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Speaker 3: All right, MANX, you go ahead. Welcome to the Richard

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Speaker 3: Sherman Podcast. The Seattle Seahawks' defense balled out sex for everybody.

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Speaker 3: It looked like Saxonville. My goodness, everybody looked great. The

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Speaker 3: rook Devin Witherspoon two sacks, interception return ninety seven yards,

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Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner eighteen tackles, two sacks, O Chinna Nuosu two sacks,

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Speaker 3: everybody all over the field. The defense played eleague. Wandre

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Speaker 3: Diggs played a great game as always. They health the

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks badly needed. Geno Smith got a little banged up,

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Speaker 3: They're only getting better. The NFC better watch out because

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Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks are roaring back in a big way.

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Speaker 3: You love to see it. And you got DK Metcalf

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Speaker 3: ball over? Did all right? Did his part? I love it.

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Speaker 3: out and that's what they've been doing. And this week

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Speaker 3: We got one of my favorite guys, Nico Suavee. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, baby, doing great? Man, Glad to be on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me anytime. You look good? You

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Speaker 3: look good, y'all playing good. How do you feel about

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Speaker 3: the team. I feel great about the team.

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Speaker 4: Obviously it's a young team, new coaches, uh, new city,

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Speaker 4: think everything is starting to click. You know, it took

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Speaker 3: I mean they're four games. Ain't no time, you know,

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Speaker 3: as you know, you know, things come together a lot

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Speaker 4: It's you know, as things go on, he leans on

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Speaker 4: You know, in training camp, Saran, you know how it

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Speaker 3: that's why de Miko wanted to grab you and bring

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Speaker 3: you over there. Uh has your leadership role changed? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do a lot of I do a lot

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it, shir I never forget when you

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Speaker 4: I was chilling. I ain't say too much because you know,

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Speaker 4: So you came over there and then you know, you

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Speaker 4: was saying everything. Then one day you was like, hey, Jim.

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Speaker 2: I need you to talk. You need me to talk,

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, man, okay.

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Speaker 4: Do all the talking and I was like, God, but

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying just that, you know, helping me, you know,

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Speaker 3: Boy. That boy Kwan Quan is still out there like

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Speaker 3: that boy, I said, Kuan, you killing legendary, legendary. Uh

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Speaker 3: Sting Lee is gonna end up being one of the

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Speaker 3: best young corners in the National Football League. Uh tell

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he over the strappie like he feisty, like I

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Speaker 4: Few guys are like, hey, you know you're over there

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Speaker 4: Tank Dale was getting busy on our corners during OTAs

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Speaker 4: the line with Steve Man. I was like, yeah, Steve

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Speaker 4: kind of, you know, I felt it. But I was like,

433
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 4: all right, I'm gonna just see how it plays out,

434
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 4: and about to come back in the lineup, and they

435
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 4: put a package in for me, and I saw the

436
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 4: package and I was like, right, man, this this nickel.

437
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 4: Oh okay, what you call it? Like like, oh, we're

438
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 4: gonna call it money. There's a nickel bro a look

439
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 4: bro y'all all right?

440
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 3: All right?

441
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 2: So okay?

442
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 4: So I had and then the first play and never

443
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 4: forget first play. I came back week five because I

444
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 4: got pitted on it by four weeks short.

445
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 2: I ar week five, I.

446
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 4: Come back and I get my hand how I break

447
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 4: my hand. Wrestling with one of the best special teams

448
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 4: for the Carolina Panthers. Broke my hand on the first

449
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 4: play kick off. I was like, ran back to the sideline.

450
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, man, now you know I kind

451
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 4: of dinosed myself. You know, I broke so many bones

452
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 4: that you know, I know what it feels like. And

453
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 4: I moved my hand.

454
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: It clicked.

455
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 4: It kept clicking, like hey man, I just well, I

456
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 4: think it was my left hand I moved. I was

457
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 4: a left handed finger. I can't remember. I broke a

458
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 4: lot of phones. I was like, man, y'all, I think

459
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 4: I think I broke a bone, this and that, Like

460
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 4: all right, let me go.

461
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 2: Check it out. Broke my bone.

462
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 4: So I had to have surgery that next week, so

463
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 4: put a cast on it. I was out Atlanta game

464
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 4: and next week it was Cancy Chief and they was like, man,

465
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 4: sure you want to play Cancity Chief.

466
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I don't think I got a choice. Man.

