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Speaker 1: Previously on We the un Housed, What is your feelings

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Speaker 1: on the new president as well as the Grant's past ruling.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of what Grant passes? No, I'm not familiar.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of for the Gwen eighteen is No?

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm hopeful because I see every single day

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Speaker 2: people that want to make a difference in, people that

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Speaker 2: want to see the change, changes that we needed to

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Speaker 2: make sure that every single neighbor is taken care of.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to weed the in House. I'm your host EO Henderson.

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Speaker 1: This week, right in time for the holidays, we're heading

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Speaker 1: back into the field and learning more about an unhoused

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Speaker 1: mutual aid organization on the east side of Los Angeles, Sila.

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Speaker 1: But first on House News, I would like to express

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Speaker 1: my profound frustration and disappointment on the verdict Daniel Penny received.

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Speaker 1: Before I break down the entire situation and how it

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Speaker 1: impacts the House community, I would like to take a

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Speaker 1: moment of silence to remember Jordan Neeli come with me

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Speaker 1: on this journey to break down the supposed heroism of

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Speaker 1: Daniel Penney and Luigi Maggione. Luigi Maggione's situation he has

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Speaker 1: the corporate health systems abuse of vulnerable people looking for

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Speaker 1: medical treatment to be covered. Conversely, there was none of

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Speaker 1: the same sympathy and empathy for another person that healthcare

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Speaker 1: system failed, and that's Jordan Neely. When Jordan Neely expressed

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Speaker 1: that chemotherapy treatment because insurance didn't cover it. Our society

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Speaker 1: Based on social media's comments and celebratory actions after Daniel

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Speaker 1: Penny's not guilty verter, it shows how the narrative was

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Speaker 1: crafted to justify Jordan Neely's death. Many of the things

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Speaker 1: Jordan Nearly did in his lifetime could be attributed to

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Speaker 1: his illness, financial circumstances and his inability to seek sustain

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Speaker 1: medical treatment because he did not have insurance. What is

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Speaker 1: also glaringly apparent is the nimbi like responses. Witnesses said

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Speaker 1: about mister Neely that he seemed dangerous, they were scared,

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Speaker 1: and because of his verbal outbursts, felt that Daniel Penny's

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Speaker 1: behavior was justified. Jordan Neely did not touch anyone on

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Speaker 1: that train, but the trained occupants touched Jordan Neely and

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Speaker 1: decided his life should be extinguished. New York has had

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Speaker 1: two separate instiduses where apparently unhoused people have killed house people.

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Speaker 1: It is not outside the rum of possibility. This vigilanteism

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Speaker 1: Daniel Pennies of the world. As a final note, whenever

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Speaker 1: socialists that want to take over the world. How much

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Speaker 1: better would our society be if we could provide healthcare

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Speaker 1: treatment for all without the bloodsuckers. And that's in house news.

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Speaker 1: When we come back more from the field, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Whedian House. When I went to see the services

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Speaker 1: Here's our chack.

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Speaker 3: Hi wached Cabio. I started out everything great because I

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Speaker 1: So what do you see yourself doing in the future.

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Speaker 3: If I wasn't homeless, I would have nervo felt this

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Speaker 3: So I encouragement the main thing I'm saying, because what

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Speaker 3: I did, it was God's fault. Everything was God's fault.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Kabaya for his time. On a

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Speaker 5: So we have a really large crowd.

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Speaker 4: And then it was also this immediate, beautiful onslaught of

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Speaker 4: Yes, So what we do at CELA is because we

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Speaker 4: So we are going to have a hot meal of

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Speaker 1: The difficulty the equal footing that house and unhoused people

436
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Speaker 1: have is that it's not widely known, and it's the

437
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Speaker 1: nuances and the details are not widely dispersed enough. For example, recently,

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Speaker 1: we've had a couple of climate change events cataclysmic where

439
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Speaker 1: there was a flooding and disasters over in North Carolina

440
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Speaker 1: and people's houses were devastated, And I asked the question,

441
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Speaker 1: are those residents fall under to the Grants Pass ruling?

