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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday. I'm sorry, it's Tuesday, August twenty four,

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Speaker 1: twenty one, Season seventeen, episode number twelve. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of The Break. We are alive from the

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Got Nick and Dave

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Speaker 1: with me, and we're gonna talk some Cowboys football here

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Speaker 1: for the next forty five minutes or so. We got

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the Cowboys versus the Texans.

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Speaker 1: Will break down that game and some of the things

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Speaker 1: that these guys saw. Dave, I see you're very enthusiastic

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Speaker 1: about that. We will also hopefully get to some players

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Speaker 1: in our I get around segment. There's some players and

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Speaker 1: I keep pushing this off because we get into our conversation.

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Speaker 1: Our conversation conversations take the whole show. But there's some

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Speaker 1: players that before this camp is over, we really need

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Speaker 1: to allow you guys to let people know who they are.

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Speaker 1: So I want to run through some of these if

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Speaker 1: we can. Every day. You're paranoid that we won't have

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Speaker 1: enough to talk about. I know one day you push

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Speaker 1: the last secon. I underestimate how much we'd like to

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Speaker 1: hear ourselves talk. You know what, No, we know what happened.

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought that when Amber was out that

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Speaker 1: we would have less talking. We don't like you guys.

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Speaker 1: I told it. I was like I said, before train

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Speaker 1: training camp start. I was like, me and Nick can

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Speaker 1: about that. She if she heard that, she would have

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Speaker 1: been like, all right, right, because she's like she says,

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Speaker 1: she never talks. Yeah, she talks enough, she gets her

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Speaker 1: air time. I think she talks enough. Anyway, You're right,

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Speaker 1: we can make this thing. Here's what I'm gonna do, though,

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Speaker 1: I do want to talk first about a little news

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Speaker 1: Cowboys find out yesterday and actually this all started on

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Speaker 1: game day on Saturday. But there are now five players,

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Speaker 1: well four players and a coach for the Cowboys who

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Speaker 1: have been placed in the NFL's COVID nineteen Safety Protocol.

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Speaker 1: That would be dan Quinn the defensive coordinator, and then

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Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins, Ceedee Lamb, Malie Cooker and Israel muklmu Um.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean for their availability at this point

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Speaker 1: now that they're in the protocol. I mean it's hard

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Speaker 1: to answer that definitively because we don't you know, vaccination

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Speaker 1: and that makes it way easier, you know, dan quints

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn has to be um soum. So the protocol

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Speaker 1: if you're vaccinated is you need two negative tests within

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Speaker 1: negative tests twenty four hours, So if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: That brings up an interesting point. Obviously, guys like Ceedee

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of different scenarios. My question for you is,

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Speaker 1: The question is which was like, were they really battling

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Speaker 1: or was it a situation where Lyle maybe is just

427
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Speaker 1: rusty and it's gonna have to work back, and I

428
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Speaker 1: don't think it's a coincidence that Lyle's played more than

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Speaker 1: any of the starting five. I mean he played in Canton,

430
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Speaker 1: which is I mean, for guys on seventy million dollars

431
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Speaker 1: contracts don't play in the Hall of Fame game very often,

432
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Speaker 1: So I don't And you know, yeah, he's looked rusty

433
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Speaker 1: for a more like on and off throughout training camp.

434
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Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right, and he yeah, I think he

435
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Speaker 1: just needs time probably, But Darence was beaten more than Lyle.

436
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Speaker 1: So Rance has beaten a lot of guys turns on

437
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Speaker 1: other teams too. He beat up on Tyrn in practice

438
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Speaker 1: like a week ago, like he beat Tyrant two or

439
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Speaker 1: three times for SAX. So yeah, I don't want to

440
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Speaker 1: and I'm with you, Nick, I guess the point is

441
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Speaker 1: I don't want to hit the alarm button because I

442
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Speaker 1: implicitly trust these offensive linemen when they're healthy, to be good. Now,

443
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Speaker 1: healthy is more of an issue to me than rust.

444
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Speaker 1: I feel like they can work back from that. I

445
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Speaker 1: feel like they'll work into form. I feel like by

446
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Speaker 1: about week three four, this offensive line, as long as

447
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Speaker 1: they're healthy, will be clicking and you will see the

448
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Speaker 1: production that you expect to see from them. I do

449
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Speaker 1: think though right now, I'm a little bit like, okay,

450
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Speaker 1: I need to see that progression, like I need to

451
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Speaker 1: see you getting a little bit better and getting back

452
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Speaker 1: in that form. I would argue that they progressed in

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Speaker 1: that game. First possession looked awful, second possession not a

454
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Speaker 1: lot better. Third possession was rush and they just right

455
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Speaker 1: down the field. How long did the ones stay out

456
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Speaker 1: there on the offensive line? They were there for at

457
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Speaker 1: least two series with Cooper and they yeah, I mean,

458
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Speaker 1: and then scored two touch they you have to ask,

459
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know this. How long were the

460
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Speaker 1: defensive starters for Houston? And again, this is not That's

461
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: not a roster that should impress you, at least not

462
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Speaker 1: at the top. So, I mean, I get it, but

463
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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not that worried about the offensive line yet,

464
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: while still allowing that you are right that they haven't

465
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Speaker 1: looked up to the standard that we held for them.

