1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang on today's show. Now that it's official, 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: just what are the options for the Cardinals moving forward? 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Minus that are all pro pass Rusher and Chandler Jones 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: the other storyline this week, and we're all making it 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: a big deal. But is it a big deal for 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray returning to the State of Texas. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: We know this the state of the Cowboys defense is 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: not good. We'll examine the numbers. It's Cardinals Cover two, 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: Episode three thirty two, and it starts now. Welcome to 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig grigolew and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy Cardinals 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: dot com Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to the right throws 14 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: near sight of Fritz Bob. He's into the endzone for 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: the touchdowns. Craig Grilu and Mike Jarecki So I think, MJ. 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: We were all holding out hope, but the inevitable became truth. 17 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: Earlier today when head coach Cliff Kingsbury announced Chandler Jones 18 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: will be lost for the season. He'll undergo season ending 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: surgery on that biceps injury, and again, I think this 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: was what we all anticipated, although there was some talk 21 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: of maybe some non surgical options, at the end of 22 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: the day, this might be what is best not only 23 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: for Jones, but the team as well. Yeah, it's unfortunately 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: we've talked about, you know, what a huge loss he is, 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: and you know, curious to see and we'll get into 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: what some of the options are, but just not having 27 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: him on the field in the locker room now, I 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: suspect once the surgery and he's able to start recovery, 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: not so much we have He'll be around the team 30 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: and that's that's going to be important. But at the 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: same time, I mean, I thought it was wishful thinking. 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: I mean, not to get too technical. It could be 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: a slight terror, partial tearror and then a torm tear 34 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: and then you look at you know, he's going to 35 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: the final year of his contract, so there's a lot 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: of things that place here. But obviously, if he had 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity to put a harness on there and be 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: on the field, I think that would have been the case. 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 1: He's about winning and obviously playing well to he can 40 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: consider for the Pro Football Hall of Fame down the road. 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: This puts a little setback there, but he'll be ready 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: to go next year. Yeah, that's the good news. Kingsbury 43 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: put a three to four month timetable on the recovery 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: and you're looking at January February, so a full off season. 45 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: Hopefully we have a normal off season, but at least 46 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: a full off season for him to kind of rehab 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: and get ready for that last year in which he's 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: under contract. So that is the good news. Of course, 49 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: life in the National Football League moves on. What do 50 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals do now? And I think this is something 51 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: we'll also touch on tomorrow when Vance Joseph meets with 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: the media, but just you and I going back and forth, 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: and I know we kind of touched on it earlier 54 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: in the week as well. But there is some good news. 55 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: Davon Knard during the open portion of practice spotted, so 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: that is excellent news. We'll see how that week progresses 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: for him on whether he'll be available on Monday night. 58 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: Remember he's missed the last two weeks with a calf injury. 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: And then you just look internally because right now MJ 60 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: they haven't brought anyone in, they haven't signed anyone in 61 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: the practice squad, so it would appear, at least for 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: this week, it's going to be internal candidates as opposed 63 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: to external candidates. It's correct. And you know, you started 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: looking at it and I didn't notice Canard out there. 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: You know the fact that they brought him on the trip. 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: He actually tweeted out on Sunday night that he's getting closer. 67 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: But just like a high ankle sprain, possibly a hamstringer 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: or a growing really there's no time frame and it's 69 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: really not about pain tolerance. It's about being able to 70 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: go out there and play to your capability, and you 71 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: know you don't want to hurt your team. So I'd 72 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: be curious to see how he looks now. There is 73 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: one extra day here, but that calf muscle, that calf 74 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: injury that can slow somebody down. So the good news 75 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: is he is making progress and they can definitely use 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: him on Monday night. Absolutely. Then you look at Hassan Reddick, 77 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: Kylie Fitz, Dennis Gardeck and maybe even Isaiah Simmons. As 78 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: head coach Cliff Kingsbury said, quote the guys we've seen 79 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: out there. We'll just see out there more end quote. 80 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: Simmons is certainly an interesting option. We'll see if that 81 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: is indeed the truth. But of course, when you're an 82 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: outside linebacker just rushing the quarterback, it's okay, here's my spot, 83 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: there's the quarterback. What's the quickest point between two places 84 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: a straight line? So maybe we see some Simmons at 85 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: outside linebacker. And then the other option, which I think 86 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: is interesting, Zach Allen. Yes, he's a defensive lineman, but 87 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: if he plays d end and really spreads himself out, 88 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: he might be an option as well, just to get 89 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: some pressure on the edge, and of course Jordan Phillips 90 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: and Corey Peters manning in the middle to get some 91 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: pressure up front. Yeah. I like the way you're thinking there. Yeah, 92 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: so Reddick, you know, assume he's your number one starter 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: along with kenn Art if active, and then he's throwing 94 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: Kylie Fitz. Now, I didn't see him out there doing 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: the open portion, but it's still early in the week. 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: On The Cardinals will practice on Saturday, basically probably a 97 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: light walk through, and then they'll travel on Sunday. Dennis 98 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Gardeck didn't see him out there doing the open portion. 99 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: But again it's early in the week to get an 100 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: extra day, and then he's throw Isaiah Simmons in there, 101 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: and to me, I've been, you know, pounding the drum. 102 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: He needs more reps. I'm not saying going for thirteen 103 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: to forty, but I keep him in the front seven. 