Speaker 1: The conference finals are pawn us and we've got a
Speaker 1: rematch of the four teams that were actually in the
Speaker 1: Bubble Conference finals in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: So we'll get.
Speaker 1: Into Nuggets Lakers Man Nuggets absolutely, Uncle. Like I said,
Speaker 1: you'll play bumple ball. But if it's a perfect game,
Speaker 1: I could not believe it. Then we'll get into Celtics heat,
Speaker 1: which we have not seen yet but.
Speaker 3: Will be happening y'all by the game one.
Speaker 1: We have not, we have not, we are We are
Speaker 1: here just with baited breath, waiting to see what happens there.
Speaker 3: And we'll talk.
Speaker 4: About the Spurs they get the Wow Wow, all of
Speaker 4: that and more with NBA reporters Bara Hainey on today's episode.
Speaker 5: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is
Speaker 5: my cat, mad Booste.
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Speaker 1: Welcome as bar Hani Man, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us. You host the Objective Basketball Pod, the No
Speaker 1: Good Pod. You grew up a Kobe Lakers fan and
Speaker 1: then fell in love with your raptors out there in Toronto.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess you know where where should we start?
Speaker 1: Should we just talk about the sad Sixers and then
Speaker 1: we can get into the other sure?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Listen. By the way, I will say, what a fun intro.
Speaker 7: That was a fire intro. I don't know if y'all
Speaker 7: like already, thank you little poetic thing for y'all if.
Speaker 3: You appreciate that, appreciate that.
Speaker 5: S see, we need more Canadian No, I mean that
Speaker 5: leads us into because you switched allegiances, I'm planning to
Speaker 5: switch after this. After this. Yeah, I'm just I'm on
Speaker 5: the open market. NBA teams. You let me know you can,
Speaker 5: you can recruit me to your fandom, but I'm honestly
Speaker 5: I'm gonna root for whoever on. So it's basically a
Speaker 5: Lakers Yeah, you might have it's a Lakers pod at
Speaker 5: this point.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, with bits of objectivity here and there, I.
Speaker 5: Will say I told y'all the Sixers we're gonna lose.
Speaker 1: Jack Rodamis has come through. He saw you saw the
Speaker 1: Matrix neo and you told us there.
Speaker 5: I told y'all at the end of last season when
Speaker 5: they went out to the heat, I said, well, if
Speaker 5: it's the core of doc mbid and Harden, they're not
Speaker 5: getting out of the second round.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they were bettering on too many like bad horses,
Speaker 7: you know, like like it's like betting on four different
Speaker 7: people that just know how to lose, you know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, And I mean it's just the the level
Speaker 8: of coaching, the level of play in the second round
Speaker 8: is just at a consistently high enough level that is
Speaker 8: going to be their gravitational equilibrium.
Speaker 5: Barring them making a really great hire to replace Doc
Speaker 5: Rivers or some change in the chemistry of the top two,
Speaker 5: top three.
Speaker 2: But it did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just.
Speaker 5: They are who we thought they were when they lost.
Speaker 3: Jabari and I held out hope. We were like, Jack,
Speaker 3: come on, now, you could do something here. You might
Speaker 3: be able to close it. Or you're like, we're not
Speaker 3: doing that.
Speaker 5: My heart rate never got above forty five?
Speaker 3: Are you? Are you an Olympian with that such a
Speaker 3: low base arts.
Speaker 5: But I'm already seeing some sixers fans being like, I
Speaker 5: just think we run it back. We get a three
Speaker 5: and D guy, we get a new coach, and we're
Speaker 5: good and uh, you know, arrested development boys. They were
Speaker 5: not good.
Speaker 1: In fact, they did not do us. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and also credit to you know, the Celtics.
Speaker 1: It's yea, they look they look they were ready. They
Speaker 1: were ready, and y'all like on defense, you tried to
Speaker 1: shut Jason Tatum down in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 1: But at times you're like, I don't know how committed
Speaker 1: the Sixers weren't even playing defense.
Speaker 7: They're like, I don't know how committed the Sixers were
Speaker 7: to doing anything at that point. Honestly, like they had
Speaker 7: some weird lapses, like towards the end of Game six
Speaker 7: and towards the end of Game seven, it just looked
Speaker 7: like they were like, you know what, we're mailing it in.
Speaker 3: We've come as far as we can.
Speaker 7: We did what we could. You know, we gave people hope.
Speaker 7: His heart rate went to like forty five in league, right,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 5: I mean that that felt like, I guess what happened
Speaker 5: in Game seven was what I kept expecting to happen
Speaker 5: throughout the series. My main takeaway is that Boston can
Speaker 5: be the best team in the league by a good margin,
Speaker 5: but they just consider like aren't consistently for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: And it's the same takeaway I had from the Hawked series.
Speaker 5: There are some quarters where they don't show up and
Speaker 5: like play the way that their fans seem to know
Speaker 5: they can that, you know, basketball fans, and like, I
Speaker 5: still haven't heard like the closest I've heard to somebody
Speaker 5: who just explaining it is like the Marcus Smart he's
Speaker 5: the alpha, and so like everything starts running through him,
Speaker 5: and he takes some of the biggest shots and then
Speaker 5: like the flow of the offense gets messed up and
Speaker 5: then that affects their defensive effort or something.
Speaker 3: But we'll see, maybe they write it.
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people seem to think like,
Speaker 5: all right, well, now that Tatum has figured it out,
Speaker 5: hung fifty one on the Sixers, they're good. But my
Speaker 5: overall feeling these playoffs is that we keep being like, well,
Speaker 5: now they've figured it out, the Nuggets have figured it out,
Speaker 5: and the Nuggets have figured out the Lakers or Jason
Speaker 5: Tatum has figured it out, and now he's going to
Speaker 5: do that every game going forward, and that just hasn't
Speaker 5: been the case.
