Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the
Speaker 1: King of Reality TV and one of the most sought
Speaker 1: after executive producers in reality television with over ten years
Speaker 1: of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,
Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,
Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that
Speaker 1: we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, rain Drops,
Speaker 1: on today's episode of Reality with the King, listen, we
Speaker 1: are going to recap what I would like to call
Speaker 1: the best episode this season of The Real Housewats of
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. I have so many thoughts on this episode,
Speaker 1: and knowing you, rain Drops, you are going to be
Speaker 1: very surprised by my thoughts and commentary. And of course
Speaker 1: I needed another messy person to join me to recap.
Speaker 1: You all know him for his amazing top rated podcasts
Speaker 1: No Filter Rejact Peter, So.
Speaker 2: Give it up for Zach Hi rain Drups. How's it going, Zach?
Speaker 2: You are like the.
Speaker 3: Rain fall down and wake my dreams. Let it was show?
Speaker 3: Wait it's good? How are you?
Speaker 2: I am doing excellent? First of all, I want to say.
Speaker 1: I love you on my friends Meghan McCain's podcasts. I
Speaker 1: sent her a text and I said, girl, that was
Speaker 1: one of your best episodes. I loved it so much.
Speaker 1: You two have great chemistry too. I just I just
Speaker 1: love this.
Speaker 2: So I'm proud of you. Your podcast is doing very well.
Speaker 1: You are, like, first of all, what has been so
Speaker 1: wonderful to watch your growth because to see you really
Speaker 1: showcase your journalistic skills as it relates to the Blake
Speaker 1: Lively and just about Donny Case, Like, I am super
Speaker 1: obsessed with everything going on with that one, and you
Speaker 1: do such a good job in your deep dive.
Speaker 2: So rain Drops. If you're obsessed with it, listen to
Speaker 2: his podcast. He's fantastic at the breakdown.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean before taping, we were just talking about
Speaker 3: Erica Jane because I just saw her in New York
Speaker 3: over the weekend. And it's really a credit to the
Speaker 3: Girardi legal scandal. That's when I really became like el
Speaker 3: Woods learning how to read legal documents and how to
Speaker 3: access legal documents and in covering that is really what
Speaker 3: kind of gave me this Kim Kardashian itch to dive
Speaker 3: more into learning about the law, and I mean, when
Speaker 3: I tell you this is one of the messiest and
Speaker 3: pettiest celebrity legal scandals, it is like people are like
Speaker 3: comparing this to Johnny Depp and amberhard which was messy.
Speaker 3: But when I tell you the level of petty that
Speaker 3: both of these people are going to in their letters
Speaker 3: to the judge, Like just this week we had Blake Lively,
Speaker 3: you know, sarcastically reference a hypothetical of Justin Baldoni having
Speaker 3: five mistresses, and it's just like you're putting this in
Speaker 3: your legal filing to the judge, referencing Baldoni's five hypothetical mistresses,
Speaker 3: Like It's just it's so like if you love housewives,
Speaker 3: like this is the legal drama you're going to be
Speaker 3: obsessed with.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the reason why I love what I
Speaker 1: do for a living, because when people make these accusations
Speaker 1: and listen, I can only talk about my shows and
Speaker 1: it shows I've been a part of. But when people
Speaker 1: make accusations of a reality of script that it is
Speaker 1: not real.
Speaker 2: Nobody behaves this way. I'm always like, people do behave
Speaker 2: this way.
Speaker 1: And I think when you look at Hollywood, for example,
Speaker 1: I think there's been such a a sort of like
Speaker 1: paintbrush over Hollywood in terms of life is very upscale,
Speaker 1: very you know, mystique or mysterious.
Speaker 2: And it was before social media.
Speaker 1: But for example, when Will Smith slaps Chris Rock, things
Speaker 1: happen like that in real life and it doesn't make
Speaker 1: you a bad person. Shit happens this blank and just
Speaker 1: thing to me, what's so interesting is this? I think
Speaker 1: is aw petty Personally. I just I'm sort of like,
Speaker 1: why is this warranted? Because I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: lot of I have to clean up my image or
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. But based on what
Speaker 1: I've been reading, it doesn't seem like there's anything that
Speaker 1: is criminal.
Speaker 2: Do I have that right?
Speaker 3: No? You know what, it reminds me of the season
Speaker 3: of Real Houses of Beverly Hills when Sutton and Crystal
Speaker 3: were having to go at it and Sutton brought the
Speaker 3: jacket back into Crystal's room and Crystal was like, I
Speaker 3: was violated, Like that's literally what this is. Like we're
Speaker 3: you know, we're and even the ladies were like, Crystal,
Speaker 3: you said the word violated and she came to you,
Speaker 3: but you know, she wasn't even doing anything like That's
Speaker 3: exactly the housewife reference, like when you know housewives exaggerate
Speaker 3: things or blow things up and then they want to
Speaker 3: double down on their you know, on what they said,
Speaker 3: Like it's just it is very housewife reminiscent, and it's it's.
Speaker 2: Wild how far they're going with this.
Speaker 1: So you have your al Woods meet Kim Kardashian Esquire
Speaker 1: podcast now, which is amazing. We just found out today
Speaker 1: that Karen Huger from the Real Housewives of Potomac was
Speaker 1: sentenced to two years in jail one year suspended right,
Speaker 1: which means she only gets to serve one year. And
Speaker 1: I read that allegedly, moments after the verdict was read,
Speaker 1: she was taken into custody, which means she was not
Speaker 1: allowed to go home. She's going straight to jail, and
Speaker 1: that allegedly she screamed out, I love you, Ray God,
Speaker 1: has you what can't you say about the KA?
Speaker 2: Is there anything you know about this?
