WEBVTT - Blake Sennett Meets World 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.720 Well, he looks so serious. I want to get into 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:32.959 this sem it's hung. Well, I've noticed you have so 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:36.040 many like shirts that just say phrases on them. It 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.000 feels like every time we do the podcast, I'm like, 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.159 what does that shirt say? What's this one? You're right now? 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.560 This one just says don't make me repeat myself history. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.800 Do you buy all your clothes on Facebook? There are 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.960 no I found this amazing website and so I've got 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:54.680 now a bunch of different T shirts for the pod. 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.040 The last one, you guys didn't see. It said you 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.280 might be cool, and then underneath there's a picture of 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.440 Teddy Rose riding a moose. It said, but you'll never 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.600 be Teddy Roosevelt riding a moose cool. So it's just 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.280 all those funky kinds. They're all based on history. It's 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:11.360 really fun. It's really if there's a great it's a 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.040 great one of um, it's Martin Luther. It's just a 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:15.880 picture of Martin Luther and just underneath it just says 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:20.399 nailed it. So again, it's all so good. I mean, 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:30.440 Will is everybody's father. Yeah, I love it. It's true. Okay, 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:35.200 so today's guest is somebody I have I've I've not 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:39.559 seen or talked to in probably what twenty seven years, 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.559 you guys, Yeah, since the graduation episode. Oh my gosh, okay, 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:49.480 so graduation episode was maybe yeah, yeah, but he was 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.640 brought back for that episode. So up until then we 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.760 hadn't really been working with him either. So I'm so excited. Well, 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.000 he is credited under the name Blake Soaper, our guest 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.960 today played Joey the rat Epstein for sixteen episodes of 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.360 Boy Meets World, one of the unforgettable new bullies we 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.040 just met in the first episode of season two, and 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.720 you may also know him from his work on Salute 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.440 Your Shorts, Third Rock from the Sun, or as a 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.480 member of the incredible band Rilo Kylie. He is now 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.280 producing and composing on his own, but most importantly, he's 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.440 decided to sit down with us for a trip down 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.040 the Boy Meets World memory lane. So let's please give 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:38.840 it up for Blake, senate. Yeah, you're doing man, It's 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.120 so good to see you. I know you guys are 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:48.120 old like me. It's the best. Yeah, it's kind of 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.160 the best period of my life right now. How about 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:54.880 you guys, yea, yeah, yeah, man, um, you guys are 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.680 by the way, like so good at this, like like 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.320 like I want to you know what, you should have 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:06.600 a radio show? What a show? But yeah, yeah, you 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.800 guys are you guys have been great? Thank you? Do 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.239 you have you actually listened to the pod? I have 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.160 only caught the Instagram like clips. When you guys have 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.920 like a clip, I'll learn things about the show. Like 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:24.200 it's like one said like Mr Turner was like unceremoniously 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.760 recently like released from the show, and I didn't even 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.359 know he. I had just assumed he was always on 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.760 the show. After now we're good in thirty second clips, 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:38.960 I was going to say, so you know for Instagram clips? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.840 And I guess I guess that answers another question, which is, 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.240 so after you left the show, did you you never 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:49.000 watched another episode of Boy Meets World. I'm gonna I 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.520 never watched another episode after I left the show, and 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.800 I never watched an episode that I know when I 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:59.800 was really didn't write Yeah. No, That's why this whole 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.720 thing so weird for me. It's like I'm finally seeing 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.480 the show and it's like I'm meeting the show for 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.839 the first time, and especially like the first season was 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.080 was like really nice and like super comforting because we 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.360 were like babies. But now that we're into the second 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.440 season when you guys come on, it feels like a 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.520 completely different show and it's so disoriented. Um yeah, I 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.440 really don't. I didn't. Yeah, I had no idea. I 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.000 had no idea what we were doing. I mean, I 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.880 think here's the thing. When you're doing multicam, you do 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.719 see it, right, you see the monitors and like it's 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.960 not like it's stylized, You're going to change from week 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.680 to week. Like really, so I kind of had a 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.040 good idea. You know, it's not like it's completely saying 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.720 you've seen one, you've seen them all right, that kind 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.920 of a little bit usually visually certainly that's the king 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.640 of TV over here. Wow, it was the king of TV. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.320 My life is basically television, not being on it, just 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:54.480 watching it. Yeah yeah, I mean wait, okay to what 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.640 you were saying, writer, like I kind of like agree, 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.040 Like like for a lot of us I think who 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:03.080 were like kids actors, Like being a kid actor was 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.600 like not necessarily in some cases like our idea. Yeah, 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.839 Like it wasn't my idea to do that, you know, 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.200 so I think every time I saw myself on TV, 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.000 I was like, oh my god, this is like what 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.520 it's like an imposter or I just didn't feel comfortable. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.560 It's kind of like hearing your voice recorded. It's like 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.040 a total bummer, you know. Always so so I think 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:27.599 I always like avoided seeing myself on TV. So yeah, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.520 I never wasn't. I didn't not watch a show because 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.200 I was like to sort of pretentious for that particular. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.880 It was the show. It was just anything I was 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.479 on was probably not something I was going to gravitate towards. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.320 I mean, I think even by that time in my 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.160 like sort of acting career, I had instructed my manager like, 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:48.320 and this was the case with Boys World, please only 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.440 send me out for like one liners, two liners, things 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.960 I can just bag because I really kind of want 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:55.960 the doll and I kind of don't you know what 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.720 I mean, Like that I didn't have I wasn't. I 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:00.960 didn't have like great aspiration since as an actor by 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.680 that time, you know, I think you've proven by this 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:07.120 point you were a musician. I mean that's you were acting. 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:08.880 Was like you're you had a great day job, but 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.560 you were a musician, you know. Man, I was I was. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.720 I mean, I think I still am, and I think 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.200 I probably still am like an actor in some respect, 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:21.679 and I'm other things beyond that, you know what I mean, Like, um, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.600 I think all of us aren't can't be necessarily contained 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.600 by like one. I think, um, I mean not to 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.360 get to like sort of woo woo here, but like 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.640 I think, you know, defining yourself by you know, how 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:35.320 you make dough or what you like to do is 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:40.400 probably um dated concept or right at this point. But 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.240 to the point you brought up about not being you know, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.400 getting into acting, wasn't your idea before we get into 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.400 you being Joey the rat on Boy Meats World? What 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.080 is your acting origin story? How old were you when 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.520 you started? Was it ten? And because everyone else for 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.760 every almost everyone's ten? Um, and yeah, what was your 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:06.039 story of acting? My origin story was that I was like, um, 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.280 a precocious you know kid like I spoke early and 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.640 I looked really young. I was always like a small kid. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.840 So um so I think we had a friend of 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:19.640 the family and she had a daughter in the business. Well, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.800 I grew up in San Diego and she she was 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.960 from l A And she came by and they asked her, Hey, 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:26.520 what do you think do you think he would like, 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.160 you know, thrive or do you think he'd have a 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.760 shot being an actor? Look, he looks you know, he's 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.240 he's he's ten, and he looks sick. So what do 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.560 you think? And she was like, oh, yeah, absolutely, and 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.360 I'll manage him. And so she kind of like took 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.760 me up to l A and instantly got me like 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.720 an agent and and um. And it was obviously like cool, 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:45.600 like it's not like I win in kicking and screaming. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.040 It was like an incredible thing to do in my life. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:49.960 I think only when I got a little like older, 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.800 I started to have like anxiety around like being on camera. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:54.800 And even with like Joey the Rat, I remember they 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.520 would give me like once in a while, they gave 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.400 me like a real long thing, you know, and I'd 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.960 be like, oh my god, I'm gonna forget to line. Um, 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.080 I don't know. Yeah man. So so that was my 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.320 origin story. I had just a family friend kind of 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.520 like took me and then I would sort of ride 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:13.080 the Amtrak train up to um up to l A 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.800 and and and go on auditions or or I'd take 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.640 a flight, or I'd get occasionally driven by a parent. Um, yeah, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.160 up to l A. And and by the time you 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:23.960 were on boy Me World, you were you were eighteen 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.760 right by that time. Yeah, and we're so were you 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.480 already you were living in l A. You'd like moved 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.360 up on your own. I was like living on my own, 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.800 and it was like this, yeah, yeah, where were you were? 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.880 Did you have roommates? I have no idea what you're living? 