Speaker 7: It's like they you.
Speaker 5: Have a good game and then the other team, you know,
Speaker 5: takes it up a notch and they're also trying to
Speaker 5: beat you. So yeah, I don't know, they're I think
Speaker 5: at their best. They are by far the best team
Speaker 5: in the NBA. Yeah, I just don't know what stops
Speaker 5: them from being that every night, which is not an
Speaker 5: insult to them. It's hard to be the best team
Speaker 5: in the NBA. It's just it's unclear, like what changes
Speaker 5: from game to game, just like it is with the
Speaker 5: Sixers with Harden, Like, I, yeah, it looks like he's
Speaker 5: not trying, but there's something else, like that's that's happening
Speaker 5: there that like their defensive adjustments that don't allow him
Speaker 5: to like see the game the way he wants to
Speaker 5: see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think adding time Lord to the starting
Speaker 1: lineup was huge, Like seeing the effect he had over
Speaker 1: like Derek White, I was like, it's he had like
Speaker 1: he had a presence that it felt like was affecting
Speaker 1: Embad's confidence at times.
Speaker 7: And I was like, wow, I don't know if they
Speaker 7: could do that in that in this heat series though.
Speaker 7: That's the that's the one thing I'm worried about, Like
Speaker 7: I don't think they can go big like that. They
Speaker 7: probably have to start one of him or Horford.
Speaker 5: But yeah, this is a tough one because this is
Speaker 5: a series that the listener already has like a full
Speaker 5: game on us, right because this is coming out tomorrow,
Speaker 5: so they they've seen a game. But I really have
Speaker 5: a strong feeling that the Heat are being vastly underrated
Speaker 5: in the like the level of underdog that the Heat
Speaker 5: are in Vegas is wild. But y, yeah, you just
Speaker 5: a lot of like the NBA experts seem to just
Speaker 5: be doing the well. The Celtics have figured it out
Speaker 5: and now they're going to be the team we know
Speaker 5: they can be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they very well could. But then also, like
Speaker 1: I think there's something to the revenge plot line and
Speaker 1: like even Jimmy Butler's words last year when he was
Speaker 1: just basically like, no, we're going to come right back
Speaker 1: and we are going to do it this time, and
Speaker 1: he they've they've been.
Speaker 6: True to their word.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it'll be.
Speaker 3: It will definitely be.
Speaker 1: I hopefully we're not being like and they were blown
Speaker 1: out by fifty, But I think I think there is
Speaker 1: something there. What like, as how you looking at this
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference final matchup.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with y'all. I think like it's as
Speaker 7: someone said, there was a four percent chance the Heat
Speaker 7: would win this series, something along the lines of that,
Speaker 7: and I just think that's that's ridiculous, Like, yeah, the
Speaker 7: Heat have all the like, all the playoff type guys
Speaker 7: that you could want on a roster, like I know
Speaker 7: Warriors fans would have loved the Kevin Love on their
Speaker 7: team or a Kyle Lowry on their team or whoever.
Speaker 7: Those are just guys that are gonna do well in
Speaker 7: a playoff series, you know, And I think that's gonna
Speaker 7: push them over the edge in certain categories. I don't
Speaker 7: know if they're gonna win this series, but it's definitely
Speaker 7: not gonna be a five game series or a six
Speaker 7: game series. I feel like this goes seven, to be
Speaker 7: honest with you, just like it did last year. And
Speaker 7: that's just because of Jimmy and Bam and the other
Speaker 7: guys that I just mentioned that are just playoff dogs,
Speaker 7: Like they really really know how to win in a
Speaker 7: playoff setting, how to carve out an advantage. I think
Speaker 7: that stuff is so important, is like when things aren't
Speaker 7: going right for you in the playoffs, how are you
Speaker 7: going to figure out a way to just will how
Speaker 7: to win? And they do that very very consistently. With Boston.
Speaker 7: You sort of mentioned it earlier with like why they
Speaker 7: go through these flows and sometimes they're completely off and
Speaker 7: sometimes they're you know, the best team in the NBA.
Speaker 7: A lot of that has to do a shoot, Like
Speaker 7: they rely on the three point shots so much and
Speaker 7: they don't have a legitimate way of getting their offense
Speaker 7: going other ways. So if they're hitting their shots, yeah,
Speaker 7: they look like the best team in the NBA. If
Speaker 7: they don't, you know, they're going gets tough and right. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I think that probably applies in this series too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see I mean the coaching, like they're going
Speaker 5: against one of the best coaches. They're going against somebody
Speaker 5: who has been able to bend other series so far
Speaker 5: this season to his will and Jimmy Butler. So I
Speaker 5: don't know, the Celtics as always could just be that
Speaker 5: team that we know they can be for the whole thing.
Speaker 5: But for some reason, the series seems like I'm leaning
Speaker 5: heat on this series, even having seen what they did
Speaker 5: in Game seven against the Sixers, I just think the
Speaker 5: Sixers were.
Speaker 3: Not the team to do it.
Speaker 1: So you just think over seven games that they will
Speaker 1: the edge will come out with you know, the coaching
Speaker 1: and the will of some of these players.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think, I mean, I definitely think Mazzola,
Speaker 5: the Celtics coach, you know, got better and is one
Speaker 5: of the reasons that they won that series against the Sixers.