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Speaker 1: For example, there's been brushfires recently and there's people's homes

443
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Speaker 1: has been deemed not habitable. Are they under the same

444
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Speaker 1: auspices of grants Pass ruling because they're on housed or

445
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Speaker 1: displays and some of the monies that we've been hearing

446
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Speaker 1: is not adequate enough to resurrect their housing and their

447
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Speaker 1: way of life. That they had before, so what are

448
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Speaker 1: they going to do? And as predictably, people are going

449
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Speaker 1: to migrate in different areas, and we have shown as

450
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Speaker 1: a country that we're not the most welcoming of people

451
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Speaker 1: that coming from different places inwardly and definitely externally. So

452
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Speaker 1: I think that one of the conversation points that understand

453
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Speaker 1: how poorly thought out Grant's pass is, but also how

454
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Speaker 1: it affects people who had not contemplated that this issue

455
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Speaker 1: was going to apply to them.

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Speaker 4: I just want to second everything you said. I feel

457
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Speaker 4: like what's been going on, like with Hurricane Heleen and

458
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Speaker 4: all of that, it's just like an intersection like every

459
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Speaker 4: evil of this country, like climate, like capitalism, housing justice.

460
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Speaker 4: I read something how obviously these folks are still sheltered,

461
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Speaker 4: but when yeah, yeah, but even like tenants, people who

462
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Speaker 4: live in apartment buildings there. I was just reading about

463
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Speaker 4: how when there's these environmental disasters, the first people to

464
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Speaker 4: not have any protection are renters, and so then of

465
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Speaker 4: course it's going to lead to more people who are

466
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Speaker 4: in house and so it is just like so psychlical

467
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Speaker 4: and scary, and so I think I disagree with everything

468
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Speaker 4: you said, and I think what we're thinking about in

469
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Speaker 4: Los Angeles and in the neighborhoods we go to specifically

470
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Speaker 4: are like one of our outreach leads lest who I

471
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Speaker 4: think you may have met. She is really focused on

472
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Speaker 4: supporting folks along the river. And one of those issues

473
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Speaker 4: that is trying to be figured out is that so

474
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: many people have had to go to the river because

475
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Speaker 4: there's areas where they can seek more privacy and they're

476
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Speaker 4: may be less likely to be harassed. Yes there's park

477
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 4: rangers all that, but people just being able to figure

478
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Speaker 4: it out to be able to escape that.

479
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Speaker 5: Kind of harassment. And now there's two things.

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Speaker 4: It's like, well, there's real, real interested people trying to

481
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Speaker 4: find them now because of Grant's pass. So if you

482
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Speaker 4: have that, but then you also have what's going with

483
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Speaker 4: the climate where some people are not able to move

484
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Speaker 4: their things because there's less time between.

485
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Speaker 5: It used to be like sorry, feel going in circles.

486
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Speaker 4: But it used to be that if we had knew

487
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Speaker 4: a storm was coming, our volunteers would maybe feel like

488
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Speaker 4: they had Okay, this Saturday or this Sunday, we can

489
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Speaker 4: warn people that there might be a storm in a

490
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Speaker 4: few days.

491
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Speaker 5: And now it's been you wake up this.

492
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Speaker 4: Morning and a storm is happening and the city isn't

493
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Speaker 4: warning them, you know so, And on.

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Speaker 1: A smaller scale, I want to point out, and I

495
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Speaker 1: always do this, It's not an accident. If you ever

496
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Speaker 1: watch my twitters or my Instagram postings, I make it

497
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Speaker 1: a point to when I go to places. But also

498
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Speaker 1: here is that because most unhoused people that die are

499
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Speaker 1: dying from hypothermic depths here and there has been no

500
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Speaker 1: posting that I have seen yet from their baths. That's

501
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Speaker 1: just talk about there are any warming stations anybody being

502
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Speaker 1: driven to anywhere. There is no conversation whatsoever. They have

503
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Speaker 1: conversation of removing people and put them in insights starving,

504
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Speaker 1: but they don't show and they don't make it an

505
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Speaker 1: effort that is a continuing effort. Particularly because we're dealing

506
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Speaker 1: with climate change, we should be vigilant in talking about

507
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Speaker 1: these environmental disasters because the first people that deal with

508
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Speaker 1: them are not house people. It's unhoused people. And they

509
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: have to deal with smoke from the brush fires, They

510
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Speaker 1: have to deal with the high temperature index in the

511
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Speaker 1: small they have to deal with the colder climbs, they

512
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Speaker 1: have to deal with the heat. Wait, they have to

513
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Speaker 1: deal with anything that's environmentally that's going to impact their

514
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Speaker 1: survival on top of the antipathy of society as well.

