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Speaker 1: have a guest today, guys. I know that you'll have
Speaker 1: been y'all have been like we've been giving out a
Speaker 1: lot of little so low with us, but we went
Speaker 1: ahead and UM brought a guy into the village. Now.
Speaker 1: If you guys have been watching our social media, I
Speaker 1: posted on the Horrible Decisions page and my own UM
Speaker 1: looking for interesting guests, right, people that would be either
Speaker 1: kinky or we could you know, just figure out what
Speaker 1: kind of lifestyle they have going on. And there's someone
Speaker 1: in the student with us today. If you're watching YouTube,
Speaker 1: you're going to see a blurry little blob on the stream.
Speaker 1: But we can tell you. Let's talk. Let's describe. First off,
Speaker 1: I'm this is interesting for this conversation. So before we
Speaker 1: started filming, I said, Nick, I don't believe you because
Speaker 1: this man, this man is fine as across. You are
Speaker 1: a good character. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Well,
Speaker 1: now I judged your character just on the outside. You
Speaker 1: look good. You probably still ain't shit, but you look
Speaker 1: nice from the outside. And then you also don't grib
Speaker 1: what he looks like. So we have a black man
Speaker 1: in the studio. Yeah, I would say, what are you
Speaker 1: six to? Okay, but now a great smile. There's some
Speaker 1: tattoos there. He came in with a button up baldhead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bald head, very kind of chinky at and tall, tall,
Speaker 1: dark and handsome. And the reason that he's in the
Speaker 1: studio today is because he said that he would be
Speaker 1: a great deest guest for a Sugar Daddy episode. Now
Speaker 1: I didn't believe him. I don't believe him now. Way
Speaker 1: that I did meet our guests, Mr Big is because
Speaker 1: I was doing it back to school donation thing, and
Speaker 1: he did send me some money for how much money
Speaker 1: you sent? Remember? Remember? Not enough? I think I just
Speaker 1: sent you. Actually I do remember I sent him one
Speaker 1: list because you know, you gotta gage how much somebody
Speaker 1: gonna spend. He was like, now you can send me more.
Speaker 1: I like sending sending the good the good item. I
Speaker 1: don't remember what it was for me, Like no, Like,
Speaker 1: so I have two Amazon wish lists. I get that,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying you still have two different ones, like
Speaker 1: on one list, like even if you go to a
Speaker 1: baby shower, you got the friend that knows who to
Speaker 1: ask for papers, then you got the one who knows
Speaker 1: who to ask for a swing. Right, I wanted you know,
Speaker 1: so not the sex one. You know, not the sex No,
Speaker 1: not the sex wing. So I'm interested to know Mr
Speaker 1: Biggs a little more about it. So we just want
Speaker 1: to break the heights with a few questions. Now I
Speaker 1: want to know. We got five questions here. Would you
Speaker 1: rather have an assertive or a submissive woman? Submissive? It
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter, she's gonna end up being submissive. Okay,
Speaker 1: excuse the funk out of it. No, I already looked
Speaker 1: at the fingers. There's no rains. Now. Would you rather
Speaker 1: have a woman with no sexual experiences at all? Or
Speaker 1: an escort? Are those opposites? Does that even? I'm going
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go x escort right because listen,
Speaker 1: you know you can't the first time you touch a basketball,
Speaker 1: you can't say all right now, I'm gonna play against
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. I like that. Okay, gotta get I asked
Speaker 1: that question because the SV conversation is very like, oh, prostitute,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. I kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to see what you would say because I've seen on
Speaker 1: a lot of profiles men will say things like no professionals,
Speaker 1: and I want to get into that with you too. Um.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have a woman who is not into
Speaker 1: threesomes or any kind of kinky sex or a woman
Speaker 1: that love kink, loves kinky sex and threesomes but only
Speaker 1: mmf so two men? Oh nah, we'll go. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go with option a vanilla. Yeah, if it's only with
Speaker 1: other dudes, you are you? I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in the same you know, I have none against the
Speaker 1: home sexual community. It's just, you know, i'd rather not
Speaker 1: be around some dick. Do you find yourself to be
Speaker 1: a kinky person? Though? Depends on whose standards, you know,
Speaker 1: but I probably seemed pretty mild, you know, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: would you rather have a woman p on you or
Speaker 1: p on them? You gotta pick? I gotta pe. I
Speaker 1: gotta pick some p you gotta pick. Yeah, you gotta pick.
Speaker 1: I'd rather you keep. Okay, I'd rather no one p
Speaker 1: on anyone. That's not my ship. Yeah, there was just
Speaker 1: the standard, so you vanilla? All right? Hey, listen, if
Speaker 1: I gotta that was allowed, if I gotta pick, okay,
Speaker 1: real quick. And this isn't name on there? So is
Speaker 1: there is there any anal play at all going on?
Speaker 1: Would you a girl in the ass or could she
Speaker 1: put her finger in your butt? Oh? I'd rather in
Speaker 1: the as Okay? Yeah, ok yeah, yeah, yeah, rather lick
Speaker 1: toes or eat ass. I'm going with the that's the
Speaker 1: vanilla ship, my nig. You're really not that kinky at all. Okay.
Speaker 1: You know what that was exciting because I think the
Speaker 1: last person we had those pretty vanilla was Jesse Woo
Speaker 1: and then I think you just did a show with Carlon, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty vanilla, Um, But I like your pretty vanilla at
Speaker 1: this point, man, what do you want to do? Kick about? Listen?
Speaker 1: Vanilla people are allowed van other people listen to this show,
Speaker 1: and the basis of you being on here is us Really,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like you at this point, you're like
Speaker 1: an easy as sugar daddy in real life. Like you
Speaker 1: look good and you ain't you only want to kinky show.
Speaker 1: We haven't even got he easiest at this point. You're
Speaker 1: an easy trick. That's what me and my friends will
Speaker 1: call you. Girl. He easy, that's the easy one. It's
Speaker 1: easy one. You're an easy trick, all right, go ahead?
Speaker 1: He could be cheat, all right, That's probably what it is.
Speaker 1: So I want to get into our Vanilla ships segment, okay,
Speaker 1: which is our segment where we talk about sex in
Speaker 1: the news. Um, I want to talk about Colin Kaepernick
Speaker 1: with a woman whose name I won't say, but he
Speaker 1: Um was outed by this woman because he asked her
Speaker 1: to book rome flight because he wanted to know her
Speaker 1: true intentions. Now, I want to know your thoughts on
Speaker 1: this as a man with money as someone who works
Speaker 1: in media and you're popular so to speak. Have you
Speaker 1: ever had a girl spend money to try to prove
Speaker 1: their love to you or like prove their interests or
Speaker 1: that they're not using you? No, because I don't give
Speaker 1: a funk like they like, I don't want her to
Speaker 1: be interested in me. Like that's the point that I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want that. So you find that
Speaker 1: if a woman is doing all that that it's like
Speaker 1: she's getting too far. Yeah, that's that's the whole point
Speaker 1: of this, like of why I got I got into
Speaker 1: um sugar sugaring, that's the term. Yes, that's dope. I
Speaker 1: just learned that, um but for sugaring, because you know,
Speaker 1: I don't have the time nor the will to be
Speaker 1: some more boyfriend. When's the last time you've dated? I
Speaker 1: don't know, last time. Some bitch convinced me to do
Speaker 1: that three years time. It's time. It's funny because I
Speaker 1: oftentimes when when I have dealt with sugar daddies in
Speaker 1: the past, or dealt or matt men who were into it,
Speaker 1: a lot of times it is because they're emotionally unavailable.
