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Speaker 1: What it's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 3: Michael Very Show is on the air.

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Speaker 4: Disturbing allegations about a Q sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and

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Speaker 4: members of his social circle. Those allegations come from newly

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Speaker 4: unsealed documents from a now settled court case against Epstein

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Speaker 4: associate Elaine Maxwell. A woman claims that Maxwell groomed her

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Speaker 4: to be a sex slave to Epstein and was trafficked

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Speaker 4: to some of his most powerful associates.

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Speaker 5: As the training started. Immediately give Jeffrey what he wants.

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Speaker 5: A lot of this training came from gillin herself and

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Speaker 5: being a woman. It kind of surprises you that a

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Speaker 5: woman could actually let stuff like that happen, but not

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Speaker 5: only let it happen, but to groom into doing it.

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Speaker 6: No one knows what it's like to behaved, to be faded,

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Speaker 6: to say, lies.

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Speaker 7: Anti as my coship.

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Speaker 8: See he's be he's power players a priority for us

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Speaker 8: right now?

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Speaker 3: Can we even touch them?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: It's like everything you know, it hides in planes side.

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Speaker 3: Epstein was hiding in plane side.

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Speaker 7: We all knew about him, we all knew what he

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Speaker 7: was doing, but we had no one that would go

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Speaker 7: after him.

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Speaker 3: They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid.

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Speaker 7: The airplane that we flew on for this humanitarian mission

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Speaker 7: was owned by Jeffrey Epstein. And to then learn, oh,

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Speaker 7: he was actually on some of those flights, and this

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Speaker 7: Maxwell woman was on some of those flights. I didn't

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Speaker 7: know him. I've never spent any time with him. I

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Speaker 7: was with the Clinton Foundation people, That's who I was with.

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Speaker 9: She told me everything, she had pictures, she had everything.

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Speaker 9: She was in hiding for twelve years. We convinced her

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Speaker 9: to come out. We convinced her to talk to us.

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Speaker 9: It was unbelievable what we had Clinton, We had everything.

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Speaker 3: Zamty.

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Speaker 10: Asmuss to be There's no question executives at ABC protected

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Speaker 10: Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think they did that?

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Speaker 11: Well because their star anchor's name is George Stepanopolis, and

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Speaker 11: of course George Stepanopolis worked as Bill Clinton's communications director at.

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Speaker 3: The White House.

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Speaker 11: And when was all of this information being given to

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Speaker 11: Amy Orbach at ABC? When did she bring all of

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Speaker 11: this to her executives to say we should put this

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Speaker 11: on the air. Oh, right before a twenty sixteen president election,

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Speaker 11: when Hillary Clinton was running on the Democratic ticket.

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Speaker 10: At the time, Amy Robach took this story to her

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Speaker 10: superiors and they said, I don't know who Jeffrey Epstein is.

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Speaker 10: His name was already all over the news. Is a

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Speaker 10: convicted sexophone.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: One of the things you've been talking about on your

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Speaker 13: show is your allegation that government officials are aiding in pedaphelia,

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Speaker 13: child trafficking and.

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Speaker 3: The green of Joe. All right, what do you mean,

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Speaker 3: like what?

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Speaker 6: No one knows what it's like to be the bad man,

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Speaker 6: to be the.

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Speaker 8: Sad Every name released, one of them, and then I

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Speaker 8: want the prosecutions to begin. You ever noticed that when

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Speaker 8: an elected official gets in trouble, you know that they've

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Speaker 8: been caught with the goods dead to rights when they

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Speaker 8: the final step is Okay, I did it. I'll accept

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Speaker 8: my punishment. I'll resign. Nobody goes out to the plant

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Speaker 8: worker and see unit at DuPont and Orange and says, hey, Norman,

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Speaker 8: you've been stealing money from DuPont millions and millions of dollars.

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Speaker 8: You've killed five people, and you've covered all this stuff up.

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Speaker 8: We're going to put you in prison a long time.

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Speaker 8: We've got you here. It all is, We've got photographing okay.

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Speaker 3: All right, you got me.

