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Speaker 1: So many good teams, real juggernauts in both conferences and

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Speaker 1: moments like upsetting Yiannis in the twenty twenty the Bucks

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Speaker 1: He just had a lot of big moments, right, and

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Speaker 1: this is not the first time that Jimmy Butler's been

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Speaker 1: Jason Love your show Man two part mail bag for you.

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Speaker 1: We can all remember the narrative around Kyrie Irving before

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Speaker 1: double figures, they had they had not played Boston Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: City in that streak. That was literally all I was

435
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Speaker 1: trying to say. But point being in that streak though,

436
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: they had played a lot of good teams. So what

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Speaker 1: I was saying is like, this is a streak where

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Speaker 1: they're playing a lot of good teams and winning every

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Speaker 1: game by double figures. Maybe not the great teams, but

440
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,719
Speaker 1: they're playing all the good teams and they're winning by

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Speaker 1: double figures. That was all I was trying to say. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: here's our Calves question. If the Calves beat the Thunder

443
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Speaker 1: one of two times, dare I say both? Are we

444
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Speaker 1: the top team now? So I'm not sure if you

445
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Speaker 1: guys miss this, Cavs fans, but in the video that

446
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Speaker 1: we did earlier this week, I think on Thursday, I

447
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 1: already view the Calves as ahead of the Thunder right now.

448
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: I think that their perimeter shooting is just so much

449
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 1: more reliable than Oklahoma City's. I think when you look

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Speaker 1: at shot creation, like going from Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland,

451
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Speaker 1: and Evan Mobley as your primary shot creators to shake

452
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Speaker 1: Gilgis Alexander j dub Chat Holmgren, I actually based on

453
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Speaker 1: the depth there, Like Shay is obviously better than Donovan,

454
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Speaker 1: but I think Darius is a more reliable shot creator

455
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Speaker 1: with more experience, Like I think Evan Mobley and his

456
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: growth is every bit is good of a third option

457
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: right now in terms of creating offenses guys. As a

458
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Speaker 1: guy like Chat, I think Chet's a better player because

459
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: he's got a little bit higher defensive ceiling with his

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Speaker 1: rim protection ability. But like I think the shot creation

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Speaker 1: is relatively even between the two teams, maybe a slight

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Speaker 1: edge to Cleveland, and then Cleveland just has way more

463
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Speaker 1: reliable shooting off of that, I uh. And then on

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Speaker 1: the defensive end of the floor, like they're different types

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Speaker 1: of teams, Like Oklahoma City has more good perimeter defense,

466
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Speaker 1: but at the same time, Cleveland's been defending really really

467
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Speaker 1: well this year and they've got that interior size piece

468
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Speaker 1: and that's what they're gonna do if they were to

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Speaker 1: face each other, Like if we got a Calves Thunder Finals,

470
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Speaker 1: like you're gonna see a lot of Jared Allen and

471
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Speaker 1: Evan Mobley in the plant in the paint as the

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Speaker 1: Calves basically, dare some of these Oklahoma City role players

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Speaker 1: to shoot? So it's a small gap. I want to

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Speaker 1: be clear, like I have Cleveland above the Thunder by

475
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Speaker 1: just a very small gap, but I do have them

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Speaker 1: above them right now, and for the record, like if

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Speaker 1: I believe the Calves will beat the Thunder next week,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens they're at home. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a good matchup for them too, but we'll see how

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Speaker 1: it goes, Hey Jason. In one of his recent podcasts,

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connor was discussing the improvements Cade has made this season,

482
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Speaker 1: but question whether or not he could develop into another

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Speaker 1: number one scoring option, and if he can't, what does

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Speaker 1: that mean for the Pistons. I believe Caid can become

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Speaker 1: the best overall player on a championship level team, but

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Speaker 1: not as the number one scorer. Instead, I see him

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Speaker 1: as an overqualified number two who's more focused on setting

488
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Speaker 1: teammates up, punishing mismatches, and being that switchable plus defender.

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Speaker 1: My question is is it essential in today's NBA for

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Speaker 1: a franchise player to also be the number one score?

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Speaker 1: The recent finals MVPs have all been number one scores. However,

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Speaker 1: I'd argue Lebron and Jokic didn't want to be that guy.

493
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Speaker 1: It's just that they had to assume that role to

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Speaker 1: win the title. Haliburton is another case study that I

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Speaker 1: think this would apply to. Thanks as always for your content.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I don't think Caid has to

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Speaker 1: be a number one scoring option to even be the

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Speaker 1: best player on his team. I think that every basketball

499
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Speaker 1: player brings a list of traits to the table, and

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Speaker 1: ideally you want your supporting stars to compliment each other. Right, So,

501
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Speaker 1: for instance, like I would want to put a really

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Speaker 1: dominant scorer next to Kaid just because that's the best

503
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Speaker 1: way to compliment a big, playmaking forward. What has made

504
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Speaker 1: Lebron the best in his life? A guy like Kyrie

505
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Speaker 1: irving next to him that can create his own shot,

506
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Speaker 1: guy like a Dwayne Wade next to him who's a

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Speaker 1: scoring guard. Right is what has been the best LUCA

508
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Speaker 1: season this year? Kyrie iv or this in his career,

509
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Speaker 1: Kyrie irving next to him the time he made it

510
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Speaker 1: a Western Conference Finals, Jalen Brunson next to him, scoring

511
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Speaker 1: guards that can help him Like that doesn't mean that

512
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Speaker 1: Lebron couldn't score that doesn't mean that Luca couldn't score.