Speaker 5: I think he made some really smart adjustments. It's always
Speaker 5: tough because like Tatum is young and clearly still figuring
Speaker 5: things out, and so yeah, maybe he did just figure
Speaker 5: things out in that game seven and now he's going
Speaker 5: to be unstoppable. But yeah, there's just something about what's
Speaker 5: happened so far, and like when I'm listening to other
Speaker 5: people talk about this series, it seems like the mistakes
Speaker 5: that they're making are the ones we keep talking about
Speaker 5: on this show, where it's like Celtics have figured it out,
Speaker 5: and like the thing that's been happening so far, like
Speaker 5: the heat, this thing's over right, Like they right right,
Speaker 5: They're not going to keep doing what they've been doing
Speaker 5: up to this point, and the Celtics will keep doing
Speaker 5: or will stop doing what they've been doing up to
Speaker 5: this point, and you know, suddenly just put it together
Speaker 5: and win four games in a row like play as
Speaker 5: well as they can, and it just feels like that
Speaker 5: hasn't been what we've seen so far. So yeah, we
Speaker 5: shall see Celtics fans getting my mencheese. I know you will.
Speaker 1: Getting my men cheese because they're getting fro yo. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's too regional for.
Speaker 7: I got that reference. I was like talking to someone
Speaker 7: about how menchies used to be the thing in high
Speaker 7: school and nobody does that anymore. Not nobody even goes
Speaker 7: to any you know what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, this isn't a commercial, but hey, we're about
Speaker 1: to hit you with some commercials because we're about to
Speaker 1: take a break and we'll be right back after this.
Speaker 3: And we're back. Jackie had some additional thoughts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what one additional thought is just super producer Jabari
Speaker 5: pulled like, how the Vegas odds for this Eastern Conference
Speaker 5: Finals compares two past series. So negative five hundred means
Speaker 5: that you need to bet five hundred dollars to win
Speaker 5: one hundred dollars, which means that like, you're a huge favorite.
Speaker 5: So the Celtic are basically as favored to win this
Speaker 5: series as any team in the Eastern Conference over the
Speaker 5: past five years. So then the Bucks versus the Hawks
Speaker 5: were the only other time that somebody was minus five hundred,
Speaker 5: and that was when everyone was like the Hawks, Wow,
Speaker 5: how did they even get here? And The way they
Speaker 5: got here was they beat the Sixers NBA. The Sixers imploded.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some good fortunes, huh, because somebody hit
Speaker 1: the Wemby lottery and that's somebody is the San Antonio Spurs.
Speaker 5: Do we think he really was that happy that the
Speaker 5: Spurs won? Do we think he just knew heading in
Speaker 5: like I've got to pretend like I'm happy with whatever
Speaker 5: comes out here, or nah?
Speaker 7: They know beforehand, like they do the draw beforehand, so
Speaker 7: all of them know. If see this is funny. I
Speaker 7: was watching it on TV on mute because I was
Speaker 7: I was at a baseball game and you could just
Speaker 7: see the reactions of the dudes when they're introducing them,
Speaker 7: and in that moment you can find out who won
Speaker 7: the lottery. In that one second they showed the person.
Speaker 7: The Spurs guy was cheesing like he was smiling like crazy,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, they won the lottery.
Speaker 3: They yeah, he was.
Speaker 7: He was going like even before they even did the
Speaker 7: fourteenth pick, he was smiling like crazy. I'm like, he's
Speaker 7: the one who want they wait, that's real. Yeah, they
Speaker 7: do it way beforehand. They do it like an hour beforehand,
Speaker 7: and then they do the like, you know presentation.
Speaker 3: I guess on TV where's the intrigue.
Speaker 5: I thought he was just happy because he was a
Speaker 5: billionaire's son.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just generally happy for his well, generally happy versus
Speaker 1: he knew something. We did it, Yeah, I mean former
Speaker 1: guest shout out Warren Shaw. He called it on the
Speaker 1: show earlier this year. He said it was going to
Speaker 1: the Spurs.
Speaker 3: I mean, not that.
Speaker 5: I mean, so people have known since then. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: guess I believe Warren knew somehow somehow.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think we were talking about where we'd
Speaker 1: like to see him.
Speaker 3: I personally would.
Speaker 1: Have it would have been cool to see Detroit just
Speaker 1: turn into like a something really fun to watch again.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if be dealing with pop that
Speaker 3: I like that. I mean, I don't know. I mean
Speaker 3: I like it for him.
Speaker 5: I like it for him seeing him do like the
Speaker 5: best that he possibly can do, and I feel like
Speaker 5: that's the place to But we we've seen them have
Speaker 5: some of the best like development player development of the
Speaker 5: past like two three decades, So yeah, I was happy
Speaker 5: for Like, I didn't know how it was going to
Speaker 5: feel until they actually revealed it, and then that one
Speaker 5: just felt right to me, I'm pretty happy for him.
Speaker 7: It's funny because, like, I didn't necessarily have a preferred destination,
Speaker 7: not a not a specific spot to go. But I
Speaker 7: would have been cool if portl And got it because
Speaker 7: it would have just made what happened in the summer
Speaker 7: a lot more difficult for them. It's like, Okay, do
Speaker 7: we is Wenby good enough for us to contend with
Speaker 7: Dame and we can just hope that he's good enough
Speaker 7: right out the gate so we can go ahead and
Speaker 7: do this right now, or do we have to just
Speaker 7: trade off Dame, start over and build around Wemby. I
Speaker 7: just think that would have been a cool kind of
Speaker 7: thing to think about. And then also Portland's been robbed
Speaker 7: so many times in the draft and you think about
Speaker 7: like MJ, you think about Greg Oden, you think about
Speaker 7: all that, right, so it would have been cool for
Speaker 7: them to get it with the Spurs. It's kind of
Speaker 7: crazy though, right the Admiral, then Tim Duncan and now Wemby.
Speaker 7: So it's it's crazy how this happens. And then they
Speaker 7: have the Tony Parker connection too, and I know he's
Speaker 7: he's a big I think he's going to be involved
Speaker 7: with the team next year, especially with Wemby coming.