Speaker 1: So normally by marriage, which is why I was looking
Speaker 1: at your hand and saw no ring. So it's odd
Speaker 1: to me that you are a single man who just listen, bitch,
Speaker 1: don't catch feelings. I'm gonna pay for you kind of
Speaker 1: not to catch feelings, which a lot of athletes do
Speaker 1: the same thing. Were talking about how you were saying
Speaker 1: in one episode I think we did on Patreon how
Speaker 1: married sugar daddies are the best because they're more more unavailable,
Speaker 1: absolutely but emotionally unavailable. And not only that, it allows
Speaker 1: the woman to kind of know her role as well, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie if I'm dealing with a man
Speaker 1: that looks like you, and even though he's spending money,
Speaker 1: if I'm giving you the jffee, which is a girlfriend experience,
Speaker 1: it leaves me room to catch feelings as a woman,
Speaker 1: even though I know what the situation is. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of open. He's available. Technically now I may try
Speaker 1: to try to take you since I know you're available
Speaker 1: a married nigga. If if he's paying my bills and
Speaker 1: he's my sugar daddy, I'm able to in my mind
Speaker 1: mentally know what my role is in this and I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna give him the experience he won't keep get
Speaker 1: my coins and keep it trucking. I've never felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've never felt like a single sugar daddy's
Speaker 1: like I had never had a married one. I've never
Speaker 1: had it just never happened to me. But I I
Speaker 1: just felt like they wanted to be single because they
Speaker 1: knew they was gonna be Hold. Well, that's just what
Speaker 1: I don't have. The like, how could you be single
Speaker 1: and cute and doing this, Like clearly you want nothing
Speaker 1: for me. I felt that what I've heard from like
Speaker 1: just even listening to pods and ship like that, Like
Speaker 1: married men have caught more feelings than the single niggas well.
Speaker 1: It's also because they're with women, if they're seeking women
Speaker 1: outside of their marriage, because they're only talking to one
Speaker 1: other person, they realized, oh my god, you're doing this
Speaker 1: better than my wife. Blah bla blah blah blah, what
Speaker 1: would life be like with you? Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: they're seeking they're either something they're not getting um, but
Speaker 1: that's also their responsibility for setting up this arrangement, not
Speaker 1: to catch feelings. So so yeah, so so would you
Speaker 1: I guess I guess you asked the question do you
Speaker 1: know of any of your friends like that maybe have
Speaker 1: experienced that, like where because I've talked about this on
Speaker 1: Twitter and I feel like a lot of women will
Speaker 1: try to go have on a date, or try fly
Speaker 1: themselves out or do these things to make themselves more appealing.
Speaker 1: So when you reach out to women, is the independent
Speaker 1: woman not attractive to you? I mean for friendship? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, you know it'd be cool.
Speaker 1: It's like it's I want I like the I just
Speaker 1: like that term, okay because it um it provides a
Speaker 1: certain level of compliance. Oh you know ly, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: an arrangement, That's what it is. Like she is not
Speaker 1: here for it, but it is. She just asked me
Speaker 1: to be in look on asshole one getting I'm interested
Speaker 1: in knowing this. So I hear you on the independence part,
Speaker 1: Like it's not really relative, But how do you find
Speaker 1: it when a girl has nothing? Let's say she arrives
Speaker 1: and she needs cash to like she won't get some
Speaker 1: neat and you gotta buy some neat like are you
Speaker 1: go away? And she's like can you now? How does
Speaker 1: that feel? How does it go from needy to like
Speaker 1: attractive for you? What's too broke? Because I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I can't see how a girl could have nothing and
Speaker 1: that be attractive answer. I have an answered to this,
Speaker 1: but go ahead, and I would love her because because
Speaker 1: I feel like that was such like a woman way
Speaker 1: of thinking. Like I've I've seen bitches flipping burgers that
Speaker 1: I thought was hot, you know, and I've also seen chicks,
Speaker 1: you know, in corporate office. I don't I just don't
Speaker 1: give a fun right now, I'm talking in terms like
Speaker 1: I guess what I mean is the lieout things because
Speaker 1: some women on seeking arrangement, which is what me and
Speaker 1: you talked about before, and I don't want to jump
Speaker 1: in that too early, talk about requiring cash before they arrive.
Speaker 1: Has that happened to you? I mean, listen, honestly, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I got my own business. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: running ship, you know, doing like big deals, and I've
Speaker 1: been negotiating for a long time. So some fucking twenty
Speaker 1: year old bitch ain't going to negotiate me. Man right
Speaker 1: right the first time? You know they like it puts me.
Speaker 1: I have a strategic advantage in that scenario. But I
Speaker 1: like what you also said when you were like, I
Speaker 1: find I find a female flipping burger is interesting. I
Speaker 1: think it is because a lot of well, well, and
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of time, um, kind of
Speaker 1: how we perceive things to be. However, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I was that bitch that couldn't afford another one way
Speaker 1: if you know, he didn't buy my round trip, like
Speaker 1: I was that bitch who slept on an air mattress before.
Speaker 1: Because I'm eighteen years old in my own apartment with
Speaker 1: not enough money to buy furniture. Yees, So I will
Speaker 1: say that, and even ship. While I was in school,
Speaker 1: I was living off student loans and whatever niggas was
Speaker 1: given me. But during that time, I will say, the
Speaker 1: men who looked out and I won't call them my
Speaker 1: sugar daddies because they listened to the show, but they're
Speaker 1: my friends. Um. They looked out for me in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, but it's also because they saw me
Speaker 1: working towards something. And I'm not gonna lie. A lot
Speaker 1: of them felt like they were I don't want to
Speaker 1: say captain save a holes, but they loved to know
Speaker 1: that they were the reason why I was able to
Speaker 1: do anything like like, I do find some gratification, gratification
Speaker 1: in that, you know, like, you know she can fucking
Speaker 1: now she got a computer to use. You gotta think men,
Speaker 1: like a lot of these young girls men there their
Speaker 1: their their life could be turbulent, you know, uh lack
Speaker 1: of lack of money, you know, And absolutely I want
Speaker 1: to get into that with like the age and the
Speaker 1: ideal of sugar baby looking for in a minute. But
Speaker 1: before we do that, um, every week we do a
Speaker 1: kink where we talk about paraphilias and what they mean.
Speaker 1: So I found one called psychrophilia, and it's, uh, psychrophiliacs
Speaker 1: have fantasies of watching people freeze, like freezes in cold
Speaker 1: or freezes in everything. You still have a freeze? Are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Like freeze? Like literally, like did you
Speaker 1: look into this? I need to know, like shivering, it's
Speaker 1: like girls that are like shaking. It's like icicles dripping
Speaker 1: from people and sickles dripping from people. You did. But
Speaker 1: then but then I was just like, oh what if it?
Speaker 1: Like you know, because I always try to take each
Speaker 1: kink that we do and try to take it to
Speaker 1: a little normal of a place or something we've done.
Speaker 1: I'm like I was using ice last night. No, that's
Speaker 1: not the same you can't bring up using ice as
Speaker 1: liking people who freeze. Okay, it's definitely not liking people
Speaker 1: who freeze. But I wonder if that's more of like
Speaker 1: a cold No, I mean I say this thing like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want you're gonna get like cold, like yes, like
Speaker 1: in the snow snow? Oh have you Well, I'm not
Speaker 1: like I want to ask you this question. You're a
Speaker 1: and if you were to be in the snow or
Speaker 1: I mean even say maybe fucking in super cold water,
Speaker 1: don't your dick shrink? They don't shrink in the cold. Done,
Speaker 1: the cryo shrinks. It shrinks in the cold. But like
Speaker 1: when if you have an erection is different because like
Speaker 1: the blood rushes, Oh, your skin is shriveling your I
Speaker 1: don't know, so you could have a hard dick in
Speaker 1: the cold. I didn't one of those what's it the cryo?
Speaker 1: What's it called the cry out therapy? Me and Alex?
Speaker 1: What is this? So you get in the tube and
Speaker 1: it's like below nitrogen. So I do cry of facials
Speaker 1: once a week is really good. I won't have to
Speaker 1: once the win or come. But like you know, it
Speaker 1: like makes your skin all glowy. So I go with
Speaker 1: Alex read the gym. He's going first, and he's looking
Speaker 1: down right and you can only see it from the neck.
Speaker 1: He's like, bro, my dick is like going in my
Speaker 1: body shriving. And then he's asking the nigga who's laughing.