513
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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that kid can't score. It's just a good

514
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Speaker 1: complimentary fit to have a scoring guard next to your big,

515
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Speaker 1: playmaking Ford. It depends on how fast Jade and Ivy's

516
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Speaker 1: going to develop. Can Jade and Ivy develop into that

517
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Speaker 1: type of player that can be that kind of support

518
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Speaker 1: for kid, And that's the kind of stuff like as

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Speaker 1: I keep saying, like with the Pistons right now, it's

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Speaker 1: a combination of experience, and then through the draft, I'd

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Speaker 1: be looking at drafting off ball talent, meaning like guys

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Speaker 1: that can really score the basketball without needing plays run

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Speaker 1: for them. Those are the kind like I'd be looking

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Speaker 1: for older wings that are like three four year college

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Speaker 1: guys and guys that are ready to play right away

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Speaker 1: that are in that like six seven to six y

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Speaker 1: nine phase that can shoot th rais and drive closeouts.

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Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of guys upgrades of Malik Beasley,

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Speaker 1: Tobias Harris, Tim Hardaway junior that are younger and cheaper.

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Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of guys that I'd be looking at,

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Speaker 1: Like right now, you have all these guys on rookie contracts,

532
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Speaker 1: so you can afford to pay expensive vets, but you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to extend all these dudes and put them

534
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Speaker 1: on max extensions. When they're all on maxes, you're gonna

535
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Speaker 1: need to have discounted talent off of them. The way

536
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Speaker 1: you get that discounted talent is through the draft. But

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Speaker 1: it's again you have to figure out whether or not

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Speaker 1: Jade and Ivy is capable of being that number two,

539
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Speaker 1: and we're only going to find that out through time

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Speaker 1: and hopefully he gets healthy relatively soon. Can you please

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Speaker 1: revisit your stance that the West is way better than

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Speaker 1: the East. Do you still feel that same way considering

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Speaker 1: that the East has now won fifty one percent of

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Speaker 1: the games versus West teams, and the NBA Cup has

545
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Speaker 1: reorganized the schedule so that teams play a lot of

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Speaker 1: in conference games early early on during group play. That

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Speaker 1: means we're looking at an even smaller sample of East

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Speaker 1: versus West games than we usually see this early in

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Speaker 1: the year. So I don't know where you're getting that

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Speaker 1: fifty one percent number from. I pulled it up. In

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Speaker 1: the West is they've played one hundred and forty two

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Speaker 1: games intercom it's play, and the West is seventy seven

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Speaker 1: and sixty five, so twelve games over five hundred, it's

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Speaker 1: a fifty four point two percent win percentage, not quite

555
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Speaker 1: as high as last year, but still pretty high. And

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Speaker 1: that number has dropped a little bit since the start

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Speaker 1: of the season as some teams in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the East, teams like Atlanta and Milwaukee and Philly have

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Speaker 1: started to win some games, but like for the most part,

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Speaker 1: the West has continued to be dominant throughout the year.

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Speaker 1: That said, I do think Boston and Cleveland are the

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Speaker 1: two best teams in the league right now, So for

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Speaker 1: whatever that's worth, the top of the East is stronger

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Speaker 1: than the top of the West. But I do think

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Speaker 1: that the Western Conference is pretty clearly stronger and they

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Speaker 1: continue to demonstrate demonstrate that throughout the season. Jason, you

567
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Speaker 1: keep staying on this Kaminga trade train, even when Jonathan

568
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Speaker 1: does exactly what is needed twenty points, five assists, five

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Speaker 1: boards in a plus twenty five game that his coach

570
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Speaker 1: went out of his way to give props for props four. Dude,

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Speaker 1: what is your problem with Kaminga. If you get Cam

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Speaker 1: Johnson without getting Kminga, that might work. This is a

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Speaker 1: question that or this is an issue that I have

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people I think missed just because

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00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: I produce a lot of content. Like I'm gonna skip

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00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: ahead for another question real quick, Jason, you make great,

577
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: thoughtful content. I learned a lot from watching your videos.

