Luke

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<v Speaker 1>colmbs giant country star, two time entertainer year blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, one of my favorite country singers currently and.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't look like an underwear model. God i'd say not,

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<v Speaker 2>big old boy.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's got this weird medical condition he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday on the News and I don't even understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched it twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Just listen to a little of this country music star

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<v Speaker 1>Luke HOLMBS revealing he's been living with a condition known

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<v Speaker 1>as purely obsessional obsessive compulsive disorder.

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<v Speaker 7>The variant that I have is particularly wicked because you

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<v Speaker 7>there's no outward manifestation of it right, Like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 7>the flicking of the light switch is all going on

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<v Speaker 7>in here for me, the flicking of the light switch

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<v Speaker 7>for someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Else, you can see that going on. So for someone

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<v Speaker 2>like myself, you don't even know what's going on. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be going on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you understand what the hell that meant? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't. They don't explain it more as okay,

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<v Speaker 1>explain it to me. Then I didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, It's just he becomes obsessed with certain thoughts and

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<v Speaker 4>can't get past them in the same way as somebody

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<v Speaker 4>who has a different sort of OCD has to drive

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<v Speaker 4>around the block three times, or or flip the light switch,

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<v Speaker 4>or believes that they killed somebody on the drive in

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<v Speaker 4>and has to retrace the root.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just okay, just manifests itself differently.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so, so I was misled by the light switch thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know some people with OCD. You can't ever

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<v Speaker 1>go to sleep because you think, did I turn the

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<v Speaker 1>light off downstairs? I'll go check again, yeah, And then

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<v Speaker 1>you get back back up in bed you think did

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<v Speaker 1>I turn it off?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I just checked, but I'm not sure, and

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<v Speaker 2>it drives you nuts.

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<v Speaker 8>But he's saying, well, I know somebody with a similar

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<v Speaker 8>thing where they are were plagued by recurring thoughts of.

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<v Speaker 4>Terrible things happening and or doing terrible things. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 4>to the point that it was scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, it's debilitating, and he's had it since he

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<v Speaker 1>was a little kid. Probably how he ended up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>turning toward music like a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend, remember Corey we used to work with. He collected

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<v Speaker 1>quarters in a giant jar in his apartment. All quarters

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<v Speaker 1>he'd throw.

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<v Speaker 2>In his jar. He'd been doing it forever and he

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<v Speaker 2>had it's tremendous eye.

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<v Speaker 1>But he would think that there might be a nickel

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<v Speaker 1>in that jar where he's like in bed, and he

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<v Speaker 1>would have to dump out the entire jar and go

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<v Speaker 1>through it and make sure there's not a nickel. In there,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all quarters put him back in there. Then he'd

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<v Speaker 1>get back in bed and like, am I sure it

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<v Speaker 1>checked it correctly? Oh? So thank god I don't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got other things, but I don't have that. Yeah, yeah, awful.

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<v Speaker 4>We worked with the people are able to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>that more, you know, and get help for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We worked with a guy I had really bad OCD,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Bell. I mean he was public about it. He

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a book about it. We interviewed him about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, really interesting book. Yeah, yeah, we worked him for years.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know he had OCD until he left, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do remember coming out of the bathroom one time.

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<v Speaker 1>He was waiting for the bathroom and I come out

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<v Speaker 1>the door and he said, did you hit a very.

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<v Speaker 2>Little voice, did you wash your hands? What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear? Did you wash your hands? His OCD

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<v Speaker 1>was just so worried that I hadn't washed my hands,

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<v Speaker 1>which I may have not, I don't know. But yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>elon with quite the interview yesterday interesting in a number

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<v Speaker 1>of ways, including the way Tesla's being attacked, the way

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting an endless death threat, and he's worried some

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<v Speaker 1>nut job is going to hear these hitler and take

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<v Speaker 1>him out, not understanding he's just trying to cut government

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<v Speaker 1>bureaucracy anyway, a bunch of stuff on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you can stay here, armstrong and getty.

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<v Speaker 9>Entitlements is the wrong word. If you pay into something,

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<v Speaker 9>you are investing in your future, your money, so in

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<v Speaker 9>the expectation you'll get.

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<v Speaker 2>It back after you retire.

