1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Welcome into a Week nine Giants hang Out, brought to 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: you by Krester On. My name is Madeline Burke, joined 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: as always by Russ Salzburg and Matt Sietek and guys. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Week nine already midway through this season. It's coming off 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: a tough loss on Monday Night Football in primetime and 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Russ we talked about this. You know, the offense is 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: getting the ball moving, but hasn't executed enough. Especially this week. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: We saw those penalty flags. 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Listen, everybody. We saw things that we like. You know, 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: we saw Tyrone Tracy, we saw some good thing. We 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: saw some big catches. But you know, it's it's an 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: old you know, in baseball's they say, oh those bases 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: on balls. Well, in football, oh those self inflicted wounds, 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: oh my goodness, with with illegal procedure and ineligible man downfield. 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you got to be better than that. You know, 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: I say it all the time with a lot of things, 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: whether it's catching the ball a lot. This is not 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: high school, it's it's not college, it's the National Football League. 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: Come on, guys, you got to be better than that. 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: And you know, Madelin you're there, Matt, you're there. I'm there. 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: We see what goes on with the guys working out, 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: We see with the practice the coaches coached these guys 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: up big time. I don't know what it is, but 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: the execution. You know, there's an old saying John McKay, 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: who was the first coach in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: way back. I think they were winless at the time, 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: and somebody reporter, it's McKay, what do you think about 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: your offenses execution, about the execution of your offense, And 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: McKay said, yeah, I'm all for it, meaning execute my offense. 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: You know, these guys have to be better than that. 31 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: We see a lot of good things. I think Tyrone 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: Tracy correct me, well, he's either a fourth or a 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: fifth round pick. I don't have it in front of me. 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: This and you guys see him in a locker room. 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: I see him in a locker room. He doesn't conduct 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: himself like a rookie. There's an air about him, and 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: I don't mean air as if cocky. He's just a 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: confident young man, like as if I belong, and what 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: we're seeing on the field, he very much belongs. So 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be getting the ball a lot. Now, 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: let's see what happens with these in concussion protocol right now. 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: So that's a whole other issue. But you know, to me, 43 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: the biggest thing Madeline and Matt is these self inflicted wounds. 44 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: You gotta be better than that, and those are correctible mistakes. 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to beat it into the ground, but 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: they gotta be better than that. 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, this sort of seemed like, I don't I don't think, 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: I say, the first time all season, but definitely like 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: the biggest case. Yes, the Giants just shooting themselves in 50 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: the foot, honestly. I mean, you look at the final tally. 51 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: The Giants had eleven penalties only for sixty five yards, 52 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: and granted the last one was that defensive too many 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: men on the field, which I want to ask coach 54 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: Dable today. I feel like that might have been intentional 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: to give Pittsburgh the first down in order to stop 56 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 3: the clock and get the ball back. 57 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: But regardless the other I believe at. 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: Least nine, if not the other ten penalties, I think 59 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: we're all on the offense, and they were all you know, 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: illegal formation, illegal shift, like these small tiki tac penalties 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: that ended up really hurting the Giants. I mean one 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: of them illegal I think was the illegal motion on 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: Thelak Neighbors took a touchdown off the board and he. 64 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: Had nothing to do with the play. 65 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: He just didn't get himself set for one second before 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: the ball was snapped and it ended up taking a 67 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: touchdown off the board. 68 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: So going into Pittsburgh, this. 69 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: Is again one of the toughest venues to play as 70 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: an opposing team, and especially in primetime. And we all 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: know the stat of the last time the Steelers lost 72 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: a home game on Monday night football was nineteen ninety one. 73 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 4: So the margin for error going into the game was already. 74 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: Very thin and the Giants couldn't really afford to make 75 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: those kind of mental mistakes and they did, and you know, 76 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: you look at their performance in the red zone. The 77 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: Giants ended up going zero for three in the red 78 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: zone and a very big reason for that was because 79 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: of these small tiki tac penalties that ended up costing 80 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: them and actually took points off of. 81 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 4: The board at one point. 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: Look, nobody likes walking off the field with a loss, nobody, 83 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: but a loss is more tolerable when you walk off 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: the field if you know you just got beat but 85 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: when you walk off the field and you say to yourselves, 86 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: we beat ourselves. Oh, we certainly helped the opponent beat 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: us with those inexcusable mistakes. It drives you crazy. The 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: one thing that I will say that I was happy about. 89 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: And there were some issues on the sideline and I 90 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: heard some people talking about the writing about it. You 91 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: could see players are getting frustrated. They were as they 92 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: should be. Exactly. That's I want guys angry. I wanted 93 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: to see that. You don't want the nicest. 