WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Wide Open Competition 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.040 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:10.720 Cowboys. 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:20.560 This He's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training Camp, Innard, California. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:25.919 Second past Kids to Teddy. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:33.280 And now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:35.200 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:40.760 Welcome back to Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.240 the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:44.360 We are here. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.000 This is the penultimate episode of Talking Cowboys. Here at 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.840 training Camp in ox Star, California. One more episode before 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:51.960 we are back home. 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:52.800 Boys. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.080 I am joined by Patrick Nocy Walker at the Voice 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.000 of the Star. I am joined by Clarencello the fort 0:00:58.040 --> 0:00:59.800 Worst Star Telegram. What is your Twitter? 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.880 Clarence Clarence Hill Jr. Running all together, Run together, follow me, 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:04.520 you get all of me. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:07.760 He's ready, he's ready. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:09.800 I'm not. 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.880 Christopher Biemer in the background. We are Talking Cowboys and boys. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.640 We have lots to get to, but let's start with 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:18.479 news and notes. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.600 Patrick no C. Walker, first of all. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.440 I love that you started this this podcast episode with 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.720 a big word that people don't use every day. Because 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.120 I'm a words guy. Sotimate. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.720 I'm a word smith. If you I like big words 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.040 like gymnasium. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.360 I love it. Amazing is a big word. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:34.640 It's a long word. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:34.959 Okay. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:36.959 I thought you were gonna say something like auto out appel, 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.480 you know, indubitably. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.000 Speaking of Jim Nay, I don't mean to cut you off, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:42.840 but you do. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.480 Yeah, okay, but uh, you know, back in the day 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.280 when we were still wrestling in the house that my 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:49.279 grandpa used to cut. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:53.120 Why I remember those days. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:58.000 They know Jim Nay, he said, Jim Nay, calm yourself. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.960 Now this they know gd flex and and brothers and 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:07.240 sometimes sisters on mattresses and whatnot. You know, tackle football, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.600 get the pillars and go about to They don't know 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.000 about that, you know, absolute wrestling on the dirty mattress 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.080 out back. They don't know about that. We came up, 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.560 all right, So news and notes. A couple of quick 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.000 points here. Brandon Aubrey will see if he's back today, 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.920 But as of yesterday, which would have been Tuesday's practice 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.880 walked through mock game if you will, he hadn't returned 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.240 just yet. But for great news, he was racing out 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.880 of the preseason opener against the Rams because his. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:34.800 Wife was in labor. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:40.040 So congratulations, baby Butter Aubrey has arrived. Congratulations to the 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.880 Aubrey family. He is tending to his loved ones right now, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.840 and he will return as soon as it is feasible 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:47.799 for him to do so. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.200 In Vegas, in Vegas, in Vegue. 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:51.840 Does it need to be out here? 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:56.040 No, he does not. You know they got the he doesn't. 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:57.200 I have no urgency. 0:02:58.360 --> 0:02:59.399 We don't have any quarters. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.280 About keep going on Florida, Just keep going for it 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.280 on fourth it's in Vegas. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.680 The kickoff, he don't even need to kick. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:07.400 Nobody got to kick off. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:08.160 You gotta kick them. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.720 Is Jeff Heath available? As I like that. It's just 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.760 it's just just Heath available. But if you have Michael, 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:15.079 kick it. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.399 If you have one, yeah, but you got here field 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.040 because you gott to go forward four or five times. 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.680 You don't make you man, You don't like the partner 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.400 in preseason. If it's for like the kick in preseason. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:27.920 Go forward on fourth and thirty. It's preseason. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.280 Evaluate these guys, man, second piece of information, piece of 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.360 news and notes too. On the bad news front, he 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.080 suffered an injury to one of his big toes. He 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.720 exited the game against the Rams. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:40.120 Uh. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.480 He left the stadium in a walking boot, and it's 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.040 been said that he will miss upwards of ten weeks 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.280 and surgery is on the table as far as possibly 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.120 being needed. How does that work with the Cowboys IR situation? 