Speaker 5: So, like, just as a straight up translator, Yeah, Papa
Speaker 5: saying what he's like a guy who speaks French.
Speaker 1: He's like, look, mon Ami, there's going to be some
Speaker 1: transitional growing pains going.
Speaker 6: Y'all had meat.
Speaker 7: You guys had at some point, right, Yeah, exactly, you
Speaker 7: guys I barbecue for the first time.
Speaker 3: You know, see how he does put some meat on him.
Speaker 7: Hey, that's the biggest question. It's like, how is that
Speaker 7: dude gonna transition from living in Paris to living in
Speaker 7: San Antonio?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: San Antonio.
Speaker 5: San Antonio is the Paris of that very specific part
Speaker 5: of Texas. So or he can move to Paris, Texas, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: not even Paris, the Paris of Texas.
Speaker 7: San Antonio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's anything to be near something called Paris River.
Speaker 5: Walk is very nice. It's also like an opportunity for
Speaker 5: him to, you know, continue to grow up in a
Speaker 5: smaller community, which is which is probably nice.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure his life will be very normal.
Speaker 7: The funniest part of the whole draft process was his
Speaker 7: reaction to hit Houston not getting the first overall pick.
Speaker 7: Did you guys see that?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: So he he like went like he did like the
Speaker 7: Kobe when Kobe hit the game, or he did this
Speaker 7: like he fis pumped like crazy when Houston didn't get
Speaker 7: the number one pick. He was really happy about that.
Speaker 7: I can't blame him. I honestly can't blame him for that.
Speaker 7: But yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, Well he let it be known.
Speaker 3: He let it be known.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about his transition to the league.
Speaker 1: Is it going to be seamless? Is it going to
Speaker 1: be fraught with chaos? Is his body will.
Speaker 3: It hold up? Any concerns for you? Gus?
Speaker 7: The one question not even concerned because I think Wemby
Speaker 7: will be a good player. We were talking about this yesterday.
Speaker 7: But like the base level of what Wemby is as
Speaker 7: a player, just because he's seven foot four, he has
Speaker 7: incredible foot speed, He's still like going to be a
Speaker 7: great defender. Even if none of the offensive stuff projects
Speaker 7: and actually happens at the professional level, He's still going
Speaker 7: to be a potentially all time defender. The health concerns
Speaker 7: are always going to be there, like like whether his
Speaker 7: body can sustain, But apparently his team has been doing
Speaker 7: a really really good job of like building out his muscles,
Speaker 7: like I saw this video of him and he's like
Speaker 7: without socks on. He's doing like these leg crawls, uh
Speaker 7: to warm up, and it's for some reason, it like
Speaker 7: it builds the smaller muscles in your feet so that
Speaker 7: he doesn't get foot injuries and ankle injuries ligament problems.
Speaker 7: So I don't know. I think I think we're good
Speaker 7: on the health side of things. My question is about
Speaker 7: the hype. And I've been thinking about this because of Lebron,
Speaker 7: because like the Zion hype for a lot of people
Speaker 7: in Canada, like it was Wiggins, right, it was crazy
Speaker 7: to see what would happen with him. Not a lot
Speaker 7: of guys end up living up to that hype. Bron
Speaker 7: is maybe the only guy in my line. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: and Kareem and like Kobe as well exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean there are a lot of not this coming. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 7: And it was the thirteenth overall pick, like he's not
Speaker 7: he wasn't gonna.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm getting a little Laker centric.
Speaker 5: But it's Yeah, I think we like the Lebron thing
Speaker 5: is I think what super underrated that he was able
Speaker 5: to do it. Yeah, Like yeah, with you know, just
Speaker 5: growing up in it's like growing up in Truman Show,
Speaker 5: you know, it's like just all all eyes were on him.
Speaker 5: There were billboards in his hometown that were aimed only
Speaker 5: at recruiting him to Nike and Adidas say with putting up,
Speaker 5: please sign with us, sir, young fourteen year old, and
Speaker 5: like that. It is a miracle that he didn't go
Speaker 5: crazy and that he ended up like delivering on the hype.
Speaker 5: So I don't know in that respect, I feel like
Speaker 5: from one side of that, I'm like, I think we're
Speaker 5: probably overrating how sure of a thing this is, because
Speaker 5: Lebron like made it through that and was was so great.
Speaker 5: On the other hand, it's just like sometimes you know,
Speaker 5: and like Lebron was the last time that the hype
Speaker 5: was this great and people just new, just had a feeling,
Speaker 5: And it does feel similar here where it's just the
Speaker 5: only problem is, of course he's seven to four and
Speaker 5: plays like a point guard, and I do worry about
Speaker 5: the health stuff, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it'll be wild to see him take two
Speaker 1: steps from half court and then already be finishing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Like that's the thing about Lebron is that his greatest
Speaker 5: skill was his indestructibility like that, and that was not
Speaker 5: something anyone could have seen coming, you know, right.
Speaker 1: Right right, yeah, I mean like Wenby's he's going a
Speaker 1: euro step from the other like foul line, yeah, and
Speaker 1: finishing like yeah.
Speaker 7: The crazy part is, like le Bron, the health is
Speaker 7: the most underrated part of it. Like it takes it
Speaker 7: takes a special type of human being to be able
Speaker 7: to play twenty years of professional basketball and not miss
Speaker 7: I mean he's missed some time in the last couple
Speaker 7: of years, but you know what I mean, Like he's
Speaker 7: been pretty healthy throughout his career. That's that's rare, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't know. I guess that's the one concern I
Speaker 7: have Wemby. But otherwise, man, like I really I believe
Speaker 7: I'm a Wenby believer.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you mean, off the clips, I absolutely
Speaker 1: want him to to make good on everything I've seen
Speaker 1: because it's I just can't I want to see that
Speaker 1: in the league, Like I just want to see this
Speaker 1: all happen and just have to see, like who can
Speaker 1: figure him out?