94 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: You don't want to see everybody like ho hum, we're 95 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: not no, no, you wouldn't see that. 96 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: I want. I'm angry. And I was thrilled to see 97 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones really mad. He all kicked off. That's exactly 98 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: what I wanted to see. So to me, i'd be 99 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: frustrated if they didn't show their frustration. I want them 100 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: that way. I thought that was a good sign. 101 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: I do too, I agree, because I think it shows 102 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: that not just the coach, but the team in general 103 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: holds themselves and their teammates to a higher standard. I mean, 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: you see, you know Dexter Lawrence having words with some 105 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: of his teammates, and everyone just be like, hey, listen, 106 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: we got to do better. You see Daniel Jones expressing 107 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: his emotion, and that's, like you said, you want to 108 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: see that passion and that want to because when that 109 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: complacency sets in and the players are like, well, this 110 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: is who we are, that's not that's not going to 111 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: get you anywhere, because this team still believes, hey, we 112 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: are better than this. Let's level up and play to 113 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: the level that we are capable of. And even Brian 114 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: Abel said after the game that he was really proud 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: of the guys who were expressing those sentiments on the sideline. 116 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: Matt, Yeah, I agree with you guys completely. I mean, 117 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: this is Daniel Jones' sixth season with the Giants. That 118 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: was the first time I've seen him react like that 119 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: in six years. My first season worked for the Giants 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: was Daniel Jones's rookie year, and I don't think I've 121 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: ever seen him show that level of emotion. And it 122 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: was honestly great to see and I think it hopefully will. 123 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: Sort of galvanize, you know, at least the offense. 124 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: And you guys brought up Dexter Lawrence also was doing 125 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: something similar to the same. It's good to see the 126 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: team's leaders stepping up and being like, look, we are 127 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: two and six. 128 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 4: This is not unacceptable. All of us agree that this 129 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 4: is unacceptable. We all believe we are better than this 130 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: two and six record, but what we believe doesn't matter. 131 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: We need to go out and prove it and start 132 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: winning football games. And I think you know, these team 133 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: leaders showing this level of emotion is going to help 134 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: the team moving forward and starting the Sunday against the Commanders. 135 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: You know, if your boss is in your ear in 136 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: any situation, you're like, yes, of course you say it. 137 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: But when your peers and when your colleagues are saying 138 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: hey you, you know, that's that's a different kind of 139 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: level of like, all right, let's do this. 140 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 141 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: No, No. 142 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 2: Daniel also said something and you know postgame, when somebody 143 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: questioned them about, well, we're seeing intensity. We saw intensity 144 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: tonight that we don't normally see. I'm paraphrasing, and his 145 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: response was, no, I'm intense every game. I just maybe 146 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm not showing it outwardly. I'm intense every game. He 147 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: had an edge on I thought, I'm glad we all 148 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: agree because if somebody wants to say, well, you show 149 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: me you know somebody you can spin it and say, well, 150 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: the team's being pulled apart. They're frustrated with no, they're 151 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: angry because they believe they're better than this. So Mike's 152 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: suggestion to everybody is, if you believe you are better 153 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: than this, well let's start showing it this against the 154 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: commanders and stop beating your cells. Make sure you beat 155 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: the opponent. 156 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: Right, It's like they talk about they're putting in the work, 157 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: they're putting in the preparation. It's just not translating, and 158 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: it can be frustrating. Right if you're in the gym 159 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: running every day, trying to get faster, and then you 160 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: go out and run your ten k and you still 161 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: are at the same pace, You're like, what is going on? 162 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: What am I not doing? That's frustrating, that's going to translate. 163 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: I think that this team is feeling those similar frustrations 164 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: in the fact that they are putting in the effort 165 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out when they will get to 166 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 1: that tipping point that it'll translate. One of the points 167 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: so that you brought up Russ Tyrone. Tracy was running 168 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: through guys. I mean the amount of yards that he 169 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: had after contact were incredible. There was a seventeen yard 170 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: run that I feel like he had to work for 171 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: sixteen of those. I mean, he got contacted right off 172 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: the bat and was dragging defenders with him. He had 173 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: a forty five yard touchdown, the giants only offensive touchdown 174 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: of the game. Unfortunately, Tyrone Tracy is in the concussion 175 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: protocol this week. But the way that we've seen him 176 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: like light a spark in the run game and the 177 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: way that the run game has helped get the Giants going. 