1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: We're on every day, Well, no we're not. We're on 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: from one till four today and Monday, and then on Tuesday. Tuesday, 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: we are moving to a new time slot three to six, 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: really our old time slot three to six on Tuesday, 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: February seventeenth, and from noon to three, you'll be enjoying. 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: You'll be enjoying, Uh, Michael, Marilyn Monks, Chris Merrill? 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Is it? 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: No? 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Is it Marilyn Monks or Monks? 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 4: And Marylan Monks and Meryl's Monks and Mary I'm wondering. 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got stuck there. I was trying to think 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: who it's Michael Monks and Chris Merril. That's the order, 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: It's Monks. 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 4: Then Merril is Monks going to be sitting in your 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 4: chair and Meryll's going to be sitting in the co 18 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 4: host chair. 19 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: I meant to We did have an interview with them 20 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: yesterday and that didn't come up. But we will have 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: a new show from noon to three, and Deborah and 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: I and Ray and Eric are Everyone's coming together. 23 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: We're all moved like. 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 2: A big happy family three to six, and then Conway's 25 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: back from six to ten. So it's monks and then 26 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: Merril right right sitting there in mahad goes Monks and 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: Maryls and Maryland monks and Meryl. Okay, now let's talk 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: to all right. We're making a programming change here. We 29 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: were going to talk to Don Mahollick for ABC News 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: about the Nancy Guthrie case. Put that on hold for now. 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: We are going to speak with Vince Fong at the moment. 32 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: Vince Fong, he is calling for answers because the California 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: High Speed Rail Authority just approved a change order. They're 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: going to be paying a contractor five hundred and thirty 35 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: seven million dollars, almost over a half a billion dollars 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: for a change order. There's been almost six hundred change 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: orders and over costing over two billion dollars. But this 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: is a whopper, and he wants to know if there's 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: federal money involved in and that that would make it 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: the federal government's business. 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Vince, are you there? 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: Yes? I am, Hey John, how are you? 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm your boy. 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: It's good to have you on again. So tell me 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: what do you know about this change order? This is 46 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: the largest change order I've ever seen in my life. 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: Oh well, you and I have talked about this nightmare 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: project for a long time, and it's hard to believe 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: that this project is getting worse, but you know so, yeah, 50 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: you're right. The California High Speed Reil Authority just approved 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: the largest change order in this project history, five hundred 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: and thirty seven million dollars. We're trying to figure out 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: what's in it. I mean, the High Spreel Authority approved 54 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: it in their last hearing. They're refusing to disclose the 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: specifics what went into it. You know, we want to 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 3: know how much federal money went into it, you know, 57 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 3: how much state money went into it. But the thing 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: is this, not only is this change order massive, And 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 3: you mentioned that there's one contractor got two point three 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: billion dollars for nearly five hundred and ninety seven change orders. 61 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: If you look at the total number of change orders 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: with the three major contractors, nearly sixteen hundred change orders 63 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 3: accounting for six billion dollars. 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's okay. 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: Oh, so the six hundred change orders and the and 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: the over two billion that's just for this contractor, just 67 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: one contractor. 68 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: That's one contractor. If you look at the three main contractors, 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: there has been close to sixteen hundred change orders totaling 70 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: six nearly six billion dollars. 71 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: We have six billion dollars that we've only spent like 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: seventeen billion. That's over a third of the money has 73 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: already been on change orders exactly. 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: This is how this is how scary this is. And 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: then this one contractor that you and I are talking 76 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: about right now, they've been in arbitration for years with 77 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: the California High Speed Will Authority. The authority has been 78 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: delaying work. They they haven't been able to relocate utilities. Uh, 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: they haven't been able to get parcels. I mean, so 80 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: it's the authority's fault in many ways, this. 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: Is a delay was just like a delay penalty? Or 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: do they keep changing the design? 