Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to Camping Out with Zach Selby.
Speaker 1: As we are wrapping up practice today here on this Friday,
Speaker 1: Ronevera's addressing the media over here to my right, and
Speaker 1: when we're dropping all the news you would ever hope
Speaker 1: and care to learn about your commanders as they go
Speaker 1: through training camp in the twenty twenty two season. We
Speaker 1: got a couple of returners today on the podcast. We
Speaker 1: have Pete Haley from maybe C Sports Washington and Matt
Speaker 1: Paris from The Washington Times. Let's go check up what
Speaker 1: they had to say, and now we have Pete Haley
Speaker 1: from NBC Sports Washington. Before we get started, I always
Speaker 1: love when you have the cooler out here when you're
Speaker 1: sitting up like so you really you have like a
Speaker 1: little like little chair like stamping. Well, why the cooler?
Speaker 1: So I lost the standard OTAs because I'm oh, it's
Speaker 1: devastating and I was gonna go get a new one.
Speaker 1: But I tried out the cooler on day one and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is great. I got my drinks ready again.
Speaker 1: You pop out some doritos if I knew two on
Speaker 1: the sideline. It's got good butt coverage, little stiff, but
Speaker 1: for the most part it works. So it's it's I
Speaker 1: like having positioned flex just like Ronevera, and it's it's
Speaker 1: doing well for me. So we're all about foot position
Speaker 1: flex here in Nashburne. And you know, speaking of position flex,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about Percy Butler, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's one of the ultimate position flex with the players
Speaker 1: right now. He had a really good play in here
Speaker 1: during team drill, has kind of stood up Jadie McKissick.
Speaker 1: What have you seen at him so far? As he
Speaker 1: really kind of like been that versatile player that Rivera
Speaker 1: said he would be. So yeah, that play I wrote
Speaker 1: it down from my observations post. What was cool about
Speaker 1: that is Butler's like the speed guys supposed to thrive
Speaker 1: in special teams and when he's running in space. But
Speaker 1: that was like he was almost a linebacker like sitting
Speaker 1: in the hole and just stood up. McKissick was able
Speaker 1: to hold him until reinforcements showed up. Like that was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't know he had that part to his game.
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be a rangy guy.
Speaker 1: But seeing him hit like that with no real momentum
Speaker 1: before it was really really cool. So I think the
Speaker 1: young safeties, all of them behind McCain and Curl are
Speaker 1: having really good camps. I think Derek Forrest, Butler, Jeremy Reeves,
Speaker 1: I think that's a really good competition to watch. Now.
Speaker 1: I think you know, he said he he loves being
Speaker 1: on special teams. How ut special teams do you think
Speaker 1: he's actually going to play? Because you know everyone if
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk with special and off
Speaker 1: of the bout, how like special teams players like they
Speaker 1: love it and then as soon as they have an impact, like, well, sorry, Kather,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to take him in. I feel so
Speaker 1: bad for Nate kats Or. He has these special team
Speaker 1: superstars every year and they just get stolen from him.
Speaker 1: I think Butler's going to be used there pretty much
Speaker 1: because you know, backup safety. Sure, he wanted to stay healthy,
Speaker 1: but that's where the backups have to thrive. Like at
Speaker 1: Johan Dotson, Okay, you don't want to risk an ankle
Speaker 1: Indrea on a punt return. But Butler, like, if you're
Speaker 1: making this team, which he's going to, you need to
Speaker 1: be able to do multiple things. And I think a
Speaker 1: guy like him and a Derek Forrest, you see him
Speaker 1: on kick coverage, punk coverage. That's when they're really going
Speaker 1: to stand out. You know. No safety is Derek Forrest,
Speaker 1: the guy who's kind of made a couple of flashy
Speaker 1: plays here and there. It seems like he's really taken
Speaker 1: a couple of strides of his development this year. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised to see how comfortably he looks back in the secondary.
Speaker 1: I thought he's going to be more of an in
Speaker 1: the box guy. But when he's dropping back handling some
Speaker 1: of those posts and those deeper routes, looks very smooth.
Speaker 1: And I asked him about a couple of days ago
Speaker 1: and he just says that, you know, veterans like Kennel
Speaker 1: Fuller helping him, but he just understands this defense. He says,
Speaker 1: when he looks at a formation, he now knows what
Speaker 1: to look for when emotion happens. What that means, He says,
Speaker 1: his eyes are helping his brain and certainly showing out
Speaker 1: on the field. A couple about the offense, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we have you know the couple of Titans Logan Thomas
Speaker 1: down base. They're not out there right now. Cole Turner,
Speaker 1: he went over there to the tent a little bit,
Speaker 1: get checked out Curtis Hodges and Samus Reyes or the
Speaker 1: two that were in the starting group. Out of those two,
Speaker 1: who has really stood out to you the most so far?
