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Speaker 3: Welcome home. Y'all, it's Native Lampod here with the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 4: I'm Angela Raie, Andrew Gillam, Tiffany Crod, Leonard McKelvey, d
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Speaker 5: Where we at? Where we at?
Speaker 3: Huh not dj MVS HU HU.
Speaker 6: Yes, Howard person would say the real HU. But I
Speaker 6: know I just represented for Howard HBC.
Speaker 3: You love tonight. You got a lot of a love
Speaker 3: on the panel tonight. We before.
Speaker 7: Actually we should do a real call.
Speaker 8: Well we got called he you the Florida A and
Speaker 8: M University fam you.
Speaker 3: I have an honorary doctor from Wiley College.
Speaker 5: I got an honorary doctor from South Carolina State University.
Speaker 5: Bull Dogs.
Speaker 3: The real Hu Hampton University.
Speaker 1: Delaware State University is the building.
Speaker 7: Yeah, how much?
Speaker 9: How much student loan that up here?
Speaker 5: Though? Let's talk about that.
Speaker 8: I ain't got none.
Speaker 3: But it's all out and Obama was in, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So he took care of us. I
Speaker 3: was real good.
Speaker 8: But now we're on the campus of the Howard University,
Speaker 8: And I got to tell you, I think I was.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 8: I was feeling like tonight was gonna be significant in
Speaker 8: the first place, but to have the first time that
Speaker 8: a campus, a college campus is used in an election
Speaker 8: night victory for any candidate for president over the history
Speaker 8: of this country has never happened before.
Speaker 7: In the rst time it happens.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it happens on the grounds of the historically black
Speaker 8: college or university, the first for many, the founding place
Speaker 8: for almost every Black Greek organization, and I think a
Speaker 8: model for many hbc.
Speaker 7: Us around the country.
Speaker 8: Just excellent academics, excellent athletics, music, culture, access to government.
Speaker 7: It's an incredible school, a great representation of HBC used.
Speaker 3: Even what's happening here tonight.
Speaker 6: You know, we saw before we came on Live with
Speaker 6: you guys, the homecoming court walked down and we saw
Speaker 6: the young students and their crowns and you know, their
Speaker 6: royal regalia, and I just it felt like Wakanda come
Speaker 6: to life. And I think for any of us who
Speaker 6: attended HBCUs you hear people say, oh, I wish Wakanda
Speaker 6: was real, Well, it was real for us. Curents during
Speaker 6: that time, and I feel that here tonight. The Divine
Speaker 6: Nine just did a universal step show on stage, and
Speaker 6: then there's a lot of strolling happening, and I'm thinking
Speaker 6: about the people on the press risers who don't look
Speaker 6: like us, who are probably.
Speaker 1: White, you ude, everybody, like, what is going on on.
Speaker 7: This stumping everyone's jumping around with.
Speaker 1: They are jumping around for excitement for her, but also.
Speaker 3: It feels spiritual.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will just say, this is going to
Speaker 1: be the blackest election that covered you have today.
Speaker 3: This is a joy.
Speaker 1: It feels like a family union to be with y'all
Speaker 1: and in such a remarkable place. I have watched breakfast
Speaker 1: club sore politically like you guys engage and have talked
Speaker 1: to so many candidates and it was a necessary stop.
Speaker 3: Now it's a requirement.
Speaker 1: You guys for the first time are doing election night coverage,
Speaker 1: and I gotta know how it feels.
Speaker 5: I don't know yet. I'm waiting to see it for
Speaker 5: praying grandmother's because I believe in praying grandmother It's a
Speaker 5: whole lot of prying grandmothers all across the country tonight,
Speaker 5: So we're gonna see because if things don't go the
Speaker 5: way we want them to go. We're gonna have to
Speaker 5: think twice about the prying grandmother thing.
Speaker 7: About that.
Speaker 5: But every you got every black grandmother in America praying
Speaker 5: right now everything everyone.
Speaker 8: Yeah, come on now, yeah, God gave us choice.
Speaker 3: Though you are so confident earlier what happened.
Speaker 9: Oh I'm still confident. Okay, But where are we right now?
Speaker 5: Because people are texting my phone and people are saying
Speaker 5: things like should.
Speaker 9: We be paying it? And I'm like, what are you
Speaker 9: talking about?
Speaker 3: It's early, early, early, that's right.
