WEBVTT - Ep86: Sugar daddy or NAH?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, this is wheezy. I want to invite you

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<v Speaker 1>to a new event called This Stage and Sex Study.

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<v Speaker 1>Hall Um Ameliorities, who we had on for the Cleansier

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<v Speaker 1>Coucie episode, hit me up and really wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>something special. I'm really excited for this event. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on eleven eleven, a good luck number from

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<v Speaker 1>three to five, so at a private location in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>Her and I haven't decided how many people we want yet,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe fourty or sixty. But this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>very intimate setting, no phones, private personal We want everyone

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<v Speaker 1>to feel safe in the space to have an open

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<v Speaker 1>discussion about sex, mental health, and relationships. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>us on some stage. You're not watching a show. This

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<v Speaker 1>is all of us talking and learning together. We're encouraging women,

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<v Speaker 1>men and couples, not just women. We don't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be the conversation that girlfriends have behind closed doors.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited for this. It's to help you establish

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<v Speaker 1>a better connection with yourself and others. If you guys

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<v Speaker 1>want to take pictures until after, we're definitely doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>but no phones during. It's going to be super great.

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<v Speaker 1>Um excited if you guys wanna watch a show and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some more dicks. So So Talk is coming

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<v Speaker 1>to Miami eleven seventeen and Atlanta on twelve eight. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys for those who came out in New York

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<v Speaker 1>and hope to see you soon. So what y'all welcome

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of Horrible Decisions. I also, um, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and support Weezy, but I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and let you guys know that I will

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<v Speaker 1>be in Dallas on Thanksgiving Day weekend. Details for that

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<v Speaker 1>event will be dropping soon. I will also be in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta UM the weekend of December thirteenth through seventeenth. Also

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<v Speaker 1>be on the lookout for an event that I will

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<v Speaker 1>be having in Atlanta as well. I'm super excited to

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<v Speaker 1>see you all um in twenty nineteen. Weezy and I

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<v Speaker 1>may be coming back to see both of y'all all together,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna figure that out in the meantime. Keith

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in. UM. I do before we start, want to

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<v Speaker 1>give a huge shout out to our patron users. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>We have been dropping bonus content for them and it's

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<v Speaker 1>super super amazing. UM the feed back that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>getting all of y'all drop in your locations. We people

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<v Speaker 1>like where y'all from, and we're back. I've been really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to turn Patreon, and I would just say Flagrant

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<v Speaker 1>has inspired me what they've done with their Patreon community,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to make ours the same. I have

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<v Speaker 1>legit been telling things on Patreon that I wouldn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>on here. UM, I've been using it as my fucking diary.

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<v Speaker 1>I got funcked this morning and didn't feel like talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it on the podcast because you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little messy, and I told everybody on Patreon. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited that y'all have been given me advice. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I had t MJ from Sucking Dick, and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys gave me medical advice and that was also pretty helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>UM also shout out to the YouTube subscribers. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have a guest today, guys. I know that you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>been y'all have been like we've been giving out a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of little so low with us, but we went

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and UM brought a guy into the village. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys have been watching our social media, I

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<v Speaker 1>posted on the Horrible Decisions page and my own UM

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<v Speaker 1>looking for interesting guests, right, people that would be either

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<v Speaker 1>kinky or we could you know, just figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of lifestyle they have going on. And there's someone

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<v Speaker 1>in the student with us today. If you're watching YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to see a blurry little blob on the stream.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can tell you. Let's talk. Let's describe. First off,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm this is interesting for this conversation. So before we

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<v Speaker 1>started filming, I said, Nick, I don't believe you because

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<v Speaker 1>this man, this man is fine as across. You are

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<v Speaker 1>a good character. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now I judged your character just on the outside. You

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<v Speaker 1>look good. You probably still ain't shit, but you look

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<v Speaker 1>nice from the outside. And then you also don't grib

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<v Speaker 1>what he looks like. So we have a black man

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio. Yeah, I would say, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>six to? Okay, but now a great smile. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>tattoos there. He came in with a button up baldhead. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bald head, very kind of chinky at and tall, tall,

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<v Speaker 1>dark and handsome. And the reason that he's in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio today is because he said that he would be

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<v Speaker 1>a great deest guest for a Sugar Daddy episode. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't believe him. I don't believe him now. Way

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<v Speaker 1>that I did meet our guests, Mr Big is because

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing it back to school donation thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did send me some money for how much money

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<v Speaker 1>you sent? Remember? Remember? Not enough? I think I just

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<v Speaker 1>sent you. Actually I do remember I sent him one

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<v Speaker 1>list because you know, you gotta gage how much somebody

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<v Speaker 1>gonna spend. He was like, now you can send me more.

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<v Speaker 1>I like sending sending the good the good item. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember what it was for me, Like no, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have two Amazon wish lists. I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying you still have two different ones, like

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<v Speaker 1>on one list, like even if you go to a

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<v Speaker 1>baby shower, you got the friend that knows who to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for papers, then you got the one who knows

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<v Speaker 1>who to ask for a swing. Right, I wanted you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so not the sex one. You know, not the sex No,

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<v Speaker 1>not the sex wing. So I'm interested to know Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Biggs a little more about it. So we just want

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<v Speaker 1>to break the heights with a few questions. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know. We got five questions here. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>rather have an assertive or a submissive woman? Submissive? It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter, she's gonna end up being submissive. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse the funk out of it. No, I already looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the fingers. There's no rains. Now. Would you rather

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<v Speaker 1>have a woman with no sexual experiences at all? Or

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<v Speaker 1>an escort? Are those opposites? Does that even? I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to go x escort right because listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you can't the first time you touch a basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say all right now, I'm gonna play against

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry. I like that. Okay, gotta get I asked

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<v Speaker 1>that question because the SV conversation is very like, oh, prostitute,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what I mean. I kind of wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see what you would say because I've seen on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of profiles men will say things like no professionals,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to get into that with you too. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather have a woman who is not into

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<v Speaker 1>threesomes or any kind of kinky sex or a woman

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<v Speaker 1>that love kink, loves kinky sex and threesomes but only

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<v Speaker 1>mmf so two men? Oh nah, we'll go. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with option a vanilla. Yeah, if it's only with

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<v Speaker 1>other dudes, you are you? I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the same you know, I have none against the

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<v Speaker 1>home sexual community. It's just, you know, i'd rather not

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<v Speaker 1>be around some dick. Do you find yourself to be

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<v Speaker 1>a kinky person? Though? Depends on whose standards, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I probably seemed pretty mild, you know, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>would you rather have a woman p on you or

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<v Speaker 1>p on them? You gotta pick? I gotta pe. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pick some p you gotta pick. Yeah, you gotta pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather you keep. Okay, I'd rather no one p

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<v Speaker 1>on anyone. That's not my ship. Yeah, there was just

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<v Speaker 1>the standard, so you vanilla? All right? Hey, listen, if

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta that was allowed, if I gotta pick, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. And this isn't name on there? So is

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<v Speaker 1>there is there any anal play at all going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you a girl in the ass or could she

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<v Speaker 1>put her finger in your butt? Oh? I'd rather in

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<v Speaker 1>the as Okay? Yeah, ok yeah, yeah, yeah, rather lick

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<v Speaker 1>toes or eat ass. I'm going with the that's the

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<v Speaker 1>vanilla ship, my nig. You're really not that kinky at all. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what that was exciting because I think the

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<v Speaker 1>last person we had those pretty vanilla was Jesse Woo

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<v Speaker 1>and then I think you just did a show with Carlon, Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty vanilla, Um, But I like your pretty vanilla at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, man, what do you want to do? Kick about? Listen?

