WEBVTT - Avenger | 5. The Flight Logs 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.880 Hello, Avenger listeners, It's Steve Fishman and I'm really glad 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.120 you've tuned in. I hope you love this show as 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.200 much as we do. A quick word on an upcoming 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:14.160 bonus episode. We're doing a bonus with Miriam, the real Miriam. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.720 We'll be asking her questions, your questions and getting answers. 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.840 She'll update us on what's going on in her world 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:26.040 and a lot has Please email your questions or thoughts 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:32.840 or comments too. Info at Orbitmedia dot fm. Oh And 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.120 Fisher Stevens can answer your questions too. He's our co 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.639 founder and resident oscar Winner. 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Well, after all 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:20.000 this time investigating this alone with Giancarlo, this was our 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:25.600 story and ours alone. So I storm into my boss's 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.480 office at Canalre. I hand him the article and tell 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.320 him we're getting scooped on a huge story. He looks 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.600 at the article and downplays it, telling me, come on, 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.800 you have a lot more than this. I say, sure, 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.200 but look at how close he is. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.520 From Orbit Media. I'm andres caa was schedo. This is 0:02:49.560 --> 0:03:13.400 Avenger the story of Medium Lewin episode five the flight Logs. 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.920 Medium's boss had been dragging his feet for months, coming 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.480 up with one excuse after another to not pursue this story. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.920 None of them made sense to Medium, but finally she 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.320 managed to corner him. The story was going to be 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.800 done one way or another. Medium's boss gives in, he 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:40.040 will run the story. Medium starts working with her colleagues 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.360 at Canal Trece. They want footage of that sky van 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.000 she and Giancarlo had located in Florida. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.000 We need to see the planes, get our cameras there, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.880 but we have to be careful. We can't just call 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.920 the owners and say, yeah, hi, we're calling because you 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.640 own an aircraft used for one of the cruelest operations 0:03:58.760 --> 0:03:59.800 during the dictatorship. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.200 But while they're strategizing, Medium's boss tells her he can't 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.960 afford to center to Florida. Instead, they can hire a 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.320 freelancer he knows there, Bruno Vine. 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.680 So I call Bruno, I explain what we need and 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.920 tell him to schedule a meeting to see the plane 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.680 in for the Lauderdale. I brief him and I tell 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.600 him to be careful that he should not lead with 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.080 the information about the death flights. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.560 When I get there, I realize the owner is not 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.520 aware of the plane's history and I can't remember why 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.760 it happened. But all of a sudden, he tells me 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.839 he has some documents that came with a plane. I 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.480 had no idea what I was about to find. 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:56.240 Medium Bruno seeer. 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:01.000 Bruno confirms it's the plane, and then he tells her 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:06.920 something unexpected. The plane comes with the flight lugs. Medium 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.800 hangs up with Bruno and he immediately caused Giancarlo. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.600 I remember when Miriam called me. I was in Rome 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.560 having dinner with friends at the restaurant. I had to 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.880 leave the table and go outside so I could hear 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:19.679 what she was saying. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.320 I just hung up the phone with Bruno. In Florida, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.839 he saw the sky Evan and the owner had no 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.960 clue about its history. He even said he had the 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:34.600 flight lugs dating back to nineteen seventy six, details roots 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.279 names of each one of those pilots. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.359 I was excited, not cautious. I told her to stop 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.359 talking about this over the phone. I hung up and 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.479 booked a flight to Buenos Aires right away. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:56.000 Once they're both in Buenos Aires, Giancarlo and Medium start 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:00.200 pouring over the flight lugs. Bruno sent over, but there's 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:01.000 a snag. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.599 A bunch of abbreviations and jargon in the logs that 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:04.520 we don't understand. 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.440 We need someone who knows about planes and how that 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.320 world works to help us decipher the logs. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.040 I suggest going back to Enrica Pinero, but Medium won't 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:15.280 have it. 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:20.239 I was still bitter about Enrique saying no to us earlier. Also, 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.080 Canal Trece had already told me they did not want 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.440 us to use him, because frankly, it's like this petty 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.360 thing where they did not want to inflate his fame 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:30.279 even more. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.080 One of Medium's coworkers has connections. She knows another pilot 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.200 who might be able to decipher the flight lugs. She 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:39.119 sets up a meeting. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.920 We chose a cafe near Canal Trece. 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.400 Medium arrives a few minutes early. She's holding a plastic 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.159 bag with copies of the flight lugs. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.040 I sit at a table with a view of a park, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:01.039 and it just so happens there's a mural by Mnuaktis. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.919 She's actually an artist who is imprisoned with me. She 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:09.239 also survived. It's like a sign we're on the right track. 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:14.040 Medium orders a coffee and waits. Fifteen minutes go by, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.160 no pilot. She calls his. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.480 Phone, It goes straight to voicemail. 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.120 She waits another fifteen minutes. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:28.080 I try again, no answer, so I call my colleague 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:33.080 at Canal Tresi to see if anyone has left a message. No, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:33.880 no messages. 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:40.560 It's clear nobody is showing up. Medium is concerned. The 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:45.000 pilot seems so willing, and then nothing, no phone call, 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:51.120 no messages. Medium's antennas go up. Her producers shift gears 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:52.760 and connect with another pilot. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.840 We choose a new meeting place away from downtown and 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.480 this guy he shows up. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:07.440 By then, Medium knew how the death flights worked. What 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.840 she and gian Carlo couldn't figure out was how this 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:15.360 was recorded in the logs. The pilot helps and. 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.400 Right away he starts pointing out irregularities that catches attention. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.720 For example, some flights took a lot longer than usual. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.320 He tells me that doesn't make sense. A lot of 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.600 these flights are just from one nearby airport to another. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.560 They shouldn't take very long. So I asked him, could 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:40.120 these be death flights? Yes, he says absolutely. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.839 It's exactly what medium needs an expert who can point 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.880 to the inconsistencies, talk about him on camera and say. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:52.160 These logs raise serious red flags. That's what we wanted, 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.520 a professional, certified pilot questioning them. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.760 But when she asks the pilot if he'll go on 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.920 air and say this, he says no, a flat out no. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.520 He tells me that back in nineteen seventy eight, a 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.360 lot of the military pilots who had flown during the 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.679 first two years of the dictatorship eventually went on to 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:19.160 work for airlines. Most of them were still active and 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.800 had moved up the ranks. He says he'll only talk 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.240 off the record, that showing his face would be like 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.800 signing his death sentence. 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.160 He's not the only person afraid of this story. It 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.680 turns out that the first pilot she wanted to meet, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.160 the one who ghosted her, actually fled the country after 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:39.840 realizing what the meeting was about. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:44.080 He freaked out and booked a flight to Uruguay. Didn't 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.040 even tell his mother or wife. He was terrified. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.960 This is one of the consequences of a country that 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.920 transitioned to democracy but left people who tortured and killed 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.240 operate freely throughout the country. 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:04.360 Right former torturer, now working normal jobs, still in positions 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:04.920 of power. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.520 They were trying to do whatever was necessary to keep 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:09.520 their past buried. 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.200 In two thousand and eight, a star witness in a 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:18.240 trial involving crimes by the dictatorship suddenly vanished. That impacted 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.079 a lot of survivors who decided to stop collaborating with 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.280 court proceedings out of fear. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.079 There was definitely a culture of silence. But we still 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.520 needed an expert and someone who would go on the record. 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:37.400 So again I insisted we have to talk to Enrica Pinero. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:39.080 He's not going to cower. 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.960 He has no fear and he loved to talk. He 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:44.640 loved to be quoted in the press. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:50.840 I hated it, but Giancarlo was right. We had to 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.800 go back to Enrique. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.599 Medium and Giancarlo are walking through a ritzy part of 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.960 Buenos Aires where a lot of expats live. They pass 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:05.040 by the botanical garden and arrive at Enrique's film production company. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.319 It's a two story building with automatic doors. We go in, 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:14.960 then we're ushered into Enrique's office. He immediately hugs Giancarlo. 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.040 They laugh and exchange some words in Italian. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.320 We show him the flight logs and video of the 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:30.120 planeing Florida that Bruno collected. He starts looking at everything, So. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.320 They bring me this pile of papers, the technical log 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.439 of this plane they found. It's a maintenance document where 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:41.760 a pilot list the duration of the flight, the departure, 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:47.440 the names of crew Members's cryptic on purpose. We use 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.640 sort of a traffic lingo. For example, zero point five 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:52.800 means half an hour. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.880 So we start seeing how flights that normally take two 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.760 hours were logged as if they had taken more than 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:03.080 four hours. 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.400 And I come across a number of flights that just 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:11.600 make no sense from a narrow nautical standpoint. For example, 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.080 there was a flight from arrow Parque to Punta del Indio, 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.600 normally a forty five minute flight. In the log it 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:23.240 appears as a four hour and fifty minute flight. What 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:28.160 do you mean? It's ludicrous, Darling, Where are you really going? 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:33.800 It's incredible. How come these logs weren't destroyed? I mean 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.000 the dictatorship tried so hard to keep the flights a secret. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.960 Well, normally you don't mess with the technical logs. If 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.920 you want to sell the plane, the new owners have 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.160 to have access to that history. You can't just sell 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.959 or transfer planes without them. 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.920 But Enrique thinks there's another reason the logs weren't destroyed. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:59.199 These people lived with a great sense of impunity. They 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.000 really thought they were going to get away with everything, 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:06.719 and they would never be questioned. I think the Nazis 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:12.040 in Germany were more careful with destroying evidence than these guys. Now, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:16.400 Miriam and jian Carlo they've struck gold. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.720 Now Rique is fully on board. 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.800 They have to finish filming for the TV report. They 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:23.760 need footage. 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.720 We just have to go back to the Electra, the 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.280 plane at the Junkyard in Buenos Aires. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.719 Last time she couldn't go near that plane. It made 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:40.200 her sick, physically ill. This time, the trip to the 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.439 Junkyard turns into an expedition. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:47.240 We had a mini convoy, me, Giancarlo, my producer, and 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.439 the camera operator. We park our cars in a straight 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.040 line outside the gate. I clip on my levelier Mike, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.160 and I tell the cameraman to start recording. 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.000 The plane is right there waiting for them. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.800 This huge plane suddenly rises up from the middle of 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:10.000 all this industrial junk, sustained by two metal columns. I 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.640 get closer to the plane and I can see the 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.760 rust that's eating into the blue and white colors of 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.560 the Argentine flag painted on it. A lone palm tree 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.960 stands at one side, and on the other there are 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:26.240 stairs connected to the plane's open door. It looks sturdy, 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.160 but we're still told to be careful. 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.440 They walk on board one by one. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:37.560 Giancarlo and our cameraman go first. I get closer, I 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:42.520 start feeling anguish all over again. The cabin was big 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:46.040 enough for Giancarlo and the cameraman to work freely. My 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:51.120 producer scanning every corner. He points out a switch with 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.760 a sign next to it the instructions on how to 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.720 use it to open the plane's door in mid air. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:05.440 I I freeze for a bit. I think of the 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.040 people who's fall from the sky meant the end of 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.280 their torture. Had some of them woken up from their 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.000 sleep when their skin felt the piercing cold that night, 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.880 or did they stay asleep unconscious until they hit the water. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.160 This plane was used to throw people to their deaths, 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.320 people I knew, people I loved. 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:44.400 When they finished filming, Medium finally meets the owner. He 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.480 tells her how he bought the plane as junk, which 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.600 meant it came to him without flight logs. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.520 He actually planned to turn it into some sort of 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:59.960 attraction for kids. He wanted to build a candy store 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:00.680 inside of it. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.320 When Medium gets back to Canal Trees later that day, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.720 she calls two other survivors of the asthma for her report. 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.720 She needs their testimony about what happened on Wednesdays, the 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:17.760 infamous transfer Wednesdays we've mentioned before, when prisoners were put 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:22.320 on death flights. Medium keeps researching and she finds a 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:26.480 BBC documentary about the sky Van. It actually in Argentina 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:27.240 when this one. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:28.880 Was delivered in the dock. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:33.560 They're celebrating the legacy of the sky Van. Immediately I 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.040 recognize its ID. It was one of the planes on 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.680 our list. That sky Van was used in the death flights. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.000 They had no clue what they were filming. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:49.000 Medium's team is finalizing the report. She starts talking to 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:53.720 the editor about the potential airtime, but Canal Trece doesn't 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.920 think it's the right time to publish it. Her editors 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.720 say they're worried it's the end of the year. The 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:04.400 store doesn't fit with the holiday spirit. Canal Trece will 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.760 sit on this story for about another five months. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:16.200 Finally, on a very hot night in February twenty ten, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.440 were huddled together in the studio watching the story as 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:27.400 it airs on National Television PA. 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:32.080 That's the voice of the real Medium narrating the report 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.840 starts showing the brown, choppy waters of the river the 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:44.800 Rio la Plata in total quad de Lolfo Silingo, the 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.439 Navy officer who had confessed to take him part in 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:51.159 the death flights, is featured throughout the report, saying that 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:56.159 four thousand people were killed in these flights. Medium speaks 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:02.600 with survivors, prosecutors, historians. She bluntly asks, why does the 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.080 Navy keep hiding the truth? 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:09.359 Porqui lamava no the Silla Barda. 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.199 In the footage, you can see her walking inside the 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:18.120 death plane at the junkyard. She looks around. She has 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.120 straight red hair and wears a black leather jacket. 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:27.959 All you and contre monto de la Florida HeLa Sotalo soundles. 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.280 There's an interview with the owner of the sky van 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:32.360 she found in Florida. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:37.920 When the Navy purchased it, they bought the option of having. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.919 The There's footage from the flight lugs that were in 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:45.400 that plane and then Enrique Pinedo appears, pointing out the inconsistencies, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:51.000 raising questions. He's just what the show needed, someone authoritative, 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:57.520 commanding a role he was born to play. A It 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.280 was all there in Medium's report for Argentina and for 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.280 the world to see. Medium couldn't wait to hear the reaction. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:10.280 I remember hugging my producer. We were proud, we were happy. 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.240 We got a call from the higher ups ae Canal Trees, 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.480 but they gave us lukewarm praise. 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:28.040 Early the next morning, she called Ciancalo to debrief, eager 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:29.840 to assess the impact of the story. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.520 I admit it also took me aback. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.400 The story had zero traction in the newspapers, no coverage 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:38.040 on the radio. 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.240 It might be a disappointment, a big disappointment after years 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:48.520 of work. But Medium wasn't going to let go. She 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:49.560 wasn't going to rest. 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.400 This TV report was just one step in our plan. 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.320 After all, she still hadn't revealed the names of the 0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:00.480 pilots who had to be held responsible. She was thinking ahead. 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.600 Now Medium and Giancadlo turned to the courts, and the 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:17.199 pilot's names will prove invaluable in the next episode. A 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:21.200 prosecutor against the junta's leaders, delivers a surprise punch. 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.439 He makes this bold request for every branch of the 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.119 military to surrender all of their lugs for all of 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.439 the planes they've flown during the Junta years. 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:49.760 From Orbit Media, this is Avenger, the Story of Medium Lewin. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.040 I'm your host and senior producer Andresca A. Scheedo. The 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:57.880 series was produced by es Seguielrodrie Sandino and edited by 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:04.120 Monica Campbell. Original Nicolas Paschela, mixing and mastering Christopher Hoff 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:09.760 and Austin Smith. Assistant producers andres Feschtenholz and Eleana Gillespian. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:15.480 FactCheck Alejandro Marinelli and leonardos Canoni. Legal review Neil Rossini, 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:20.680 Casting director Paula Gammon Wilson. The executive producers from Orbit 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:26.120 Media are Steve Fishman Fisher Stevens, Marcy Wiseman, and Katie Springer. 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:31.040 The voice actors in Avenger include Alexis Blodel as Medium 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:35.840 Lewin Fulvio de la Volta as Giancarlo Serraudo, Gonzalo Vargas 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:40.359 as Endrique Pinedo, Edgardo Manono Castro as Bruno Vain, and 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:45.840 Tom Schuber as Carlos Macosmiliana and Gustavo. This podcast was 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:50.520 produced in association with Sonodo. The Sonodo executive producers are 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:55.119 Camilla Victoriano, Joshua Weinstein and Jasmine Romeo. The rest of 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:59.760 the Sonodo production team includes senior producer Carmin Gratol, editor 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:05.960 for Rigo Crespo, Producer Paloma Navarro, Nicoletti, Evelyn Give, Marianna Cornello, 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:11.960 Sara Mota, Manuel Para, Hannah Baram and Tasha Sandoval. Special 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.639 thanks to Radio and Casa and Pomeranek Recording Studios in 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:19.879 Buenos Aires, and to Medium Newan and Giancarlo Serrado for 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.520 letting us tell their story. Thank you for listening. 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:49.480 A quick word about subscriptions. 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