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm concerned about his strength. Can he 105 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: shed a block? But I do like his athleticism and 106 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: his upside and his speed. He could be really good 107 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: in the flat on a running back, So I want 108 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: to leave him closer to the line of scrimmage. And 109 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: then you just look at it's gonna be. It's really 110 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: gonna be committee in rotation, and you're gonna have had 111 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, with Gardick did was remarkable and ten snaps, 112 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: so you know they're gonna have fresh players. Chandler Jones 113 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: was playing every single snap, So this is gonna be 114 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: by committee and you know, we'll see what they end 115 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: up at the end of the year. But right now, 116 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: other guys have chipped in and we were hoping, you know, 117 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: another player or two would get eight and a half 118 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: to ten sacks where you didn't have one guy. So 119 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: you know, JJ Watt's gone down a lot of good 120 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: pass rutchers have gone down. Now it's you know, opportunities 121 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: for some of these guys that are rotation players, and 122 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: really that's all you can ask for at this point. 123 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: The Zach Allen option, he certainly has the size, it's 124 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: does he have the get off as far as the 125 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage is concerned to make an impact. Although 126 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: I did notice a couple of snaps late in that 127 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: contest on Sunday against the Jets without Jones that Zach 128 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: Allen was and a three point stance, but he was 129 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: further away from the football. So we'll have to see 130 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: at how defensive coordinat advanced Joseph mixes and matches to 131 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: try to get some pressure on Andy Dalton, who will 132 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: be our starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, and 133 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: don't forget they'd like to play. You know, it seems 134 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: like one week where Chard Lawrence is getting the reps 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: and then you look at Lucky Foe too, he's getting 136 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: the reps, and then Blackson and you know, so they've 137 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: got a good rotation. There doesn't appear that Peters is playing, 138 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, seventy two percent of the snaps. But I 139 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: think Zach Allen can also stand up. I mean he's 140 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: not two nineties, he's over three hundred pounds, and you know, 141 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals wanted him to get stronger and add more weight. 142 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: And when you're bringing Phillips, he's all of a sudden, 143 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: your left defensive end. But again, it seems like his 144 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: snapcount is going up. I actually had more in Peters 145 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: in the last game. So, and he's younger, and you 146 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: know he's a guy that obviously his physicality doesn't take 147 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: plays off, not that Corey does, but you're going to 148 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: get a great effort from Zach Allen. It could just 149 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: be a bulrush guardic where it can you know, maybe 150 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: it's a play here and there. So I like what 151 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: you're thinking there, and I think that would be a 152 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: viable option. The other viable option perhaps is something that 153 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: I hadn't really thought about, but DeAndre Hopkins brought it 154 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: up earlier today. Quote the offense has to step it 155 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: up end Quote you just score a lot of points 156 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: MG and you don't have to worry about it defensively. Now, 157 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit hyperbole, but to his point, yes, 158 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: if you're scoring thirty five forty points, maybe you don't 159 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: need the defense to be as perfect. You don't need 160 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: a number of takeaways, a number of stops, maybe just 161 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: a couple will do. So it sounds like within the 162 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: offensive room without it being said, they're taking this loss 163 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: on their shoulders as well, say hey, we need to 164 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: do better. And that's something we've heard from week one 165 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: to now that the offense has yet to get into rhythm, 166 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: get into high gear like they think they're capable of. 167 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: So if you just score some more points, then of 168 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: course as a defense, you're automatically going to make the 169 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: opponent one dimensional as far as the other team and 170 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: they'll have to force to drop back more and make 171 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: that easier for the defense to rush the quarterback. Sounds 172 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: like Hopkins was listening to Carts Cover two in training camp. 173 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: You know, they have a lot of downtime there and 174 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: of course it's available twenty four to seven. Didn't we 175 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: talk about that going into the season where the Cardinals 176 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: offense was gonna have to carry their water And my 177 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: concern was or at least fair you know, razor not 178 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: a red flag and an antenna is they had so 179 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: many new starters, you know, on that front and at 180 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: front seven I mean at times there's four guys, five 181 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: guys and then you know, you throw in Drake ker 182 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: Patrick and you know, so I thought it would take 183 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: time there. I couldn't agree more. And that's nice that 184 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: they would notice that and recognize that. And again they're 185 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: gonna do what they gotta do. But I think they realize, hey, 186 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: if we can score some points right here, like if 187 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: you go to if you go to Big Dan, get 188 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: a lead like ten to fourteen, nothing, what are they 189 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: going to do it? They can't run Elliott and then 190 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that's going to play in the 191 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: hands of guys that are looking to get sacks and turnovers. 192 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna play right into that. So I 193 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: like the fact that you know, Hop said he thought 194 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: about that, and they haven't been told that. But just 195 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: you know, two and two is four here. You don't 196 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: have Chandler Jones, so your defense is probably going to 197 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: be on the field a little bit more. Offensively, they 198 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: feel like they found something in the passing game. Now 199 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: it's only one game, yes, against the Jets, and I 200 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: think they showed flashes that this offense is clicking in 201 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: certain areas, not for four quarters, but in certain areas. 