Speaker 1: He's like, this is happening. Everybody does this happening everybody?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, everybody in the gym was talking
Speaker 1: about that, like all of your can like everything. Just
Speaker 1: I don't know if your dick like hides like a turtle,
Speaker 1: you know, it just goes back in. Well maybe if
Speaker 1: it's uncircumcised, right, Circumcised dicks don't hide level of cold,
Speaker 1: Like that's like a un natural level code. Like the
Speaker 1: crowd there be goes like two four, What you gotta try.
Speaker 1: It's it's really good for like if your muscles now.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound interesting to me. I don't know why
Speaker 1: you've been trying to get me to do white people ship.
Speaker 1: I'm just not interested because me doing it always do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't know athlete. I make them warm.
Speaker 1: So sugar, I want to give you the floor. Mr Bigs.
Speaker 1: Tell us how you started? How long ago you started?
Speaker 1: All right? So I would be in a I found
Speaker 1: myself in a dilemma where, you know, really I'm focusing
Speaker 1: on like other things, you know, trying to conflise things,
Speaker 1: you know, and and I wouldn't have the time or
Speaker 1: the wherewithal to devote, you know, attention to a relationship.
Speaker 1: With attention, it deserves your relationship for real. So I
Speaker 1: was like, but at the same time, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: I still want some pussy, right, So good questions about
Speaker 1: the middle range. I'm thirty eight, okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So you're thirty eight because a lot of times when
Speaker 1: women think of sugar daddies, we think of seventy year old,
Speaker 1: eight year old white men who are just about to die. Ye,
Speaker 1: my misconception as well. Like until I said, see how
Speaker 1: I got into it because I was thinking, all right,
Speaker 1: you know I would, I would stay these girls. And like,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, man, A lot of times, tell me,
Speaker 1: if you guys had this experience, if a girl like
Speaker 1: likes you, sometimes some girls won't fuck you. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, another n she knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: And I'm doing that right now. Yeah, yeah, you fucking
Speaker 1: someone else because you're trying to make someone else, the
Speaker 1: guy that I'm interested in, and that the guy that like, man,
Speaker 1: he's doing everything right and he's not getting pussy. You see.
Speaker 1: You see it's okay. I understand the logic. I understand him,
Speaker 1: and I think that there could be more. And I
Speaker 1: feel like sex is going to ruin it too early.
Speaker 1: But I know I can just get a dick from
Speaker 1: a nigga and ship. So that's what I'm doing with you.
Speaker 1: Expect imagine. Okay, So with you, what's the problem. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be that. You just don't want to
Speaker 1: be the nigga that don't get pussy. Well, he's saying
Speaker 1: he's gonna do the right thing. He's gonna take him
Speaker 1: to dinner, he's gonna treat them well, so it may
Speaker 1: push the pussy away, right, Yeah, so I can I
Speaker 1: can understand that. I was thinking, all right, well, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll portray myself as more of a motherfucking asshole. Um,
Speaker 1: but that's really not who I am. Like, I'm not
Speaker 1: like a mean person or a bad guy like. So
Speaker 1: I thought maybe you would like repelled them from thinking
Speaker 1: that that wouldn't work out or or it would have
Speaker 1: the opposite effect, you know. Um where the girls might
Speaker 1: like you more, right, because you're mean to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've been sugaring for how long maybe let's call it,
Speaker 1: let's call it like mm hmmm for a minute. But
Speaker 1: let's let's about about eight years okay, okay, and you've
Speaker 1: had about how many sugars you've had about how many
Speaker 1: sugar babies over the span of that started. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've spent money on women and giving them money,
Speaker 1: But when did you start using websites? That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that that that may have been that it may
Speaker 1: have been like five years ago. Okay, So like Sinking
Speaker 1: Arrangement was the website that you brought up to me?
Speaker 1: Have you used any other ones? Um? Now? Because that
Speaker 1: one is just the one I know? And it was
Speaker 1: more like, uh, it's out there as towards very transparent
Speaker 1: what's going on. There's no ambiguity about what do you
Speaker 1: have your face on there? Have you have you met
Speaker 1: like have you ever flown a woman in from seeking arrangement?
Speaker 1: About flown them in? No? No, it isn't. Girls around
Speaker 1: you live in New York. You can search it's like different,
Speaker 1: you know, like, no, guys who use tender and stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: you can't search race, No, you can't. You can't. Really
Speaker 1: what are you typing in? I'm interested? What is your preference?
Speaker 1: And what kind of woman? What kind of woman? White? Blond? White?
Speaker 1: Why do you think that think that? Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: you let me let me. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: it saying I thought I thought we could be transparent.
Speaker 1: We're being very transparent. I feel like I can't say it.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you don't. It's don't sound bad, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I'll say. You don't like one of the black guys
Speaker 1: that like white girls. You look like you couldn't really
Speaker 1: be on that and the fact that black men that
Speaker 1: get to a certain level sometimes or like even if
Speaker 1: you it sounds like to be able to pay for it,
Speaker 1: like you really want it, right, And there's something like
Speaker 1: I think it may be harder for you to meet
Speaker 1: white women that you want and that to like start
Speaker 1: like every type of black guy when we go to
Speaker 1: all white places. You know in there, just because he's
Speaker 1: a hot black guy doesn't mean that he could just
Speaker 1: get to all the white guls, right. It might be
Speaker 1: too taboosa. If you want to really just get it
Speaker 1: and make it your thing. I could see him going
Speaker 1: to look for that and paying for it. Because with
Speaker 1: black girls, it's a dub what they gonna be like,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, damn, he cute bit, you got
Speaker 1: a night drive, you got tapsy tall? He fine? Duh
Speaker 1: white girls. I mean not not to bring it back
Speaker 1: to that, but I feel like if we go back
Speaker 1: to the bullshit the guys we said, this is what,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're like the tall basketball player type
Speaker 1: looking like to me, he's a safe black guy too
Speaker 1: that he could That could probably be by saying they
Speaker 1: didn't like they wanted the thug. They were like, you know,
Speaker 1: he lives uptown. He's a real black guy. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know. So what is your type? What
Speaker 1: is your type? Do you put in slim and athletic?
Speaker 1: Put that in its black and Latino. I don't believe
Speaker 1: as at all. Oh now gonna pull out. You're so okay.
Speaker 1: So you're you're typing in black and Latina. What is
Speaker 1: the age range for your ideal Yeah, that's for your
Speaker 1: ideal question. Man. Um, First, I'm certain distance right, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm keeping you want them closer far close? Um,
Speaker 1: I like out of town? Yeah, what is the allowance
Speaker 1: that you have on your profile? Negotiable? Yeah, well when
Speaker 1: when they asked, like how much they want monthly? What's
Speaker 1: your cap? No? No, I'm the first rule negotiating is
Speaker 1: like you you never said the price first, you know,
Speaker 1: like you never you we're asking. Yeah, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: what I do, right, Like first of all, I want
Speaker 1: to know last time y'all yell at me said again
Speaker 1: you must not know all some real ship though, Um,
Speaker 1: no you don't. That's just how you negotiate, like you
Speaker 1: never know first, like saying you see with their prices
Speaker 1: and and you know and then you you work around. Well,
Speaker 1: my question is more is like your personal cap what
Speaker 1: is the max you're willing? Yeah, it depends how the
Speaker 1: most man. Uh, we got to know what type of
Speaker 1: sugar she was, Like the most is like twelve for
Speaker 1: a one night Oh okay, So that was my questions.
Speaker 1: He gave me an idea, but that was going to
Speaker 1: be my question when you set up these arrangements and
Speaker 1: she wasn't white when you set up these arrangements, Um,
Speaker 1: do you only pay a sugar baby after she gives
Speaker 1: you sex? Or are there gifts and money before sex
Speaker 1: takes place, she might get dinner or something. She might
Speaker 1: come and she might company me to dinner. Okay, And
Speaker 1: how many dinners are you going to before you're expecting sex?
Speaker 1: Since this is the arrangement, I'm having sex immediately after
Speaker 1: on the first date. Now, how do you how do
Speaker 1: you have that conversation because a lot of times, like
Speaker 1: so I was on seeking arrangement, like when I was
Speaker 1: maybe I'd say eighteen through two, um, and so like
Speaker 1: I would go to dinner and like they would bring
Speaker 1: the cash and I'd be like, okay, so this must
Speaker 1: be just no, no, no, and they would give me cash.