83 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: Well, that's what we're trying to find out. The authority 84 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 3: has been trying to has been changing what we think, 85 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: has been changing the designs, has been changing the project, 86 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: and of course this contractor has been been forced to 87 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: adjust and to adapt. I mean, this is how crazy 88 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: this project has become. And again, Gavin Newsom years ago 89 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: said I'm gonna I'm going to release every change order, 90 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: and I'm going to make it public. And then he 91 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: realized with so many change orders, he didn't want to 92 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: release all of them publicly anymore. So then he then 93 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: he was giving some he was getting summar raise of them. 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: And then you know, I introduced legislation before I left 95 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: to Congress. Tom Lackey got assigned the law. But the 96 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: bill was to say any change order that totaled over 97 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars had to be voted on by 98 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: the high stree Relati and made public. Well, he's got 99 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: a new why we found out that one. 100 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: He's got a new bill he's trying to get passed 101 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: which would allow the Inspector General to seal all records 102 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: that make California High Speed Rail look bad, anything that 103 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: makes it look bad. They can they can seal the 104 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: records that that can't be legal. 105 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: Lori Wilson is trying to do this, and I'm lucky, 106 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: but Lorie Wilson's been trying to do this. I mean, 107 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: the the Inspector General now is in his we I 108 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: mean he's advocating for less transparency. I mean, this is 109 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: how backwards can Sacramento, I mean get when this project 110 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: is so bad. They're actually trying to hide information from 111 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: the public. 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: And you're saying it's it's the fault of high speed rail. 113 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: Their their whole their whole design system, their whole calendar 114 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: is so chaotic, their ability to secure land and I 115 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: guess getting all the permits and waivers and uh that 116 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 2: that that's six billion dollars change. That's crazy. 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: That's that's what I'm That's what I'm hearing right now. 118 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: But that's what we're trying to get out of the 119 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: specific That's why we've been demanding from High fred Rail 120 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: Athority to High Spredrail Authority. You know how much federal 121 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: funds was used in the settlement? How much state funds? 122 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: You know, did you notify the Federal Rail Authority? You know, 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: what were the compliance audits that were done regarding to 124 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 3: some I mean, we have to there's so much information 125 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: that we need. How do you say this is so 126 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: much money is wasting. 127 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: This company's name is called Dragon Dos. 128 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Dragon does Flat Iron Joint Venture. I mean, this 129 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: is a sixty five mile segment. We really at a 130 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: sixty five mile segment that now is costing you know, 131 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: over two point three billion dollars in change orders. 132 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: You make this up? 133 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: How did they build the Amtrak system and the Transcontinental 134 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 2: freight railroads? How did they do this like one hundred 135 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: and fifty years ago. 136 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: That's a good question, something question. 137 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: We don't be riding horses still if it was up 138 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: to this crowd. 139 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: Well, this whole project was supposed to be done by 140 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. I mean, the California voter was promised a 141 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: five hundred miles segment of a high speed rail from 142 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 3: San francisc or LA for a total cost of thirty 143 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: four billion dollars, to be done in twenty twenty. We 144 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: don't have We have no track, we have no train. 145 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: You know, I know it's insane and. 146 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: This may not be your area of expertise, but just 147 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: how many different ways can they basically lie to the taxpayer? Right, 148 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: because there were specific delineations in the original referendum, right, 149 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: and everything that they put in the referendum that we 150 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: agreed to by passing it in a vote. Just like 151 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: I think dozens of things have been violated. At what 152 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: point can a judge step in and shut this thing down? 153 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: This is massive fraud. No company could get away with 154 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: this kind of fraud. Is there any legal recourse. 155 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: It's a total bait and switch. I mean, look, we 156 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: are going to I mean I would want to look 157 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: at it from going to court. I mean again, remember 158 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: that the federal government took the We took the four 159 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: billion dollars away. So I worked with President Trump and 160 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: Secretary depty We took the four billion dollars of federal 161 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: money away because we didn't trust what the authority was doing. 162 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: And remember Bonta and gavinus and says we're gonna sue, 163 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna sue to take the money away. 164 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: And right around Christmas time what happened. The State of 165 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: California said, we're not suing anymore. We're not gonna work. 166 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 3: Because if they had a legitimate lawsuit, you know, they 167 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: probably should then, you know, take us to court. But 168 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: they knew that they couldn't sell, They couldn't they couldn't 169 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: defend what they were doing, so they quietly, you know, 170 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: got rid of the lawsuit. 