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00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: Some of your videos play some watch your videos to

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Speaker 1: play contrarian, and you seem to take it as such. However,

580
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: some things you do actually show unmistakable bias. Please speak

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00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: on the year Westbrook is having, because you've been extremely

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00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: critical of him. This is the same type of example

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Speaker 1: I have multiple times this year talked about how great

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Speaker 1: of a fit Russell Westbrook has been with Jokic. I

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00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: specifically talked about how his ability to attack off of

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Speaker 1: the two man game and actually draw Yokic's defender into

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00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: the paint further allowing for those drop off passes has

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00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: weaponized the two man game again, especially during the phase

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Speaker 1: when Jamal Murray was struggling. I've talked about Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 1: positively many times this year. The thing is is I do, guys,

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Speaker 1: I do like four to five hours a week of

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Speaker 1: brand new content. I had a whole segment earlier this

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Speaker 1: week where I clarified I'm not saying trade Kaminga just

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Speaker 1: to trade Kaminga. I'm just saying, if push comes to

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Speaker 1: shove and you have an opportunity to upgrade the roster

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00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: with a more reliable player, player that has a higher floor,

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00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: then yeah, you should probably include Kaminga. That's all I

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Speaker 1: was saying. If you can go get Cam Johnson without

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Speaker 1: trading Jonathan Kaminga, by all means do it. If you

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Speaker 1: can go get Jimmy Butler without trading Jonathan Kaminga, by

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00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: all means, go do it. All I was saying is

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Speaker 1: what ends up happening. And this is something that I've

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00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: been riding this train with Warriors fans for the last

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Speaker 1: two years now. Every time Jonathan Kanminga has a good game,

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Speaker 1: everyone comes to me and talks about how amazing Jonathan

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00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: Kminga is and how he should never be traded. I

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Speaker 1: have never disputed Jonathan Kaminga's ceiling. He's a freakishly talented

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Speaker 1: young basketball player. He's one of the most athletically gifted

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Speaker 1: players that we have in the league. Of course, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have really good games. He also has a really

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Speaker 1: low floor because he's a young player who is very inconsistent,

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Speaker 1: who struggles to replicate successes and struggles to get rid

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Speaker 1: of mistakes that he makes. Very typical for a twenty

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Speaker 1: two year old raw athletic forward, and I don't blame

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00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: him for that at all. Most people his age get

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Speaker 1: to go somewhere else and make mistakes and learn how

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Speaker 1: to play basketball slowly. That's not the case. He's on

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Speaker 1: a team with Steph Curry and Draymond Green. And despite

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Speaker 1: some of the statistical performance like the Warriors throughout the

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00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: season have, like the on off numbers, the metrics that

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Speaker 1: track how the team performs when Kaminga is on versus

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Speaker 1: Kaminga is off, they're not good. Ideally, you don't want

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Speaker 1: to rely on him. That's the point. You just don't

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Speaker 1: want to rely on him. If you can keep him

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Speaker 1: in house and allow him to continue to grow while

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Speaker 1: not needing him to be on the floor as one

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Speaker 1: of your final five in a big playoff game, that's good.

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to rely on him to be

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Speaker 1: on the floor in a big playoff game, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get lost off ball, lose track of his shooter, fail

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00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: to help when he's supposed to, lose game plan discipline,

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Speaker 1: and teams are going to Saguway the hell off of

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Speaker 1: him and dare him to shoot, and he might not

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Speaker 1: be able to make shots. So yeah, if you have

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to bring in a Jimmy Butler or a

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Speaker 1: Cam Johnson and the Nets or the heat go, we

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Speaker 1: need Jonathan Kaminga to make this deal work or we're

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Speaker 1: not doing it. I would make the deal. Why because

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Speaker 1: even though Jonathan Kminga has a lot of potential, I

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Speaker 1: do not see him as a foundational star, meaning I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's the guy that you rebuild around. He's

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Speaker 1: the guy that if you could have him for your rebuild, great,

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Speaker 1: But if not, then it's not the end of the world. Like,

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Speaker 1: I think this team is destined for tanking and being

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Speaker 1: really bad for a few years no matter what when

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Speaker 1: Steph retires. So like, I just think by virtue of

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Speaker 1: the fact that you're not gonna have a player as

648
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Speaker 1: good as Steph for a very long time. If you

649
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to give these guys a chance, maybe

650
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: not even for this year, but for next year, like

651
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: to bring in an asset that helps them rebuild around

652
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: this court next year, then I think you gotta do it.

653
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, like if you can make those sorts of

654
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: up grades without trading Minga by all means do it.

655
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: I think that's the right move. I'm not a big

656
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: believer in just throwing assets away for nothing. It's just

657
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: about the reality of their predicament. But again, as I

658
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: said with the Westbrook thing, as I'm saying with this

659
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: cominga thing, these are all things that I've set on

660
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: the channel before. I don't blame you, guys, I'm not.

661
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: I don't.