Speaker 1: As much as I love the story of Samus Reyes,
Speaker 1: I think Rogers has impressed me more, just so big
Speaker 1: him and Hodges. Forget which one he asked about, but
Speaker 1: there Curtis Hodd Sorry, I'm just have Armani Rodgers on
Speaker 1: the mind. But we have a hole list the players
Speaker 1: we just got swirling around in our head right now.
Speaker 1: But especially when they have commanders on the back of
Speaker 1: their uniform, it's hard to tell who's who. But the
Speaker 1: Rogers and Hodges both really tall, really lanky tight ends
Speaker 1: who give Wentz and other quarterbacks this big targets so again,
Speaker 1: Rays is really fun to watch, really fun to talk to.
Speaker 1: It seems to be a very strong blocker. But if
Speaker 1: you're looking for those receiving threats after Turner and Thomas,
Speaker 1: I think it's Hodges and Rogers. Those names are too
Speaker 1: similar for me to be saying so much over and over,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop, Yeah, no, I get you, um you know.
Speaker 1: And last on the offensive line, it seems like we've
Speaker 1: got a little bit more stability there. Now we have
Speaker 1: Wish Schweizer over there right guard, Keith Fishmael over there
Speaker 1: starting center. You know, with Chase really is still going
Speaker 1: through his recovery. I mean, do you think Schweizer has
Speaker 1: kind of kind of taken a little bit of a
Speaker 1: step ahead in that role there at right guard? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. I think with Trey Turner out, I mean,
Speaker 1: we know what he can do. He's an established veteran,
Speaker 1: but he's missed a lot of days and at some point,
Speaker 1: you know, if that's going to be a battle, you
Speaker 1: gotta go with the guy who's in playing shape and
Speaker 1: has been building that trust with the lineman. So between
Speaker 1: that and I think Keith Fishmail is shown out well
Speaker 1: to show that he can be a very reliable backup center.
Speaker 1: A lot of interchangeable parts in the middle, and with
Speaker 1: John Matsko leading the charge, I got faith that he's
Speaker 1: going to put a good five out there no matter
Speaker 1: who it is. All Right. The very very last one
Speaker 1: is we're rapping a week two now, we got one
Speaker 1: more day out there FedEx feel before we go into
Speaker 1: week three when we get started for preseason. What's one
Speaker 1: thing that you can take away from this from this
Speaker 1: second week of training camp. I love what the starting
Speaker 1: corners have done, William Jackson and Kendall Fuller. Jackson's been
Speaker 1: telling us that he feels more at home in the system,
Speaker 1: and I believe him after watching how he plays. And
Speaker 1: Kennel Fuller has always been so steady, but this camp
Speaker 1: he looks to be more than steady, looks to be
Speaker 1: sort of a shutdown corner in his own rights. So
Speaker 1: I really like what those two are doing, and I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see if they get a little passed rush,
Speaker 1: if they can get their hands or more passes and
Speaker 1: converts some more turnovers. Now with we have the man,
Speaker 1: the myth, the lead himself. Matt Paris from the Washington Times.
Speaker 1: You know that last period we write was more of
Speaker 1: a goal one situation. The defense had a lot of
Speaker 1: energy positions, definitely because Casey two Hill had a couple
Speaker 1: of really nice plays. You know, Rivera was talking yesterday
Speaker 1: about how much he's really seen out of Casey called
Speaker 1: him like a try hard guy. What have you seen
Speaker 1: out of Casey? Exactly? That? I mean also intelligence too.