467
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I said, I need to go

468
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 4: ahead and get out there. It's like, I haven't played

469
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 4: a game yet. So coming back can City Chief with

470
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 4: a cast on and I went in there and I

471
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 4: talked to the Miko, I already knew what I was

472
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 4: going to do, so I was like, man, let me

473
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 4: embrace it.

474
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: I was like, man, you never know what would happen,

475
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 2: said Miko. Man, just put me a.

476
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 4: Nickel, you know how you really you want to nickel

477
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 4: whole time? Like I don't I have a choice. Y'all

478
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 4: gonna do it anyway. So he was like, okay, all right,

479
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 4: So he put me a nickel, and I had to

480
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 4: learn like the blind technique. I had to learn a

481
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 4: few different techniques because I told them this too. This,

482
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 4: this is the thing that the really, the really thing

483
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 4: that kind of made me mad a little bit was

484
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 4: I was told him like, hey, during training camp, I

485
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 4: was like, hey, man, if I'm looking around, like man,

486
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 4: y'all might need to let me get some nickel wraps

487
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 4: in training camp so I can practice it in training

488
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 4: camp because I see what's going on, like, oh no,

489
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 4: you won't you know, no, you ain't gonna need no

490
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 4: no training creps and this and that. I'm like, all right,

491
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 4: cause you know obviously, you know you had they had

492
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: a few nickels there they had, uh want to say

493
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 4: it was Sammy Womack that they had right there, But

494
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 4: I and I don't know.

495
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 2: They didn't like uh, they didn't.

496
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 4: Like like, I guess the physicality part when it came

497
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 4: into the tackling stuff, but the covers there, like he

498
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 4: making plays on the ball and so.

499
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: And then on top of that, they pay me.

500
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 4: You know that year they paid me, So you know,

501
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 4: the owner's gonna be looking at hey, man, you're not

502
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 4: playing this guy and we're paying them how many X

503
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 4: amount of money? Like like come on, So I'm not right.

504
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: So obviously they had to pick me on the field

505
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 4: somewhere and had the worst game of my uh of

506
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 4: my of that year versus Kensee Chiefs the bores was

507
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: every it don't matter. If they don't got Tyreek Hill,

508
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 4: they're gonna find somebody else that running four to three,

509
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 4: four to four, gave up a crossing route touchdown ran

510
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 4: in the fred at one time they called that back

511
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: because it was some flag holding on the place. So

512
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 4: I would have gave up two touchdowns back to back.

513
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: But it work out.

514
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 4: Yes, it was rough and okay. So by the time

515
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 4: I come now and then we get blue out the game.

516
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 4: So oh and then Kelsey started talking smack to me

517
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 4: because he caught the ball on me. He ripped me

518
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 4: with a double move, Sir, he hit me with a

519
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 4: double move in link coverage. Oh, how do you got

520
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: time to run?

521
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: And I'm jamming them off the line.

522
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 4: Obviously I got one hand, but I'm jamming them off

523
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: the line and it took time. How do you hit

524
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 4: me with a double banana out and I'm pressing you.

525
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: And lean coverage.

526
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: You don't Patrick Mahomes somehow escaping the pressure, rolling out

527
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 4: hitting them. Then after he catched the ball, he get up,

528
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 4: stop talking this, Stop talking this. I was like, and

529
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 4: I looked. I was like, oh, because you know, you

530
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 4: know Sherman, I was talking that smack because I realized.

531
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 4: I was like, man, let me start talking a little

532
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 4: bit man, for I can get some more balls off

533
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 4: some recognition. So I was like, man, tight ends, you

534
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: know Kittle tight end University thing, Like, Man, any tight

535
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: end over there won't get.

536
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: Over fifty for fifty yards for me. And then I

537
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: was like, maybe Kittle.

538
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: And I was saying that just to be nice, just

539
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 4: because Kittle was my teammate at the time, and and

540
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 4: it absolutely it didn't happen. But he caught one one

541
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: catch finally, and that was probably what like twelve fifty

542
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: yards and that's I think that's about it. And he

543
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 4: ain't he ain't catch no more on me with one

544
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 4: one hand, well one hand basically, but other than that. Okay,

545
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 4: fast forwarded to the back end of the season. No, no, no,

546
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 4: fast forwarded to uh bucks game Tampa Bay.

547
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 3: That's what he was at.

548
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: He was over there, So look, okay, going to the

549
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 2: Tempa Bay game.