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<v Speaker 1>Vanilla people are allowed van other people listen to this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and the basis of you being on here is us Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like you at this point, you're like

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<v Speaker 1>an easy as sugar daddy in real life. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>look good and you ain't you only want to kinky show.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't even got he easiest at this point. You're

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<v Speaker 1>an easy trick. That's what me and my friends will

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<v Speaker 1>call you. Girl. He easy, that's the easy one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>easy one. You're an easy trick, all right, go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>He could be cheat, all right, That's probably what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to get into our Vanilla ships segment, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>which is our segment where we talk about sex in

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<v Speaker 1>the news. Um, I want to talk about Colin Kaepernick

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<v Speaker 1>with a woman whose name I won't say, but he

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<v Speaker 1>Um was outed by this woman because he asked her

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<v Speaker 1>to book rome flight because he wanted to know her

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<v Speaker 1>true intentions. Now, I want to know your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>this as a man with money as someone who works

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<v Speaker 1>in media and you're popular so to speak. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever had a girl spend money to try to prove

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<v Speaker 1>their love to you or like prove their interests or

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not using you? No, because I don't give

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<v Speaker 1>a funk like they like, I don't want her to

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<v Speaker 1>be interested in me. Like that's the point that I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't want that. So you find that

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<v Speaker 1>if a woman is doing all that that it's like

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<v Speaker 1>she's getting too far. Yeah, that's that's the whole point

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<v Speaker 1>of this, like of why I got I got into

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<v Speaker 1>um sugar sugaring, that's the term. Yes, that's dope. I

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<v Speaker 1>just learned that, um but for sugaring, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the time nor the will to be

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<v Speaker 1>some more boyfriend. When's the last time you've dated? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, last time. Some bitch convinced me to do

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<v Speaker 1>that three years time. It's time. It's funny because I

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes when when I have dealt with sugar daddies in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, or dealt or matt men who were into it,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times it is because they're emotionally unavailable.

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<v Speaker 1>So normally by marriage, which is why I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at your hand and saw no ring. So it's odd

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<v Speaker 1>to me that you are a single man who just listen, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>don't catch feelings. I'm gonna pay for you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>not to catch feelings, which a lot of athletes do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Were talking about how you were saying

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<v Speaker 1>in one episode I think we did on Patreon how

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<v Speaker 1>married sugar daddies are the best because they're more more unavailable,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely but emotionally unavailable. And not only that, it allows

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<v Speaker 1>the woman to kind of know her role as well, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie if I'm dealing with a man

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like you, and even though he's spending money,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm giving you the jffee, which is a girlfriend experience,

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<v Speaker 1>it leaves me room to catch feelings as a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I know what the situation is. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of open. He's available. Technically now I may try

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<v Speaker 1>to try to take you since I know you're available

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<v Speaker 1>a married nigga. If if he's paying my bills and

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<v Speaker 1>he's my sugar daddy, I'm able to in my mind

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<v Speaker 1>mentally know what my role is in this and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna give him the experience he won't keep get

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<v Speaker 1>my coins and keep it trucking. I've never felt like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've never felt like a single sugar daddy's

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<v Speaker 1>like I had never had a married one. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had it just never happened to me. But I I

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like they wanted to be single because they

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<v Speaker 1>knew they was gonna be Hold. Well, that's just what

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have. The like, how could you be single

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<v Speaker 1>and cute and doing this, Like clearly you want nothing

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I felt that what I've heard from like

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<v Speaker 1>just even listening to pods and ship like that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>married men have caught more feelings than the single niggas well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also because they're with women, if they're seeking women

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<v Speaker 1>outside of their marriage, because they're only talking to one

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<v Speaker 1>other person, they realized, oh my god, you're doing this

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<v Speaker 1>better than my wife. Blah bla blah blah blah, what

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<v Speaker 1>would life be like with you? Yeah, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they're seeking they're either something they're not getting um, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's also their responsibility for setting up this arrangement, not

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<v Speaker 1>to catch feelings. So so yeah, so so would you

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I guess you asked the question do you

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<v Speaker 1>know of any of your friends like that maybe have

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<v Speaker 1>experienced that, like where because I've talked about this on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter and I feel like a lot of women will

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<v Speaker 1>try to go have on a date, or try fly

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<v Speaker 1>themselves out or do these things to make themselves more appealing.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you reach out to women, is the independent

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<v Speaker 1>woman not attractive to you? I mean for friendship? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, you know it'd be cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's I want I like the I just

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<v Speaker 1>like that term, okay because it um it provides a

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<v Speaker 1>certain level of compliance. Oh you know ly, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an arrangement, That's what it is. Like she is not

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<v Speaker 1>here for it, but it is. She just asked me

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<v Speaker 1>to be in look on asshole one getting I'm interested

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<v Speaker 1>in knowing this. So I hear you on the independence part,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not really relative, But how do you find

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<v Speaker 1>it when a girl has nothing? Let's say she arrives

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<v Speaker 1>and she needs cash to like she won't get some

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<v Speaker 1>neat and you gotta buy some neat like are you

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<v Speaker 1>go away? And she's like can you now? How does

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<v Speaker 1>that feel? How does it go from needy to like

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<v Speaker 1>attractive for you? What's too broke? Because I'm gonna be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see how a girl could have nothing and

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<v Speaker 1>that be attractive answer. I have an answered to this,

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<v Speaker 1>but go ahead, and I would love her because because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that was such like a woman way

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking. Like I've I've seen bitches flipping burgers that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was hot, you know, and I've also seen chicks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in corporate office. I don't I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>give a fun right now, I'm talking in terms like

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what I mean is the lieout things because

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<v Speaker 1>some women on seeking arrangement, which is what me and

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about before, and I don't want to jump

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<v Speaker 1>in that too early, talk about requiring cash before they arrive.

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<v Speaker 1>Has that happened to you? I mean, listen, honestly, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I got my own business. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>running ship, you know, doing like big deals, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been negotiating for a long time. So some fucking twenty

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<v Speaker 1>year old bitch ain't going to negotiate me. Man right

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<v Speaker 1>right the first time? You know they like it puts me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a strategic advantage in that scenario. But I

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<v Speaker 1>like what you also said when you were like, I

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<v Speaker 1>find I find a female flipping burger is interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is because a lot of well, well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a lot of time, um, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how we perceive things to be. However, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I was that bitch that couldn't afford another one way

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, he didn't buy my round trip, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was that bitch who slept on an air mattress before.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm eighteen years old in my own apartment with

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<v Speaker 1>not enough money to buy furniture. Yees, So I will

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<v Speaker 1>say that, and even ship. While I was in school,

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<v Speaker 1>I was living off student loans and whatever niggas was

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<v Speaker 1>given me. But during that time, I will say, the

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<v Speaker 1>men who looked out and I won't call them my

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<v Speaker 1>sugar daddies because they listened to the show, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>my friends. Um. They looked out for me in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways, but it's also because they saw me

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<v Speaker 1>working towards something. And I'm not gonna lie. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them felt like they were I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say captain save a holes, but they loved to know

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<v Speaker 1>that they were the reason why I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything like like, I do find some gratification, gratification

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<v Speaker 1>in that, you know, like, you know she can fucking

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<v Speaker 1>now she got a computer to use. You gotta think men,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of these young girls men there their

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<v Speaker 1>their their life could be turbulent, you know, uh lack

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<v Speaker 1>of lack of money, you know, And absolutely I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into that with like the age and the

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<v Speaker 1>ideal of sugar baby looking for in a minute. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we do that, um, every week we do a

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<v Speaker 1>kink where we talk about paraphilias and what they mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So I found one called psychrophilia, and it's, uh, psychrophiliacs

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<v Speaker 1>have fantasies of watching people freeze, like freezes in cold