178 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Matt, we've talked about this in weeks past, 179 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: the importance of getting the run game going. Devin Singletary 180 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: obviously still available and still capable of doing that, But 181 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: when you look at the way that this Washington game 182 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: is going to go, how important is it to focus 183 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: on getting the run going. 184 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's It's vital regardless of who the 185 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: opponent is, because if you have a good run game 186 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: and you establish the run game, then the defenders are 187 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: going to have to respect that, and there you know, 188 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: that's going to open things up for the passing game. 189 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: I Mean, we spoke last week about complimentary football. The 190 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: run game helps the pass game, just like the pass 191 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: game helps the run game. Now, we don't know if 192 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: we're gonna if the Giants are going to have Tyrone 193 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: Tracy because as you mentioned, he's coach said he's in 194 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: the concussion protocol. But I just want to highlight his 195 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: performance against the Steelers because. 196 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: Wow, was he impressive. 197 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: And this was going up against one of, if not 198 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: the best run defenses in the entire NFL. A defensive 199 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: line that consists of TJ Watt, Alex high Smith, Cameron Hayward, 200 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: and Tyron Tracy basically did whatever he wanted with the 201 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: ball in his hands. It was incredible. He averaged over 202 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: seven yards per carry the second time the season. What 203 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: since he's become the starter that he has averaged over 204 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: seven yards per carry And you mentioned his yards after 205 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: contact three point seven yards after contact, which is incredible. 206 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: It's his highest of the season. He had four different 207 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 3: runs of over ten yards. And this was a little 208 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: fun tidbit from next Gen Stats. On that forty five 209 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: yard touchdown run, he reached a top speed of twenty 210 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: point six miles per hour, which is the fastest any 211 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: offensive ball carry on the Giants has reached in the 212 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: last two seasons. 213 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 4: Wow. Indian Yeah, he's been great. 214 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: He forced five missed tackles, which was fifty percent of 215 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 3: the amount of force tackles he missed forced all season. 216 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 3: And again this was up against an elite run defense 217 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: of the Steelers. So you know, if he's unable to 218 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: make it this Sunday against the Commanders, that's obviously going 219 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: to be a tough blow. But as we saw earlier 220 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: in the season, Devin Singletaries, he's got plenty of juice left. 221 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: I mean he I just brought up forced miss tackles 222 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: through the first I believe three or four weeks of 223 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: the season, he led all running backs and forced tackles missed. 224 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: So whether it's Singletary or Tyrone Tracy, it is going 225 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: to be very important for the Giants to establish the run. 226 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: And this matchup against the Commanders it is one that they, 227 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, can take advantage of on the ground and 228 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: they should be able to establish the run early and often. 229 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, what you said about Tyrone is so true. 230 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: And if you recall I mentioned it last week, I'll 231 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: say it again. He runs, I use my boxing phrase, 232 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy runs with bad intentions. He's looking to do business. 233 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: Get out of my way. I mean, there's a fierceness 234 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: and an attitude that he runs like he's all business, 235 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: which is great. I mean one thing that I want 236 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: to bring up flipping over to the defense again. You 237 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: know they have good games, but again there was at 238 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: the end of the third period the third quarter, third 239 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 2: and eleven is a thirty six yard gain that they 240 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: give up. Earlier, there was a third and twelve the 241 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: Steelers pick up seventeen. Those are the things we were 242 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: talking about last week. Explosive. We need explosive plays on offense. 243 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: We need explosive plays. Make sure you don't give them 244 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: up on defense. They're still rearing their ugly heads when 245 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: it comes to that, and that has to be stopped. 246 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: As well, especially on third and long too. I think 247 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: yeat those situations and previous games as well. You know, 248 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: the defense gets them into a third and long position 249 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: and it's a combination of you know, one blown coverage 250 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: or defense just being gassed for being out there or 251 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: whatever it is. But when you've got them in third 252 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: and long, you've got to hold. 253 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: Them, get them off the field. That's exactly that's what 254 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: the problem is. And it drives you nuts a lot, 255 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: Like I'm looking at a team at the same point. 256 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: We're doing good. We're doing good. The boom, third and fifteenth, 257 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: Come on, that's what you have to do. And I 258 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: don't know if it's execution, concentration, whatever it is, but 259 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: you know, tighten up that chin strap and let's go 260 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: make it happen. 261 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: Well, oh, go ahead, Matt. 262 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: I was just going to say, you know, you brought 263 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: up that third and long, which obviously the Steelers got 264 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: the first down extended to drive. 