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Speaker 8: I'll I'll leave my job here at DuPont, okay, and

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Speaker 8: then you just go do something else.

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Speaker 3: But it's as if if you're an elected official, you've.

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Speaker 8: Always got this get out of jail free card.

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Speaker 3: Literally where man, I mean, they got it.

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Speaker 14: They got to really really really really really have you

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Speaker 14: real bad and you go, all right, I'll step down,

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Speaker 14: and then the prosecutors go okay, and now it'll go away.

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Speaker 8: But the guy that owns that the local burger joint

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Speaker 8: doesn't get that. Let's go to Blake, Blake black a Europe.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I think you als would call the new guy

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Speaker 3: commodore Kenda. Why it just has the ring to it.

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Speaker 3: You asked for the nickname for him. I thought good nickname, Blake. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Commodore Kunda. I thought it was a good one. Not

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Speaker 3: gonna try again, Blake Anacunda.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, why you couldn't bury the lead.

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Speaker 3: That's ten times better than commodore Kunda. Did you just

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Speaker 3: come up with that on the fly? Yeah, because you

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Speaker 3: call me on the spot. Yeah, that was ten time.

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Speaker 3: That was good. That was good. It was really good.

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Speaker 3: All right? How old are you? Thirty one? Height, weight.

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Speaker 15: Five ten and a half and I lay about two

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Speaker 8: Okay, Nanda, you don't have to add the half. You're

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Speaker 8: five to ten.

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Speaker 2: What you are.

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Speaker 3: You got any hair?

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Speaker 16: Yes, sir?

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Speaker 3: What color is it?

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Speaker 3: Eye color?

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Speaker 16: Yeow?

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Speaker 3: You married?

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Speaker 2: Yes? There?

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Speaker 8: Religious affiliation if any?

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Speaker 3: Church of Christ?

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Speaker 17: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have any music. Did you go to

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Speaker 3: Abiline Christian?

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 18: Party in?

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Speaker 8: It was party in Arkansas? I had a classmate it

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Speaker 8: was Church of Christ. Went there'll be good school. What

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Speaker 18: Well, I'm kind of the great jobs.

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Speaker 2: I used to be a teacher getting a lot of

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Speaker 3: I can barely hear it, you.

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Speaker 15: Blake, Well, I used to be a teacher on I

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Speaker 15: teach tennis on the side, and I'm working on getting

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Speaker 15: a tickleball certification. But I'm actually working for a more

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Speaker 15: stable day job in the meantime as well, because I

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Speaker 15: don't want to go back into teaching if I can

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Speaker 3: Were you teaching in school or just a tennis lesson instructor.

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Speaker 15: In the school?

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Speaker 3: How much you get per tennis lessons?

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Speaker 15: Fifty dollars an hour?

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Speaker 3: And where were you teaching those? Some I'm on my

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Speaker 15: So I'm in my parents neighborhood in a task Casita

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Speaker 3: Where did you did you play high school? Did you

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Speaker 15: I chose not to play in college because there wasn't

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Speaker 3: Admit. I played for Summer Creek High School. How far

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Speaker 15: I just said number one varsity. We went to regionals once,

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of these pickleball bars popping up, and I,

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Speaker 8: you know, I don't know how I think.

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Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be some money and pickleball lessons.

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Speaker 3: I really do that might be worth your time.

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Speaker 17: And macuis doing Michael, I don't know how.

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Speaker 3: Getting her off mom. My favorite chest a song forgive

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Speaker 3: me time. And I don't think you do something.

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Speaker 19: I can't say today that I'm on right hurting by tone.

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Speaker 3: I don't think of something.

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Speaker 19: I'll find so many things to do that I'm on

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Speaker 19: have the time to think of her, and then if

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Speaker 19: she's still on my mind, I've tried to drink and

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Speaker 19: to drown with her, and if on her.

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Speaker 8: I don't think of something, you know, that's kind of

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Speaker 8: song where do I go for love? And I still

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Speaker 8: that vocal performance. You can't maintain that. Nobody can't, I

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Speaker 8: don't think. But that is the prettiest march. Yes, and

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Speaker 8: that's voice ever sounded. And and I would argue, there's

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Speaker 8: there's not There's only a handful of guys.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 8: I can't see that could that can put on a

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Speaker 3: You want to know.

