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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the

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Speaker 1: King of Reality TV and one of the most sought

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Speaker 1: after executive producers in reality television with over ten years

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Speaker 1: of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,

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Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,

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Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that

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Speaker 1: we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, rain Drops,

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Speaker 1: on today's episode of Reality with the King, listen, we

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Speaker 1: are going to recap what I would like to call

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Speaker 1: the best episode this season of The Real Housewats of

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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. I have so many thoughts on this episode,

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Speaker 1: and knowing you, rain Drops, you are going to be

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Speaker 1: very surprised by my thoughts and commentary. And of course

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Speaker 1: I needed another messy person to join me to recap.

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Speaker 1: You all know him for his amazing top rated podcasts

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Speaker 1: No Filter Rejact Peter, So.

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Speaker 2: Give it up for Zach Hi rain Drups. How's it going, Zach?

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Speaker 2: You are like the.

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Speaker 3: Rain fall down and wake my dreams. Let it was show?

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Speaker 3: Wait it's good? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I am doing excellent? First of all, I want to say.

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Speaker 1: I love you on my friends Meghan McCain's podcasts. I

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Speaker 1: sent her a text and I said, girl, that was

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Speaker 1: one of your best episodes. I loved it so much.

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Speaker 1: You two have great chemistry too. I just I just

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Speaker 1: love this.

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Speaker 2: So I'm proud of you. Your podcast is doing very well.

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Speaker 1: You are, like, first of all, what has been so

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Speaker 1: wonderful to watch your growth because to see you really

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Speaker 1: showcase your journalistic skills as it relates to the Blake

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Speaker 1: Lively and just about Donny Case, Like, I am super

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Speaker 1: obsessed with everything going on with that one, and you

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Speaker 1: do such a good job in your deep dive.

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Speaker 2: So rain Drops. If you're obsessed with it, listen to

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Speaker 2: his podcast. He's fantastic at the breakdown.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean before taping, we were just talking about

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Speaker 3: Erica Jane because I just saw her in New York

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Speaker 3: over the weekend. And it's really a credit to the

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Speaker 3: Girardi legal scandal. That's when I really became like el

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Speaker 3: Woods learning how to read legal documents and how to

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Speaker 3: access legal documents and in covering that is really what

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Speaker 3: kind of gave me this Kim Kardashian itch to dive

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Speaker 3: more into learning about the law, and I mean, when

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Speaker 3: I tell you this is one of the messiest and

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Speaker 3: pettiest celebrity legal scandals, it is like people are like

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Speaker 3: comparing this to Johnny Depp and amberhard which was messy.

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Speaker 3: But when I tell you the level of petty that

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Speaker 3: both of these people are going to in their letters

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Speaker 3: to the judge, Like just this week we had Blake Lively,

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Speaker 3: you know, sarcastically reference a hypothetical of Justin Baldoni having

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Speaker 3: five mistresses, and it's just like you're putting this in

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Speaker 3: your legal filing to the judge, referencing Baldoni's five hypothetical mistresses,

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Speaker 3: Like It's just it's so like if you love housewives,

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Speaker 3: like this is the legal drama you're going to be

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Speaker 3: obsessed with.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the reason why I love what I

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Speaker 1: do for a living, because when people make these accusations

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Speaker 1: and listen, I can only talk about my shows and

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Speaker 1: it shows I've been a part of. But when people

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Speaker 1: make accusations of a reality of script that it is

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Speaker 2: Nobody behaves this way. I'm always like, people do behave

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Speaker 1: And I think when you look at Hollywood, for example,

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Speaker 1: very you know, mystique or mysterious.

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Speaker 2: And it was before social media.

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Speaker 1: But for example, when Will Smith slaps Chris Rock, things

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Speaker 1: happen like that in real life and it doesn't make

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Speaker 1: you a bad person. Shit happens this blank and just

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Speaker 1: thing to me, what's so interesting is this? I think

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Speaker 1: is aw petty Personally. I just I'm sort of like,

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Speaker 1: why is this warranted? Because I feel like it's a

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Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. But based on what

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Speaker 1: I've been reading, it doesn't seem like there's anything that

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Speaker 3: No? You know what, it reminds me of the season

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Speaker 2: Wild how far they're going with this.