515
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Speaker 4: So absolutely, I just heard somebody says, I can't remember now,

516
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 4: but talking about how unhoused folks are literally on the

517
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Speaker 4: front lines of the climate crisis because production just isn't

518
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Speaker 4: there for obviously reasons we are all very aware of,

519
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 4: and so yeah, it's just we are really saying how

520
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: all of this is intersecting to create a really bad situation.

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Speaker 5: And I think just for us.

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Speaker 4: On like the hyperlocal level, I really feel like the

523
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Speaker 4: La River is such an example of what's going to

524
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Speaker 4: happen or what is happening.

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Speaker 5: It's not going to happen, it is happening.

526
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Speaker 1: When I went out there. Yeah, that's basically part of

527
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Speaker 1: the Yeah. Well so yeah, I could tell you it's

528
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Speaker 1: not voting. Well, but here's a humdinger that I want

529
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Speaker 1: you to to contemplate on. Did you see and I

530
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Speaker 1: noticed I saw all of the notices and awareness of things,

531
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Speaker 1: But did you see any notice about getting the in

532
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Speaker 1: house out of the places in North Carolina the safety

533
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Speaker 1: did you see? I didn't know, And I know they

534
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: can't believe it can be so utopia. They didn't have

535
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Speaker 1: they didn't know anybody that lived on the street or

536
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Speaker 1: a house person. I find out how to believe as

537
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Speaker 1: much as houselessness is everywhere I've gone, and I've seen

538
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: so where you know, they didn't you didn't see it,

539
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: and I didn't see it, And I dare say that

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Speaker 1: this is going to be something that's going to be

541
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Speaker 1: calamitous because of the fact that this is going to

542
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Speaker 1: be a new normal and there's going to be a

543
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: lot of people displaced and they're not going to understand

544
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: the nuances of displacement and how they fit into the

545
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: whole wheelhouse of houselessness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just thinking about what you just said. Like,

547
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: I know that there are local papers and so I

548
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: never want to say like it didn't, but I'm thinking

549
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Speaker 4: about I don't. I don't think I've seen an article

550
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: about like how the unhoused folks are doing.

551
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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people were not fortunate that

552
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Speaker 1: had houses. So I cannot believe that that the unhoused

553
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: people just magically floated on the water, Yeah, balked on

554
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: the water and floated to safety somewhere else they had,

555
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, because then I know there's a housing unhoused

556
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: crisis there as well as just like everyone else, so

557
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: that conversation always get overlooked into mainstream society. And I

558
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: was just walk more Worth keeping median house, going having

559
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: these questions and pushing people to look at the larger

560
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Speaker 1: implications of what this, what it means to be displaced

561
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Speaker 1: and unhoused, and it is not a personal failing. You know,

562
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: no one said that they were wrong. And the storms

563
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: were there with God's john judgment to wash out you know,

564
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know Jay Walkers or people that

565
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: didn't pay their taxes, you know, they definitely are. We're

566
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Speaker 1: undergoing a whole cataclysmic and environmental push to reduce our chances.

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Speaker 1: I think I covered everything. I just want to make

568
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Speaker 1: sure that if you had anything you wanted.

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Speaker 4: To say, I'm so excited to be able to talk

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Speaker 4: to you. I think one thing I would just like

571
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Speaker 4: to say is that I like to think of CELA

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Speaker 4: as a place where obviously we're taking action, but it's

573
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Speaker 4: also a community and it's a place to learn about

574
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Speaker 4: why these things are happening. So I just hope anybody

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Speaker 4: listening feels welcome to visit our website to sign up.

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00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: You will get an email from me if you do.

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00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: We're a very very small place, so we're Cela NHC

578
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: dot org.

579
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Speaker 5: So yeah. So one of the things that is so.

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Speaker 4: Great about this community and really feels restorative when everything

581
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: is really horrible, is that this organization is volunteer run,

582
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: started by volunteers. Like there's three of us on staff now,

583
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Speaker 4: but it is fully following the direction of the people

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Speaker 4: who are out what our participants need and what our

585
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Speaker 4: participants tell our volunteers they need. And so what's great

586
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: is volunteers just start doing things and they just let

587
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: they just let you know and we'll just post about it.