171 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: This okay, So I mean, do you think they're going 172 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: to respond, But because it seems what's in fashion these days, 173 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: like with Karen bass Uh is they just don't respond 174 00:08:59,440 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: to anything. 175 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: They nothing, I mean can you suppote this, we. 176 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: Might call them for a congress I mean, that's what 177 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: we probably need to do. But I've talked to a 178 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: couple of my my, my former colleagues in the state legislature. 179 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: I mean, they need to be calling for audits, uh, 180 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: within the within the within the budget. 181 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: Committee, and within the audit committee. 182 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 3: I mean, we gotta we gotta take them to test 183 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: and take them to test publicly. They need to testify 184 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: before committees of Congress and the Assembly and the State 185 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: Senate and and show their work, you know, give us 186 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: the details, give us information, and if not, then we'll 187 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: have to we'll have to do a public records request requests, 188 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: We'll have to take them to court to ask for 189 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: the information. But the public deserves to know where their 190 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: money were, especially when it's being wasted like this. 191 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: Congressman Vince Funk, thank you for coming on and thanks. 192 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: Let us know if you find out more. Yeah, five 193 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty seven Well yeah, I hope. So five 194 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty seven million dollar change order with one 195 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: company because high speed Rail didn't have attack together. 196 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: These are these are not only delay. 197 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: Penalties, but the design of the system has changed that 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: and this is just part of it. It's six billion 199 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: dollars in change orders. We've only spent seventeen billion. They've 200 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: had six hundred change orders here and I forgot what 201 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: he said the full total is for the six billion. 202 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: This is just all right. We got to take a break. 203 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: I have to take a rest. 204 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 205 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 5: six forty. 206 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: All right, So god, we've had quite an hour, right, 207 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: we've had last hour Steve Hilton, the Republican candidate for governor, 208 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: telling us about three hundred and seventy million dollars worth 209 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 2: of marijuana tax money being blown on Democratic voter groups, nonprofits, 210 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: five hundred nonprofits that stole the money or they're spending 211 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: on gitting up the Democratic vote. And then we had 212 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: Vince Fong on the congressman Republican from I think, where's 213 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: you from the Fresno area, and he wants to know 214 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: what's this half billion dollar change order? Half billion dollar 215 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: change order for high speed rail? Mostly because of the 216 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: high speed rail agencies and competence and the delays. Now 217 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: here's another spending story. Never let me ask you this. 218 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: If I gave you a million dollars oh yes, please 219 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: for a bathroom in your house. 220 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: What would you expect a million dollars would buy. 221 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: You in the bathroom? 222 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: Or yes, wow, like marble gold, Yeah, marble. 223 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 4: I would say fourteen care of gold. It would have 224 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: a spat, it would have it would have the best 225 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: of everything. It would be yous, a. 226 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: Bid day, a bod day, something like Trump probably has 227 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: in his u in his Trump Tower home. Well, the 228 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: government here in Los Angeles spent a million dollars and 229 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: they got a two stall bathroom at Runyon Canyon. Matthew 230 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Sedor from Fox eleven has this report, our first look. 231 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 6: At the controversial Runyon Canyon restrooms, two stalls and two 232 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 6: water fountains for almost one million dollars. 233 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: Why did it cost a city million dollars? It's a 234 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of people are wondering. Uh, yeah, I don't really 235 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: like that. 236 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 6: Last summer we were first to expose the city's plan 237 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 6: for the costly commodes, sparking immediate backlash. Here it is, 238 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 6: and this week the bathroom arrived rolled in on a trailer. 239 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 7: I've thought it was absurd from the start, and now 240 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 7: seeing it, it's even more absurd. They wheeled in what 241 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 7: looks like an extra large doghouse. 242 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 6: A local group called the Runyan Canyon Guardians sought estimates 243 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 6: for a similar structure, claiming they found a quote for 244 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 6: about half the price. 