662
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: I produce too much content to just expect that all

663
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: of you watch every single minute. I know that there's

664
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: probably a very small percentage of you that actually watch

665
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: every single show that I make. I'm sure most of

666
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: you are like they're talking about my favorite team today,

667
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: like I'll listen right, or like, oh maybe I like

668
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: Power Rankings days, or maybe I like mail bag days.

669
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: I get that.

670
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: But I just have to let you guys know that

671
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: these are things that I have said on the show before.

672
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: What would it take for the Nicks to beat the

673
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: Celtics the two ended up in the Eastern Conference Finals.

674
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: I'd have to not be scared about Jalen Brunson and

675
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns being so easily attacked in the half

676
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: court offensively once again in the Oklahoma City game, every

677
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: slow down half corp is turned into Shae Gil just

678
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: as Alexander attacking cat and drop or cat and hedges

679
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: and bruntson and hedges and just getting really good stuff

680
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: out of it.

681
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: Every time when.

682
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: They'd hedged, they'd slip and get a four on three.

683
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: When they'd switch, then Shae would just attack Jalen and

684
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: get right downhill and get to the rim. Carl Anthony

685
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: Town's in a drop shase hitting another mid range jump shot,

686
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: like they just attacking that too easily, And like, I mean,

687
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Michale Bridges is playing better. The Knicks

688
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: offense is better. A lot of things are better about

689
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: the Knicks since the opening night catastrophe in Boston. A

690
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: lot of things are better, but one thing is the same,

691
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: and that is they have this Jalen Brunson Karl Anthony

692
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Town's half court defense thing. And like, I think there's

693
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: a couple of different things they can look at. One

694
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: like blitzing instead of hedging, because they're just giving up

695
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: four on threes too easily anyway, so they need to

696
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: be a little bit more aggressive to maybe get more deflections,

697
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: maybe force more turnovers, and then trusting the switch with

698
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: more help, like on the play where Jalen Brunson got

699
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: switched on to Shae. Shay just went right around him

700
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: and we didn't get into any traffic. And so they

701
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: just need to have a better plan as a team

702
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: for how to deal with teams that want to attack

703
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: Jalen in kat and space. All right, three more questions,

704
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: big believer in Golden State. Okay, Yet you gave up

705
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: on the Lakers so fast and asked for their rebuild

706
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: after two bad games, and you went on to keep

707
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: repeating that you're skeptical about the Lakers only no other

708
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: team to be skeptical about, God forbid the Warriors.

709
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: It's still all good.

710
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: I just hope you stay on that side for the

711
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: time being, But unfortunately you will come around and get

712
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: back on to the Lakers when they have proved that

713
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: they are a serious team.

714
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: Too bad.

715
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: If you didn't believe in someone when it was hard

716
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: and you didn't come back when it's all good, you

717
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: should declare yourself a Warriors fan, or at least a

718
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: step fan, or you can go for an Anthony Edwards fan.

719
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: You've shown more faith in each one of them than

720
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: the Lakers. You should at least stay the course and

721
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: not revert to the Lakers at some point. I mentioned

722
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: this in yesterday's show, But there's a huge difference in

723
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Warriors. The Lakers are playing good

724
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: basketball right now, but they probably like they're twenty and

725
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: four team. I'd argue they've underachieved a little bit. I

726
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: said before the season, I viewed them as a fifty

727
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: win team if Lebron in ad state healthy and they've

728
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: stayed healthy. There have been a lot of games this

729
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: year that they should have won that they lost because

730
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: of poor execution, poor effort, straight up quitting on some cases.

731
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: They're twenty and fourteen because they have a pretty solid roster.

732
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: It's not a top tier roster, but it's a solid,

733
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: yet flawed roster Golden State. That roster is devoid of

734
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: top end talent other than Steph Curry. They have attacked

735
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: this regular season. They have been diligent. They have overachieved

736
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: relative to coming into the season. Most of us viewed

737
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: Golden State as a fringe playing team, like as a

738
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: complete non threat, and then they came out the gates

739
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: twelve and three before some of their talent realities and

740
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: some of their guys broke down and they started to

741
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: get worn down. My frustration with the Lakers was in

742
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: order for the Lakers to win the title, they have

743
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: to be incredibly sharp for day one to the end

744
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: of the season. I talked about it all summer. It

745
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: was the entire reason why I supported the Darbnham firing

746
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: and the JJ Reddick hiring. I was like, these guys

747
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: need a psycho that will hold them accountable, that will

748
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: help them attack the regular season every day so that

749
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: they can get to April sharp enough to be the

750
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: best version of themselves. Because they're not talented enough to

751
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: win on the strength of their talent. They have to

752
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: be the best possible basketball team that they can be.

753
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: And then when I watched them go two and five

754
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: and then roll up into Miami and quit in the

755
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: first quarter of a game, I was like, these guys

756
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: aren't serious about the work. Very different than Golden State.

757
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: Golden State has been serious about the work all season.