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:53.560 An amendment was made, so this is kind of a 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.800 book keeping note for all of the fans. Used to be, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.200 you had to carry a guy on the active roster 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.120 for at least one day before you put him on 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.360 i R if you want him to return that season. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.120 The NFL changed it this year, so you have to 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.560 wait until final roster cut downs. But you can designate 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.480 two guys to move the IR on the day of 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:16.280 final roster cutdowns, and those guys can return after four games. 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.840 But you can only do that with two players, so too, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.120 Midoga might be one of those guys. But that's gonna 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.760 obviously thrust Tyler Guyton where he needs to be, which 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.520 is starting at left tackle anyway. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.640 And totally eliminates our argument last week or or on 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.560 Monday about Tyler Goton being number one. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:39.640 Clarence, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a conversation. 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.120 Conversation there was Tyler got was number one when he 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.920 got drafted. That was the conversation, that was the start, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:50.080 right now, that it was never a converse. There was 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.159 never a question that he was going to be the starter. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:53.360 Of course he won. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:54.240 That was never a question. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.960 But what other thing that we're missing is that it 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.640 brings in the focus to the swing tackle, do you know? 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.760 And and that's the question because it's not about Chima 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.120 Chimba Duggs never started, but he was gonna be the 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:06.680 swing tackle. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.960 He was gonna be your third tackle. Now who's your 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:09.680 third tackle? 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.960 It's this This messes up the depth at tackle and 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.680 those other guys look, well, let's go ball. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.200 Richard Doll unproven and you don't know what you have. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.800 And we you know, we saw what Richards looked like 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.039 last week against Rams when old boy, you know, start 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.880 throwing them around a little bit, you know, evend know 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.640 they tried to say it was Zach Brtin black Mark. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.359 But again the question is that is the depth that tackle. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.960 Your backup tackles are coming to Focals now for the 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:37.599 next two preseason games. 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.640 And if I'm correct, me if I'm wrong, but was 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.000 it awesome Richards that was starting in the Miami game 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:43.560 that we were. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.160 I mean it didn't look last year. Yeah, No, it 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.680 wasn't awesome Richards. Didn't he didn't get who was that 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.880 was then awesome Richards. One of the knocks to Awesome 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.640 Richards coming into this offseason was that he was unable 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.600 to earn any reps on the field even when they 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.600 needed a tackle to step up when Chum Dogga was struggling. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.560 So this is Awesome Richards quite literally trying to break 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.160 through from I mean, he was on the active roster 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.159 last year, but he's trying to break through from being 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.200 you know, inactive. 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:16.960 On a weekly basis to actually get on the field. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.080 And obviously we're talking about him in a swing tackle 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.280 capacity because, like like Clarence is saying, now, the question 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.040 becomes with Chuma gone for upwards of two months, h 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.320 Matt will Letsko is going to be more relegated to 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.400 right tackle, which is what Mike McCarthy told us on yesterday, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.920 and Austin Richards is going to be more relegated to 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.840 left tackle, so it's less swing as much, you know, 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.039 versus these two guys are going to be planted here 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:39.360 and we'll see when they go from there. 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:40.320 And Josh baul. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.640 Him on the inside. So he's still longer at tackle. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.520 He's a guard now, so but we know who's not 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.800 an option, right, So there you go. There you go, 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.760 and real quick, I forgot I forgot one one key 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.080 bit of news and notes. One keeping the news and notes, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:57.920 and then we'll come back to the office line conversation 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.479 and we'll move from there. Michael Parsons, as far as 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.560 the update, the latest, what's going on with Ceedee Lamb 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.000 and his contract talks. We talked in the last episode 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.320 about Jerry Jones kind of reframing his words with the 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.280 sense of urgency. Yesterday, Michael Parsons issued a bit of 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.560 a promise and basically said, no doubt about it. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.000 And this is a quote, no doubt about it. 