Speaker 6: It's the likelihood of us knowing who the next president
Speaker 6: is tonight it's really slim. You'll recall in twenty twenty,
Speaker 6: we didn't know until the Saturday after Tuesday's election. And
Speaker 6: so I would tamper expectations here that we will actually
Speaker 6: will know somethings.
Speaker 8: Even if we don't have the total results from every state,
Speaker 8: certain precincts performed certain ways and states. For instance, in
Speaker 8: my state, I can tell you whether the redwoods are
Speaker 8: going to the super ruby redwood will be and if
Speaker 8: they are less than that, if the red is not
Speaker 8: as dark, meaning it's a light pink, which means some
Speaker 8: of those voters in those red districts have gone over
Speaker 8: and voted blue in those places, diminishing the power of
Speaker 8: the Republican voters.
Speaker 9: So we Day County came through for Trump today tonight, though.
Speaker 8: Day County has come through unfortunately the last three four cycles.
Speaker 3: I just want to say present Cuban that I asked
Speaker 3: the breakfast club folks how they felt about it.
Speaker 7: They wanteel good.
Speaker 1: They talk about it, but no only one talked about it.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I would say this.
Speaker 10: It's it's a feeling that I've It feels like a
Speaker 10: family REUNI. You're like larning and I went on the yard.
Speaker 10: We were partying with with the students, with the alumni.
Speaker 10: And it's not just Howard University students.
Speaker 3: It's all HBC.
Speaker 10: We've seen people from FAMUL, We've seen people from North Carolina,
Speaker 10: A and T. We see some hamp University people, some
Speaker 10: Morgan State people and they're just excited.
Speaker 3: They just they feel like they're scene finally.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and uh, it's a great opportunity just to be
Speaker 10: there with them, like it's like no other. Like I
Speaker 10: thought it was like homecoming, but this is better than
Speaker 10: a homecome. So I'm really enjoying the moment, what about you.
Speaker 3: I had ran into.
Speaker 5: Look like, you know what, drink.
Speaker 3: When you do you too much?
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I can't act up because Angela right up here you
Speaker 1: said that.
Speaker 3: I look like, yeah, I gotta be careful you Okay. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I had I was down.
Speaker 1: When we were walking back from the yard, I saw
Speaker 1: April Ryan. I was like, oh my god, is April Ryan.
Speaker 1: Then I was like, i'ma go over and said hi
Speaker 1: to her. And when I went over and we were talking,
Speaker 1: she came up here. She said the same thing. She
Speaker 1: was like, media, black media feels seen because it's like
Speaker 1: they in our home right now, anybody who doesn't look
Speaker 1: like us. Tonight we got to explain what has happened.
Speaker 1: But it's breaking down. You know, She's been on the
Speaker 1: hill for a very long time. She's been holding it down,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times she goes to battle with
Speaker 1: people who don't look like her.
Speaker 3: So she's like, oh, the it's reversed now.
Speaker 1: She was literally the only black representation we had in
Speaker 1: the White House pastry for a long time. So she
Speaker 1: you are watching black history, yay, Lauren, we love it.
Speaker 1: So one of the things that I think we should address,
Speaker 1: is this whole electoral college versus popular voting. A lot
Speaker 1: of people I've been asking questions about that. We got
Speaker 1: some smart folks up here who're taking it on. Tiffany Cross,
Speaker 1: look like you're ready.
Speaker 6: Well, I honestly think that is something I'm looking out
Speaker 6: for tonight, and I think there it will be. I've
Speaker 6: long said on NLP that I am anticipating political violence.
Speaker 6: I think the violence will happen in the courts, and
Speaker 6: I think there will be violence in the streets. Already
Speaker 6: we've seen fake electors in Wisconsin, people who have been
Speaker 6: alone action deniers put in positions of authority. We'll see
Speaker 6: tonight if Republican governors who did not if the election
Speaker 6: results did not go their way, will they certify results?
Speaker 3: We are at a time vote well, we don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 6: We are at a time where we are really questioning
Speaker 6: will people accept election results they don't like? Now, I
Speaker 6: will point out the slithering example out of Georgia when
Speaker 6: Donald Trump did ask the Secretary of State there to
Speaker 6: find him eleven thousand votes.
Speaker 3: Those Republicans said no.
Speaker 6: Right now, the election deniers have been elevated in their
Speaker 6: roles of power when we saw the insurrection here in Washington,
Speaker 6: DC and the nation's capitol on January sixth. This is
Speaker 6: a unique space. We have over thirty plus law enforcement agencies.