Speaker 3: Or if he's figure out able, can can they figure
Speaker 3: him out? Jack? Can he be figured out?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: It's not so Wemby had a bad game in game
Speaker 5: three of them. The league has figured figured him out.
Speaker 5: It's over for him. Yeah, he assuming they're not not
Speaker 5: everybody's trying to be good at basketball and right, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exciting.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know why, but like seeing him like that,
Speaker 5: now that we know where he's going, I just got
Speaker 5: more excited. I'm like, well, I guess I'm a Spurs
Speaker 5: fan now for uh, maybe that's what I'll switch to.
Speaker 1: Right right, Well, speaking of thirty eight year old Lebron James,
Speaker 1: I really can't get used to hearing when I hear
Speaker 1: commentators say that like Lebron James at thirty eight years old,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm thirty eight, man, Stop making it sound
Speaker 1: like I mean, but I get it. For what he's
Speaker 1: doing the NBA, it is novel, But I just don't
Speaker 1: it's funny to hear people be like, I mean, at
Speaker 1: thirty eight, what he's doing just on paper will always
Speaker 1: sound very funny to me.
Speaker 9: He should be at old folks home right now. I
Speaker 9: know how how can he choose solid food? It's amazing
Speaker 9: and he knows all of his children's names. But yeah,
Speaker 9: let's head over to the Western Conference Finals Nuggets Lakers.
Speaker 3: We saw game one.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, absolute master class of a performance from Jokics.
Speaker 1: There's no way, what do you have like twelve rebounds
Speaker 1: in the first court. He's some obscene rebound, like a
Speaker 1: number of rebounds.
Speaker 3: In the first court, and I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: here we go.
Speaker 1: It was an unbelievable night. I mean, Jamal Murray also
Speaker 1: playing out of his head. I'm not sure what the
Speaker 1: Lakers could have done. I honestly, you know, it got Look,
Speaker 1: it kind of got close there at the end, but
Speaker 1: we just didn't quite have what it took to finish
Speaker 1: the game off. And like with Jokis playing the way
Speaker 1: he was, there was this one shot over ad like
Speaker 1: such a D three, and I was like, is he
Speaker 1: really Oh he contests, Oh.
Speaker 3: And that just went in so casual. That really that
Speaker 3: when he when he hit that, I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: we're not getting out of here with anything that's not Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is not our night. Kitch just gets it off
Speaker 3: in time, it's up.
Speaker 6: It's good.
Speaker 3: Of course it goes in Leo Kitch from town child.
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis just stares at him.
Speaker 5: And then the Lakers came back and kept putting them. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that was a pretty impressive get, like a pretty impressive
Speaker 5: loss because it could have gone a lot of a
Speaker 5: lot of different ways. There was a point where I
Speaker 5: was like, man, just get bron and a D out
Speaker 5: of there, Like.
Speaker 1: I told you in our in our group chat, I
Speaker 1: was like, I was so disoriented from like the run
Speaker 1: they were going on.
Speaker 3: I like accidentally ordered women's sandals online. Yeah, didn't have
Speaker 3: to make this on the internet. Was all confused.
Speaker 5: If you like wearing women's sandals, mouths, you don't have
Speaker 5: to make this vast.
Speaker 3: Elaborate scheme.
Speaker 1: I hold onto the words of Jizu, the genius and
Speaker 1: liquid swords, you know what I mean, And that's a
Speaker 1: minimum and feminine like sandals.
Speaker 2: What what does that mean?
Speaker 6: Jiz?
Speaker 5: I don't know who knows, but yeah, I mean when
Speaker 5: you're having a conversation with him, do you call him
Speaker 5: Jizza or the Jizz?
Speaker 3: I call him Jizz?
Speaker 2: Okay, cool?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like the Nuggets are playing so well.
Speaker 1: They made a D's performance look absolutely pedestrian. Forty ten
Speaker 1: three steals, two blocks.
Speaker 3: He was he was playing like.
Speaker 1: I couldn't really ask much more from him. I could
Speaker 1: have asked for a little bit more from some other players.
Speaker 1: But I mean that just shows you like the level
Speaker 1: in this series. But like, hey, shout out to ruy
Speaker 1: Haachimura came in and he did his thing.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 3: He was like, when we needed a shot to far
Speaker 3: or three or something, Rui was there for it.
Speaker 7: He had the main assignment on Jokic in the fourth
Speaker 7: quarter too, Yeah, he was he was the guy guarding him,
Speaker 7: and then it allowed Ady to be the guy who
Speaker 7: was kind of roaming the paint.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I feel like the Nuggets can counted that pretty easily though,
Speaker 7: by pulling pulling Gordon out and then just playing five out.
Speaker 7: But I mean, if I'm a Lakers fan, mm hmm,
Speaker 7: I would say that this is I mean, it's not
Speaker 7: a win because you don't have a win. It's not
Speaker 7: a win, but you got pretty close and didn't play
Speaker 7: the greatest game in the first half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would sound like I would sound like
Speaker 1: a true Lakers fan to be like, yeah, I know
Speaker 1: we lost, but we won though, really right now, we lost,
Speaker 1: they played fantastic.
Speaker 3: We played well too. They were just that much better.
Speaker 1: And I honestly, in the beginning I felt like we
Speaker 1: had I think we had a hangover from beating the Warriors, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think we were really focused enough for what
Speaker 1: was happening, because I don't I felt like we weren't
Speaker 1: properly respecting the shooting of the Nuggets at first, uh,
Speaker 1: and we got punished pretty bad. And then suddenly we're like,
Speaker 1: oh right, we we have to engage or else. You know,
Speaker 1: this thing's in a fully get away from us.