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.200 Week one, he Ceedee Lamb will be suiting up for 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.040 the Dallas Cowboys end quote. So Micah has been in 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.480 constant talks with Ceedee Lamb. He says, Lamb is watching 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.480 practice film, giving Michaeh some feedback to say the least, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.600 and Mica is confident micha is guaranteeing that he will 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.520 be on a field week one to two. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:39.720 Things, There's never been a question in anybody's mind that 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:40.560 c wasn't gonna go. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.000 There are questions and the wrong people. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.240 Okay, anybody that that's been experienced, that that knows how 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.840 things go, knows, have never not signed anybody that they wanted. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:50.480 The King never not. 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:52.840 It was a question in the minds of the fans. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:53.960 You were referring to last. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:54.920 Week, so. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.920 And going back to last week, and and I would 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.440 say that, and I think Michael's attitude and conversation is 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:07.640 important because there was this controversy about Okay, see the's mad, 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:13.880 Michael retweeted CD. So Michael's mad. Everybody's mad. That's cool 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:19.360 by ya, Now, okay, you know it's dissipated CD. You know, 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.800 he took all the cowboy stuff off his social media. 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.200 He was on on some zoom the other day. 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.480 The Cowboy fan drafted him number one overall and he's all, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.000 you know, all part of the zoom looking up with 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:34.360 the Cowboys fan. He you know, and to Michael's and 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:39.120 just Michael talking about that CD's watching practice. The guy 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:43.720 that's mad, right, he ain't watching practice breaking down how 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:44.480 great Michael is. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.199 Okay, now the contract ain't done. They still got some 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:48.599 work to do. 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.319 But of course there's nobody there's no doubt that at 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.480 some point it's gonna get done because the Cowboys always 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.560 moves and get it done. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.400 They gonna close the gap. But yeah, it is what 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:00.839 it is. But so it was a it was a 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.240 good story. You know, y'all. Talk about what's going on 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.079 in sandwichis go you know, right? 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.520 Yeah, talk about more controversy. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.960 Talk about Jamar Chase and how he you know, what's 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:15.960 going on in Cincinnati, like, those are far more contentious 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.360 situations than what's happening here in Dallas. So don't don't 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.280 let the social media stuff for you. It's it will happen, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.040 and it will happen here soon. And Michael knows. 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:29.880 Michael knows everybody, Yeah, Michaeh discussing a working brain knows. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.480 Did he discuss the twenty twenty eight Olympics at all? 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:36.839 He did? I don't. It's hard to tell if he's joking, man, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.520 it's how you would like to think he is. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.599 So for those who don't know, Michael tweeted out that 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:47.559 he is ready to uh take and everybody you know, prepare. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.959 Walked the way he would laughing because he don't even know. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:52.520 He don't even know what sporty gonna play. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:54.559 He don't even know. He don't even have a sports 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.400 set it up? What did michaelsfont On Twitter? 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.480 Michael said he's gonna take twenty twenty seven off from 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.600 football so that he can prepare for the twenty twenty 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:02.720 eight Summer Games. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.160 It's hard to I want to believe he's joking, and 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.800 I do believe he's joking, but it's so hard to 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.760 which sport he well, he said hand pain. 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.000 Now now when we walked away, he don't know what's 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.559 fort and second of all, you do you do? 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:17.600 And he's there. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.400 He respects the game you respect. Ain't no way you 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.760 can take one year off prepare for the Olympics. These 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.040 people are doing this for the entire life. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:28.480 So we know he's tennis. Whatever it is, hamb break dance, 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:30.160 break dancing. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:31.000 They break dance. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.280 I told him, and he got a break. That's probably 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.839 the closest thing you can do. But it'specter compared to 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:36.760 that Australian woman. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.000 But they got rid of break. It's not gonna be 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.679 in the twenty twenty Olympics. Now what hals happened? You know, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.320 because Michael was you know he's in this good jovial mood. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.360 So Mike McCarthy kind of ripped him a by his 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.800 you know running back you know last which. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.120 Was which was in? Which was fun? 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:51.760 Yes, he was having fun. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.199 And then Michael's response was fun, here comes social media 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:56.240 doing the social media. 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.080 We just did it with Michael's response. Okay. 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.679 So Michael also said that when he gets thirty, the 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.559 old age of thirty, he's gonna tell Jerry. 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.880 Either I get it. Yeah, I get a chance to 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.719 run the ball and running back. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:09.560 I'm retired. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.800 No that not you're still gonna, I say, can you 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:15.320 still run? 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:15.840 Absolutely? 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.560 I'll probably be about a four or five. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.520 I'm done to see a goal line package with Michael 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:23.720 Parsons come on. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:25.440 Too much, too much value? You want to see him? 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:26.280 Don't play. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.720 Don't play with church money. Don't play with the church's money, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.600 like just put it in the offer plate and pass 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.000 it along. Don't play the church's money. But one thing 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.000 I will say I believe he was serious about was 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.480 kind of off the cuff when he was talking about 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.360 he was praising Marshaw Kneeling rookie second round pick, and 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.400 in that conversation he kind of casually slid in I 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.520 look forward to playing, you know, alongside him for several 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:47.240 years to come. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.719 I like that. Keep that energy, keep that energy. I 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:51.480 like it. I like it. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.520 Good good stuff from Micah. Now we're getting ready. We 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.480 haven't done this yet. We're getting ready for the second 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.600 Cowboys versus Rams practice. So this is the third time 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.360 we've seen this team in the last week six days. 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.880 How are we looking? I mean, what is the. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.439 What is the impetus here? Why are we doing this 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.319 again with the Rams? Why are we being so familiar 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.280 with the Los Angeles Rams at this point in training camp? 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.360 They don't play on the record season number one, Uh huh, 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:23.440 number two. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.200 It's good work for the starters. I mean, the starters 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:27.920 are not playing the preseason, right. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:29.840 They like the work. The card of the work you get, 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.560 you know, you get tired of going against the other team. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.120 And this is the way teams are supplementing the lack 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.280 of preseason games, sort of lack of work with the starters. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.280 You get the practice aast another team, you know, Dak Prescott. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.000 Gets to see another defense and and and throw against 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.040 other guys than their own and stuff like that. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:45.400 So that's part of it. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.480 Have you ever seen anything like this where you've seen 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.079 the same team in training camp. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:53.880 For but who close to each other? I mean, who worked. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.160 I mean, you don't have a lot of teams that 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.319 that have this close proximity to be able to do that. 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:04.600 And remember the Rams, like Ramsey had three joint practice sessions, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.160 you know, Cowboys on when they got three or four. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:08.240 They've been doing this, you know, since it started camp. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:09.160 This is what they like to do. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.719 They like to and so it's just convenient they right 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:13.880 down the road on thousand oars. It's just real convenient 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:15.480 to get this done. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.920 I mean, and too Chill's point. Really, at this point 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:25.640 in training camp, you want to escalate how you're sharpening 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:26.360 your blade. 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:26.560 Right. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.160 It's one thing to go against you know, the Cowboys 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.760 defense and the Cowboys defense, going against the Cowboys offense 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.720 and the weapons that are included therein but it's an 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.280 entirely different thing to have another team come. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:38.920 In here and practice against you. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.360 And and it is great work for the first team, 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.480 it's because they're not going to see any work for 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.640 the most part in the preseason. You didn't see him 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.000 against the Los Angeles Rams at SOFI on Sunday. You're 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.360 not going to see him against the Raiders this Saturday, 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:51.960 and you're not going to see him against the Chargers 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.680 on the Sunday following what I think this what makes 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.880 this interesting now with the injury to chewing with ydoga, 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.319 is how do the Cowboys handle Tyler Goyton. Okay, my 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.400 question that I kind of posed to myself and I've 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.600 been contemplating it is self self and I said self, 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.439 and self said yes, and I said, how would you 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.319 handle Tyler Guyton? Here's how I handled guy because obviously 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.840 he's a rookie and he needs the reps, especially after 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.560 missing several practices with the illness. But at the same time, 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:20.600 now he's unequivocally it's not even a conversation anymore. He's unequivocally. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.400 You're starting left tackle, which makes him extremely valuable. So 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.120 you got to put him in bubble rep at some point. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.120 This second joint practice is really going to help him 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.720 as far as the GPS numbers go. You take those 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.840 numbers that you get from Tyler Gout and these these 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.080 reps today in the joint practice, I say, you give 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.080 him two quarters two and a half max against the 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.720 Raiders and that's it. You won't you shouldn't see him 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.040 again until Cleveland. It's how I would handle Tyler guy. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.960 Yeah, I mean, first of all, how did we have 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.440 on mazi cement last week? I mean, Mazi is you know, 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.440 he got a lot of reps, you know, and you 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:52.120 you need to. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:52.760 See that from it. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:57.040 I think Mazzi plays against the charges. Yeah, I think 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.760 even if it's just one series, so I think he does. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:00.400 I don't. 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.120 Well, let's we'll cross that bridge to come to But 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.560 as far as as Tyler is concerned, I. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.600 Think, yeah, you you you do. You do play him, 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.840 You play him at least two quarters, and you need 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:11.280 to see him. 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:12.880 He needs the reps and he can get the reps 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.800 certainly in practice, but he needs the reps in the game, 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:16.400 you know, just like Cooper Beb. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:17.640 You know you're gonna you're gonna. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.080 See a lot from those guys going forward, and they 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.640 need the reps, they need the experience. And certainly, you know, 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.840 you don't want to risk injury, obviously you you talked 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:25.960 about the bubble wrap. 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.200 And sensitivity to that. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.440 But he needs to play and that that's more the 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.560 risk reward is worth it for him because of the 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.600 upside because when Cleveland comes, you know, I was talking 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:37.880 to his dad walk At the end of the day, 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.280 we already talked about what they're gonna face when Cleveland comes. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:42.640 You know that's different. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.240 Piggyback off of that question, Cooper b byes also taking 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.640 first team reps. Exciting do we how much more do 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.800 you want to see him? In the preseason you talked 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.720 about Tyler got maybe getting two more quarters. What about 0:15:58.720 --> 0:15:59.000 Cooper be? 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.240 You know the difference between Tyler Gotton and Cooper BB 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.320 is that even before the injury to Chilmaydogan. I mentioned 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.520 this on one of the previous episodes. Is Tyler Gotton 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.040 had a much cleaner path to LT one. I mean, 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.240 for all intents and purposes, LT one was his The 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:13.920 rest was just old school ball coach stuff. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:14.960 Earned the STARTCA, etc. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.280 Brock Kaffman has proved difficult to move if you're in 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.800 the battle for center with Cooper BB. Cooper b B 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.120 is now gaining a ton of ground. He's improved quite 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.000 a bit with the snaps. His blocking was never truly 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.000 a question. You know his strength, you know his footwork, 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:32.280 you know what he can do. Go back and look 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:33.800 at this Kansas State film. But then look at what 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.120 he was able to do against the Rams as well. 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.600 Cooper BB, and he played in two different positions. He 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.560 took some reps at guard, he took some reps the center. 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.600 Now he's earning some starting reps at center. I feel 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.600 like this is a situation where Cooper BB needs to 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.840 get as much preseason play in these remaining two games 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.480 as possible. In that battle with Brockafflin, because I think 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.880 that's still very much. It's it's almost hit to head now, 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.840 whereas Tyler goutt and that's already soft. So now we're 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.960 talking bubble wrap for the third Cooper BB. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.800 No, no, no, no, no, no, not to have to 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.160 go with this, if we if we even I'm leaving, 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:10.600 even I'm leaving, okay. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:19.359 His head then receive said almost this over. It's almost 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.280 they had a clothes head almost. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.800 You know, this was this was inevitable. I mean on 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.200 drafted that I agree with this was inevitable. You know, 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.879 I like that to sign the sounds of inevitability. You know, 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.640 this is this was inevitable. This Tyler guy, Cooper BB. 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.480 This was when the Cowboys talked about being better against 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.719 the running the ball this year. These two guys had 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:42.199