758
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: That is a rock solid organization with great leaders that

759
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: has been attacking things through and through. They have a

760
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: talent issue. So I'm excited about the Warriors as a

761
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: long shot championship contender if they make a talent upgrade,

762
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: because I know they're about the right stuff.

763
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: Now.

764
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: For the record, the Lakers have been a very serious

765
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: team since that devastating loss and overtime against Atlanta. I

766
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: said this on the show yesterday. This stretch, this what

767
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: is it a A what.

768
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: Are they like?

769
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: I think nine and three in eight and three in

770
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: their last eleven games, something like that, seven and two

771
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: in their last nine in this stretch, they have been

772
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: playing very serious basketball. Whatever embarrassment they ran into in

773
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: that Miami Heat situation, they've responded to it to their credit.

774
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: And like, as I look at the Lakers moving forward,

775
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical still because it's only been a few weeks,

776
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, if they maintain this throughout the season,

777
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: they will clearly demonstrate like, hey, that group of guys

778
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: that we looked like back in late November early December,

779
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: that's not us. This is us. Why here's fifty games

780
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: showing you why not eleven? Right? Like, that's that's what

781
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: I want to see before I get back into really

782
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: believing in what the Lakers can do. That plus an

783
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: upgrade up the deadline through the trade market, particularly of

784
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: the two spot. That sort of thing happens, then I

785
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: will believe in the Lakers again as a team that

786
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: can win. Everything is relative. We're always talking about these

787
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: things relative. So for instance, like why are you like

788
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: you have this like optimism surrounding the Warriors. I think

789
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: the Warriors are a long shot. I've never once said

790
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: this year that the Lakers are or the Warriors are

791
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: a top tier championship contender. I don't view them as

792
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: a top tier championship contender. Everyone's getting discussed relative to

793
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: their expectations. The Warriors have overachieved at many points this year.

794
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: The Warriors seem to me like a team that if

795
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: you bring an offensive firepower, it could slot a lot

796
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: of things to make things easier. Maybe they could go

797
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: from being a team that we all thought was like

798
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: a complete non thread at the bottom of the West

799
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: to a team that's in the middle tier in the West.

800
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: Who who knows, Maybe they can win a couple playoffs series,

801
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: find themselves in the Western Conference finals.

802
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: Now you have Steph Curry. Anything can happen.

803
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: That's the way I'm discussing them, Just like if I

804
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: discuss Cleveland, Boston, Oklahoma City, We know they're going to

805
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: be top seeds. We know they're gonna win at least

806
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: one playoff round. They're probably gonna win two playoff rounds.

807
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: These are teams that now I'm discussing them through the

808
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: context of, like, this team has an extremely high likelihood

809
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: of playing very high leverage games at the end of

810
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: the season. Let's talk about their pros and cons. It's

811
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: boring for me to just sit here and say Oklahoma City,

812
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: Boston and Cleveland are great all day long. We gotta

813
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: talk about, like those dudes are going to be in

814
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: some high leverage games. We got to talk about their

815
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses. These long shot teams, you just are

816
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: trying to put yourself in a position where maybe something

817
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: can happen. The Lakers are somewhere in between them, right,

818
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: They're closer from a talent standpoint, but they've been more

819
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: inconsistent in their execution and so much hinges on what

820
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: kind of deal they make, and they're more likely to

821
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: make a deal because they just they're just in a

822
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: position where they're like, they don't need to go get

823
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: a star necessarily, they just are looking for a good

824
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: role player or two. The Warriors are looking for a

825
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: high level offensive player, so it's a little bit more

826
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: of a precarious type of situation. But again, there's the

827
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: fundamental difference between the Lakers and the Warriors. The way

828
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: I've discussed him this year, the Warriors have a talent issue,

829
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: not a championship character issue, like a basketball character issue.

830
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: The Lakers had a basketball character issue earlier in the season.

831
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: I hated watching them. After the first three games of

832
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: the year, they relaxed. Now I am very encouraged by

833
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: this recent couple of weeks. And Okay, so this is

834
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: the inevitable question that's going to come. Okay, Jason, you

835
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: said that you were out on the Lakers and you

836
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: said that they should blow things up. Had Lebron and

837
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: ad maintained the bullshit level of focus they had during

838
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: that stretch, they should have blown it up. They responded

839
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: to their credit. Like a lot of times, we don't

840
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: account for new information in the way that can change it.

841
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: Take.

842
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: I was talking about this with Tatum yesterday. It's like

843
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: Tatum wasn't the same player last year. So yeah, even

844
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: if you disagreed with me about my player rankings, you

845
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: have to at least admit he's a different player this

846
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: year than he was last year. I talked about this yesterday,

847
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: having the best jump shooting season he's had in five years.

848
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: He's combining the Swiss Army nine four that he has

849
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: been in recent years with the elite jump shooter that

850
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: he was in the early part of his career. I

851
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: had someone in the comments goal like, you shot this

852
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: well last year.

853
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: No, he did it.