245 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: Why would we need a bathroom here because we hike 246 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: here all the time and we've never used Have you 247 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: ever used the bathroom here? 248 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 6: I've used the portapally a couple of times, been in 249 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 6: like that's it works. 250 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: Do you think this bathroom was needed? 251 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 252 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 6: Some hikers though in favor of the project. With roughly 253 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 6: two millillion people using the park every year, I. 254 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: Think it's a fantastic idea. 255 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: I'm in favor of it. If it's regulated, it's monitored. 256 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: Wait stop, stop stop. 257 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm in favor of it. I think it's a great idea. 258 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: It's a million freaking. 259 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: Dollars for two toilets, a million dollars go in the bushes, 260 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: go squat under a tree, a million dollars in tax money, 261 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: and it's prefabricated. They rolled it in what on a flatbed? 262 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: They rolled it in? Oh, I think it's a great idea. Yeah, 263 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: it's a great idea. You pay for it. Get Moron, 264 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: play some. 265 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: More of this. 266 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 4: I'm in favor of it. 267 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: If it's regulated. 268 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 4: It's monitored, and it's kept nice. 269 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: There's porta up there. There's also forests. 270 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 6: In a statement to Fox eleven, councilwoman and mayoral candidate 271 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 6: Nitia Rammins office says, we're excited about this grant funded 272 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 6: westroom facility providing restrooms, this basic park infrastructure that benefits 273 00:13:58,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 6: everyone who visit. 274 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 7: I think that they're really sad that we're making a 275 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 7: big deal about this because I think they just wanted 276 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 7: to quietly do whatever this is tonight. 277 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 6: It's unclear when this bathroom will open, but it looks 278 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 6: pretty close. 279 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: The city spent a million Anitia Ramins attached to it. 280 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: What do you know the woman who will not clear 281 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: homeless encampments in front of an elementary school, even when 282 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: there's gang members selling drugs and guns from the tents. 283 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: She won't do that, But she finds a million dollars 284 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: so people could take a dump in the wild. Yeah, 285 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: you should go out in the forest. And who's gonna 286 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: end up? I bet you two homeless people are gonna 287 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: end up living in there. That's what's gonna happen. Those 288 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: are two apartments. That's affordable housing for these people. I'll 289 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: take a million dollar apartment. 290 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: A million dollars. I mean, I know the. 291 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: Inflation is bad, but when you were a kid, he's 292 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: a dream of having a milli million dollars in what 293 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: you would do with it? And now you just get 294 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: two toilets in the woods. What kind of corruption is that? 295 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: What company is involved in this? Who runs this company? 296 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: Any political donations to Nythia Rahmen, any Nythia Ramen friends 297 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: and relatives connected to this company. You can't spend a 298 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: million dollars on two toilets in the woods. That isn't possible. 299 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: And the thing is this was exposed last year and 300 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: they built it anyway, even after it got bad publicity. 301 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: And then the zombies walking around Resting Canyon. By the way, 302 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: they vote for Nythia Ramen, guaranteed those people voted for her, 303 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: voted for Caravans. 304 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: I just think it's wonderful. What are we up against here? 305 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: All right? We come back, Oh, coming up in the 306 00:15:53,080 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: next half hour. I found a medical story, Debra, and 307 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: about what happens inside your brain when you're sleep deprived. 308 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: Your brain, your brain gets filled with garbage. 309 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: I am so sleep deprived. 310 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: Okay, then you have ridiculous a lot of garbage in 311 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: your brain. 312 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: Yes I do. 313 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: All right, well, i'll tell you all about coming up 314 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: and coming up next. The EV bubble has burst, splattered 315 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: the EV future for vehicles dead at the moment. 316 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: I'll explain it all. 317 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM 318 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: six forty. 319 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: Hey, if you haven't heard, we're moving the show to 320 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: three o'clock starting Tuesday. We'll be on from three until 321 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: six starting Tuesday, February seventeenth. All right, so today and 322 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: Monday is the last one to four show, and then 323 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: three o'clock. Now the schedule is going to look like this. 324 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: From noon to three it's going to be Michael Monks 325 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: and Chris Merrill. Monks and Merrill. I've got it down. 326 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: And then three to six is us and we're all 327 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: moving from three to six. People were worried about you, Deborah. 