Speaker 5: I haven't watched enough Nuggets to be honest to know
Speaker 5: how out of the ordinary that shooting display was.
Speaker 7: It wasn't out of the ordinary, so that that's a problem. Yeah,
Speaker 7: Like to be fair, the Lakers were giving them pretty
Speaker 7: wide open shots in the first half, like they were
Speaker 7: helping off a lot and like sending a lot of
Speaker 7: help at Yokic, which doesn't make sense because that's that's
Speaker 7: what they want them to do, Like you send a
Speaker 7: double team at Yokic.
Speaker 3: Oh cool, all right, you know he makes the right
Speaker 3: pass every time?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So I don't know. I think I think
Speaker 7: part of that is, like this is the Nuggets, this
Speaker 7: is the this is the way they play every single game.
Speaker 7: They're probably going to be just as good in Game two,
Speaker 7: and it's up to the Lakers to hit those shots,
Speaker 7: like Austin Reeves in the second half was awesome in
Speaker 7: that fourth quarter in great shots. You need that type
Speaker 7: of performance from him. You need d Lo to start
Speaker 7: hitting his shots too, Like you just need everybody to
Speaker 7: be on point when it comes to the shooting. If
Speaker 7: they can't keep up, you know, math wise, the math battle,
Speaker 7: they they probably end up losing the series.
Speaker 5: Quick maths, quick maths. The only thing that's giving me
Speaker 5: faith is Lebron being able to figure it out.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he'll figure it out, he'll figure out.
Speaker 7: He does.
Speaker 5: He's the exception. He really does seem to figure things out.
Speaker 5: And like, so I don't I watched that first game
Speaker 5: and I'm like, man, if that if that's how the
Speaker 5: Nuggets always shoot, I don't know how the Lakers win
Speaker 5: that series. After Game two of Golden State, both I
Speaker 5: and Zach Lowe were like, well, the Lakers can't win
Speaker 5: this series now, right, Like they're you know, the the
Speaker 5: Golden State figured out what to do, how to spread
Speaker 5: the floor. There's no way that they're coming back from this.
Speaker 5: And the Lakers won and six, So I don't know.
Speaker 5: They It'll be interesting to see I watching this playoffs,
Speaker 5: both all the Lakers series, but also watching something about
Speaker 5: that six or Celtics series really because because it was
Speaker 5: like such a it haunts a weird mental battle. Well
Speaker 5: even like watching the Celtics, who like are so good
Speaker 5: at their best, but like just have these weird swoons,
Speaker 5: like gave me an appreciation for Lebron and just like
Speaker 5: his ability to always just eventually like figure out what
Speaker 5: like the smartest strategy and when to like peak and
Speaker 5: all these weird subtle things that actually I have a.
Speaker 7: Little bit of a take here. I don't know if
Speaker 7: you guys will agree with this. So I think a
Speaker 7: lot of people bring up parody, which is totally true.
Speaker 7: The league is more even than it has been in
Speaker 7: a couple of years. But like the byproduct of parody
Speaker 7: is that a lot of these teams aren't as good
Speaker 7: as we've seen before. So a lot of these teams
Speaker 7: are sort of made like they're not the greatest they
Speaker 7: could potentially be. Boston isn't as good as whatever. Others
Speaker 7: like the Warriors in you know, at the height of
Speaker 7: their prime, and then the Cavaliers at their prime. So
Speaker 7: a guy like Brown who is so used to playing
Speaker 7: at that level of competition, facing teams like the Warriors,
Speaker 7: facing teams that he's at to, you know, topple before,
Speaker 7: it's easier for him to try to figure out and
Speaker 7: adjust and then also point out a weakness because yeah,
Speaker 7: it's just these teams aren't as good as they were before.
Speaker 7: It's it's better because the product is more fun. You
Speaker 7: don't know what's going to happen, it's more unexpected. But
Speaker 7: parody has sort of created this this weird paradox. I
Speaker 7: guess that it's the teams aren't as good as they
Speaker 7: were even five years.
Speaker 1: Ago, six years ago, whatever it is, right, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: if the Nuggets keep playing like that, just hold on
Speaker 1: to your butts.
Speaker 3: That's all I can say.
Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, good luck to those Lakers because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need it if the Nuggets keep playing like that.
Speaker 3: Uh and my god, I mean like the way Yokas
Speaker 3: is playing, I was like.
Speaker 1: Is that the m v P.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, he's he's better than As an Embiid fan,
Speaker 5: I can't I can confidently tell you, and I'm sure
Speaker 5: a lot of Sixers fans won't won't love it, but
Speaker 5: he's way better than Embiid, Like Embeid.
Speaker 7: Probably should have won last year and probably should have
Speaker 7: won this year.
Speaker 2: That's what a lot of people said.
Speaker 5: But man, he's good.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, it was basically the like the
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio equivalent, the you know the revenue oscar that you.
Speaker 7: Have the bottom dash one, right, Yeah, that's not.
Speaker 3: His best one though. They're like, yeah, but it's been
Speaker 3: a while. We had to we had to do a
Speaker 3: make good. It's like, okay, sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break and we're gonna come
Speaker 1: back with us for the most sought after segment in
Speaker 1: podcasts and the rapid fire round of questions.
Speaker 2: All right, right after this, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And I know all the advertisers line up because they
Speaker 1: want to be able to brand this segment, but we
Speaker 1: say no, we are keeping this sacred. It is the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It's time for the rapid fire round of
Speaker 1: questions now as this segment is probably no, not probably,
Speaker 1: it is the fastest sequence of questions in a sports
Speaker 1: podcast on Earth at the moment. And what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask you a question. Don't think too much,
Speaker 1: just chest pass the answer right back, don't and don't
Speaker 1: give a long answer. Because this has to move quick
Speaker 1: as rapid. And guess what if Jack and I start
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, what if this was the just right
Speaker 1: adding detail about me? Yeah, me talking about my favorite
Speaker 1: food at the formerly the Staples Center.