466
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Speaker 1: But everybody standard. Everybody will help each other. You know,

467
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Speaker 1: Dak will help them, The line should help Dak zeke

468
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: vice versa. All that. So get all the pieces in,

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Speaker 1: let's see how it works. Let's talk a little bit

470
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Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks. Cooper Rush was ten of twelve ninety

471
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Speaker 1: seven yards passing two touchdowns. Karrett Gilbert was three of

472
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Speaker 1: five or thirty yards, zero touchdowns and also had a

473
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Speaker 1: fumble lost. Where do you think that backup QB battle

474
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Speaker 1: stands at this point? Can we just have a larger

475
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Speaker 1: conversation for a second about some of the decision making

476
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Speaker 1: that's happening here. Absolutely. I thought about it with Malie

477
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Speaker 1: Cooker as well. It's like, we don't want him. He's

478
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Speaker 1: not he's not in the offseason program, he's not part

479
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Speaker 1: of the install in the spring, and then like two

480
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Speaker 1: days into camp they're like, yeah, we want him, never mind.

481
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: And maybe he wasn't healthy, but like he could assigned

482
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Speaker 1: him and had him here training and getting up to snuff.

483
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Speaker 1: That's weird, weird that that was when they decided to

484
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Speaker 1: do it. Weird that they decided to work Connor Williams

485
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Speaker 1: at center two days into training camp, not during the

486
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Speaker 1: spring or any other time during the four years that

487
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Speaker 1: he's been here. And it's weird that this became a

488
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Speaker 1: quarterback competition a week before camp's over, because as sure

489
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Speaker 1: as hell, hasn't been up to this point. Am I

490
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Speaker 1: mistaken about that? Garrett Gilbert has been the guy? Is

491
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Speaker 1: that good? Sorry? I was going to ask this question.

492
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Speaker 1: Is that because up until this point, maybe they hadn't

493
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Speaker 1: seen enough from Cooper Rush had made them think he's

494
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Speaker 1: really battling for this position. They never gave him a shot.

495
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Speaker 1: I mean he was he never He had not taken

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Speaker 1: a rep with starters until he went into that game, right,

497
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Speaker 1: So what I'm saying like, is that not because maybe

498
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Speaker 1: something they've seen over the last week or two made

499
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Speaker 1: them say, hey, we ought to give him a shot.

500
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Speaker 1: And Gilbert wasn't having the great start there, so maybe

501
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Speaker 1: that that all kind of call ned in him getting

502
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Speaker 1: that shot, right, Maybe I did, maybe so like he

503
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Speaker 1: looked that amazing as the second string quarterback for enough

504
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Speaker 1: consecutive practices and then which you know, it sounds like

505
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Speaker 1: maybe that was their plan to give him more time.

506
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Speaker 1: But like the optics of Gilbert in the dress rehearsal game,

507
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Speaker 1: the optics of him getting yanked after two possessions certainly

508
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Speaker 1: made it look like he had done something wrong, which

509
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Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't look good, So that's a fair point,

510
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Speaker 1: But it just you know, again, like when you're you're

511
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Speaker 1: here every day looking at it and seeing who's taking

512
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Speaker 1: the first team reps, who's doing this in the walkthrough,

513
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Speaker 1: And there hasn't been a single indication this entire time

514
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Speaker 1: that it was much of a competition. Maybe those are

515
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Speaker 1: conversations that are different behind closed doors, but it's just

516
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Speaker 1: it's interesting to me, And to answer your question, I

517
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Speaker 1: don't know what the hell is going to happen. So

518
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: now Hooper's taken the first team reps all this week, supposedly,

519
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: you'd imagine he's going to play a lot against Jacksonville.

520
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: And this is huge because whoever's the backup, whoever is

521
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Speaker 1: not the backup, the likely do as they're not on

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Speaker 1: this team, right, yeah, I mean they could be on

523
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Speaker 1: the practice squad. True. I mean, because I think I

524
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Speaker 1: still think you can get those guys on the practice

525
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Speaker 1: squad if you don't want to put Denucci on there,

526
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Speaker 1: and uh, we'll get to him. Wow, We'll get to him. Wow.

527
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Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, I get it. He's not he's not Romo.

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Speaker 1: He's not he's not gonna be He's probably not gonna

529
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Speaker 1: be that. We we compared him a lot to it.

530
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Speaker 1: He's not there yet. But I mean if you want

531
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Speaker 1: to develop him, the practice squad and the scout team

532
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: is a good place to do it. Uh, he will have.

533
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Speaker 1: He will be more beneficial on the scout team than

534
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Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert or Cooper Rush if they are on it way,

535
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Speaker 1: because he's he's athletic. He helps you more. He helps

536
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Speaker 1: you more when the players that kick their ass, like

537
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Speaker 1: a Kyler Murray that runs all over the place or

538
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson that runs all over the place, he will

539
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Speaker 1: give them a better look for what they might see

540
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Speaker 1: than a guy I like Cooper Rush or Garrett Gilbert.

