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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang on today's show. It may not count,

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Speaker 1: but it certainly matters preseason football. That's right, Game number

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Speaker 1: one is coming up on Friday. What do we want

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Speaker 1: to see? Who are we most interested in? Scene? But first,

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Speaker 1: the shuffling of the roster continues. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode four fifty two, and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot Com, Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand to

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Speaker 1: catch in a touchdown, DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and

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Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. So there always seems to be that one

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Speaker 1: position group in training camp that gets infected with the

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Speaker 1: injury bug. Now, how much of the infection do we know?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the big unknown right now, and

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Speaker 1: right now it is the defensive line MJ that has

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Speaker 1: been hit hardest. Now how hard I guess is the

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Speaker 1: more apt way because Cliff Kingsbury, as we've discussed here

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Speaker 1: on previous episodes of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyunday,

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Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Not very forthcoming. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be here in preseason in training camp.

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Speaker 1: But the defensive line room added four players excuse me,

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Speaker 1: added three new players within the last twenty four hours,

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Speaker 1: So thirteen players in that room. And we know they're

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Speaker 1: going to keep what maybe six or seven so half

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Speaker 1: that mini. Yeah, and I think this is an great

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Speaker 1: And you know, we'll see how much they go with

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Speaker 1: two or three lineman. The good news is besides Xavier

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Speaker 1: target day for all these guys. And you know, the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals will break camp on the twenty sixth, and then

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Speaker 1: they'll start getting into the After the twenty eighth or

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Speaker 1: to get into game mode and start preparing for the opener.

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Speaker 1: You don't wanted the game plan to get stale, so

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Speaker 1: that's when I anticipate all these guys gonna be back

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury feels like he'll be back. They like that competition

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Speaker 1: idea he could have been the starter, considering the relationship

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Speaker 1: You look at you know, Josh Morrow, he could put

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Speaker 1: I don't know too much about Jake Crawford, Jack Crawford,

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Speaker 1: Demetrius Harris, and we talked about this problem. Let's just

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Speaker 1: the names that we won't see during the preseason opener.

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Speaker 1: JJ Watts not gonna play, No one's announced that. But

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips is not going to play. I'd be surprised

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Speaker 1: those are those are your top four defensive linemen that

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Speaker 1: But there is room as far as you brought up

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Speaker 1: And then you know Jack Crawford six two eighty eight,

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for those three players, if not for the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: because right now they need bodies to play, much like

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Speaker 1: he starts practicing. Now. I know it's in cran Or

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Speaker 1: But clearly Kylie Fitz has had a good camp. He

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Speaker 1: but I don't have all the names. I have just

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Speaker 1: uh where school they went to? Yeah, so, but Sean Williams,

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Speaker 1: he could be on that punt protector team and he'll

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Speaker 1: be uh, you know, a back up with Banjoe at

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Speaker 1: the position. Now, what happens with Deonte Thompson, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's got to stay healthy. Jalen Thompson looks

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Speaker 1: the part. I mean, he's he's become more physical. He

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Speaker 1: can see he's more um um. He's adjusted to the

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Speaker 1: game and the speed of the game. And we're working

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Speaker 1: next to booters. So on paper, I really like the secondary.

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Speaker 1: I like the corners, and I know that said they're

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Speaker 1: healthy right now. Obviously Robert Olfer is going to be

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Speaker 1: the guy we're looking at. But you know, going into

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Speaker 1: that game, and we're probably gonna see two tight end sets.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have two corners out there, and that's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be Byron Murphy and Malcolm Butler. Yeah, and again,

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Speaker 1: how much will we see those players and it was

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Speaker 1: gonna be big because I do think, regardless if it's

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Speaker 1: this week, next week against the Chiefs or the Saints,

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Speaker 1: that these young players, the draft picks, the second year,

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Speaker 1: third year players, and maybe even some veterans are hoping

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Speaker 1: to catch on. Whether it's with the Cardinals or someone else,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be looking at playing an entire half, maybe

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Speaker 1: even the last three quarters of a ballgame. Because yes,