Speaker 1: I would take the cash and then be like, well,
Speaker 1: I'll see you again now shout out for that lay
Speaker 1: mass niked. I was kind of going the first time
Speaker 1: and they were telling me that, you know, this is
Speaker 1: how they want to show me they're interested in me.
Speaker 1: Now I'm learning because I've been talking to a few
Speaker 1: girls on Instagram the PPM pay per meat, So do
Speaker 1: you have that discussion before you gets I have the
Speaker 1: whole discussion, man. So basically it's like we start talking about, like, so,
Speaker 1: what kind of like she'ld be looking for right in there?
Speaker 1: And they were like, oh, let me give us some
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I don't really give a funk what
Speaker 1: they say, right, And then I'll say um, and then
Speaker 1: I'll say, all right, what you're thinking like some long
Speaker 1: term or payper meat, right, And then they'll they'll say
Speaker 1: either one. I don't give a funk what they say.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, all right, well, let's start
Speaker 1: off with like, you know, the paper meat you no
Speaker 1: matter what they say. And then and then like they
Speaker 1: they're they're in a bad situation like with me, right,
Speaker 1: because like I negotiate for a living. What I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: so it's what was that? Was? That was that? For?
Speaker 1: So I'm making this I know I'm making this space
Speaker 1: first off, because to me, sugaring like how you're describing
Speaker 1: it to me is more tricking on prostitute than sugaring
Speaker 1: only because and I've had this conversation with a lot
Speaker 1: of my friends, because I mean, maybe I'm blessed with
Speaker 1: the with the guys that I've had um in my
Speaker 1: life over the years, but they live in a different
Speaker 1: state cities, and I could literally call them and ask
Speaker 1: for money and I'm getting it without having it evolved,
Speaker 1: evolve that. Okay, I'm gonna say I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's what anybody thinks they're signing
Speaker 1: up forever. That comes with tenure, that comes with time work,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, maybe, but the chances they're sent right, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: are both you and I if we did that, I
Speaker 1: bet it would be someone that we've known. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I only disagree with this because I have friends
Speaker 1: currently and they're they've bread bottoms, dinners, all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Well before money, before sugaring. I will say this to
Speaker 1: both of your points. What he's saying is not sugaring,
Speaker 1: and where you're saying what I can call the men
Speaker 1: and get that money, that's not sugaring either. Sugaring by
Speaker 1: definition is not a paper meat. However, seeking arrangement has
Speaker 1: made that a very normalized thing. Right. Sugaring by definition
Speaker 1: is either allowance cash or gifts, but it has no
Speaker 1: exchange during the actual act. That that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Then my fault. You just buying. You just be buying
Speaker 1: for Pussy's the thing. You just be buying pussy. That's
Speaker 1: what that's what he'd be doing. I'd rather do that
Speaker 1: because because but it can evolve into more of a
Speaker 1: relationship than you're talking about, and hopefully that's like, hopefully
Speaker 1: it does into something more like that where it's like, um,
Speaker 1: who one is more is more economical for me, But
Speaker 1: it's also probably puts her in a better position to like,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, for whatever it is she's
Speaker 1: trying to accomplish her knees and propose. Well, what is
Speaker 1: the ideal. Is it like a college girls more ideal
Speaker 1: for you? Is it a girl that has kids? Is
Speaker 1: it like someone that just needs to do this to
Speaker 1: get away? Like life? Man, I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: the girl with kids, like not really you the girl kids?
Speaker 1: I have? See you just say it? Really she had kids?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I don't think I sucked the girl
Speaker 1: after she had told Yeah. If that's the case, then yeah,
Speaker 1: oh I'm Lyne I the Niga Babby mama him. Oh
Speaker 1: I did that's right, but I had to Yeah, I
Speaker 1: forgot that is right, and she had about for kids,
Speaker 1: the kids. It just hasn't come up. Okay. So so
Speaker 1: here's here's my question to you as as a man,
Speaker 1: because we do have a lot of male listeners, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of a lot of our episodes
Speaker 1: have been they've been saying it was for the ladies,
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure we do some talking
Speaker 1: for the men. So if there's any men listening, how
Speaker 1: do you approach a woman outside of maybe okay, of
Speaker 1: course there's the website, But how do you get into
Speaker 1: these relationships where you say, Okay, I want to pay
Speaker 1: you and I don't want to be in a relationship
Speaker 1: with you. No, No, I don't. I don't like you know,
Speaker 1: because it becomes one, you know, especially with the climate
Speaker 1: right now, I feel like you offered money for sex. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, that's like that's like more than the meet
Speaker 1: them first, and it's like that kind of should happens online.
Speaker 1: Like if I meet a girl in person who I
Speaker 1: like men like, or if she likes me, unless he's
Speaker 1: trying to smash, I probably don't want to suk with her,
Speaker 1: right because she's gonna want to be my girl, having
Speaker 1: conversations like hey, I'm only looking for X y Z.
Speaker 1: Because it doesn't matter, No, it doesn't. They can say
Speaker 1: that if it's just still want more. You can always man,
Speaker 1: you can say you can say goddamn anything. You can
Speaker 1: say any the man you can say, listen, you know
Speaker 1: all that wanted to fun man? You know, Um, I
Speaker 1: kill people, I'm about to rob a bank. I want
Speaker 1: to play with that aids right, Maybe not the last one.
Speaker 1: Maybe not the last one. That's that's how you take
Speaker 1: it too far. Yeah, but my first relationship actually, and
Speaker 1: it's the reason that I refused to date married men
Speaker 1: because I feel like the carim was awful. I met
Speaker 1: a dude in the club Roxy and Orlando if Andy
Speaker 1: Orlando listeners. Um, he never told me he was married,
Speaker 1: never told me he's going through separation anything. Three months
Speaker 1: later I found out he had a wife, broke up
Speaker 1: with him, and then he left her and was with me.
Speaker 1: We were together for two years. And I always blame myself, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, even though I didn't know. And I
Speaker 1: really think it doesn't matter. And that's why, because chicks
Speaker 1: proved time and time again that it don't matter what
Speaker 1: you say, you might end up with me. And and
Speaker 1: it's other thigs that say they don't want nothing that
Speaker 1: things happen, which is why chicks really don't believe you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't speak for the boyfriend I had
Speaker 1: in Florida. Let you know do that Dad. It was like, Nope,
Speaker 1: I want this to be a one night stand, bam meeting.
Speaker 1: Mama's we in love talking about marriage. That's how ship.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and that's why. That's why to your point,
Speaker 1: I got into this ship in the first places, because
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to set expectations from the set.
Speaker 1: Do you ever have sex where you're not paying It's been,
Speaker 1: it's been, it has I don't remember the last time.
Speaker 1: Whoa And then because you're that scared of these girls
Speaker 1: having that emotional attachment to you and you just don't
Speaker 1: want to deal with that bad experience. You're that scared
Speaker 1: of emotional attachment because you might need to see a therapist.
Speaker 1: Let's the average you're paying per per per time you
Speaker 1: have sex. I'm trying to think, oh yeah, there or
Speaker 1: would be some girls who just like, you know, like
Speaker 1: just some you know, I'm paying some rents. I'm paying
Speaker 1: some rents and some phone building ahead and send s. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I get into those situations where where it becomes like
Speaker 1: a little bit more what's it. I mean these checks
Speaker 1: that you said, live in New York, what's the rent
Speaker 1: you pand oh man, Yeah, it's just some rints man. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm curious. It's like twelve in the Bronx. Yeah, yeah, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I was on the I was on the side right,
Speaker 1: and it's just like yo. She was like, yoo, can
Speaker 1: you give me uber from the Alright, broke? Don't First off, pause,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you're broke. I tell niggas all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking a train to go see no niggas.