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Speaker 1: So you have your al Woods meet Kim Kardashian Esquire

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Speaker 1: podcast now, which is amazing. We just found out today

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Speaker 1: that Karen Huger from the Real Housewives of Potomac was

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Speaker 1: sentenced to two years in jail one year suspended right,

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Speaker 1: that allegedly she screamed out, I love you, Ray God,

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Speaker 2: Is there anything you know about this?

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Speaker 1: And I think everyone's most important question, are you also

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Speaker 3: So I posted about it on social media today. I mean,

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Speaker 3: But I mean, Karen, I really think she thought she

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Speaker 1: Being sentenced to one year serving serving one year in prison.

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Speaker 1: So allegedly the judge said that Karen has thirty days

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Speaker 2: A lower sentence.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Karen should have pilled this number one

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Speaker 3: She'll likely get out earlier. I don't predict that she'll

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Speaker 3: We now have found out that she wasn't really in

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Speaker 2: So explained to me the difference.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know this, Zach, and that's why I'm HAPPI

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Speaker 1: you're on today. What is the difference between So she

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Speaker 1: and none of that was this.

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Speaker 2: She went to what exactly I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, it seems like my understanding of the facility that

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Speaker 3: when she went and she did her program, but I

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Speaker 3: think she did an outpatient program actually, whereas Karen went

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Speaker 2: There was some form of detox that she did.

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Speaker 1: and I, Carlos King, am now a Sluton. I oh, listen,

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Speaker 1: I feel like Sutton truly represents rich white women in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, child, We are just getting started.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 3: you the way we had to read at the beginning.

437
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: We're finally getting that side of Dreep back. I think

438
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that this encourages Sutton to just be more

439
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: of herself because look at people, you know, give Kathy

440
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 3: a pass all the time because Kathy's just like not

441
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: fully like aware, you know, and so they give her

442
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: a pass that like, she can say whatever, she can say,

443
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 3: she's part Chinese from three thousand BC.

444
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: And we just laugh.

445
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: You know, it's not that deep. We give her that

446
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: pass because we know she's just in this bubble that's

447
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 3: not in touch with reality and we can laugh at it.

448
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: And that's what made Housewives great, right even with like

449
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: Ronie before they tried to reboot it and kill it,

450
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 3: it was so great because it was these women on

451
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 3: the Upper East Side that like, they weren't meant to

452
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: be relatable, They weren't meant to be in our age

453
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: demographic where we're supposed to see ourselves and them. We

454
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: were meant to laugh at the like the craziness of

455
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: their lives, you know. And I think that's what Sutton

456
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: brought to the table this week, which I think maybe

457
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: a shocking a shocking take from you and I because

458
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: you know, I know we've definitely had our critiques for

459
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: miss Sutton in the past, but I think we get

460
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: more of this real Sutton, whereas I know the audience

461
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: may not like her right now in this moment, and

462
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: I think Erica is right, like, what is it you're

463
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: trying to say that your wallet, that you're better than

464
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 3: her because you have more money, and she's like, my

465
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: wallet's better than her. And it's just like was she's

466
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: showing us who she is and it's it's great.

467
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: It's good TV. It's good TV.

468
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: And listen, there's tons of shade that Drey could go back,

469
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: right because she also said, like your husband and his

470
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 1: hard work, Okay, pretty much gave you the money on

471
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: your lap because something gets and listen, I love repeating

472
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: this because it motivates me.

473
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm a different type of person. I find motivation

474
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: in these reads. Right, Yeah, sting Zach.

475
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: As we all know, she gets three hundred and fifty

476
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month for the rest of her life. Right.