202 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: Make no mistake, the loss of Chandler Jones is big. 203 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: It's a huge blow to this defense, even though production wise, 204 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: stat wise, he only had the one sack. But as 205 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: we've chronicled here, it's the trickle down. What does he 206 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: do that takes the attention away from someone else to 207 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: have a free er shot or less obstacles in the 208 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: way of their shot at the quarterback? So be interesting 209 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: to see what defensive coordinator Vans Joseph has to say tomorrow, 210 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: and of course we'll cover it right here on Cardinals 211 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona 212 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals burd Gang. Remember to update to the latest version 213 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features an 214 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: all new redesign homescreen experience. Visit acy Cardinals dot com 215 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: slash app for more. All Right, so, the Chandler Jones 216 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: storyline is one that we were not expecting to have 217 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: this week. What we knew we were going to have 218 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: this week is a homecoming, not only for the head coach, 219 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback, couple of players as well, But the big 220 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: one is Kyler Murray going back to his home state 221 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: of Texas. Where he in a word, phenomenal as a 222 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: high school football player at Alan High School and then 223 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: going on to Texas A and M and into Oklahoma, 224 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: And as he said earlier today, it all began when 225 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: he was playing peewee football in which people kind of 226 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: started to notice him and there were fans watching his game. 227 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: So as big of a contest as this is, and 228 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: let's make no mistake about it, it gets no bigger 229 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: than AT and T Stadium, no bigger than the Dallas Cowboys, 230 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: and no bigger than Monday Night Football. Yeah, this is 231 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: old hat for Kyler Murray. Yeah, I mean you go 232 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: back to his high school days at Alan High School, 233 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: he was forty three and oh state championships, and you 234 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: know he's had the opportunity to play there now. According 235 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: to stat whiz Mike Helm from the Yearzelda Cardinals, Murray 236 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: was six and oh he threw for twenty two hundred 237 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: yards twenty four touchdowns nineteen rushing touchdowns. He won three 238 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: state championship games and the Big twelve title game at 239 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium. So and then you throw in, 240 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: we'll focus on Murray right now because Hopkins has been 241 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: successful there also, But it's just amazing. It's a full circle, 242 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, and he's only in his second year. And 243 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: of course you played the Cowboys depending on where you finish, 244 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, likely every four years, you see, it's every 245 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: eight years home and away. So that this this really 246 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: worked out for him. And you know, I know, I 247 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of guys are downplaying it. It's just 248 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: another game, and I think you have to approach that. 249 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: But it's Monday night football, as you mentioned the Sagarry Dome, 250 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: and you know they're not gonna have one hundred thousand 251 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: fans there, but that place is like a nightclub. I 252 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: mean players start watching the game on the JumboTron. I 253 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: mean it goes from like the twenty to the twenty 254 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: yard line. I've been there. Usually they have a you 255 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: know in the both of the end zones where you 256 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: pay fifty dollars and there's like a you know, a 257 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: little bar there, bar there, and people just drink and 258 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: they watched the game from there. But and then then 259 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: they got you know, go go dancers on the speakers. 260 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a nightclub and it's hard not to 261 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: just it's just really a football game. Now when the 262 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: game starts and I think the butterflies, you know where 263 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: often that maybe that first or second possession, depending on 264 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: what side of the ball you play. It is the 265 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: NFL and it's Monday Night football, but it's just there's 266 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: just more glitz and glamor. I mean, they build us 267 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: up for a reason. There's going to be about twenty 268 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: to twenty five thousand fans in attendance at least that's 269 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: what's expected come Monday nights. And it's relatively speaking. When 270 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: you look at the crowds that Murray has played in 271 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: front of, either at Oklahoma or Alan High School, that 272 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: doesn't even come close. I mean that Allen High School 273 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: stadium I think seats thirty to thirty five thousand. It 274 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: was his first year there that that building opened up. 275 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: He never lost there, has never lost at at and 276 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: T Stadium. Kingsbury can't say the same thing as a 277 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: head coach at Texas Tech. In fact, his last game 278 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: at Texas Tech when he lost to Baylor, that game 279 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: was at at and T Stadium. So a little bit 280 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: different as far as the experiences with Cliff and Kyler. 281 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Yet I'll say this, I'll give Murray credit. Sometimes he 282 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: doesn't let people into his inner thoughts, if you will. 283 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: He was a lot more open and honest about what 284 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: this game means to him and to his family. But 285 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: this is not going to be a big game or 286 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: any bigger of a game than he's ever played in 287 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: his life, because I can make a case that have 288 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: been bigger games, bigger stages, more pressure. Yet this is 289 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: the National Football League. It's the highest game you can play. 290 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: And as he says, quote, I obviously have to stay composed, 291 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: play my game, play our game, execute at a high 292 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: level in order to win end quote. So he's taken 293 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: the right measure, making the right message, and now he's 294 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: just got to go out and play, as he said, 295 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: his game. Yeah, I mean, I mean, like I said, 296 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: he's the less guy worried about. And you know, the 297 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: fact is that, you know, I don't even know if 298 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: Larry fitz Cheryls played that much in that stadium. Probably not, 299 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: just because you know, they had the old statum in 300 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: the new stadium. And again, unless you finish in the 301 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: same place or you're facing that division that year. No, 302 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: I like the fact that, you know, I really believe 303 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: this is going to be a shootout. It's gonna remind 304 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: them as a Big twelve football where what they say 305 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: they don't play a lot of defense. It's just Dallas 306 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: is real and we're gonna get into that. And then 307 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: you know the Cardinals really they've left some points on 308 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: the field and it wouldn't surprise me if they're in 309 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: the thirty fives and Dallas I mean, and we'll talk 310 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: about their offense tomorrow. Man, they got some weapons. Andy 311 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: Dalton did not have those weapons last year when he 312 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: played the Cardinals. I mean he had Tyler Boyd and 313 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. I mean, they have talent. Now again, we'll 314 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: talk about them tomorrow, but this is going to kind 315 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: of remind me of a Big twelve game. I mean, 316 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: I know it's the NFL and it could come down 317 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: to who has the last or you know, you're gonna 318 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: have to You're gonna have to score points in this game. 319 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be like fifteen to five 320 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: or excusing like fifteen to ten. Well, the one Big 321 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: twelve game that he started and played in talking about 322 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: Kyle the Murray at AT and T Stadium was the 323 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: Big twelve Championship game against Texas on December first, twenty eighteen, 324 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy nine passing yards and three touchdowns 325 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: plus thirty nine rushing yards as Oklahoma one thirty nine 326 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: to twenty one. Murray did acknowledge that he will take 327 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: a moment to enjoy, but then added quote, I know 328 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: what's at stake. We're playing to win, and that's the 329 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: end goal. This isn't about me going home. This is 330 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: about us playing the Cowboys, a good football team. Then 331 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: he added this quote, to enjoy it. You got to 332 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: win end quote. And I think that speaks volumes right there, 333 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter. You walk off that field Monday nights, 334 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: and you want to be able to hold your head 335 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: up high coming off a win, whether that's three nothing 336 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: or thirty to twenty nine. If you go into Texas 337 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: perform well, this Cardinals team is going to be the 338 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: talk across not only locally but nationally on Tuesday morning. Yeah, 339 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: and really it's the next game. So it's the biggest game. 340 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: It's the next game. And Murray mentioned, you know, in 341 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: a couple of guys because of COVID normally, you know, 342 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure his parents have traveled. I know they were 343 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: traveling last year. You know, he has them when he's 344 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: when he's in town for home games. But with covid 345 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: usually when you go in and sometimes you have aunts 346 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: and uncles and cousins and they all want tickets. But 347 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: the night before, like you can go to a banquet hall, 348 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: you can go to a restaurant and get a private 349 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: room and you just mingle and make sure you get 350 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: back to the hotel in time, and you make sure 351 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: you don't obviously the food you're eating's not going to 352 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: affect you the next day that that's all out the window. 353 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: So it's different because the Cardinals aren't going on a Sunday. 354 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: You know, they'll have their team meal, probably on a 355 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: plane the meeting, and it's gonna be a long day 356 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: on Monday, just because you're waiting around. A lot of 357 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: players don't like that. They want to play right away. 358 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: But but to go back there, it's it's unfortunate because 359 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: that's when you get a chance to your family. You 360 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: can kind of mingle for an hour or two because 361 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: you just can't do it during the season unless they 362 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: come visit you and they want you to focus on 363 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: your job. So it's a lot different. I think if 364 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: we didn't have covid UM, I think they he probably 365 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: would have got a chance to see some family members. Yeah, 366 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot less distractions for business trip. 367 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: This is really it's really a bit a business trip. 368 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: You just don't have time to do that stuff anymore, 369 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: or the protocols don't allow it. Yeah, you fly in, 370 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: go to the hotel, stay in the hotel, go to 371 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: the game, go to the airport, and then you head 372 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: back home. And as you said it, they're not allowed 373 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: to do anything outside the hotel, so you're not gonna 374 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: be able to mingle or thief family or friends. There. 375 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: I be a couple of family and friends and attendance. 376 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins was hoping to see some cardinal jerseys and 377 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: some number ten jerseys and the stands as well, being 378 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: from that area. Yet at the same time, it is 379 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: going to be a lot less distracting, I think, And 380 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Yet you said it, that's the 381 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: one player, Kyler Murray, that I am not worried about 382 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: one bit about going into at and T Stadium. Maybe 383 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: someone else, a younger player. You walk in, see the 384 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: huge scoreboard, see the enormous arena in what building is, 385 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you kind of lose sight 386 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: of what you're were there to do. Yes, it's a 387 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: hundred yards. When the game kicks off, it should be 388 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: just another football game. It's leading up to it, and 389 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: then the waiting around on Monday for kickoff, because that's 390 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: a long wait, and sometimes that's the worst as far 391 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: as just the anticipation of something happening. You can't tell 392 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: me any Isabella is not going to be you know, 393 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: what do they say? It's America's team? I mean, and 394 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: they never won a Super Bowl since the eighties, right 395 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: the late eighties. I mean, how do you like I said, 396 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: it's one hundred thousand state. I mean, it's if it's 397 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people. And when you go in there, 398 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: you go into Arlington and right across is the baseball field. 