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<v Speaker 1>or freezes in everything. You still have a freeze? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? Like freeze? Like literally, like did you

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<v Speaker 1>look into this? I need to know, like shivering, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like girls that are like shaking. It's like icicles dripping

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<v Speaker 1>from people and sickles dripping from people. You did. But

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<v Speaker 1>then but then I was just like, oh what if it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, because I always try to take each

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<v Speaker 1>kink that we do and try to take it to

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<v Speaker 1>a little normal of a place or something we've done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like I was using ice last night. No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same you can't bring up using ice as

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<v Speaker 1>liking people who freeze. Okay, it's definitely not liking people

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<v Speaker 1>who freeze. But I wonder if that's more of like

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<v Speaker 1>a cold No, I mean I say this thing like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you're gonna get like cold, like yes, like

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<v Speaker 1>in the snow snow? Oh have you Well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to ask you this question. You're a

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<v Speaker 1>and if you were to be in the snow or

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<v Speaker 1>I mean even say maybe fucking in super cold water,

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<v Speaker 1>don't your dick shrink? They don't shrink in the cold. Done,

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<v Speaker 1>the cryo shrinks. It shrinks in the cold. But like

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<v Speaker 1>when if you have an erection is different because like

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<v Speaker 1>the blood rushes, Oh, your skin is shriveling your I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, so you could have a hard dick in

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<v Speaker 1>the cold. I didn't one of those what's it the cryo?

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<v Speaker 1>What's it called the cry out therapy? Me and Alex?

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<v Speaker 1>What is this? So you get in the tube and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like below nitrogen. So I do cry of facials

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<v Speaker 1>once a week is really good. I won't have to

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<v Speaker 1>once the win or come. But like you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>like makes your skin all glowy. So I go with

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<v Speaker 1>Alex read the gym. He's going first, and he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>down right and you can only see it from the neck.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, bro, my dick is like going in my

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<v Speaker 1>body shriving. And then he's asking the nigga who's laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, this is happening. Everybody does this happening everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, yo, everybody in the gym was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that, like all of your can like everything. Just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if your dick like hides like a turtle,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it just goes back in. Well maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>it's uncircumcised, right, Circumcised dicks don't hide level of cold,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's like a un natural level code. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd there be goes like two four, What you gotta try.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's really good for like if your muscles now.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't sound interesting to me. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>you've been trying to get me to do white people ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not interested because me doing it always do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I ain't know athlete. I make them warm.

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<v Speaker 1>So sugar, I want to give you the floor. Mr Bigs.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us how you started? How long ago you started?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So I would be in a I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself in a dilemma where, you know, really I'm focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on like other things, you know, trying to conflise things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and I wouldn't have the time or

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<v Speaker 1>the wherewithal to devote, you know, attention to a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>With attention, it deserves your relationship for real. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, but at the same time, here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I still want some pussy, right, So good questions about

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<v Speaker 1>the middle range. I'm thirty eight, okay, okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're thirty eight because a lot of times when

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<v Speaker 1>women think of sugar daddies, we think of seventy year old,

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<v Speaker 1>eight year old white men who are just about to die. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>my misconception as well. Like until I said, see how

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<v Speaker 1>I got into it because I was thinking, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I would, I would stay these girls. And like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, man, A lot of times, tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys had this experience, if a girl like

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<v Speaker 1>likes you, sometimes some girls won't fuck you. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Yeah, another n she knows what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm doing that right now. Yeah, yeah, you fucking

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<v Speaker 1>someone else because you're trying to make someone else, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that I'm interested in, and that the guy that like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing everything right and he's not getting pussy. You see.

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<v Speaker 1>You see it's okay. I understand the logic. I understand him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that there could be more. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like sex is going to ruin it too early.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know I can just get a dick from

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<v Speaker 1>a nigga and ship. So that's what I'm doing with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Expect imagine. Okay, So with you, what's the problem. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be that. You just don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the nigga that don't get pussy. Well, he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna do the right thing. He's gonna take him

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<v Speaker 1>to dinner, he's gonna treat them well, so it may

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<v Speaker 1>push the pussy away, right, Yeah, so I can I

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<v Speaker 1>can understand that. I was thinking, all right, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'll portray myself as more of a motherfucking asshole. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's really not who I am. Like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like a mean person or a bad guy like. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe you would like repelled them from thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that that wouldn't work out or or it would have

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite effect, you know. Um where the girls might

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<v Speaker 1>like you more, right, because you're mean to him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been sugaring for how long maybe let's call it,

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<v Speaker 1>let's call it like mm hmmm for a minute. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's about about eight years okay, okay, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>had about how many sugars you've had about how many

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<v Speaker 1>sugar babies over the span of that started. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've spent money on women and giving them money,

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<v Speaker 1>But when did you start using websites? That's what I'm saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that that that may have been that it may

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<v Speaker 1>have been like five years ago. Okay, So like Sinking

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<v Speaker 1>Arrangement was the website that you brought up to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you used any other ones? Um? Now? Because that

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<v Speaker 1>one is just the one I know? And it was

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<v Speaker 1>more like, uh, it's out there as towards very transparent

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. There's no ambiguity about what do you

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<v Speaker 1>have your face on there? Have you have you met

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<v Speaker 1>like have you ever flown a woman in from seeking arrangement?

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<v Speaker 1>About flown them in? No? No, it isn't. Girls around

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<v Speaker 1>you live in New York. You can search it's like different,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, no, guys who use tender and stuff. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't search race, No, you can't. You can't. Really

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<v Speaker 1>what are you typing in? I'm interested? What is your preference?

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<v Speaker 1>And what kind of woman? What kind of woman? White? Blond? White?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that think that? Yeah, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you let me let me. I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>it saying I thought I thought we could be transparent.

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<v Speaker 1>We're being very transparent. I feel like I can't say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, you don't. It's don't sound bad, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say. You don't like one of the black guys

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<v Speaker 1>that like white girls. You look like you couldn't really

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<v Speaker 1>be on that and the fact that black men that

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<v Speaker 1>get to a certain level sometimes or like even if

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<v Speaker 1>you it sounds like to be able to pay for it,

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<v Speaker 1>like you really want it, right, And there's something like

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<v Speaker 1>I think it may be harder for you to meet

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<v Speaker 1>white women that you want and that to like start

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<v Speaker 1>like every type of black guy when we go to

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<v Speaker 1>all white places. You know in there, just because he's

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<v Speaker 1>a hot black guy doesn't mean that he could just

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<v Speaker 1>get to all the white guls, right. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>too taboosa. If you want to really just get it

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<v Speaker 1>and make it your thing. I could see him going

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<v Speaker 1>to look for that and paying for it. Because with

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<v Speaker 1>black girls, it's a dub what they gonna be like,

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be like, damn, he cute bit, you got

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<v Speaker 1>a night drive, you got tapsy tall? He fine? Duh

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<v Speaker 1>white girls. I mean not not to bring it back

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<v Speaker 1>to that, but I feel like if we go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the bullshit the guys we said, this is what,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you're like the tall basketball player type

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<v Speaker 1>looking like to me, he's a safe black guy too

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<v Speaker 1>that he could That could probably be by saying they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like they wanted the thug. They were like, you know,

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.679
<v Speaker 1>he lives uptown. He's a real black guy. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I don't know. So what is your type? What

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 1>is your type? Do you put in slim and athletic?

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Put that in its black and Latino. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>as at all. Oh now gonna pull out. You're so okay.