Speaker 6: When you consider electors out in some of these jurisdictions,
Speaker 6: they don't have that same level of protection.
Speaker 7: Well, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 10: Can you break down for like even my kids wanted
Speaker 10: to know, why did they have an electorial college? Why
Speaker 10: was it created? Like everybody says the popular vote for showIn,
Speaker 10: but it was created for a particular reason. Can you
Speaker 10: explain why it was created for people that don't don't know.
Speaker 7: Yes, it was a voting.
Speaker 3: Was really what it was? Were basically used.
Speaker 8: Well, the electoral college was was put into place because
Speaker 8: they feared the balance or populated states, the bigger states,
Speaker 8: the New York's of the time, the Pennsylvania's at the time,
Speaker 8: would basically use their populations, the Bigfoot, all of the
Speaker 8: agrarian areas, all the farmers. These are the planting class,
Speaker 8: the people who had the money.
Speaker 3: They did, but it was the mostly southern things.
Speaker 8: They were mostly Southern states who were afraid that Northeastern
Speaker 8: states populations would take them right, so they the Framers
Speaker 8: we were. We didn't have Confederates yet. The Framers at
Speaker 8: the time established that they would appropriate based off of
Speaker 8: UH populations and then allotting respective states to receive votes
Speaker 8: that they would then cast those votes in an electoral
Speaker 8: college convention for whoever would be president.
Speaker 1: I just I do want to point out that they
Speaker 1: did not have the Confederacy, but they had Confederate mentality already,
Speaker 1: and it absolutely electoral college is a vestige of slavery
Speaker 1: and is absolutely racistic.
Speaker 8: Preceded slavery, but that's not It preceded slavery's ending. Yes,
Speaker 8: but the country don't ever having to give votes to
Speaker 8: black people.
Speaker 7: Didn't consist of this.
Speaker 9: And they split over the fact. Didn't some of them
Speaker 9: want the popular vote?
Speaker 5: But then somebody wanted Congress to be able to decide
Speaker 5: the president.
Speaker 3: They wanted electors, They.
Speaker 8: Wanted the people to inform who the delegates would be
Speaker 8: to the.
Speaker 7: Convention to decide the press.
Speaker 3: So why can't we get rid of it now?
Speaker 7: That was a constitutional amends.
Speaker 8: Republicans will allow basically the electoral college to be delist.
Speaker 8: They have for powertcha that more power into that system, Iowa,
Speaker 8: none of us are moving there that state will remain
Speaker 8: what it looks like, and therefore they're the to continue
Speaker 8: to be able to bigfoot over states, like there's no
Speaker 8: reason California that basically half the vote that comes out
Speaker 8: of that state means nothing.
Speaker 5: Andrew, how big of a deal with the Iowa poll
Speaker 5: this week that came out?
Speaker 7: Big ass deal.
Speaker 8: Okay, there's a big deal because the last president to
Speaker 8: win the state of Iowa's Barack Obama. And again at
Speaker 8: that time, it was by close margins. They were just
Speaker 8: polled six months before and Donald Trump had a twenty
Speaker 8: seven twenty seven point lead.
Speaker 7: To look now and.
Speaker 8: See that she crept up to potentially three points ahead
Speaker 8: of him in a three point you know, margin of
Speaker 8: era is incredible, and it's likely because of the abortion
Speaker 8: bad that was implemented in that state has had now
Speaker 8: almost seven six months out ago.
Speaker 7: And people don't like what they're seeing, right.
Speaker 6: You know, we're saying it's incredible, and yes, it is
Speaker 6: incredible in terms of what we know about the country.
Speaker 6: But I want to punctuate that point with its fucking incredible.
Speaker 3: That she is in competition with this half witted man.
Speaker 1: Is everything he has done, The fact that the race
Speaker 1: is this is close is a travesty. I'm so proud
Speaker 1: as a black person and perfectly a black woman to
Speaker 1: see the most qualified woman who has worked in every
Speaker 1: branch of government, the executive, the legislative. While she hasn't
Speaker 1: worked in the judicial, but she was on the Cristiary committee.
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, she had Yes, precisely, so she had
Speaker 1: a role in the judiciary branch as well. This man
Speaker 1: has no plans, no experience. His first job in government
Speaker 1: was as President of the United States.