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Speaker 8: I know I said it, but I was I was talking. Okay,

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Speaker 8: you want to know how many? How many's on my list?

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Speaker 8: You want to know how many guys have delivered a

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Speaker 8: vocal performance like that in country music?

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Speaker 3: How many? Seven? Okay? All right?

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Speaker 8: Let mean mark out old boys numbers. He was thirty one,

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Speaker 3: That's probably it.

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Speaker 8: In between jobs, Tennis instructor, Eagle point uh Top seven

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Speaker 8: gonna go with Don Gibson. I'm gonna go with Verne Gosden.

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Speaker 8: Some jackassid doesn't know country music and popped up two

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Speaker 3: Can you kiss me? Kenny? Kiss me?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Chesty? Can't be on any list except gay. That's it.

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Speaker 3: You don't put him on any other list.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I'm the only guy I know that can get

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a sign of insanity. That's not normal. Okay.

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Speaker 8: I got Don Gibson, I got Burn Gosden, I've got

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Speaker 8: George Jones, I've got etc. Because Earl Thomas Connley, Earl

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Speaker 8: Thomas Connley in Once in a Blue Moon is one

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Speaker 8: of the great vocal performances in all of music, across

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Speaker 8: got Don Gibson, Burn Gosden, George Jones, etc.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put Merle on there.

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Speaker 8: Merle Haggard has to be on there. Man, I'm gonna

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Speaker 8: taste something. It's gonna surprise you. I'm at five, so

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Speaker 8: I got two more. I'm gonna put Dac David allen

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Speaker 8: Coe in Jody like a Melody is as pretty you

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Speaker 8: don't think of David. You think of David Allen co

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Speaker 8: dropping in bombs, death, row cussing, fighting motorcycle gangs. But

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you this, that is as fine a

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Speaker 8: vocal performance. Now, don't confuse good song with vocal performance.

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Speaker 3: What about that? What the fellow who killed it? What

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Speaker 3: are you telling me? Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Johnny Ace, you're talking about.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he was at the children's he was at the

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Speaker 8: youth correctional facility, and uh, you know this is my story.

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Speaker 3: Stop all right? So I got Don Gibson verned guys.

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Speaker 8: Oh, oh, it's gonna surprise you, but it's what came

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Speaker 3: I don't want to.

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Speaker 8: I know y'all are out there going George, George straight,

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Speaker 8: George straight, and maybe it should be, maybe it should be.

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Speaker 8: But I'm gonna tell you who deserves to be at

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Speaker 8: top seven.

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Speaker 3: Sammy Kershaw, Sammy Kershaw.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna put sk right there, and I'm gonna put

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Speaker 8: It's a conversation that people have because they haven't had

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Speaker 8: Oh, I gotta take somebody off to put Mickey Gilly

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Speaker 12: Hell? Hello?

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Speaker 3: I've put Mickey in my top seven, So who am

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Speaker 3: I didn't say it take Mickey. You can't take George off?

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Speaker 12: Where that say over? You can lie up the dull

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Speaker 3: Explain but here and you don't.

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Speaker 8: See is this a little passive aggressive of it by

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Speaker 8: How come, Keith Whitley, how can you have a top seven?

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Speaker 8: You got to take one of these off. We'll take

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Speaker 8: Don Gibson off? Why because you literally don't know one

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Speaker 8: Take him off again? You're talking about things you don't

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Speaker 3: Take one off?

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Speaker 8: Put one on?

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Speaker 3: We didn't even announce it, And everybody's on the line

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Speaker 8: Yeah, take off VTC and put on Kenny Rogers, No way,

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Speaker 8: Kitty Rodgers. Not a great vocalist. Kenny Rodgers many many

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Speaker 3: No, he does have a distinctive voice, but not a

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Speaker 8: He's not His voice is not an instrument of beauty.

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Speaker 8: It's a good voice, it's not even a great voice.