477
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: The reason people are saying on social media, which I

478
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: want to get your opinion on this, they're saying, okay,

479
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 1: ms girl, you and the clock in sixty hours at

480
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: work a week for that. You weren't you know, doing

481
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: the hands on work to get that money. You lucked up,

482
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: you married, well, you got a divorce and you hired

483
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: a good lawyer and you got a good outcome. Yeah,

484
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: so why are you bragging about money as if you

485
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: earned it?

486
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: Is there a difference in terms of you what you think.

487
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: Zach, Listen when it comes to I'll share my opinion

488
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: and we may agree and disagree on this one. When

489
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: it comes to women, men, whomever, who inherit money. So

490
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 1: let's say you are part of a wealthy family and

491
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: you inherit the money. Okay, I do consider you. We're

492
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: all blessed, but I do consider you lucky. Like luck

493
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: of a draw that you're able to be born into wealth.

494
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: You're lucky right now when you are married to wealthy

495
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: man and by default of a divorce, of a cheating scandal,

496
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, you get alimony for the

497
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: rest of your life. I too consider you. While I's

498
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: lucky you married, well, that's luck. I do think it's

499
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: different when you were physically doing the leg work, working

500
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: so that you can have bragging rights to tell somebody

501
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: my wallet is bigger. So I do think that disconnect

502
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: and I understand it is that Sutton, technically you didn't

503
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: earn this money.

504
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: You were lucky. Do you agree with that?

505
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: One thousand percent? And that's why when we were watching

506
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: the storyline of her being like, I want my mom

507
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: to be proud of me because I have a fashion

508
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: line and I have a store.

509
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, lady, like, your mama.

510
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: Knows how you got your money and it was on

511
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: your back and it was not in the sewing shop,

512
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: you know, like let's be clear.

513
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: And so for her to act like she earned this

514
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: money in some way is zach Like, let's try, wasn't it.

515
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: Let's just call a spade is bade? You know, like

516
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: it is what it is. So I mean, it's the

517
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 2: flex of the money.

518
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: And that's why I get Eric aside of it, where

519
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 3: she's just like, what you think you're better than her

520
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: because you have money, but like you didn't earn your money.

521
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: You know, yes, you're still wealthy. But like, we also

522
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 3: don't see Jennifer Tilly in that same way. And Jennifer

523
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: Tilly can very much be like you know, she can

524
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 3: be flaunting her money, and she just seems even though

525
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: she's wacky, she just seems pretty down to earth from

526
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: what we've seen of Jennifer Tilly, so much so that

527
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: she's like I don't even want to pick up the

528
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: caviar tab, you know. In this episode, she's like, when

529
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: you come here, you hope somebody else pays for it.

530
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, lady, you can afford this, like what, So,

531
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: it's just it's funny to see Jennifer Tilly still be

532
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 3: kind of frugal in that way. But like Sutton again,

533
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 3: like the way that she acts like she earned something

534
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: because of the money that she has when she really

535
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: did and it was her husband's money. They didn't, you know, Like,

536
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: it's just it is kind of funny to me that

537
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: she has a higher you know, she thinks much higher

538
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: of the money that she has, Like, come on, like

539
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: she's not making bank off of Sutton concept. Why else

540
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: would it go from being a brick and mortar to

541
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: suddenly now it's e commerce, which, by the way, here's

542
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: some t Carlos, I christened that store for her.

543
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: She doesn't know that. I've never where the bathroom. She

544
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: doesn't need to know where you naughty boy.

545
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: You That's why I love Zach. He no filter and

546
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: he gives no fucks. Shout out to Erica Day. Okay,

547
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: So that so on the after show, Kyle Richards Okay,

548
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: did not like the comment.

549
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: She thought it was class list.

550
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean, she didn't say that, I'm saying is, but

551
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: she she didn't like Soun's comment. At the very end

552
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: of her statement, Kyle said, and I'm of course paraphrasing,

553
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: but she said, if we're going to compare wallets, then

554
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: something you need to sit down, bitch, Kyle Richard, you

555
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: MASKI is like, let's be clear, the richest housewife of

556
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills on this current past. It's me, bitch, is

557
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Richard's you masky? And that's the flex that I

558
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: want to see on this show. I watched Beverly Hills

559
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: to see wealth. I'll watched Beverly Hills to.

