WEBVTT - "Pour"-rit Sutton Another Round! A RHOB Recap with Zack Peter 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.280 King of Reality TV and one of the most sought 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:13.080 after executive producers in reality television with over ten years 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:17.120 of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King, 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.560 we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:25.400 recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:31.360 we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, rain Drops, 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:35.640 on today's episode of Reality with the King, listen, we 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.760 are going to recap what I would like to call 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.400 the best episode this season of The Real Housewats of 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:48.960 Beverly Hills. I have so many thoughts on this episode, 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.000 and knowing you, rain Drops, you are going to be 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:56.120 very surprised by my thoughts and commentary. And of course 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:01.400 I needed another messy person to join me to recap. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:06.160 You all know him for his amazing top rated podcasts 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.440 No Filter Rejact Peter, So. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:13.680 Give it up for Zach Hi rain Drups. How's it going, Zach? 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:14.720 You are like the. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:19.759 Rain fall down and wake my dreams. Let it was show? 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:21.560 Wait it's good? How are you? 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.960 I am doing excellent? First of all, I want to say. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:32.560 I love you on my friends Meghan McCain's podcasts. I 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.880 sent her a text and I said, girl, that was 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.360 one of your best episodes. I loved it so much. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:43.200 You two have great chemistry too. I just I just 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:43.480 love this. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.520 So I'm proud of you. Your podcast is doing very well. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.840 You are, like, first of all, what has been so 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:55.080 wonderful to watch your growth because to see you really 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:59.160 showcase your journalistic skills as it relates to the Blake 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:03.040 Lively and just about Donny Case, Like, I am super 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.680 obsessed with everything going on with that one, and you 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.640 do such a good job in your deep dive. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.960 So rain Drops. If you're obsessed with it, listen to 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.600 his podcast. He's fantastic at the breakdown. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.400 Well, I mean before taping, we were just talking about 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.520 Erica Jane because I just saw her in New York 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.079 over the weekend. And it's really a credit to the 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.280 Girardi legal scandal. That's when I really became like el 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.160 Woods learning how to read legal documents and how to 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.480 access legal documents and in covering that is really what 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.880 kind of gave me this Kim Kardashian itch to dive 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:39.160 more into learning about the law, and I mean, when 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.960 I tell you this is one of the messiest and 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:46.920 pettiest celebrity legal scandals, it is like people are like 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.080 comparing this to Johnny Depp and amberhard which was messy. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.760 But when I tell you the level of petty that 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.079 both of these people are going to in their letters 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.760 to the judge, Like just this week we had Blake Lively, 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:06.120 you know, sarcastically reference a hypothetical of Justin Baldoni having 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.520 five mistresses, and it's just like you're putting this in 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:15.640 your legal filing to the judge, referencing Baldoni's five hypothetical mistresses, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.240 Like It's just it's so like if you love housewives, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.320 like this is the legal drama you're going to be 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:20.880 obsessed with. 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:22.600 Well, this is the reason why I love what I 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.320 do for a living, because when people make these accusations 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.040 and listen, I can only talk about my shows and 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:28.760 it shows I've been a part of. But when people 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.040 make accusations of a reality of script that it is 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:31.440 not real. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:35.120 Nobody behaves this way. I'm always like, people do behave 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:35.560 this way. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.600 And I think when you look at Hollywood, for example, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.600 I think there's been such a a sort of like 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.400 paintbrush over Hollywood in terms of life is very upscale, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.200 very you know, mystique or mysterious. 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:48.520 And it was before social media. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.080 But for example, when Will Smith slaps Chris Rock, things 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.680 happen like that in real life and it doesn't make 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.600 you a bad person. Shit happens this blank and just 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.240 thing to me, what's so interesting is this? I think 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:06.680 is aw petty Personally. I just I'm sort of like, 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.920 why is this warranted? Because I feel like it's a 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.800 lot of I have to clean up my image or 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.200 or whatever the case may be. But based on what 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.240 I've been reading, it doesn't seem like there's anything that 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:19.480 is criminal. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:20.960 Do I have that right? 