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>So you're you're typing in black and Latina. What is

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the age range for your ideal Yeah, that's for your

0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:13.159
<v Speaker 1>ideal question. Man. Um, First, I'm certain distance right, you know,

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:17.679
<v Speaker 1>and I'm keeping you want them closer far close? Um,

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I like out of town? Yeah, what is the allowance

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that you have on your profile? Negotiable? Yeah, well when

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 1>when they asked, like how much they want monthly? What's

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 1>your cap? No? No, I'm the first rule negotiating is

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>like you you never said the price first, you know,

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.879
<v Speaker 1>like you never you we're asking. Yeah, I'm telling you

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>what I do, right, Like first of all, I want

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to know last time y'all yell at me said again

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you must not know all some real ship though, Um,

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>no you don't. That's just how you negotiate, like you

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 1>never know first, like saying you see with their prices

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.439
<v Speaker 1>and and you know and then you you work around. Well,

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>my question is more is like your personal cap what

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:10.199
<v Speaker 1>is the max you're willing? Yeah, it depends how the

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>most man. Uh, we got to know what type of

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 1>sugar she was, Like the most is like twelve for

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>a one night Oh okay, So that was my questions.

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 1>He gave me an idea, but that was going to

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>be my question when you set up these arrangements and

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.400
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't white when you set up these arrangements, Um,

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>do you only pay a sugar baby after she gives

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you sex? Or are there gifts and money before sex

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.640
<v Speaker 1>takes place, she might get dinner or something. She might

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>come and she might company me to dinner. Okay, And

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 1>how many dinners are you going to before you're expecting sex?

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Since this is the arrangement, I'm having sex immediately after

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>on the first date. Now, how do you how do

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.080
<v Speaker 1>you have that conversation because a lot of times, like

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>so I was on seeking arrangement, like when I was

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'd say eighteen through two, um, and so like

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I would go to dinner and like they would bring

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the cash and I'd be like, okay, so this must

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 1>be just no, no, no, and they would give me cash.

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I would take the cash and then be like, well,

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you again now shout out for that lay

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.120
<v Speaker 1>mass niked. I was kind of going the first time

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and they were telling me that, you know, this is

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>how they want to show me they're interested in me.

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm learning because I've been talking to a few

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>girls on Instagram the PPM pay per meat, So do

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you have that discussion before you gets I have the

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 1>whole discussion, man. So basically it's like we start talking about, like, so,

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>what kind of like she'ld be looking for right in there?

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>And they were like, oh, let me give us some

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. I don't really give a funk what

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>they say, right, And then I'll say um, and then

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll say, all right, what you're thinking like some long

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>term or payper meat, right, And then they'll they'll say

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>either one. I don't give a funk what they say.

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, all right, well, let's start

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:00.360
<v Speaker 1>off with like, you know, the paper meat you no

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>matter what they say. And then and then like they

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>they're they're in a bad situation like with me, right,

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>because like I negotiate for a living. What I'm saying, like,

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>so it's what was that? Was? That was that? For?

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>So I'm making this I know I'm making this space

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 1>first off, because to me, sugaring like how you're describing

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>it to me is more tricking on prostitute than sugaring

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.439
<v Speaker 1>only because and I've had this conversation with a lot

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of my friends, because I mean, maybe I'm blessed with

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.439
<v Speaker 1>the with the guys that I've had um in my

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>life over the years, but they live in a different

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 1>state cities, and I could literally call them and ask

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>for money and I'm getting it without having it evolved,

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>evolve that. Okay, I'm gonna say I don't think that.

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that that's what anybody thinks they're signing

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 1>up forever. That comes with tenure, that comes with time work,

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, maybe, but the chances they're sent right, No, no, no,

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>are both you and I if we did that, I

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>bet it would be someone that we've known. Yeah, I

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>mean I only disagree with this because I have friends

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>currently and they're they've bread bottoms, dinners, all this stuff.

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Well before money, before sugaring. I will say this to

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 1>both of your points. What he's saying is not sugaring,

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and where you're saying what I can call the men

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and get that money, that's not sugaring either. Sugaring by

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>definition is not a paper meat. However, seeking arrangement has

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>made that a very normalized thing. Right. Sugaring by definition

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>is either allowance cash or gifts, but it has no

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>exchange during the actual act. That that's what I'm saying.

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Then my fault. You just buying. You just be buying

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>for Pussy's the thing. You just be buying pussy. That's

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>what that's what he'd be doing. I'd rather do that

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>because because but it can evolve into more of a

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>relationship than you're talking about, and hopefully that's like, hopefully

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it does into something more like that where it's like, um,

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>who one is more is more economical for me, But

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.399
<v Speaker 1>it's also probably puts her in a better position to like,

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, you know, for whatever it is she's

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to accomplish her knees and propose. Well, what is

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the ideal. Is it like a college girls more ideal

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>for you? Is it a girl that has kids? Is

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>it like someone that just needs to do this to

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>get away? Like life? Man, I don't think I've ever

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the girl with kids, like not really you the girl kids?

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I have? See you just say it? Really she had kids?

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, I don't think I sucked the girl

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>after she had told Yeah. If that's the case, then yeah,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>oh I'm Lyne I the Niga Babby mama him. Oh

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I did that's right, but I had to Yeah, I

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>forgot that is right, and she had about for kids,

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the kids. It just hasn't come up. Okay. So so

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>here's here's my question to you as as a man,

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>because we do have a lot of male listeners, and

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of a lot of our episodes

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>have been they've been saying it was for the ladies,

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>So I want to make sure we do some talking

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>for the men. So if there's any men listening, how

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>do you approach a woman outside of maybe okay, of

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>course there's the website, But how do you get into

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>these relationships where you say, Okay, I want to pay

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you and I don't want to be in a relationship

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>with you. No, No, I don't. I don't like you know,

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>because it becomes one, you know, especially with the climate

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>right now, I feel like you offered money for sex. Man.

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's like that's like more than the meet

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>them first, and it's like that kind of should happens online.

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Like if I meet a girl in person who I

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>like men like, or if she likes me, unless he's

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to smash, I probably don't want to suk with her,

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>right because she's gonna want to be my girl, having

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>conversations like hey, I'm only looking for X y Z.

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Because it doesn't matter, No, it doesn't. They can say

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that if it's just still want more. You can always man,

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you can say you can say goddamn anything. You can

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>say any the man you can say, listen, you know

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>all that wanted to fun man? You know, Um, I

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>kill people, I'm about to rob a bank. I want

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to play with that aids right, Maybe not the last one.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not the last one. That's that's how you take

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>it too far. Yeah, but my first relationship actually, and

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it's the reason that I refused to date married men

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like the carim was awful. I met

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.239
<v Speaker 1>a dude in the club Roxy and Orlando if Andy

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Orlando listeners. Um, he never told me he was married,

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>never told me he's going through separation anything. Three months

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>later I found out he had a wife, broke up

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>with him, and then he left her and was with me.

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>We were together for two years. And I always blame myself, like,

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, even though I didn't know. And I

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>really think it doesn't matter. And that's why, because chicks

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.719
<v Speaker 1>proved time and time again that it don't matter what

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you say, you might end up with me. And and

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>it's other thigs that say they don't want nothing that

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>things happen, which is why chicks really don't believe you. Yeah.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't speak for the boyfriend I had

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>in Florida. Let you know do that Dad. It was like, Nope,

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I want this to be a one night stand, bam meeting.

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Mama's we in love talking about marriage. That's how ship.

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, and that's why. That's why to your point,

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I got into this ship in the first places, because

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just want to set expectations from the set.

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever have sex where you're not paying It's been,

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>it's been, it has I don't remember the last time.

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Whoa And then because you're that scared of these girls

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>having that emotional attachment to you and you just don't

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>want to deal with that bad experience. You're that scared

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>of emotional attachment because you might need to see a therapist.

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's the average you're paying per per per time you

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>have sex. I'm trying to think, oh yeah, there or

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>would be some girls who just like, you know, like

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>just some you know, I'm paying some rents. I'm paying

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>some rents and some phone building ahead and send s. Yeah.