Speaker 3: You have to cut us off, man, like, man, this
Speaker 3: is rapid. Okay, okay, that go on you and if not,
Speaker 3: we're gonna be big, mad, furious furious. You ready, Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's do Jack?
Speaker 2: You ready?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah? Guess what, Brian, Brian's weeping?
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, Sorry, I don't mean to yell, Brian.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to yell, but after that loss to
Speaker 1: the Nuggets, I'm a little right now, little.
Speaker 7: Off right now.
Speaker 3: I want to go first.
Speaker 5: You want to switch off first?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, you allowed me to go, so let me
Speaker 3: allow you.
Speaker 5: Is there a single NBA player you would all right?
Speaker 3: You don't, you're not.
Speaker 5: You're just a GM. You're just thinking about I want
Speaker 5: to maximize my wins. Is there a single NBA player
Speaker 5: you would take right now? You are the GM of
Speaker 5: the San Antonio Spurs. Forget about contracts. It's just somebody's like,
Speaker 5: all right, I will give you any NBA player current
Speaker 5: contract for Wembin Yama for the webbing Yama. Pick who
Speaker 5: are you going with?
Speaker 7: Or are you keeping the pick? I'm keeping the pick?
Speaker 5: Wow, man, Even over Yannis, I didn't even do the
Speaker 5: Yannis corlaer. Usually people are like, well, you'll take Yannas, don't.
Speaker 7: Na, I'm good, give me nine years of we I'm good.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I take that. Now? What is it about
Speaker 3: wem Be Yama?
Speaker 5: This is why he's the greatest follow up question? You know,
Speaker 5: I guess he didn't have the greatest serve, but he
Speaker 5: had the greatest return exactly, And I s every time
Speaker 5: what is it about?
Speaker 7: But that's the.
Speaker 5: Consistency that people look for.
Speaker 3: And I'm asking, seriously, what is it about him?
Speaker 2: Is he good?
Speaker 3: He's good? Esctly don't watch basketball.
Speaker 5: We just kind of go off of vibes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess how chat GPT right up the words
Speaker 3: I say.
Speaker 1: I'm like, tell me a summation of what the Lakers
Speaker 1: Nuggets game one they got serbed.
Speaker 3: Is what chat GPT came up with, which I thought
Speaker 3: was pretty clever to be.
Speaker 5: Miles used that joke like three times in three different chats.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you know what.
Speaker 1: I like that you brought this up because you lurk
Speaker 1: in the other one. You don't ever contribute to the
Speaker 1: other chat.
Speaker 3: I will not name.
Speaker 5: Well, you guys are Lakers fans, and I'm just sitting
Speaker 5: back judging your toxic Lakers energy.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, honestly, sorry, No, I meat you to it.
Speaker 2: I beat you to it.
Speaker 3: No, that's on you, damn. I tell you we had
Speaker 3: to speed it up.
Speaker 5: All right, You're sorry contributing to that. I'll start contributing
Speaker 5: to that anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was sorry.
Speaker 7: What you like the banter? What do you want me
Speaker 7: to do?
Speaker 3: I'm a performer, jack, So what I workshopped? You got
Speaker 3: serbed like little banter.
Speaker 5: Here criticizing your work.
Speaker 2: No, I love it that.
Speaker 6: I just lurking.
Speaker 7: I know. I'm like, hey, beat this thing up.
Speaker 3: Okay, my bad, thank you?
Speaker 7: Thank god?
Speaker 2: Why am I on trial?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 3: Here we go? Next question. You're honor.
Speaker 1: You can go back hoping your Dolorean. Okay, because you
Speaker 1: can go back in time.
Speaker 5: Good morning and look at the Beledictorian.
Speaker 3: And you can go to any single playoff game in
Speaker 3: nb A history. Which game are you choosing court side
Speaker 3: seats to?
Speaker 7: Oh wow, that's tough. Give me two thousand and seven
Speaker 7: Eastern Conference Finals, Pistons Caves, the one where bron scored
Speaker 7: like twenty seven.
Speaker 2: In a row.
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh yeah, what a game?
Speaker 7: Yeah, good one, that was fire.
Speaker 5: That game was wild.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 5: That's one of the few games from like over ten
Speaker 5: years ago that I'll still go back and watch. It
Speaker 5: also puts his age into perspective because the like quality
Speaker 5: of video is so bad.
Speaker 7: Definition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, four to three aspect ratio a VHS tape.
Speaker 5: All right, with Air recently being released, what are you
Speaker 5: your top three basketball movies?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Wow, Above the Rim? Does Juice count? I guess yeah?
Speaker 7: This U just count?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's an interesting one.
Speaker 5: Juice forgot that there was even a basketball like does it?
Speaker 7: Does it? Kind of? Okay? Whatever? I guess we got
Speaker 7: questions about Juice. It's all right, we'll skip forward, Okay,
Speaker 7: I'll go Above the Rim Coach Carter, and then we'll
Speaker 7: go give me another one.
Speaker 5: And then does Ricochet account. You're just naming Tupac movies
Speaker 5: and Poetic Justice.
Speaker 7: No, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna do White Man
Speaker 7: can't job.
Speaker 5: Because you're waiting to see how good the remake is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, probably, How am I gonna? How am I going
Speaker 7: to judge, right, dude, six Man, Yes, that's the one.