560
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: See like these women.

561
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: Really talk about like the things they can do, which

562
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: is why I love Jennifer Tilly, I love sutting minority

563
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: in the situation, I get it. I love Diana Jenkins

564
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: based on just what I want to see something that

565
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: makes me like, oh fuck, this is what's going on?

566
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: Did you gag that Kyle clocked it when it came

567
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: to Sutton and also had to do a quick little

568
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: flex or my miss thing. Bitch, You're not gonna ever

569
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: think your wallet is bigger than Kyle Richard's.

570
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Youmansky, Well, what do they say, money talks but well

571
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: whispers ooh, so I think Kyle, listen, Kyle doesn't have

572
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: a cap at three hundred K a month.

573
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: Kai.

574
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: If Mauricio, if the agency is bringing in more than that,

575
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: Kyle keeps rolling in that dough. His money is her money.

576
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: They're not divorced yet, there's no settlement, there's no alimony.

577
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: That is one shared bank account, that is a two

578
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: income households.

579
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: So you know, I.

580
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: Am pretty sure Kyle is absolutely the wealthiest of them.

581
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: All those checks that Mauricio is clearing at the agency,

582
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: with those sales of those properties, those are some big properties,

583
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: and there's again no limit there. And Kyle also doesn't

584
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: have a vanity project like sut In concept that's not

585
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: really making any money, but that's you know, just kind

586
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: of throwing it out the window so that we can,

587
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: you know, get a little pat on the back. Form Mom,

588
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: the river repressive are taking me out speak of Kyle, Well,

589
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about the.

590
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: Scene that her friend.

591
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: I read so much into the scene, and I'm curious, Zach,

592
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: if you call what Kyle was throwing Kyle was talked

593
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: to her friend in his Gucci shirt about the fact

594
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: that Mauricio said to her, I didn't think I could

595
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: be alone back then, but I can do it on

596
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: my own now. She made so many references that made

597
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: me believe and this is a shit that I was

598
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: saying to Kyle, like, we have to see you give

599
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: us more. And I thought that in this scene we

600
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: got more. But I need for you guys to dissect it.

601
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: What I got from this was this Mauricio wanted this

602
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: first and foremost, and Mauricio allegedly wanted this separation divorced

603
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: for a long time. What I got from this is

604
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: Kyle tried to fight for her marriage because she she

605
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: came from a single parent household, being one of three girls,

606
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: and she has four daughters, and she did not want

607
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: to come She did not want her daughter's fate to

608
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: be the broken home she came from, so she fought

609
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: to save the marriage. What I got from all of

610
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: this is Mauricia wanted this. Kyle had no choice but

611
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: to accept it, and he did not fight to make

612
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: it work. His mind was made up and Kyle had

613
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: no choice but to accept Mauricio's decision and by default, she.

614
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: Had to move on. Is that how you gathered it

615
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: or do you have a different take from it?

616
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: I think I see it the same way, but I

617
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: also see that it may have been maybe not that

618
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: he wanted to divorce, but that he was so checked

619
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: out that he wanted to step out. And I think

620
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: he wanted the Beverly Hills thing of we don't talk

621
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: about it.

622
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: I do what I do.

623
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: We don't, you know, you don't need to know the details.

624
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: I'll keep it all quiet. I'll make sure it's not

625
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: messy and that it's not in the press. But at

626
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I think he wanted his freedom,

627
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: you know. And I think he felt in demand. He was,

628
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't have the money when they first

629
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: came into the marriage. He didn't have that kind of

630
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: money he has it now. And I think when a

631
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: man reaches a certain age and he develops a certain

632
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: amount of wealth, he you know, he feels invincible and

633
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: he wants to, you know, spread his his loins all over.

634
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: You know, not his wings.