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I get into those situations where where it becomes like

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more what's it. I mean these checks

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that you said, live in New York, what's the rent

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>you pand oh man, Yeah, it's just some rints man. Now,

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious. It's like twelve in the Bronx. Yeah, yeah, yo, man,

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I was on the I was on the side right,

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like yo. She was like, yoo, can

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you give me uber from the Alright, broke? Don't First off, pause,

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean you're broke. I tell niggas all the time.

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking a train to go see no niggas.

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to see me, you're gonna pay

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>my my uber and I live in the Bronx. Okay,

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't mean I'm broke. I just don't want

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to pay my uber. Reaction that he had that was

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the same reaction that Andrew had, which is really interesting

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to me because you just said, and I feel like

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>there's this underlying thing, right and I'm not shaming you,

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>but like I've heard two men on the show say

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>something like this about the uber thing, and I'm very

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>interested to know what it is about that holds the

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>whole reason I'm doing this ship is like one is

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to keep emotion on it, but also because I want

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>to keep you convenient for me. Right now, she's adding

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>levels of inconvenience right here, adding if I know I'm

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>dealing with a man, hey, who I'm not putting no

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>investment in, and you're paying for my pussy. What we're

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>doing is sex. There's no reason why I'm gonna put

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the investment out of my pocket. Take it easy, now,

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys on entitled to that continue. I just don't

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>mean I gotta like it, and I might thinking, all right, maybe,

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>just maybe if I gotta get this bit every time

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>if you don't work, I don't know, that's what I'm thinking.

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because entitled to listen where I live

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>on the Upper east Side. Okay, So anyway, so I

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>get the fun I'm about to get and you don't.

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>But then I'm thinking, not Harlem. Okay, that's true. Um,

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>but let me search his address for quick man? Am

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I going? It's the project? I'm just curious. Right, it

0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>was high school and I was like the day wait,

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>it was like high school. I didn't I didn't. I

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't even call it. Man, We'll watch out nig a lot.

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I might have right out of high school. Yo. Yo,

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, man, you can get I don't know

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>what the age consent is here. I mean I was

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>getting flown out of high school by NBA players. But

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was eighteen eighteen. I don't know, that's

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>just now. I wouldn't want to pick up on a

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 1>bitch from high school. So okay, it could have been

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>the cops. So you're having you're having first date dinners, right,

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>first date dinners, and then she's at dinner, but should

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>have set up from the onset like oh great, So

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you're like, hey, if it goes well, can you come

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>to my place? Yeah? OK, like I got Have you

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>ever had such a great chemistry with a sugar baby

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that it came to where she didn't want you to pay?

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Like she didn't even care? Yeah? Yeah? Is that often?

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Like how does that work? I mean that that's happened. Uh,

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>that's happened. Happened as women still trying to trying to

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>shift the narrative, still trying to shift the narrative. It

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>goes into the to the it goes out pretty frequently,

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, if if it's like something that prolonged, like

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>if it's like after multiple times whatever, it's like, yes,

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 1>she tries to she said, he I just want to know,

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, do you let it happen? Uh to a

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>certain extent, you know, since you're acting a little cheap

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>about it. It's not it's not it's not cheap. It's uh,

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 1>it's inconvenient for me. I'm just press are there any

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>off limits? I'm entitled to feel like you got? I mean,

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess if you're paying for it every time and

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.479
<v Speaker 1>you attack on Uber from the Bronx, right, maybe forty bucks.

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>So you're already saying I'm spending other hundred dollars. It's

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:50.240
<v Speaker 1>not even about that. It's just more like, all right, whatever,

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>more steps. How often are you you said you haven't

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 1>you can't remember the last time you didn't pay for it?

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.320
<v Speaker 1>How often are you having sex? Not that often? You know,

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I work really hard, you know, saying so like

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>actually work more than everything. How many sugar babies do

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you have a rotation? Right now? You should have came

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>with these answers more than five? No, we belt five? Man,

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>But then it'll be it'll be like, have you ever

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>gotten them together? Do you ever pay for like three

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>SOMs or anything else that's like a little out there,

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I haven't, you know, I'd be down for it, but

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know. Man's like you said, I'm vanilla man.

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>So I've had my fair share three somes. You know,

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like she's overrated. Man Like, I like,

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I like suing one chick more than I like three SOMs.

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So since you're not going to little emoil right now,

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you sound like me like one chick? Do you ever?

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's say, I think he just meant one chick at

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>a time. They don't make him emo your emo, Like,

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I only want one dick in me.

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't do all these things, you know, I mean time. Yeah,

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I like one dude that one time too, though I

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>like to get to know his body. I liked to.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever like find that? So after you pay them, like,

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>do you ever like them to? Do you pay for

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend experience? Do you find that since you are single,

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>since you don't have anybody in your life, do you

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>pay for them to kind of hang around? You like

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 1>always always hanging around, Like it's always it's always kind

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of cool. It's never like a I haven't done that

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>ship where it's like the opposite of that whatever that

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>is out. Yeah, they always kick it. Yeah, it's always

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 1>uh because I'm not trying to demean them or anything.

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not a thing where it's like, well,

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that's good that you don't take it like that, like

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not an adversarial relationship. Now, have you used any

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>escorting websites? Yeah, yeah, that's your favorite. That's different. That's like,

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that's a different subject. That's just straight up trying to

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 1>get Yeah. Now see, I'll find that interesting because you're

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>telling me that you're telling excuse me that you're not

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 1>really doing gifts or anything like that. You do pay

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>for me. But what's the difference then for you? And

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>then you've noticed has been eight years between finding a

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>girl on a sugar Daddy website and going to get

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>an escort on a website. What are the two differences

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>in these women? Well, for one, I might be the

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>only guy. I might be the only guy at least

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the first guy she that day. That makes sense, That

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.240
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. That makes sense. My friend is on eros

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and she has a limit of six, but you won't know,

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>like you don't know what number you are unless maybe

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you get her early in the morning. But then she

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>could have had a really late night call. So that

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. When when when all of my friends, when

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>we're on seeking arrangement, I've been on there. It's it's

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of scams now on their um, a lot

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of cameras, or it's a lot of men on there

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that are on there not looking for a quote unquote professionals,

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>but they're also not looking to pay that allowance because

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>they do want girl friends and relationships and it's like,

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>my nigga, you on the wrong site, go swipe on

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>tender like it's really frustrating. But also, and I do

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>want to make this announcement while we're speaking on seeking

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>arrangement a lot, we've been getting a lot of messages

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 1>asking about seeking. I will say, if anyone is on

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 1>there asking for your bank account information, that is not

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the way sugaring or any of this works. Um, So

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>do not ever send your bank account information over there either. Well,

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and if you're looking for cash, either meet him up

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>on a date and ask for the cash, or you

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>can do like a cash app. Um, that's the safe route.

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>But if they're saying they can do cash app or PayPal,

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>then honestly don't trust them because so it's a scamp.

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>So there's a dating scam. And I only know this

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>because I fucking went to Nigeria learned about it um,

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>but it's called dating and basically Nigerians the scam. So

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Nigerians will um get on. They're using pictures. Sometimes they

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:44.240
<v Speaker 1>do use women as decoys, like for the phone calls,

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and they build relationships with men to send the money.

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>So so or a lot of what do you mean?

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>They get their bank accounts and now they have credit

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>card it's like a part of the credit card scam.

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Now they can literally I don't know what technology they

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>do to use it, but they'll either get your bank

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 1>account information or for the other scamming part, this is

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 1>for men possibly seeking women. They'll do it to where

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>now they'll have a man like you who wants a

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.399
<v Speaker 1>woman but sending her money without ever meeting her type

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 1>of man um. So there's that, but um, I don't know,

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess do you want to go ahead and jump

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 1>into our our homemail segment or did you have any

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 1>other questions? I didn't want to know about your worst experience?

