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Speaker 1: We're also gonna ask the question, what the hell of

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Speaker 1: What up sticks?

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Speaker 1: Man, Levarrington?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: How we feel?

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Speaker 2: No, Uh, there's always issues. I'm pushing fifty.

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Speaker 1: App all right, So we continue the conversation here in

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Speaker 1: the waiting game for the NBA Finals, because the NBA

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Speaker 1: and the NBA itself couldn't wait. They couldn't wait any longer.

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Speaker 1: They had to get some news out there, and that

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Speaker 1: news was Tom Thibodeau. He gone as the head coach

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Speaker 1: his time as a New York Knicks coach, even though

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Speaker 1: despite the fact the New York Knicks did something they

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Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeaux finds himself on the outside looking in with

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Speaker 2: You know, Brunson was very very offended when he was

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Speaker 2: asked about if Tibodeaux, what's the right guy for the job?

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Speaker 1: You want to hear it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah's here there is a little Jalen Brunson,

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Speaker 1: uh talking about coach Tibbs following their loss.

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Speaker 4: You talked about the confidence. Obviously, I feel like nobody

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Speaker 4: turned around during his tenure. Do you kind of feel

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Speaker 2: Is that a real question right now? You just asked

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Speaker 1: Fun probably should ask James dole on that maybe he

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Speaker 1: I think it's a clown show. I think it's disguised

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Speaker 1: And this whole idea that the Knicks should be taken

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Speaker 2: You know, there's already people throwing their hat into the

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Speaker 2: NBA accolades speak for themselves. I basically locked up tons

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Speaker 2: it to be funny. Thibodeaux is not. That was the

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Speaker 2: firing was in my estimation. That's a bad move. It's

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Speaker 2: So if you feel like, ah, we've done pretty good

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Speaker 2: You know what this firing does, Jonas, makes players lose

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Speaker 2: you now disrupt the culture. It's the funniest thing. I

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Speaker 2: In fact, he was fine enough for them to knock

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why this would be the decision that

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Speaker 2: What are they doing from here?

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Speaker 1: So Mike Malone, his name is out there, the guy

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Speaker 1: And and so Mike Malone's Name's been thrown out there.

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Speaker 2: Why would you want any parts of it? I got

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Speaker 2: on average annual eleven million reasons.

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Speaker 1: So that's why Doc Rivers always comes back.

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Speaker 2: You can fire me, Doc comes back. Let's see Doc

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Speaker 2: Rivers eleven million finally annual average salary.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's great about Thibodeaux getting fired. They just

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Speaker 1: It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: LaVar Yeah, I never get shot up as early. Coming

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Speaker 2: This is the year you want to try to start

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Speaker 2: just taking it light with him, then that's that's what

434
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: it is. He didn't give any more details. He didn't

435
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 2: say when it happened, you know, how it may have happened.

436
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: You know, Oh he was throwing you know, during during

437
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: this time and had soreness or he was do we

438
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: even know? Is it is throwing arm? What did they say?

439
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: What he didn't say?

440
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: What it was general soreness. It's the old NHL move,

441
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: you know. You know, I'm a upper body lower body injury,

442
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: and then you come to find out, you know, the

443
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: guy was severed at the waist, you know.

444
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: But it all matters, man, Like what I'm dealing with

445
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: right now, if he had general swortness like this and

446
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: his big toe, hey bruh, that makes a difference. And

447
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: his ankle makes a difference. If it's his shn, his knee,

448
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 2: his achilles tended, his hamstring, his quadricep, his it band,

449
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: whatever you want, his lower back, his vertebrate, you know

450
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like if he has any type of

451
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: general soreness anywhere from playing the game of football, which

452
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: most football players do, maybe almost all of them do

453
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: have things that they're dealing with physically that they have

454
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: to maintain and maintenance. So you know that it's a

455
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: general it's a very generic in general comment and statement.

456
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: If that's what it's going to be, I guess that's

457
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: just making sure you you cover off on not if

458
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: this were to become a bigger injury that you did

459
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 2: log it, you did file it, you did address it,

460
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: and and you're moving on from it. But if you're

461
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: going to be so general about it, why even why

462
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 2: even talk about it? Uh?

463
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: I think because people had noted that we're covering practice there,

464
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: that it was well, you know, just uh, it hasn't

465
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: been throwing at all in front of the media. Now

466
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned something that I think is important. Uh, you

467
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: know a little bit of a to do list for

468
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: people out there. The IT band. Yeah, please work out

469
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: your IT band.

470
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: So go split it man, Go get that bad Boys split. Yeah.

471
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Speaker 5: Go.

472
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: It's that it goes from your hip all the way

473
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: down to the side of your knee. You gotta you

474
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: gotta work that IT ban. I didn't even know what

475
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: the IT band was. And then lo and behold, I'm

476
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: playing pickup basketball and my kneecap literally ran from my

477
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: body because my band was so tight that it just went.