Speaker 1: And I think everyone's most important question, are you also
Speaker 1: going to cover down your podcast?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I posted about it on social media today. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think it was telling when the body cam footage
Speaker 3: came out and I was very skeptical when she was like,
Speaker 3: it was very Genshaw right, I'm innocent. I'm going to
Speaker 3: fight on behalf of all the people that can't afford
Speaker 3: an attorney, and I'm going all the way. Like That's
Speaker 3: how Karen Huger was kind of, you know, banging the
Speaker 3: drum that she was innocent in this DUI and she
Speaker 3: was going to prove that in court, and obviously a
Speaker 3: jury did not side with her. And then we saw
Speaker 3: all of the body camp footage and we saw how
Speaker 3: bad it really was, and then her team thought that
Speaker 3: this was still a good idea to try to appeal this.
Speaker 3: And it's wild that like they were hoping that she
Speaker 3: wasn't going to get the time that she's got. I mean,
Speaker 3: we now have found out that she has had multiple
Speaker 3: DUI's at this point. I mean, we knew of the
Speaker 3: one she had prior what was it, like a back
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen or maybe even prior to that, but
Speaker 3: we've now learned she's had multiple duy's and.
Speaker 2: DUIs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard three and I've heard four. I wasn't
Speaker 3: sure what the exact number, but yeah, I mean more
Speaker 3: than one, more than two is just is wild that
Speaker 3: she's bill you know, was not even wanting to admit
Speaker 3: that she has an alcohol problem. You know, she was
Speaker 3: blaming it on being driven off the road, and then
Speaker 3: you know, it just it's wild how far she was
Speaker 3: willing to take this and how much she was avoiding
Speaker 3: wanting to talk about this on the show. And I mean,
Speaker 3: I just, in my very general understanding of the law,
Speaker 3: didn't think that there wasn't anything she couldn't really talk
Speaker 3: about on the show. You know, we saw Erica when
Speaker 3: she was going through her legal drama. She was very
Speaker 3: you know, as transparent as she could be on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: But I mean, Karen, I really think she thought she
Speaker 3: was going to get a slap on the rest. And
Speaker 3: I think that that just is true housewife delusion because
Speaker 3: this was a really bad case with her.
Speaker 1: Being sentenced to one year serving serving one year in prison.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, jail.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I say the right
Speaker 1: things heart getting serving one year in jail. The judge
Speaker 1: allegedly did say, because I've read some you know, some
Speaker 1: reports who.
Speaker 2: Were there there, they were tweeting about it.
Speaker 1: So allegedly the judge said that Karen has thirty days
Speaker 1: from today to appial, and that she also has ninety
Speaker 1: days to convince the judge of.
Speaker 2: A lower sentence.
Speaker 1: Do you think Karen should have pilled this number one
Speaker 1: and number two? Do you think she will serve the
Speaker 1: full year or we should get out earlier because of
Speaker 1: good behavior.
Speaker 3: She'll likely get out earlier. I don't predict that she'll
Speaker 3: serve the full year. I mean, we haven't seen any
Speaker 3: housewife that's gone to prison serve their full time.
Speaker 2: Teresa got out early.
Speaker 3: Jenshaw keeps getting time knocked off, which is funny because
Speaker 3: I actually had a prison consultant on my podcast and
Speaker 3: I had him on the podcast during Genshaw leading up
Speaker 3: to her trial or actually shouldn't make it to try,
Speaker 3: but leading up to her hearing, and I was like,
Speaker 3: what do you think Genshaw should do to get no
Speaker 3: time or reduce time or whatever. He gave me this
Speaker 3: whole strategy, And it's funny because she ended up hiring
Speaker 3: him after that interview aired, and she has since implemented
Speaker 3: pieces of his strategy. And look at she's getting time
Speaker 3: knocked off left and right. She's going to be out
Speaker 3: of prison by the end of next year if she
Speaker 3: doesn't get even more time knocked off. So we've seen
Speaker 3: you know, housewives know how to play the game as
Speaker 3: long as they can at least take some accountability. So
Speaker 3: I predict that Karen can get out sooner. One thing
Speaker 3: that she has working against her is her ego and
Speaker 3: her ability to take accountability. You know, we even see
Speaker 3: that she's like, uh, the reason I was so distraught
Speaker 3: is because I lost my parents, And it's like you've
Speaker 3: lost your parents how many years ago? Now, Like not
Speaker 3: to diminish grief in any way, but you can't say that.
Speaker 3: You know, she was feeling sad that her mom passed
Speaker 3: away and Mother's Day was coming up. When this happened,
Speaker 3: what in March and Mother's Days in May? Like it
Speaker 3: just the timeline wasn't adding up. So I don't think
Speaker 3: she'll serve the full time. And what was the other question, Oh,
Speaker 3: do I think she should appeal it? No, she should
Speaker 3: not appeal it. She should absolutely just at this point
Speaker 3: show the judge that she's willing to right or wrong.
Speaker 3: We now have found out that she wasn't really in
Speaker 3: a rehab facility. It was more of a It was
Speaker 3: a rehabilitation center, but it appears to be more of
Speaker 3: like a Rachel Levis SPA style rather than it was
Speaker 3: like an alcohol treatment program.
Speaker 2: So explained to me the difference.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this, Zach, and that's why I'm HAPPI
Speaker 1: you're on today. What is the difference between So she
Speaker 1: did not go to recovery center to where they help
Speaker 1: you with alcoholism AA meetings, you know, multiple times a day,
Speaker 1: giving you medic giving you some sort of pale to detox,
Speaker 1: and none of that was this.
Speaker 2: She went to what exactly I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it seems like my understanding of the facility that
Speaker 3: she was at, it was a very cushy posh you know,
Speaker 3: more of a spot like similar to Shannon Badoor right
Speaker 3: when she went and she did her program, but I
Speaker 3: think she did an outpatient program actually, whereas Karen went
Speaker 3: into an actual facility.
Speaker 2: There was some form of detox that she did.
Speaker 3: Do because she wasn't taking her antidepressants, and she tried
Speaker 3: to reference that in court as well to get time
Speaker 3: knocked off.
