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Speaker 1: he is credited under the name Blake Soaper, our guest

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Speaker 1: ain't got no ears. You like, this is the funniest thing. Yeah,

427
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: that's amazing, Like that was like nostalgia. But it's hard

428
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: to believe that was me. It's kind of beautiful in

429
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: a way, like you were doing a real character work.

430
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 1: Were doing like a fool and ethan, like completely committed

431
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: to these pretty ridiculous characters, and you made them work.

432
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean they're iconic. It's so good, you made them hilarious.

433
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: I really do encourage you to go back and watch

434
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: some of your episodes because they're really good. You will

435
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: be so impressed with yourself. Yeah, cool, thanks, I will.

436
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: I mean, where do you This is weird? But like

437
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: is it just YouTube or like Disney Plus? Okay, we

438
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: have Disney Plus. We have Disney Plus, Great Disney Plus,

439
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World season two pop on? It was I

440
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: only in season two? No, I think also season three. Okay,

441
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: that kind of amazed me. Danielle when you at because

442
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: you know, we alread give an intro for for the

443
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: guests coming on when you said sixteen episodes, this is

444
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: another one where I would have guessed it was a

445
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 1: lot more because you, You, you loom so large. I

446
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 1: think in our collective memories of the show, you and

447
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: Ethan and Danny that when you hear you only did

448
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: sixteen episodes out of what the hundred and fifty eight

449
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: we did, I never would have guessed that. I would

450
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: have thought you were there for several seasons worth of

451
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: the show. I mean, in my head, you were. So

452
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 1: it's so strange you figure college took over. I mean,

453
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: that's the thing. We kind of forget that the last

454
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: three years of the show. We're out of high school

455
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: and we'll just keep reinventing himself. That's what we That's

456
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: what we find is that season one was one sitcom

457
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: into itself. We're now three episodes into season two, which

458
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: it's a completely different show, and that's going to continue. Yeah,

459
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna then We're gonna go to college. Is gonna

460
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: be totally different again. And so it's very strange. But yeah,

461
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: in our minds for some reason, why in my speaking

462
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: for me, in my mind, you you were there for

463
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: most of it. So it's so so we we said

464
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: that the same thing with Danielle for season one. It's

465
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: like no, You're in all the episodes. She's like, no,

466
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: I did like eight, Like wait what So it's um,

467
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: it's strange how your memory does that. We're we're looms

468
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: so large. I don't want, I don't mean to jump

469
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: ahead in your career, but I very briefly want to

470
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: tell a story because my arguably one of my single

471
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: favorite behind the scenes memories of Boy Meets Were involves

472
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: you by far, and I think about it often because

473
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: it was a really cool moment in my life. You

474
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: brought your guitar and Jenny Lewis visited you on the

475
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: set and we were in it was either my trailer,

476
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: your trailer, somebody's trailer. I want to say it was myself,

477
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: it was Ben Rider. I don't know if you were there,

478
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: Daniel was there. You were there and for an it

479
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: must have been an hour. You guys just played acoustic

480
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: for us, and it was one of the coolest days ever.

481
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: I can't even explain why it touched me so much,

482
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: but it was. It to the point where it got

483
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: me out of my house. I was a total introvert,

484
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: and like you said, there was a danger side which

485
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: I never had. The following week, I think I drove

486
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: to Spaceland, which is a club out here in Los Angeles,

487
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: to to hear musicians, and sat to watch you play

488
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: not anymore really, yeah, to watch you play because I

489
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: was so enthralled by this day of just listening. We

490
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: just sat there and listen. Nobody said a damn word

491
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: and you guys just played song after song and it

492
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. I don't even know if you remember that,

493
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: but it was such an artistically inspiring day for me.

494
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: For I mean, I have no musical talent whatsoever, but

495
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: just sitting there watching it happen in front of me

496
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: was truly amazing. It's something I think about often. So

497
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: you know, you never know when you do something that's

498
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 1: so par for the course for you but really touches

499
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: somebody else. And so I just want to thank you

500
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: for that. It was you guys shared that with us

501
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: for for like an hour, and it was it was

502
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: really unbelievable. So it was so blake. Maybe you should

503
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: do something with the music maybe that maybe I don't

504
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: know it it was really it was really amazing for me.

505
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was that was a great day. Thanks

506
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: well that Yeah, that was a cool time for me

507
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: and like my life too, Like Jenny and I were

508
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: so you know, NonStop um doing that. So, um, that's cool, man,

509
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: what an honor? Like I think in a sense that's

510
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: like that's like what life is eased of is these

511
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: like poignant moments you like remember and and I think

512
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: I think that's like one thing that's like really cool

513
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: about what you guys are doing because I think so

514
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: many kids grew up with your show or this show

515
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: where whatever our show. I don't know, um our show, yeah, sure,

516
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: our show. Yeah, this thing that we contributed to who

517
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: are like they feel connected to what what um that show?