Speaker 1: There was the play with Antonio Gibson. They ran it,
Speaker 1: and two Hill just immediately stuffed it out and it's
Speaker 1: a really impressive read. And then later came in and
Speaker 1: forced the fumble or you know, was part of a
Speaker 1: pile that forced the fumble, caught it in the air
Speaker 1: and ran it all the way back. So yeah, he's
Speaker 1: had a strong day to day and that's needed because
Speaker 1: Washington is going to need another edge rusher with Chase
Speaker 1: Young out and so maybe two hills that guy. Another
Speaker 1: guy he's been really high on his fa Obada, you know,
Speaker 1: with those the six socks that he has. You know,
Speaker 1: he looks fresh out there, but he's not been playing
Speaker 1: really well too. I mean, do you think he's working
Speaker 1: a lot of like the more specifics off the RIVERA
Speaker 1: has been talking about, like it turns like his get off,
Speaker 1: his like you know, leveraging that kind of thing. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, you know, Obada is really
Speaker 1: interesting because he's from the International Pathway Program and so
Speaker 1: you know, this is a guy who's still relatively new
Speaker 1: to football. It's his sixth year, and I think you're
Speaker 1: starting to see now that he's used to playing NFL football,
Speaker 1: he's actually starting to hone in on those finer details
Speaker 1: of being a pro and everything that comes with being
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. So you know, he's had an oppressive camp,
Speaker 1: mostly worked with the two so far, but I think
Speaker 1: he could be a situational guy coming in on third
Speaker 1: downs of let's say they take James Smith Williams off
Speaker 1: the field for third down. He's a guy that could
Speaker 1: come in there and be that situational pass rusher. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, even though the often if they could, if
Speaker 1: the Elphins would get it passed off, they were pretty
Speaker 1: much running in some really tight coverage from the corners.
Speaker 1: You know, Pete was talking about how he's really been
Speaker 1: impressed with the starters, William Jackson, Kendall Fuller. Have you
Speaker 1: been just as impressed with them? Yeah? Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing that sticks out about the
Speaker 1: secondary in general is that just of how much in
Speaker 1: sync they are, and that wasn't the case really a
Speaker 1: year ago. You know, you could see William Jackson getting
Speaker 1: used to this scheme. But now they kind of all
Speaker 1: playoff each other. And I think where it's most apparent
Speaker 1: is even before the snap, you hear Cam Curl checking
Speaker 1: in with people and them kind of being all on
Speaker 1: the same page. And I think it's really translated to
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, you know, Kendall four has been probably
Speaker 1: one of my biggest stars of camp so far. I mean,
Speaker 1: no matter what he's who he's going up against, what
Speaker 1: plays make, he's always other just like getting pvus and interceptions.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you expect a really big jump from him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we could. I don't know necessarily about a
Speaker 1: big jump because I think he's always been pretty consistent, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: even if you look at last year, I think he
Speaker 1: was probably the best part of that secondary except maybe
Speaker 1: Cam Curl. But you know, Curl or Fuller plays with
Speaker 1: vision and that's what the defense really requires, and so
Speaker 1: you know, he really fits in. And it's kind of
Speaker 1: interesting because when he was previously here the first time,
Speaker 1: he was a great slot corner. But he's better suited
Speaker 1: for the outside now and I think that's a tremendous
Speaker 1: credit to him to making that adjustment. You bring up
Speaker 1: Curl and you haven't seen too much out of him
Speaker 1: so far in camp, but I mean, like you really
Speaker 1: need to make all these flashy plays. I mean, he
Speaker 1: seems like he's pretty much been as advertised we respected
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. Yeah, that's kind of who
Speaker 1: Cam Curl is. I mean, he's I think maybe the
Speaker 1: most underrated player on the team national from a national perspective,
Speaker 1: I don't know if people realize kind of how good
Speaker 1: he is. I agree with that, yeah, but in terms
Speaker 1: of you know, he's made some athletic plays. There was
Speaker 1: a play a couple of days ago where he left
Speaker 1: up and grabbed back Carson Wentz interception, and so you know,
Speaker 1: we're seeing things from him. He just has a remarkable
Speaker 1: feel for timing and so you know it, He's kind
Speaker 1: of always had that, but you're even seeing it more
Speaker 1: in your three right, So last one before we get
Speaker 1: you back into the team session here is there. I
Speaker 1: guess we're going through like a halfway period of camp. Now,
Speaker 1: we're going to have a practice a facts feel before
Speaker 1: we're going to week three. What's one big thing you
Speaker 1: can take away from the second week of practice? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I just think the offense is still very
Speaker 1: much a work in progress and you would start to
Speaker 1: like to see them turn a corner at some point here.
Speaker 1: But I think that's what this first preseason game coming
Speaker 1: up here next week will be a really good measure
Speaker 1: of that. It's just so much trying to get the
Speaker 1: timing and adjusting to Carson Wentz's kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: ability to throw around the field. So you know, it's
Speaker 1: a work in progress right now, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: fun seeing it come together. That's all we have for
Speaker 1: you today, but be sure to check out your daily
Speaker 1: Command Center camp coverage every weekday on the Commander's YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to my tank because I'd basically
Speaker 1: live here like everybody else, and I will see you tomorrow.