Speaker 2: I mean, she was using every excuse.
Speaker 3: She was, even having Rey go on the stand and
Speaker 3: you know and talk about her good character and her
Speaker 3: good faith. But so yeah, it seems that it wasn't
Speaker 3: like an actual alcohol treatment program that she was in.
Speaker 3: It was likely some sort of cushy therapy facility like
Speaker 3: a SPA that she was in to focus on her
Speaker 3: mental health, very similar to like Shannon Badoor, Karen.
Speaker 1: Our thoughts in person with you just as being human beings,
Speaker 1: and you know this. This is something that when I
Speaker 1: saw the verdict, my moth was on the floor, and
Speaker 1: I think at this point, you know, my hope for
Speaker 1: Karen is that she's able to in any.
Speaker 2: Situation in life, the hope that you learn from it.
Speaker 1: So my hope in prayer for Karen is to learn
Speaker 1: from this and when things happen to us is to
Speaker 1: make us better people.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to say that.
Speaker 1: So my thoughts and prayers are with you, Karen, and
Speaker 1: just like my thoughts and prayers are with Dured's wallet,
Speaker 1: because I have never in my life seen someone's wallet
Speaker 1: get read. For Philip and Zacharie, if I'm able to
Speaker 1: call you that, my love, I want you to hear
Speaker 1: this straight from me, And I'm being very honest here.
Speaker 1: This was Something's best episode in the history of her appearance,
Speaker 1: and I, Carlos King, am now a Sluton. I oh, listen,
Speaker 1: y'all can talk about me. I'm working a Caftan because
Speaker 1: of its sudden I diget the memo. I am vegan,
Speaker 1: so I can't eat Cavard behind me. I got some
Speaker 1: kinwa waiting for me after I rap this up with
Speaker 1: zach So I my thing is this, They say, I
Speaker 1: phone eye, bitch, wallet for a wallet. I was here
Speaker 1: for some and I know there's people who may disagree,
Speaker 1: and that's fine. I am not watching house Watch to
Speaker 1: see these women in World Hunger. I want, I think
Speaker 1: this show to see these girls say you play.
Speaker 2: With me.
Speaker 1: With this mouse, I will be erect. I personally love
Speaker 1: something Ston. You deserve four more seasons based on the
Speaker 1: fact that you did not let up on Dery. Zachary, Honey,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I will agree with you that this was
Speaker 3: her best episode, because this is the first time we
Speaker 3: saw something really in you know, the gladiator sued in
Speaker 3: the arena. Normally, she and Garcel run for the hills.
Speaker 3: They love to throw jabs and poke at other people,
Speaker 3: but when it comes to the heat being turned on them,
Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, I'm the victim and the
Speaker 3: tears and I have to run and I have to leave,
Speaker 3: and oh my god, you're you know, you're attacking me
Speaker 3: and all of that stuff, right, like just their classic playbook,
Speaker 3: and Ston is normally you know, her little birth legs
Speaker 3: are normally rattling, and she's ready to fly away, and
Speaker 3: like and unlike a bird, she did not fly away.
Speaker 3: She stood at this table and she gave it to
Speaker 3: Derey And I'm glad that we finally see her get
Speaker 3: into the mix and and stand her ground without you know,
Speaker 3: crumbling in front of our eyes.
Speaker 2: I mean, was it.
Speaker 3: I think the audience is like mad at her because
Speaker 3: it was very like like as Countess Lewenne would say,
Speaker 3: money can't buy you class and certainly does not have
Speaker 3: class and or self awareness at all. But you know,
Speaker 3: I so I understand why people are like she's terrible.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I've known that she was, you know, as
Speaker 3: this tone death since the beginning. I liked her in
Speaker 3: season one, and I saw her first season and I
Speaker 3: saw the potential in there, and then she kind of
Speaker 3: like ended up just pandering to the audience a little
Speaker 3: too much of the last several seasons. And now you
Speaker 3: see that she's not like she lost that awareness of
Speaker 3: what Twitter is going to say, and she was just
Speaker 3: in the game. You know, and it's like this is
Speaker 3: when the housewive shine, Like when you stop thinking about
Speaker 3: what your perception of the audience is going to think
Speaker 3: of you, then you just be your authentic self. And
Speaker 3: that's why I think dere It's having her moment this
Speaker 3: season is because she's finally just taking the gloves off
Speaker 3: and she's getting scrappy. And that's my favorite Dery is
Speaker 3: when she's scrappy. So I thought this was a great
Speaker 3: episode this season, and I think something's rightfully getting, you know,
Speaker 3: her butt handed to her, because you know, she coasted
Speaker 3: for so many seasons poking at everybody else, and now
Speaker 3: she's finally in the hot seat and she's having to
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And and I mean, listen a group with everything
Speaker 1: you said. I have said for years, Zach that I
Speaker 1: missed olderite. But unfortunately some of these reality stars pander
Speaker 1: to the audience, right Sutton I felt her first season
Speaker 1: when she told Teddy Mellicamp was by the way Thawton
Speaker 1: press of Teddy Mellcamp who just had surgery as well. Well,
Speaker 1: She sold Teddy, I thought you were boring and by
Speaker 1: and my god, you're also pregnant, like not the nicest
Speaker 1: thing to say, but that's her honesty, right, And I
Speaker 1: felt like after that sudden in my opinion and Zach's too.
Speaker 1: She panned her to the audience, and I just I
Speaker 1: didn't find her that interesting. There is something going onween
Speaker 1: her and Dery. And I said this to my podcast
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and similarly to you, Zach, when when you
Speaker 1: and I have an opinion that isn't popular, we get
Speaker 1: negative comments right, but weeks or maybe months later, you
Speaker 1: and I always turn out to be right.
Speaker 2: And I said this from day one. I said, Sutton looks.