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.880 No? You know what, it reminds me of the season 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.000 of Real Houses of Beverly Hills when Sutton and Crystal 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.000 were having to go at it and Sutton brought the 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.240 jacket back into Crystal's room and Crystal was like, I 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.520 was violated, Like that's literally what this is. Like we're 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.240 you know, we're and even the ladies were like, Crystal, 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.200 you said the word violated and she came to you, 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.360 but you know, she wasn't even doing anything like That's 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:47.039 exactly the housewife reference, like when you know housewives exaggerate 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:48.719 things or blow things up and then they want to 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.919 double down on their you know, on what they said, 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:57.960 Like it's just it is very housewife reminiscent, and it's it's. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.440 Wild how far they're going with this. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.640 So you have your al Woods meet Kim Kardashian Esquire 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.400 podcast now, which is amazing. We just found out today 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.080 that Karen Huger from the Real Housewives of Potomac was 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:21.560 sentenced to two years in jail one year suspended right, 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:25.120 which means she only gets to serve one year. And 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.640 I read that allegedly, moments after the verdict was read, 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.640 she was taken into custody, which means she was not 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.520 allowed to go home. She's going straight to jail, and 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.679 that allegedly she screamed out, I love you, Ray God, 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.320 has you what can't you say about the KA? 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:43.880 Is there anything you know about this? 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.200 And I think everyone's most important question, are you also 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.520 going to cover down your podcast? 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:49.560 Yeah? 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.360 So I posted about it on social media today. I mean, 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:57.400 I think it was telling when the body cam footage 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.680 came out and I was very skeptical when she was like, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.520 it was very Genshaw right, I'm innocent. I'm going to 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.559 fight on behalf of all the people that can't afford 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.760 an attorney, and I'm going all the way. Like That's 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.440 how Karen Huger was kind of, you know, banging the 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.240 drum that she was innocent in this DUI and she 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:13.960 was going to prove that in court, and obviously a 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.800 jury did not side with her. And then we saw 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.520 all of the body camp footage and we saw how 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.880 bad it really was, and then her team thought that 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.000 this was still a good idea to try to appeal this. 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.880 And it's wild that like they were hoping that she 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:28.920 wasn't going to get the time that she's got. I mean, 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.480 we now have found out that she has had multiple 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.560 DUI's at this point. I mean, we knew of the 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.000 one she had prior what was it, like a back 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.560 in twenty seventeen or maybe even prior to that, but 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.120 we've now learned she's had multiple duy's and. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:46.760 DUIs. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.520 Yeah, I've heard three and I've heard four. I wasn't 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:56.320 sure what the exact number, but yeah, I mean more 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.599 than one, more than two is just is wild that 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:01.919 she's bill you know, was not even wanting to admit 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.919 that she has an alcohol problem. You know, she was 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.119 blaming it on being driven off the road, and then 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.200 you know, it just it's wild how far she was 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.880 willing to take this and how much she was avoiding 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.600 wanting to talk about this on the show. And I mean, 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:21.080 I just, in my very general understanding of the law, 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.600 didn't think that there wasn't anything she couldn't really talk 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.920 about on the show. You know, we saw Erica when 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.080 she was going through her legal drama. She was very 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.520 you know, as transparent as she could be on Beverly Hills. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.160 But I mean, Karen, I really think she thought she 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:36.640 was going to get a slap on the rest. And 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.720 I think that that just is true housewife delusion because 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.840 this was a really bad case with her. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:47.880 Being sentenced to one year serving serving one year in prison. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:49.520 I'm sorry, jail. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.080 I want to make sure that I say the right 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:56.360 things heart getting serving one year in jail. The judge 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.600 allegedly did say, because I've read some you know, some 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:00.440 reports who. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.440 Were there there, they were tweeting about it. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.440 So allegedly the judge said that Karen has thirty days 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.520 from today to appial, and that she also has ninety 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.680 days to convince the judge of. 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:16.560 A lower sentence. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.800 Do you think Karen should have pilled this number one 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.400 and number two? Do you think she will serve the 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.000 full year or we should get out earlier because of 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:27.920 good behavior. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.320 She'll likely get out earlier. I don't predict that she'll 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.199 serve the full year. I mean, we haven't seen any 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.280 housewife that's gone to prison serve their full time. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:36.280 Teresa got out early. 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.480 Jenshaw keeps getting time knocked off, which is funny because 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.640 I actually had a prison consultant on my podcast and 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.520 I had him on the podcast during Genshaw leading up 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.840 to her trial or actually shouldn't make it to try, 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.480 but leading up to her hearing, and I was like, 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.080 what do you think Genshaw should do to get no 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.040 time or reduce time or whatever. He gave me this 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.560 whole strategy, And it's funny because she ended up hiring 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.840 him after that interview aired, and she has since implemented 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.600 pieces of his strategy. And look at she's getting time 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.120 knocked off left and right. She's going to be out 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.560 of prison by the end of next year if she 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.480 doesn't get even more time knocked off. So we've seen 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.959 you know, housewives know how to play the game as 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.040 long as they can at least take some accountability. So 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.160 I predict that Karen can get out sooner. One thing 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.800 that she has working against her is her ego and 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.640 her ability to take accountability. You know, we even see 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.199 that she's like, uh, the reason I was so distraught 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.160 is because I lost my parents, And it's like you've 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.480 lost your parents how many years ago? Now, Like not 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.120 to diminish grief in any way, but you can't say that. 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.560 You know, she was feeling sad that her mom passed 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.840 away and Mother's Day was coming up. When this happened, 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.920 what in March and Mother's Days in May? Like it 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.600 just the timeline wasn't adding up. So I don't think 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:51.600 she'll serve the full time. And what was the other question, Oh, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.400 do I think she should appeal it? No, she should 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.360 not appeal it. She should absolutely just at this point 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.839 show the judge that she's willing to right or wrong. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.200 We now have found out that she wasn't really in 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.440 a rehab facility. It was more of a It was 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.520 a rehabilitation center, but it appears to be more of 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.360 like a Rachel Levis SPA style rather than it was 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.079 like an alcohol treatment program. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.600 So explained to me the difference. 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.800 I didn't know this, Zach, and that's why I'm HAPPI 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:24.120 you're on today. What is the difference between So she 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.440 did not go to recovery center to where they help 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.400 you with alcoholism AA meetings, you know, multiple times a day, 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.599 giving you medic giving you some sort of pale to detox, 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.240 and none of that was this. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.920 She went to what exactly I. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.840 Mean, it seems like my understanding of the facility that 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.360 she was at, it was a very cushy posh you know, 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.719 more of a spot like similar to Shannon Badoor right 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.120 when she went and she did her program, but I 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.880 think she did an outpatient program actually, whereas Karen went 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.000 into an actual facility. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:59.640 There was some form of detox that she did. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.160 Do because she wasn't taking her antidepressants, and she tried 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.720 to reference that in court as well to get time 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:05.199 knocked off. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:06.440 I mean, she was using every excuse. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.199 She was, even having Rey go on the stand and 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.840 you know and talk about her good character and her 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.880 good faith. But so yeah, it seems that it wasn't 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.200 like an actual alcohol treatment program that she was in. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:22.320 It was likely some sort of cushy therapy facility like 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.480 a SPA that she was in to focus on her 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.960 mental health, very similar to like Shannon Badoor, Karen. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.640 Our thoughts in person with you just as being human beings, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:36.200 and you know this. This is something that when I 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:40.400 saw the verdict, my moth was on the floor, and 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.559 I think at this point, you know, my hope for 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.880 Karen is that she's able to in any. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.240 Situation in life, the hope that you learn from it. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.840 So my hope in prayer for Karen is to learn 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.880 from this and when things happen to us is to 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:55.720 make us better people. 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.040 So I wanted to say that. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.120 So my thoughts and prayers are with you, Karen, and 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.080 just like my thoughts and prayers are with Dured's wallet, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:11.680 because I have never in my life seen someone's wallet 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.200 get read. For Philip and Zacharie, if I'm able to 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.920 call you that, my love, I want you to hear 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.120 this straight from me, And I'm being very honest here. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:26.959 This was Something's best episode in the history of her appearance, 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:36.400 and I, Carlos King, am now a Sluton. I oh, listen, 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.480 y'all can talk about me. I'm working a Caftan because 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:44.040 of its sudden I diget the memo. I am vegan, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.640 so I can't eat Cavard behind me. I got some 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.360 kinwa waiting for me after I rap this up with 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:54.880 zach So I my thing is this, They say, I 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.960 phone eye, bitch, wallet for a wallet. I was here 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.439 for some and I know there's people who may disagree, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.280 and that's fine. I am not watching house Watch to 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:08.560 see these women in World Hunger. I want, I think 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.000 this show to see these girls say you play. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:12.199 With me. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.720 With this mouse, I will be erect. I personally love 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:24.320 something Ston. You deserve four more seasons based on the 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:28.960 fact that you did not let up on Dery. Zachary, Honey, 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:30.160 let's talk about it. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.800 I mean, I will agree with you that this was 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.560 her best episode, because this is the first time we 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.800 saw something really in you know, the gladiator sued in 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.680 the arena. Normally, she and Garcel run for the hills. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.000 They love to throw jabs and poke at other people, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.120 but when it comes to the heat being turned on them, 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.040 it's like, oh my god, I'm the victim and the 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:52.559 tears and I have to run and I have to leave, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.080 and oh my god, you're you know, you're attacking me 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.959 and all of that stuff, right, like just their classic playbook, 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.240 and Ston is normally you know, her little birth legs 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.800 are normally rattling, and she's ready to fly away, and 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.319 like and unlike a bird, she did not fly away. 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.200 She stood at this table and she gave it to 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.240 Derey And I'm glad that we finally see her get 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.800 into the mix and and stand her ground without you know, 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.160 crumbling in front of our eyes. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:18.880 I mean, was it. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.760 I think the audience is like mad at her because 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:25.480 it was very like like as Countess Lewenne would say, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.560 money can't buy you class and certainly does not have 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:33.040 class and or self awareness at all. But you know, 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.320 I so I understand why people are like she's terrible. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.720 I'm like, I've known that she was, you know, as 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.440 this tone death since the beginning. I liked her in 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.480 season one, and I saw her first season and I 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.600 saw the potential in there, and then she kind of 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.920 like ended up just pandering to the audience a little 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:51.000 too much of the last several seasons. And now you 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.160 see that she's not like she lost that awareness of 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.280 what Twitter is going to say, and she was just 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.120 in the game. You know, and it's like this is 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.040 when the housewive shine, Like when you stop thinking about 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.800 what your perception of the audience is going to think 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.720 of you, then you just be your authentic self. And 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.440 that's why I think dere It's having her moment this 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:14.400 season is because she's finally just taking the gloves off 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.720 and she's getting scrappy. And that's my favorite Dery is 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.440 when she's scrappy. So I thought this was a great 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.840 episode this season, and I think something's rightfully getting, you know, 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.720 her butt handed to her, because you know, she coasted 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.640 for so many seasons poking at everybody else, and now 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.200 she's finally in the hot seat and she's having to 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:32.640 take it. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.160 Yeah. And and I mean, listen a group with everything 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.000 you said. I have said for years, Zach that I 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:45.320 missed olderite. But unfortunately some of these reality stars pander 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.880 to the audience, right Sutton I felt her first season 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.200 when she told Teddy Mellicamp was by the way Thawton 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:56.920 press of Teddy Mellcamp who just had surgery as well. Well, 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.800 She sold Teddy, I thought you were boring and by 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:04.040 and my god, you're also pregnant, like not the nicest 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:08.280 thing to say, but that's her honesty, right, And I 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.000 felt like after that sudden in my opinion and Zach's too. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.120 She panned her to the audience, and I just I 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:20.600 didn't find her that interesting. There is something going onween 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.320 her and Dery. And I said this to my podcast 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.040 weeks ago, and similarly to you, Zach, when when you 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:31.600 and I have an opinion that isn't popular, we get 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:38.360 negative comments right, but weeks or maybe months later, you 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.880 and I always turn out to be right. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:45.520 And I said this from day one. I said, Sutton looks. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.880 Down on Dereit because Deri is not the type of 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.320 woman she believes deserves to be in this group, because she, 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.160 in her mind thinks Dery is poor. The fact that 0:16:55.280 --> 0:17:00.160 Zach she called her poor ret did you? 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:06.439 I mean, like the gloves are off? So is she is? Well? 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:10.359 Let me ask you this psychologically. Is it that she's 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.520 forgetting the cameras are on? Or is she like, I 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:17.640 don't give a fuck about me, visc errating Derete when 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.520 she told the producer in her interview chair, I said it, 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.440 and I don't regret it, and I'll say it again. 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.960 So is it that she just hates Dereat that much 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.800 that she's only going to give that to Derey and 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:33.040 not anyone else. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.880 No, So I saw this coming into the season with 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.439 both Sutton and Garcal because I've noticed the patterns they 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.760 usually turn on whoever they think the audience is going 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.400 to dislike. But as you know, Carlos, when you're filming 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.240 the show, when you're filming it and when it airs 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.879 and how the audience receives it very different. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.600 So whatever you're reading in the moment. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.199 Is not necessarily how it's going to play when it airs, right, 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:56.560 because you don't know what that edit's going to be, 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.040 you know other people are saying in their confessionals, And 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.560 also you're your level of awareness is just it's tunnel vision. 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.200 You only see it through your lens. You don't see 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.560 it objectively. And so I think that they, you know, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.679 Sutton was very much going to comfort Deret this season. 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:12.960 I think that they thought the audience was not going 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.439 to like Dereit, and I don't think that they expected 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.879 the audience to just rave for Dereit the way that 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.000 everybody's kind of rallying for her, because for the last 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.080 couple of seasons, people have been calling for Durit to 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.320 be fired. So I think they thought this was going 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.600 to be Durret's takedown season, whereas it's the complete opposite. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:29.959 So I think that they've you know, been coming at 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.680 Dured and taking these jabs that heard this season for 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.960 that reason. And I think that that's why she's kicking 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.960 Durit so hard right now. One I think she really 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.439 does not like her. And two, I just think, I mean, 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.359 we've seen someting do this before. She did it with 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.320 Erica when she was going through her legal drama. She 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:46.840 did it with Kyle when she was going through her 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.240 marital issues. Like it kind of just seems to be 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.760 Sutton's pattern. So I think Sutton's just being Sutton. And 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.399 you know, but it's it's interesting to see the audience 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.240 kind of turn on her a bit in this, But no, 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.359 I definitely think she's hyper aware. 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.280 I just think she misread this season. 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.760 I agree with you one thousand percent. I think the 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.320 cast I think, and I'm a god on a limb. 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:13.040 I think all of them except Bose thought the audience 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.119 hates to read She's an easy target. Yeah, there's always 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.679 I'm sorry Bows and Erica. I think the rest of 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.879 them thought, let's let's poke at de Red. 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:25.960 The audience hates her, they don't like her. 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.600 She's not a fan favorite, and we're able to use 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:33.080 her to be the main storyline and the opposite occur, 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.320 and I think they're all watching this backgagging. I think 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:41.680 when it comes to Sutton, she was on fire this 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:46.040 episode because in my opinion, and Zach, you live in 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:50.360 California and obviously you've been around women from all walks. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.600 Of life similar to me. 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.560 I feel like Sutton truly represents rich white women in 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.680 Beverly Hills, now, all of them, if I get read, 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:01.639 I'm not saying all of them. 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:02.800 I'm not saying one hundred percent. 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:07.800 I think the majority of wealthy white women and Beverly 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:13.400 Hills feel a certain way about a woman who may 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:17.320 not have as much as them being in their circle. 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:18.160 Right. 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:24.919 I think Sutton represents that zip code. I think Sutton 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:30.440 is a great housewife now because she represents that when 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:34.720 Fave Residant to Brandy Glanville, no matter how many chanels 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:38.800 you borrow, you will never ever be lady. First of 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:44.520 all clocked it and number two, fave Resnik best friend 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:49.000 is Chris Jenner and Kathy Hilton. So she's around these 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.719 wealthy women, And the reason why I will always have 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:56.000 a different view than maybe the audience is because. 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:57.520 I'm not here to pick favorites. I'm here to be fair. 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.280 Yeah, I don't watch the show again to see women 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:04.480