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.679 Situation was like no, I love these questions. Did you 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.480 have roommates or what? Like where were you living? What 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.640 were you doing? Okay, let me try and think of 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.680 the boy Me Like upon moving to l A. I 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.200 moved into like a really scary place down like Pico 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:55.600 and Hell, you know, and you know it was like 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.920 the donut store like got little fire when I was there, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.800 you know, during the riots, Like it was scary down there, 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.800 and it was like me and like six dudes. It 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.079 was like a hesher who was like a like, well, 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.120 let's say he was into substances and like, um, I 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.760 don't know what I'm gonna say, like, but I think 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.520 he smoked some crack. Yeah. Yeah. It was like an 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:21.120 intense um indoctrination. It was really terrifying because I tried college. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.600 That's sort of my deal. Like the parents was like 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.400 you can go to college or and continue acting, and 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.240 I chose college. And then I got to college and 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.080 I was like, oh, this sucks, Like this is way 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.599 worth than because it was just born or you just 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:37.640 weren't into it. Well, okay, by that time, you're already 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:39.880 you've made money in your life, right, so you're sort 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:44.960 of like in a sense like Lee progued that thing 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.640 where you have to get sort of go into a 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.480 sort of qudified system where you learned a trade and 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.679 then you go into the world and so on. Um. 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.920 I think it was that, And it was like I 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.840 wasn't probably like you know, when you're acting, whether my 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:07.080 passion was towards like theater or not. I think feeling 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.120 special was like cool. And as soon as I went 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.000 back into college, I was like suddenly mortal again, you know, 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.640 I like Superman took off his deal, I gave up 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.160 his powers. Um, so yeah, so that was like I 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.800 missed that, and I was like, I think I tried 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.960 out for the play was like University Colorado, Boulder, and 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.840 I tried out for the for the theater production and 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.960 I didn't get a part, and I think there was 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.360 a part of me and and that was like and 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.240 I think somebody was like, oh, freshman, never get parts, 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:41.199 and I was like, oh you man, I'm feeling I 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.760 was like fist. And at the same time, I was 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.440 going to no classes and probably flunking out and like 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.640 I just was never like the best like world's best students. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.959 So um so yeah, I went back and I moved 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.080 in with those that cast of characters. It was like 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:59.240 a band and like a film school student and me 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:03.520 and like six dudes in a two bedroom and man 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.959 and then yeah, man, I mean you know, like and 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.800 then by the time boy me world came around, I 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.040 think I was finally like living on my own. Like 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.840 you weren't at the oak Wood. No, I like, I 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.600 like went the other way in where you like move 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.200 into the like weird hollywoody area, Like I started Pico, 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.880 then I ended up like Orange and Hollywood Boulevard, where 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.480 like you know, like, oh, I'm like stars, Yeah you 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.880 seemed too cool for the oak Wood. No offense to 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.520 the people who lived at the oak Wood, but no, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.120 I was gonna say the same thing, Yeah, you moved 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.240 to the oak Woods. Because it's not cool. That's why 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:40.320 you go there, because it's safe, secure there with their moms. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.640 There's a store like you didn't have to leave that 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.120 kind of yeah, that's right, was perfect for Rider and I. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.200 But that I mean to Blake's point. That was the 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.480 thing that was so strange is you had such an 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.920 air when you came on the show of being so 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:57.040 much more advanced in life and more mature that until 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.760 I googled you again last night, I would have bet 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.800 all the money in my pockets that you were older 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.360 than me. And when I looked at it, I was like, 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.600 oh my god, we're essentially by less than three weeks, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.439 we're the same age. So you were so you seem 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.320 so established and so much cooler, and so the kind 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.320 of I've got my life on track that when I 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.320 met you, I would have guessed you were in that 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.840 I was eighteen and you were, so it was amazing 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.199 to kind of see that. I was like, oh my god, 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:24.840 we were the same age the entire time. Yeah, that 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.319 was you just had that air about you have. I've 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.200 been here for a while, I know what I'm doing. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.640 I've got this locked. Let me do the part I'm 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.280 supposed to do, then I'm gonna go out and hang 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.480 out with my friends. You just seem to have it together. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.520 So for for somebody like me who I guess was 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:38.920 your age and didn't know it, I was like, oh, 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.800 that's how I guess you're supposed to do it and didn't. Yeah, 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.240 it was straight. Yeah, maybe it was like a trial 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.040 by fire thing. Like I thought, like when I first 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.640 came to the show, you guys were like so wholesome 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.360 and sweet and kind and decent and like probably the 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.280 most like dark thing about you was like Rider's trench 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.360 coat and like his John keats under his arm, you know, 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.360 like you know, you know, like I mean, that was 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.960 the most like God, I was just for keets or 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.320 whatever whatever it was, the trench and I carried around 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:14.480 n I remember it. Yeah, I remember that. There was 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.520 like you know, you're sort of like you know, sort 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.840 of you know, yea brooding thank you, like this sort 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.760 of brooding poet. But like you guys were all so 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:27.160 kind and decent and like welcoming that I that I 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.520 actually almost like thought it was like disingenuous like that 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.160 that at the time, I was like, all these guys 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:36.000 are like they're like They're like it's total sacrain. So 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.319 it wasn't you know. I learned later as I went on, like, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.000 oh no, these guys are just like the nicest dudes 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.440 and like and even revisiting you guys like on the 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.600 like clips that I've seen of the podcast, I'm like, Wow, 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.840 these guys are like the same, super nice, like funny, decent, 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.960 you know what I mean, And like always thought Will 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.080 you were like so fast, like you were so funny 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:03.400 and so talented at like comedy the quickest, Yeah, and 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.000 I remember that, and then watching the podcast, I'm like, yeah, 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:18.920 that's that, dude. He's like, Yeah, it's so funny that 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.640 you mentioned that and that I'm so happy to hear 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.800 that that was your your perception of us, because we 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.480 have talked among ourselves about the fact that the way 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.880 we felt with you and Ethan was like those guys 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:36.160 are way too cool for us, Like they they don't 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:37.920 want to be here. They I don't think they really 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:45.800 like us. They think we're like, um, I don't know, children, children, Yeah, 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.160 which is so funny because it actually reflects the parts 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.280 you guys were playing on the show too, and like 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.000 I don't know how much that affected is like affected 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:55.760 our mindset because we're still kids, you know, I mean 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.120 I was fourteen or whatever, Like how much of it 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.280 was the roles you were playing, But also like you 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:04.000 guys just you were like I remember having conversations and 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.480 and good conversations and really looking up to you guys, 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.080 but feeling totally intimidated, like feeling like you guys were 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.320 just the coolest people I've ever met, and like that 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:16.200 you lived this like crazy l a existence that none 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.520 of us understood. That I just I wanted to be 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.960 a part of so bad, you know, like and by 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.480 the time when you guys left the show, I feel 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.320 like I kind of did venture into more of Like 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.240 if we had met when I when I was like eighteen, 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.440 I bet you we would have been instant friends. But 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.800 at the time, but fourteen, I was so intimidated by 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.920 you guys, but you were the definition of cool. I mean, 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:39.200 thank you. I mean it's funny, like I mean I 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.280 didn't feel very cool at the time, but like it's 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.920 funny like in reflecting, like obviously like one doesn't sit me, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.440 I don't. I haven't thought a lot about boy meats world. 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.080 And then in you know you guys, right and you 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.240 invited me to do this, and so you think about 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:55.720 it and then you watch a little of the clips 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.520 and you sort of it's sort of like, it's interesting 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.640 that you guys were in its sense, like this wholesome 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.520 bunch and writer you were a little bit like Emo 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.240 or whatever, and Sean was like a little bit right 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:12.480 sand and then like and then like Ethan and Danny 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:17.320 and myself and like um Adam Adam Scott. Yeah, we 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.480 all kind of had like a whiff of darkness about 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.240 us in like real life too, you know what I mean. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.240 And it kind of speaks to the brilliance of like 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.600 the casting and Michael Jacobs and like that he like 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:31.200 that they created this um this ecosystem that like reflected 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.760 our real true characters. Because I think even and I 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.240 were a little we did connect because we both had 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:41.440 that like a little whiff of darkness. Yeah. Yeah, well 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.720 you mentioned Michael, and I one of been looking up 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.200 some of the projects you had done before you got 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.080 to Boy Meets World. You had done Family Ties, which 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.800 we mentioned a ton on this shows, like you know, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.680 one of his favorite shows of all time. But then 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.240 you also appeared on My Two Dads for two episodes 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.080 in seven did you Is that where you first met 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.520 Michael And was there already a relationship with Michael before 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.520 you came onto Boy Meets World. Yeah, I think Michael 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.399 liked me or his cast and director whoever that was, 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:12.160 and Michael Barbie, Barbie Block and Sally Steiner. Yeah yeah, man, yeah, yeah, 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.120 I think he was always kind to me and always 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:19.600 like like brought me in and stuff. So um so yeah, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.000 I always felt real comfortable with him and and even 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.080 like I got really I don't know about you guys, 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.040 but I would always get really excited about those days. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.160 Remember there was like a day was maybe Thursday or 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.200 where Michael would come and sit and talk to everybody 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:35.000 about what was working, what was not. Mondays and Tuesday, yeah, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:36.920 after the run through, so we start we would start 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:38.639 our weeks on Fridays with the table read to a 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.640 light rehearsal, then Monday full day rehearsal and run through 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.439 that afternoon for the producers, then Tuesday rehearsal and and 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.440 then network run through and those after those um run 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:51.200 throughs is when we get those marathon note sessions. Yeah. Yeah, 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:52.840 and I always get excited, like I felt like I 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.160 was watching somebody I felt like I was watching like greatness, 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.240 Like I always got really excited to just watch him work. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:02.280 You know, yeah, those notes sessions are we we have 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.320 so many memories of those notes sessions, and some of 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.840 them I remember a similar feeling a lot of times 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.680 of just being like it felt like watching its own 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.760 show in a lot of ways. And you and I 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.919 do remember also feeling very much like I had an 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.960 understanding of what the script was, and then listening to 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.480 Michael talk about it, I'd be like, oh, there are 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:27.040 so many layers here that he's intending that I did 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.440 not pick up on, that we would discover um during 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:34.200 the note session. Do you remember your audition for Boy 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:39.280 Meats World? I do, I do, Yeah, I remember it. Um. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.320 I had done a character kind of like that on 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:46.800 like UM Wonder Years and I and it was Fred 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:51.919 Savage and I think I did two episodes there. And 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.320 I think when I read it again, like I was 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.360 probably in a period where I was like, well, how 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.359 do I Well, it's just where I was at. So 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:00.800 I was in a where I was just trying to 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.400 book stuff. I wasn't like going in like I need 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:07.359 to feel this, and I'm like I wanted to book it. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:08.720 So I was like, Okay, this is kind of a 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.080 this is a kitchy thing to New York accent, and 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:12.640 I think I just I don't know how I think 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.919 of My voice was kind of pitched higher, and I 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:20.680 think and and then um, yeah, I went in did 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.600 it for producers. I didn't go in for Sally or whatever. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.720 It was just straight to producers. And then I think 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:30.359 I booked it instantly. Um, and I think, you know, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.160 I think you guys know this, but it wasn't meant 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.160 to be recurring, you know. It was just a one 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:38.679 deal and that Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, so 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.360 we were just one episode and then they and then 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.280 they just I guess dug it or whatever. You know. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:45.920 I'm sorry, I can't get over so so far. I'm 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.639 I've just heard my two dads Family Ties one years. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.240 You've been on some of the most iconic sets in 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:57.600 the history of Terris. That's amazing totally. And hearing that you, 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:02.840 like I loved Family Ties so like, like Alex P. 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.399 Keaton to me is like part of the reason I 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.399 was like, oh, this is yeah, act exactly have you 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.240 seen Back to the Future like recently, it's oh, yeah, 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.640 it's right. It's only works because it's perfect, only works 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.760 because of his performance. Yeah, it's p I said the 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:20.760 same thing after I said it's perfect movie. It's perfect. 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:25.159 It's absolutely perfect. Yeah, so wonderful. So what do you 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.040 Immediately after getting the part, you're put in a little 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.840 gang with Danny McNulty and Ethan. Did you know either 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:35.000 one of them before starting Boy Meat's World or was 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.119 that your first introduction to them? That was my first introduction. 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:44.120 But Ethan and I became friends pretty quickly. Um, Ethan 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.000 had no we had. Ethan and I had a couple 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:51.120 of friends in common, but um, but I didn't know them, 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.680 but we became friends quickly. I mean, um, did you 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.960 starting off of set? Yeah, you had like after yeah 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:00.800 yeah yeah, yeah, totally to us, like you guys have 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:05.280 known each other forever. Yeah. I mean Ethan's like one 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.240 of those dudes. I mean he's gonna come on or 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.280 he has come on coming yet. Yeah. He just has 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.960