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00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 4: So one of our volunteers, Lauren Girral, is a stand

589
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Speaker 4: up comedian and she has trying to organize a monthly

590
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Speaker 4: mutual aid comedy show where because of connection she has

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Speaker 4: in the work she does trying to bring audiences and

592
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Speaker 4: all of the ticket sales just go to Cela and

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Speaker 4: our ability to purchase supplies. So that is the third

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Speaker 4: Wiel Comedy in East Hollywood, eight pm.

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Speaker 5: But it's on Cela's Instagram, so you can check out.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Rachel. And when we come back

597
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: more from our field reporting at CELA. Welcome back. This

598
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Speaker 1: is theil Henderson with Weedy and House. My next interview

599
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Speaker 1: is with one of the hundreds of volunteers that keeps

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Speaker 1: SELA going, Susie. Susie is a long time volunteer who

601
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Speaker 1: does outreach and builds connection in the Young House community

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Speaker 1: to help connect people with services. I called her right

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Speaker 1: before heading out to catch up with folks on a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Here's our talk. Thank you for taking the time to

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Speaker 1: talk with me, and I want to get some just

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Speaker 1: a general idea. I noticed you're having a kind of orientation,

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Speaker 1: so can you give us in a thumbnail sketch on

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Speaker 1: what are the things that you look for when you

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Speaker 1: go out to help the unhouse and where the supplies

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Speaker 1: that you supply.

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Speaker 7: This is just one of the programs that SEALA provides

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Speaker 7: on Saturdays and outreach volunteers go out on four or

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Speaker 7: potentially five different routes and we bring with us water

614
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Speaker 7: snacks which can mean like granola bars and tunicns and

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Speaker 7: things like that, and we hand out hygiene kits which

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Speaker 7: are all donated and are built by people who are

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Speaker 7: donating them. So that includes shampoo conditioners, soap, hand sanitizer sometimes,

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00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 7: toilet paper sometimes and are very very sought after by

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Speaker 7: people who are living on the street. Also we hand

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Speaker 7: out sometimes cat and dog food. We have certain seasonal

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Speaker 7: products that we hand out so like cooling cloths during

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Speaker 7: the summer, sunscreen and during the winter.

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Speaker 8: We sometimes have hats and gloves.

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Speaker 7: And then yes, we hand out harm reduction kits which

625
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Speaker 7: include safe, clean needles.

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Speaker 1: Why is this so necessary in this.

627
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Speaker 7: You know a number of percentage of unhoused people are

628
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Speaker 7: using drugs and we are trying to destigmatize drug use.

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Speaker 7: And I think a big, you know problem with why

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Speaker 7: drug overdoses and you know, drug use in general has

631
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Speaker 7: kind of gone awry is because it is stigmatized and

632
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Speaker 7: not dealt with as you know, social pandemic of sorts.

633
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Speaker 7: And so we provide the clean needles and clean smoking

634
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Speaker 7: kits because we know that these are people who are

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Speaker 7: going to use these drugs no matter what, and if

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Speaker 7: they don't get clean supplies, they're going to use supplies

637
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Speaker 7: that are not clean and they could be more dangerous.

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00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 7: We also provide testing kits for fentanyl and trenk and

639
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Speaker 7: other things that can make the drug use done more safely.

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Speaker 1: Two things are you worried about the outrage of because

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Speaker 1: I know there are nimbies which is acromen for not

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Speaker 1: in my backyard or in Layman's terms to Karen's for

643
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Speaker 1: against the un House that they have always complained about

644
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Speaker 1: the needles or the apparatuses that are used in it.

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Speaker 1: And what would you say to your listeners in order

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Speaker 1: for them to have compassion. One of the things that

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Speaker 1: I know, I've had family members that were suffering with alcohol,

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Speaker 1: and the thing of it is that we had such

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Speaker 1: a just say no to drugs. But that's the most

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Speaker 1: dangerous thing to do to tell to someone that's an

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Speaker 1: alcoholic because they cannot just detox off of drugs clean,

652
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: because there's the whole host of health the things that

653
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: they have to do before that. And I don't think

654
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: people realize when we make blanket statements those things are

655
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: not taking in consideration. But what's your insight on this?