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Speaker 1: there's time between now and the regular season, but I

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Speaker 1: just these coaches, it's all about week one and they

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Speaker 1: know what they have mainly with what maybe you say,

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Speaker 1: forty forty five players, maybe even more so, and you

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Speaker 1: just don't want anyone to get hurt, even if it's

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Speaker 1: just you're getting banged up, regardless of how much time

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Speaker 1: you have between now and the start of the regular season,

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Speaker 1: I just you hit fast forward on some of these

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Speaker 1: players and on the others that you're trying to evaluate

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Speaker 1: and see if you've got someone that can develop, whether

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Speaker 1: it's this year, next year, or down the road. That's

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Speaker 1: where preason really plays a large part. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: why I think Marco Wilson is going to excel on

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Speaker 1: special teams now. He could play inside and outside we

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Speaker 1: know Murphy can play inside and outside, and Deniard was

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Speaker 1: having a good camp, but you got to be on

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Speaker 1: the field, so they could keep four or five. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they're going to try to address that position with another

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Speaker 1: veteran guy. I know they got Whorley in here, but again,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have some depth there. But there I think

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Speaker 1: Tay Gowen impossibly another can go on the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: But the main thing is is, you know, Marco Wilson's

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Speaker 1: if he's active, he's going to be a depth guy,

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Speaker 1: just like Sean Williams, and he's going to play on

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Speaker 1: special teams and that's one one role. And then Keishaw Johnson,

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Speaker 1: as I talked about earlier, he's actually and he had

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Speaker 1: a good observation the other day when he said he

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Speaker 1: wanted more reps because that's not an easy position to play.

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Speaker 1: Trent sherfield and mastered it towards the end. And then

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Speaker 1: he went to San Francisco because they said he would

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Speaker 1: get get more of an opportunity as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's the replacement. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see when Dennis Carter to come to Zack,

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Speaker 1: because he's gonna earn some playing time on defense, and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna obviously be one of their weapons when it

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Speaker 1: comes to covering kicks. Five wide receivers most likely active

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Speaker 1: on game day, but it's that fifth receiver who has

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Speaker 1: to play special teams, and what we've seen from Keishawn

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Speaker 1: Johnson is trying to be Trent Sherfield and it's big

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Speaker 1: shoes to fill. You know. Sherfield didn't get a lot

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Speaker 1: of attention as far as the offense was concerned. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: it happens with him with the forty nine ers, but

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Speaker 1: he was vital for assistant head coach and special teams

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Speaker 1: coordinator Jeff Rogers as far as special teams and everything

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Speaker 1: he could do. So they are worly working hard on

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Speaker 1: Keishawn Johnson, especially at the gunner spots. And I noticed

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Speaker 1: this on Tuesday's practice. Devin Fitzsimmons, the assistant to Jeff Rogers,

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Speaker 1: the assistant special teams coach, they were working at different

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Speaker 1: parts of the field and they were working on running

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Speaker 1: down field the gunner and trying to get separation because

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Speaker 1: beat somebody, whether that's an inside move or go to

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Speaker 1: the outside. But they had gone through their entire you know,

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Speaker 1: who wants another rep? And Keishan raised his hand without hesitation,

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Speaker 1: and they had another rep. And it just showed one

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Speaker 1: his desire to learn and his knowledge, I think in

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Speaker 1: the back of his head, like, look, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not at the position of my career to where I

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Speaker 1: can just be a wide receiver. I have to do

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Speaker 1: something else. So if you can fill that trench sheerfield

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Speaker 1: spot with a Keishawan Johnson, now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you've got your wide receiver room with Hopkins, Green, Kirk,

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Speaker 1: and Moore. With Keishawn Johnson being number five and active

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Speaker 1: on game day. What happens after that as far as

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Speaker 1: number six, I think that's gonna be fascinating to find out.

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Speaker 1: Because Isabella on COVID protocol for the second time in camp,

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Speaker 1: that's perhaps might hurt his chances. And then you've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys who have been making plays and flashing.