541
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Speaker 1: So in my opinion, I think he's the guy that

542
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Speaker 1: stays on those on the practice squad. And I think

543
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Speaker 1: if they whoever they cut between Gilbert or Rush, they

544
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Speaker 1: probably don't. That's my thought. That's I completely agree with you,

545
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Speaker 1: And if I had to guess, I wouldn't be surprised

546
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Speaker 1: if Tanuci winds up on the practice squad for that

547
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: very reason. You know they used to use after they

548
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: transition Jamille Showers to safety, they would use him as

549
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Speaker 1: the practice squad quarterback when they played a mobile quarterback

550
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: like that. Stuff's useful, and you know practice during the

551
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: season is not what we see out here, like, that's

552
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Speaker 1: not what you see in Oxnard. You know you're it's

553
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: it's basically a glorified walkthrough to give the team looks

554
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Speaker 1: at what the opposition does. Now, I will say this though,

555
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like every guy on the on

556
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Speaker 1: the roster, every guy on the every quarterback that they

557
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: face is going to be a running quarterback. So I

558
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: guess you do have to to ask the question, is

559
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: or is he going to give them a good look

560
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: with throwing the ball and beating this guy and all that,

561
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: because you know, because you got you got some of

562
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: those got a face. But again, like and we obviously

563
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Speaker 1: and bend Nucci has not been good. Let's be clear,

564
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: but the quality of the throw is not that important

565
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: in practice. I know that sounds stupid, but it's more about,

566
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Speaker 1: like what concepts are we looking at? What can the

567
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Speaker 1: quarterback do? Where's he going to throw the ball from,

568
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: where's the receiver on this particular play that they like

569
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Speaker 1: to run? Like whether or not the throw is worth

570
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: a crap isn't as important as giving the team a

571
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: look at what's going to happen on Sunday, if that

572
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: makes sense, and if a guy gets beat deep in

573
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Speaker 1: a scout team, Reggie Davis or whoever it is, has

574
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Speaker 1: got your guy beat and the ball's not there. I mean,

575
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: you know he was still beat. You still he was beat.

576
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Speaker 1: You still know that Denucci could throw it fifteen yards

577
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Speaker 1: over the guy's head and it looks like crap from

578
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Speaker 1: the outside, and the coaches are like, yeah, that's what

579
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: Russ is going to do on Sunday and it's gonna

580
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: be right where it needs to be. So now you know,

581
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: now you need kind of yeah, you can watch that

582
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: and see. But so, I mean, that's why, that's why

583
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: he could be beneficial. That's a reason right there. You

584
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: also for practice. All practice squad spots though, are also

585
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's a lot of ways to look

586
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: at it. If it's close between Gilbert and Rush, and

587
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: right now, we always we're going game by games, so

588
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: we think, oh, it's not close because Russia looks way better.

589
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: But let's say it is. Let's say it's pretty close.

590
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Because it has been a close competition. You know, you

591
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: can still put a guy on the practice squad and

592
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: then he's still in the mix for if something were

593
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: to happen to your quarterback. You could move him. You know,

594
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: Danucci's not playing any games so and he's not probably

595
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: a guy you're gonna have developed for the future. I

596
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: just don't I don't see it out of him. I

597
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: don't see anything that's not gonna say like he's gonna

598
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: do it. So I can make a case if I'm

599
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: in a debate class, and I wouldn't want to be

600
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: against you since you're a state champion, But if I'm

601
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: in the debate class, I could take the side to

602
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: keep in Denucci. I could also say, you're going to

603
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: Canada because that's what your career is. Keep him, keep

604
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: him meaning on the practice squad right, keep him meaning

605
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: on the problem he's not fit your back. I'm I

606
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: am sick of the over the top hate that de

607
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Nucci has been getting. And to be clear, he's been

608
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: really bad, but he's the fourth quarterback. Like but the

609
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: venom that people build up for this guy, well, that's

610
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: also because you gotta understand the nuance to that, because

611
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: people feel like it was a pick that was made

612
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: out of personal relationship more so than out of out

613
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: of out of the guy's ability, and so far on

614
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: the field, you haven't seen the ability he was picked

615
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: ten spots from the ship just because they went to Pittsburgh.

616
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: Like that, that the narrative. I'll tell you this, that's

617
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: what you see on that. I think that's what you

618
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: see on social media. A lot of the narrative is

619
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: still here. McCarthy has a tie to him because they're

620
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh and he knows his like youth basketball coach.

621
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Speaker 1: That's that's the narrative. And again I'm not saying that

622
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: right here. Then I'm not saying that narrative is right.

623
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is what I'm saying is that's why

624
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: the venom is out there. So just understand that's why

625
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: people are acting in the way they We're talking about

626
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: a guy that was picked like ten spots from the

627
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: end of the draft. I I just and not like

628
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: nobody's a bigger draft geek than me, but like, I

629
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: don't understand how people can work up that much emotion

630
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: about players who don't matter. Basically that I mean, and

631
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: no offense to men. But now if he manages to

632
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: get up to where they thought, for what for any reason,

633
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: they thought he was the backup quarterback, then he does matter.