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh the worst experience? Um, did you ever still have

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>someone that wasn't who they said they were? Like? How

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>did you get them? Yeah? You get a little less

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of that, right, I think I would imagine then you

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>would on like Tinder or some ship. You know what.

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Bitches are kind of like enhancing their appearance a little bit.

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean they definitely put their their best put foot

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>forward in their their profile, but um, yeah, I find

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>ways to mitigate that, like you know, like what's what's

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:00.040
<v Speaker 1>her Instagram or whatever? You like to see all you

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 1>after checks on Instagram? I would I don't. I don't

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 1>like giving my Instagram out, not from seeking arrangement. I

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>couldn't imagine being on a sugar babysitting giving out my

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Instagram because then you kind of like reveal yourself. Yeah,

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that. What's the closest you got to

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 1>a sugar baby? Have you ever taken one to a

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>family vacation? And if no, no no, but you know,

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>just like places, you know what I'm saying, Ok, you

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:26.439
<v Speaker 1>have vacation. Okay, so I mean okay, I hear, yeah

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, um but no, like I keep those worlds separated,

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like work women do they

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>know your real name? And then I got yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm not like I'm not sing Badman rights,

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 1>like I'm nothero. But it's like, you know, I don't

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>know I feel like this makes me like a more

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>what's the what's the word I'm looking for? You know,

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>like you guys probably have a lot of guy friends

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 1>who are probably just who you know, we're just trying

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to fun. You were waiting for the chance, okay, um,

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 1>not trying to suck my female friends. Like it's like

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>because I got I got bitches man, and it's like

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't need it. I don't know, I feel like

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm a better friend to like my like legit female friends. Uh,

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>definitely not trying to fun just at work and ship

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like to ship like like I got that part of

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>my life handle. You know, Yeah, I mean sex works.

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.760
<v Speaker 1>It's great for those things. Like I mean, just imagine

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>if there were a few men that felt like they

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>could do this, I wouldn't cross that boundary line. I

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>don't like to say that prostitution can stop rape, because

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 1>rapist rape like nothing. But I can't understand what you're saying,

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>like towing the line. You know, maybe men having these

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>options and feeling more comfortable where they wouldn't mean trying

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>random girls at your job, Like no, you can just

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>been trying to work man, like you I've didn't hit

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>on at work and it's terrible. Yeah, it's weird, man

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like's I think it's weird. I think it's weird when

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>guys are trying to suck their friends man like their

0:42:56.280 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>female I think it's just weird. I hate it. And

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 1>once once you know your friend zoned, I know your

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 1>friend zoned, and I don't want to take it past

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the friend zone when you let me know you like me,

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>or like, oh you checked me out, or I look

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.919
<v Speaker 1>good sending me like I don't like like, we don't

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like that, We don't like. It's because they're pretending to

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>be your friend. You just well, like okay, in the

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Animal Kingdom, right, the motherfucking gorillas and ship right, like

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the alpha gorilla he foks the badest gorilla bitches with,

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the biggest titties and the ship are

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you I'm assuming that this is just regularly heard and

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and then like that's the alpha gorilla, right, but not

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the beta grillas. What they do this is a strategy.

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>They become friends with these girls. They start the cleaning

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>just hair and ship, you know what I'm saying, hanging

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>out with it. And then the male gorilla, the real

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>nigga gorilla comes through when they scattered this scatatto, right,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.879
<v Speaker 1>But every once in a while, every once in a while,

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>one in the middle cleaning bitch gorillas get to one

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of the bad. It's a strategy, and it's this is

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.359
<v Speaker 1>well documented in the primate community. It's well documented well

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>on the nature planet. I read about. The book I

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>read about is called Alpha Nigga Guerrillas. That's really primates. No,

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the not the winner effect about that's interesting, the winner effect.

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>And if some about like guys who are like winners,

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the alpha guys, how they how how society treats them,

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>how they behave, and they would just drawn that parallel

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's your all, your all, your all, your male friends.

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>If you guys were monkeys picking your hair, helping you moving,

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.280
<v Speaker 1>funny that you were like, are you high that strategy.

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>We interviewed a guy, one of my friends to pick

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>up artists we called them right. He's friends with the

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>hottest bottle of model bitches, all of them, right, And

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>eventually he's like, I'll start breaking down with their boyfriend,

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>who and ship and who was there? Who was dopest

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>this whole time? And he's like and you know what,

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, I don't ever like be pressed for

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>posty because I'm just prolonging the post with everybody like

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>they all fuck me. Then I think that's whack, but

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>it works. You listen, guys, guys, I don't want to

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>use that strategy, alright, that's lame. All the guys that listening,

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, Just what you do you be friends with

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 1>those girls? Right? Can you really give advice to this

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>because you just pay for the pussy. You take the

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 1>easy way out, I take it away, you know. I'm

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>just it's called leverage, all right, but like I'm gonna

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 1>give you guys who may not have as much you know.

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, okay, So this is what you do when

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>you be friends with those girls, the baddest bitches, right,

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and really just be friends with him because they got

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>they got friends and family members who they'll co sign

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>for you. Man, you're really cool man, like you say,

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 1>and then other girls will see you with this hot girls, right,

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and then they'll they'll they'll like you more. You know. Um,

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>what's the word I'm looking for? Um? Huh, social proof?

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>But I'm looking for you know what I mean. It's

0:45:56.480 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 1>happened to me. Let's the pick up term? Uh uh

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a term for this preselection. Yea, they see you,

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:06.720
<v Speaker 1>they do. Other girls see you with these cool girls,

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and they think, oh, he must be cool. He obviously

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>is not a weirdo, right, all these hot girls out

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 1>with him. I've had dudes invite me out, so then

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I alone. He's like, that's the strategy. That's a good point.

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:20.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, having beautiful people around you does make people wonder, like, damn,

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 1>who are you? Makes everything easier? It makes everything easier.

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>And that bitch is the equivalent of a Rolex or

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Lamb boat. I would love to be the show off

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>before all right, So I want to get into some

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of our whole mails. So each week we have our

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.760
<v Speaker 1>listeners send us letters and they're asking us for advice.

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>If you guys want to send some homemail, send it

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 1>to Horrible Decisions at gmail dot com. UM the ones

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that I picked up, I think you may have this

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>one also, UM is Stomp the Yard. I really like

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>this one. Ladies love the podcast. Listen to you guys

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 1>all the time. I need someone's opinion, and I'm too

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>embarrassed to ask my friends. So I figured to be

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>the perfect time to write in. Me and my man

0:46:57.800 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>have been having sex together for two years. It's amazing,

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:02.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty much the best I've ever had. We always try

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>new things, but recently he's requesting to do something that

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to do. I don't know if

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys have heard of it, but it's called gumba stomping,

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>a massacus sex act that involves a man laying down

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and his sexual partner jumping up and down, stomping on

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 1>his crotch with both feet. Feeling like Mario stomping on

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 1>a gumba. My first thought is I don't want to

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>hurt the best dick I've ever had. I mean, how

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>could I possibly how can we possibly have sex after

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I stop on your dick? But to the point now

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't even want to have sex unless I

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>do it, I've expressed to him that I don't want to.

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:34.359
<v Speaker 1>But of course that goes in one year out together.

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Should I just do it to please my man? Or

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 1>is it time for a new man? Did you need

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to jump on that dick? Maybe I would jump on

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the dick cloth on somebody news. So it's it's hard

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 1>for me because I think we talked about this austin

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 1>um that kinks like when people enjoy certain kinks. Maybe

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you may not find the right partner to fulfill those kinks,

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>and you need to be open enough to say it.