265 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: You don't want to see that. 266 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: But for the most part, the defense has been doing 267 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: a good job of getting off the field in those 268 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: key situations. I mean, the week before against the Eagles, 269 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: which a game obviously we all agree was a pretty 270 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: ugly game. They held the Eagles. I believe it was 271 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: like one for thirteen on third down. Now, the Steelers 272 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: had a little bit more success, but still through the 273 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 3: first eight games of the season, the Giants have the 274 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: number seven ranked third down defense. 275 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: Well, and that's that Eagle stat is a little bit 276 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: misleading though, because the amount of times that they went 277 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: forward on fourth down. 278 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 3: Yeah they did go three for three on fourth down, Yeah, 279 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: that is true, but convert you want to count those 280 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: that's four for thirteen. 281 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: That's you know, still a very good defense. 282 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: Right And you know, but speaking about the defense, though 283 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: they are still getting a lot of pressure, still leading 284 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: the league in sacks. You know, Dexter Lawrence was involved 285 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: in every single pressure, it seemed like, and he didn't 286 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: get a sack on the stat sheet, but he was 287 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: everywhere in the game. On Monday night, Azizo Jalari with 288 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: two sacks, who's been really stepping up in the absence 289 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: of Cavon, Thibodau and Matt I know that you talked 290 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: about this earlier in the year, that the potential was 291 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: there for him to rise to that occasion. He's absolutely 292 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: executed in that way. It's about kind of finding a 293 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: balance though behind but between that defensive front and the 294 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: corners and the safeties in the backfield. And I know 295 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: that they came into Monday's game really depleted at corner, 296 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, with Cordell Flott and adri Jackson but out 297 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: and but when you look at the balance of the 298 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: defensive approach right now and the success that they've been 299 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: able to have, especially coming into this season, you know, 300 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: fans and media alike were asking, well, you know, I 301 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: know with wings defense, we've blitz a lot, and how 302 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: are we going to get pressure? Well, the Giants are 303 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: getting pressure again, leading the league in sacks, getting a 304 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the quarterback. The defense has really 305 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: become the strength of this team. How do you see 306 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: that continuing to translate but also evolving when you're going 307 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: against a Washington team that's coming off an incredible win 308 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: over the Chicago Bears a hail Mary to end that game, 309 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: and you know, a dynamic young quarterback and Jayden Daniels 310 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: who's going to be an absolute threat. 311 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I excuse me. I think from the Giants standpoint, 312 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: they look at themselves and they look at the game 313 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: film and they says, you know what, we had them 314 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: in their own building, so let's take care of them 315 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: in our building. If you remember, if Malik catches that 316 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: ball but had a first down, Giants, we're going to 317 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: win that game. 318 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: If they had a kicker, Giants, we're going to win 319 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: that game. 320 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. So what was but even with that, they was 321 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: still gonna win that game. That's a great point. If 322 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: they had a kicker, yes, but even with that mess 323 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: Madeleine again, it's it's execution, it's getting a job done, 324 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: you know. And listen, you saw Malik just with his 325 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: face down on the turf. He knew that was his ball. 326 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: He took it upon himself. He accepts that responsibility and 327 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: he holds himself to a high standard. Well, go take 328 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: care of it this week. I don't think, I mean 329 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: to me, they have to know that they can beat 330 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: that team with that great young quarterback or not. So 331 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: go do it because you had him last time in 332 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: their own place. 333 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. 334 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: And you know, just going back to the defense, I 335 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: mean you mentioned Dexter Lawrence against the Dealers. He might 336 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: not have finished with a sack on the box score, 337 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: but you can basically credit that Brian Burns sacked to 338 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence because he did about ninety five percent of 339 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: the work and Brian Burns was just there to sort 340 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: of finish it off. 341 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: I know that doesn't show up in the box score, 342 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: but for. 343 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 3: Those of us you know, watching and talking about the game, 344 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence, you know, deserved a sack on that one. 345 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: But the pass rush the unit has honestly probably been 346 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 3: better these last couple of weeks than it even was 347 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 3: at the start of the season, which is sort of 348 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: incredible to think about when you remember that Kaveon Thibodeau 349 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: is still on injured reserve. 350 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 4: But a zezo Jalai that. 351 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: You brought up, Matteline, he's honestly, he's been on fire. 352 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: He has at least one sack in the last three games, 353 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: five sacks total in the last three games. Brian Burns 354 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 3: has a sack in each of the last four games. 355 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 4: And the trio of. 356 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns and the zizo Jelai, they seem to, 357 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: you know, almost every single dropback of the opposing quarterback, 358 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: they seem to be able to get at least some. 359 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: Pressure on the quarterback. 