399 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: It's just fascinating. So I mean, I would go out 400 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: there for pregame warhops. I would definitely. If he's going 401 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: to be the point return, I would make sure the 402 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: angles because of a lighting and the and the jumbo tron, 403 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: I gotta think he But the game starts, so you 404 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: just you just hope the guy doesn't get caught up 405 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: in the moment during the game like that. After the 406 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: first couple of possessions. It's football. This is what you do, 407 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: this is what you practice for. But I don't know 408 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: how guys can't. You know, Mason Cole said he was 409 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: excited to go to Tampa because that's where he was from, 410 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, when he went back. I just think some 411 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: guys is going to be a little bit more difficult. 412 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: I know, it's football and they've done it their whole life, 413 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: but it's just glitz and glamour. I think it's not 414 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: like Vegas. You've been there here, you gotta get invited there. 415 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: And you mentioned Andy Isabella. How about a Dennis Gardeck, 416 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: a Chase Edmonds. Guys from smaller schools in which they're 417 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: playing in front of several thousand, and now all of 418 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got a building that holds one hundred thousand. 419 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: There only will be about twenty to twenty five of 420 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: actual people in the seats, But just the enormity of 421 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: the whole thing and this that building, and of course 422 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: the Star and the Dallas Cowboys America's team. They're always 423 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: on television, even though they haven't done much playoff wise, 424 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: postseason wise. It is the team in the National Football League. Yeah, 425 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, I know a lot of 426 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: people maybe don't see IDA and Jerry Jones. I think 427 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: he's great for the league. I mean, Al Davis is 428 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: great for the league. You need some guys. I'm not 429 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: saying their rogue, but they're gonna give either pain unions 430 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft. They've done a ton 431 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to a TV contracts of late Pat 432 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: Bowland and in the NFL, you know, they're got to 433 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: give them credit. The fact that they're moving games around 434 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: but they're still able to play games and the protocols 435 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: getting tested every day. They want this to work. But 436 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: I think Jerry Jones is good for the NFL. I 437 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: really do. Bird Gang. Subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcasts on 438 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcast, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen to 439 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: your favorite shows on the go like Cardinals Underground, The 440 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, The Cardinals Red Cea Report, and of 441 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: course this show Cardinals Cover Two. Visit as Cardinals dot 442 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: Com Slash podcasts for more information. Week six, Monday Night 443 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: Football five fifteen is the kickoff Arizona Time Cowboys and 444 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals from AT and T Stadium. As you said, MJ 445 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: should be a shootout at least as you look at 446 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: this on paper, because on paper and not even on 447 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: paper on the football field. Through the first five games, 448 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense is putting up numbers that are historical, 449 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: but in the opposite direction, in the wrong direction. They've 450 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: allowed thirty points and each of the past four games 451 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: they ranked thirty second and points allowed thirty six. They 452 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: are averaging for opposing teams, and that you don't expect 453 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys defense. No, and just like any other team, 454 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: they didn't hit with some injuries, but you know, they 455 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: lose Gerald McCoy early. It was a devastating injury in 456 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: training camp, and you know they bring in Mike Nolan. 457 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: You know, Ron Marinelli was there for a while and 458 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: then Nolan. The first couple of games he was up 459 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: in the booth and now he's on the sideline. So 460 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: they're trying to find some kind of chemistry there. They 461 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: haven't been tackling well. But these numbers. You normally don't 462 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: see these numbers in the NFC's just because usually it's 463 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: it's a physical division. You know, the quarterback play could 464 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: be up and down, but they rely on the running 465 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 1: game they're relying on, you know, making stops and just 466 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: being physical, and it does in farness of Dallas. They've 467 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: had some injuries on the offensive lying where they paid 468 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: a ton of money to those guys. But we're talking 469 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: to the defense today. Yeah, I'm I'm a little surprised. 470 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: But when you watch them play, it's almost like we're 471 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: going to try to outscore you. And that's been the case. 472 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: They fell behind a lot of times in each game. 473 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: And let's be quite frank here. I mean, the Giants 474 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: could have won that game last week. And the Giants 475 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: they average, they're they're not very good offensively now loose 476 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: Aquon Barkley and then Daniel Jones is kind of going 477 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: learning a new system, and or you know, Jason Garrett. 478 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: They put up twenty four points in that game. So 479 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: that's alarming. Just if you're a Cowboys fan going, you know, 480 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: they couldn't even shut down this team, and that team 481 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: is still win this like the New York Jets or 482 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: combined their own ten. Well, you can make a case 483 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys should be going five. I mean, they're 484 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: two wins were by field goals. Otherwise, if it goes 485 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: the other way, this team is winless and now on 486 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: the national stage of Monday Night Football, that becomes the conversation. 487 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: It's still a conversation because it's always a conversation with 488 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But in other words, as far as the 489 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: numbers are concerned, twenty seventh in total yards, twenty eighth 490 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: against the run, twentieth against the paths. They are not 491 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: good on third down. They haven't stopped anyone on fourth down. 492 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: They allow sixty five percent inside the red zone. Teams 493 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: are scoring touchdowns on thirteen twenty trips inside the twenty 494 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: yard line. They don't really get after the quarterback a lot. 495 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: They only have one interception and that was by cornerback 496 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: Shodobe a Woozy who's currently on injured reserve with a 497 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: hamstring injury. He is eligible to return this week, we'll 498 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: see if that happens. Also able to return as linebacker 499 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: Layton vander esh who was on there with a collarbone injury. 500 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: So some of the bigger names, some of the more 501 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: talented players potentially coming back this week, which certainly would 502 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: help the Cowboys. At the same time, you're on IR 503 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: for several weeks, are you in game shape? How many 504 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: snaps can you play. So that's something to pay attention 505 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: to with those two players, in particular if they are 506 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: able to come back off injury reserve this week. These 507 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: rankings kind of remind me of twenty eighteen with the Cardinals. 508 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, not to be tried. I'm just saying, like, 509 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: when you're twenty nine and thirty and thirty one and 510 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: twenty eight across the board, that's not right. I mean, 511 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: you would think they would focus on one area and 512 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe this is the get right game to 513 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: get that running game coin as you mentioned their twenty 514 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: eight given up one hundred and fifty six years. I'm 515 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: surprised they're only twentieth in passing. I guess teams are 516 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: getting leads maybe in the second half, and they're trying 517 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: to run the ball and not throw it down the field. 518 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: They're actually right in the same boat as the Cardinals. 519 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know if they have an interception this year. 520 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: The Cardinals obviously have won, so but yeah, first downs, 521 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's just you just look at it and go. 522 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: They would have to force turnovers, They would have to 523 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: get a special team's touchdown to kind of even it out. 524 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: Unless their offense is just is rolling and they have 525 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: the talent to do it. I just I just wonder 526 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: if they're going to try to run the ball, And 527 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: again we'll get into that tomorrow. I would hope the 528 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals decide to run the ball a little bit. I mean, 529 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say three hundred and seven yards like the 530 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 1: Browns did a couple of weeks back, and the Giants 531 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: only manage eighty nine yards on the ground. But if 532 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: you look at what the Cardinals have done rushing wise, 533 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: and then the issues the Cowboys have had stopping the run, 534 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: this is where not only a Kenyan Drake or Chase 535 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: Evans might be able to get going, but also Kyle 536 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: the Murray, and of course under the bright lights, maybe 537 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: Murray showcases himself a little bit more. That's the big 538 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: fear and all of this does Murray tried to do 539 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: too much. But if you stay within the offense and 540 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: stay within the game plan, then I think this is 541 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: once again a game on paper that the Cardinals should 542 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: be able to come out on top. Yeah, it seemed 543 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: like last year Murray was you know, I think he 544 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if he felt the pressure, but we 545 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: all knew there's a ton of pressure on him, Plus 546 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: is that offense going to work, And a lot of 547 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: times he tried to make plays on his own, which 548 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to bring grudge the guy. That's what 549 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: makes them great, that's what makes him a fierce competitor. 550 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: But I think based on the offseason and him trusting 551 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: what they're doing offensively, I think he wants to get 552 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: more guys involved, more engaged, and so they don't. Now 553 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: we know they're going to throw the ball to Hopkins, 554 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: they're going to run the ball with Drake and Edmonds, 555 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: and hopefully Amen gets more opportunities. But I think he's 556 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: willing to kind of drive a car, you know what 557 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean. He's got that Rolls Royce out there, and 558 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 1: he's got the players around it, and you look at 559 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: the offensive line. So I think more he's more about 560 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: getting everyone involved because he only can feed so many guys. 561 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: But when you're throwing the ball thirty seven times or 562 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: thirty or thirty eight times, there's enough to go around well. 563 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: And if he's throwing the ball to a DeAndre Hopkins 564 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: or a Larry Fitzgerald, guys who are used to the spotlight, 565 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: especially on Monday Night football. You alluded to it earlier 566 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: in the show, Hopkins seven hundred receiving yards, four touchdown catches, 567 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: and three one hundred yard performances playing on Monday nights. 568 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: And then you look at what fitz has done his 569 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: last Monday Night appearance back in twenty seventeen against the Cowboys. 570 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Thirteen receptions, one hundred and forty nine yards and a touchdown. 571 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: So we could see video game numbers, if you will, 572 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: from the Cardinals on offense, and let's hope that's the case, 573 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: and hopefully the defense gets a stop or two to 574 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: where it becomes a little bit more comfortable for the visitors, 575 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: especially late in the contest. But perhaps if last week 576 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: was a get right game, then this week against this 577 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense becomes, how about we get better or get 578 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: on track as far as the offense is concerned, Yeah, 579 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: put some goom film out there for the Seahawks. You 580 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: know they're sitting back, they got a bye week, and 581 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: then Cardinals will face them. Larry is four receptions away 582 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: from fourteen thousand. That would put him obviously, you know 583 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: it's not going to catch Jerry Rice, but he would 584 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: be the only second wide receiver in NFL history to 585 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: achieve that and that could be one of those situations 586 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: where they take the ball out stop the game if 587 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: you will, and let Fitz have his moment. He won't 588 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: want that. It could be one of those plays where 589 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: they need to get a first down and the clock 590 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: is ticket and he's going to take the ball and 591 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: put in the center of the field. Yeah, I mean, 592 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's only it's only going to be done 593 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: the second time. Now, Hopkins could be that guy, you know, 594 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: eight years from now if he plays that long. But yeah, 595 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: and again, this is another milestone that I think Larry appreciates, 596 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: I really do. It's it's not but he wants to win. 597 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: If he catches three balls, it happens in the next game, 598 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: so be it. He's happy with that. But it's just 599 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: another milestone, you know, to where you know, we look 600 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: at numbers, you know, twelve, fourteen hundred, and that would 601 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: put him in a league class. Again on the one 602 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: other guy in NFL history has more, and that's Cherry Rice. Well, 603 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: and you know that Fits is well aware of how 604 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: many catches to reach that milestone. So as soon as 605 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: he catches that football, depending on where they are in 606 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: the game, if he has to hand it to the 607 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: officials so they can spot it. He's making that catch. 608 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: The whistle is going to blow, and he's going to 609 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: throw it to the sideline. We've seen that before. Even 610 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: though it doesn't like talking about it or acknowledging it. 611 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: In the back of his head, he's got that counter 612 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: ticking down. Oh wait, you know what, this is my ball? 613 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: Ride here, and he'll throw it so he can preserve 614 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: it later on. Well, I've already reminded him. I don't 615 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: think he needed any remind him, I know, but I 616 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: just you know, I just you know, four away because 617 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: we can go ahead of conversation. Or maybe he was 618 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: when he wasn't getting targeted at ten and I thought, oh, 619 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: this can happen. And then last week I was pounding 620 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: that drum. He's never scored a regular season touchdown against 621 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: the Jets, let alone in the postseason obviously, and and 622 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: that didn't happen. So this is the next benchmark when 623 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: it comes to a milestone. Well, we'll see. But maybe 624 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team, they don't pass the ball and they 625 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: just run it down the Cowboys throats and you're looking 626 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: at Kyler Murray, You're look maybe you're looking at three 627 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: guys with over one hundred yards rushing, because that's what 628 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: would have happened a couple of weeks ago. But Cleveland 629 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: Browns with three o nine, you're divided by three players, 630 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, instead of this passing highlights 631 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: that we would all anticipate to see on Monday Night football, 632 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: it becomes a ground and pound game for the Arizona Cardinals. Well, 633 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: that's usually what happens. You know. We talk about offense, offense, 634 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: and we know the numbers are up, and then it's 635 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: I just hope we're not looking at a seven sixth 636 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: game like they had against the Jets. Please, if they 637 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: rushed for three hundred yards, that tells me they're probably winning, 638 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: and that's great. I want to see some balls, you know, 639 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: going around a little bit. I want to see them 640 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: open up this offense, but be within the frame of 641 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: the offense. Don't be reckless. It was interesting to hear 642 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: Mason Cole when asked about the Cowboys defense and how 643 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: many points they are allowing, and you get the sense 644 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: that whether it was Sean Coogler and a meeting room 645 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: or Cliff Kingsbury and a team meeting room, that it 646 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: was mentioned that this Cowboys defense, as Mason Cole said, quote, 647 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 1: this defense has eight former Pro bowlers on it. They 648 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: have that ability. We just haven't seen it so far 649 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: this season. But you look at them a DeMarcus Lawrence 650 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: and Alden Smith, Darryl Worley. They have talent. Of course, 651 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: some of that talent is also on the sidelines right now, 652 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: Layton Vander esh Sean Lee. But there are guys that 653 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: if you give this team room or give them some confidence, 654 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: especially late. It's no different than the conversation we had 655 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: a week go leading into the Jets contest. Maybe it 656 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: takes them that this is the week because I'm sure 657 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: they're talking about it just as much as we are. 658 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: The bright lights. The spotlight. Lets us as a defense 659 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: make a play. Yeah, and don't forget about Alden Smith. 660 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy that you know, obviously he's 661 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: had some trouble, but he finally back in the league. 662 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: And they have Trayvon Diggs. He's a he's a rookie 663 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: obviously the brother of Stefan Diggs, and you know he 664 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 1: cares to see if they get one of their corners back. 665 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: He's right now, as you pointed out, a little bit earlier. Um, 666 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: woozy woozy. Yeah, I liked him coming out. And he's tall, 667 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: He's a tall corner. And again it's you know, I 668 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: don't know if Dallas once again the Cardinals will will 669 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: play a four to three defense. Seems like they play 670 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: four three defense all year when I think the numbers 671 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: are sixteen teams to play three four or sixteen teams 672 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: to play a four to three and we know that 673 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: they up five guys usually straight up front their hand 674 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: they're dirt, and then two linebackers. So it could be 675 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: a little misleading. But you know, if you're if you're 676 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan once again, you've got to pick your poison. 677 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: Do you try to keep Kyler Murray in the pocket, 678 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: Because now all of a sudden, if they're going to 679 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: roll a cover John Hopkins, Fitzgerald, Kirk Isabella, possibly Arnold Edmunds, 680 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: you wonder how they're going to approach this because I 681 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I have to look at their their teams 682 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: they've played. I mean, I mean, they're going against one 683 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: of the most dynamic quarterbacks when it comes to rushing 684 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: the football. This is not going against Carson Wentz and 685 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. This is totally different here. It's probably like 686 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: them going against their quarterback in practice, but not the speed. Yeah, 687 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: there is certainly a similarity with Dak Prescott, but the 688 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: elusiveness and how much Murray runs versusus Prescott. Of course, 689 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: we're not gonna be a to be able to see 690 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: that matchup this week, which is very unfortunate. But you 691 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: bring up a good point as far as how familiar 692 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense is when you have a true dual 693 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: threat at quarterback. Yes, he wants to stay in the 694 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: pocket and throw the football, but if you've given him 695 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: an open rushing lane or you leave that middle of 696 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: the field open, And he saw it once in that 697 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: Jets game where he just ran straight ahead for sixteen 698 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: yards because there was no one in the middle. Now, 699 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: how do you adjust? And then does Murray adjust and 700 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: all of a sudden there becomes more single coverage with 701 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, if you 702 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: want to go back, I think Phil Snow did a 703 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: really good job on Murray. Whether it was Jeremy Chanton 704 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: or you know, it could have been one of the 705 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: linebackers or safety in the Lions game, and you know, 706 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: they do have some guys that you know, Sean Lee 707 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: is if he was in there, I think he'd be 708 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: really good at in the run game because he's guys 709 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: felt with some injuries in his career. Because he's not afraid. 