Speaker 1: Down on Dereit because Deri is not the type of
Speaker 1: woman she believes deserves to be in this group, because she,
Speaker 1: in her mind thinks Dery is poor. The fact that
Speaker 1: Zach she called her poor ret did you?
Speaker 2: I mean, like the gloves are off? So is she is? Well?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this psychologically. Is it that she's
Speaker 1: forgetting the cameras are on? Or is she like, I
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about me, visc errating Derete when
Speaker 1: she told the producer in her interview chair, I said it,
Speaker 1: and I don't regret it, and I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: So is it that she just hates Dereat that much
Speaker 1: that she's only going to give that to Derey and
Speaker 1: not anyone else.
Speaker 3: No, So I saw this coming into the season with
Speaker 3: both Sutton and Garcal because I've noticed the patterns they
Speaker 3: usually turn on whoever they think the audience is going
Speaker 3: to dislike. But as you know, Carlos, when you're filming
Speaker 3: the show, when you're filming it and when it airs
Speaker 3: and how the audience receives it very different.
Speaker 2: So whatever you're reading in the moment.
Speaker 3: Is not necessarily how it's going to play when it airs, right,
Speaker 3: because you don't know what that edit's going to be,
Speaker 3: you know other people are saying in their confessionals, And
Speaker 3: also you're your level of awareness is just it's tunnel vision.
Speaker 3: You only see it through your lens. You don't see
Speaker 3: it objectively. And so I think that they, you know,
Speaker 3: Sutton was very much going to comfort Deret this season.
Speaker 3: I think that they thought the audience was not going
Speaker 3: to like Dereit, and I don't think that they expected
Speaker 3: the audience to just rave for Dereit the way that
Speaker 3: everybody's kind of rallying for her, because for the last
Speaker 3: couple of seasons, people have been calling for Durit to
Speaker 3: be fired. So I think they thought this was going
Speaker 3: to be Durret's takedown season, whereas it's the complete opposite.
Speaker 3: So I think that they've you know, been coming at
Speaker 3: Dured and taking these jabs that heard this season for
Speaker 3: that reason. And I think that that's why she's kicking
Speaker 3: Durit so hard right now. One I think she really
Speaker 3: does not like her. And two, I just think, I mean,
Speaker 3: we've seen someting do this before. She did it with
Speaker 3: Erica when she was going through her legal drama. She
Speaker 3: did it with Kyle when she was going through her
Speaker 3: marital issues. Like it kind of just seems to be
Speaker 3: Sutton's pattern. So I think Sutton's just being Sutton. And
Speaker 3: you know, but it's it's interesting to see the audience
Speaker 3: kind of turn on her a bit in this, But no,
Speaker 3: I definitely think she's hyper aware.
Speaker 2: I just think she misread this season.
Speaker 1: I agree with you one thousand percent. I think the
Speaker 1: cast I think, and I'm a god on a limb.
Speaker 1: I think all of them except Bose thought the audience
Speaker 1: hates to read She's an easy target. Yeah, there's always
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Bows and Erica. I think the rest of
Speaker 1: them thought, let's let's poke at de Red.
Speaker 2: The audience hates her, they don't like her.
Speaker 1: She's not a fan favorite, and we're able to use
Speaker 1: her to be the main storyline and the opposite occur,
Speaker 1: and I think they're all watching this backgagging. I think
Speaker 1: when it comes to Sutton, she was on fire this
Speaker 1: episode because in my opinion, and Zach, you live in
Speaker 1: California and obviously you've been around women from all walks.
Speaker 2: Of life similar to me.
Speaker 1: I feel like Sutton truly represents rich white women in
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, now, all of them, if I get read,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying all of them.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I think the majority of wealthy white women and Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills feel a certain way about a woman who may
Speaker 1: not have as much as them being in their circle.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I think Sutton represents that zip code. I think Sutton
Speaker 1: is a great housewife now because she represents that when
Speaker 1: Fave Residant to Brandy Glanville, no matter how many chanels
Speaker 1: you borrow, you will never ever be lady. First of
Speaker 1: all clocked it and number two, fave Resnik best friend
Speaker 1: is Chris Jenner and Kathy Hilton. So she's around these
Speaker 1: wealthy women, And the reason why I will always have
Speaker 1: a different view than maybe the audience is because.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to pick favorites. I'm here to be fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't watch the show again to see women
Speaker 1: behave nicely because they're afraid of getting canceled. As long
Speaker 1: as you are yourself and your truth, you're gonna win
Speaker 1: in the end. And I may be the minority in
Speaker 1: the situation. Sutton was herself this episode. Sometton's constant not
Speaker 1: just one dig Zach, her constant dig at dere poor
Speaker 1: read her wallet. When when Kyle said, well, maybe you
Speaker 1: know Dey can offer you something. I don't need nothing
Speaker 1: from her, she can offer me anything, it was like
Speaker 1: these constant digs of like this woman is not on
Speaker 1: my level and I don't want her around me. That's
Speaker 1: the reason why I thought this episode was super fascinating
Speaker 1: because only in Beverly Hills, in my opinion, are these
Speaker 1: types of conversations allowed to happen. And that's why Erica
Speaker 1: Jane clocked it and kept asking, like, so you think
Speaker 1: you're better than her?
Speaker 2: What does money have to do with it? Because Erica
Speaker 2: also gets it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, child, We are just getting started.
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 2: I mean, and listen.
Speaker 3: You also have to give to read her credit too,
Speaker 3: because she had some lethal reads where she's like, and
Speaker 3: what is hit? Your money bought you a horse that
Speaker 3: can't even buy you a date? Like the reads from
Speaker 3: these two women this episode.
Speaker 2: Were lethal, like they were.
Speaker 3: Gloves off, just coming at each other in the best
Speaker 3: possible way. I mean, and listen, Sutton did look really
Speaker 3: bad because she looked, you know, like she showed us
Speaker 3: who she really is. And here's the thing. When you
Speaker 3: show us who you really are and you own it,
Speaker 3: that's when you win the audience over, even if in
Speaker 3: the temporary small moment they dislike you, which will always
Speaker 3: happen if you just end up doing you and being
Speaker 3: you the way we had to read at the beginning.