Speaker 6: And the race is this close. So I trust that
Speaker 6: America will do the right thing tonight. But I've been
Speaker 6: saying either way, America will get the.
Speaker 3: President they deserve tonight. Yes, that's what I'm gonna ask you.
Speaker 1: So with everything that you just said, right, it being
Speaker 1: that close, when Kamala wins, what is she up against?
Speaker 1: Because we talk about a lot about like, no, you
Speaker 1: still got to challenge your person that you want to win.
Speaker 3: You still got to what is she up against?
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of people because that margin is close,
Speaker 1: that are like, she shouldn't be there. What does that
Speaker 1: look like? What does the first day out look like,
Speaker 1: first week out? Well, she's gonna have to use her
Speaker 1: executive power. On day one, we'll have to see what
Speaker 1: the legislative branch looks like. We'll democrats, right, what will
Speaker 1: Democrats control?
Speaker 6: Will Democrats control the Senate? Will Democrats control the House?
Speaker 6: I will will jump out and say I think Democrats
Speaker 6: will take the House, which will give us another historic
Speaker 6: position in making Congressman from Brooklyn Hakim Jeffries the first
Speaker 6: black Speaker of the House, the first black male Speaker
Speaker 6: of the House.
Speaker 3: So I can imagine that there are some pockets of
Speaker 3: conservative America that will lose their mind, and I think
Speaker 3: she will be if this.
Speaker 6: If the Republicans control the Senate, it can be a deadlock.
Speaker 6: I mean, because that is the courts, that's where you
Speaker 6: confirm justices. So it can be challenging. On the other
Speaker 6: side of that, though, she will also have to confront
Speaker 6: demands on the left. She's made some strange bedfellows in
Speaker 6: bringing coalitions together this cycle, and she has extended herself
Speaker 6: to Republicans. She has promised Republicans' positions in the cabinet.
Speaker 6: She's promised to have a bipartisan legislation. And so I
Speaker 6: think on our side it's people who support her. For sure,
Speaker 6: we still have to hold her accountable to our agenda.
Speaker 6: And there are people who want for sure absolutely uh
Speaker 6: ceasefire in Gaza. She's gonna have to deal with that.
Speaker 6: The black Man agenda that she put out, that was
Speaker 6: a plan. I want to see it execute it, so
Speaker 6: she she will have her hands full.
Speaker 5: I want to ask you about that if if if
Speaker 5: she loses, which which I don't think she will, I
Speaker 5: don't know, but would that be a testament to like,
Speaker 5: do big do big tent politics still work?
Speaker 9: Or should you be focusing on niche groups?
Speaker 5: You can't because she brought together Republicans, she brought together progressives,
Speaker 5: She's brought together you know, black men, Latino men. If
Speaker 5: do big tent politics still work or should be focused?
Speaker 9: Should you be focused on I think that.
Speaker 3: Is big ten politics to focus.
Speaker 5: I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: If she loses, though, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: No, I think should should she lose, which again I
Speaker 6: don't think that's gonna happen. Should she lose, I would
Speaker 6: say that the country has shown yet again that they
Speaker 6: do not want a black woman as president. Even when
Speaker 6: you see a lot of the exit polls and you're
Speaker 6: asking people what are your issues that you care about.
Speaker 6: And you have people in Wisconsin san immigration, what is
Speaker 6: your big immigration and with immigration issue in Wisconsin, that
Speaker 6: is subtext to me for I don't want these black
Speaker 6: and brown people taking over the country. I think we
Speaker 6: have to look ahead and start moving in conviction. By
Speaker 6: the year twenty forty four, there will be no racial
Speaker 6: majority in this country. So I think big tent politics
Speaker 6: includes all of us. And this is the time that
Speaker 6: we're seeing what does a government that is for the people,
Speaker 6: buy the people of the people look like what it
Speaker 6: includes all of us? Before we would have to wait
Speaker 6: what the white folk's gonna do, how they gonna vote.
Speaker 6: I think we have to let go of that frame
Speaker 6: of thought, and I think this election tonight will show
Speaker 6: that is an antiquated way of thinking and moving forward.
Speaker 6: We finally have the privilege to vote with our convictions
Speaker 6: and not wait to be led by the white voting
Speaker 6: block in this country.
Speaker 8: Charlam Mane, I think the last time we're in the
Speaker 8: last stages of why big tick politic politics explain You're right.