635
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: Not his wings, well someone else's wings. He wants to

636
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: spread other wings that are not that don't belong to

637
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: him or his wife. But so I think he wanted

638
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: and listen, it's something that happens in Beverly Hills all

639
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 3: the time. Your marriage reaches a certain place and it's like,

640
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: all right, I'll let we're not as connected as we

641
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 3: used to be, but we do still have We're still family,

642
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: Kyle says a lot.

643
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: We're still family. We're still family. We're still family.

644
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: So I think maybe there was something that he wanted

645
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 3: that was not the full monogamous commitment that I think

646
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: they originally signed up for when they got married.

647
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: And I think that's where she's really struggling.

648
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: And that's where we also have that reference that she

649
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: made last season about like he did something that really

650
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: violated my trust and she won't talk about that, and

651
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: she won't open up about it, and we've heard that

652
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 3: they are all these things.

653
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: What do you think the violation was. I don't know.

654
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: I mean, the only two things that are super violating

655
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: are an affair or it has to be something financial.

656
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 3: So he either did something financially with their money that

657
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: betrayed her trust in some way, or you know, I

658
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: don't know if it was like Tom Jardy he was

659
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: buying a judge of buye and a beach house. I

660
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: don't know what he did with the money that made

661
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: her feel a certain type of way. But you know which,

662
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: by the way, everyone that was crying about Erica returning

663
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: the earrings they should be on drudge Tricia Bigelow asking

664
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: for her butt back, get those butt implants out and

665
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 3: fork them over.

666
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: Like oh shit, Zach, I can't, I can't, I can't.

667
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: Well, I can't. Okay, I love it.

668
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So do you think when it comes to Morgan?

669
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: The only thing I want from cow and maybe we'll

670
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: get at the reunion. The only missing piece to this

671
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: is when Mauricio decided that because I agree with everything

672
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: you said, and that's the reason why this story has

673
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: so much potential to be amazing because similarly to what

674
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about with Blake life and just about don'ting

675
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: like that's that's that's.

676
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: Very Hollywood, that's that's a Hollywood story. That that that's

677
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 2: never gonna happen. You know, the facet of a business right.

678
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills is so special to me because it's a

679
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: different fucking planet. How people operate, how they live, and

680
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: how they love.

681
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: Each other, like each other whatever.

682
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you that in Beverly Hills they do

683
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: keep things a secret.

684
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: There. It is all about image.

685
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Your wife needs to be in your arm and the

686
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: mistress is waiting for you in the limousine, you know

687
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: down the block.

688
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: We heard a lot of this with Camille Grammar.

689
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: When she was going through her divorce like she was

690
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Kelsey even Kelsey Grammar even said that that was his

691
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: parting gift, not a fucking diamond bracelet, not alimony. He said,

692
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: my parting gift to my wife, because she knew I

693
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend, was to give her the show, The

694
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: Real Housepalks of Bildy Hills because she wanted to be famous.

695
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: That's that's the shit that I thought this This show

696
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: was missing for a lot of seasons. So when it

697
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: comes to Maurice and Kyle's situation, I grew with everything

698
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: you're saying. The only thing that is very interesting to

699
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: me is the Morgan piece in terms of did Kyle's

700
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: alleged I want to tell alleged alleged awakening when it

701
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: came to that situation.

702
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: Now she has a confern but whatever.

703
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm curious about is did that occur

704
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: while she and mauricea agreed to maybe see other people

705
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: or did that happen first and then she finally said,

706
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: I know you wanted this for a long time, Mauricio.

707
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: An awakening occurred let's do it now, and he said,

708
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: by nuh Lee.

709
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that's probably likely. I think she

710
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: didn't expect to, you know, become a pescatarian, but Morgan

711
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 3: just made her feel a different type of way. And

712
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: you know you're gonna get when you invite me on

713
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: your show, Carle no Hoddy.

714
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, it was.

715
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: Just the awakening that she needed, and I think that

716
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: that's when she was finally ready. But I think, you know,

717
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: more than Kyle is grieving the loss of her marriage.