Speaker 3: We're finally getting that side of Dreep back. I think
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that this encourages Sutton to just be more
Speaker 3: of herself because look at people, you know, give Kathy
Speaker 3: a pass all the time because Kathy's just like not
Speaker 3: fully like aware, you know, and so they give her
Speaker 3: a pass that like, she can say whatever, she can say,
Speaker 3: she's part Chinese from three thousand BC.
Speaker 2: And we just laugh.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not that deep. We give her that
Speaker 3: pass because we know she's just in this bubble that's
Speaker 3: not in touch with reality and we can laugh at it.
Speaker 3: And that's what made Housewives great, right even with like
Speaker 3: Ronie before they tried to reboot it and kill it,
Speaker 3: it was so great because it was these women on
Speaker 3: the Upper East Side that like, they weren't meant to
Speaker 3: be relatable, They weren't meant to be in our age
Speaker 3: demographic where we're supposed to see ourselves and them. We
Speaker 3: were meant to laugh at the like the craziness of
Speaker 3: their lives, you know. And I think that's what Sutton
Speaker 3: brought to the table this week, which I think maybe
Speaker 3: a shocking a shocking take from you and I because
Speaker 3: you know, I know we've definitely had our critiques for
Speaker 3: miss Sutton in the past, but I think we get
Speaker 3: more of this real Sutton, whereas I know the audience
Speaker 3: may not like her right now in this moment, and
Speaker 3: I think Erica is right, like, what is it you're
Speaker 3: trying to say that your wallet, that you're better than
Speaker 3: her because you have more money, and she's like, my
Speaker 3: wallet's better than her. And it's just like was she's
Speaker 3: showing us who she is and it's it's great.
Speaker 2: It's good TV. It's good TV.
Speaker 1: And listen, there's tons of shade that Drey could go back,
Speaker 1: right because she also said, like your husband and his
Speaker 1: hard work, Okay, pretty much gave you the money on
Speaker 1: your lap because something gets and listen, I love repeating
Speaker 1: this because it motivates me.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm a different type of person. I find motivation
Speaker 2: in these reads. Right, Yeah, sting Zach.
Speaker 1: As we all know, she gets three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month for the rest of her life. Right.
Speaker 1: The reason people are saying on social media, which I
Speaker 1: want to get your opinion on this, they're saying, okay,
Speaker 1: ms girl, you and the clock in sixty hours at
Speaker 1: work a week for that. You weren't you know, doing
Speaker 1: the hands on work to get that money. You lucked up,
Speaker 1: you married, well, you got a divorce and you hired
Speaker 1: a good lawyer and you got a good outcome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so why are you bragging about money as if you
Speaker 1: earned it?
Speaker 2: Is there a difference in terms of you what you think.
Speaker 1: Zach, Listen when it comes to I'll share my opinion
Speaker 1: and we may agree and disagree on this one. When
Speaker 1: it comes to women, men, whomever, who inherit money. So
Speaker 1: let's say you are part of a wealthy family and
Speaker 1: you inherit the money. Okay, I do consider you. We're
Speaker 1: all blessed, but I do consider you lucky. Like luck
Speaker 1: of a draw that you're able to be born into wealth.
Speaker 1: You're lucky right now when you are married to wealthy
Speaker 1: man and by default of a divorce, of a cheating scandal,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, you get alimony for the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. I too consider you. While I's
Speaker 1: lucky you married, well, that's luck. I do think it's
Speaker 1: different when you were physically doing the leg work, working
Speaker 1: so that you can have bragging rights to tell somebody
Speaker 1: my wallet is bigger. So I do think that disconnect
Speaker 1: and I understand it is that Sutton, technically you didn't
Speaker 1: earn this money.
Speaker 2: You were lucky. Do you agree with that?
Speaker 3: One thousand percent? And that's why when we were watching
Speaker 3: the storyline of her being like, I want my mom
Speaker 3: to be proud of me because I have a fashion
Speaker 3: line and I have a store.
Speaker 2: I'm like, lady, like, your mama.
Speaker 3: Knows how you got your money and it was on
Speaker 3: your back and it was not in the sewing shop,
Speaker 3: you know, like let's be clear.
Speaker 2: And so for her to act like she earned this
Speaker 2: money in some way is zach Like, let's try, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Let's just call a spade is bade? You know, like
Speaker 2: it is what it is. So I mean, it's the
Speaker 2: flex of the money.
Speaker 3: And that's why I get Eric aside of it, where
Speaker 3: she's just like, what you think you're better than her
Speaker 3: because you have money, but like you didn't earn your money.
Speaker 3: You know, yes, you're still wealthy. But like, we also
Speaker 3: don't see Jennifer Tilly in that same way. And Jennifer
Speaker 3: Tilly can very much be like you know, she can
Speaker 3: be flaunting her money, and she just seems even though
Speaker 3: she's wacky, she just seems pretty down to earth from
Speaker 3: what we've seen of Jennifer Tilly, so much so that
Speaker 3: she's like I don't even want to pick up the
Speaker 3: caviar tab, you know. In this episode, she's like, when
Speaker 3: you come here, you hope somebody else pays for it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, lady, you can afford this, like what, So,
Speaker 3: it's just it's funny to see Jennifer Tilly still be
Speaker 3: kind of frugal in that way. But like Sutton again,
Speaker 3: like the way that she acts like she earned something
Speaker 3: because of the money that she has when she really
Speaker 3: did and it was her husband's money. They didn't, you know, Like,
Speaker 3: it's just it is kind of funny to me that
Speaker 3: she has a higher you know, she thinks much higher
Speaker 3: of the money that she has, Like, come on, like
Speaker 3: she's not making bank off of Sutton concept. Why else
Speaker 3: would it go from being a brick and mortar to
Speaker 3: suddenly now it's e commerce, which, by the way, here's
Speaker 3: some t Carlos, I christened that store for her.