854
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: Statistically he did not, and he was awful in the postseason.

855
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: So like again, it's one of those things where we

856
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: have new information here. The Lakers looked like they were

857
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: literally crumbling and falling apart at the seams less than

858
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: a quarter of the way through the season, quitting. And

859
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: I they quit in the first shift against Miami, right

860
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: after they quit in the second half against Phoenix, right

861
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: after they quit in the second half against Denver, like

862
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: straight up, let go of the rope, let them run

863
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: us out of the gym. So when I'm watching in

864
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: the Miami game and they're two and five in their

865
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: last seven games and they desperately need one, and this

866
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: is a bad Miami team that just lost two in

867
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: a row, and you're in a spot where you can

868
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: rectify things and like ads, just like letting Bam drive

869
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: right around him. And that was like the first game

870
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: where Lebron started to play better. But other than Lebron,

871
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: everybody just looked dead that night, like they just didn't care.

872
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here like, Okay, you're not good enough to

873
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: win the title from a talent standpoint, you have to

874
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: be the best possible version of yourselves as a basketball team,

875
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: and these guys don't look like they want.

876
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: To do the work.

877
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: Now for an eleven game span or whatever it's been,

878
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: they look like they want to do the work. Let's

879
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: say that stretches through the end of the season. Okay,

880
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: they do win fifty something games, they do make some

881
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: sort of upgrade at the deadline, they do stay focused

882
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the year.

883
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: I'll just say I was.

884
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: Wrong, but I won't stay wrong in the terms of

885
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: like how I felt in the moment, how I felt

886
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: in that moment. It's the way all Lakers fans felt,

887
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: maybe not being done with the team necessarily, but all

888
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: of us were like, what the hell, guys, what are

889
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: you doing? Why are you quitting in the first half

890
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: against a bad team? So like, again, I will admit

891
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: that I just gave up on them too early. If

892
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: that was the case, I'll really do you guys think

893
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: I care about being wrong? I'm a I have opinions

894
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: for a living. It's like the Tatum thing. I've been

895
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: wrong many times on this show. I talk four to

896
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: five hours a week. There are plenty of opportunities where

897
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, I have this strong opinion. Oh,

898
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: it turns out I was wrong. If it turns out

899
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: I was wrong about the Lakers, I'll say I was

900
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: wrong about the Lakers. I will tell you, guys, though,

901
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: I need more than just a few good weeks before

902
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: I buy back in on this team with how scarred

903
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: I am from the way that they treated that early

904
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: part of the season where it just seemed like they

905
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: didn't care about being the best version of themselves.

906
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: Hey, Jason, love the show.

907
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: What do you think of Josh Green and Nick Richards

908
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: from the Hornets to the Lakers? For Vincent, Jalen hu

909
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: Chafino and Christian Wood. I'd like to know your thoughts

910
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: on the fit slash potential of that roster after the trade.

911
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: Appreciate your work on the show and hope you keep

912
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: it up.

913
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: Josh Green is actually a really interesting option is like

914
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: a you know, there's a lot of Lakers fans that

915
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: are anti benching Max Christie, right, So like when I say, like,

916
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: let's go get Bruce Brown, there's a lot of Lakers

917
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: fans who are like, oh, well, Max Christy's a better shooter.

918
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: Max Christy just had twenty something points in a game,

919
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: like we should go with Max Christy. And like, my

920
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: thing with that is like, I don't want to be

921
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: relying on a very young guard who doesn't have any

922
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: playoff experience when we get into a big spot, and

923
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: I'd rather rely on Bruce Brown, who's a champion, who's

924
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: literally played a substantial role at the same position for

925
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: a championship team and done it for four rounds. Right,

926
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: So like I that's why I was like talking about

927
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: that type of upgrade. But let's say you're like, Okay,

928
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: we need to come up with an option where maybe

929
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: we don't depend on Max in a big spot, but

930
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: we also keep Max in the starting lineup so he

931
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: gets tons of reps and we can ride out Max's

932
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: good games. Because ideally that's what you want if you're

933
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: saying that Max's shooting is upside and you think Max's

934
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: ceiling is higher than some of these other guys, then okay.

935
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: Another option would be Max keeps starting. Max plays every time,

936
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 1: every time he's in a big game. But he's playing well,

937
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: you just ride it out and let him play. But hey,

938
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: I would like to have a veteran option at the

939
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: same position that's not as small as Gabe Vincent, not

940
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: as bad of a shooter as Cam Reddish, but like

941
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: a guy that you can put into that spot that's

942
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: like a really high floor option. A guy that's like

943
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: a good defender, good shooter, good closeout attacker, good size.

944
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: Maybe not the guy who's gonna go for twenty five

945
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: on any given night, but the guy that's not gonna

946
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: have the absolute nightmare game that you can count on

947
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: doing your job. Josh Green is a great example of that.