550
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 4: Uh okay. Obviously I was on the game playing for

551
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 4: the Tempa Bay. Hey, we're gonna target a nickel. That's

552
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 4: what Tom Brady was on because I had I don't

553
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 4: know how many targets I had, but I had a lot,

554
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 4: and I held my own. I had a great game,

555
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 4: and it was towards the end of the game, and

556
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 4: I know, uh mooney now he started coaching, started taking

557
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 4: players out out the game and stuff or whatever. And

558
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 4: then something happened with I think uh D Moore he

559
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 4: went down or something. And then I guess they were

560
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 4: trying to snatch players out the game. And it's like

561
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 4: the last last series, and uh, I know, they ended

562
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 4: up coming to me. They see you, came to me.

563
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, we need you to move the corner. Uh,

564
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 4: you know, AT's ankle kind of bummed up. I said,

565
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: eight was just running down kickoff, Like, what do you

566
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 4: mean at at ankle was bombed up? I was like, bro,

567
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 4: put him at corner. Where did you hide him from?

568
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 4: Like y'all draft him third round to play corner? Like

569
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 4: what you're talking about like ankle, Like I'm out here

570
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: with a broke hand. You're saying his ankle hurt and

571
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 4: he's on specs teams. I'm I looked at him. I

572
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: was like, and I told him, it's my first time.

573
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 4: I said, No, said I'm not. I'm not going to corner.

574
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 2: Bro.

575
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: I was like, I had no practice at the corner.

576
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: I said, you already did me like this once and

577
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 4: so and I was then Miko came and asked me.

578
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't do it, so no, And

579
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: then I heard coach Kyle from the side. I guess

580
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 4: we'll just pit his ease at corner, I said, And

581
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 4: that's when I snapped. I was like, man, I guess

582
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to and and uh. After that, and

583
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 4: I went forced the funder the end of game, I

584
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: was covered to I blitzed as the nickel forced the

585
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 4: funder in the game. So now I don't nobody really

586
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 4: had to play corner. It's the game over went in.

587
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 4: I was hot, I didn't come in for the team breakdown,

588
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 4: got jumped in the shower, got my clothes, left and

589
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 4: no no no. Before I left, the Jed told me, yeah,

590
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: Coach Kyle wanted to talk to you. So when they

591
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: talked to Coach Kyle, and Coach Kyle was like, uh.

592
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: Just like hey, Jimmy, Uh like, man, what's going on?

593
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: Man?

594
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: It really hurt me when you're saying you we always

595
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 4: do you like this.

596
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, I mean you you have birl.

597
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: You changed my position eight times.

598
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: Bro, you try to get me out of here multiple times,

599
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 4: like I like, just yes, I don't. I can't forget it,

600
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: like I can forget like that. I can't control that.

601
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: But you did what you did. And for me to

602
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: feel like that, how I feel, yes, I should You're nine,

603
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 4: like come on, man, like I see what's going on.

604
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: So after that, me and Kyle never really never talked

605
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 4: the rest of the season, never said anything to each other.

606
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 4: And then that's why I said that at the Philadelphia game.

607
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: And that's probably something the stuff that we're down with

608
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: Jimmy too. I don't know, man, because I feel like

609
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: Jimmy could have dressed out. I feel like Jimmy could

610
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 4: dressed out that last game. But you know, you know

611
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: how to go, you know how this how this stuff. Yeah,

612
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 4: I see, I seen your boy shooting a bird when

613
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: he broke his when he broke his legs, So I know,

614
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: I know how it goes. So and we end up

615
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 4: after the after the game Philadelphia game, I said, when

616
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 4: they told me it wasn't to catch, You're like, yeah,

617
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 4: you know it wasn't a catch.

618
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: I was like, oh for real, I said, Man, I

619
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: guess I had a good game.

620
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 4: It's like I said, hey, man, if anybody need a

621
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 4: safety and free agency, man, you know, come hot, let me.

622
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: That's how I left it. And I know I talked

623
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: to John. This is the exit meeting last AX me

624
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: and I talked to John. John came in and it

625
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: was like, hey, Jimmy, you know, you know I'm a

626
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: Jimmy war fan. You know, we love you and this

627
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: and that and love the hell you to come back.

628
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, all right, And I was

629
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: thinking in my head, I was like it's gonna it's

630
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: gonna be a time for a change of scenery. And uh,

631
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: I ain't tell him that, but I already knew what

632
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 4: time it was. And he was like, yeah, you know,

633
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: coach Kyle, he'd love to talk to you. You know,

634
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: he don't got you on the meeting thing, like oh here,

635
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: got me meet And I'm like, well, I do need

636
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: to go and holler at.

637
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: Them, like what we need to talk about?

638
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 4: We to talk about then, like I already know what

639
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: time it is, Like come on, man, I've been around

640
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: this business for a long time.