Speaker 7: Thank you. I appreciate you. Actually, that is the one
Speaker 7: I was thinking of, So I appreciate you. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: That's a great one. That's a great one, one of
Speaker 3: the greats.
Speaker 5: So and above the rim, that's the one where the
Speaker 5: guy pounds the backboard and flies through the backboard and
Speaker 5: falls off the top of the building.
Speaker 7: Right yeah, well yes, no, that's also six Man, isn't it?
Speaker 7: Six mans Man? Well no, six Man did like a
Speaker 7: spoof of that, right.
Speaker 3: I think yeah they yeah, I think they're spoofing that part.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh no, okay, I don't know. He got game.
Speaker 7: Also is another one, thank you, Jabar, I appreciate you, bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, shout out to Rick Fox in that one.
Speaker 7: Yeah you up?
Speaker 5: Mouse?
Speaker 3: Oh I'm up? Sorry, see s man, what do we
Speaker 3: say this thing going? I know I'm old. I know,
Speaker 3: I'm thirty eight years old like Lebron James. But work
Speaker 3: with me here.
Speaker 1: You can take any former raptor and put him on
Speaker 1: this current group in Toronto.
Speaker 3: Which former great are you choosing to make a run
Speaker 3: in today's league?
Speaker 7: Give me kawhi, bro?
Speaker 8: Why not?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I was wondering if you were gonna if you're gonna
Speaker 5: go with the honest, correct answer, or if you were
Speaker 5: if you were gonna be like, no, you know, Davin
Speaker 5: stardomar uh we're.
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, give me fourhey, Garbajosa from the two Thousan No, no,
Speaker 7: definitely why I was thinking between him and Vince.
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, yeah, man quiet when he was healthy
Speaker 5: for two games and these very NBA playoffs, was the
Speaker 5: best player in the league. Still, Like a lot of
Speaker 5: people have let the fact that he got hurt overshadow that,
Speaker 5: but that's still the highs.
Speaker 7: If he had operating these man, they still might be
Speaker 7: in the playoffs.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, all right.
Speaker 5: And finally the question that all the advertisers are lining
Speaker 5: up to hear the answer to, is it Jack or
Speaker 5: is it Miles? Oh?
Speaker 7: Like, just person like, who do I prefer? Is it?
Speaker 8: What is this?
Speaker 5: What do we do?
Speaker 2: Jack? Is it Miles?
Speaker 7: Okay? You know what I think? I think because you
Speaker 7: are a Lakers fan, I'm gonna go with Miles. Sorry,
Speaker 7: I apologize.
Speaker 6: I said I was a Lakers fan too, do fair right?
Speaker 7: I did twitched?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm over. I'm doing the thing that all
Speaker 5: our you know NBA journalists guests do where they're like,
Speaker 5: I'm actually beyond fandom. I kind of view the NBA
Speaker 5: like Doctor Manhattan viewed humanity.
Speaker 3: And just like above it I see is a matrix
Speaker 3: of pain. Yes, I scare not to engage in just
Speaker 3: the game of basketball. Fantastic, Oh man, love never, I'll always.
Speaker 3: I don't think I'll ever get used to hearing that
Speaker 3: because it's always fantastic. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we got a shout out our guests, s
Speaker 1: bar Hani, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 3: Where can people find you? Follow you, read you all
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 7: Bro. First of all, I haven't laughed this much while
Speaker 7: just being on a podcast and a little bit, so
Speaker 7: appreciate you guys. This was fun. It was, It really was.
Speaker 7: It was fun to do.
Speaker 3: You're a great ghost, great guest. I want to say,
Speaker 3: great ghost.
Speaker 7: I am a great Yeah. I know my skin is
Speaker 7: kind of paled. You don't have to do that, that's
Speaker 7: but yeah. No, you guys can find me on Twitter
Speaker 7: just as Barahini. Just tap in. That's that's all you
Speaker 7: gotta do. Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 5: This is one of the rare podcasts with a twist
Speaker 5: ending s was dead the whole time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: He gave you all the clues with the sixth man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why. That's why I'm like six man, right right,
Speaker 7: right man.
Speaker 1: Well, you can follow us on Twitter at mad boostis
Speaker 1: B double O S T I E s uh.
Speaker 3: And we did have to ask y'all, We said.
Speaker 10: Hey, boost the listeners for the Conference Finals series, what
Speaker 10: are your predictions the results are in on the East,
Speaker 10: sixty percent of y'all believe the Celtics will triumph over
Speaker 10: the Miami Heat.
Speaker 3: And in the West fifty six percent of you. Wow,
Speaker 3: that's less confidence over there.
Speaker 1: On West believe the Lakers will eventually best the numb
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 5: That is that is definitely based on you guys have
Speaker 5: a Laker, our Lebron Lakers fandom. I mean, they're they're
Speaker 5: pretty big underdogs too. So yeah, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 5: saying you're wrong, because I do think the Lakers are
Speaker 5: gonna win. But it's just that's that is the only
Speaker 5: place where you were seeing the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Those numbers, those numbers, Yeah, I think like, yeah, barely
Speaker 1: any of the you know, you know, mainstream analysts, only
Speaker 1: a few picked the Lakers, so you.
Speaker 5: Know, we'll see yeah, Espno was like twenty ten, Like
Speaker 5: twenty people picked the Nuggets, ten people picked the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Super producer Jabi makes a good point. Our listeners are
Speaker 1: smarter than the experts.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, so by by quite a bit, oh
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, but thank you all
Speaker 3: for that one.
Speaker 1: We will see you next week could be an episode
Speaker 1: of Sad Boosties. Who knows where we're at in These
Speaker 1: are in our respective series. But until then, we will
Speaker 1: be us, You be you, and we'll see next time.
Speaker 6: Bye bye, hey
Speaker 7: Said