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Speaker 8: And we're certainly not taking off etc. To put Kenny

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Speaker 3: Look, I really enjoyed talking to David Klingler yesterday. Teach

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Speaker 8: But I'm not I'm going to tell you he's the

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Speaker 2: Michael, I'm not versed in country music, but I do

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Speaker 2: have one. I don't think you guys rounded out the

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Speaker 2: A deep purple Smoke on the Water.

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Speaker 8: Okay, but I want you to understand what the category was,

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Speaker 8: and let's see if you still want to submit that.

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Speaker 8: The category was not seven greatest rock songs, although it

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Speaker 3: It was songs that are that are epic, truly epic,

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Speaker 8: Use that word sparingly, truly epic, songs that you've heard

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Speaker 18: I have to admit I like Keith Whitley and I

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Speaker 18: I heard your disagreement on that, but you also miss

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Speaker 18: Merle Hackard did not have Meryl.

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Speaker 8: I got him number five on my list right here.

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Speaker 8: I got Don Gibson, Verba Austin, George Jones, E, TC,

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Speaker 8: I didn't want to put Merle on there, if I

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Speaker 8: Is that his name?

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Speaker 12: Ramon?

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Speaker 8: I mean, if he stays healthy and he stays motivated,

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Speaker 3: The thing about Merle Haggard is he's a five to

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Speaker 8: He's he's one of the greatest songwriters of all time

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Speaker 3: It's cheap and cheesy and and plays to the lowest

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Speaker 8: Remember When is one of the most beautiful country songs

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Speaker 8: Uh you know who else I didn't put up here

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Speaker 8: And we're gonna we're gonna do swinging, and we're gonna

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's the That is the single greatest song

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Speaker 3: You're up? Bill dropped? Okay, Well maybe he won't make

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Speaker 18: Maybe he got my eighty ad on fired up here.

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Speaker 18: First he was talking about Epstein. Now country music and

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Speaker 18: Well it died in two thousand, But Cody Jenks and

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Speaker 8: And that is saying something because Clint Black, you know,

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Speaker 8: He has a keen appreciation for classic country, and he

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Speaker 8: But pretty much he's got a good head on his shoulder,

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Speaker 8: But you know, all the music that we're talking about

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Speaker 8: And we were talking about the the neo classical movement

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Speaker 8: a that's a beautiful that's a great time in country music.

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Speaker 16: When I was a kid, Uncle riam and supperbed me

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Speaker 16: to bed with a picture of stone walled Jackson above

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Speaker 16: my head. Then Daddy came in to kiss his little man,

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Speaker 16: with gin on his breath and a Bible in his hand.

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Speaker 16: He talked about honor and things I shouldn't know. Then

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Speaker 16: he staggered little as he went out the door. I

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Speaker 16: can still hear the soft southern winds and the live old.

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Speaker 3: Trees and those Williams boys.

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Speaker 16: They still mean a lot to me. Hain't him Tennessee,

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Speaker 16: I guess swell.

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Speaker 3: So dude, the good old boys. Like one of the

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Speaker 3: great honors of my life.

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Speaker 8: Was I wanted to track down Bob McDill who wrote

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Speaker 8: that song, so many of Don Williams's best songs.

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Speaker 3: And he was from Beaumont. Uh I think he was from.

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Speaker 8: Screen starts with a sea right outside of Beaumont.

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Speaker 3: Not Camden on the water, Camden on the lake. But

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Speaker 3: what's it called, uh, Conroe, It's like April sounding. He said.

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Speaker 3: It was used to play tennis. There a guy named

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Speaker 3: any One. He was a Ruben.

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Speaker 2: Darn it.

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Speaker 8: I can't remember what the call, but anyway, that's where

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Speaker 8: he was from. And I got an email from somebody

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Speaker 8: who was a listener who said, Bob mcdillan knows who

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Speaker 8: you are.

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Speaker 3: He's a fan, and he would welcome your call. He

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Speaker 3: authorized me to give you his number. I was like,

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Speaker 3: there's no way he lives in Nashville.

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Speaker 8: We were on in Nashville. There's no way he's listening

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Speaker 8: to me. And I called and it rang about eight

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Speaker 8: times because old people still have landlines, so you just

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Speaker 8: let it ring.