641
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: Like I holler at you and I see you. I play.

642
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: I got a lot of love for you.

643
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, you still gave me

644
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: a contract, you still allowed me to start on your

645
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: and your team, You still helped change the culture, and

646
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 4: I got the experience some stuff. I never got the

647
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: experience in the league until you you know, became the

648
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: head coach.

649
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that. But that's it, Like I see,

650
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: I see you when I see you, right right, So

651
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: what made you pick Houston?

652
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: I picked Houston because during that process, after the Chiefs game,

653
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: when that happened, when I told I went up oh

654
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: at the chief games, I forgot I left that part.

655
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 4: I went to coach Kyle. That's what happened. Oh, I

656
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: forgot the main part. I went to coach Kyle after

657
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: the Chiefs game when I had that bad game my

658
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: first game back. I was like, I went to coach

659
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: Kyle because I didn't go to Miko. Because anytime you

660
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: go to like if I would have went to the

661
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: position coach, what they I tell you when they don't

662
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 4: want to answer your question. Oh, it's over my head.

663
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: So I went to the head guy. I said, let

664
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: me go to coach Kyle. Let me look him in

665
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 4: the eye and hear from his mouth. Hear it out

666
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: of his mouth say, man, I don't want to play nickel. No, mo,

667
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: I want to play safety. He said, oh you, oh,

668
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: you don't want to start. And when he told me that,

669
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: I said, I said no, I said, you put me

670
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: on SPST teams.

671
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: I bought our special.

672
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: Teams, like, oh, just give it a forty eight hour rule.

673
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, I gave it the forty

674
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 4: hour rule. And that's why after that Tempa Bay Buccaneers,

675
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 4: when I had to talk to him after the game,

676
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 4: when he asked me what was wrong, I said, I

677
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: can't talk right now. I was like, man, I'm really frustrated.

678
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: Let's just give it the forty eight hour rule. That's true,

679
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 4: that's right, And that's really the last conversation that we

680
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: really had. And but yeah, when he told me that,

681
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 4: I already knew, Like he told me like, hey, you

682
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: can't You're not finna start. I was like, okay, all right, cool,

683
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: and I chose and I went to Miko. So when

684
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: I went to Miko and I told Miko, I was like, look,

685
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: I talked to coach Kyle and that said. The reason

686
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: why I talked to coach Kyle before I came to

687
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: you is because you know, if you can't answer my questions,

688
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: you're gonna tell me it's over your head. It's not

689
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: your you know, it's not you who's making the decisions,

690
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: which most likely nine times out of ten, that's true.

691
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: So I told Miko. I was like, you know, I said, man,

692
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: this is my last year here. I was like, I'm

693
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: wherever I'm going, I'm gonna go and play safety. I said,

694
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: all the rest of the stuff, if you you could

695
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: use me, yeah, like use my versatility. You're like, I understand,

696
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 4: I can do a lot of a lot of nice

697
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: things use it, but my main position need to be safety.

698
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: I've been telling you all that for forever. And he said, well,

699
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: if I get a head coaching job, I'm gonna get

700
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: you to come play safety for me. Give your opportunity

701
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: to come start safety for me. And that's and that's

702
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: how they went.

703
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. It looked like it's

704
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: working out good. Jim. It looked like it's working out good.

705
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: You're in a good space. I just know Houston hot

706
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: as fish grease out there.

707
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: Boy, it took me a while to get used to it.

708
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm swell. I'm still cramping. Like some some

709
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: days when it's super hot, like it's one hundred degrees,

710
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta really start drinking the day before,

711
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: like today, Like I'm drinking drinking pedia, like like a

712
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: gallon of that, uh well, a leader of that or

713
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 4: two and just a bunch of water salt ivy ivy's

714
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: uh water IV's. It's just man, it's it's crazy. It's

715
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: crazy hot out here, but it's good. It could training condition.

716
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: Just because when we went to Jacksonville and we played

717
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: them in Florida, it didn't even feel hot, like we

718
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 4: felt so good. They was hot. We didn't feel hot,

719
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: which is crazy. And it's like, golly, you feel like

720
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: Florida is way hot, hotter than than Houston.

721
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Texas is super hot. But now you got your

722
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: living in a nice house. Uh the cost of living

723
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: ain't what it is in California. Uh, my goodness, got

724
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: California boy. Uh family, good family, great man.

725
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 4: Uh, daughter's getting big sons getting big man, mom, good dad,

726
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: good like every everything's good. I'm close to home, like

727
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: in Houston is close to Mobile, close to the bed

728
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 4: West Wisconsin with a lot of my family still live

729
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: at So it's you know, it's it's closer and it

730
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: feels like home. Food is phenomenal out here.