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Speaker 1: Now do they flash when the lights come on? And

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Speaker 1: that preseason an opener coming up on Friday, so pay attention.

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Speaker 1: If nothing else, everyone focuses on the offense and defense

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Speaker 1: and the daughters. But if you want to know exactly

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Speaker 1: who this team believes in and thinks that they can

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Speaker 1: count on, come Week one, find out who's playing special

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Speaker 1: teams exactly now according to the depth chart, Isabella to me,

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Speaker 1: as long as he continues to flash. Now he's in

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Speaker 1: protocol right now, I think he'll be your sixth receiver

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Speaker 1: whether he's in sweats. But as interesting, they have Isabella

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Speaker 1: behind Aje Green. Now we know that Isabella's role this

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Speaker 1: year is inside and outside, so you know, again Ajan

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Speaker 1: Green's obviously much taller receiver, more strider, fifty fifty balls

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Speaker 1: coming back for the ball. But if you get that

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Speaker 1: second or third corner and Isabella take your shot, and

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Speaker 1: then they have for Scelli, so he's third behind Green

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Speaker 1: and Isabella. And then the other side they got Christian Kirk,

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Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, Joe Joejoe Award, so those are more slot

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Speaker 1: guys to take the top off the defense. And behind

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Speaker 1: Hopkins they got Keyshawn Johnson. So that's interesting, I thought,

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Speaker 1: and personally I was thinking Keyshan would behind aj Green.

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Speaker 1: Similar skill set was the outside receiver last year, but

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Speaker 1: he had some issues coming back to the ball, fighting

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Speaker 1: for the ball with the d tbs. You know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: when the ball's not right on target, you have to

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Speaker 1: become a defensive back. Remember what we said during our

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Speaker 1: last Cardinals cover two presented by Hyunday probably partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals with respects to the unofficial death chart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pay zero attention to the death chart, MJ. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I got some little pushback from that, and

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Speaker 1: I fully understand it. You look at it and it

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Speaker 1: looks pretty accurate outside of the fact that Justin Murray's

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Speaker 1: listed as the first team right garden. He's been hurt

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Speaker 1: now for the past several days. But look watching practice.

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Speaker 1: Keyshawn Johnson's playing outside, he's playing inside. He was inside

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Speaker 1: earlier on Wednesday. So whether they're behind AJ Green or

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Speaker 1: behind DeAndre Hopkin is if you're a backup, you had

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Speaker 1: damn well better know every single wide receiver spot. And

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Speaker 1: that's the beauty of the offense. And that's why you know,

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Speaker 1: we know who the starters are gonna be. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be A J. Green, it's gonna be DeAndre Hopkins. And

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Speaker 1: to see they're gonna be Kirk or Ron del Moore,

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Speaker 1: they can roll four out they want to go five,

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Speaker 1: you can bring Keishaw out there. You can use Chase

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Speaker 1: Emans in motion and put them on the outside receiver.

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Speaker 1: So they'll have their options. But those are gonna be

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Speaker 1: the top guys, and they'll fill out the roster with

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Speaker 1: you know, guys four or five and six. And again,

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Speaker 1: Kirk could be three one week, Ron del Moore could

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Speaker 1: be four one week, vice versa. The other thing to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on and remember about Keyshawn Johnson is

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Speaker 1: the chemistry he has with the quarterback and that means something.

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Speaker 1: Since day one, for whatever reason, it seemed like Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray locked in on number nineteen and they had something

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Speaker 1: that was ahead of Andy Isabelle ahead at the time

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Speaker 1: of Keim Butler. It was always Kyler Murray as a

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Speaker 1: safety vale looking for Keyshawn Johnson. So if that puts

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Speaker 1: Johnson ahead of someone else, you know, who does the

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Speaker 1: quarterback like to throw the ball to. That matters in

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Speaker 1: addition to everything that you're able to do. And that's

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Speaker 1: something that Kingsbury has brought up. It's something that Johnson

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Speaker 1: was asked about earlier on Wednesday, and yeah, that chemistry

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Speaker 1: exists and it probably goes back to the fact that

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Speaker 1: you're part of that same draft class, and we talk

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Speaker 1: about it a lot, MJ. Those guys, regardless of position,

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Speaker 1: regardless of when they heard their name called, they are

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Speaker 1: connected for their duration of their NFL careers. And if

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Speaker 1: you go back to the year they drafted Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: and drafted those stream receivers, they did have rookie mini camp,

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Speaker 1: they did have offseason workouts, and they did have a preseason.