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<v Speaker 9>Any attempt as I think Trump knows, to mess with

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<v Speaker 9>that is political dynamite. Elon Musk is as political standing

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<v Speaker 9>in this town is falling almost as fast as Tesla's

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<v Speaker 9>share price. He is an albatross around Trump's neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Elon Musk and albatross around Trump's neck. Elon in

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<v Speaker 1>a wide ranging interview which we're going to play for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of coming up, but mentioned entitlements is

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<v Speaker 1>what we got to cut. So there's now an other

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<v Speaker 1>reason for the people that hated Elon to hate him.

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<v Speaker 1>As you're hearing it affecting people's attitudes towards Tesla in

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<v Speaker 1>this report, Elon.

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<v Speaker 5>Must jump into politics is not drawing backlash, but Tesla

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<v Speaker 5>takedown protests across the country. Tesla owners had become targets too.

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<v Speaker 5>It was right here, like doctor Kumate Jarrus who found

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<v Speaker 5>a profane sticker on his cyber truck.

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<v Speaker 10>Three guys came out of the car and just pointed

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<v Speaker 10>the metal finger started screaming at me.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're going to miss the car.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great car.

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<v Speaker 10>I will miss the car.

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<v Speaker 2>I will miss the car.

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<v Speaker 10>But your principles are I think for now, principles have

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<v Speaker 10>to take priority.

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<v Speaker 5>Bavic Schokreon has owned his Tesla since twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I was a big believer. I felt like this is

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<v Speaker 10>somebody who cares and a company that's doing, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>cool things, and just within an election cycle, it all

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<v Speaker 10>kind of turned on its head.

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<v Speaker 4>It's probably worth pointing out, I, Judy and I have

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of cars. I don't have the slightest idea

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<v Speaker 4>what the CEOs of those companies think about anything, right

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<v Speaker 4>Dog versus Cat, Beetles, Stone Coage, free Market.

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<v Speaker 1>I got no idea, no kidding. Oh yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 1>this car, but you know, principles have to take priority.

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<v Speaker 1>What what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>You know you could absolutely argue Elon Musk has brought

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<v Speaker 4>this upon himself in the same way that you know

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<v Speaker 4>Sears Roebuck never had talking garments for transgender little kids

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<v Speaker 4>like Target trotted out.

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<v Speaker 2>But what would say you drive a Oh no, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the person, not the product. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Go on, say you're a person of the right and

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<v Speaker 1>you drive a Chevy truck, for instance, what would the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO have to do before you'd actually sell your truck

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<v Speaker 1>and get a different vehicle?

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<v Speaker 2>Higher Dylan mulvaney as a spokesperson.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a lot different selling a truck, you like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because you start moving cars around, you lose

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<v Speaker 1>lots of money really really fast. It's not like switching

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<v Speaker 1>beer brands. Now I'm gonna drink cors Light instead.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, right, Well, the interesting thing is that if you

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<v Speaker 4>separate Elon Musk and Trump from the conversation and you

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<v Speaker 4>just bring up the things he is doing, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think he actually addresses that. I don't want to steal

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<v Speaker 4>his thunder, but it's enormously popular eliminating waste and fraud

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<v Speaker 4>and abuse. Who's against that exactly? I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 4>your argument, don't you see? Fraud runs the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said at the beginning of the show, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna get a cyberbeast with a personalized license plate.

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<v Speaker 2>That says doge.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love the idea of driving around a giant

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<v Speaker 1>middle finger to people who are supporting government waste. That's

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<v Speaker 1>your position, Okay, feel free to go ahead and stick

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<v Speaker 1>with that, you moron.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's this is not like, it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>like the trans issue. It's just who's for government waste?

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<v Speaker 4>I see a crowd of beefy, angry university women surrounding

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<v Speaker 4>you and pounding you with They're mighty modern, radicalized angry.

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<v Speaker 4>Never had a boyfriend fists.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, if if Tesla becomes the political middle finger to

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<v Speaker 1>big government people, I've never I don't know if I've

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<v Speaker 1>purchased or not purchased things based on politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what four years after it was a giant virtue

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<v Speaker 4>signal for being a green energy dreamer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that guy you just heard, he's been driving Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>He got in at.

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<v Speaker 1>The very beginning when it really was was unwieldy, and

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<v Speaker 1>but was gonna stick to it because a climate change,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know whatever. So here's Elon being asking is

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<v Speaker 1>interview yesterday about how things how he's become a lightning rondo,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean the ways important in entitlement spending.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is this is forty we want forty.

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<v Speaker 11>They're setting fire to various Tesla charging stations near Boston.