731
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 3: So there you go.

732
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: I said, I'm enjoying myself the first time I can

733
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: hold two hundred pounds, Like it's it's crazy, but nah,

734
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: I'm in I'm definitely in a good space man, and

735
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying it.

736
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: You know, that's the main thing, Like just enjoying my job.

737
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: You know, it's you know how the NFL is, it's

738
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: a lot of pressure, but they don't feel like pressure.

739
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: If if you feel like if you're doing it the

740
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: right way.

741
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: Right right, and you're doing it the right way, Jim.

742
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: I'm happy for you. So y'all. I mean, I feel

743
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: like y'all got to shout at the playoffs. Y'all, boys,

744
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: just keep playing free. You know that division can go anyway.

745
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: Tennessee playing well. But you know y'all can get Jacksonville.

746
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: Y'all can get Tennessee. You can get them all. Really,

747
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: y'all got talent.

748
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's definitely just you know, keep stacking these days,

749
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 4: taking it, you know, one day at a time, not

750
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: looking ahead. We get that win in the forty eight

751
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 4: and forty eight hour rule and there like, which is crazy,

752
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: Like we didn't have a home win in the stadium.

753
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: I heard to like it was twenty twenty one October?

754
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: Was it October?

755
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: December?

756
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: December?

757
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: December twenty twenty one, and we finally got our home

758
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: first home win.

759
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: That's that's a long time.

760
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: So, like I said, we started winning these home games,

761
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: start stacking up these wins, and that's when we can

762
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: get that crowd back in it, you know, because in

763
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 4: that dome and you're getting the crowd in it, that's

764
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 4: that's it can get loud and get very hard for

765
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 4: the opposing team when they come, you know, to our

766
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: to our dome, and coming.

767
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: Playoffs get hard for you do to hear because your

768
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: own defense. That's the hard thing about getting loud at home.

769
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: If you're sitting there like, yeah, get loud, then you'd

770
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: be like, hey check cryet for one second, like hey

771
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 3: check a bunch, look.

772
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: Head communications, It will be all.

773
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: Right, right right right? Well, damn good to see your

774
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: gym if you got you got any questions for me?

775
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: Uh, how how you like your new job? Man?

776
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: Hi?

777
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: I see, it ain't bad. It ain't bad. You know,

778
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: they let me talk football every day, and and you know,

779
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: four five days a week. I enjoyed. I get to

780
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: watch you, I get to watch everybody. Uh, I had fun.

781
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: I had fun. It's a lot of fun. We got

782
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: a good team, undisputed. I get to you know, argue

783
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: with Skip all day. That ain't bad. He just be

784
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 3: spitting nonsense, so you know, got to keep him under control.

785
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: But family is good. Were just hoping the restaurant, Uh yeah,

786
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: doing what I gotta do.

787
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: Where you open it up at.

788
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: In Bellevue, it's usually you know where the team stay

789
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: right across from like the Western Hotel in Bellevue. It's

790
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: it's a good spot.

791
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: Congratulations. I had to come check it out when I come.

792
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 3: Out that way. Yeah, let me know when you're out here.

793
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if you can answer this, but I

794
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: was finna say how you feel about what it is.

795
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: Danny Dimes, Oh my god, I just if they're talking

796
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: about him, Oh my god, that boy, that boy got

797
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: a ski mass going on out there. Yim Robin man,

798
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: that man out there stealing. But you know, you hate

799
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: to talk bad about players. He just he's just having

800
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: a rough year right now.

801
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 4: Well, you know what's so weird to me about that,

802
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: Like how they didn't they didn't want to pay the

803
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: running back. They didn't want to pay him. Like is

804
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: y'all watching football or not? Like is y'all watching the Giants.

805
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: Giants got one of the biggest media's media sources out there, Like, dude,

806
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 4: is main the main reason why y'all was winning gaming.

807
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 4: I didn't want to pay him. I get it, the

808
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: injuries with the running backs and this and that.

809
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: But like I don't want to say too much, but right, right, right,

810
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: But it's just funny.

811
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 3: It is funny.

812
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: This game, This game funny I tell you.

813
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: The game is different, but I'm glad you're in a

814
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: good spot. Uh tell me go on, said what up.

815
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: I check on you later on in the year when

816
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: y'all y'all wait to the playoffs. Appreciate you joining me,

817
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: Jie all right, thank you for having me Searan anytime. Brother, alright, Brother.

818
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 3: The volume