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Speaker 15: For you.

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Speaker 3: Remember the old days, you.

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Speaker 8: Go, hey, get the phone, and everybody would argue because

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Speaker 8: nobody wanted to get the phone. Like you would go

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Speaker 8: an entire day without talking to somebody on the phone.

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Speaker 8: That's so crazy to think there would be an entire

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Speaker 8: day that would go by. You didn't think anything of it.

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Speaker 8: You didn't call anybody, and nobody called you. Michael Robinson

487
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Speaker 8: made a line yesterday he said, Uh, I called him

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Speaker 8: on the phone. He said, I needed to know you

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Speaker 8: know what to do with So I called him on

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Speaker 8: the phone and I said, do you ever think how

491
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Speaker 8: funny that line is? How else would you call him?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 8: Hi, you called him on the phone. But there was

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Speaker 8: a time when you'd go to the it was a

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Speaker 8: it was an ordeal. You'd have to get the white

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Speaker 8: pages out or the yellow pages that was for white people,

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Speaker 8: devermund So you'd have the white Pages and the Yellow

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Speaker 8: Pages and you'd look.

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Speaker 3: Up the number and you'd get there and it had

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Speaker 3: been marked or whatever.

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Speaker 8: And you'd hear stories about businesses would go to the

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Speaker 8: public telephone and they would they would have it on

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Speaker 8: a on a thing like how you can't steal the

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Speaker 8: pen at stores and stuff they'd have it hooked so

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Speaker 8: you wouldn't steal their Yellow pages. And businesses would take

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Speaker 8: out their competitors' ads in the yellow page. They tear

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Speaker 8: them out so you couldn't you couldn't see them. Good

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Speaker 8: times that right there. But anyway, that that story was

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Speaker 8: about me bragging that Bob McDill knew.

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Speaker 15: Who I was.

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Speaker 8: In case you were wondering what that's what the point

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Speaker 8: of that story was. You know the point in your

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Speaker 8: life at which you decide I'm going to brag about

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Speaker 8: stuff that I'm proud of and you can choose whether.

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Speaker 3: To like it or not.

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Speaker 8: Because I enjoy hearing stories where I'm the hero that

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Speaker 8: I tell the point at which you reached that and

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Speaker 8: stop worrying what other people think about you.

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Speaker 3: You'll be a whole lot happier. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 8: Speaking of Happy Happy birthday to our friend Jason Mullen.

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Speaker 8: Jason Mullen owns top tax Defenders dot com. And they're

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Speaker 8: the people that when you get a letter from the irs,

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Speaker 8: they're the people who go to bat for you. And

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Speaker 8: we've had people I had I had a gathering of

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Speaker 8: people who had used Top Tax Defenders on our recommendation

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Speaker 8: and fought the IRS and won.

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Speaker 3: There was a guy who had a six that IRS

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Speaker 3: said they that he owed.

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Speaker 8: Six hundred thousand, six hundred twenty nine thousand for weird

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Speaker 8: memory for numbers, and they knocked it down to nothing

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Speaker 8: because it was an interpretation on a ruling and they

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Speaker 8: were right. There was another guy that the IRS said

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Speaker 8: he owed over eight hundred thousand, and they knocked it

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Speaker 8: all the way down to forty. Anyway, Jason Mullen, it

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Speaker 8: has been a show sponsor of our show Top Tax

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Speaker 8: Defenders dot Com for years and then when we went

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Speaker 8: national October seventh, or when we went into syndication with Premiere,

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Speaker 8: the same group that syndicated Rush, they were there were

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Speaker 8: three companies that immediately said in Houston that immediately said

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Speaker 8: we want a sponsor, because it's a separate deal in

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Speaker 8: sponsoring us in Houston, we want to sponsor him on

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Speaker 8: Premiere and that was US COINS Top Tax Defenders, and

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Speaker 8: well Berner because Berna was already on.

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Speaker 3: With us in Houston for the for the launchers.

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Speaker 8: Hey body notice that Sean Hannity says Berner. I wonder

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Speaker 8: if people hear him say that, but he does spell

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Speaker 8: it out.