518
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: And to see you guys go through it and have

519
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: a personal experience, you know, acting I stopped acting, um

520
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: for music, did that for a while, right lo Kylie.

521
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: Then we stopped doing ray Kylie. I did another band

522
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: that was on Atlantic, and then um, after that, I

523
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: moved to Nashville, so um, so I was there and

524
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: in Nashville, Um, we were living at a baby and

525
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: then sort of COVID comes a long and sort of

526
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: acts as sort of a stringent or an antibiotic for

527
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: anything in your life that maybe isn't bringing more pleasure

528
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: or more worth than it is pain, and I think

529
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: music started to fall under that umbrella, you know. And

530
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: I thought i'd experience experiment with what would life look

531
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: like if I wasn't like a musician anymore? And and

532
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 1: I made a record first, and who knows. You know,

533
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: life has a way of sort of oscillating. Just when

534
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: you say I'm not a musician anymore, things come back

535
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, I don't necessarily, Um, I didn't walk

536
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: away from music with any anguish or or or resentment,

537
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: just like okay, like let's try and not that now.

538
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: Um and um, so you probably want to know what

539
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: I do for money, right, for a living or is

540
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: that I'd like to know the same about you guys. Um? Um,

541
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: So I kind of got into like a real estate

542
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: stuff and I'm a landlord. I owned some commercial buildings

543
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: and um, what's my wife? And I flipped the occasional

544
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: house and um and um yeah, so we have like

545
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: rents and then it's kind of like my band with

546
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: my wife, So we buy a house, will make it

547
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: beautiful and selling it feels like being in a band.

548
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: We get to talk and huddle up and be creative. Right, yeah,

549
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: are you then, Nashville Marsden, you ever see Jason Marsden.

550
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: He reached out when I first moved there, but and

551
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: he was such a nice guy always. But no, we

552
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: never we never saw each other. Yeah, we never saw

553
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: each other. Would you ever consider acting again? Yeah, man,

554
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: of course I would. I mean, I mean, I think

555
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: when I was like in that band Night Terrors, someone

556
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: came from Girl Meets World or whatever and said, hey,

557
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: there's this job for uh the janitor. Would you you know,

558
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: I think Danny ended up doing it, and she said

559
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: you would you do it? And I was like, I'm

560
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: kind of in this band right and she was like, yeah,

561
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: so great, would you do it? And I was like,

562
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: I know, because I'm We're going on tour and it's

563
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: just you know whatever. But at the time, like there

564
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: was a part of me that like sort of seemed um,

565
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: that seemed like appealing. I don't know, I think life

566
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: is so short, you know, like why not try stuff

567
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: that scares you? And and of course, like I think

568
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: I've always been a creative above all else. I think,

569
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, um, I can relate with what you said.

570
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: Will I think there were times where like anxiety came

571
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: into like acting for me. But yeah, I think I

572
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: do it again. Yeah, why not if if somehow the

573
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: call rose? Yeah, So a question, how old is your

574
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: daughter gonna have to be before you start her on

575
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: boy Meats World? Oh my god, I mean she's four

576
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: and you just said you guys just told me I

577
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: can watch it on Disney Plus and I should. And

578
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: my first thought was, oh, I gotta show Tuesday. That's

579
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: my daughter's name, and I like and and I was like,

580
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: that was my first She probably won't give it, you

581
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like, she probably like, Okay, that's weird?

582
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Is that even you? I don't know. So we're going

583
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: to have Danny McNulty on soon and so we will

584
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: talk to him about his experience and and all of that.

585
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: But I do want to know what was your what

586
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: is your memory of the time period where Danny left

587
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: the show and then Adam Scott was brought in and

588
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: now you guys had this like new leader of the pack?

589
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: What are what were what are your memories of that

590
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: experience and what was that like for you? Um? Well,

591
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: my experience with that was like I was hanging out

592
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: with Ethan and Danny separately as friends, and I remember

593
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: going to Danny's house one night and he started to

594
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: we're drinking red wine, and he started to like talk

595
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: about some stuff that seemed like a little heavy, not

596
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: heavy or not based in sort of like this plane

597
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: of you know, sort of reality or whatever, um, you know.

598
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: And so I think I was like, oh, Danny's trippy,

599
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: like you know, like like you know, because that's what

600
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: I thought. Oh, he's kind of out there. Maybe he

601
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: takes a lot of acid, you know what I mean.

602
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know what we're going on. He just seemed

603
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: And then I think there was an episode that Danny

604
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: and Ethan were in and I wasn't in, and Ethan

605
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: called me, He's like, yo, bro, the table or or

606
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: I didn't come to the table read something, because I

607
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: think I came like the next day. Maybe that's what happened.

