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Speaker 1: reaction on the Pacers beating the Knicks to go up

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Speaker 1: two to zero in the series fourteen one oh nine.

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Speaker 1: You know, so interesting. I had Indiana's a better offensive team,

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Speaker 1: Like they shoot the three ball better consistently. Points come

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Speaker 1: easier for them. Some of it's Halliburton and some of

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Speaker 1: it's just their bigs, you know. Whereas Mitchell Robinson had

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Speaker 1: a great first half, he's not really an offensive player.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's a disaster at the free throw line.

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Speaker 1: It looks awful, the results are awful. Miles Turner is

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Speaker 1: hitting threes in the corner for the Pacers, a much

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Speaker 1: better offensive player than Mitchell Robinson. Karl Anthony Towns and

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Speaker 1: Say Oakham are both gifted offensive players. I love say

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Speaker 1: Oakham's game, but Carl Anthony Towns is a complete liability defensively.

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Speaker 1: So if you just take the bigs for the Pacers

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Speaker 1: and the bigs for the Knicks, to me, that's the

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Speaker 1: say Ockham, they're more balanced players to have. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just think about how good the Pacers are compared to

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Speaker 1: the Reggie Miller Pacers. Okay, the Reggie Miller Pacers. They

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Speaker 1: made documentaries about those teams. Reggie Miller could shoot and

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Speaker 1: it was a bunch of guys you didn't want near

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Speaker 1: just offense is easy for them. Halliburton in the first

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Speaker 1: There's a reason that the Pacers are such a clutch team.

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Speaker 1: They're great. The Nick slowed the pacedown tonight, so that

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Speaker 1: really played to the next style. But let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: You need Brunson to hit a lot of tough shots.

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Speaker 1: That's the New York Knicks offense. You need him to

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Speaker 1: on the pick and rolls, they're just working Cat. Cat's

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Speaker 1: This is a really good team. The Knicks are losing

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Speaker 1: and Sayakam is so good. He is so good. It's great.

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Speaker 1: against Brunson, Halliburton is. It's just he's just at times

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Speaker 1: But you know, the people that complain about the NBA

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Speaker 1: go back to those Knicks, Pacers, Spike Lee, you know,

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Speaker 1: now there are so many good players. What Biggs can

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Speaker 1: they're getting a great shot. They're getting a wide open

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Speaker 1: jumper from the corner. It could be Miles Turner, it

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Speaker 1: could be Nie Smith. You have to be so on

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Speaker 1: it defensively when you play Indiana because they are ready

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Speaker 1: to run at any opportunity, and if not, they're just

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Speaker 1: gonna move it. Everybody touches it and if you're not

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Speaker 1: zoned in, they get easy looks they are a pain

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Speaker 1: in the butt to face. Indiana's won six straight road

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Speaker 1: games for a reason. The volume