Speaker 2: She doesn't know that. I've never where the bathroom. She
Speaker 2: doesn't need to know where you naughty boy.
Speaker 1: You That's why I love Zach. He no filter and
Speaker 1: he gives no fucks. Shout out to Erica Day. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that so on the after show, Kyle Richards Okay,
Speaker 1: did not like the comment.
Speaker 2: She thought it was class list.
Speaker 1: I mean, she didn't say that, I'm saying is, but
Speaker 1: she she didn't like Soun's comment. At the very end
Speaker 1: of her statement, Kyle said, and I'm of course paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: but she said, if we're going to compare wallets, then
Speaker 1: something you need to sit down, bitch, Kyle Richard, you
Speaker 1: MASKI is like, let's be clear, the richest housewife of
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills on this current past. It's me, bitch, is
Speaker 1: Kyle Richard's you masky? And that's the flex that I
Speaker 1: want to see on this show. I watched Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: to see wealth. I'll watched Beverly Hills to.
Speaker 2: See like these women.
Speaker 1: Really talk about like the things they can do, which
Speaker 1: is why I love Jennifer Tilly, I love sutting minority
Speaker 1: in the situation, I get it. I love Diana Jenkins
Speaker 1: based on just what I want to see something that
Speaker 1: makes me like, oh fuck, this is what's going on?
Speaker 1: Did you gag that Kyle clocked it when it came
Speaker 1: to Sutton and also had to do a quick little
Speaker 1: flex or my miss thing. Bitch, You're not gonna ever
Speaker 1: think your wallet is bigger than Kyle Richard's.
Speaker 3: Youmansky, Well, what do they say, money talks but well
Speaker 3: whispers ooh, so I think Kyle, listen, Kyle doesn't have
Speaker 3: a cap at three hundred K a month.
Speaker 2: Kai.
Speaker 3: If Mauricio, if the agency is bringing in more than that,
Speaker 3: Kyle keeps rolling in that dough. His money is her money.
Speaker 3: They're not divorced yet, there's no settlement, there's no alimony.
Speaker 3: That is one shared bank account, that is a two
Speaker 3: income households.
Speaker 2: So you know, I.
Speaker 3: Am pretty sure Kyle is absolutely the wealthiest of them.
Speaker 3: All those checks that Mauricio is clearing at the agency,
Speaker 3: with those sales of those properties, those are some big properties,
Speaker 3: and there's again no limit there. And Kyle also doesn't
Speaker 3: have a vanity project like sut In concept that's not
Speaker 3: really making any money, but that's you know, just kind
Speaker 3: of throwing it out the window so that we can,
Speaker 3: you know, get a little pat on the back. Form Mom,
Speaker 3: the river repressive are taking me out speak of Kyle, Well,
Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about the.
Speaker 2: Scene that her friend.
Speaker 1: I read so much into the scene, and I'm curious, Zach,
Speaker 1: if you call what Kyle was throwing Kyle was talked
Speaker 1: to her friend in his Gucci shirt about the fact
Speaker 1: that Mauricio said to her, I didn't think I could
Speaker 1: be alone back then, but I can do it on
Speaker 1: my own now. She made so many references that made
Speaker 1: me believe and this is a shit that I was
Speaker 1: saying to Kyle, like, we have to see you give
Speaker 1: us more. And I thought that in this scene we
Speaker 1: got more. But I need for you guys to dissect it.
Speaker 1: What I got from this was this Mauricio wanted this
Speaker 1: first and foremost, and Mauricio allegedly wanted this separation divorced
Speaker 1: for a long time. What I got from this is
Speaker 1: Kyle tried to fight for her marriage because she she
Speaker 1: came from a single parent household, being one of three girls,
Speaker 1: and she has four daughters, and she did not want
Speaker 1: to come She did not want her daughter's fate to
Speaker 1: be the broken home she came from, so she fought
Speaker 1: to save the marriage. What I got from all of
Speaker 1: this is Mauricia wanted this. Kyle had no choice but
Speaker 1: to accept it, and he did not fight to make
Speaker 1: it work. His mind was made up and Kyle had
Speaker 1: no choice but to accept Mauricio's decision and by default, she.
Speaker 2: Had to move on. Is that how you gathered it
Speaker 2: or do you have a different take from it?
Speaker 3: I think I see it the same way, but I
Speaker 3: also see that it may have been maybe not that
Speaker 3: he wanted to divorce, but that he was so checked
Speaker 3: out that he wanted to step out. And I think
Speaker 3: he wanted the Beverly Hills thing of we don't talk
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: I do what I do.
Speaker 3: We don't, you know, you don't need to know the details.
Speaker 3: I'll keep it all quiet. I'll make sure it's not
Speaker 3: messy and that it's not in the press. But at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I think he wanted his freedom,
Speaker 3: you know. And I think he felt in demand. He was,
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't have the money when they first
Speaker 3: came into the marriage. He didn't have that kind of
Speaker 3: money he has it now. And I think when a
Speaker 3: man reaches a certain age and he develops a certain
Speaker 3: amount of wealth, he you know, he feels invincible and
Speaker 3: he wants to, you know, spread his his loins all over.
Speaker 2: You know, not his wings.
Speaker 3: Not his wings, well someone else's wings. He wants to
Speaker 3: spread other wings that are not that don't belong to
Speaker 3: him or his wife. But so I think he wanted
Speaker 3: and listen, it's something that happens in Beverly Hills all
Speaker 3: the time. Your marriage reaches a certain place and it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'll let we're not as connected as we
Speaker 3: used to be, but we do still have We're still family,
Speaker 3: Kyle says a lot.
Speaker 2: We're still family. We're still family. We're still family.
Speaker 3: So I think maybe there was something that he wanted
Speaker 3: that was not the full monogamous commitment that I think
Speaker 3: they originally signed up for when they got married.