656
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 7: Like I said, I feel like if we don't hand

657
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 7: out clean supplies, they're going to find supplies. There's still

658
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 7: going to be needles on the ground. It's just going

659
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 7: to be You know that that that's something that's just

660
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 7: inevitable in this climate. We do hand out sharps, containers

661
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 7: and things like that, so there is a way for

662
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 7: it to be you know, done more sanitarily. But you know,

663
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 7: just because someone is not giving them needles or smoking

664
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 7: kids doesn't mean it's going to stop. And now there

665
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 7: all won't be needles on the ground. I also think

666
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 7: very strongly, and this goes for all the things we

667
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 7: do at SILA, is we're building trust with these people

668
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 7: and when they see that we're not judging them for

669
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 7: what they do, and we're providing them with things they

670
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 7: need and things to keep them safe, that if the

671
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 7: time comes when they want to go into rehab or

672
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 7: when they want to talk to somebody about their drug use,

673
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 7: or they want to have us connect them with a

674
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 7: rehab or something like that, or a case manager, then

675
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 7: they'll trust us because they won't be like, oh, this

676
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 7: person judges me for my drug use, or this person

677
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 7: has been preaching.

678
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 8: To me about something or other.

679
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 7: You know, these are people who are very wary of

680
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 7: the system for good reason. And you know, a cop

681
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 7: comes up to them every day and is trying to

682
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 7: be their best friend and then throws them at jail

683
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 7: or takes away all their belongings. You know, they're not

684
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 7: going to go to a cop and you know, ask

685
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 7: for help. So we're that sort of in between of

686
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 7: people who are not being paid to do this. We

687
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 7: are doing this out of our own heart. We're just

688
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 7: trying to humanize these people. We are their neighbors and

689
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 7: we just want them to know that there are some

690
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 7: people out there who do care about them, who see

691
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 7: them as humans, and they're not just trying to get

692
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 7: them arrested thrown off the street.

693
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: So so singly and well put, I also wanted to

694
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: ask one last thing, and I know you have to go,

695
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: is that do you see an improvement with the new

696
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: presidency as well as the Grant's past ruling? How do

697
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: you see these two coinciding events are big on the

698
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: boat well for the unheuse community or not?

699
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 7: No hands down the you know, there was a motion

700
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 7: that was passed in LA to prevent people from camping

701
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 7: on the streets a couple of yeah, and.

702
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 8: It has completely failed. They've admitted that it's failed.

703
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 7: And you know, sweeping people off an area, it just

704
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 7: means they go to another area.

705
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 8: People don't seem to understand that.

706
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 7: So the Grants pass is just a greater version of that,

707
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 7: and it is just there are not.

708
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 8: Enough places for these people to go. People are very selfish.

709
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 7: They just want don't want to see them on their street,

710
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 7: but they're going to end up on someone else's street.

711
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 7: And until we have enough places to put people, enough

712
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 7: places that can give them care, these kinds of rulings

713
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 7: are completely useless.

714
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to point out two different differences. Are always

715
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: trying to do this now Footing with eighteen had basically

716
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: had giving some kind of rain in order for not

717
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: the beast to be unleashed. And I say, if there's

718
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: a better metaphor of grants past is unleash the beast,

719
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: particularly if you listen to the Elmante episode on the

720
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: effects of places like in Oregon where they are just

721
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: coming out and sweeping on house people in all hours

722
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: of the night and making disappear and there's no really

723
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: stop gap to prevent the complete beasts to come out.

724
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: You know, there was forty one or eighteen was a beast,

725
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: but the beasts had arranged. Yeah, you know, there was

726
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: to some limits, there were some things that they couldn't

727
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: just go away with. But the Supreme Court just said

728
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: that that's not an uncruel and unusual punishment to unleash

729
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: and hunt down unhouse people at all hours of the night,

730
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: any time of the day, to criminalize him or make

731
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: fell in need in Tennessee. Against being in house in

732
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: public spaces, it's much more, it has much more tease.

733
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: So I want to always elucidate that difference.

734
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 7: Sure, and I mean, I want to believe in mayorbas

735
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 7: who has said that she will not be implementing it.

736
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 7: But Newsom came down here and did it firsthand. He

737
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 7: did it on his own, and it broke my heart.

738
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 7: Like I look, I Mayorbas, I do give her credit

739
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 7: for getting people into interim housing.