718
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: I think she's going through an identity crisis of like

719
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 3: who am I? You know now that she doesn't have Mauricio,

720
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: And I think she's realizing she didn't have him for

721
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: a very long time and he never really emotionally fulfilled her,

722
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: which is probably why she connected with Morgan so strongly.

723
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 3: At least, you know, maybe they just have a deep

724
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: emotional connection. Maybe it's nothing beyond that, but I think

725
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: Morgan probably you know, checked some boxes that Mauricio wasn't

726
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: able to, which is why we have the Allison Dubois

727
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: he will never emotionally fulfill you. I think that there

728
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: was something to that. I think now the kids are

729
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: grown they're out of the house. She's you know, going

730
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: through this empty nesting period and then she knows that

731
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: even her role on the show, like she doesn't even

732
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 3: know what her role on the show even is anymore,

733
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: and how much longer she even wants to do this.

734
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 3: You know, she doesn't have her stores anymore, she doesn't

735
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 3: really have anything else that's really she's not producing an American woman,

736
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: So you know, she's kind of just like figuring out

737
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: what the next chapter of her life is. And I

738
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: think that's really the identity crisis that she's struggling with

739
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: right now, is like, well, who am I now that

740
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: I'm not a mom and a wife that I've always

741
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: you know, prided myself on being these two things. But

742
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: now the kids don't eat me because they're grown, and

743
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: my husband, you know, is out an ass been with

744
00:38:54,760 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: all these young influencers, So I don't know, not.

745
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: An asked to spin off called TikTok okay and Mauricio.

746
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: So the thing is this? The thing is this? The

747
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: thing is this.

748
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: It's apparent that Sutton on Garsel do not for a

749
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: second believe that when Maurici was called at the airport,

750
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: the same airport son Son. I love you, Sutton, if you,

751
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: if you, if you ever question my loyalty to you,

752
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: know that today I love you. Sutton said that the

753
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: same airport that Maurici was called kissing a woman by

754
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: Papa Razzo, it's the same airport she frequented with diniferent

755
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: Adams was there and no photographer was there. Garsel and

756
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: Sutton are alleged that it was planted that Mauricio Ohio

757
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: photographer and it was a giveback to all of these

758
00:39:53,960 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: photos of Morgan and Kyle. Do you believe that as

759
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 1: well as Zach.

760
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe Mauricio is the one

761
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 3: that's planting these photos as much as I maybe think

762
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 3: that it's maybe these women that he's sleeping with that

763
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: want a little, you know, attention, and so therefore they're

764
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: going to stage some of these pictures because I mean,

765
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: look at like we talked about the influencers and Aspen,

766
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 3: that story went everywhere when it was posted on Instagram, right,

767
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: So I think women are starting to see you know,

768
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: I mean again tail as old as time in Hollywood.

769
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: You know, you you go after the guy that's going

770
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: to help you, you know, get to the next next

771
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: phase if you are really that fame hungry.

772
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, like.

773
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: Sutton, I have to agree, paparazzi pictures don't often happen

774
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: very organically. Now if you're in the middle of a

775
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: big scandal, I can understand how maybe a couple of

776
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 3: the Morgan Wade photos at the beginning were authentic or genuine, because,

777
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: like you know, there was interest there because Kyle was

778
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: hiding something and people wanted to find what the story was.

779
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: But I mean, it is a little you know, it's

780
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: a little strange that these random spots that he's found

781
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: out in tend to always capture him with these other women.

782
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it could also just be the fact that,

783
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: like some paparazzi are following him because they know that

784
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: they're likely going to find I don't know, It's just

785
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: I think the more I'm trying to talk it through,

786
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: the more I think I agree with Sutton and Garceli.

787
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: I think somebody staged those photos. I don't know if

788
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 3: I believe it was Mauricio himself, but I believe somebody did.