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Speaker 1: So the fact, and again we say it all the time,

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Speaker 1: some guys wanted for a year to second year sometimes

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Speaker 1: takes a little bit longer when you don't get the

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Speaker 1: reps in your year and sweats on the sidelines, so

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Speaker 1: now it's the third year. So yeah, it's just part

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Speaker 1: of the process. But I totally agree with you. I've

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Speaker 1: always felt that way year attached to the entire class.

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Speaker 1: And the fact is that initially when they drafted him,

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Speaker 1: Steve Kind said, Keishawn Johnson was one of the best

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Speaker 1: route runners in the draft, and we've got a chance

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Speaker 1: to see a flash in the first month of the season.

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Speaker 1: He was catching three to four balls and then everything changed,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know how his practice habits

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Speaker 1: were maybe he was in a funk, but the fact

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Speaker 1: that he admitted once got down to the end of

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Speaker 1: the season, things started to click for him and that

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Speaker 1: has give you a ton of confidence going into the offseason. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: he is finally getting in and does take longer for

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Speaker 1: some players as far as now into year three. For

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Speaker 1: Keyshawn Johnson, there is one starter that I want to

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Speaker 1: touch on that I do think might see more playing

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Speaker 1: time than anyone else. So get to that in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio network. The one starter that I hope

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Speaker 1: does see more reps than any other player on this

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Speaker 1: Cardinals ninety one man roster. And they say ninety one

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Speaker 1: because Bernhardt Syke of does not count against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: But if I was to tell you there's one player

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Speaker 1: that should be on the field more than any other

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Speaker 1: projected Week one starter, who do you think I'm talking about? Correct?

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Speaker 1: Zaven Collins needs to be on the field more than

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Speaker 1: just first team reps. If he's out there that first

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Speaker 1: series and it's a three and out, great, you want

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Speaker 1: to pull Lecky fot two out the field. Perfect? You

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Speaker 1: want to pull Isaiah Simmons off the field? Great? No

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Speaker 1: more Booda Baker. I'm fine with that. Zaven Collins, though,

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Speaker 1: should be on that field for two, three, maybe even

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Speaker 1: entire first quarter going into the second quarter, because the

641
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: more he sees, the better off this team, this defense

642
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: is going to be. Couldn't agree more with you. And

643
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: even though there are certain packages that Jordan Hicks is

644
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: part of the eleven starters, Jordan Hicks is a backup,

645
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have to play a little bit. And

646
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: we've seen more and more that Hicks and Collins and

647
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: the inside and Isaiah can play five different positions. He

648
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: can rush the past from the left side or right,

649
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: he can cover the slot receiver, he can cover the

650
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: tight end, he can play safety. So yeah, I don't disagree,

651
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: but trust me, this is what I'm looking at and

652
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: contenta dots. Having Jordan Hicks on the field with Collins

653
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: is only going to help this defense until he figures

654
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: it out, and that could take to week eight, may

655
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: not happen overnight. But having him on the field and

656
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: knowing that he's not the guy and he's not making

657
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: the calls, but I could hit him on the hip

658
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: and he's gonna get guys lined up. So I think

659
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: Hicks is Hicks. We're going to see him again. You

660
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: want to see some of the Evan Weavers and Tanner

661
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 1: ver leJOS and Zeke Turners and some other guys they

662
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: have in camp. But I gotta think Hicks is going

663
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: to be out there at times. Maybe he doesn't start

664
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: the game. Collins, Simmons, Chandler, Golden, etc. Cannard maybe, but

665
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: when he's on the field, he's going to be a

666
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: sponge for Collins. And it's not like they don't trust

667
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: Zavan Collins or don't believe in him. It's just another assistance,

668
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: if you will, some more help to help with getting

669
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: the rest of the defense set, whether that's the guys

670
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: in front or the guys in the back. And you know,

671
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: we always talk about you know, I think you know,

672
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: from a fan standpoint, they always want to know the

673
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: diamond in a rough. I don't think we've talked about

674
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Zavin Collins or Buddha Baker how they play. Buddha Baker

675
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: has been the beast, and we know he's gonna be

676
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: more more vocal. This is his defense. He's the face

677
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: of the defense. Does it against Chandler Jones. J J.