634
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: But that's my point. It's like it's not going to happen, right,

635
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: And even I'm sitting here defending Ben d Nucci. If

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Speaker 1: he's on the fifty three, I will free you're ready,

637
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Speaker 1: I will be ready to be mad. If he's on

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Speaker 1: the fifth. I think we all agree on that. That

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah. Anyway, Um, I'll step out on a

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Speaker 1: limb and say, the backup quarterback is on this roster

641
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Speaker 1: for better or for worse. I agree with you, because

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Speaker 1: there's not going to be There won't be somebody available

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Speaker 1: that they're willing to pay for, Like you're not going

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Speaker 1: to trade for somebody from Chicago. If they get cut,

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Speaker 1: they're probably gonna have a better market than what the

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Speaker 1: cowboys are gonna be willing to pay. They're Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: said it this morning, like they are. They are bending

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Speaker 1: over backward to let you know that their investment is

649
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Speaker 1: in the starter. They're like, well, what can you do

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Speaker 1: when you pay? I think, but it's it's harder. It

651
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: is much harder. I acknowledge that if you're a backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback that is available and he's got some experience, and

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Speaker 1: let's say he's got some interest from other teams, when

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Speaker 1: you're looking at your options and the money is going

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Speaker 1: to factor into it as well. But let's just say

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Speaker 1: that it kind of it's about even you think that

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are an intriguing team for that for that player

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Speaker 1: with with Dak coming off an ankle and career, with

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Speaker 1: Dak has a shoulder, you know, a strain, and that

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Speaker 1: he's missed all the training camp. I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: look at it and go up, man, I could come

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Speaker 1: here and maybe because Andy Dalton came to Dallas knowing

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Speaker 1: that Dak could never missed the game ever, and then

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Speaker 1: he plays a lot and that that helped him that

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00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: game that got him more money. It doesn't look like

666
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: it's going to happen, but man like and not in

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Speaker 1: like a like I'm not reveling in somebody's misfortune. But

668
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: it would just be kind of funny if Dalton was

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Speaker 1: I do have that house in Dallas, like it could happen.

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Speaker 1: It's not, you just never know, but that would be

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Speaker 1: that would be pretty shocked. So I don't think the

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Speaker 1: be willing to pay. Probably some team at the beginning

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Speaker 1: It's just the nature of the NFL. So if he's

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Speaker 1: going to that team to be their presumptive starter than

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Speaker 1: he would make as a backup that's got signed at

681
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: the end of training camp for the Cowboys. We're not

682
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Speaker 1: right about a lot, but I just I vividly remember,

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Speaker 1: we're not right about everything, is what I should say.

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Speaker 1: But I vividly remember, like December, before last season was

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Speaker 1: come to an under They're gonna come to an agreement

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Speaker 1: with that. They're gonna pay him and Garrett Gilbert will

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Speaker 1: I mean, it might be Cooper Rush, but that's what's

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Speaker 1: people have fanny packs, do they? Yeah? Were one to run.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's more it's not like what you're imagining.

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Speaker 1: It's like slimmer, but like I put my phone in it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I asked Dave about it. I said, you have a

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Speaker 1: fanni pack? Is a training camp? And You're like, yeah, what?

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Speaker 1: I was like, it's I used to like a little

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Speaker 1: all that stupid stuff. You don't carry a water bottle

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Speaker 1: be out running, just drink when I get I don't

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the thing. Fanny packs are cool. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't go as far as I do, You're I

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Speaker 1: don't really question it anymore because I don't. I do

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Speaker 1: think they're I think they're more back than they used

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Speaker 1: there with the fan club. No, they may need to

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Speaker 1: final the s WBC Morgan Studios. At the start, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the defense to Broll Cox, he continues to

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00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: impress here in the preseason, how much do you how

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00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: much do you anticipate he will play at linebacker when

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00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: the regular season begins? Or is he really just trying

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00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: to make this team and he's probably gonna be a

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00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: special teams guy for now? He ain't trying to make Jack.

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Speaker 1: He's on he's on the D he's been on the team. Um,

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00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean he's making a case for why he should play.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to make the numbers worked to be honest

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Speaker 1: with I mean, we do we want to do that.

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Speaker 1: You want to do this? Yet, we'll take that. You

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Speaker 1: want to talk about I think number nine, we'll talk

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00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: about that. And I think you keep six linebackers active

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Speaker 1: to the game, wow, to the game? Okay, yeah? Is that?

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Speaker 1: I thought five was normal to the game. Six It's

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Speaker 1: fine if two of them are going to be core

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Speaker 1: special teams guys, which I believe Gifford and Cox will be.

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Speaker 1: So do you think Gifford's gonna make the teams? I

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Speaker 1: think I think you keep six. For sure, I would

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Speaker 1: put them on. I think who I mean Francis Bernard

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Speaker 1: as he played No, But I'm looking at some other

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Speaker 1: positions where I'm looking at other positions. This is not

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Speaker 1: about linebacker. This is about I'm worried about being able

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Speaker 1: to what my cut's gonna be on the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about the secondary. What the number I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: need to keep there? Um, I think there are some

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Speaker 1: positions you maybe you want that six wide receiver. I

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00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: think there are a number of positions on this team

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Speaker 1: where I'm like, I think I might want an extra guy. Linebackers,

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Speaker 1: one where I feel like it's a luxury to have

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Speaker 1: an extra guy because I think five give me a

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Speaker 1: lot of Like, I think I can get a lot

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Speaker 1: out of those five. I hear you, but I mean

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Speaker 1: this is a I don't think to a backup at

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Speaker 1: each spot is really deep. I mean, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: play even if you play four three, if you play

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Speaker 1: four to three, that's a backup at each spot. That's

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00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: not you know, three linebackers, six guys. That's not overly deep,

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Speaker 1: even especially if you play a three fourth game, even

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00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: though some of those ends would be defensive pass rushers.