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<v Speaker 11>Shots were fired at a Tesla dealership in Oregon. Various

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<v Speaker 11>non violence.

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<v Speaker 6>What's fired?

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<v Speaker 2>Not a metaphor? Notts fired?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, downtown New York marching, marching against the Tesla's showroom.

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<v Speaker 11>Your stock is way down. You've been criticized left and right.

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<v Speaker 2>But look on the right side. I mean, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing this?

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<v Speaker 6>Always look on the right side of life.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, But besides that, yes, I mean, what motivates you

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<v Speaker 11>to do this?

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<v Speaker 2>First was the opera Good?

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<v Speaker 6>It's tough sledding, Yeah, it is tough sledding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes on to talk about how many death

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<v Speaker 1>threats he's getting.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter got hacked yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>He says it was the Ukrainians, although how do you

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<v Speaker 1>know where it came from?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would they try to enrage Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whose starlink system sustains them, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting tons of death threats every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, and I thought this was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons they're posting online all the departments

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<v Speaker 1>that they want to cut or waste that they're finding.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you know, which of these do you not agree with?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't agree that this program is blah blah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's discuss that and all that sort of stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's concerned that somebody's just gonna hear he's hitler who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't pay attention to this stuff, and will want to

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<v Speaker 1>take him out, which absolutely could happen. I'm sure with

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<v Speaker 1>his money, he's got some pretty tremendous security, but he'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to live in fear of being in any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of public place the rest of his life.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's practically a Salmon Rushti case at this point,

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely demonized.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, and probably by extension maybe he is

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<v Speaker 1>any of his fifteen kids and that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which really really sucks. But what got him going on

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<v Speaker 1>this in the first place? At DOJE, I thought this

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<v Speaker 1>answer was good.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, factly, I can't believe I'm here doing this.

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<v Speaker 6>It's kind of bizarre, but I kind of think that

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<v Speaker 6>the Yeah, we've got this enormous federal budget deficit, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's a true trillion dollar deficit. It keeps growing, our

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<v Speaker 6>interest payments are higher than our defense department budget. That's

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<v Speaker 6>I think was the real wake up call for me

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<v Speaker 6>was looking at seeing that the interest payments the national

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<v Speaker 6>debt exceeded the defense department budget, and that was only

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<v Speaker 6>growing over time, which meant if we didn't do something

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<v Speaker 6>about this, then there won't be any money for anything,

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<v Speaker 6>We'll just be servicing debt.

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<v Speaker 11>You've had some business experience, I'm kidding, but yeah, you

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<v Speaker 11>know about all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean really, I just don't want America to

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<v Speaker 6>go bankrupt.

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<v Speaker 2>That is one hundred true.

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<v Speaker 4>What percentage of Americans do you think know that that

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<v Speaker 4>our interest lost, not our debt, just the interest on

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<v Speaker 4>the debt is greater than our defense spending.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it ten percent wouldn't be a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think a lot of people know that

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<v Speaker 1>we're on an unsustainable path.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people know that. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of voters know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, and just are willing to ignore it, which is

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<v Speaker 1>worse than not knowing it. The fact that you do

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<v Speaker 1>know it and think, eh, deal with it next election,

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<v Speaker 1>or my kids will deal with it, or I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>What percentage of voters do you think, no, we're on

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<v Speaker 4>an unsustainable path.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I would think at this point half half to

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<v Speaker 1>don't they? I mean, you're really not paying attention.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The politicians don't really tell them, Mike. Most politicians, politicians

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<v Speaker 1>who lose in primaries tell them, but the politicians that

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<v Speaker 1>actually get elected aren't saying it out loud. Mike Johnson today,

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<v Speaker 1>Speaker of the House, came out and he had to

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<v Speaker 1>because Elon brought up in titlements yesterday. Mike Johnson had

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<v Speaker 1>to come out as a Speaker of the House today

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<v Speaker 1>say no, although no, there's continuing resolution to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>government open. We gotta let you know entitlements are not

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<v Speaker 1>in that at all, no entitlement reform. He had to

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<v Speaker 1>calm people down that we might be adults.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I think there you also have to factor in

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<v Speaker 4>the number of people who know that we're on an

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<v Speaker 4>unsustainable path, but are so because people believe what they

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<v Speaker 4>want to believe. They believe that it can be fixed

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<v Speaker 4>by tinkering around.