678
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Watt hasn't played a snap with the Cardinals, so he

679
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: looks good. Now, there's gonna be growing pains. There's gonna

680
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: be times he's gonna be on the sidelines, you know,

681
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: watching just to kind of grasp things. It's the speed

682
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: of the game is so much different than practice. Get

683
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: to week one and it's even it's even faster. But

684
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: I agree, just having having Jordan Hicks with him is

685
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: going to go a long way the learning curve. It's

686
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: still gonna be a learning curve, but I think it

687
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: will be a little bit shorter of them we normally

688
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: would have thought if Hicks wasn't on the roster. You

689
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: look at the rest of the inside linebackers behind Hicks,

690
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: Simmons and Collins, Tanner Vallejo, you know he's gonna make

691
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: the team. He's good on special teams. Zekiel Turner, he's

692
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: gonna make the team, good on special teams. Evan Weaver

693
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: and Smith, those are the only others. You've got seven

694
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: inside linebackers, so you'll see a lot of Evan Weaver,

695
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: You'll see a lot of Terrence Smith. I just don't

696
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: think there's a plan for them to make this roster

697
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: and be available Week one. Yeah, and Weaver was his

698
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: draft pick last year. It was the PAC twelve Defensive

699
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. He's kind of a little undersized,

700
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: but as you mentioned earlier, he's also you know, we're

701
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: gonna have scouts at these games now, and then you know,

702
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: obviously teams are going to be able to get the

703
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: film on the AL twenty two film. Maybe somebody I

704
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna make the roster. I don't even

705
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: know if he would be an option for the practice

706
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: card at the Cardinal I think they know what they

707
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: have in him, but this will allow him to showcase.

708
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: And I couldn't agree more that third preseason game. Play

709
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: all those guys, play them all, let them, let him

710
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: get on some film. Yeah, even though you've got two

711
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: weeks between that third preseason game the regular season, I

712
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: do think teams and maybe even the Cardinals are looking

713
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: at that third preseason game as the fourth preseason game.

714
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: And it's just it's different. The way you get ready

715
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: four week one is different than it was five, ten

716
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: years ago, maybe even a couple of years ago, because one,

717
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: these guys are in shape all year around. They don't

718
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: come into training camp looking to get in shape. They're

719
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: already in shape. And then the emphasis and the priority

720
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: is winning games in the regular season, not preseason. And

721
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: you practice and yeah, you should be good to go.

722
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: And I always go back to what Carson Palmer said

723
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: where he brought up and it raised a lot of eyebrows,

724
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I want to get hit just

725
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: to feel that and let my body adjust. And then

726
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: the recovery and everything, and I think that was the

727
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: exception rather than the norm. But these athletes now just

728
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: they practice and then they play when it matters, when

729
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: it counts, not so much this Friday or next Friday

730
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs or in New Orleans. Yeah, and we're

731
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna see a ton of Colt McCoy and Chris Traveler.

732
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: I'd let Trevor play the second half of some of

733
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: these games. I mean, he makes plays and then you know,

734
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: today he's running around with his head cut off and

735
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: he got like three yards, but he makes plays. I

736
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: don't know if he'll ever be tysom Hill. He may

737
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: not even be active on the roster, could be a

738
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: practice squad guy or not active on game day. Clardy,

739
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: but I think Colton McCoy, once they take Murray out,

740
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: I want Colton McCoy to be thrown to Rondel Moore,

741
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: Keyshawn Johnson, Christian Kirk, Joejoe Award. Butchelly, I want him

742
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: thrown to those guys because next time Colton McCoy plays

743
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: could be in the regular season. I'm glad you brought

744
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: up McCoy because he did get a lot of work

745
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: during Wednesday's practices, Murray was more just individual drills and

746
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: probably holding off until Friday. But yeah, when Colton McCoy

747
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: takes the field on Friday, just to see how much

748
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: of a difference a backup quarterback or a veteran quarterback

749
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: will mean in the short term and the long term.