Speaker 2: And I think that's where she's really struggling.
Speaker 3: And that's where we also have that reference that she
Speaker 3: made last season about like he did something that really
Speaker 3: violated my trust and she won't talk about that, and
Speaker 3: she won't open up about it, and we've heard that
Speaker 3: they are all these things.
Speaker 2: What do you think the violation was. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, the only two things that are super violating
Speaker 3: are an affair or it has to be something financial.
Speaker 3: So he either did something financially with their money that
Speaker 3: betrayed her trust in some way, or you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know if it was like Tom Jardy he was
Speaker 3: buying a judge of buye and a beach house. I
Speaker 3: don't know what he did with the money that made
Speaker 3: her feel a certain type of way. But you know which,
Speaker 3: by the way, everyone that was crying about Erica returning
Speaker 3: the earrings they should be on drudge Tricia Bigelow asking
Speaker 3: for her butt back, get those butt implants out and
Speaker 3: fork them over.
Speaker 1: Like oh shit, Zach, I can't, I can't, I can't.
Speaker 2: Well, I can't. Okay, I love it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So do you think when it comes to Morgan?
Speaker 1: The only thing I want from cow and maybe we'll
Speaker 1: get at the reunion. The only missing piece to this
Speaker 1: is when Mauricio decided that because I agree with everything
Speaker 1: you said, and that's the reason why this story has
Speaker 1: so much potential to be amazing because similarly to what
Speaker 1: we're talking about with Blake life and just about don'ting
Speaker 1: like that's that's that's.
Speaker 2: Very Hollywood, that's that's a Hollywood story. That that that's
Speaker 2: never gonna happen. You know, the facet of a business right.
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills is so special to me because it's a
Speaker 1: different fucking planet. How people operate, how they live, and
Speaker 1: how they love.
Speaker 2: Each other, like each other whatever.
Speaker 1: I agree with you that in Beverly Hills they do
Speaker 1: keep things a secret.
Speaker 2: There. It is all about image.
Speaker 1: Your wife needs to be in your arm and the
Speaker 1: mistress is waiting for you in the limousine, you know
Speaker 1: down the block.
Speaker 2: We heard a lot of this with Camille Grammar.
Speaker 1: When she was going through her divorce like she was
Speaker 1: Kelsey even Kelsey Grammar even said that that was his
Speaker 1: parting gift, not a fucking diamond bracelet, not alimony. He said,
Speaker 1: my parting gift to my wife, because she knew I
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend, was to give her the show, The
Speaker 1: Real Housepalks of Bildy Hills because she wanted to be famous.
Speaker 1: That's that's the shit that I thought this This show
Speaker 1: was missing for a lot of seasons. So when it
Speaker 1: comes to Maurice and Kyle's situation, I grew with everything
Speaker 1: you're saying. The only thing that is very interesting to
Speaker 1: me is the Morgan piece in terms of did Kyle's
Speaker 1: alleged I want to tell alleged alleged awakening when it
Speaker 1: came to that situation.
Speaker 2: Now she has a confern but whatever.
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm curious about is did that occur
Speaker 1: while she and mauricea agreed to maybe see other people
Speaker 1: or did that happen first and then she finally said,
Speaker 1: I know you wanted this for a long time, Mauricio.
Speaker 1: An awakening occurred let's do it now, and he said,
Speaker 1: by nuh Lee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that's probably likely. I think she
Speaker 3: didn't expect to, you know, become a pescatarian, but Morgan
Speaker 3: just made her feel a different type of way. And
Speaker 3: you know you're gonna get when you invite me on
Speaker 3: your show, Carle no Hoddy.
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, it was.
Speaker 3: Just the awakening that she needed, and I think that
Speaker 3: that's when she was finally ready. But I think, you know,
Speaker 3: more than Kyle is grieving the loss of her marriage.
Speaker 3: I think she's going through an identity crisis of like
Speaker 3: who am I? You know now that she doesn't have Mauricio,
Speaker 3: And I think she's realizing she didn't have him for
Speaker 3: a very long time and he never really emotionally fulfilled her,
Speaker 3: which is probably why she connected with Morgan so strongly.
Speaker 3: At least, you know, maybe they just have a deep
Speaker 3: emotional connection. Maybe it's nothing beyond that, but I think
Speaker 3: Morgan probably you know, checked some boxes that Mauricio wasn't
Speaker 3: able to, which is why we have the Allison Dubois
Speaker 3: he will never emotionally fulfill you. I think that there
Speaker 3: was something to that. I think now the kids are
Speaker 3: grown they're out of the house. She's you know, going
Speaker 3: through this empty nesting period and then she knows that
Speaker 3: even her role on the show, like she doesn't even
Speaker 3: know what her role on the show even is anymore,
Speaker 3: and how much longer she even wants to do this.
Speaker 3: You know, she doesn't have her stores anymore, she doesn't
Speaker 3: really have anything else that's really she's not producing an American woman,
Speaker 3: So you know, she's kind of just like figuring out
Speaker 3: what the next chapter of her life is. And I
Speaker 3: think that's really the identity crisis that she's struggling with
Speaker 3: right now, is like, well, who am I now that
Speaker 3: I'm not a mom and a wife that I've always
Speaker 3: you know, prided myself on being these two things. But
Speaker 3: now the kids don't eat me because they're grown, and
Speaker 3: my husband, you know, is out an ass been with
Speaker 3: all these young influencers, So I don't know, not.
Speaker 1: An asked to spin off called TikTok okay and Mauricio.
Speaker 2: So the thing is this? The thing is this? The
Speaker 2: thing is this.