328 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: They were, yeah, they were, by the way, double on 329 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: with my. 330 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 4: I'm going to be exactly yeah. I'm still on all 331 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: day long. So if you're if you're sick of me, 332 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: you're still going to be sick of me. 333 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna be twice as sick. 334 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: I think we're going to just create your own channel 335 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: and you can sit in your bedroom and just read 336 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: the news like twenty four to seven. 337 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 4: You know what, Maybe I can work from home, John, 338 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: Maybe I'll work from home for now on. 339 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna lay around in your in my. 340 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 4: In my leopard robe and all six o'clock it's going 341 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 4: to be Conway time again. 342 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: From six to ten, Tim Conway moving back to his time. 343 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm moving back to my time. Monks and Merrill joined 344 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: the station. All right, this is the way, this is 345 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: the way it should be. Uh, now, what do we 346 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: have coming up? Oh, in the next segment, I'm going 347 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: to tell Deborah how much garbage there is in her brain. 348 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: And I mean garbage and why biological gards. 349 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 4: Okay, but is there a fix besides getting more sleep, because. 350 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: That's no the fixes you go to sleep. But there 351 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 2: might there might you know, there could be a screw 352 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: loose in there, or a frayed wire. I mean there's 353 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 2: some reason. 354 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 4: Okay, Now you need to tell me something I didn't know. 355 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: But first I want to tell you about this. 356 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: You probably heard yesterday that Trump announced they are bulldozing 357 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: destroying their entire climate change regulation system in Washington, d C. 358 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: I mean, the whole thing is being shut down. No 359 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: more global warming regulations, no more climate change regulations. During 360 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: the Obama years, and they got some kind of well, 361 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: some kind of ruling that greenhouse gases endangered people, and 362 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: so that allowed Obama and then later Joe Biden to 363 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: go hog wild with a tre mendous amount of choking regulations. 364 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: Newsome and Jerry Brown did it here in California. The 365 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: greenhouse gas situation did not change at all, all right. 366 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: The temperatures are still going up very slowly. There is 367 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: no less greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Whatever microscopic difference 368 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: we were trying to achieve was completely overwhelmed by the 369 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 2: Chinese and the Indians. The Chinese and Indians have no 370 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: interest in this global warming nonsense, and they're over like 371 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: two and a quarter billion people, and this is all 372 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 2: stuff we know. So it was silly, futile. And the 373 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: truth is, there wasn't much change in the world, all right. 374 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: The Arctic ice is still there. All the things in 375 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: al Gore's Inconvenient Truth book and movie turned out to 376 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: be false, exaggerated, over hyped nonsense. And finally Trump is 377 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: doing what rational people ought to do. Thrown in the Tonnel. 378 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: It's over. This is BS and so he's shutting down 379 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: all the spending and all the bureaucracy and all the 380 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 2: regulations gone. And coincidentally, this morning, this story came out 381 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal after Trump ended the tax 382 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: subsidy you could get a tax credit for buying an 383 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: electric vehicle. Well, once Trump ended that, the purchase of 384 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: electric vehicles collapsed because they're too expensive. People don't like 385 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 2: most of them wealthy a hole guys like Tesla's. But 386 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: outside of that, nobody liked electric vehicles. And I'll never 387 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 2: understand why this happened. But the major car companies, which 388 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: is General Motors, Ford and Stillantis which owns Chrysler, they 389 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: poured billions, tens of billions of dollars into electric vehicle programs, 390 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: and now they're cutting back drastically. EV sales fell more 391 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: than thirty percent in the fourth quarter because the federal 392 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: tax credit for seventy five hundred dollars expired in September. 393 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 2: So October November December EV sales fall thirty percent. Demand 394 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: for the highest profile evs like Tesla crashed. GM and 395 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: Ford especially has written off billions of dollars in losses. 396 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 2: Stillantis again owns Chrysler. They've had looks like recording this chart. 397 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: Twenty three billion dollars in losses just in the last 398 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: six months, probably about thirty billion total for the year. 399 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: Ford had about nine billion dollar loss in the last 400 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: six months. General Motors lost a couple of billion dollars. 401 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: Ford chief executive Jim Farley says, instead of plowing billions 402 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: into a future knowing these large evs will never make money, 403 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: we are pivoting. 404 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: That is the new cool word. 405 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: By the way, when you've screwed up and you're. 406 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: Changing course, you've pivoted. 