740
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 8: She has definitely upped that ante.

741
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 7: But it's a bottleneck, I mean, and we're going to

742
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 7: end up in a situation where you know, people are

743
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 7: going to be sick of being an interim housing and

744
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 7: they'll be back on the street where it's more comfortable,

745
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 7: or they're not getting their stuff stolen, or it's you know,

746
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 7: they have more freedom. So until we have more permanent

747
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 7: support of housing, you know, this is just going to

748
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 7: be a vicious cycle no matter where you sweet people to.

749
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it's already a vicious cycle because of the food quality,

750
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: the castle rules, the non existent or harsh case management

751
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: that they have going on. And unfortunately in other episodes,

752
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: I've talked about inside Starving and the residents that are

753
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: living under her rule. And most recently and in my

754
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: area in Little Tokyo on New York City Hall where

755
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: they were in house community members that they supposedly put

756
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: it inside Starving, then they put a fence that back

757
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: over theirs that they can't return. So these kind of

758
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: measures gives me pause because it's like it's they don't

759
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: want you to see them. And they say that there's

760
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: a success, and then they put the fence back because

761
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: they know it's not. Because if it was a success,

762
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: then why would you need to put this elaborate fence

763
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: all around city Hall and all around across the street

764
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: where they work. So you're sending the message that don't

765
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: come back.

766
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 8: Or go back or like another place.

767
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: And with grants passed with a lot of the people

768
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: in elmani is they had got together and says we're

769
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: just going to go deeper into the woods. But that

770
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: didn't solve anything. Now they got sheriffs on horseback hunting

771
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: them down in the middle of the night. Get you know,

772
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: so it's that's the reality of what's going on when

773
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: you see these fences or when you see these new

774
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: constructions like out in Chatsworth, when you see these new

775
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: obstacles are on the streets where our v's are, it's

776
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: it's this is like I said, I just was curious

777
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: on their perspective, and I thank you for your time

778
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you giving me your insight on

779
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: what's going on. And how long have you been doing this?

780
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: This type of.

781
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 7: Outreach work I started like during pandemic basically when they

782
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 7: when CILA didn't have volunteers for a while during pandemic,

783
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 7: but when they started letting people back, started going out

784
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 7: and learned from a couple amazing outreach leads who were

785
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 7: just so fantastic. And I would go out and see

786
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 7: these people that they had been seeing for a long time,

787
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 7: who were just so excited to see them, and we

788
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 7: would sit and chat with them, and sometimes you know,

789
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 7: people are just like, oh, but you can't give them

790
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 7: housing because sila's we're a nonprofit, we're not a case,

791
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 7: we're not a service provider.

792
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 8: We can't give people housing.

793
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 7: But people the joy that they get of someone just

794
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 7: coming by and acknowledging them and handing them water, even

795
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 7: if it's nothing else, is worth the three hours that

796
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 7: I spend on a Saturday doing this. I mean you'll

797
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 7: see as you when you go to our on site program.

798
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 8: It's a lot of joy. It's a great.

799
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 7: Community, and you know, a lot of these people don't

800
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 7: talk to anybody all day, and so Cela really provides

801
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 7: this kind of just baseline, consistent group of amazing people

802
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 7: that go out and just really acknowledge our neighbors as

803
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 7: human beings.

804
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Susie. And finally I spoke with

805
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: long time Selia participants Cindy during a program. Cindy tell

806
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: us a little bit about yourself.

807
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 6: Well, my name is Cindy McAllister, and I listed transgender

808
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 6: man to a woman. I've been coming to Seilia for

809
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 6: about a year and a half now, and Celia people

810
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 6: are so welcoming and so friendly. I donate my time

811
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 6: here and I try to be a friend to everybody

812
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 6: who I know who comes here. I try to be

813
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 6: a positive attitude and I make lots of friends just

814
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 6: because I'm a nice person. I don't know what to say.

815
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: How long have you been coming to Ceila.

816
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 6: We think probably about sixteen months or eighteen months.

817
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: What made you come to Seila? What was that?

818
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: Well?