608
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: They excused Danny from it and brought me in to

609
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: take because Ethan couldn't be alone, and and I was like,

610
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, and and Ethan was like,

611
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: Danny at the table read right, started to have some

612
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: kind of episode, and right, yeah, but dude, I remember

613
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: you being there. I remember you being at the table.

614
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: I remember you kind of helping him. Yeah, you helped

615
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: him you pointed him out to the script where to be,

616
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: and I remember seeing you because remember and you like

617
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: picked it up and you put it there, and you

618
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: were like right here, man, right here, and you were

619
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: like helping him along. And I remember as a kid,

620
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: we were just like, what is happening? I remember now.

621
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: So there was something that Ethan told me about that

622
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: either predated that or right after that. Ye, yeah, totally,

623
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I remember him leaving and then there

624
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: was like one and it was kind of weird. It

625
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: was like psychologics sudden. Yeah, and at that stage of

626
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: my life maybe like you guys hadn't experienced that. That

627
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: was like, no, he got to go get some help

628
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, So I was like, oh, should we

629
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: visit him? And like I think Ethan went visited him

630
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: and and which is very that's Ethan, you know, it's

631
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: so sweet. Um and um. And then they brought in

632
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: some other guy for one episode. Yet they brought in

633
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: one the other guy hard. I think they changed it

634
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: to Harvey or something ridiculous like that. I think they

635
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: might have just changed like one letter, but kept just

636
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: brought in a guy for to just do exactly the same.

637
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: That was the motorcycle episode. Righthere're supposed to up the

638
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: motorcycle and it's likely so we're supposed to not notice.

639
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: It's just another dude, just like what really, we're just

640
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: supposed to not pick that up. You're not gonna change

641
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: the television man. Now, this is a different guy playing

642
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: exactly the same role. It was really weird. It was weird.

643
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: It was weird, and it was like, okay, don't ask,

644
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: you know, don't nobody saying anything. Yeah, nobody looked behind

645
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: the curtain. Nobody looked behind the cart. And then they

646
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: brought in Adam Scott. And it was interesting because like

647
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: Ethan As I recall, boy mean's what was his very

648
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: first job, like ever ever ever, like Taft Hartley, like

649
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: newest and I remember yeah talking to him being like

650
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: hey man, so this is how it works, this is

651
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: what you do, lunches at this and then Adam Scott,

652
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: I think, same thing where it was very first thing

653
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: ever and like the same thing where so there was

654
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: like these two guys now that we're sort of green

655
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: and I was the sort of veteran or something, the

656
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: old pro yeah, but Adam was like, you know, he

657
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: had that whip of darkness or whatever, and he was

658
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: real kind of sarcasting, had a funny sense of humor.

659
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: And that's why he never made it. That's why he

660
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: never made it any lack of talent. Yeah, So I

661
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: remember hanging with those dudes a lot, Ethan and Adam. Um. Yeah,

662
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, man like it was a good spot

663
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: to meet friends, apparently for me. I don't you know, um,

664
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was great. I was sad when me

665
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: and Ethan no longer you know what I mean, we're there,

666
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, how did you find out? You like, what

667
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: was the I don't we don't remember because we haven't

668
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: watched the show. I don't remember what your exit from

669
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: the show was. Do you remember what your last episodes

670
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: were or when you found out you weren't going to

671
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: be returning. So Ethan and I in like hiatus after

672
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: sort of sort of towards what what would end up

673
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: being the end of our tenure. Ethan and I saw

674
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: the next season coming, and we thought we should write

675
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: a script. Let's write a script and it will be

676
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: the first episode. It'll be the first episode of the

677
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: next season. So me and Ethan work on this script

678
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: and we write like half of it and then we

679
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: write like a treatment for all this scenes to follow

680
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: up with some pilot skeleton with like jokes and like

681
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: we you know, we had like a name for it,

682
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: and the whole concept was like Catcher in the Rye, Right,

683
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: they're studying Catcher in the Rye, but also like Sean

684
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: or Corey I can't remember which feels like holding Caulfield.

685
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: He feels kind of crazy. And so we had this

686
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: whole like fun idea for this Catcher in the Yeah,

687
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: we thought so. Um, so we went in and we

688
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: like made a meeting. We pitched it to like Michael

689
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: and like all the right good, Yeah, it was a trip. Well,

690
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: so we went in and we pitched the script and

691
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: they said, okay, that's a great idea. We love the script.

692
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: I don't know that we're gonna, you know, buy it,

693
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: but we've come here to tell you today that we're

694
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: gonna offer you contracts and make you guys official to

695
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: the show. Guys are going to be like not regulars,

696
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: but you're gonna be like but more than you had

697
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: in the past, and they have your own storylines and

698
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: all this stuff. And um, I mean Ethan, like we

699
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: left meeting high five. Oh my god, how fun this

700
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: is going to be so great? Um and never darken

701
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: the door that plays again. That was that was it.

702
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: We never heard from the beginning. We never came back, Yeah, Hollywood.

703
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think my impression was not that they sca.

704
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't think they were like, oh my god, how

705
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: dare they let's like I think I think that show

706
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: just had these hard elbows in it. What I mean,

707
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: like like you would lose like the little girl or

708
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: a little boy right in the first see just poof

709
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: just gone, a sibling just gone. Like I think that

710
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: show just kind of did that. And I think that's

711
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: what happened. Is the day we were there, the latest

712
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: great idea was like the police should have more of

713
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: a presence, and then somebody had a better idea, so

714
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: that was it. We just never heard from anybody again

715
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: until there was like a graduation episode yea three years later,

716
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: and then we kind of came back. And because we

717
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: talked about how they never told us anything ever, it

718
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: was we would show up on set and somebody wasn't there,

719
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: or somebody knew would show up, or somebody we were

720
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: just never told anything. And we also had very much

721
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: a similar feeling to the way you described the Danny situation,

722
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, jn't ask anything. We also had

723
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of like, if we're supposed to know it,

724
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: someone will tell us. If no one tells us anything,

725
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: we are just not supposed to know. Yeah, you can

726
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: also get away with a lot more when you didn't binge,

727
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: when there are breaks between seasons and you had months off,

728
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: you could make it seem new when you came back,

729
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: as opposed to Hey, I'm watching thirty seven episodes in

730
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: a roaw tonight. Okay, Wow, there's a new little sister.

731
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's different now than it was then,

732
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: but still it's just it's one of those things where

733
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: again being being a television addict, Frankie and Joey are

734
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: such awesome television tropes. I mean, it's Lenny and Wiggy,

735
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: It's I mean, these are these are favorite This is

736
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: These are famous television characters that are being brought onto

737
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: the show essentially in a new light, and they could

738
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: so easily slip into the awful cartoony this is gonna

739
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: last an episode because there is no depth. They're just

740
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: the terrible kind of come in say a line and

741
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: leave and again a tribute to you and and um

742
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: Ethan where it wasn't that. I mean, you guys started

743
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: to get your own storylines and started to get you.

744
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: We learned about you know, Frankie's family and all that.

745
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that easily could have so been a

746
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: one episode exactly we're talking about. We came in for

747
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: one episode, we said some funny things in the hallway,

748
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: and then you're gone. But you get the chemistry was

749
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: just so right that it was like, how do we

750
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: not pivot to writing to these people? So yeah, it

751
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: was it was great, Yeah, yeah, it was yeah. Thanks.

752
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean it sort of just felt at the time

753
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: like you know, it's funny like we look back and

754
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: we can sort of like savor it, But at the

755
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: time it felt so like, you know, we were on

756
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: sort of you know, if it's basketball, we're on a

757
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: ten day you know, like we were not signed for

758
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: any more than the episode we were doing at the time,

759
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: So there was always this feeling like, okay, you better

760
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: do good. Um yes, But like looking back, you know,

761
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: I wish in a sense like hearing you guys say,

762
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: oh you thought we were so cool, it's funny because

763
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: like I didn't feel like that was the case. I

764
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: felt like we were sech like we were lower casts

765
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: sort of people. You know, we were guest stars or whatever. Um,

766
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: it's it's funny yet to hear that later, I mean,

767
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't sort of. I mean, I don't remember walking,

768
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, skulking around thinking you know, I'm you know,

769
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, lower lower class citizen. But but I mean,

770
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: it was just nice to hear hear from your guys perspective. Um,

771
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: and it was super fun, like you know, yeah, yeah

772
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: it was. It was cool and it was it was

773
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: also like one of those things that made me okay,

774
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: it was super cool, and it was also simultaneously one

775
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: of seeing how you guys all interacted the like grace

776
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: and like ease at least that's my perception with with

777
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: which you guys like approached each day. And you guys

778
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: were so young, made me feel like, oh, I better

779
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: quit this job. I can't do Like I am like emo,

780
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: I am troubled. I have issues, you know what I mean,

781
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: Like I have sink. Like these guys are just like

782
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: sailing through this. These guys are like twelve and they

783
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: act like their thirty five and Will somehow like this

784
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: like comic genius whirling around and meanwhile you like sort

785
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: of learned that like maybe Will, you were having some

786
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: kind of like panic and you know what I mean,

787
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: and you know, like it's just cool to like humanize

788
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: it all like later it's like really beautiful and sort

789
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: of well, that's one of the things you started when

790
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: we started talking, you mentioned that, and we we all

791
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: talked about this all the time, where we love the

792
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: ages that we are and we love getting older, and

793
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons is because of that

794
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about, where you start to realize

795
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: that everybody is has their own issues, everybody is going

796
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: through their own thing, everybody, you know, and you're looking

797
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: at somebody saying, man, that person's life is perfect. It's not.

798
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as the perfect life. Everyone's going

799
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: through their own thing. And just because we grew up

800
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: in an industry where people got to watch us grow up,

801
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean we're not all real people going through things.

802
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: So we're always our own harshest critics. And you know,

803
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: you're looking at you know, I was looking at you

804
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: the entire time, going, man, that's God. He's got all

805
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: these cool friends and he's a musician and he just

806
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: walked onto the set and he owned the thing. And

807
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm going home by myself and I'm you know, taking

808
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: long showers because they calm me down. And it's so

809
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: you and you were at the the time. We're like,

810
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: I can't do this there. Look at how put together

811
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: they are and I'm going through. So it's just again,

812
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: I love the age I am because you get to

813
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: look back and kind of say, yeah, we're all people

814
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: and going through what we go through, and we've all

815
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: earned the gray that we've got, which we can all

816
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: see on our zoom like Somebody, which again is due

817
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: to beef by Danielle Fischel. You're checked in the mail,

818
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Like do you have any favorite

819
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: behind the scenes memories or just any favorite memories from

820
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: being on set? Will shared one of his um, do

821
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: you have any oh Man favorite behind the scenes memories?

822
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: I think like me and Ethan used to whenever we

823
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: would get there in the morning, we would like, um,

824
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: tableweed and then we boom. He'd be in my trailer

825
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: or I'd be in his, and we always had a

826
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: like we often had like books and they were always

827
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: sort of like, you know, mine was sort of like

828
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: Jon Fonte and his was like market assad. They were

829
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: like insanely not And I think that little like brotherhood

830
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: where we'd sit and like tell each other about our

831
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: book and music and just talk and talk philosophy. And

832
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: I think we were cool and you know what I mean,

833
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: think we were as as deep as you know the

834
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: books were reading. UM. It was like just kind of

835
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: kind of beautiful. You know, it was like it was

836
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: like a really special thing, you know. I don't know, Yeah,

837
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's still talk not really no, but

838
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: not no rift. I mean, I think geography has a

839
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: lot to do with that. When we moved to UM

840
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: Nashville five years ago, I think we were like, okay,

841
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: you you're gonna when you draw, geography changes like you

842
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: checking him with your l A people is probably more

843
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: of like a UM, like a four or five friend thing.

844
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: Hopefully probably not going to keep all of them. But

845
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: I think if I called him or texted him, he'd

846
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: be quick to respond. You know, I have one more

847
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: question for you, And because this is so fun, I'm

848
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: only assuming I'm taking up too much of your time,

849
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: Like no, no, I had to ask this question because

850
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: when we had Adam Scott on, he told the story

851
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: that none of us remembered. Has already been on Adam. Yes,

852
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: Adam has come on the show, and he told us

853
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: about his experiences and what he remembers and how he

854
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: got the part, and um, you, it's actually saying that

855
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: we all seemed very saccharin and sweet. His perspective was

856
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: his perception of us was a little bit like, oh,

857
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: they're like, we're not allowed to talk to them, like

858
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: they're they're the stars of the show. We're supposed to

859
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: keep our distance. So he and he did feel very

860
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: taken in by you and Ethan, like you guys were

861
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: very warm and welcoming and made him feel comfortable, and

862
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 1: he talked about the fact that he was very green

863
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: and didn't really know what was going on and that

864
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: you helped guide him and all that. But he told

865
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: a story that none of us remembered, and it has

866
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: been eating away at him. He hadn't shared it with anybody.

867
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: He had just recently started telling the story to like

868
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: people in his inner circle. And the story is that

869
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, there was like we

870
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: taped the last scene and It was this big celebration

871
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: of that's it, that's a rap end of the end

872
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: of the season, and everybody was like high fiving and hugging,

873
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: and you and Ethan both hugged Writer, and so Adam,

874
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: who was standing there and didn't know Writer as well.

875
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: Adam like just turned and gave Writer this hug, and

876
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: Writer hugged him and then kind of out of nowhere,

877
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: shoved Adam away and looked at him like dude, and

878
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: then ran away and then walked off like no recollection

879
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: of this whatsoever, No idea what he's talking about now?

880
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: I knowing writer the way we no writer. Absolutely, something

881
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: else was going on there, like Writer is a very

882
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: huggy person. It is not. It is not just that

883
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: Adam hugged writer, and Writer didn't feel like he knew

884
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: him well enough to get a hug. Like something else.

885
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: Writer just lost power. I can talk about him, good,

886
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: We'll talk about him now. What do you really think

887
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: a writer? Blake? Yeah, go for it. Look, do you

888
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: see the cool the cool side of town infrastructure exactly exact,

889
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: exactly exactly so we remember and we didn't really talk

890
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: about it a lot, but you and Ethan used to

891
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: kind of like play pranks like you guys would like

892
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, I was wondering if you have any memory

893
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: of this hug or of this exchange, because one of

894
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: the things I thought may have happened is like when

895
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: Adam went to go hug writer, you like, grabbed Writer's

896
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 1: butt or did something that that maybe made Writer think

897
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: Adam had done something, because I have memories of you

898
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: guys like basically being kind of sneaky, but in a

899
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: fun way, not sneaky in a in a bad way,

900
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: just like pulling, pulling little pranks. Do you have memories

901
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: about at all? I think Ethan and I probably, like

902
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: I mentioned before, sort of this well the width of

903
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: darkness would go back to you know, I think that

904
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: I probably played pranks. I doubt we would have played

905
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: them on rock, like I wouldn't have grabbed riders, but

906
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: at that time because or you know what I mean,

907
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: You know I would have done that to Ethan. But

908
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: like I think what Adams said, I can relate with

909
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: around you guys feeling a little bit like the you

910
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: guys were like the royals and we were Now this

911
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: wasn't coming from you, but in general, you probably didn't

912
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: want to go like goose, you know, thirteen year old

913
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: ride or whatever. You know, that was probably not you know,

914
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: probably a good rule of thumb, not to year old. Yeah,

915
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: so I don't know, man, I don't remember that, but

916
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Maybe like John Keats was just hitting with

917
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: too hard that day. I don't, I don't, I don't know. Yeah,

918
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: I don't have a memory of that. Let's just do

919
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: another hour on making fun of riders. Since his powers out,

920
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: I was asking Blake if he had any sort of

921
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: memory of him and Ethan playing like I mean, I

922
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: guess pranks is not really the right word, but I

923
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: wanted to hear from your perspective, like what we talked

924
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: about whether or not maybe Blake or Ethan did something

925
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: like grabbed your butt or something that made it seem

926
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: like Adam had maybe done that in order to get

927
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: you to have that reaction. Um, And Blake said he

928
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: didn't think he would have done anything like that because

929
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: he would have felt like he couldn't have done that.

930
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: But I wanted to know if that is, like, what

931
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: are your no, I remember Blake doing it like that

932
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: all the time. When she was saying it the second time,

933
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: I thought, actually that would have been a good time. Yes,

934
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: there was some I feel like you guys were always

935
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: doing bits like that, Like there was all like you

936
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: were always like part of like why it was hard

937
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: to keep up with you guys, or why I felt young,

938
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: was that you were always doing They would layers of

939
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: jokes and like there was a level of sarcasm that

940
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: I just did not have, Like I had no irony

941
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: in my life whatsoever. I was like the most earnest

942
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: fourteen year old fourteen through sixteen year old ever And

943
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: I remember you guys kind of taking advantage like and

944
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: I also remember no in a loving way, like I

945
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: always felt like you guys liked me. I just never

946
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: felt cool enough to keep up with like the layers

947
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: of jokes that were going on like you guys. I

948
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys already discussed this, but Adam

949
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: told the story of how he told you guys, like

950
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: a really really dirty joke, and your response was, Uh,

951
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: you should tell that to Tony Quinn. He loves dirty jokes. Yeah, Yes,

952
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: Adam went and told like the dirtiest joke possible to

953
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: Tony Quinn and you guys just let him week on

954
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: this and just let him out there left him to

955
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: drive Hong about to drive. So like I have a feeling,

956
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: like I remember you guys used to like grab our

957
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: knees all the time. Do you do horsebreads corn and

958
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: like squeeze our yes, sure, Like I feel like something

959
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: was going on behind the scenes when Adam hugged me

960
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: that because there was no reason I would have like

961
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: shoved him away, But I have a feeling something was

962
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: going I was either part of some bit I was

963
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: doing with you guys is or I have no idea

964
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: like yeah, maybe the picture asked or something when um, yeah,

965
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: it's possible, it's possible, and like it's true, Blake, I

966
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: want to know. I want to know about how, how

967
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: and when you stopped acting and and then I think

968
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: it seems to coincide with the name change, Like I'm

969
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: curious about how that all went down, like how conscious

970
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: was it and how much of it was just sort

971
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: of a slow fade, because like I know, like I say, oh,

972
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: I quit acting, but the truth was, it was like

973
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: this slow dissolved. You know, It's like the audition stopped happening,

974
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: or I started doing projects I really hated, and I

975
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: found myself more and more unhappy and like in bad situations.