407 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: So they just had to write down billions and billions 408 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: of dollars in losses because the sales are being propped 409 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: up by the tax credit. When people found out there's 410 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: no tax credit, it's like, well, I can't afford this. 411 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: In addition to the evs largely being impractical, they never 412 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 2: built many charging stations, and there's no electric grid to 413 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: supply electricity. If everyone switched to evs and you had 414 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: that stupid bozo Gavin Newsom mandating that we all can 415 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: only buy evs, eventually within a ten year period, we'd 416 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: have to buy an EV. I mean in retrospect. That 417 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: really looks just incredibly outrageously idiotic, doesn't it. I mean, 418 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: he is just a dope. When people are left alone, 419 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: most don't buy electric vehicles, and with good reason. I 420 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: don't want to belabor the point. You know what they are. 421 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 2: It never changed, It was never practical unless you were 422 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: really wealthy. And our government decided to give seventy five 423 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: hundred dollars to wealthy people, wealthy guys, so that they 424 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 2: could buy an ev Why don't you do that? 425 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: Why would you? Why would you. 426 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: Give tax money from middle class people and give it 427 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: to wealthy guys so they could buy their toy. They 428 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: could buy that big what's that big stupid Tesla thing? 429 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: Oh? 430 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 4: I hate the way that looks What is that? It 431 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 4: looks like a huge tank era. 432 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it? I forgot the name of that thing, 433 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: the big Tesla tank box. 434 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: I can't believe. 435 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: Oh, the cyber truck, the cyber truck. That's it. Yeah. 436 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: See my brain isn't working, John, it has too much. 437 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: There's biological trash. 438 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 4: I know, that's why couldn't think of a cyber truck. 439 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: So more than twenty billion dollars in previously announced investments 440 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 2: in ev and battery facilities were wiped out last year, 441 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: according to Atlas Public Policy. 442 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: So this era is over. 443 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: And people are gonna go fight Trump in court, but 444 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: that'll take ten years. 445 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: But the thing is dead. It was, it was. 446 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 2: It was all these fanatics trying to control our lives. 447 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: That's all. 448 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 2: This is about a certain elite group that wants to 449 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: control our life and tell us what we're going to drive. 450 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: Taking tax money and giving it to rich guys. Try again, 451 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: come up with a model that's practical, that works just 452 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: as easily as a gas powered car, and get back 453 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: to us when we come back the garbage Endeavor's brain. 454 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 455 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 5: six forty. 456 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: We are moving to the three to six slot come Tuesday, 457 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: so one more one to four pm show on Monday, 458 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: which is a holiday, and then Tuesday, February seventeenth, we're 459 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: on from three to six. 460 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: Michael Monks. 461 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 2: And Chris Merril are going to be on from new 462 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: to three, and then Conway will be on after us 463 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: from six to ten. 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And when 482 00:26:53,640 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: you're asleep, the brain produces a fluid that flushes out toxins, 483 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: cell debris, and junk proteins which builds up all day. 484 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: So notice those words toxins, debris, and proteins. It is 485 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: literally garbage, brain garbage, and the fluid while you sleep 486 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 2: flushes it out. You wake up in the morning and 487 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: like you have clean streets, right, clean sidewalks, all right, 488 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: so the information can flow, your emotions can flow. Because 489 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: if you don't clean out the toxins and the debris 490 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: and the and the junk proteins, then your brain gets 491 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: inflamed and then it doesn't work properly. So you probably 492 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: have a chronically inflamed brain. 493 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 4: Yes, I do. 494 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: Which your body tries, brain tries to compensate during the day, right, 495 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: it couldn't flush out, so. 496 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what do I do? Well, it's doing. 497 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: Right now, it's probably doing this. Did you not sleep 498 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 2: well last night? I did not, Okay, So what it does? 499 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: It tries to make up during the day. It triggers 500 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: pulses of fluid. 501 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: Oh John, this is gross. 502 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So you're getting you're getting fluid pulses. And what 503 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: that does. It coincides with sharp reductions and attention, which 504 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: lasts for a few seconds. So when you zone out 505 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: in the middle of a conversation, yes, or while you're 506 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: working there, that's what happened. You had a fluid pulse. 507 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 4: Okay, Well that makes sense. 