789
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think somebody did. I don't

790
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: think Mariso did it either. I think someone did. And

791
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: the other thing too rain drops. Just so you all know,

792
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: and Zach can also attest to this. When you see

793
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: a celebrity, whether they're a reality star, a musician, an actor,

794
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: or influencer of a certain.

795
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: Scale in life.

796
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: When you see a celebrity at LAX, Los Angeles Airport,

797
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: just stop Bob paparazzi outside waiting for their uber. There

798
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: is this nice situation called private suite reserve. Okay, if

799
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: you watch the show you've seen in Garsel and Kyle

800
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: use this service to go see Reba in Augusta. So

801
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: you do do not when you are that's famous. You

802
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: do not walk around the airport in Terminal three. Get

803
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: you go off the jet bridge. You hop in a

804
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: car and they take it to a waiting area and

805
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: your car service picks you up. So when I used

806
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: to see I'm just being honest here because I got

807
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: to be fair.

808
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: But now I used to see.

809
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: Morgan Wade and the rest of them like at LAX,

810
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you You don't have to what

811
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: are we talking about here? Like?

812
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: How do they know?

813
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: And what I do know is Zach is right, Papa

814
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Rozzi are now on payroll. They whether it's the publicist,

815
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: the manager, or the or the or the celebrity themselves.

816
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: They tell you what terminal they're landing, they tell you

817
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: what time to landing. Paparazzi in LA they're not just

818
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: randomly waiting outside of Terminal four, like it doesn't happen.

819
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: It's a stage. So when it comes to this photo,

820
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's not a busy airport. Somebody

821
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: has to tip someone off. I just don't believe. I

822
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: just don't believe it was Murcia.

823
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean paparazzi photos like that are not organic anymore.

824
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: And because social media, like if it's a social somebody's photo,

825
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: like a blurry photo of somebody at an airport, get

826
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: catching them.

827
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: That's different.

828
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: But like these traditional paparazzi photos don't like none of

829
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 3: this at the airport at the TMZ. If you ever

830
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 3: see my ass coming out of a store, coming out

831
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: of you know, Creighton Barrel walking down the street and

832
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: suddenly TMZ's there and TMZ's like, oh, Zach Peter your podcast.

833
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: You're the host of No Filter with Zach Peter, right,

834
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 3: And they're reading the cue card and I'm like, oh,

835
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: how did you find what? A kawinkydink, you know, like,

836
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: none of that shit is real. None of it's anytime

837
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: you see anybody. Every time I see Peter Madrigal on

838
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: TMZ walk in the streets of West Hollywood on his

839
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: way to shift, it sir that they just happen to

840
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: catch him on as he's commenting on Lisa vander Pump's

841
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: latest scandal. It's never real, It's all fake.

842
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: Ah Zak is always a pleasure to have you on.

843
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: You make me belly laugh like no one else. I

844
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: do mean this when.

845
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I say that I'm so proud of you to see

846
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: your podcast grow at the level that is growing.

847
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: You know, you are a hard worker.

848
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: People don't realize podcasting is a full time job. You

849
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: have to like book your own guests and do your

850
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: research and record and make sure it goes out in time,

851
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: and make sure that when breaking news happen that you

852
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: are able to like pivot and report on what's going

853
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: on so that you're not like delayed while everyone else

854
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: is in front of you. So I just wanted you

855
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: to know I'm so proud of you. You're doing amazing work.

856
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: So let the raindrops know, my love when they can

857
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: find you follow you, support your podcast and everything else.

858
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Zach Peter all over the internet. My

859
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 3: show is called No Filters Zach Peter. We stream live

860
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: Monday through Friday mornings on YouTube, and the podcast is

861
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: available on all podcast platforms YouTube, Spotify, Apple, where we

862
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: listen to your podcast or watch your podcast.

863
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: You can listen and watch No Filters Zach Peter.

864
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes, how my brain jobs. Thank you guys

865
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: so much and I'll see you on the next one.

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00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Reality with the Kings.

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Speaker 1: executive produced by me Carlos King, Kingdom Rain Entertainment, Baby