Speaker 8: So typically, if you're a Republican, you can rely on
Speaker 8: the fact that the color of your skin is largely
Speaker 8: going to be the prerequisite to you being a member
Speaker 8: of the party. That's why it is the whitest party
Speaker 8: of the two party system. Democratic side. Our coalition is
Speaker 8: built up in order to get to fifty plus one,
Speaker 8: which is half plus one person or one vote. You've
Speaker 8: got to be able to if the color of our
Speaker 8: skin is not the thing that unites us under one party,
Speaker 8: because we're not enough. We may get eleven percent of
Speaker 8: the population, we need the other forty whatever to get
Speaker 8: us over. And so if the Democratic Party has to
Speaker 8: get a slice of the Latino community, we have to
Speaker 8: get a slice of the white female vote. We even
Speaker 8: have to earn a slice of white male votes. And
Speaker 8: our coalition right now LGBT go beyond that and list
Speaker 8: all of the others.
Speaker 7: That's what the party's made up of.
Speaker 8: And it's politics is about that complex because you got.
Speaker 7: To meet everybody where you know where their need is.
Speaker 8: And unfortunately, right now, the white majory, already, the white
Speaker 8: conservative majority is still quite frankly.
Speaker 7: Close to fifty one percent.
Speaker 8: So they could vote together and still be able to
Speaker 8: hold this thing. But soon, and you've already pointed out,
Speaker 8: it won't be enough to just say we're in community
Speaker 8: because we're the majority because we're all white, Gona, they're
Speaker 8: gonna have to do and say more to bring more
Speaker 8: people their direction or for them to win elections. I'd
Speaker 8: like to ask y'all as a call and show you
Speaker 8: get the voce from from the American people very directly,
Speaker 8: almost every single day. And I'd love to hear when
Speaker 8: did the tenor of your listeners begin to shift to
Speaker 8: a place where it was no longer just skeptical of
Speaker 8: a Kamala Harris, but it began to really embrace what
Speaker 8: a Kamala Harris.
Speaker 7: President's it could look like.
Speaker 5: I don't even know.
Speaker 7: Maybe that's on the other side of they have you.
Speaker 9: I still didn't, you're not convined. I still didn't feel
Speaker 9: that totally yet.
Speaker 3: Now I can tell you when it happened for me personally.
Speaker 1: When if I remember when it was first and ounced
Speaker 1: I was talking to Charlamagne about it.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I was like, I don't know if this
Speaker 3: is the way.
Speaker 1: Like I was nervous because I felt like she had
Speaker 1: been pushed to the back behind Biden. I mean, she's VP,
Speaker 1: so like you know she has to be there, But
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if the push can
Speaker 1: be strong enough, cause it was just it was such
Speaker 1: a great cloud over it.
Speaker 3: And then that.
Speaker 1: First day I was like, oh, like this was the
Speaker 1: answer the whole time, like just sit right here. I
Speaker 1: saw the way that the world was reacting to her,
Speaker 1: and it's the momentum. And I felt like, Okay, if
Speaker 1: she really knows herself what she does, if she's really qualified, qualified,
Speaker 1: what she is, she has the background, what she does,
Speaker 1: all she need is the platform people, And I was here,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: And I think people realize when when I think people
Speaker 10: started not liking Joe Biden, when they started seeing I
Speaker 10: would say early signs of dementia where he just didn't
Speaker 10: seem no. I would say that, and I think people
Speaker 10: that was the truth.
Speaker 3: That's what I seen.
Speaker 9: I said.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, ain't got dementia. I wish y'all
Speaker 3: was stopped up. It's given.
Speaker 1: That's something that we don't know. There was something happening.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't right, and I think a way out.
Speaker 10: And when they see Kamala, I think it was like, Wow,
Speaker 10: she is what people are saying. And then when they
Speaker 10: need to talk to when you start seeing her speak
Speaker 10: and see who she is.
Speaker 9: I mean, he's not wrong.
Speaker 5: It was when that money started coming in, when she
Speaker 5: raised all that money.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, she locked up the delegates
Speaker 1: and third, yeah, I'm like, I don't know. People realize
Speaker 1: like this don't be happening, like a black woman is
Speaker 1: like yeah, well, you guys, speaking of big tints, I
Speaker 1: think it's really important for us to recognize there was
Speaker 1: a big tint on the stage that that was there
Speaker 1: was a powerful moment and its display of black unity.
Speaker 1: Normally you see these folks as step shows and it's
Speaker 1: a battle.