948
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: He's got good size, he's a forty three point shooter,

949
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: He's played in big playoff games. He's a good athlete.

950
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: He's got like kind of a trunky, like fire hydrant

951
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: kind of build to him, which is my favorite type

952
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: of guard archetype. If you have him, you can play

953
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: him in a ben roll. You can basically get the

954
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: deal done for Gabe Vincent in one of the minimum contracts. Right,

955
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: So you sent out gave Vincent and instead you have

956
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: Josh Green. And then basically the idea there is is

957
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: Josh Green is your bench guard, and on the nights

958
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: when Max isn't a better option, or Max isn't as

959
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: focused as he needs to be, or he's losing his confidence,

960
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: let's go with Josh Green. You know that's really my

961
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: thing is like I just don't want to depend on

962
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: Ruey and I don't want to depend on Max. Dorian

963
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: Phinney Smith is the higher floor, lower ceiling version of

964
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: version of Ruey Hachimura. A guy like Josh Green would

965
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: be the higher floor, lower ceiling version of Max. There

966
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: might be games where it's like, dude, Rui's bullying everybody

967
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: under the basket and he's hitting all his threes. We

968
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: don't need to use Dorian Phinney Smith much. We can

969
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: play Ruey thirty five minutes tonight, right, Or the same

970
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: thing goes for Max Christy. But then you have those

971
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: options Dorian and a guy like Josh Green. Hey, Ruy's

972
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: losing shooters and not paying attention and just not hitting shots,

973
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: and he just looks like he's this is not the

974
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: right game for him. Okay, well here comes Dorian Finny Smith.

975
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: Same thing goes from Max. Here comes a guy like

976
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: Josh Green. I really like that option, the backup center piece. Again,

977
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: I just when I look at how well Christian Kaloko

978
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: has been playing, I just don't believe in using assets

979
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: on a backup center. So yeah, if you can get

980
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: a guy that is discounted, sure whatever. But like I,

981
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: I you know how I am with backup centers. I've

982
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: been talking about this forever. I just don't necessarily see

983
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: it as a big enough deal. Like I we just

984
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: watched the Lakers get a win without Anthony Davis, So

985
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: like I I am not as intent on tracking down

986
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: a backup center as everyone else is. That's not to

987
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: say you don't do it if it's an easy like

988
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: I've seen some people talk about, like well, what if

989
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: you just go get Kessler Edwards without any like, like

990
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: you can get Kesler Edwards with like I think it's

991
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: like Jalen Houchafino and you know, one first round pick. Yeah, sure,

992
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: if you want to do something like that and you

993
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: don't want to use that first round pick on something else,

994
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: that's one thing but like, like I don't I don't

995
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: want to be like sending out good wings for for

996
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: a backup center that that to me just feels like

997
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: robbing Peter to pay Paul. Last question, what is your

998
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: note taking process while watching games to prepare for the videos?

999
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: Interested to see your thought process and mindset, especially compared

1000
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: to how a casual fan would think about certain plays.

1001
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: So basically, I, you know, it's so funny. I remember

1002
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: talking to Ethan Strauss about this the first time I

1003
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: went on his show. But like the way that I've

1004
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: always looked at my show is like I've always been

1005
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: obsessed with like the story of basketball games. That's why

1006
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: I do more like instant reaction content than big picture

1007
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: content compared to some other people who are in this space.

1008
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: I love instant reaction content because I think basketball games

1009
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: are very fascinating, like the journey of games, the way

1010
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: things start, the runs that are made, the way things

1011
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: close right, and you know, one of the originating things

1012
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: for you know, how I kind of started doing this

1013
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: for a living is like I used to sit with

1014
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: my buddies after a pickup game or after a men's

1015
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: league game, or after watching a game, and we just

1016
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: talk about how the game went. Now, we did this

1017
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: really well. Yeah, I remember when we remember when you

1018
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: and like there was a game we played the Air

1019
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: Force Base team. We scrimmaged. I played with a group

1020
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: of guys that are just all kind of like mid

1021
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: thirties type of dudes that all played in college or

1022
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: played professionally overseas stuff like that. And we scrimmage against

1023
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: Juco's Air Force based teams, other club teams, things along

1024
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: those lines, just for fun. It's just a way for

1025
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: us to stay attached to the game, right, And like

1026
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: there was a game where we played an air Force

1027
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: Base team and like me and one of my buddies

1028
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: like spammed this two man game like over and over

1029
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: again in the second half and just cooked them with

1030
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: this exact same action basically like a kind of like

1031
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: a ghost screen action with another wing player. And it's

1032
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: like we sat on the sideline after the game and

1033
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: it was like hell yeah, like like we we were

1034
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: killing them with that, you know, or like you know,

1035
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: you discuss a defensive thing that you did, like oh

1036
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: when we switched that matchup and we got way better. Liked,

1037
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: we had a money tournament where we ended up in

1038
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: the double elimination round, and we lost the first game,

1039
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: and so we had to go back and we had

1040
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: to beat them twice to win the money. And we

1041
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: made an adjustment where like I was guarding this like

1042
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: big six ' ten like forward who could really shoot

1043
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: the ball, and he was hitting some shots over the

1044
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: top of me. Like I was playing like perfect defense

1045
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: and getting good contests, and the dude was just hitting shots.