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>But I think at this point he's being very selfish,

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:00.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think that that's something that she needs to

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>just discuss with him, like, listen, I'm doing this to

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:07.359
<v Speaker 1>please you. However, it's not something that I genuinely enjoy doing.

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>And sex is very mental, and so if this is

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 1>something that she just doesn't really understand, it can cause

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>her arousal to not be there all the way because

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:19.919
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't understand that she knows. I guess she doesn't.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't, she's not right. So, like when someone has

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 1>a kink that I think of is quote unquote more

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>extreme like this. For example, I'd say maybe six out

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of every time I have sex, I'm getting choked, which

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 1>more than half. Yeah, right, The other four odd times

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't happen to me. Choking is not that extreme.

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>But if someone really felt like they were inflicting pain

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>on me and they were like confused about doing it,

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I would expect it maybe too at ten times, and

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I would accept that if somebody thought it was hurting me,

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>or if they couldn't handle it. Well, that's what I

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say. I think at this point, the fact

0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that she said that he doesn't even want to have

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 1>sex unless I do this. This needs to be a

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 1>conversation where she's sits down with him and lets him

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>know her feelings, Like, listen, I don't want to do

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 1>this to you every time. If he's willing to compromise

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:08.919
<v Speaker 1>and maybe you only have to stomp on his dick,

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, every other time, then I'm a lot. But

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean it happens a lot, but it'll it's a compromise.

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Hills or some guys like somebody Hills. The Asian dude

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:26.800
<v Speaker 1>that I went on a date with brought up this

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>guy can the human Rug? I googled it. This guy

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 1>used to roll himself up in a rug and bars

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>in New York. I've been trying to find him to

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.359
<v Speaker 1>interview him, but he would just like to sit there

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 1>all night and we get super turned on. People just

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 1>like stepping on him, people just making out on top

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 1>of him, ordering drinks, just treating him like people are

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>into this, but like I wouldn't expect it every time

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.359
<v Speaker 1>during sex, Like do you expect to have dessert? Every

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>time you go out to heat. Know, sometimes you do,

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you don't. This ship is dessert. Not to mention.

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I fuck that sick nipple. Fuck that always wanted me

0:49:57.840 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to have my hands on his nipples, and he was

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 1>redic you listen, it's legit. The reason I have not

0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>given him more pussy. I couldn't even touch my clip

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:07.400
<v Speaker 1>without him pulling my hand off of myself to put

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.919
<v Speaker 1>it back on his nipples. Absolutely not. If you can't

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:14.279
<v Speaker 1>consider me while we're having sex fun yourself, can I

0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>actually all questions me because y'all y'all probably talk to

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 1>more women than I do about this. We have live

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 1>homemale live home ahead and ask a questions. Okay, ask

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a question male homemail. All right, So listen, do some

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 1>girls not like getting choked and slapped around? Yes? Yeah,

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm never. Oh yeah I've never. I'm I mean, but

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.759
<v Speaker 1>if you said most of your women you want them

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to be submissive and submissive traits, I'm more of a

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to put your hands on their next or anything like that. Yeah,

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I would definitely like Like, honestly, if you if you

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 1>were like to just walk into a room it sult

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>me having sex, you would have to assume you were

0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:58.359
<v Speaker 1>witnessing a rate, like if you didn't know it from

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, you would have to assume you don't

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about how rough you are before. No, that's probably

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 1>something that should change because I know that I have

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.800
<v Speaker 1>had sex with guys um And I actually had to

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>have this conversation with Fellam Bay actually, and I just

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>assumed it was because he had just gotten out of

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>jail why he was so fucking rough, Like I'm not

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna lie, like when we first sucked, like he was

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 1>sucking me like he tried to prove a point and

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm really dominant, Like what the point you

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to prove? Bro, Calm down, I'm not I'm not

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna lie like, And because I do normally take the

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:31.759
<v Speaker 1>dominant stance in the bedroom or like me, it's like

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a really good balance to where he knows like what

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not into. Yeah, but it's to the point like

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.880
<v Speaker 1>where even his hands like my chest hurt because he

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>was like sucking me but like all my chest very hard,

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the choking. He didn't really slap me, um, but it

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>was still just very rough. And I had to tell

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>him like, hey, bro, next time, you gotta cones down

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>like like that from things that they're seeing or like

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>had to be that porn ship because I'm not gonna lie, Like,

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.240
<v Speaker 1>what's the nigga that All Aways wears the Timberland boots

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in a porn um Wesley Pipes, So Wesley Pipes Fox

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 1>every bitch hardest fun it's him really with him. It

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>says real rough, like bitch ten and it's just like whoa, whoa, whoa.

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of men watch and a lot of

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:21.960
<v Speaker 1>That's why I don't really like straight porn because it's very,

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 1>very very aggressive on the man's side compared to the

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 1>women until we interviewer and so to me, I would say,

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 1>if that's your you know, preference and fucking you should

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely let them know. Just I'm gonna tear that out up,

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:36.800
<v Speaker 1>like you need to let them paid for it doesn't

0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:38.719
<v Speaker 1>mean that they have to accept it, right, and like

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 1>we should all remember that, like, yeah, you know, I'm

0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>not doing anything gets you will obviously I don't think

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that you are. But I also think that a lot

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>of men. I think this is a really good learning

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 1>moment in a teaching moment. Excuse me, because you just

0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:55.719
<v Speaker 1>assume and so you may not know how the girl

0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>feels when she leaves, Like what if she really doesn't

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.360
<v Speaker 1>like being roughed up? Can you imagine being paid for

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:03.359
<v Speaker 1>sex and then being funk like that? You're probably like damn,

0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:08.839
<v Speaker 1>m hmm, be sucked up and so like, I think

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 1>it's really good, especially when and I don't really like

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.879
<v Speaker 1>talking about sex so far in the beginning with dating.

0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 1>But for what you're doing, like yeah, be like, hey,

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like I like to get rough to? Would you enjoy that?

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Like our hands are cool, like there's nothing wrong. We're

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about that and if they say no, then they like,

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:30.359
<v Speaker 1>you know it. We probably shouldn't continue, are you if

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>these girls get off? Do you give a ship? If

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.319
<v Speaker 1>these girls get off? I could see you not caring.

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't care. I'm never it's not it's not something

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I consider. I know how that sounds. No, it's normal

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 1>who don't pay, don't consider. It's not something I consider,

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:51.359
<v Speaker 1>and and or even even when I'm I don't know. Man,

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 1>some girls, some girls, Man, do you think that you

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:56.680
<v Speaker 1>have to care about a girl to maker want to come? Well,

0:53:56.760 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, man, Like some girls, it's a fucking

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 1>ruby's cute, you know, like some most some girls come easy,

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Like every every girl is different, right, It's like trying

0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to find a different combination that's different lock every time.

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's cool. Um, but you're paying for the service,

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:16.839
<v Speaker 1>so you feel like you just want to come. You're paying,

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 1>so I just want to get my I kind of

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the most reasonable thing. Like I don't more something

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I agree than like asking what the women want, Like

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with that, but I kind of get that.

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Like if I'm getting paid to funk, like I don't

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:32.319
<v Speaker 1>expect you to go all out for me. I mean,

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny. I'm a deal with some super simps

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 1>because I don't had a nigger like give me money.

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And he wanted his dick stuck and I didn't want

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:39.240
<v Speaker 1>to suck his sick and I told him I don't

0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 1>want to suck a sick. I don't be riding dick.