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Speaker 1: I think six is a solid number. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's it's heavy. I think it's probably just I mean,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into next Monday, we're gonna do a show,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try to cut the roster, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's when we can really kind of break those things down.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dave, I just you know, fifty three players,

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Speaker 1: twenty five offense, twenty five defense, three specialists. My guests

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Speaker 1: would just be you can go heavier on defense with

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Speaker 1: this roster, Like, I think the offensive positions are going

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00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: to look a lot lighter. Two quarterbacks, three running backs.

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Speaker 1: Could probably even get away with having two if you

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Speaker 1: really wanted to, because I mean doubt all goes to

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Speaker 1: the practice squad or whatever. But three running backs, three

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00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: tight ends for sure, Like, I can't think of why

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Speaker 1: you would need more than that, And if Connor Williams

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00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: is your sinner, you could even maybe get away with

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Speaker 1: going light at offensive line. I get that that might

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Speaker 1: bother people, but haven't seen anything from Terren Steel and

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Speaker 1: Tie and Seki that makes you think that they gotta

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Speaker 1: have both. So you know, maybe you could even go

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Speaker 1: eight or nine on the offensive line instead of nine

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Speaker 1: or ten, and then that opens you up you can

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Speaker 1: go heavy at every defensive position, and I think they should. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Millie Cooker. He's got his first action

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. What'd you guys see from him? I

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Speaker 1: agree with what you said that. I agree with what

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Speaker 1: you said that. Brian said that, you know, he looked

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Speaker 1: like he was getting reacclimated. I thought, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think of him as a coverage guy. It was a

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00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: nice tackle. He laid on that receiver going over the middle,

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Speaker 1: like one of the first plays of the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: He also came flying in on run support in the

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Speaker 1: middle of a like it was just behind the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. No, I don't know if he was feeling

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Speaker 1: great after that play. He kind of maybe got the

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Speaker 1: worst of it, but he was. He was in there.

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Speaker 1: He was in the especially for a guy that's free safety.

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Speaker 1: I look at that position. I've always thought the safety position,

845
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Speaker 1: especially in the last fifteen twenty years, is an interchangeable spot.

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00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I think gone are the days that you've

847
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: got the you know, hard hitting Ronnie Lott guy, and

848
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: you've got your ball hawking safety. That's a free safety.

849
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of them can kind

850
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: of play both roles. So sorry, I think Barry, like

851
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: Barry Church was, you know, Kean O'Neill, I'm sure was

852
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: more of a strong safety and all that. But these

853
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: guys can do multiple things. So I do think Kauzee

854
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: and Hooker could both play together if they're out there,

855
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: and Donovan Wilson too. That's it was either our mail

856
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: bag today or yesterday. But somebody was like, well, mail

857
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: ban couldn't Kazy and Hooker conceivably play at the same time.

858
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, I don't expect that

859
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: to happen, because you got you want to find a

860
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: way to get Donovan Wilson on the field. And again,

861
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, they are interchangeable, but one I think is

862
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: still a little bit more physical than the other. But

863
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: I definitely think that's something that could happen. And they

864
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: also used the three safety look at one point during

865
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: that game, so you could have the two of him

866
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: out there with Donovan Wilson. So that's that's interesting, you know.

867
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: I it's easy to just think of it as, yeah,

868
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: like he's a free so he's got to play free,

869
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: and that's not necessarily true. So talking to me about

870
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: Bradley and I I think he had a there was

871
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: one play I remember specifically. It was a really nice

872
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: tackle for a loss. He had He kind of kind

873
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: of stone wall the defensive I think it was either

874
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: a tight end or a or a tackle. I was

875
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: trying to move him and he kind of kept the

876
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: edge on him, set the edge and then makes the

877
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: tackle behind a line of scrimmage. My question for you

878
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: guys is is there a room for him if the

879
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to have Chauncey Gholston on the final

880
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: roster without moving him to some sort of pup or

881
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: I R or whatever like that. Is there room for

882
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: him actually to make this team? I don't think so.

883
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see. I mean, I forget the room.

884
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: How about the need? Is there a need for him

885
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: to be on the team. I don't. I mean, other

886
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: than you want to keep developing him, But I mean,

887
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's a practice squad guy.

888
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: If he gets claimed, he gets he gets claimed. I mean,

889
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: I and less you think he's better than bash him,

890
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: which I don't think that they think that way. I

891
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 1: don't think that's Dorn's armstrong. I believe is better than Bashaim,

892
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: or at least he's showing that. Either way. Those are

893
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: your third and fourth pass rushers. And I think when

894
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, I think they're gonna keep

895
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith on the team. I think Jaalen Smith is

896
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: going to be more of a pass rusher than any

897
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: other thing. And I think he's a guy that rushes

898
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: off the edge more than he does anything else. Have

899
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: we seen him doing a lot of that? So far.

900
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: I think I've seen more Parsons doing that than him, right,

901
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Jalen doing him out. That means neither

902
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: have the Bucks, neither have the Chargers, neither have I mean,

903
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Smith will be rushing in the pastor

904
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: I think that you gotta if you're gonna keep him,

905
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: and I think that's an if. But if you're gonna

906
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: keep him, you gotta figure out where to play him.

907
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: And I think he's a straight line runner. I don't

908
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: think he's a backpeddler. I don't think he's a side

909
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: to side. I don't think he's a reactor. I think

910
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: he's a go get the guy, use your god given

911
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: ability to go up there and smash someone. That's a

912
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: lot of money to be your fifth that's pass rusher.