508 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: And according to Laura Lewis, one of the researchers, it's 509 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: a sleep like moment. The person is awake, but at 510 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: the same time, there's a brief breakdown of the ability 511 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: to focus on the outside world. And that's when you 512 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: end up staring and you can't and I see you 513 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: on camera the whole show, so I see the I 514 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 2: see the starees. Apparently a brain has two different modes. 515 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: One is being awake and the other is housekeeping. So 516 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: when you go to sleep, the housekeepers, you have a team, 517 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: yes minor legal by the way, and they go through 518 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: I matter, you should put out a help wanted sign. 519 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: I don't know who wants to work in there. It's 520 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: it's a sleep like moment, but it's not actually sleep. 521 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: And the housekeeping mode is incompatible with the awake mode, 522 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: Like you can't do both at once. You can't be 523 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: awake and have them clean out the trash. 524 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 4: What if I close my eyes and take like a 525 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: little nap, a cat nap. 526 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: Well, then I think that allows the fluid. That allows 527 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: the fluid, yeah to flow. See, I feel great after 528 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: a nap. I feel much more refreshed after a nap 529 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: than I do eight hours of sleep. And I guess 530 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, there's a team of emergence workers that come 531 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: in from the nap they. 532 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: Get over time. 533 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: But you don't have that either. 534 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't have any of that. 535 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: You're supposed to, according to the CDC, got seven hours 536 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: of sleep. 537 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 1: That's probably a good week for you. 538 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 4: And that's if I take a gummy or I take 539 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 4: a sleeping pill. 540 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 2: They examined people and they did an MRI scan so 541 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: they could track the movement of the fluid. They actually 542 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: saw this on screen, the fluid rushing around your brain. 543 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: And they also the participants wore a cap that monitored 544 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: their brain activity. Now, people who are sleep deprived have 545 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: slower reactions. They miss visual and auditory cues, so you 546 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: don't respond to what you're seeing or hearing. 547 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: You just sit there zoned. 548 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: I do respond to you often, so that that's no, 549 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: I'm not stoned. I'm not that bad off yet. 550 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 2: The scientists observed a well, this is during the when 551 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: you have your moments, there's a certain surge of cerebrospinal 552 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: fluid in and out of the brain. And while that fluid, 553 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: this is the daytime fluid that tries to make up 554 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: your heart rate and your breathing will slow. You see, 555 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: it's almost like you're dying, right in the middle. 556 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 7: Of the. 557 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: You just suffer a series of brief deaths when you 558 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: don't sleep. They something happens, not just in the brain, 559 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: Lewis said, but in the whole body. They think there's 560 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: one unified circuit that switches us between high attention and 561 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: low attention states, and that circuit is apparently the one 562 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: that's malfunctioning, and that this is bad. 563 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: Because not only I didn't think, not only do. 564 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: You have disruptive, disruptive cognitive function, but you have a 565 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: higher risk of injury, obesity, depression, and neurodegenerative diseases like 566 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. Great in fact, sleep disturbances precede neurodegenerative 567 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: diseases by up to decades. 568 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: So if there's a doctor out there that can come 569 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 4: to my house and give me some propofile but not 570 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: kill me. 571 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: I think Conrad Murray does he still a license? 572 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 4: But you know he Yeah, I don't think it would 573 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 4: be Conrad. Is somebody else that may, you know, need 574 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: to to do it in a healthy way. 575 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what you need is more fluid flushing. 576 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 4: They says, here, Well, thank you, doctor Cobe. 577 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: You need your fluid flush. 578 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 4: I need my fluid flush. Thank you. 579 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: You might be able to take it to a to 580 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: a service station, take it to a mobile station, tell 581 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: the guy, tell the guy you want your fluid flushed, 582 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: and see what he does. All right, work coming up. 583 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: Deborah Mark is live. Well, let's let's see if she 584 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: has any zone out more. 585 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 4: You know what, I need to take a nap, so 586 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 4: maybe I won't do the news if my brain needs 587 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: to regenerate. 588 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: Any fluid pulses. Devormark live in the CAFI twenty for 589 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt 590 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on 591 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty from one to four pm every 592 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, and of course, anytime on demand on 593 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app.