0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 1>This one thing. I was like, I'm a big ass

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:44.800
<v Speaker 1>spoiled brat, like even if a nigg is paying me

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:46.759
<v Speaker 1>or helping me with bills, like I'm gonna do what

0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to do in the bedroom. I mean, and

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you you made a comment earlier that you didn't believe

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>he did it because he's good looking, now do you

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 1>believe it? I feel like he needs a therapist. But um,

0:54:56.480 --> 0:55:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I definitely think this ain't the only reason. I definitely

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:03.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's some sort of not only entitlement, but

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:06.800
<v Speaker 1>um the fact that you don't want emotional attachment with

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 1>a woman right now for whatever reason. Maybe it's a

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.800
<v Speaker 1>commitment phobia that you have. But not only that. I

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 1>could see a woman who might also be fed up

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 1>with that. If she was dating him and you're telling

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 1>me you have sex with you and mind and not

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:22.800
<v Speaker 1>her in mind, that could be an issue even in

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the long run, Like you're not caring if I even come.

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of men move in that

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:29.800
<v Speaker 1>way and that's what causes maybe some women that she

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 1>step out like he doesn't know these girls and he's paying. No,

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying if he wasn't in the paying round. And

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking now to the to the men who might

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:40.320
<v Speaker 1>have this mentality who when they have sex they're worried

0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>about them nutting and not really the pleasure of a woman. Well,

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:45.160
<v Speaker 1>he's the girls who are like more long term, like

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:48.319
<v Speaker 1>I know how to make them come right. I really

0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 1>feel like you don't know how to make anyone come.

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I just have I really have that feeling right now

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 1>with you. I mean, and I could be wrong. I

0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 1>could be wrong, you know, I could be honestly be right.

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just wait, I feel like, you know

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the long term women, do you give a ship like yea, yeah, yeah,

0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:10.520
<v Speaker 1>if they are yeah, because like we have a different

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:15.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of attachment, you know, Okay, it's just a girl,

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:18.440
<v Speaker 1>just like I don't feel like he got no attachment

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to nobody is how did this become an adversarial It's

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:26.000
<v Speaker 1>not an adversarial relationship. I genuinely just feel like everything

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:28.719
<v Speaker 1>that you're having to super think about or whatever, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, your responses to me are just like, okay,

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:33.760
<v Speaker 1>you pay for pussy, that's it. Like any type of connection,

0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:37.400
<v Speaker 1>any type of caring what the other person cares about.

0:56:37.719 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you have no no sense of that,

0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't give a funk what they want, what

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:45.879
<v Speaker 1>their feelings are, if they come or if they don't come.

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 1>So you're telling me, yeah, some of the people have

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 1>relationships with their yet you don't know. I'm just saying,

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like you're saying it sounds good, but

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely feel like you have maybe a huge sense

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of health worth where you kind of just don't value anyone.

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 1>That's why you have to pay for pussy. Because I

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:12.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like in a dating yet we had one they do.

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>We can see that narrative, like you just see like

0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>a woman being like, oh, you're too arrogant. But you

0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:21.080
<v Speaker 1>know what, this is exactly why I pay bitches because

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:23.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to hear. But not only that, but

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know or to know that you're having sex

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:29.880
<v Speaker 1>without without To be fair, I've never been with a

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.760
<v Speaker 1>man that's given me. I'm not talking about man with money.

0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about men that have dropped thousands on me

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that weren't arrogant. Yeah, but I'll deal with arrogant men.

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like, and maybe it's because of how

0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:43.479
<v Speaker 1>open a person is able to get with me, even

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the men that I have dealt with who have dropped money,

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's been an eager sense to kind

0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of please me. And maybe because I've openly talked about

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 1>how men make me orgasm, now they feel like they're

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 1>in competition to also make me orgasm. But I think

0:57:57.680 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that's speaking to the persons who write like you have

0:57:59.880 --> 0:58:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to keep in mind that you are the one. In

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:07.440
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, from what it's sounding like, I don't mean

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 1>this how it sounds. You're asking, and he's searching for

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 1>these women. They they've come to me, and now we've

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 1>gotten arrangement. I'm talking about, Are you on seeking arrangement? No,

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not on seeking right now, because he's on seeking arrangement,

0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.320
<v Speaker 1>looking for women, screening for you know, a certain level

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 1>of uh, you know, for a certain sort of relationship.

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:30.520
<v Speaker 1>He's technically so on seeking arrangement right when you're having

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 1>like like in this case. To me, I feel like

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:36.320
<v Speaker 1>there's more of a surplus of women than there are

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:39.439
<v Speaker 1>men that are really willing to pay, which is why

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 1>he can do ship like this opposed to what you're

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 1>going through where they're finding a hot girl that's willing

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to suck them and they're like, ship, well, what else

0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:51.520
<v Speaker 1>do I have to do for you to keep sucking me?

0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:54.040
<v Speaker 1>When they know you've got niggas on your line. The

0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 1>frame is different, you know, like they came in from

0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 1>with a different understanding. To me, I feel like it's

0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 1>not that hard for you to find a dude to

0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>break you out, and these guys experience, right, the ones

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:07.640
<v Speaker 1>that you're meeting right, you can and you're open about

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the men that are hitting up at least right now

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.200
<v Speaker 1>at this point in the game. Whereas for you, these

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:13.840
<v Speaker 1>are girls that really need to go to give them

0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 1>some cash. And if you're paying three hundred dollars to fun,

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:18.640
<v Speaker 1>if a bit just sucking for three and dollars, she

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 1>needs money? Yeah, just need money, man, you know. And

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:26.160
<v Speaker 1>in in uh, you know, it's it's not that I

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:30.160
<v Speaker 1>don't care, it's just it's not you know what, I

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:31.680
<v Speaker 1>don't even want to touch on that. The part I

0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:34.720
<v Speaker 1>want to get on is when you say you said,

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's why he has to write. Here's the thing

0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I if I had to, I wouldn't be ashamed of

0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that either. Rice with um because I can cook a

0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:54.840
<v Speaker 1>pizza better than Dominoes. That's a lot of that's more effort.

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go buy this ship, I gotta go to

0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the grocery store, I gotta come on, I gotta prepare it,

0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:01.040
<v Speaker 1>or I gotta hit the fucking the app. And that's

1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 1>just shows up, right, and and it's not even being

1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:07.400
<v Speaker 1>being lazy. It's more like, you know, times your most

1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:10.360
<v Speaker 1>valuable asset. Right, So if if I really don't, I

1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:13.560
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be the relationship, not not just because

1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm an asshole or dick. It's probably some of that too, right,

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:19.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's more so I don't have the the time

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<v Speaker 1>to give a relationship what it deserves, right for real,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest about that. Uh So the circumvent that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I set up the situation where, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what's up. They just they can just come

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<v Speaker 1>through if they're done with that, and then that's you

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<v Speaker 1>make problem. Yeah, that's probably the most sense you made. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you don't really make none, but it's cool. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you coming onto the show. You are anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>so unfortunately, ladies, you can't know who this guy is, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but we appreciate that. Um. Fellows. If you have any

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<v Speaker 1>cut this show off, let's talk about in November six. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're both from Florida. There was a piece of ship

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<v Speaker 1>governor that I had in my time named Rick Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>a dick. Okay, he could have definitely helped convict Georgie's nan,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't. And I hate to get on this

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<v Speaker 1>with y'all, but we finally have a black man who's

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<v Speaker 1>running for governor in Florida and he's dope. Go out

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<v Speaker 1>and vote, and you guys should go and vote and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't vote right, use your car to pick

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<v Speaker 1>people up to vote, convince other people, use your social

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<v Speaker 1>media if you're an influencer, if you've got some leverage,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a fucking asshole in office, because y'all, motherfucker's

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida's less the fuck down. Okay, So do me

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<v Speaker 1>a favor, Wheezy, take a picture of you with your

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<v Speaker 1>voting sicker, and I'm gonna send you a kiss or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a cleavage shot. Yeah that so um, go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and vote again, And thank you guys so much for

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