478
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: And that was that. But as far as the Texans go,

479
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out and this year is going

480
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: to tell us everything whether or not they are c J.

481
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: Stroud as a rookie or CJ Stroud last year because

482
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: there was a big difference. That was not the same result.

483
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: Even though they went to the playoffs and they beat

484
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers and they went to the second round and

485
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: they were competitive, that was not the same c J.

486
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: Stroud and team that we got in year one of

487
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: him in the NFL. And I don't know if there's

488
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: such thing as a sophomore slump or whatever title they

489
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: want to put to it, but there was a lot

490
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: of turnover. I mean, the OC got fired. That was

491
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: an OC that people were looking at. He was interviewing

492
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: for head coaching jobs and the year before because of

493
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: how good c J. Stroud was as a rookie, and

494
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: Brady has pointed this out, you know, maybe the best

495
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: rookie season in the history of the league. And he's

496
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: fired a year later, you decide to move on from

497
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line coach because he was sacked and pressured

498
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: second most in the NFL, in the entire league. So

499
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: I just I wonder is he year one CJ. Stroud

500
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: or is he year two? And maybe this is just

501
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: sort of the precaution. We don't want him to deal

502
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: with anything going into the season. We're looking for full

503
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: health because he was playing banged up last year. Because

504
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: again he did take a beating.

505
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't as impressive, but nonetheless still impressive. And they

506
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: hit double digit wins and they won their division. They

507
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: still look like a competitive team, just didn't look as dangerous, right,

508
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: they looked dangerous c J. Stroud's rookie year like there

509
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: was something there, there was some magic there. CJ. Stroud's

510
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: rookie year. This past year, it was almost like the Steelers,

511
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: It's like they're getting to that winning record, but it's

512
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: it was quiet, and it was it was like wow,

513
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: like they're really leading their their division. Like wow, okay,

514
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: oh they won their division. I forgot all about that's crazy.

515
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: You know that's crazy. But you knew that it was

516
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: a two horse race.

517
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: You guys are still there. It really was.

518
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: Kind of a one horse race, right, Like could you

519
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: imagine running like the the Preakness or the Kentucky Derby

520
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: and and literally you knew that you were the one horse. Yeah, like,

521
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm the one horse that's going to run this race,

522
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: and there's other horses in the race, but I just

523
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: know that they're just not They're not going to run

524
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: at the level I run. And that was kind of Yeah,

525
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: that was kind of the year that they had. You know,

526
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: the Colts they were you know, they were kind of

527
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: you know, mid, they were mid. You know, the Jags

528
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: were some trash.

529
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

530
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: The Titans were some trash obviously, and we'll talk about

531
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: them pretty soon here, but you know, trash, trash division

532
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: a f C South which trash. But you know what,

533
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: the Texans still did what they needed to do. It

534
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: just wasn't and as to me, it wasn't as impressive

535
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: as you as you said, as it was his his

536
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: you know, c J. Stroud's rookie year.

537
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that is the uh, that's the update there.

538
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: We we wait to see whether or not c J.

539
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: Stroud is going to be slinging the ball at some point,

540
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: whether or not the media can see it. You mentioned

541
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. Calvin Ridley did say that, you know, uh,

542
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: cam Ward's got this effort mentality which you kind of

543
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: need as a quarterback.

544
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: And what type of mentality? What's it mean? Yeah, you know,

545
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: like ate it like like capture the voice and and.

546
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a curse word. I'll mute

547
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: my mic and say it.

548
00:31:53,800 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: Hold on one second, okay, okay, yeah, rams with bucket, Yes, Okay, Yeah, so.

549
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: He's got he's got that mentality, and that's I'm listen,

550
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: that's all great and all, and he's going to go

551
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: through some rookie growing pains and and that's that's fun

552
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: and everything. And then I look at Brian Callahan's situation,

553
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: the head coach there, and I go all of a sudden,

554
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, the people that hired him are not there.

555
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: You've got a brand new rookie quarterback, and I'm just

556
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: wondering if this is going to play out like we've

557
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: seen so many times in the NFL, where you draft

558
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback high. Maybe maybe not. The coach is kept around,

559
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: but from all accounts, it feels like maybe the clock

560
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 1: is ticking on Brian Callahan. And next thing you know,

561
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: that rookie quarterback is going into year two with a

562
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: brand new head coach and is already dealing with turnover.

563
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: We've seen it with Caleb Williams, We've seen it with

564
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 1: a bunch of other situations, and I can't help but

565
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: wonder if the effit mentality and the growing pains there

566
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: in Tennessee are going to end him ultimately costing Brian

567
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: Callahan his job. Because there's a new regime there, They've

568
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: probably already got eyes on what the future could look like.