913
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: That part of it's not even that was in March.

914
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: They decided in March he was worth it and a

915
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: lot of money. So he's gonna be a lot of

916
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: money whether or not he's on this to football team

917
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: or another football team or nowhere. I mean, it's a

918
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: lot of money. So now you got to figure out that.

919
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean that Hays in the barn on that. Now

920
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: you got to figure out where to play him. And

921
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: I think he's a pass rusher more than anybody. But

922
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying though, is like here, here,

923
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: what you're saying, But when does he get that opportunity?

924
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: Who are you going to take off the field to say, yeah,

925
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: put him out there to do that when he's the

926
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: fifth best guy, sixth best guy, Maybe that does that

927
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: on your team. Well not only that, which sorry and

928
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: I've been saying that for two years, but like watching

929
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: him in the preseason, I'm like, it's even fast enough

930
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: to rush the quarter I don't know. I don't know

931
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: that he is he even fast enough to rush the

932
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: quarterback right now? No, you're right, you're right, And that's

933
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: why you know. It's it's like, you know, like when

934
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: they do when they go to two tight ends. I

935
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: mean there's a reason, and they do it because they

936
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: want to be able to show you could run, we

937
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: could pass out of this. You don't know what we're doing.

938
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to be that element where he can

939
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: pull back and be in coverage, you know, hold your breath,

940
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: or he's gonna be rushed the passer on. But again,

941
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: I think there are other guys that do that better

942
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: already on this team, Which that's why I'm like talking

943
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: about you're talking about the armstrong bash him and well

944
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: if you're talking about that can also pull out, I

945
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: mean they also you know, drop it to coverage thing

946
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: also drop it to coverag I'm talking about Parsons obviously,

947
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: Like he's the guy that also can drop into coverage,

948
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: he can blitz, he can do all that. So why

949
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: would I want to put Jalen in that type of

950
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 1: position when I got a guy who does that extremely well, Well,

951
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: just because they can do it from a different way,

952
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: because he could do it and from the middle of

953
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: the field linebacker, he can move back into the line.

954
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just there's different aspects of it. And

955
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: you're talking about guys that are like pass rushers that

956
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: I think there's an element of surprise that he could

957
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: blitz or he could he could you know, pull back

958
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: into coverage. I just never, honestly, and we've talked about this,

959
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: I know both of you guys have talked about this.

960
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: I've never really seen Jalen be a really good pass

961
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: rushing all right, I've seen I've seen him rushed before,

962
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: and i've seen most of the time he gets washed out.

963
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: So I'm all right, I'm gonna railroad the show. Okay,

964
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: But so what do you want to do. You're you're

965
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: your business, You're a business savvy guy. Here, You've already

966
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: spent nine million dollars on it. You've already you've already

967
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: bought this car or this house, and it leaks oil. Okay,

968
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: what do you want to do with it? You've already

969
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: bought it, and you can't sell it. Here's my thing.

970
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I want to take it out for

971
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: a drive if I know it's gonna break down while

972
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm out on the drive. So it's one of those

973
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: things where I may have already sunk the cost. And

974
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: if that's the case, I'll keep it in parked in

975
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: my driveway. It's gonna look good my driveway. People are

976
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: gonna drive by, they're gonna say that guy is a

977
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: great car. But at the end of the day, I'm

978
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: not driving it because I don't want to necessarily break down.

979
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: I hate breaking down while I'm out, and that means

980
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: I gotta call somebody come pick me up, toe the

981
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: thing back to my house so we can look pretty.

982
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: Now it's gonna look pretty on the back of the

983
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: told truck. I'm sorry, I'm just not that's not my thing.

984
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: This sounds like this sounds like I had set him

985
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: up for this earlier that and did not that was

986
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: great saying like that. I don't see him as being

987
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: And again, I know sometimes it comes off as with

988
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: bashon Jalen. I'm not trying to bash Jalen. I'm looking

989
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: at this training camp and I'm looking at all these

990
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: linebackers they got, and they got a ton of linebackers

991
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: that can play. I don't think Jalen is better than him.

992
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: I think right now Jalen is fourth. No, I'm sorry,

993
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: he's probably fifth best linebacker on this team. I don't

994
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: think you make a role for him if he's not

995
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: the best one to do that role. In my opinion,

996
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily disagree with anything you're saying. I'm not

997
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm mister Bayou Bengal. I'm not ready to put Cox

998
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: over him, just in the sense that you know, he's

999
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: playing backups. It's still the preseason and he's been great.

1000
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready to

1001
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: say that it's upside. Of course, it's there. Yeah. Well,

1002
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: but but ahead, that's beside the point. Even at best,

1003
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: he's still the fourth linebacker on this team. And yeah,

1004
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Cowboys need to have the

1005
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: guts to limit him to like a role that would

1006
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: see him on the field thirty percent of the time

1007
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: or less. Honestly, So here's a question, you won't I think.

1008
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I didn't say that they wouldn't.

1009
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: I just they need to have the guts to do.

1010
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: But but here's the question. So that all being said,

1011
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: name a role where he is at least third best

1012
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: on this team at that role or I mean I

1013
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: don't that's whatever, but early early down's base package. If

1014
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: he wants if they if you want to put him

1015
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: out there as the sam in situations where do you

1016
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: feel confident that they're going to run the ball, that's okay.