976
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: Since then, it was finally like no, no, no no, I'm

977
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: officially done. Was like a hard line. I finally had

978
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: a draw. But it took a while, you know. So

979
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: I'm curious about how that happened or like when Ryan

980
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 1: o'ciglie came up. Is that when it happened, or what's

981
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: the story there. I think I had had during my

982
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: time as an actor. I think I was struggling with

983
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: some substance stuff and that stuff came to a head,

984
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: let's say, and um, well I almost died, like so,

985
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: so I sort of got like, you know, brought back

986
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: to life and on upon this, I um, I I

987
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: sort of came to so to speak, the next day

988
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, well I got it, figure something

989
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: else out. So I was able, you know, with the

990
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: help of of um things that are at our disposal

991
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: of these days, I was able to to to get

992
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: help and and with that near death stuff, especially at

993
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: sort of like your own at least that's the way

994
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: I saw it at the time your own hand. I

995
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: think I I felt like a reassessment was in order,

996
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I really don't I

997
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: love acting, And at the time. I loved music. That's

998
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: all I thought about, It's all I wanted to do.

999
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: So I just decided that if I were to try

1000
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: to act and do music simultaneously, that I wasn't going

1001
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: to succeed at music. That that just wasn't gonna happen.

1002
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Whether it's like knowing that the safety net was there

1003
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: or um, not having a focus. You know, I'm a

1004
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: pretty I can be pretty obsessive in my work, and

1005
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: and so I decided I was, um, gonna just do that.

1006
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: So I called sort of my mom and said, hey,

1007
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, this is what's going on. Also, I'm quitting

1008
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: acting and going to music. And she's like, that's not

1009
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: a great idea, but okay, And you know, and it

1010
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: wasn't a scary scary for mom, And it was probably

1011
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: a terrible idea on paper. If my kid said that

1012
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: to me, I'd be like, what are you doing? Like,

1013
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, hard it is to get as far as

1014
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: you've gotten, um um. And perhaps had I been doing

1015
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: like you know, had I been doing Scorsese movies, I

1016
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: would have felt differently. Um, But you know what I mean,

1017
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: because I did have a pretense about me what you

1018
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean? A little or or that feeling like, um,

1019
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know, do something meaningful. I think

1020
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: later I've learned that doing something meaningful it doesn't necessarily

1021
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: have to do with your work, you know. Um. It

1022
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: can be meditation, it can be kindness, it can be learning,

1023
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: it can be parenting. You know, those are the things

1024
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: that I've almost felt most meaningful in my life. Um So, yeah,

1025
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: that's what happened. I abruptly decided I wasn't gonna act

1026
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 1: anymore and and and went full head first into music.

1027
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: And I called Jenny and I said, Okay, there's this

1028
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: thing we've been sort of putting off and and I

1029
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: think we should. Uh you know, I'm going to go

1030
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: into music. That's what I'm going to do. Would you

1031
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: come and sing some backups? That'd be great? And she

1032
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: said no, I want to sing lead. And I was like,

1033
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: okay then, And that's what happened. We just started, you know,

1034
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: That's how I remember it, and I worked. Yeah, yeah,

1035
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: it worked out. It was great. It was really really

1036
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: some incredible times in my life. Um, we're touring in

1037
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,479
Speaker 1: that band, and you know, touring with like Modest Mouse

1038
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: and Bright Eyes and us. I mean that's like just

1039
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: for me, like the coolest you know, European tour or

1040
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: whatever it was. Um playing like Madison Square Garden with

1041
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, like all those things are like like it's

1042
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: funny like when you're doing them, and I don't know

1043
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: if you guys related to this, but like when you're

1044
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: doing them, you think like, well, I'm doing this, but

1045
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: I really want to get think always that's never ends, right,

1046
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: that never ends, Like yeah, I mean I think it can.

1047
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: If with I think it can, but not at that

1048
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: age it couldn't. Um So, so looking back, yeah, it's like,

1049
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, I've like the coolest like photo library

1050
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: in the world, you know what I mean. Once I

1051
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: feel that way, I think I think I work on

1052
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: that now though the like, yes, the craving that that

1053
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: oh god, misery. All I have a million bucks, I

1054
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: need to I need ten whatever. It might be money

1055
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: or not as easy as it's supposed easy to express

1056
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: in money. Um in this moment for me, umah, maybe

1057
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: I can. I definitely feel like jelly bellies too, though,

1058
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Um yeah, it's going like no,

1059
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: I feel like craving that friction, that course feeling, you know,

1060
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: not to get to, um, you know, a nice n

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00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: inn over here. But you know, like you know, just

1062
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: like Okay, it's cool, this is it, this is this

1063
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: is is this is cool, this is good. Well, we've

1064
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: talked about it a lot on the show, the like

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00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: burnout that you can feel, especially when you've started as

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00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: a child, like as a child actor. And do you

1067
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: think I know, you know, we talked about you mentioned

1068
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: the substance abuse issues that led to near death. Um,