1046
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: And then my buddy Kaylan was guarding a kind of

1047
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: a bully ball wing and he's Kaylan's really lanky, is

1048
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: about an inch taller than me, and he's a better athlete,

1049
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: but he's about twenty five thirty pounds later, and he

1050
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: was guarding this big bullyball forward and that dude was

1051
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: just going through him all game long, and so both

1052
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: of us were struggling with our defensive matchups. When we

1053
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: got back to play them again to have our chance

1054
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: to beat them twice to win the money, we switched.

1055
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: I guarded the bigger forward, he guarded the lankier wing.

1056
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: He locked his ass up. I locked the other dude's

1057
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: ass up, and we won the money, you know, Like,

1058
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: and we spent a bunch of time after the game,

1059
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: just like sitting on the sidelines while we can barely walk.

1060
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: Who played six games in one day, and we're talking

1061
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: about how he did this thing that helped us get

1062
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: regain control of a situation that was going out of control.

1063
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: I've always been obsessed with the individual basketball games, in

1064
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: the way that they are won, in the way that

1065
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: they are lost. And so what I inevitably end up

1066
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: doing when I'm watching these NBA games is I just

1067
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: have my notes open and.

1068
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: I just watch.

1069
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: And as I'm watching, if I see a trend like, hey,

1070
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: they're doing damage because of this matchup. They're doing damage

1071
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: because of that matchup. They're doing damage because of this

1072
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: schematic thing. They're doing damage because of this schematic adjustment,

1073
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: I'll just make a note of it. And so I

1074
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: kind of just have bullet points, and I do it

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Speaker 1: by player and team. So I'll have like the team,

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Speaker 1: and I'll have the players, and I'll just list bullet points.

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Speaker 1: So like, for instance, I'll put like, oh, mchal Bridges

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Speaker 1: is doing some damage to Shake Kills with Alexander in

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Speaker 1: the post, and then he just did it to Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Joe too, So like mckail Bridges is punishing some of

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Speaker 1: these Oklahoma City Guards in the post. I'll just like

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Speaker 1: put that in the notes, and then it'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Knicks are running a pretty deep drop

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Speaker 1: with Cat, so there's gonna be quite a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, Jalen and Shay needing to hit mid range

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Speaker 1: jump shots. And I'll just kind of like make that

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Speaker 1: a note, you know. And then I'll basically just make

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Speaker 1: notes throughout the game and it's kind of like a

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Speaker 1: shit show. And then when I'm done watching the game,

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Speaker 1: I go back to my notes and I try to

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Speaker 1: organize it in a way that helps me kind of

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Speaker 1: tell the story of the game, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But basically that's the point. So like like I do

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Speaker 1: like rough notes, and then I refine my notes and

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Speaker 1: then I go from there. But essentially, I'm always just

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Speaker 1: obsessed with like the story of basketball games. That to

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Speaker 1: me is one of my favorite things to talk about

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Speaker 1: on the show, and that's why we do the instant

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Speaker 1: reaction content that we do. All right, guys, It's all

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Speaker 1: I have for today is always to sincerely appreciate you

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Speaker 1: for supporting me and supporting the show. Again, I may

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Speaker 1: do a show depending on how things go. As I'm

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Speaker 1: packing for the ski trip tomorrow morning. But I will

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Speaker 1: absolutely be back to work next week in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the week, either on Tuesday night or Wednesday, depending

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Speaker 1: on when I get back from my ski trip. But

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Speaker 1: we have a jam pack slate on that Tuesday night.

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Speaker 1: We have Lakers MAVs and we have our first Nuggets

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Speaker 1: Celtics matchup of the season, so like we'll be getting

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Speaker 1: into that as well as some power inankings and stuff

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Speaker 1: either on I'll probably do the power inkings for sure

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, but we may or may not do an

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Speaker 1: instant reaction on Tuesday, depending on when I get back.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you guys know. Just keep keep tabs on

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Speaker 1: my Twitter feed and I'll let you guys know how

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Speaker 1: things go. Again, I sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting

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Speaker 1: me and supporting the show. If I don't see you tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: then I will see you in the middle of next week.

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Speaker 2: See you guys then.

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Speaker 1: The volume.

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Speaker 2: What's up guys?

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Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate you for listening to and supporting

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Speaker 1: OOPS tonight. It would actually be really helpful for us

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Speaker 1: if you guys would take a second and leave a

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Speaker 1: rating and a review. As always, I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: supporting us, but if you could take a minute to

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Speaker 1: do that, I'd really appreciate it.