1017
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: He can still do some of the third best. I

1018
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't put him third bas best, But I mean, who

1019
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: who would would you put over? I mean, I think

1020
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: I would take Neil over him. I can. I mean,

1021
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: because my issue with Jalen is more I don't think

1022
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: he I don't think his pre snap I didnification of

1023
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: what's going on is great. I think he takes a

1024
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: lot of false steps and then I think he can't recover.

1025
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: So goal line, I need you to know what's coming,

1026
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: and I need you to hit it quick because you

1027
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: don't have much time to react, like you gotta get

1028
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: there quick in order to keep the guy from getting

1029
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: in the end zone. So again, I'm just having a

1030
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: hard time finding where I think he is the best

1031
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: at a role, second best at a role, even third

1032
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: best at a role. If it which means somebody has

1033
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: to come off to Phil that's better than him. If

1034
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: it's early down and they're in big personnel, I'm I

1035
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: can live with. He's got to be better than Neil

1036
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: of getting hit by a defensive end. Yeah, he's more.

1037
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: I mean he's a he's a bigger player. He can

1038
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: hold up against some of that better. And I mean,

1039
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: no knock on it, he's got to do it though.

1040
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: He can't go around the other side, because that's that's

1041
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: one thing that's a knock on him, and we're seeing it.

1042
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: He goes. He avoids the big blockers at times, and

1043
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: that sounds good because that's doesn't hurt as much. But

1044
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: you've just you've just created a huge gap because that

1045
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: guy just took you where you wanted to go. I'll

1046
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: give you one area where I do think he is

1047
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: really valuable to having this team. Don't say it what

1048
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, availability, Like, you can't argue it's availability.

1049
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: You got a lot of guys that have not been

1050
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: available at that position. He's been available, so that that's

1051
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: matters in the NFL. Can't you be available? I've had

1052
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: that be the reason why he needs to be here.

1053
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: I've had that argument with a million people of like

1054
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: and nobody's trying to say Jalen is amazing or should

1055
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: be starting with all these other options. But with what

1056
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: this team has been through, it's not a bad thing

1057
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: to have a guy who's played a thousand snaps in

1058
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: the season as your top option if somebody gets hurt, right,

1059
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: because the likely is that somebody will, which and that's

1060
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this a lot. It's it's interesting

1061
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: I get that, and I hit me the other day

1062
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: where I was like, if they were to cut him,

1063
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: it says like, not only is he not one of

1064
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: their three or four best linebackers, they also have such

1065
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: a low opinion of him that it would be a

1066
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: problem for the team and the development of the team

1067
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: that they're like, this guy want to go, He's got

1068
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: to go. He is a problem. If he's not starting,

1069
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: he will make life miserable for everybody. That is the

1070
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: signal that it sends if they were to cut him.

1071
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: And I'm not one hundred percent like, I don't think

1072
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: that's the case. I don't think that that would happen.

1073
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: And so does it suck that you're paying seven and

1074
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: a half million dollars for a backup? Absolutely? But what

1075
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: depth isn't a bad thing? Well, I mean, all you

1076
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: have to do is listen to Jerry Jones talk this

1077
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: morning on the Fan one or five three. He was

1078
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: asked specifically about Jalen Smith's role, and his four minute

1079
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: answer about the depth of the linebacker did not ever

1080
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: include Jalen Smith by name at all. That was alarming

1081
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: to me because because now you're like, you're not even

1082
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: mentioning the question was about Jalen and then you just

1083
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: talked about the depth, which means I'm not talking about him.

1084
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: We've got depth, which means maybe we are. Maybe he's

1085
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: not in the debt And I don't know, I don't ever,

1086
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: you never you will get very You're getting a very

1087
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: tough situation. You ever start trying to figure out what

1088
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: Jerry's meaning by what he says and doesn't say. But

1089
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: that that was something that stood out to me too

1090
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: when I heard the response. But ultimately, I just think

1091
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: it comes back to and I'm a big believer, and

1092
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: once you got a guy on your team, it doesn't

1093
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: matter the amount of money, you play them where you

1094
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: need to play him. I'm just having a hard time

1095
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: figuring out what is the role where I'm like, he's

1096
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: my right option to be out there as opposed to

1097
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: somebody else, And I'm having a hard time finding that

1098
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: for him. That's going to be the challenge for these

1099
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: coaches or you know, shoot I personally, if he doesn't

1100
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: play snaps sometimes that's fine with me. Again, like the

1101
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: money's keep getting an active guy. I doubt that you've

1102
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: just been saying you want to make six act six

1103
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: linebackers active. If he's playing special teams, obviously he can

1104
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: get on the field playing special teams, you would think

1105
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: I don't think you would, hope, So I think I

1106
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: think you'd just probably release. I think you would release.

1107
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: That's if I mean, if it were to get to

1108
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: a point where Jalen Smith isn't getting a jersey on

1109
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: game day and then yeah, that's that. That would be

1110
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 1: a huge drop. I have a hard time just thinking

1111
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: that happens, because it's just going from being the contract

1112
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: he's got to being like the every down starter. Did

1113
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: he play the most nouns any defender last year? Absolutely?

1114
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: He was the only defender who was available every week.