Speaker 1: So if you want to see me, you're gonna pay
Speaker 1: my my uber and I live in the Bronx. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean I'm broke. I just don't want
Speaker 1: to pay my uber. Reaction that he had that was
Speaker 1: the same reaction that Andrew had, which is really interesting
Speaker 1: to me because you just said, and I feel like
Speaker 1: there's this underlying thing, right and I'm not shaming you,
Speaker 1: but like I've heard two men on the show say
Speaker 1: something like this about the uber thing, and I'm very
Speaker 1: interested to know what it is about that holds the
Speaker 1: whole reason I'm doing this ship is like one is
Speaker 1: to keep emotion on it, but also because I want
Speaker 1: to keep you convenient for me. Right now, she's adding
Speaker 1: levels of inconvenience right here, adding if I know I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with a man, hey, who I'm not putting no
Speaker 1: investment in, and you're paying for my pussy. What we're
Speaker 1: doing is sex. There's no reason why I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: the investment out of my pocket. Take it easy, now,
Speaker 1: you guys on entitled to that continue. I just don't
Speaker 1: mean I gotta like it, and I might thinking, all right, maybe,
Speaker 1: just maybe if I gotta get this bit every time
Speaker 1: if you don't work, I don't know, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because entitled to listen where I live
Speaker 1: on the Upper east Side. Okay, So anyway, so I
Speaker 1: get the fun I'm about to get and you don't.
Speaker 1: But then I'm thinking, not Harlem. Okay, that's true. Um,
Speaker 1: but let me search his address for quick man? Am
Speaker 1: I going? It's the project? I'm just curious. Right, it
Speaker 1: was high school and I was like the day wait,
Speaker 1: it was like high school. I didn't I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't even call it. Man, We'll watch out nig a lot.
Speaker 1: I think I might have right out of high school. Yo. Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, you can get I don't know
Speaker 1: what the age consent is here. I mean I was
Speaker 1: getting flown out of high school by NBA players. But
Speaker 1: I mean I was eighteen eighteen. I don't know, that's
Speaker 1: just now. I wouldn't want to pick up on a
Speaker 1: bitch from high school. So okay, it could have been
Speaker 1: the cops. So you're having you're having first date dinners, right,
Speaker 1: first date dinners, and then she's at dinner, but should
Speaker 1: have set up from the onset like oh great, So
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, if it goes well, can you come
Speaker 1: to my place? Yeah? OK, like I got Have you
Speaker 1: ever had such a great chemistry with a sugar baby
Speaker 1: that it came to where she didn't want you to pay?
Speaker 1: Like she didn't even care? Yeah? Yeah? Is that often?
Speaker 1: Like how does that work? I mean that that's happened. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's happened. Happened as women still trying to trying to
Speaker 1: shift the narrative, still trying to shift the narrative. It
Speaker 1: goes into the to the it goes out pretty frequently,
Speaker 1: you know, if if it's like something that prolonged, like
Speaker 1: if it's like after multiple times whatever, it's like, yes,
Speaker 1: she tries to she said, he I just want to know,
Speaker 1: you know, do you let it happen? Uh to a
Speaker 1: certain extent, you know, since you're acting a little cheap
Speaker 1: about it. It's not it's not it's not cheap. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's inconvenient for me. I'm just press are there any
Speaker 1: off limits? I'm entitled to feel like you got? I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess if you're paying for it every time and
Speaker 1: you attack on Uber from the Bronx, right, maybe forty bucks.
Speaker 1: So you're already saying I'm spending other hundred dollars. It's
Speaker 1: not even about that. It's just more like, all right, whatever,
Speaker 1: more steps. How often are you you said you haven't
Speaker 1: you can't remember the last time you didn't pay for it?
Speaker 1: How often are you having sex? Not that often? You know,
Speaker 1: Like I work really hard, you know, saying so like
Speaker 1: actually work more than everything. How many sugar babies do
Speaker 1: you have a rotation? Right now? You should have came
Speaker 1: with these answers more than five? No, we belt five? Man,
Speaker 1: But then it'll be it'll be like, have you ever
Speaker 1: gotten them together? Do you ever pay for like three
Speaker 1: SOMs or anything else that's like a little out there,
Speaker 1: I haven't, you know, I'd be down for it, but
Speaker 1: like I don't know. Man's like you said, I'm vanilla man.
Speaker 1: So I've had my fair share three somes. You know,
Speaker 1: I just feel like she's overrated. Man Like, I like,
Speaker 1: I like suing one chick more than I like three SOMs.
Speaker 1: So since you're not going to little emoil right now,
Speaker 1: you sound like me like one chick? Do you ever?
Speaker 1: Let's say, I think he just meant one chick at
Speaker 1: a time. They don't make him emo your emo, Like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I only want one dick in me.
Speaker 1: I can't do all these things, you know, I mean time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like one dude that one time too, though I
Speaker 1: like to get to know his body. I liked to.
Speaker 1: Do you ever like find that? So after you pay them, like,
Speaker 1: do you ever like them to? Do you pay for
Speaker 1: girlfriend experience? Do you find that since you are single,
Speaker 1: since you don't have anybody in your life, do you
Speaker 1: pay for them to kind of hang around? You like
Speaker 1: always always hanging around, Like it's always it's always kind
Speaker 1: of cool. It's never like a I haven't done that
Speaker 1: ship where it's like the opposite of that whatever that
Speaker 1: is out. Yeah, they always kick it. Yeah, it's always
Speaker 1: uh because I'm not trying to demean them or anything.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not a thing where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's good that you don't take it like that, like
Speaker 1: it's not an adversarial relationship. Now, have you used any
Speaker 1: escorting websites? Yeah, yeah, that's your favorite. That's different. That's like,
Speaker 1: that's a different subject. That's just straight up trying to
Speaker 1: get Yeah. Now see, I'll find that interesting because you're
Speaker 1: telling me that you're telling excuse me that you're not
Speaker 1: really doing gifts or anything like that. You do pay
Speaker 1: for me. But what's the difference then for you? And
Speaker 1: then you've noticed has been eight years between finding a
Speaker 1: girl on a sugar Daddy website and going to get
Speaker 1: an escort on a website. What are the two differences
Speaker 1: in these women? Well, for one, I might be the
Speaker 1: only guy. I might be the only guy at least
Speaker 1: the first guy she that day. That makes sense, That
Speaker 1: makes sense. That makes sense. My friend is on eros
Speaker 1: and she has a limit of six, but you won't know,
Speaker 1: like you don't know what number you are unless maybe
Speaker 1: you get her early in the morning. But then she
Speaker 1: could have had a really late night call. So that
Speaker 1: makes sense. When when when all of my friends, when
Speaker 1: we're on seeking arrangement, I've been on there. It's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of scams now on their um, a lot
Speaker 1: of cameras, or it's a lot of men on there
Speaker 1: that are on there not looking for a quote unquote professionals,
Speaker 1: but they're also not looking to pay that allowance because
Speaker 1: they do want girl friends and relationships and it's like,
Speaker 1: my nigga, you on the wrong site, go swipe on
Speaker 1: tender like it's really frustrating. But also, and I do
Speaker 1: want to make this announcement while we're speaking on seeking
Speaker 1: arrangement a lot, we've been getting a lot of messages
Speaker 1: asking about seeking. I will say, if anyone is on
Speaker 1: there asking for your bank account information, that is not
Speaker 1: the way sugaring or any of this works. Um, So
Speaker 1: do not ever send your bank account information over there either. Well,
Speaker 1: and if you're looking for cash, either meet him up
Speaker 1: on a date and ask for the cash, or you
Speaker 1: can do like a cash app. Um, that's the safe route.
Speaker 1: But if they're saying they can do cash app or PayPal,
Speaker 1: then honestly don't trust them because so it's a scamp.
Speaker 1: So there's a dating scam. And I only know this
Speaker 1: because I fucking went to Nigeria learned about it um,
Speaker 1: but it's called dating and basically Nigerians the scam. So
Speaker 1: Nigerians will um get on. They're using pictures. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: do use women as decoys, like for the phone calls,
Speaker 1: and they build relationships with men to send the money.
Speaker 1: So so or a lot of what do you mean?
Speaker 1: They get their bank accounts and now they have credit
Speaker 1: card it's like a part of the credit card scam.