569
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: If you if you're Tennessee and you achieved more than

570
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: you did last year with a rookie quarterback, say you

571
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: double your win total and you are a three win

572
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: team a year ago. If you're six and eleven, it

573
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: stands to reason Brian Callahan loses his job and the

574
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: way the NFL cycle goes Now cam Ward goes into

575
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: year two with a different head coach, and you're already

576
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: off with Jones.

577
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: Is Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson start next year for

578
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: the Colts?

579
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: I think Anthony m I. I'll say Daniel Jones.

580
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 2: You say Daniel Jones. Okay, knocks lock damn Okay. So

581
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: you got Daniel Jones, you got you got Trevor Lawrence,

582
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: you got C. J. Stroud, and now you have cam Ward.

583
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

584
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: If I'm if I'm Tennessee, with what what they have

585
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: in cam Ward and the potential of what they have

586
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: with him, I'm feeling pretty confident because, like I said,

587
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: it's it's been a one horse race. If you if

588
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: you ask me, it's been it's been a one horse race.

589
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: And to look at where this team currently is uh

590
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: I mean they can only go up, they can only

591
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: go up from from here, or they could potentially stay

592
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: right where they are. I do believe that cam Ward

593
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: is the type of talent that could actually make this

594
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: a better make this a better team moving forward. I mean,

595
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: I still feel like there's some holes they need to

596
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: fill on this team. Thereby no means where they need

597
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: to be in terms of personnel wise to in my

598
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: estimation be you know, maybe a super Bowl competitive team,

599
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: but they can be a competitive team in their division.

600
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, this is a very, if you ask me,

601
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: a super pivotal year for Trevor Lawrence. It's a super

602
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: pivotal year. Is he going to prove what he's worth

603
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: or is it going to just be you know what,

604
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is a pretty good, serviceable franchise quarterback in

605
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: the league. Same thing for the rest of them, right like,

606
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 2: what are you going to see? That means? CJ. Stroud,

607
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: It's a big year for him just to prove what

608
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: he needs to prove. And again the Colts, I mean

609
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: that one's up in the air, but they got a

610
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: lot to prove at that position too, So it at

611
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: least opens the door and gives cam Ward the opportunity

612
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: to actually be able to jump into the conversation with

613
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: a CJ. Stroud as a rookie. Just works out that way.

614
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 2: Not so much in the AFC North. We talk about

615
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: the other guys from the North that went to Cleveland.

616
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: They have a different situation. But this group right here,

617
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: this division, do you have the opportunity to actually climb

618
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,560
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00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Pitch swing on it.

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00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 7: Hit tips left back, those nemo still going back. This

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Speaker 2: Good more than everybody.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Jonah's good morning, LeVar guys.

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Speaker 3: In case you missed this, sixteen year old high school

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Speaker 3: sprinter out of California, Clara Adams from North Salina's High School.

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Speaker 3: She won the four hundred meters state final the other

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Speaker 3: day fifty three point twenty four seconds. The problem was

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Speaker 3: in her celebration. She ran over to her father and

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Speaker 3: coached on the side, and he gave her a small

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Speaker 3: fire extinguisher. She decided to run over near the track

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Speaker 3: and spray her feet in celebration as a tribute to

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Speaker 3: former US Olympic sprinter Maurice green Well. CIF officials took

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Speaker 3: offense to that and decided to strip her of her title.

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Speaker 3: She is given an emotional response, so has her father

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Speaker 3: in lieu of the decision.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the story. Mari's green oh Green weighed

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Speaker 2: in on it too. It was like, listen, if she

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Speaker 2: wasn't all up in people's faces with it, like you

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Speaker 2: could say she was being on sportsmen like and I

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Speaker 2: get that, but she didn't do it on the track.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not like one way or the other, like

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of tabit indifferent about it, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: like you show bowed it and you know, c if

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Speaker 2: they's some weird those yeah, they do weirds, So you

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Speaker 2: got to know what your audience is and that could

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Speaker 2: have happened. You know, they don't let you wear wristbands

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Speaker 2: above your your your wrist or your your elbows or

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Speaker 2: weird like drink like. They just they're weird those man.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, it's got to be aware.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting what's what's allowed to have happened in high

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Speaker 1: school sports in California? Like what isn't it's weird with

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Speaker 1: they pick and shoes and.

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Speaker 2: It act like she did it on the track, Jonas,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's not like she won

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Speaker 2: and immediately put her shoes out with an extinguisher in

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Speaker 2: front of all the other kids. She did it off

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Speaker 2: to the side on her own like Lisa. She had

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Speaker 2: to go get the extinguisher and then do it, so

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Speaker 2: it's kind of weird, man like, seems hateful,