1115
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: Right to go from that to then just like just

1116
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: like that and not actually getting any benefit from cutting him,

1117
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: Like you're not making any money back by cutting him

1118
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: like that all seems a little bit like I don't

1119
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: expect that the hi any of paying a half million

1120
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: dollars for a jersey you don't wear. She got stop.

1121
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's you ever you like roller coasters

1122
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: at all? Yes, I do. That's not like they got

1123
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: well a good point. They got this thing at Cedar

1124
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: Point in Ohio called top Thrilled Dragster. It's nine seconds.

1125
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: It just goes four hundred feet in the air and

1126
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: straight back down. That's jails my kind of thing. Oh,

1127
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: I want to go real Cedar Points high on my

1128
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: bucket list. But that's that's that's Jalan's career trajectory unfortunately. Wow,

1129
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean you thought he might not ever play again,

1130
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 1: and then he just should have been a pro bowler.

1131
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, signs an eight you know, seventy million

1132
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: dollar contract, and now we're talking about if he'll even

1133
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 1: get a jersey on game day. That. I mean, that's insane,

1134
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: that right, we're talking about it. I'm not sure coaches are.

1135
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: So let's be clear. The fact is we're hearing from

1136
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: the from we are not hearing it. The fact that

1137
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: we are even idly debating it about a guy on

1138
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: that contract is nuts. Yeah, that's true. That ride probably

1139
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: you know they've run that multiple times in a day, Yeah,

1140
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: in an hour. Yeah, so that's what his hope is,

1141
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: get back on the ride. Yeah up there, back up

1142
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: there again. Yeah, his career could just be a bunch

1143
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: of those kind of ups. And it could be. And

1144
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: if it is, then that that's it'll it'll it'll make people,

1145
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, pissed off all the time, because I mean,

1146
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, that's Tony Romo's career. It's interesting. Oh

1147
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't low, I don't know, not that it was.

1148
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a longer ride Tony Romo was That's

1149
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. His career, that was his whole career.

1150
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: Was that? Okay, I mean I've been thinking about I

1151
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: actually got you know, I did one of those YouTube

1152
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: rabbit holes the other day. Broncos Cowboys twenty thirteen. Yeah,

1153
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: that was a good game. It was a great game. Yeah.

1154
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: There he had a chance, he had the ball. It

1155
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: was forty eight, forty eight. He's sitting at five h

1156
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 1: six in the passing yards the record for all times,

1157
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: five to sixty one, get your team in field goal,

1158
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: arrange to go win the game, and you win fifty

1159
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: one forty eight. The Broncos, they were defeated. They're undefeated,

1160
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: but they were. They were the best they were. They

1161
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: set the record. All the best offensive takes him down

1162
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: the field and scores a touch or agreets the field goal.

1163
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna get about sixty yards passing, no running.

1164
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: At that point, you're gonna you're gonna set the all

1165
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: time passing record. You're gonna outdule pet Manning and you're

1166
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: gonna beat him. Fifty one to forty eight. He could

1167
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: have been considered right then and there without playoffs. Six

1168
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: just I mean he's right on with that top level,

1169
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: top five. Whatever he throws a pick, he wastes his

1170
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: great two thousand and six, he comes in, he's the star.

1171
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: All the he fumbles a snap in Seattle sounds like

1172
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: a book. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, that is

1173
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: his career, all these great moments. But it was his

1174
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: interception against Washington in the twenty twelve season finale. Dave

1175
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: still remembers and didn't even work here then, didn't I

1176
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: remember that I didn't have an opinion on Tony Romo

1177
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: at that time. People that love Romo have these twelve plays.

1178
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: The people that hate him have these twelve plays, right,

1179
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 1: that's his career, yes, Channel Jalen's not at that point.

1180
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he hadn't done that. He needs the twelve

1181
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: plays over here. But he's got a few, but he

1182
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: needs more of them. But I mean, maybe that his

1183
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: career can be like that. We haven't seen it yet.

1184
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: I just I don't. It's it's it's hard to watch

1185
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: him play and imagine that he's gonna get back to

1186
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: that level. He just I hope he does. Hope he does.

1187
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: All dude, he's rooting again to Jalen Smith, at least

1188
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: not in this room. Yeah, but he just looks like

1189
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: he's lost about three steps from twenty eighteen. Yeah, and

1190
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I really I agree with your premise. I

1191
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: do think it's it will be a smart idea if

1192
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: these coaches can figure out a role for him that

1193
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: makes sense, because I think it would be better for

1194
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: the team that you have a guy like that that

1195
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: has some kind of role. I'm just having a hard

1196
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: time figuring that one out. And obviously they are much

1197
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: smarter about this kind of stuff than I am. So

1198
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: that's why they're paid those books, is to figure that

1199
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: part out. But I'm just having a hard time figuring

1200
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: out where he fits. I just think that's kind of

1201
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: what makes it easier for me, is the fact that

1202
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: the money, the money is locked in, Like you're can't

1203
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: improve the team by getting rid of him. And so

1204
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: if he's just depth, like I said, it's not ideal,

1205
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: but it's better than Jayleen Smith. If he's your best

1206
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: linebacker coming off the bench, that's better than a lot

1207
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: of teams have in terms of depth. Yeah. Absolutely, that's

1208
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: not the end of the world. All right, guys, appreciate

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00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: you joining us. We'll be back on Thursday, and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about Cowboys. Get you guys

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Speaker 1: ready action for Cowboys versus Jaguars still then for Nick even,

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