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00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: do you think like, were you burnt out before you

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00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: got to that point? Do you think you were experiencing

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00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: a certain amount of acting burnout that led to that

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00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: or do you think that burnout helped lead you to

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00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: even acting. Well, maybe burnout shows up for everybody a

1074
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: little differently. For me, I think, yeah, some burnout. I

1075
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: think the burnout was like that that lack of control,

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00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, and always feeling like, oh my god, I'm

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00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: like walking on a tight rope and I'm just when

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00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: am I ever going to not feel so like? Um

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00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: that and I hated driving across town to like Abbot

1080
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: Kinney to like try out for stuff, you know what

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00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: I mean? I like that part too, you know, like

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00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: and um, and yeah, I think I had. I think

1083
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: I had probably some burnout around that, wanting to just

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00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: feel normal or something, wanting to feel some sense of

1085
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: control or ownership over what I did with my day,

1086
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: you know. And do you feel like you have that now? Definitely?

1087
00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Definitely yeah. Yeah. I'm like going to you know, Italy

1088
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: for two weeks and you know what I mean or whatever,

1089
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: and I'm like bringing my daughter and my wife and

1090
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: my mom and like, yeah, yeah, yeah I do, man,

1091
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: I do. I mean there's always something you know right

1092
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: to me. It's almost like the psyche spiritual like whatever.

1093
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: This work is my favorite stuff now, you know. Yeah,

1094
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: it's good for you. Man. I'm so excited that we

1095
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: were able to reconnect with you. Thank you for agreeing

1096
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: to do this with us, Thank you for taking time

1097
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 1: out of your day. Of course, you guys are so

1098
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: nice and cool and like when I first writer wrote me,

1099
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: my feeling was like, oh, I want to you know,

1100
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: I want to support like I want of course, I

1101
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: want to contribute. And now being here, I'm like, wow,

1102
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: I got so much out of this, Like, yeah, I'm

1103
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: glad you figured then, what twenty seven years since we've

1104
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: seen each other that you guys look amazing. So do you.

1105
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: We're all old and happy. Um yeah, I'm I'm so

1106
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that we at this and you know,

1107
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 1: thank you for again for your time and for your

1108
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: generous spirit being here with us and your honesty all

1109
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: of that good stuff. Um, this was a real pleasure. Yeah, yeah,

1110
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: really good to see you. Yeah, come back and do

1111
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: a rewatch episode with us. I'd love to, man, I

1112
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: would love to just be a watch because he has

1113
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: never seen it. So's and before we do a watch,

1114
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: I encourage you to go back and and watch some

1115
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: of your work on Boy Meats World and allow yourself

1116
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: to be impressed with you the same way we are

1117
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: impressed with you. And really good. It was really really

1118
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: really special. Yeah, thank you, Yeah, I will thank you

1119
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: for let us know what Tuesday. Thanks yeah, I will, man,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Blake, all right you guys, I he ain't

1121
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: got no he is it's ees yeah. Yeah, the longest

1122
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: word years. Oh my god. Wow. That walking on a

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01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: tight rope. That hit me because that's so exactly the

1124
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: feeling you get in this industry. It's you all are

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01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: constantly walking that tight rope. It's great. Wow, so happy

1126
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: now that it was really nice Um, I could feel

1127
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: through zoom that he he is in a totally different

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01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: place than he was when we knew him on Boy

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01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: Meats World. And and you'd think, well, of course he is.

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01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: You know, twenty seven years have passed. Everyone's in a

1131
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: different place. But that's not true. No, no, not at all.

1132
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: Some people don't grow at all. No, some people don't change.

1133
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: Some people are the exact same people they were in

1134
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: the nineties, and when we see them, were like, oh, yeah,

1135
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: there's that's a person who hasn't done a whole lot

1136
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: of adjusting. Um, there is a real like sense of

1137
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: calm and a real sense of self to blake. Now

1138
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: he was obviously going through some stuff. Yeah, I washse

1139
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: if I can what you just said, you felt it

1140
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: through zoom or zoom feels Zeals. I'd like to say,

1141
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: it's all new Zeal's Zeals trademark. You got the Zeals.

1142
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: It's amazing. No, God, it was fun to talk to him, Yeah,

1143
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: it was. Well. Thank you all for joining us for

1144
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can

1145
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can

1146
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,840
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01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:23,080
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1148
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:28,479
Speaker 1: selling us Yes on our Pod meets World show dot

1149
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: com and we'll see you next time. We love you all,

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01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is an I heart podcast

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01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: produced and hosted by Daniel Fishel Wilford, l and Ryder

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01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: Strong Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman Executive in

1153
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: charge of production, Daniel Romo, producer and editor, Tara sup

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Speaker 1: Box producer, Jackie Rodriguez, engineer and Boy Meets World super

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