Speaker 3: It's a full on battle. It's a full on battle.
Speaker 3: And today we have them joining us.
Speaker 1: It is the d nine. Everybody, the Divine nine ers
Speaker 1: line up behind us us, y'all, come on, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, got the Alphas, the Kappas, the Delta right here,
Speaker 1: high road to Zada.
Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, hey, hey, hey, all right, y'all, you guys
Speaker 3: can line up in front of a I'm missing, wrap
Speaker 3: around and line up in front.
Speaker 1: Just watch that phone. Honey, there you go. You're all good. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: can't feeling right here? I got a so we I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pass this mic is on. I'm gonna passy all
Speaker 1: this mic. Talk to us about how you're feeling tonight.
Speaker 1: It's on. Yes you can, okay, Okay, here we go,
Speaker 1: it's on. Is it on?
Speaker 3: It's on? She didn't hear me. The question was, how
Speaker 3: are you all feeling tonight? We're good, We're feeling very excited.
Speaker 3: Hell us your name and where you're from. My name
Speaker 3: is Imani Smith. I'm from Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 1: All right, West Coast. All right, tell us how you're feeling, y'all.
Speaker 1: We have another mic. Where is it? Lenard?
Speaker 3: Right, this one's on check check checks on. Now you
Speaker 3: can just pass them down. Yes.
Speaker 7: Hello. My name is Jamari Robinson.
Speaker 10: I'm a junior Criminology and Plogic Science double major Military
Speaker 10: Sciens minor from Columbus, Georgia by Publish, Florida.
Speaker 7: And I feel great tonight. See history be made?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: Hello everyone. My name is Lauren Marshall.
Speaker 1: I'm a senior health Sciences major from the biggest city
Speaker 1: in the best city, Chicago, Illinois.
Speaker 3: All right, Hi, everybody. My name is Aaria Jones.
Speaker 6: I'm a junior Human development major from Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Atlanta.
Speaker 7: Hi.
Speaker 3: My name is Taylor Beard.
Speaker 1: I'm a junior journalist major business administration minor from Saburn, Maryland.
Speaker 3: Right, hey, gentlemen, Dlston got the mic? Yep, yeah.
Speaker 5: Hi.
Speaker 9: Branda McCaskill.
Speaker 5: Uh, junior finance major from Detroit, Michigan. I feel extremely
Speaker 5: excited about tonight. I think we're all very very proud
Speaker 5: of our university and the products of it, and you know,
Speaker 5: thankful to be here for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh you you Boston up? Uh huh, yup, yup.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 1: My name is Kirsten Branch and I'm from Houston, Texas.
Speaker 3: Alright, h town?
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 3: Next fellok, ahead yourself? Where are you from? Where you're from?
Speaker 8: Hi?
Speaker 7: Y'all doing? My name is Mikaye Manuel.
Speaker 10: I'm a junior sports medicine major psychology mine from Queens,
Speaker 10: New York.
Speaker 3: Queens Radio, sir.
Speaker 7: All right, Hello, my name is Jay Armant.
Speaker 5: I'm a senior journalism major business administration miner from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9: Well, hep you' all.
Speaker 4: My name is Josh George Louis I am a graduating
Speaker 4: senior music education major classical voice miner from Houston, Texas
Speaker 4: by way of Blackfia, Louisiana.
Speaker 3: Hie.
Speaker 1: Hello everyone, my name is Devin McDaniel. I am a
Speaker 1: senior finance major from Trenton, New Jersey.
Speaker 3: All right, that can we get everybody? Hello? Everyone? My
Speaker 3: name is Kaliah Leech.
Speaker 6: I am a senior public relations major sports administration miner
Speaker 6: from Baltimore, Maryland.
Speaker 7: I think Mike Ovin. Hello.
Speaker 3: My name is Brice Face. I'm a junior health science major.
Speaker 11: Buys your miner from Berkeley Heights, New Jersey.
Speaker 5: How you doing?
Speaker 7: My name is Jordan News.
Speaker 1: I'm a senior Biology Honors major Kevishrmano from Brooklyn, New York.
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Speaker 7: So I pray that everything is going well.
Speaker 12: But I think that with democracy on the ballot, it's
Speaker 12: super important that we have somebody that is standing as
Speaker 12: a beacon of hope in the same way that hopefully we're.
Speaker 7: Able to be.