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<v Speaker 2>The edges of the budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's true. That's true of the people who think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a problem. A good chunk of them think

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as the billionaires have to pay their fair share.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, or we cut out the waste in medicare that'll

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<v Speaker 4>pay for it.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the other thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I would love to talk to Mike Johnson, either

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<v Speaker 4>you know, off the record, or maybe I strap him

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<v Speaker 4>to a chair and jab him with some sodium penthal

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<v Speaker 4>or something. But I wonder if I could get him

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<v Speaker 4>to say or if he believes in his heart Joseph,

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<v Speaker 4>the only way you can reform entitlements is to lie

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<v Speaker 4>about it. The only way you can get in power

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<v Speaker 4>and do what needs to be done to save this

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<v Speaker 4>country's fiscal heinee, is to say you're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>and that's the plan. If you were even close to honest,

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<v Speaker 4>you would never be in office.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I get that, but that implies they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do something about it, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's that's Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the being honest they are they are when

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<v Speaker 1>it is a cataclysm, right, I think that's the honesty

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<v Speaker 1>is like, look, we're the country is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with this until.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in trouble, actually in trouble. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, I want to I want to get this

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<v Speaker 1>on because I thought this was a pretty good Another

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<v Speaker 1>clip that I wish everybody in the United States would

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<v Speaker 1>hear Elon talking about this.

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<v Speaker 6>What actually happens here is you've got this this through

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<v Speaker 6>vast federal bureaucracy, and then you've got a very thin

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<v Speaker 6>layer on top of the of the politically appointed officials.

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<v Speaker 6>And what tests happen is that the bureaucracy, frankly is

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<v Speaker 6>in control and they largely ignore the politically appointed people.

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<v Speaker 2>Why should the bureaucracy. I'm sure you best have seen that.

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<v Speaker 11>I've lived with this twice. I worked for Reagan many

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<v Speaker 11>years ago, and I worked for Trump in the first term. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>it's like a permanent bureaucracy, I might it's a permanently

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<v Speaker 11>liberal bureaucracy, Yes, very much so. And it doesn't it's

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<v Speaker 11>it's not a bureaucracy that necessarily enforces or implements presidential policy.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, they tried their best to thwart presidential policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of what percentage of people know?

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<v Speaker 6>What?

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<v Speaker 1>How many people know that there is a permanent DC

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<v Speaker 1>that runs most of stuff and our whole now the

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<v Speaker 1>people have spoken and we're going to get our way.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing is just a tiny little veneer on top of

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<v Speaker 1>that permanent DC right, which is why I have always

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<v Speaker 1>been against the term deep state, because it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>become you know, conspiracy qan noni ish and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff some of those folks talk about is it

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<v Speaker 1>does happen, but in terms of the foreign policy establishment

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<v Speaker 1>and their priorities. But I think it's much more accurate

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<v Speaker 1>and just useful to describe it as the permanent bureaucracy.

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<v Speaker 4>The machinery of government is human beings who, unlike a machine,

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<v Speaker 4>can resist the people trying to run the machine.

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<v Speaker 2>And they do it over and over again.

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<v Speaker 4>The Elon Musk is an unelected are you effing kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the Democrats know it, though they have on their

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<v Speaker 4>side this massive, hundreds of thousands of people strong army

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<v Speaker 4>of we're not going to let the Conservatives change anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Every Secretary state runs into it, Every Secretary of Defense

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<v Speaker 4>runs into it. Once again, read the Robert Gates' book Duty.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the name of it was yeah, yeah, where

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<v Speaker 4>he is the secretary of Defense served under both parties,

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't get crap done because his own department would stein

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<v Speaker 4>his every attempt. And the idea that we will bring

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<v Speaker 4>on some sort of national disaster by trying to tame

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<v Speaker 4>that beast and reduce its bloat and wastefulness.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, how could you be in favor of it? What

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting period we're going through. The world's richest man

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<v Speaker 1>has become a political lightning rod trying to like overhaul

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<v Speaker 1>our government. Kind is just been an advisor and people

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<v Speaker 1>are attacking him.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 4>While the geopolitics, both trade and of warfare are changing fundamentally,

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<v Speaker 4>it looks like, yeah, spicy.