819
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 6: I used to live like two blocks down and one

820
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 6: day I went by on a Wednesday and I saw

821
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 6: these times outside and I was like, what is that

822
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 6: going on there? So next week I wandered on and

823
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 6: saw that Ondnesday afternoon thing, and then they invited me

824
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 6: to Saturday, and I fell in love with the people

825
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 6: and everything, so I started coming every week. People are

826
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 6: so friendly and they're so helpful to you. Today I

827
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 6: went for clothing. They brought me like a dozen things

828
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 6: to choose from. Very very friendly and very helpful.

829
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: It sounds like they give you choices to be able

830
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: to make. Have you experienced other places that have not

831
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: been that friendly?

832
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 6: Yes, I sure have. I won't mention any names, but

833
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 6: those places who like they'll give you one piece of

834
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 6: clothing and you don't have any options?

835
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah? And how does that make you feel?

836
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 4: Well?

837
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 6: You feel appreciative they're giving you something, but you feel like,

838
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 6: why didn't you give me more choices? So it's I

839
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 6: like it. Hear better where they give you options?

840
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: Excellent? Are you are utilizing any other services by accept

841
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: the clothing.

842
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, they helped me with tap card, my Metro tap card,

843
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 6: and they helped me with food. Of course those are

844
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 6: the main things.

845
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: Ooh. So, like I said, you know, Stila has been

846
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: been a very big help for you, very very much.

847
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 6: So, yes, they've been so supportive. When I was moving,

848
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 6: they helped me move. I use the transport, public transportation.

849
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 6: They helped me with their van to move things when

850
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 6: I was moving, and they've been very very very supportive.

851
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: You were living on the streets when you were at

852
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: one point, yes, it was.

853
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 6: And then I lived for twenty two months in somebody's

854
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 6: living room and then they helped me move into where

855
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 6: I'm living in now.

856
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: Oh wonderful. So they offer a variety of services for

857
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: you and they definitely seem to be a big proponent.

858
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: So what's next for you with are you staying continuing

859
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: to come to you?

860
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I come here on Wednesday and Saturday, usually

861
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 6: right now because of day night taming, saving the time,

862
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 6: I try to leave early so i'm home before dark.

863
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 6: But i'd like to I'll sit at the desk and

864
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 6: I'll sign people in, I'll help, you know, donate my time,

865
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 6: and sometimes I come here like today just to hang

866
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 6: out with my friends.

867
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: Excellent. Do you know anything about the grants past ruing? No, Well,

868
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: that's one of the issues. Well, fortunately you're not going

869
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: to have to deal with recently, but it's that deals

870
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Speaker 1: with people that are living on the street and how

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Speaker 1: the police can now criminalize on house people violently without

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Speaker 1: any restrictions or any ramifications.

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Speaker 6: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Well, is there anything else that I missed that you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about?

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Speaker 6: No, I think I've got it covered. I'm very appreciative

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Speaker 6: that you're here and you're asking your opinions. Thank you,

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Cindy for her time. A round

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Speaker 1: of applause for Sela for welcoming Whedian House and learning

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Speaker 1: more about their work. You can follow them to learn

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Speaker 1: more or contribute over on their website at www dot CELA,

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Speaker 1: NHC dot org. And a big hearty thank you to

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Speaker 1: Whedian House fans that showed support at our producer Jamie

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Speaker 1: show on December fourth. And here's a personal thank you

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Speaker 1: from Jamie.

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Speaker 5: Hi, guys, it's Jamie.

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Speaker 9: Thank you so much for coming out and thank you

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Speaker 9: for not mobbing THEEO after the show with all the fans.

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Speaker 9: He's just like us everyone.

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Speaker 8: It's always feels.

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Speaker 9: Nice to have a celebrity at the show. So thank

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Speaker 9: you for being there. Guys, this is really fun.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again, Jamie. If there's any other shows, just

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Speaker 1: let us know. We'll get the word out. Awesome and

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Speaker 1: as always, please like and subscribe and if you would

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Speaker 1: like to share your story on widion House, please reach

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Speaker 1: out to me at median House on Instagram or email

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Speaker 1: me at Wiedianhouse at gmail dot com. Whedian House is

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Speaker 1: the production of iHeartRadio. It is written, posted, and created

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Speaker 1: by me Theo Henderson, our producers Jbie Loftus Hayley Fager,

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Speaker 1: Katie Fischel, and Lyra Smith. Our editor is Adam Wand

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Speaker 1: and our local art is also by Katie Fischer. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening.