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Speaker 2: Clarence Clarence Hill Jr. Running all together, Run together, follow me,

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Speaker 3: Christopher Biemer in the background. We are Talking Cowboys and boys.

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Speaker 3: We have lots to get to, but let's start with

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Speaker 3: news and notes.

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Speaker 4: Patrick no C. Walker, first of all.

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Speaker 5: I love that you started this this podcast episode with

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Speaker 5: a big word that people don't use every day. Because

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Speaker 5: I'm a words guy. Sotimate.

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Speaker 3: I'm a word smith. If you I like big words

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Speaker 3: like gymnasium.

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Speaker 4: I love it. Amazing is a big word.

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Speaker 3: It's a long word.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 5: I thought you were gonna say something like auto out appel,

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Speaker 5: you know, indubitably.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Jim Nay, I don't mean to cut you off,

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Speaker 2: but you do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, but uh, you know, back in the day

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Speaker 6: when we were still wrestling in the house that my

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Speaker 6: grandpa used to cut.

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Speaker 4: Why I remember those days.

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Speaker 2: They know Jim Nay, he said, Jim Nay, calm yourself.

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Speaker 5: Now this they know gd flex and and brothers and

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Speaker 5: sometimes sisters on mattresses and whatnot. You know, tackle football,

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Speaker 5: get the pillars and go about to They don't know

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Speaker 5: about that, you know, absolute wrestling on the dirty mattress

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Speaker 5: out back. They don't know about that. We came up,

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Speaker 5: all right, So news and notes. A couple of quick

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Speaker 5: points here. Brandon Aubrey will see if he's back today,

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Speaker 5: But as of yesterday, which would have been Tuesday's practice

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Speaker 5: walked through mock game if you will, he hadn't returned

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Speaker 5: just yet. But for great news, he was racing out

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Speaker 5: of the preseason opener against the Rams because his.

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Speaker 4: Wife was in labor.

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Speaker 5: So congratulations, baby Butter Aubrey has arrived. Congratulations to the

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Speaker 5: Aubrey family. He is tending to his loved ones right now,

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Speaker 5: and he will return as soon as it is feasible

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Speaker 5: for him to do so.

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Speaker 4: In Vegas, in Vegas, in Vegue.

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Speaker 2: Does it need to be out here?

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Speaker 4: No, he does not. You know they got the he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I have no urgency.

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Speaker 2: We don't have any quarters.

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Speaker 4: About keep going on Florida, Just keep going for it

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Speaker 4: on fourth it's in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: The kickoff, he don't even need to kick.

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Speaker 4: Nobody got to kick off.

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Speaker 2: You gotta kick them.

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Speaker 4: Is Jeff Heath available? As I like that. It's just

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Speaker 4: it's just just Heath available. But if you have Michael,

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Speaker 4: kick it.

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Speaker 6: If you have one, yeah, but you got here field

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Speaker 6: because you gott to go forward four or five times.

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Speaker 6: You don't make you man, You don't like the partner

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Speaker 6: in preseason. If it's for like the kick in preseason.

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Speaker 4: Go forward on fourth and thirty. It's preseason.

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Speaker 5: Evaluate these guys, man, second piece of information, piece of

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Speaker 5: news and notes too. On the bad news front, he

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Speaker 5: He left the stadium in a walking boot, and it's

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Speaker 5: An amendment was made, so this is kind of a

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Speaker 3: And totally eliminates our argument last week or or on

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Speaker 3: Monday about Tyler Goton being number one.

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Speaker 4: Clarence, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a conversation.

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Speaker 6: Conversation there was Tyler got was number one when he

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Speaker 6: right now, that it was never a converse. There was

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Speaker 4: Of course he won.

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Speaker 2: That was never a question.

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Speaker 6: And and that's the question because it's not about Chima

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Speaker 6: Chimba Duggs never started, but he was gonna be the

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Speaker 2: He was gonna be your third tackle. Now who's your

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Speaker 6: It's this This messes up the depth at tackle and

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Speaker 6: those other guys look, well, let's go ball.

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Speaker 2: Richard Doll unproven and you don't know what you have.

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Speaker 6: And we you know, we saw what Richards looked like

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Speaker 6: they tried to say it was Zach Brtin black Mark.

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Speaker 6: But again the question is that is the depth that tackle.

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Speaker 6: Your backup tackles are coming to Focals now for the

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Speaker 3: And if I'm correct, me if I'm wrong, but was

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Speaker 5: So this is Awesome Richards quite literally trying to break

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Speaker 5: and real quick, I forgot I forgot one one key

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Speaker 5: and we'll move from there. Michael Parsons, as far as

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Speaker 5: sense of urgency. Yesterday, Michael Parsons issued a bit of

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Speaker 5: a promise and basically said, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: And this is a quote, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: Week one, he Ceedee Lamb will be suiting up for

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Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys end quote. So Micah has been in

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Speaker 5: constant talks with Ceedee Lamb. He says, Lamb is watching

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Speaker 5: and Mica is confident micha is guaranteeing that he will

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Speaker 2: Things, There's never been a question in anybody's mind that

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Speaker 4: There are questions and the wrong people.

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Speaker 6: Okay, anybody that that's been experienced, that that knows how

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Speaker 6: things go, knows, have never not signed anybody that they wanted.

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Speaker 2: The King never not.

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Speaker 4: It was a question in the minds of the fans.

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Speaker 4: You were referring to last.

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Speaker 6: And going back to last week, and and I would

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Speaker 6: Michael retweeted CD. So Michael's mad. Everybody's mad. That's cool

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Speaker 6: by ya, Now, okay, you know it's dissipated CD. You know,

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Speaker 6: he took all the cowboy stuff off his social media.

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Speaker 2: He was on on some zoom the other day.

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Speaker 6: The Cowboy fan drafted him number one overall and he's all,

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Speaker 6: you know, all part of the zoom looking up with

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Speaker 6: just Michael talking about that CD's watching practice. The guy

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Speaker 6: that's mad, right, he ain't watching practice breaking down how

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Speaker 6: great Michael is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now the contract ain't done. They still got some

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Speaker 6: But of course there's nobody there's no doubt that at

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Speaker 6: some point it's gonna get done because the Cowboys always

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Speaker 2: They gonna close the gap. But yeah, it is what

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Speaker 2: it is. But so it was a it was a

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Speaker 2: good story. You know, y'all. Talk about what's going on

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Speaker 2: in sandwichis go you know, right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, talk about more controversy.

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Speaker 5: Talk about Jamar Chase and how he you know, what's

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Speaker 5: going on in Cincinnati, like, those are far more contentious

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Speaker 5: let the social media stuff for you. It's it will happen,

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Speaker 5: and it will happen here soon. And Michael knows.

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Speaker 7: Michael knows everybody, Yeah, Michaeh discussing a working brain knows.

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Speaker 3: Did he discuss the twenty twenty eight Olympics at all?

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Speaker 4: He did? I don't. It's hard to tell if he's joking, man,

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Speaker 4: it's how you would like to think he is.

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Speaker 3: So for those who don't know, Michael tweeted out that

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Speaker 3: he is ready to uh take and everybody you know, prepare.

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Speaker 2: Walked the way he would laughing because he don't even know.

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Speaker 2: He don't even know what sporty gonna play.

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Speaker 4: He don't even know. He don't even have a sports

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Speaker 4: set it up? What did michaelsfont On Twitter?

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Speaker 3: Michael said he's gonna take twenty twenty seven off from

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Speaker 5: It's hard to I want to believe he's joking, and

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Speaker 5: I do believe he's joking, but it's so hard to

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Speaker 5: which sport he well, he said hand pain.

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Speaker 6: Now now when we walked away, he don't know what's

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Speaker 6: He respects the game you respect. Ain't no way you

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Speaker 2: We just did it with Michael's response. Okay.

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Speaker 6: So Michael also said that when he gets thirty, the

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Speaker 2: Either I get it. Yeah, I get a chance to

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Speaker 4: I'm retired.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: I'm done to see a goal line package with Michael

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Speaker 4: Too much, too much value? You want to see him?

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Speaker 5: Don't play with church money. Don't play with the church's money,

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Speaker 4: I like that. Keep that energy, keep that energy. I

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Speaker 3: Good good stuff from Micah. Now we're getting ready. We

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Speaker 4: How are we looking? I mean, what is the.

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Speaker 3: What is the impetus here? Why are we doing this

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Speaker 2: They don't play on the record season number one, Uh huh,

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Speaker 6: It's good work for the starters. I mean, the starters

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Speaker 2: They like the work. The card of the work you get,

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Speaker 6: And this is the way teams are supplementing the lack

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Speaker 2: So that's part of it.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen anything like this where you've seen

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Speaker 2: For but who close to each other? I mean, who worked.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you don't have a lot of teams that

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Speaker 6: And remember the Rams, like Ramsey had three joint practice sessions,

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Speaker 6: They've been doing this, you know, since it started camp.

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Speaker 2: This is what they like to do.

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Speaker 6: They like to and so it's just convenient they right

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Speaker 5: I mean, and too Chill's point. Really, at this point

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: It's one thing to go against you know, the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: In here and practice against you.

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Speaker 5: And and it is great work for the first team,

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Speaker 5: now he's unequivocally it's not even a conversation anymore. He's unequivocally.

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Speaker 5: You're starting left tackle, which makes him extremely valuable. So

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Speaker 5: This second joint practice is really going to help him

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, first of all, how did we have

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Speaker 2: See that from it.

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Speaker 5: I think Mazzi plays against the charges. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 6: Well, let's we'll cross that bridge to come to But

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Speaker 2: Think, yeah, you you you do. You do play him,

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Speaker 2: You play him at least two quarters, and you need

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Speaker 6: He needs the reps and he can get the reps

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Speaker 2: And sensitivity to that.

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Speaker 6: But he needs to play and that that's more the

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Speaker 5: You know the difference between Tyler Gotton and Cooper BB

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Speaker 4: Earned the STARTCA, etc.

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Speaker 5: Brock Kaffman has proved difficult to move if you're in

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, no, not to have to

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Speaker 4: His head then receive said almost this over. It's almost

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Speaker 6: You know, this was this was inevitable. I mean on

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Speaker 6: Monday Cooper B. The arrol was going up, everything is

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Speaker 4: That's saying a lot, you know, and.

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Speaker 6: Travis was great, but you know, he was the biggest

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Speaker 6: That's why Mojie is sent to Concerverty because we drafted

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Speaker 2: Now, we drafted to start.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I know the coaches got to, you know, put

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Speaker 6: And again Haubin, love his attitude, love his work after

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Speaker 6: But again this was inevitable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hoffmann is an absolute dog, and you got it.

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Speaker 5: You can't take that away from an absolute dog. But

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Speaker 5: the quote from Thanos, right, you know, Dreaded, run from it,

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Speaker 5: Destiny Robs all the same. And I think we can

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Speaker 5: all agree and we were all on the same page

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Speaker 5: going into the training this year's training camp and that eventually,

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Speaker 5: likely sooner than later, Cooper b B would take the

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Speaker 5: throw of starting center.

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Speaker 4: We've just been impressed.

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Speaker 5: At how long it's taking, or I should say how

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Speaker 5: long bark Hoffman is able to kind of stave him

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Speaker 5: off in this battle easy.

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Speaker 2: I actually impressed it. They just ripped the band that

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Speaker 2: first persons game.

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Speaker 6: I mean because they because they didn't do it imediah

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Speaker 6: and they talked, you know, and I'll talked about it,

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Speaker 6: but now, okay, fine, let's just get it.

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Speaker 4: Just get it.

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Speaker 5: I like that they just needed Cooper Weaver to get

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Speaker 5: the snaps down, and he said Cooper BB in speaking

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Speaker 5: from practice yesterday, after the walkthrough, he was asked, uh,

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Speaker 5: how how the snap coming along?

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Speaker 4: Is he thinking about it still? And he said, no,

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Speaker 4: it's second nature to me now.

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Speaker 5: If they don't say anything to me after a snap,

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Speaker 5: it means I did the snap well, but he's no

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Speaker 5: longer thinking about it. And that was one of the

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Speaker 5: biggest things I was concerned about, and I used to

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Speaker 5: work concerned lightly, was that as long as Cooper BB

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Speaker 5: is continuing to think about the snap, it's going to

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Speaker 5: create a slower reaction time going from snap to block

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Speaker 5: because he's wondering if that snap was right. I love

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Speaker 5: the fact that he said it second nature now because

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Speaker 5: now he can just snap and go and he was

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Speaker 5: already doing that against the Rams.

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Speaker 4: It only gets better for me.

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Speaker 6: And I like what McCarthy said when I ask him

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Speaker 6: on the walk off. He just talked about his contact balance.

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Speaker 6: You know, his athleticism. You know, you don't think about

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Speaker 6: big budd, but you just watch it. Look at some

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Speaker 6: of the taping the game. Is his contact balance, athleticism,

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Speaker 6: getting out, getting down field.

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Speaker 2: It just he's a better athlete.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, up and down with velocity. Yeah, a wrecking ball.

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Speaker 7: All right, boyow Collins pla center. We got to take

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Speaker 3: Has the hype died down from the wide receiver group

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Speaker 3: they changed a readup on me.

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Speaker 4: They did bring up, they took, they took pause.

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Speaker 3: We've had a lot of linebacker play here at camp

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Speaker 3: that has shown up. Actually it showed up in that

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Speaker 3: preseason game. If you're looking at Willie Harvey, if you're

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Speaker 3: looking at Julius Wood and Brock Mogenson, Rock Mogenson. So

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Speaker 3: how are we feeling now about the linebacker room? And

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Speaker 3: is this a one eighty compared to our linebacker room

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Speaker 3: this time last year?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it is a complete one eighty. And when you

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Speaker 5: said juwis will you meant you were talking safety, you

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Speaker 5: meant Jeef Johnson, Jason john Jason Johnson, Jason Johnson.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 5: So the thing about the linebacker room is number one,

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Speaker 5: you have actual linebackers. Last year, you know, you had

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Speaker 5: Leyton Vanderish and you had the Moon Clark, and then

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Speaker 5: when Leyton Vanderrish went down injury, all you had was

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Speaker 5: the Moon Clark. Right now, you have Eric Kendricks, Damone Clark,

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Speaker 5: Damar Fionnover shown, Marrius Leo File, you have Brock Moguson,

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Speaker 5: you have Willie Harvey Junior, you have Jason Johnson, you

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Speaker 5: have Buddy Johnson. Yes, right, So you have guys that

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Speaker 5: even below the top four, they're making plays on defense

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Speaker 5: but also making an impact on special teams as well.

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Speaker 4: Jason Johnson, he got Micah Parsons. You know he plays lineback.

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Speaker 4: I didn't forget. I called the linebackers out.

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Speaker 5: That's the linebacker, that certain package for Michael Parsons's defensive weapon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he has his own designation. Stop trying to call

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Speaker 4: him DEE or LB. It's W.

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Speaker 2: It's W.

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Speaker 4: And as a matter of fact, the boy you play

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Speaker 4: him in the versatile way, the bigger the W. Stick

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Speaker 4: with me on this, folks, stick with me on this.

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Speaker 5: But Jason Johnson, for example, he trans he was the

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Speaker 5: first interception out here in Oxnark. Yes, right, he gets

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Speaker 5: an interception in the first game. He's doing the right thing.

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Speaker 5: Buddy Johnson flashed on special teams. Brock Moguson got the

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Speaker 5: twenty six yard interception return. Cowboys offense unfortunately weren't able

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Speaker 5: to capitalize on that or any of the other interceptions.

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Speaker 5: But this linebacker corps is flying around demo. First series

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Speaker 5: of the game. He's involved. He's right there. Stuff in

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Speaker 5: the run. He's flying all over the field. So yes,

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Speaker 5: it absolutely has done a one to eighty. And you

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Speaker 5: asked the question about the wide receivers. Has that kind

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Speaker 5: of dropped off? And my answer was no, because it's

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Speaker 5: too soon to tell this. This linebacker corps is up

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Speaker 5: up in a way. So if they continue this trajectory,

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Speaker 5: then Mike Zimmers want to get exactly what he wants,

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Speaker 5: which is in demands, which is exceptional linebacker playing his

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Speaker 5: defensive scheme.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again Overshawn. Of course, you know it's eighteen.

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Speaker 4: The band bandit.

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Speaker 2: You know, we got, we got it, we got.

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Speaker 6: You got marriage and you know guys that that are

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Speaker 6: showing up, and you know, certainly you're talking about someone

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Speaker 6: undrafted guys.

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Speaker 2: And Harvey came from uf L and and those guys.

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Speaker 4: But I love Harvey.

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Speaker 3: You know, I made an interesting comparison to to Harvey

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Speaker 3: the other day. Does he kind of remind you guys

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Speaker 3: a little bit of Bruce Carter.

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Speaker 4: That's not a bad hump.

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Speaker 3: The way he's able to get from sideline side three run.

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Speaker 5: Now, I guess I got he's got keep talking, he's

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Speaker 5: got some speed to him. This is when the science starts. Okay,

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Speaker 5: four six, Okay, let's just close that time. I was

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Speaker 5: up around the help out about now.

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Speaker 2: He run it down because was the second round pick

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Speaker 2: for a reason.

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Speaker 4: And as far as coverage goes with Harve though he's talking.

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Speaker 2: Did you see it? I mean when you see Bruce card,

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Speaker 2: I mean he did. He played long enough to see something.

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Speaker 5: Me. Absolutely, we're not going to disrespect the five four

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Speaker 5: like that. Bruce was doing some things, man did He

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Speaker 5: did some things when he played. Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 5: He did some things when he played. He did some

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Speaker 5: things when he played. Man, he was at least in

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Speaker 5: the conversation for an extension.

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget that he was. But but that's not.

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Speaker 6: Your initial question about the linebacker court being a one

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Speaker 6: eighty much.

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Speaker 2: Improved or last year, of course, but that was my design.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have linebackers last year.

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Speaker 6: When they lost linebackers, they moved to safety linebacker, you know,

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Speaker 6: because they're doing a big nickel and they didn't value

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Speaker 6: linebackers last year.

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Speaker 2: So they couldn't help but be better. Couldn't help but

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Speaker 2: be better, right, because that's.

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Speaker 6: Deep though this deep, they're deep because they against got

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Speaker 6: linebackers on the roster.

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Speaker 2: The on the roster last year so they got it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's how many true linebackers did we have

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Speaker 3: on this But you know what last.

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Speaker 4: Year, yeah we had two.

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Speaker 2: I mean they got real linebackers. So that's part of

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Speaker 2: the design.

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Speaker 6: But you know, one thing that Zimber talked about yesterday

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Speaker 6: we talked to he said, you know, and we talked

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Speaker 6: about the bigger guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and you want bigger guys and all this stuff.

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Speaker 6: But he said, even as Parcels found out when he

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Speaker 6: came and want bigger linebackers, the game has changed. They

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Speaker 6: got to be able to run. You know, they got

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Speaker 6: to be able to run because they got to cover

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Speaker 6: to get spread out, and so so everybody's on where

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Speaker 6: you're gonna you know, he said, there will be a

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Speaker 6: lot of times when you just have two linebackers on

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Speaker 6: the field, or even like last year because of the game,

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Speaker 6: you know and certain but when you when it's time

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Speaker 6: to run, you need to be able to have your

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Speaker 6: big guys out there.

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Speaker 2: But there will be a lot of time when we

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Speaker 2: have two linebackers on the field. He said that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So you know, uh, they still got to be able

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Speaker 2: to run.

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Speaker 6: They still got be able to come and go do

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Speaker 6: some things, But yaes it's by design to this line

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Speaker 6: bank or as much approval looks much better as one

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Speaker 6: ap of last year because they'd had a lineber last year.

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Speaker 5: But also to that point as well is the fact

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Speaker 5: that Mike Zimmer clearly is not willing to wait to

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Speaker 5: need something in order to try to tweak something. And

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Speaker 5: here's what I mean by that Byron Vaughns is gone,

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Speaker 5: Nick Vigil, Darius Harris there here.

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Speaker 4: He's not waiting to see if there's a depth issue.

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Speaker 5: He's identifying things in real time, and he'll bring you in,

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Speaker 5: Mike Zimmer will and you probably have three or four

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Speaker 5: opportunity to prove yourself and he might swap you out.

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Speaker 5: But I say that to say real quick before it

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Speaker 5: toss it back to you because in the names that

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Speaker 5: we were mentioning who made an impact at the linebacker position,

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Speaker 5: not only in camp but also in the preseason opener,

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Speaker 5: Nick Vigil, he kept jumping off the film to.

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Speaker 4: Me on special teams.

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Speaker 5: There's a little bit of work there to be done

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Speaker 5: in the defensive scheme because he just got here. But

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Speaker 5: Nick Vigil, he's already showing some value for Mike Zimmer

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Speaker 5: and for bones fossil.

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Speaker 4: So keep an eye on a guy like Nick Vigil.

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Speaker 5: His IQ was praised highly by Mike Zimmer coming in

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Speaker 5: and when they when they brought him in a couple

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Speaker 5: of weeks ago. If that and he's he's taken to

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Speaker 5: it real fast and existing relationship, right.

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Speaker 6: And that's what I'm saying and trying to get to

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Speaker 6: that is that when you when you talk about winning, now,

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Speaker 6: that's what this is about. I mean, yeah, they got

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Speaker 6: they they went and got veterans, they went and got

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Speaker 6: some guys you know, the INICI virtuals he has experienced

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Speaker 6: with him because of the things, because he.

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Speaker 2: Knows the defense, you know. You know, he's trying to

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Speaker 2: bring in guys that that can help them win.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: As Jerry said, we're trying to win all in.

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Speaker 6: This is part of their versions, their version of all

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Speaker 6: in you know, in training camp, because they're they're bringing

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Speaker 6: in guys, bringing in veterans, are not waiting as you say.

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Speaker 2: The fighting.

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Speaker 6: They're bringing in veterans who have experienced who can help them.

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Speaker 6: They're trying to get help now absolutely, you know. And

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Speaker 6: then you know obviously it's not Matthew Judaan, which I

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Speaker 6: hope they go and trade for if they could do

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Speaker 6: this something like that, that would be great.

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Speaker 4: But I would love it.

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Speaker 6: But but but but but they but going in and

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Speaker 6: getting veterans who they know, can is driven the car

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Speaker 6: before in the game, can help them out on special teams,

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Speaker 6: can help them win. Now to go along with the younger,

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Speaker 6: they guy young, because you got young guys in Overshewn,

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Speaker 6: you got young guys in marriage, You got some young

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Speaker 6: guys you know, and so you need some of these

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Speaker 6: other veterans.

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Speaker 5: Everyone not named Damian Wilson or Eric Kendricks has a

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Speaker 5: lot of youth on them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, boys, before we leave, I have one

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Speaker 3: more question. What do you want to see from Trey

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Speaker 3: Lance in Game two?

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Speaker 5: Touch and decisiveness. I want to see him process more quickly.

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Speaker 5: I want to see him trust himself to make the

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Speaker 5: throws and to throw guys open as opposed to waiting

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Speaker 5: for them to become open. Because by the time you

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Speaker 5: wait for them to become open in the NFL, it's

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Speaker 5: too late.

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Speaker 4: It's too late.

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Speaker 5: You got to pull the trigger as the moment you

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Speaker 5: see that, take that risk, and yeah, sometimes it might

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Speaker 5: turn into a PBu, it might even turn into an interception.

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Speaker 5: But if you don't take those risks, it might never

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Speaker 5: turn into a touchdown or a chunk play or anything

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Speaker 5: like that. I want to see decisive. I want to

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Speaker 5: see touch on the passes. Too many of his passes

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Speaker 5: are sailing. I need to see those dropping more in

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Speaker 5: the bucket more often. But he made some good throws,

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Speaker 5: so the signs are there. Just got to keep hammering away.

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Speaker 3: And trusting your reads as well.

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Speaker 4: Trust that's a big part of that.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not going to add to that because that's fine,

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Speaker 6: that's what you need to do. But he also needs

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Speaker 6: to do get the damn ball in the end zone.

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Speaker 3: You need to see a touchdown, touchdown.

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Speaker 2: You're finish it in his zone. On top of that,

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Speaker 2: he does all that.

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Speaker 6: You gotta finish those those drives in his own because

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Speaker 6: you gotta score a touchdown perfectly.

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Speaker 4: In the air because we know he can run.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, no, yeah, but yeah, but first of all,

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Speaker 6: this game will get the team in the zone if

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Speaker 6: you if you run one end and fifty, that take it.

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Speaker 4: But but yeah, you want take it, you take it.

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Speaker 5: But there's a reason fourth and goal from the three

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Speaker 5: that they're throwing their balls trying to evaluate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, There's no question about it.

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Speaker 6: So you yeah, so throw the battle on time, get

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Speaker 6: the battle in the zone, uh score, that's what you

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Speaker 6: need from and just and continue to have some experience

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Speaker 6: and do some of those teams. But it's it's all

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Speaker 6: about trade. We again, we know what you got in Cooper.

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Speaker 6: You know what you got in that they need to

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Speaker 6: find out would have gotten the trade not just for

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Speaker 6: this year? Is he worth investing in the next year

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Speaker 6: as a backup court?

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Speaker 5: And the more the better we get from Trey over

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Speaker 5: the next two preseason games, the better we can evaluate

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Speaker 5: the wide receivers behind the Jalens right, and then we

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Speaker 5: can revisit that and actually have some some good data

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Speaker 5: on what they're trending towards.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I was asking. I think it was

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Speaker 3: last week about you know, his relationship with like who

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Speaker 3: has the best relationship with receiver wise? Based on the game,

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Speaker 3: it certainly looked like it. But I like the clarification there.

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Speaker 3: All right, boys, that'll be it for talking Cowboys. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for tuning in. We will be back

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Speaker 3: one more time from training camp live in our California

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Speaker 3: one more time next Monday. We will see you next time.

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