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<v Speaker 1>Times his seed oil the new Hitler, among other things

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<v Speaker 1>we could talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 12>The seed oil is one of the components of process foods,

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<v Speaker 12>and that is you know, all the science and that

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<v Speaker 12>algebraz has food the principal culprit in this extraordinary explosion

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<v Speaker 12>the epidemic we have of chronic disease.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, I suppose we should talk about seed

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<v Speaker 1>oil the Hitler of foods currently Wow, But that's a

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<v Speaker 1>discussion for another time.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps Next Hour.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't get Next Hour, grab the podcast, subscribe

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<v Speaker 4>to it Armstrong and Getty on demand. So I touched

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<v Speaker 4>on this way earlier in the show, but I thought

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<v Speaker 4>we could play a fun, fun game. This is part

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<v Speaker 4>of the lecture series at the University of California Berkeley

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<v Speaker 4>Social Sciences School, which are not sciences at all, including

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<v Speaker 4>Decolonizing Gender and sexualities, epistomes, subjects, rationalities, artivisms, practices, and movements.

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<v Speaker 1>You can take a class or go to a lecture

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<v Speaker 1>called Decolonizing Gender.

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell gets even better than that? And here's

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<v Speaker 2>the game we're gonna play. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're driving, we urge you to exercise caution, but

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<v Speaker 4>play along with us. Now, count on your fingers the

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<v Speaker 4>number of terms you either don't know what that means

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<v Speaker 4>or phrases that you can't imagine what they mean. And

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<v Speaker 4>we'll say play along at home, Katie. I would love

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<v Speaker 4>for you to do this if you have time. They

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<v Speaker 4>lecturers Theory of Water, hosted by Leanne Betsa Somaki Simpson.

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<v Speaker 4>I apologize Leanne if I have Missprenashim.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Theory of Water uses Mishi Sagi ignish Nabi consciousness to

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<v Speaker 4>dismantle and think beyond the present moment in the face

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<v Speaker 4>of ongoing genocides, extinct glaciers, police killings, children alone in

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<v Speaker 4>cages at borders, the resurgence of fascist states, and a

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<v Speaker 4>Dying Planet, Simpson asks what does it mean? As Rebecca

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<v Speaker 4>Belmore asks us in Wave Sound to listen to water?

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<v Speaker 2>What does it mean?

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<v Speaker 4>As Dion Brand writes through her diaspora consciousness and by

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<v Speaker 4>inventorying the quotidian disasters of our time in her epic.

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<v Speaker 2>Poem no or to quote, Believe in Water.

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<v Speaker 4>Using Nishnabi origin stories, poetry, and thinking alongside writers and artists,

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<v Speaker 4>these essays turn to water as a generative space for

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<v Speaker 4>world making against empire, within the network of life that

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<v Speaker 4>makes up this planet. One more sentence, theory of Water

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<v Speaker 4>immerses the reader into water as a liminal space resistant

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<v Speaker 4>to regiment, and considers future formations for life beyond our

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<v Speaker 4>current collective imaginings.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would have to be.

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<v Speaker 1>A circus freak with seven fingers on each hand to count.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have the slightest idea what you would hear

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<v Speaker 4>in that talk?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>And the sort of person that would gleefully go to

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<v Speaker 1>that There's no way they understand all that stuff, Katie.

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<v Speaker 2>I, dude, I have no idea what you just said,

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<v Speaker 2>hands toes, yeah, nostrils the.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's well, Jack to your point, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>part of the woke thing. Is they or their intellectual

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 4>overlords invent all of this vocabulary and then the kids

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<v Speaker 4>throw it around and angrily lecture you if you don't

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<v Speaker 4>understand the liminal space resistant to regiment. And but some

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<v Speaker 4>of some of the words, like equity to the untrained

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<v Speaker 4>ear sound like well, that sounds like equality. Our whole

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<v Speaker 4>country is based on that, So I guess I'm in

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<v Speaker 4>favor of this. It's how they win some of these

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<v Speaker 4>arguments just by perverting the language. But yeah, evidently like

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<v Speaker 4>whack a doodle poets are going to jabber about water.

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<v Speaker 4>That's as close as I can come to having any

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<v Speaker 4>idea what that event is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, knock that out of the park, as if

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<v Speaker 1>they had Kamala Harris teach that class.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that reminds me, do we have time for this?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we do, all right, brand new Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>Harris clip cool you know James, Next hour, James, He says,

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<v Speaker 4>the point of those things is that you don't know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they can kind of control the conversation. Yeah you can't.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you argue against water is a liminal space

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<v Speaker 4>resistant to regiment?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you gonna start com.

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