750
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: And even if it doesn't go well for whatever reason,

751
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: it's you know this, don't one bird gang. Don't make

752
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: huge declarations, assumptions, conclusions based off of one preseason game.

753
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: But I'll say this about McCoy, it's not so much

754
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: what he's doing on the field, it's what he's doing

755
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: on the sideline, in the meeting room, in the classroom

756
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: at the hotel. When they're together. He and Kyler Murray

757
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: are perfect for each other. And that is where Colt

758
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: McCoy his value is in Murray's ear, in his back pocket,

759
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: if you will helping Murray be a better quarterback on

760
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: the field. And he said, Kyler's giving him tips because

761
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: he's learning a new offense now. He run a formation

762
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: of spread at Texas. We know he's a great college quarterback,

763
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: but watching film, recognizing ID and pre snap reads the motion,

764
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: moving to mic lionbacker out. So yeah, he's gonna be

765
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: a great sponge and he's not trying to take his job.

766
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: He knows his role. So we're gonna see a lot

767
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: of cult McCoy and Chris Schrepler, and again we'll just

768
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: have to wait and see, you know. But I will

769
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: say this when McCoy's in there or it seems like

770
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: he goes under center a little bit more than Kyler.

771
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: Now again he's not as fast as Kyler. So you

772
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: got the pistol of the RPO and the zone read.

773
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: We know Kyler's very effective at that. Make a decision

774
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: on the defensive end, Tucket in the belly of the

775
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: running back, pull it back or run. But I noticed

776
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: that clearly people will say, well, the offense won't change,

777
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: the concept changes. Yeah, it changes, but the concepts won't change.

778
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: They're going to run their offense. But he's accurate, it

779
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of mistakes. So he's to me

780
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: the perfect backup the Cardinals. Signing the off season, I

781
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: was interested in Tyrod Taylor. He end up going to

782
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: Houston and then RG three recently took a job with

783
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: the Network. I thought those guys are similar to Murray's

784
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: skill set, he Culton McCoy is not a runner, but

785
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can sit in the pocket and

786
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: make all the throwers. Well, you have to ask, you know,

787
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: what are you comfortable in executing if you're Coulton McCoy

788
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: and if he prefers to be under center, then maybe

789
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: that's what you see. And as far as the offense, yeah,

790
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: you narrow it down to what McCoy does as well

791
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: versus what Kyler Murray excels that you're not going to

792
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: expect Colton McCoy to do, you know, a sprint draw

793
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: or run around for fifteen yards. It's just not who

794
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: he is. So you know, don't sit there and think

795
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, if coult McCoy's out there,

796
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: then the offense is going to look totally different. It

797
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: is going to look different just based off of their

798
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: skill sets. But the most important aspect of the Colt

799
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: McCoy signing is what he is doing off the field,

800
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: at least for me and everything that we've been told

801
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: is how much McCoy has helped Murray grow as a quarterback.

802
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: And then also the leadership aspect and making sure that

803
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: he is the voice, he is taking ownership in this team.

804
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Every every interview he does. First thing, well, how are

805
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: you and Kyl are getting along pretty good? Since he

806
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: went to Oklahoma and I went to Texas. Yeah, that

807
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: was addressed early, and then I think now all of

808
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: a sudden it becomes more of a media thing and

809
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: we can always bring it up. And but yeah, it

810
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: will be brought up again once Texas and Oklahoma play

811
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: one another, come on wave exactly, yeah, and will make

812
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: them both address the media and see how well things

813
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: are going in that uh well, you know, in that

814
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks room. I don't know if we'll be back in

815
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: the locker room anytime soon. But you know what's gonna happen.