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Speaker 4: B Y r n A.

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Speaker 8: I haven't seen Sean in a little while, but we're

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Speaker 8: going to be together in Palm Beach in early June,

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Speaker 8: and I am I'm going to do it. I'm gonna go, Sean.

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Speaker 8: I'm not making fun of you. I really want to

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Speaker 8: know if you realize you're saying Berner, and I guarantee

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Speaker 8: you he's going to go.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: He's from New York, so it's kind of a New

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Speaker 8: York thing. But I have decided that I'm going to

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Speaker 8: say it.

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Speaker 3: We have a good relationship.

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Speaker 8: It's not jocular the way it is with Ramon, where

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Speaker 8: I can go, Hey, your dumb ass, You're saying burner

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Speaker 8: and it sounds like a phone that you know is

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Speaker 8: your secondary phone, like your Tiger Woods for.

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Speaker 3: You side hustles, you side pieces. It's burn uh burn nuh, Sean.

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Speaker 8: I can't do that, but I will go, Hey, I

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Speaker 8: just out of curious, you know you and I both

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Speaker 8: speak for burn uh you know burn uh is and

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Speaker 8: then see how he responds.

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Speaker 3: We'll see anyway.

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Speaker 8: Happy birthday to Jason Mullen today Top tax Defenders dot

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Speaker 8: com am I forgetting somebody else that went national with

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Speaker 8: us on day one us coin uh huh us coins.

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Speaker 3: Top tax defenders.

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Speaker 8: I feel like there's somebody else and I'm forgetting, and

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Speaker 8: then they're going to be mad. By the way, I

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Speaker 8: just had a life changing experience.

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Speaker 3: Ramone and I are.

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Speaker 8: Both deeply invested in writing instruments, and I use a

579
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Speaker 8: blue and a red because everything is printed out in black.

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Speaker 8: I write using as you probably know, I write using

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Speaker 8: a pintel point five millimeter P two o five mechanical

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Speaker 8: pencil because that's what my father used and he got

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Speaker 8: me using that from an early early age, and so

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Speaker 8: I'm a partisan to the pentail P two o five

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Speaker 8: point five milimeter black with the silver trump However, I

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Speaker 8: use blue and red to mark things up when we're

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Speaker 8: on the show so things stick out. And then I

588
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Speaker 8: use a Sharpie brand highlighter and I use orange with

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Speaker 8: the smear guard because it sticks out the best. Needless

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Speaker 8: to say, we spend a lot of time talking about

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Speaker 8: writing instruments, and Ramone is always trying new writing instruments,

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Speaker 8: and it's sort of like me with cigars. I don't

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Speaker 8: like to try new stuff.

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Speaker 3: I like to have my thing. I drink the same

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Speaker 3: bottle of red wine, I drink the same beer. I drink.

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Speaker 8: I smoked the same cigar, and so I tell people,

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Speaker 8: don't don't give me anything other than what I do now.

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Speaker 8: I did try barre Fight whiskey because they asked me

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Speaker 8: to it.

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Speaker 15: I love it.

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Speaker 8: But anyway, I got to tell you about this pen.

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Speaker 8: It's it's made by Schneider. It's a point six milimeter.

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Speaker 8: This is the first one he's ever asked me to try.

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Speaker 8: It says one business own. It's made by Schneider s

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Speaker 8: C H N E I D E R. It says

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Speaker 8: point six millimeter for it says four documents. This is

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Speaker 8: the finest writing instrument I've ever held in my hand

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Speaker 8: for less than one hundred dollars. And I when you write,

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Speaker 8: it doesn't smear, which is a big deal to me.

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Speaker 3: This really is a This is a breakthrough ramon.

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Speaker 8: It's a Schneider brand point six millimeter. He gave me

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Speaker 8: the blue and he's just ordered twelve more.

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Speaker 3: This is really a game changer. This is huge. I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna write stories right now. Ste I thought it

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Speaker 3: was a felt tip. I don't want a felt tip,

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Speaker 3: but I I thought it was. I said no, no,

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Speaker 3: but it's not. But it looks like a felt tip