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Speaker 1: If you're just now joining us, we are live at
Speaker 1: the Mecca at h U how University in Washington, DC,
Speaker 1: where Kamala Harris is expecting to address a very large,
Speaker 1: lively step dance and crowd tonight. So anyway, we are
Speaker 1: back at it, and we were talking about it how
Speaker 1: we're feeling. We asked the young people, any numbers, any numbers?
Speaker 3: Well right now?
Speaker 9: Should we even be looking at numbers right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: That's the thing, you know, I can't help it. You
Speaker 6: get like little increments of numbers coming in. I don't
Speaker 6: know that.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 6: They will announce on the screen over there, so we'll
Speaker 6: see when they start projecting states.
Speaker 10: For any time I'm here him charing, that usually means
Speaker 10: we have some want to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Then I think the other.
Speaker 1: Thing to know is overall, if maybe we can talk
Speaker 1: overall vote count. Harris right now has twenty six million,
Speaker 1: nine hundred and sixty undred and twenty eight votes. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has thirty million, one hundred and seventy nine nine
Speaker 1: hundred ninety three votes and others. Other candidates have a
Speaker 1: seven hundred and forty five thousand plus vote, So that's
Speaker 1: a significant.
Speaker 3: Number for for the others.
Speaker 1: Maryland, Massach since New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington
Speaker 1: d C. Have all been called for Kamala project She's
Speaker 1: projected to win those states and Mississippi SORR at the
Speaker 1: top here. She expected to win Delaware too, are the
Speaker 1: ESKI Delaware? Yeah, I'm sorry, Henny, I voted for her
Speaker 1: in Delaware. You said I made that?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Way to go in the our South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas,
Speaker 1: West Virginia, and.
Speaker 3: Wyoming have all been projected.
Speaker 6: I wonder if I have because in Delaware we also
Speaker 6: stand to get another black woman like the Senate Senator
Speaker 6: Lisa Blunt Rochester.
Speaker 3: Has that race been called? Do we have data on that?
Speaker 1: I don't see that on T Well, I'm gonna twitter,
Speaker 1: y'all got the official summer here with.
Speaker 6: Her at Senator Lisa Blunt Rochester. Assuming that will happen,
Speaker 6: another call on daisas yes.
Speaker 1: Has been called a fifty six point four percent of
Speaker 1: the vote.
Speaker 3: She is a actually a senator. She will be with you,
Speaker 3: sworn absolutely.
Speaker 6: In Maryland, you also have another black woman poised to
Speaker 6: go to the Senate and that.
Speaker 3: Has not been called.
Speaker 1: But she it looks like she's winning right now. She's
Speaker 1: leading with uh fifty percent of the voter in fifty
Speaker 1: five point four percent to forty two point six percent.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's not called, but she's got
Speaker 1: a wrong's former governor Larry Hogan in Maryland.
Speaker 6: Republican governor that she's squaring off again. So if you
Speaker 6: can't see what's happening behind us, there is a massive
Speaker 6: crowd right here on Howard's campus who are excited, two
Speaker 6: thousand people.
Speaker 3: I agree, it's the see of us and it looks beautiful.
Speaker 5: I think they've been serving food, Tiffany, because everybody over
Speaker 5: there got quiet and still they were dancing and all
Speaker 5: kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3: A little that is true. Maybe they all went to
Speaker 3: Chick fil A like you, or maybe anestly they maybe
Speaker 3: Lenard is projecting, y'all know, was it? They weren't dancing,
Speaker 3: they were going like line they.
Speaker 7: Were the wobble.
Speaker 10: They've been here for a long time. They've been for
Speaker 10: at least five six o'clock dancing from.
Speaker 3: Five tired, so well they stay here the entire time.
Speaker 5: Ok. Yeah, she will speak tonight, right regardless.
Speaker 3: Yes, she will come out and address the crowd at
Speaker 3: some point.
Speaker 6: But again, I you know, I don't think that she
Speaker 6: will be able to declare anything tonight. And even if
Speaker 6: she were, I wonder, Lisa, we can confirm that Senator
Speaker 6: Lisa Blunt Rochester is a senator. Angela said, I want
Speaker 6: to shout out loans on the side.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you could hear. She might not
Speaker 3: be able to hear us. Yeah, she needs some hand phone.
Speaker 3: She needs some handphones immediately because she didn't hear us
Speaker 3: call that race already.
Speaker 6: But thank you, that's the case. We miss it, So
Speaker 6: thank you.