Speaker 1: It's apparent that Sutton on Garsel do not for a
Speaker 1: second believe that when Maurici was called at the airport,
Speaker 1: the same airport son Son. I love you, Sutton, if you,
Speaker 1: if you, if you ever question my loyalty to you,
Speaker 1: know that today I love you. Sutton said that the
Speaker 1: same airport that Maurici was called kissing a woman by
Speaker 1: Papa Razzo, it's the same airport she frequented with diniferent
Speaker 1: Adams was there and no photographer was there. Garsel and
Speaker 1: Sutton are alleged that it was planted that Mauricio Ohio
Speaker 1: photographer and it was a giveback to all of these
Speaker 1: photos of Morgan and Kyle. Do you believe that as
Speaker 1: well as Zach.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe Mauricio is the one
Speaker 3: that's planting these photos as much as I maybe think
Speaker 3: that it's maybe these women that he's sleeping with that
Speaker 3: want a little, you know, attention, and so therefore they're
Speaker 3: going to stage some of these pictures because I mean,
Speaker 3: look at like we talked about the influencers and Aspen,
Speaker 3: that story went everywhere when it was posted on Instagram, right,
Speaker 3: So I think women are starting to see you know,
Speaker 3: I mean again tail as old as time in Hollywood.
Speaker 3: You know, you you go after the guy that's going
Speaker 3: to help you, you know, get to the next next
Speaker 3: phase if you are really that fame hungry.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, like.
Speaker 3: Sutton, I have to agree, paparazzi pictures don't often happen
Speaker 3: very organically. Now if you're in the middle of a
Speaker 3: big scandal, I can understand how maybe a couple of
Speaker 3: the Morgan Wade photos at the beginning were authentic or genuine, because,
Speaker 3: like you know, there was interest there because Kyle was
Speaker 3: hiding something and people wanted to find what the story was.
Speaker 3: But I mean, it is a little you know, it's
Speaker 3: a little strange that these random spots that he's found
Speaker 3: out in tend to always capture him with these other women.
Speaker 3: I mean, it could also just be the fact that,
Speaker 3: like some paparazzi are following him because they know that
Speaker 3: they're likely going to find I don't know, It's just
Speaker 3: I think the more I'm trying to talk it through,
Speaker 3: the more I think I agree with Sutton and Garceli.
Speaker 3: I think somebody staged those photos. I don't know if
Speaker 3: I believe it was Mauricio himself, but I believe somebody did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think somebody did. I don't
Speaker 1: think Mariso did it either. I think someone did. And
Speaker 1: the other thing too rain drops. Just so you all know,
Speaker 1: and Zach can also attest to this. When you see
Speaker 1: a celebrity, whether they're a reality star, a musician, an actor,
Speaker 1: or influencer of a certain.
Speaker 2: Scale in life.
Speaker 1: When you see a celebrity at LAX, Los Angeles Airport,
Speaker 1: just stop Bob paparazzi outside waiting for their uber. There
Speaker 1: is this nice situation called private suite reserve. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you watch the show you've seen in Garsel and Kyle
Speaker 1: use this service to go see Reba in Augusta. So
Speaker 1: you do do not when you are that's famous. You
Speaker 1: do not walk around the airport in Terminal three. Get
Speaker 1: you go off the jet bridge. You hop in a
Speaker 1: car and they take it to a waiting area and
Speaker 1: your car service picks you up. So when I used
Speaker 1: to see I'm just being honest here because I got
Speaker 1: to be fair.
Speaker 2: But now I used to see.
Speaker 1: Morgan Wade and the rest of them like at LAX,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you You don't have to what
Speaker 1: are we talking about here? Like?
Speaker 2: How do they know?
Speaker 1: And what I do know is Zach is right, Papa
Speaker 1: Rozzi are now on payroll. They whether it's the publicist,
Speaker 1: the manager, or the or the or the celebrity themselves.
Speaker 1: They tell you what terminal they're landing, they tell you
Speaker 1: what time to landing. Paparazzi in LA they're not just
Speaker 1: randomly waiting outside of Terminal four, like it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: It's a stage. So when it comes to this photo,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's not a busy airport. Somebody
Speaker 1: has to tip someone off. I just don't believe. I
Speaker 1: just don't believe it was Murcia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean paparazzi photos like that are not organic anymore.
Speaker 3: And because social media, like if it's a social somebody's photo,
Speaker 3: like a blurry photo of somebody at an airport, get
Speaker 3: catching them.
Speaker 2: That's different.
Speaker 3: But like these traditional paparazzi photos don't like none of
Speaker 3: this at the airport at the TMZ. If you ever
Speaker 3: see my ass coming out of a store, coming out
Speaker 3: of you know, Creighton Barrel walking down the street and
Speaker 3: suddenly TMZ's there and TMZ's like, oh, Zach Peter your podcast.
Speaker 3: You're the host of No Filter with Zach Peter, right,
Speaker 3: And they're reading the cue card and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: how did you find what? A kawinkydink, you know, like,
Speaker 3: none of that shit is real. None of it's anytime
Speaker 3: you see anybody. Every time I see Peter Madrigal on
Speaker 3: TMZ walk in the streets of West Hollywood on his
Speaker 3: way to shift, it sir that they just happen to
Speaker 3: catch him on as he's commenting on Lisa vander Pump's
Speaker 3: latest scandal. It's never real, It's all fake.
Speaker 1: Ah Zak is always a pleasure to have you on.
Speaker 2: You make me belly laugh like no one else. I
Speaker 2: do mean this when.
Speaker 1: I say that I'm so proud of you to see
Speaker 1: your podcast grow at the level that is growing.
Speaker 2: You know, you are a hard worker.
Speaker 1: People don't realize podcasting is a full time job. You
Speaker 1: have to like book your own guests and do your
Speaker 1: research and record and make sure it goes out in time,
Speaker 1: and make sure that when breaking news happen that you
Speaker 1: are able to like pivot and report on what's going
Speaker 1: on so that you're not like delayed while everyone else
Speaker 1: is in front of you. So I just wanted you
Speaker 1: to know I'm so proud of you. You're doing amazing work.
Speaker 1: So let the raindrops know, my love when they can
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