710 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: He'll tackle with his upper body, which you know is 711 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: obviously he's out right now for different reasons. But I 712 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 1: think they would support more in the run game there. 713 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to pick their poison because if 714 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna rush for and drop seven, he's not going 715 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: to force it. And you know, you know how I 716 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: talked to you last week or last night, Roy Green, 717 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: Roy checked in and he says, Murray, this is this 718 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: is Roy. He said, Murray is so accurate the receivers, 719 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: you mean, he said, they have to know when he's 720 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: throwing to him. They got to catch the ball. Now. 721 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: He didn't make a comment to me that he doesn't 722 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals receivers are getting separation. I trust Roy, 723 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: and he thinks Hopkins is not getting a lot of separation. 724 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: He thinks he's a great route runner, good catch radius. 725 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: But that's interesting comes from you know, a guy that 726 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 1: I truly respect when it comes to the game all time. 727 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: Cardinal favorite Ring of Honor guy. But yeah, it was 728 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: interesting just to hit his thoughts because we miss him, 729 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, doing the REDC Report and some of the 730 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: postgame stuff. But that's not I'm gonna look for. But 731 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: he said, Kyle has been very accurate, and I think 732 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: last week probably is you know, it's what have you 733 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: done for me lately? We know how accurately was on 734 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: the thirty seven ball in the forty five yard, but 735 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: really the intermedia or else the money zone. I went 736 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: back and looked the closest comparison I could find MJ 737 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 1: with respect to who the Cowboys have faced this season, 738 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, although he only rushed it six times for 739 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: twenty two yards, passed for three fifteen and five touchdowns 740 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: by god, So this is I think a little bit different, 741 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: but that's as close. Otherwise you're looking at a Baker 742 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: Mayfield Jared Goff. So there's really no one and I 743 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: don't even know if there's any one in the league 744 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: by like a Kyler Murray. So it is going to 745 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: be that chess match. What does Mike Nolan do defensively 746 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: and then what does Cliff Kingsbury do to counter? What 747 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys showed defensively. Yeah, and we saw Greg Williams. 748 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, it's a chess match. It's 749 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: it's almost like pick your poison. Do you try to 750 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: bring five or six on Murray? Where you're gonna try 751 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: to cut down on his throwing lanes. He's gonna have 752 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: to find a crease. He's gonna have to roll outside 753 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: the pocket, which obviously gives their defense some trouble because 754 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: they've got to cover and guys come back to the ball. 755 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: But I noticed in the game last night, you look 756 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: at Josh Allen, they're cutting the field and half for him, 757 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: and Mark Trustman did that. And he's a right hand 758 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Now he can go to his left, and 759 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: there's sometimes that Kyler can do that and it doesn't 760 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: mean he has to run the wide receivers will start 761 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: dragging to the sidelines, some will come back to the 762 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: ball and maybe you're thinking about an intermedia route, but 763 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: it could be a ten yard pass. So there's different 764 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: ways to calculate that if they if they want to 765 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: rush him and he gets outside the pocket, or if 766 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: they want to rush for and according to Roy, he 767 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: thinks he's been really accurate you know, obviously, you know 768 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: he's got some interceptions and there could have been a 769 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: couple more, and maybe he's just taking chances there, but 770 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: calculated chances. Well, he's completing almost seventy percent of his passes, 771 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: which is a great number. Yet there are certainly been 772 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: times where we've seen him overthrow receivers or throw wide 773 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 1: to receivers, take chances on those deeper shots. So even 774 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: better than that, I think is what people can start 775 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: to hopefully expect from a Kyler Mroy And maybe that 776 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: happens this coming Monday night as we bring this edition 777 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday proud partner of 778 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Full Circle. We began talking about Chandler Jones. 779 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: More on that tomorrow when defensive coordinator Banch Joseph addresses 780 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: the media. Not sure how much in depth or detail 781 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: will get from the that's the coordinator as far as 782 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: what now they'll try to do to mitigate the loss 783 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: of number fifty five, But I am certainly curious on 784 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: what this team will attempt to do without Jones on 785 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, They're gonna play probably six outside linebackers 786 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: flood the position we're bringing six. You only can block five. 787 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: We're not worried about you throwing it and being facetious. 788 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: Now he's not gonna tell us, but if you listen 789 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: to Hi when he talks, not so much connecting the dots. 790 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: But they'll have a game plan, and that game plan 791 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: was put in when they got back from from New 792 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: York and they knew that Dak was going to be out. 793 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: We'll find out tomorrow. And on that note, let's put 794 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented 795 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: by Hunday, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special 796 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: thanks to our executive producer, Jim I'm a Hundro for 797 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. I'm Craig Rayel Loup. We'll talk to you 798 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: next time you're on Cardinals Cover two