Speaker 1: Now they can literally I don't know what technology they
Speaker 1: do to use it, but they'll either get your bank
Speaker 1: account information or for the other scamming part, this is
Speaker 1: for men possibly seeking women. They'll do it to where
Speaker 1: now they'll have a man like you who wants a
Speaker 1: woman but sending her money without ever meeting her type
Speaker 1: of man um. So there's that, but um, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I guess do you want to go ahead and jump
Speaker 1: into our our homemail segment or did you have any
Speaker 1: other questions? I didn't want to know about your worst experience?
Speaker 1: Oh the worst experience? Um, did you ever still have
Speaker 1: someone that wasn't who they said they were? Like? How
Speaker 1: did you get them? Yeah? You get a little less
Speaker 1: of that, right, I think I would imagine then you
Speaker 1: would on like Tinder or some ship. You know what.
Speaker 1: Bitches are kind of like enhancing their appearance a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean they definitely put their their best put foot
Speaker 1: forward in their their profile, but um, yeah, I find
Speaker 1: ways to mitigate that, like you know, like what's what's
Speaker 1: her Instagram or whatever? You like to see all you
Speaker 1: after checks on Instagram? I would I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like giving my Instagram out, not from seeking arrangement. I
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine being on a sugar babysitting giving out my
Speaker 1: Instagram because then you kind of like reveal yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. What's the closest you got to
Speaker 1: a sugar baby? Have you ever taken one to a
Speaker 1: family vacation? And if no, no no, but you know,
Speaker 1: just like places, you know what I'm saying, Ok, you
Speaker 1: have vacation. Okay, so I mean okay, I hear, yeah
Speaker 1: you know, um but no, like I keep those worlds separated,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like work women do they
Speaker 1: know your real name? And then I got yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not like I'm not sing Badman rights,
Speaker 1: like I'm nothero. But it's like, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know I feel like this makes me like a more
Speaker 1: what's the what's the word I'm looking for? You know,
Speaker 1: like you guys probably have a lot of guy friends
Speaker 1: who are probably just who you know, we're just trying
Speaker 1: to fun. You were waiting for the chance, okay, um,
Speaker 1: not trying to suck my female friends. Like it's like
Speaker 1: because I got I got bitches man, and it's like
Speaker 1: I don't need it. I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm a better friend to like my like legit female friends. Uh,
Speaker 1: definitely not trying to fun just at work and ship
Speaker 1: like to ship like like I got that part of
Speaker 1: my life handle. You know, Yeah, I mean sex works.
Speaker 1: It's great for those things. Like I mean, just imagine
Speaker 1: if there were a few men that felt like they
Speaker 1: could do this, I wouldn't cross that boundary line. I
Speaker 1: don't like to say that prostitution can stop rape, because
Speaker 1: rapist rape like nothing. But I can't understand what you're saying,
Speaker 1: like towing the line. You know, maybe men having these
Speaker 1: options and feeling more comfortable where they wouldn't mean trying
Speaker 1: random girls at your job, Like no, you can just
Speaker 1: been trying to work man, like you I've didn't hit
Speaker 1: on at work and it's terrible. Yeah, it's weird, man
Speaker 1: like's I think it's weird. I think it's weird when
Speaker 1: guys are trying to suck their friends man like their
Speaker 1: female I think it's just weird. I hate it. And
Speaker 1: once once you know your friend zoned, I know your
Speaker 1: friend zoned, and I don't want to take it past
Speaker 1: the friend zone when you let me know you like me,
Speaker 1: or like, oh you checked me out, or I look
Speaker 1: good sending me like I don't like like, we don't
Speaker 1: like that, We don't like. It's because they're pretending to
Speaker 1: be your friend. You just well, like okay, in the
Speaker 1: Animal Kingdom, right, the motherfucking gorillas and ship right, like
Speaker 1: the alpha gorilla he foks the badest gorilla bitches with,
Speaker 1: you know, with the biggest titties and the ship are
Speaker 1: you I'm assuming that this is just regularly heard and
Speaker 1: and then like that's the alpha gorilla, right, but not
Speaker 1: the beta grillas. What they do this is a strategy.
Speaker 1: They become friends with these girls. They start the cleaning
Speaker 1: just hair and ship, you know what I'm saying, hanging
Speaker 1: out with it. And then the male gorilla, the real
Speaker 1: nigga gorilla comes through when they scattered this scatatto, right,
Speaker 1: But every once in a while, every once in a while,
Speaker 1: one in the middle cleaning bitch gorillas get to one
Speaker 1: of the bad. It's a strategy, and it's this is
Speaker 1: well documented in the primate community. It's well documented well
Speaker 1: on the nature planet. I read about. The book I
Speaker 1: read about is called Alpha Nigga Guerrillas. That's really primates. No,
Speaker 1: the not the winner effect about that's interesting, the winner effect.
Speaker 1: And if some about like guys who are like winners,
Speaker 1: the alpha guys, how they how how society treats them,
Speaker 1: how they behave, and they would just drawn that parallel
Speaker 1: and that's your all, your all, your all, your male friends.
Speaker 1: If you guys were monkeys picking your hair, helping you moving,
Speaker 1: funny that you were like, are you high that strategy.
Speaker 1: We interviewed a guy, one of my friends to pick
Speaker 1: up artists we called them right. He's friends with the
Speaker 1: hottest bottle of model bitches, all of them, right, And
Speaker 1: eventually he's like, I'll start breaking down with their boyfriend,
Speaker 1: who and ship and who was there? Who was dopest
Speaker 1: this whole time? And he's like and you know what,
Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't ever like be pressed for
Speaker 1: posty because I'm just prolonging the post with everybody like
Speaker 1: they all fuck me. Then I think that's whack, but
Speaker 1: it works. You listen, guys, guys, I don't want to
Speaker 1: use that strategy, alright, that's lame. All the guys that listening,
Speaker 1: all right, Just what you do you be friends with
Speaker 1: those girls? Right? Can you really give advice to this
Speaker 1: because you just pay for the pussy. You take the
Speaker 1: easy way out, I take it away, you know. I'm
Speaker 1: just it's called leverage, all right, but like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you guys who may not have as much you know.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, okay, So this is what you do when
Speaker 1: you be friends with those girls, the baddest bitches, right,
Speaker 1: and really just be friends with him because they got
Speaker 1: they got friends and family members who they'll co sign
Speaker 1: for you. Man, you're really cool man, like you say,
Speaker 1: and then other girls will see you with this hot girls, right,
Speaker 1: and then they'll they'll they'll like you more. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for? Um? Huh, social proof?
Speaker 1: But I'm looking for you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: happened to me. Let's the pick up term? Uh uh
Speaker 1: there's a term for this preselection. Yea, they see you,
Speaker 1: they do. Other girls see you with these cool girls,
Speaker 1: and they think, oh, he must be cool. He obviously
Speaker 1: is not a weirdo, right, all these hot girls out
Speaker 1: with him. I've had dudes invite me out, so then
Speaker 1: I alone. He's like, that's the strategy. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: I mean, having beautiful people around you does make people wonder, like, damn,
Speaker 1: who are you? Makes everything easier? It makes everything easier.
Speaker 1: And that bitch is the equivalent of a Rolex or
Speaker 1: Lamb boat. I would love to be the show off
Speaker 1: before all right, So I want to get into some
Speaker 1: of our whole mails. So each week we have our
Speaker 1: listeners send us letters and they're asking us for advice.
Speaker 1: If you guys want to send some homemail, send it
Speaker 1: to Horrible Decisions at gmail dot com. UM the ones
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Speaker 1: this one. Ladies love the podcast. Listen to you guys
Speaker 1: all the time. I need someone's opinion, and I'm too
Speaker 1: embarrassed to ask my friends. So I figured to be
Speaker 1: the perfect time to write in. Me and my man
Speaker 1: have been having sex together for two years. It's amazing,
Speaker 1: pretty much the best I've ever had. We always try
Speaker 1: new things, but recently he's requesting to do something that
Speaker 1: I don't really want to do. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys have heard of it, but it's called gumba stomping,
Speaker 1: a massacus sex act that involves a man laying down
Speaker 1: and his sexual partner jumping up and down, stomping on
Speaker 1: his crotch with both feet. Feeling like Mario stomping on
Speaker 1: a gumba. My first thought is I don't want to
Speaker 1: hurt the best dick I've ever had. I mean, how
Speaker 1: could I possibly how can we possibly have sex after
Speaker 1: I stop on your dick? But to the point now
Speaker 1: that he doesn't even want to have sex unless I
Speaker 1: do it, I've expressed to him that I don't want to.
Speaker 1: But of course that goes in one year out together.
Speaker 1: Should I just do it to please my man? Or
Speaker 1: is it time for a new man? Did you need
Speaker 1: to jump on that dick? Maybe I would jump on
Speaker 1: the dick cloth on somebody news. So it's it's hard
Speaker 1: for me because I think we talked about this austin
Speaker 1: um that kinks like when people enjoy certain kinks. Maybe
Speaker 1: you may not find the right partner to fulfill those kinks,
Speaker 1: and you need to be open enough to say it.
Speaker 1: But I think at this point he's being very selfish,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's something that she needs to
Speaker 1: just discuss with him, like, listen, I'm doing this to
Speaker 1: please you. However, it's not something that I genuinely enjoy doing.
Speaker 1: And sex is very mental, and so if this is
Speaker 1: something that she just doesn't really understand, it can cause
Speaker 1: her arousal to not be there all the way because
Speaker 1: she doesn't understand that she knows. I guess she doesn't.
Speaker 1: She doesn't, she's not right. So, like when someone has
Speaker 1: a kink that I think of is quote unquote more
Speaker 1: extreme like this. For example, I'd say maybe six out
Speaker 1: of every time I have sex, I'm getting choked, which
Speaker 1: more than half. Yeah, right, The other four odd times
Speaker 1: just doesn't happen to me. Choking is not that extreme.
Speaker 1: But if someone really felt like they were inflicting pain
Speaker 1: on me and they were like confused about doing it,
Speaker 1: I would expect it maybe too at ten times, and
Speaker 1: I would accept that if somebody thought it was hurting me,
Speaker 1: or if they couldn't handle it. Well, that's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. I think at this point, the fact
Speaker 1: that she said that he doesn't even want to have
Speaker 1: sex unless I do this. This needs to be a
Speaker 1: conversation where she's sits down with him and lets him
Speaker 1: know her feelings, Like, listen, I don't want to do
Speaker 1: this to you every time. If he's willing to compromise
Speaker 1: and maybe you only have to stomp on his dick,
Speaker 1: you know, every other time, then I'm a lot. But
Speaker 1: I mean it happens a lot, but it'll it's a compromise.
Speaker 1: Hills or some guys like somebody Hills. The Asian dude
Speaker 1: that I went on a date with brought up this
Speaker 1: guy can the human Rug? I googled it. This guy
Speaker 1: used to roll himself up in a rug and bars
Speaker 1: in New York. I've been trying to find him to
Speaker 1: interview him, but he would just like to sit there
Speaker 1: all night and we get super turned on. People just
Speaker 1: like stepping on him, people just making out on top
Speaker 1: of him, ordering drinks, just treating him like people are
Speaker 1: into this, but like I wouldn't expect it every time
Speaker 1: during sex, Like do you expect to have dessert? Every
Speaker 1: time you go out to heat. Know, sometimes you do,
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't. This ship is dessert. Not to mention.
Speaker 1: I fuck that sick nipple. Fuck that always wanted me
Speaker 1: to have my hands on his nipples, and he was
Speaker 1: redic you listen, it's legit. The reason I have not
Speaker 1: given him more pussy. I couldn't even touch my clip
Speaker 1: without him pulling my hand off of myself to put
Speaker 1: it back on his nipples. Absolutely not. If you can't
Speaker 1: consider me while we're having sex fun yourself, can I
Speaker 1: actually all questions me because y'all y'all probably talk to
Speaker 1: more women than I do about this. We have live
Speaker 1: homemale live home ahead and ask a questions. Okay, ask
Speaker 1: a question male homemail. All right, So listen, do some
Speaker 1: girls not like getting choked and slapped around? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm never. Oh yeah I've never. I'm I mean, but
Speaker 1: if you said most of your women you want them
Speaker 1: to be submissive and submissive traits, I'm more of a
Speaker 1: to put your hands on their next or anything like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would definitely like Like, honestly, if you if you
Speaker 1: were like to just walk into a room it sult
Speaker 1: me having sex, you would have to assume you were
Speaker 1: witnessing a rate, like if you didn't know it from
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you would have to assume you don't
Speaker 1: talk about how rough you are before. No, that's probably
Speaker 1: something that should change because I know that I have
Speaker 1: had sex with guys um And I actually had to
Speaker 1: have this conversation with Fellam Bay actually, and I just
Speaker 1: assumed it was because he had just gotten out of
Speaker 1: jail why he was so fucking rough, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie, like when we first sucked, like he was
Speaker 1: sucking me like he tried to prove a point and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really dominant, Like what the point you
Speaker 1: trying to prove? Bro, Calm down, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie like, And because I do normally take the
Speaker 1: dominant stance in the bedroom or like me, it's like
Speaker 1: a really good balance to where he knows like what
Speaker 1: I'm not into. Yeah, but it's to the point like
Speaker 1: where even his hands like my chest hurt because he
Speaker 1: was like sucking me but like all my chest very hard,
Speaker 1: the choking. He didn't really slap me, um, but it
Speaker 1: was still just very rough. And I had to tell
Speaker 1: him like, hey, bro, next time, you gotta cones down
Speaker 1: like like that from things that they're seeing or like
Speaker 1: had to be that porn ship because I'm not gonna lie, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the nigga that All Aways wears the Timberland boots
Speaker 1: in a porn um Wesley Pipes, So Wesley Pipes Fox
Speaker 1: every bitch hardest fun it's him really with him. It
Speaker 1: says real rough, like bitch ten and it's just like whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: But a lot of men watch and a lot of
Speaker 1: That's why I don't really like straight porn because it's very,
Speaker 1: very very aggressive on the man's side compared to the
Speaker 1: women until we interviewer and so to me, I would say,
Speaker 1: if that's your you know, preference and fucking you should
Speaker 1: definitely let them know. Just I'm gonna tear that out up,
Speaker 1: like you need to let them paid for it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that they have to accept it, right, and like
Speaker 1: we should all remember that, like, yeah, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not doing anything gets you will obviously I don't think
Speaker 1: that you are. But I also think that a lot
Speaker 1: of men. I think this is a really good learning
Speaker 1: moment in a teaching moment. Excuse me, because you just
Speaker 1: assume and so you may not know how the girl
Speaker 1: feels when she leaves, Like what if she really doesn't
Speaker 1: like being roughed up? Can you imagine being paid for
Speaker 1: sex and then being funk like that? You're probably like damn,
Speaker 1: m hmm, be sucked up and so like, I think
Speaker 1: it's really good, especially when and I don't really like
Speaker 1: talking about sex so far in the beginning with dating.
Speaker 1: But for what you're doing, like yeah, be like, hey,
Speaker 1: like I like to get rough to? Would you enjoy that?
Speaker 1: Like our hands are cool, like there's nothing wrong. We're
Speaker 1: talking about that and if they say no, then they like,
Speaker 1: you know it. We probably shouldn't continue, are you if
Speaker 1: these girls get off? Do you give a ship? If
Speaker 1: these girls get off? I could see you not caring.
Speaker 1: He doesn't care. I'm never it's not it's not something
Speaker 1: I consider. I know how that sounds. No, it's normal
Speaker 1: who don't pay, don't consider. It's not something I consider,
Speaker 1: and and or even even when I'm I don't know. Man,
Speaker 1: some girls, some girls, Man, do you think that you
Speaker 1: have to care about a girl to maker want to come? Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, man, Like some girls, it's a fucking
Speaker 1: ruby's cute, you know, like some most some girls come easy,
Speaker 1: Like every every girl is different, right, It's like trying
Speaker 1: to find a different combination that's different lock every time.