816
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: If you lose, you gotta wear the other guy's jersey

817
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: like all week. Yeah, there'll there'll be something, something noticeable,

818
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: something public that everyone will find out. And you know,

819
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you've got a couple of Clemson guys

820
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: in there now, um Hop and Simmons Clemson. I think

821
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: they released a Top twenty five yesterday. Yeah, it's the

822
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: same team Alabama, the same team Big Shock Issue twenty seven,

823
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: three pack twelve teams in there, but the same team.

824
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I gotta think Clemson's going to

825
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: be a big conversation in that locker room preseason opener

826
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: on Friday, M Joe. We touched on a lot anything

827
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: that we missed a player, uh, position group or something

828
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: you want to see. You know, again, the offense is

829
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna be very vanilla. I think the defense to a

830
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: certain extent, will be very vanilla. Just when you're one

831
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: on one matchups come out of they're clean, be in sync.

832
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: No fall start penalties, no jumping off sides. I got

833
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: no problem for an aggressive penalty. If that means the

834
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: quarterback's going to get hit, you can tackle the guy.

835
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. But just be clean. Go out

836
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: there and put a nice drive together, get some momentum,

837
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: and then sit there and watch the young guys because

838
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: it's always interesting. Larry he was a big fan of this.

839
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: He'd stand on the sidelines had you know, sunflower season

840
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: a cup and they always have their hands on their

841
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: shoulder pads and their cheer. I remember Larry. I don't

842
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: know if it was Willy Will when he sort of

843
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: touched on, Larry went down there and tackled him. So

844
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: that's nice to see because they know how hard it is.

845
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: To get to this point and when they have success,

846
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: whether it's a preseason game or not, some guys can

847
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: be selling insurance in about two months. Yeah, and this

848
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: is their opportunity come Friday, and I like what you

849
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: had to say as far as come out with no

850
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: injuries outside of you know, Bruis's knicks, cuts, whatever, and

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Speaker 1: then a clean game. You know, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see the football touch in the field, and keep those

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Speaker 1: flags in the back pocket of the officials and just

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Speaker 1: make sure you are executing, doing your job, doing what

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to do, not worried about the guy to

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Speaker 1: your left or to your right. And curious to see

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Speaker 1: how Kingsbury handles the Matt Prador situation. We know, you know,

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Speaker 1: based on last year forty to forty nine. Maybe he's

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Speaker 1: not his fourtee, but he's he's you know, you want

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Speaker 1: to get some points, obviously, want to score in the

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Speaker 1: red zone, but Matt Prador is he gonna try a

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Speaker 1: forty nine yard field goal of fifty? He's really the

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Speaker 1: only kicker in camp. They have an extra punter. I

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Speaker 1: think they will take some of the Yeah, you might

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Speaker 1: see Tyler Newsome more hunting than Andy Lee you might

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Speaker 1: even see Newsom do some kickoffs just to maybe expand

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Speaker 1: his role. And I haven't seen him work as any

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Speaker 1: field goal attempts in training camp. But you know, Andy

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Speaker 1: Lee is going to be your guy barring something out

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Speaker 1: of the ordinary, and Brewer um Lee would be the holder.

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Speaker 1: Prayder doesn't need any any other people doing that. They

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Speaker 1: need that, you know, chemistry, and he's amness and the

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Speaker 1: sincness of the actual play. So I'm curious see how

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Speaker 1: it Prater kicks a couple of fifty yards. I would

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Speaker 1: like to see him score, but they don't have another kicker. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe he could kick a couple field goals. He's just

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Speaker 1: he's just right now a camp guy. Or you just

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Speaker 1: go for two, or you go forward on fourth down

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Speaker 1: and let Kingsbury roll the dice earlier. You know, Benjamin

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Speaker 1: right tackle. Oh, you know it's gonna get a lot

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Speaker 1: of time, that's right. And I'm glad you brought him

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Speaker 1: up because we've talked so much about EO. Benjamin. But

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Speaker 1: with respects to that third maybe even a fourth running