360 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: Not all of them result in sacks, of course, but 361 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: they are able to get after the quarterback. And the 362 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: first time the Giants played the Commanders, granted it was 363 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 3: week two, it was only Jaane daniel second start of 364 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: his career, but the Giants were able to get. 365 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 4: To Jade Daniels as well. 366 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: I mean they sacked him five times, which is tough 367 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: to do against a mobile quarterback. 368 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 4: That is not afraid to tuck the ball down and 369 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 4: just run with it. 370 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: So the pass rush has already shown that they could 371 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: have success against Jayden Daniels. Now this game at home, 372 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: where obviously home field advantage, you have the crowd, the 373 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: crowd noise working to your advantage. 374 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 4: I don't see why they shouldn't be able to get 375 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 4: after Jade. 376 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: Daniels again early and often and just apply pressure on him. 377 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 3: I mean, you brought up to hail Mary, which has 378 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: got to be the play of the year so far 379 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 3: in the NFL. 380 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 4: But the reason why it was able to happen was 381 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 4: just because he had so much time to sit in 382 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: the pocket. 383 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was like twelve and a 384 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: half seconds from when he snapped the ball to when 385 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 3: he actually threw it. 386 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: Granted, that's a hail mary. That sort of protection is 387 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 4: not going to last on a normal play. 388 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: But if the Giants are able to just pressure Jade 389 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: Daniels and get after him, you're gonna start to see 390 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: as great as he's been, You're gonna start to be 391 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: able to show he is a rookie quarterback that is 392 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 3: going to make some mistakes with the ball in his hands. 393 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: You also said something before, Matt about you know the 394 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: home crowd and in front of your home fans, it's 395 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: imperative imperative for the Giants to get their home fans, 396 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: give them something early to get revved up about, not 397 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: fall behind, not not do a failure in the red zone, 398 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: not give up the big play. Give them something early 399 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: to get revved up about. Get them excited early so 400 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: they're into the game and you hear their voices loud 401 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: and clear by doing it early. 402 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because the Giants have had so much more 403 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: success on the road than at home this season and 404 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: of late. And I think those home fans of season 405 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: to get olders are eager to see some you know, 406 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: some fireworks at home as well. But it'll be a 407 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: fun one in Division games Sunday at home at MetLife Stadium. 408 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: Final thoughts, final points. What is the focus going into 409 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: Week nine for this Giants team to get a win 410 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: against the Commanders? 411 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 4: Matt for me, and I feel like a broken record. 412 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: I say this almost every week, but it's got to 413 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: be the performance in the red zone on both sides 414 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: of the ball. I mean, the Giants went over I 415 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: think zero for four in the red zone against the 416 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: Steelers this past Monday night. That's just you're, honestly, it's 417 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: not going to get it done. You're not gonna win 418 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: football games if you're not able to punch it into 419 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: the end zone when you get close. Now, the red 420 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: zone defense against the Steelers, as I mentioned before, was great. 421 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 3: They held them without a touchdown on every single trip 422 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: inside the red zone. But again I brought up Jaye 423 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: and Daniels being this mobile, dual threat quarterback. He's not 424 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: afraid to just tuck the ball down and run with it. 425 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 3: And if they get into the red zone and he 426 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 3: starts feeling a little pressure and gets flushed out of 427 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: the pocket, that's exactly. 428 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 4: What he's gonna do. 429 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: He's gonna tuck the ball and run it himself and 430 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: try to get into the end zone. So the performance 431 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 3: in the red zone of both sides of the ball, 432 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: the Giants can improve on. From those areas, from you know, 433 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: the last time they played the Commanders, even the last 434 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: game against the Steelers, then they have a good chance 435 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: of winning this football game. 436 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's from my standpoint, I'll make it real simple. 437 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 2: Attention to detail, that's what that's what the Giants need 438 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: to do. If they pay attention to detail and they 439 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: execute properly, I think they have a very good chance 440 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: of coming away with a home victory. 441 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: I think both those are great points. Red Zone. You 442 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: got to execute detail, especially, do the do the simple 443 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: things right, do the little things effectively, and just get 444 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: off to a strong start. You know. Don't shoot yourself 445 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: in the foot, don't dig yourself in a hole that 446 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: you can't get out of. Because we want to give 447 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: those home fans something to cheer for Sunday at MetLife Stadium. 448 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: It's a one pm kickoff Giants Commanders Week nine. We 449 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: hope we'll see there. That's a rout for a week 450 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: nine Giants Hangout, brought to you by Crestron for Russ 451 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: Salzburg and Matt SyTech. I'm Madeline Burke. 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