Speaker 1: And that's cool. Um, but you're paying for the service,
Speaker 1: so you feel like you just want to come. You're paying,
Speaker 1: so I just want to get my I kind of
Speaker 1: that's the most reasonable thing. Like I don't more something
Speaker 1: I agree than like asking what the women want, Like
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that, but I kind of get that.
Speaker 1: Like if I'm getting paid to funk, like I don't
Speaker 1: expect you to go all out for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. I'm a deal with some super simps
Speaker 1: because I don't had a nigger like give me money.
Speaker 1: And he wanted his dick stuck and I didn't want
Speaker 1: to suck his sick and I told him I don't
Speaker 1: want to suck a sick. I don't be riding dick.
Speaker 1: This one thing. I was like, I'm a big ass
Speaker 1: spoiled brat, like even if a nigg is paying me
Speaker 1: or helping me with bills, like I'm gonna do what
Speaker 1: I want to do in the bedroom. I mean, and
Speaker 1: you you made a comment earlier that you didn't believe
Speaker 1: he did it because he's good looking, now do you
Speaker 1: believe it? I feel like he needs a therapist. But um,
Speaker 1: I definitely think this ain't the only reason. I definitely
Speaker 1: feel like there's some sort of not only entitlement, but
Speaker 1: um the fact that you don't want emotional attachment with
Speaker 1: a woman right now for whatever reason. Maybe it's a
Speaker 1: commitment phobia that you have. But not only that. I
Speaker 1: could see a woman who might also be fed up
Speaker 1: with that. If she was dating him and you're telling
Speaker 1: me you have sex with you and mind and not
Speaker 1: her in mind, that could be an issue even in
Speaker 1: the long run, Like you're not caring if I even come.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of men move in that
Speaker 1: way and that's what causes maybe some women that she
Speaker 1: step out like he doesn't know these girls and he's paying. No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying if he wasn't in the paying round. And
Speaker 1: I'm talking now to the to the men who might
Speaker 1: have this mentality who when they have sex they're worried
Speaker 1: about them nutting and not really the pleasure of a woman. Well,
Speaker 1: he's the girls who are like more long term, like
Speaker 1: I know how to make them come right. I really
Speaker 1: feel like you don't know how to make anyone come.
Speaker 1: I just have I really have that feeling right now
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, and I could be wrong. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong, you know, I could be honestly be right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just wait, I feel like, you know
Speaker 1: the long term women, do you give a ship like yea, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if they are yeah, because like we have a different
Speaker 1: sort of attachment, you know, Okay, it's just a girl,
Speaker 1: just like I don't feel like he got no attachment
Speaker 1: to nobody is how did this become an adversarial It's
Speaker 1: not an adversarial relationship. I genuinely just feel like everything
Speaker 1: that you're having to super think about or whatever, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know, your responses to me are just like, okay,
Speaker 1: you pay for pussy, that's it. Like any type of connection,
Speaker 1: any type of caring what the other person cares about.
Speaker 1: I feel like you have no no sense of that,
Speaker 1: Like you don't give a funk what they want, what
Speaker 1: their feelings are, if they come or if they don't come.
Speaker 1: So you're telling me, yeah, some of the people have
Speaker 1: relationships with their yet you don't know. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like I feel like you're saying it sounds good, but
Speaker 1: I genuinely feel like you have maybe a huge sense
Speaker 1: of health worth where you kind of just don't value anyone.
Speaker 1: That's why you have to pay for pussy. Because I
Speaker 1: feel like in a dating yet we had one they do.
Speaker 1: We can see that narrative, like you just see like
Speaker 1: a woman being like, oh, you're too arrogant. But you
Speaker 1: know what, this is exactly why I pay bitches because
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear. But not only that, but
Speaker 1: I don't know or to know that you're having sex
Speaker 1: without without To be fair, I've never been with a
Speaker 1: man that's given me. I'm not talking about man with money.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about men that have dropped thousands on me
Speaker 1: that weren't arrogant. Yeah, but I'll deal with arrogant men.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, and maybe it's because of how
Speaker 1: open a person is able to get with me, even
Speaker 1: the men that I have dealt with who have dropped money,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's been an eager sense to kind
Speaker 1: of please me. And maybe because I've openly talked about
Speaker 1: how men make me orgasm, now they feel like they're
Speaker 1: in competition to also make me orgasm. But I think
Speaker 1: that's speaking to the persons who write like you have
Speaker 1: to keep in mind that you are the one. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, from what it's sounding like, I don't mean
Speaker 1: this how it sounds. You're asking, and he's searching for
Speaker 1: these women. They they've come to me, and now we've
Speaker 1: gotten arrangement. I'm talking about, Are you on seeking arrangement? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not on seeking right now, because he's on seeking arrangement,
Speaker 1: looking for women, screening for you know, a certain level
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, for a certain sort of relationship.
Speaker 1: He's technically so on seeking arrangement right when you're having
Speaker 1: like like in this case. To me, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's more of a surplus of women than there are
Speaker 1: men that are really willing to pay, which is why
Speaker 1: he can do ship like this opposed to what you're
Speaker 1: going through where they're finding a hot girl that's willing
Speaker 1: to suck them and they're like, ship, well, what else
Speaker 1: do I have to do for you to keep sucking me?
Speaker 1: When they know you've got niggas on your line. The
Speaker 1: frame is different, you know, like they came in from
Speaker 1: with a different understanding. To me, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: not that hard for you to find a dude to
Speaker 1: break you out, and these guys experience, right, the ones
Speaker 1: that you're meeting right, you can and you're open about
Speaker 1: the men that are hitting up at least right now
Speaker 1: at this point in the game. Whereas for you, these
Speaker 1: are girls that really need to go to give them
Speaker 1: some cash. And if you're paying three hundred dollars to fun,
Speaker 1: if a bit just sucking for three and dollars, she
Speaker 1: needs money? Yeah, just need money, man, you know. And
Speaker 1: in in uh, you know, it's it's not that I
Speaker 1: don't care, it's just it's not you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to touch on that. The part I
Speaker 1: want to get on is when you say you said,
Speaker 1: And that's why he has to write. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: I if I had to, I wouldn't be ashamed of
Speaker 1: that either. Rice with um because I can cook a
Speaker 1: pizza better than Dominoes. That's a lot of that's more effort.
Speaker 1: I gotta go buy this ship, I gotta go to
Speaker 1: the grocery store, I gotta come on, I gotta prepare it,
Speaker 1: or I gotta hit the fucking the app. And that's
Speaker 1: just shows up, right, and and it's not even being
Speaker 1: being lazy. It's more like, you know, times your most
Speaker 1: valuable asset. Right, So if if I really don't, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be the relationship, not not just because
Speaker 1: I'm an asshole or dick. It's probably some of that too, right,
Speaker 1: but it's more so I don't have the the time
Speaker 1: to give a relationship what it deserves, right for real,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest about that. Uh So the circumvent that,
Speaker 1: all right, I set up the situation where, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I know what's up. They just they can just come
Speaker 1: through if they're done with that, and then that's you
Speaker 1: make problem. Yeah, that's probably the most sense you made. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of you don't really make none, but it's cool. Anyways,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you coming onto the show. You are anonymous,
Speaker 1: so unfortunately, ladies, you can't know who this guy is, um,
Speaker 1: but we appreciate that. Um. Fellows. If you have any
Speaker 1: questions UM relating to sugaring or maybe any experiences or stories,
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Speaker 1: cut this show off, let's talk about in November six. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're both from Florida. There was a piece of ship
Speaker 1: governor that I had in my time named Rick Scott,
Speaker 1: a dick. Okay, he could have definitely helped convict Georgie's nan,
Speaker 1: but he didn't. And I hate to get on this
Speaker 1: with y'all, but we finally have a black man who's
Speaker 1: running for governor in Florida and he's dope. Go out
Speaker 1: and vote, and you guys should go and vote and listen.
Speaker 1: If you can't vote right, use your car to pick
Speaker 1: people up to vote, convince other people, use your social
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Speaker 1: like there's a fucking asshole in office, because y'all, motherfucker's
Speaker 1: in Florida's less the fuck down. Okay, So do me
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