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Speaker 1: back on the roster. You know, Benjamin and Jonathan Ward

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Speaker 1: two names to keep an eye on. And it was

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Speaker 1: interesting Justin Pugh bringing up Jonathan Ward on his own

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Speaker 1: when he was asked about Chase Edmonds and James Connor,

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Speaker 1: he brought up, unprompted, Jonathan Ward as far as someone

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. So, yeah, you'll see a

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Speaker 1: lot of you know Benjamin and a lot of Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Ward coming up on Friday. Yeah, and they add another back, Smith,

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Speaker 1: Edo Smith. He looks the part. I mean, you know,

893
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Speaker 1: short yardage guy. But I think right now the top

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Speaker 1: four and you know how I feel about Jonathan Ward.

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Speaker 1: He's literally a combination of Chase and Connor, and I

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Speaker 1: think you knows more of a comp on Chase Edmonds,

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Speaker 1: you know, the size getting you know, in past protection,

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Speaker 1: going out for passes. But you're gonna see a ton

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Speaker 1: of you know, Benjamin, especially in this that second half

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Speaker 1: of all three preseason games. I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Ward's got a spot on the team, but he

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Speaker 1: needs reps and so he'll be out there and then

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Speaker 1: we'll see if they you know, unload the roster when

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Speaker 1: you start looking at some of these guys that are

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Speaker 1: fighting for jobs. Yeah, the other running backs is Davy

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Speaker 1: and Feaster is on the roster, and Edo Smith was

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Speaker 1: added just this week, so we'll see just kind of

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Speaker 1: what the mix is. But I would expect some reps

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Speaker 1: for Edmonds and Connor, but just not a lot, especially

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Speaker 1: in this first pretty well game. And then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: make a decision, you know, even though if Peugh can't go,

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Speaker 1: you know who starts over there. We know Murray's out

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Speaker 1: right now and winners, but you want to keep collar

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Speaker 1: and then those backs with the first string, yes, because

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Speaker 1: you don't want anyone to take any unnecessary hits and

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Speaker 1: someone blows up trying to make a play and trying

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Speaker 1: to get on film, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: that's when injuries happened and tempers get up. And I

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Speaker 1: wish this was a joint practice because Dallas has they

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Speaker 1: have speed at the wide receiver position. Ceedee lamb gallop

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Speaker 1: and you're throwing to Mary Cooper. Micah Parsons, he was

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Speaker 1: on hard knocks. This guy's a hitter. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals liked Collins more than Parsons. Parsons went earlier

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Speaker 1: in the draft. They played more of a four to three,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Sean Lees of the world. And so

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Speaker 1: Parsons is a guy that probably he needs to get

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Speaker 1: some reps too, and so that that'd be interesting. Just

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Speaker 1: see how the Cardinals starters are able to attack the

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Speaker 1: Dallas defense because they got some names over there, I

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Speaker 1: mean Marcos, DeMarco, DeMarcus Lawrence, and they got some they

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Speaker 1: got some studs over there, and they got some good corners.

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Speaker 1: So I just wish it was they can play a

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Speaker 1: little bit longer than they're normally gonna play. Yeah, Burgang,

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Speaker 1: don't show up late on Friday night because if you

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Speaker 1: show up late, you're gonna miss probably a lot of

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Speaker 1: the first times. And anytime we get a game during

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Speaker 1: the week, people are working, and I ten can be

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Speaker 1: backed up. The lots are paved, it looks like the

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Speaker 1: Great Long it looks like it's been reseated and everything else.

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Speaker 1: But I would leave early. Maybe you walk around the office.

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Speaker 1: I want to leave at noon. Why it's a preseason game,

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Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki said, I can get off, so I don't

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Speaker 1: have a permission slip for you, but I definitely recommend

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Speaker 1: you get here early. The NFL is back come Friday nights.

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Speaker 1: How about them Cowboys seven pm here at State Farm Stadium.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we'll put a lid on This

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Jim on hundred for Mike Jarecki. I'm Greig

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Speaker 1: rail Loup. We'll talk to you next time here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two