Speaker 5: Surprises.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna tell you guys, and they
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna laugh at me crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm an optimist. Okay, what did I do?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 3: He keeps? I thought she said I'm driving. Well, I
Speaker 3: was just gonna say.
Speaker 1: When we did our live show from fam you on Friday,
Speaker 1: we have the state director from Harris for president. On it,
Speaker 1: she said she thought that Florida would surprise us, that
Speaker 1: she thought was trending in the right direction. But I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, this is not the right direction direction
Speaker 1: what I think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so kind of you. I did. I didn't
Speaker 3: think Florida.
Speaker 6: You know, Florida for the people out there who are
Speaker 6: younger and may not remember, Florida used to be a
Speaker 6: purple state, which it was a swing state. You didn't
Speaker 6: know which way it was going to go. Ohio same thing,
Speaker 6: used to be a swing state. And now they're not
Speaker 6: the political jaganauts that they once were. Florida is solid red,
Speaker 6: Ohio is solid red. Has gone Republican in the past
Speaker 6: I think four election cycles. So we are really looking
Speaker 6: at a brand new electoral map here tonight. And it's
Speaker 6: crazy because the entire landscape the map has been thrown
Speaker 6: out since twenty sixteen. I know we have our brother
Speaker 6: here from Florida tonight. But Lenard, you'll recall how I
Speaker 6: feel about Florida.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, you called it the victom of the country country.
Speaker 3: Wait, what excuse me? Florida the country?
Speaker 7: I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh, I was just that called me off guard. I
Speaker 1: did well, there actually is shadow around Florida. I mean really, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I would tell you why I did not.
Speaker 6: I will tell you why, because it has become a
Speaker 6: safe haven for white supremacists. If you look at activity
Speaker 6: down there. The FBI has already documented and confirmed that
Speaker 6: the greatest domestic security threat is uh white supremacy, white
Speaker 6: supremacy groups, and that is largely concentrated in Florida, so
Speaker 6: much so that there was a challenge in the punitive
Speaker 6: system down there in the prisons where the prison guards
Speaker 6: were also members of white supremacy gangs and abusing the
Speaker 6: prisoners there. So it's prevalent in every part of government
Speaker 6: uh in in Florida. So yeah, Florida can get castrated.
Speaker 6: Except for Andrews every other sentence saying.
Speaker 5: You know, the craziest people in America come from the
Speaker 5: Bronx and all of Florida, Tiffany want to castraight double.
Speaker 5: What were you able to do in Florida, Andrew? That
Speaker 5: was different than other politicians.
Speaker 8: I one, I don't think Florida is solidly read. I
Speaker 8: think they have beat Democrats into submission in Florida. You know,
Speaker 8: when you win so much of you then win and
Speaker 8: you change the laws to favor you. It's hard to
Speaker 8: compete in the system that is so terribly imbalanced. Right,
Speaker 8: But in our race, I mean we had to literally,
Speaker 8: I mean I spent two years knocking on doors and
Speaker 8: talking to people who don't get talked to in politics
Speaker 8: to convince them one that the government was something that
Speaker 8: should work for them, and two that if I get elected,
Speaker 8: if it isn't a government that serves you, we're going
Speaker 8: to bend it so that it does. And if it
Speaker 8: doesn't bend, then we'll break it and we'll start again
Speaker 8: so that it meets your needs. And I think we
Speaker 8: were able to convince a lot of people that vision
Speaker 8: was possible. Now Republicans again, they've taken the state. If
Speaker 8: you're Walt Disney World, the biggest corporation in the state
Speaker 8: of Florida, and a governor literally kicks your teeth in
Speaker 8: and sets an example for any other corporation in the state,
Speaker 8: if you step outside of line, like the Gestapo outcome
Speaker 8: and get you, then you start to quell a lot
Speaker 8: of opposition voices under that environment. That's exactly what Trump
Speaker 8: wants to replicate in the country. He wants things to
Speaker 8: happen because he said, so.
Speaker 3: Happened.
Speaker 5: Somebody did text me and they said, Iowa.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 9: They didn't give me no car.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm a refresh. I'm a refresh.
Speaker 8: If that were Iowa, that we'd be deafening sound right
Speaker 8: now maybe, And they just said Iowa.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you'all right now see one minute, Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris will.
Speaker 5: Text back and said what happened? But they ain't text
Speaker 5: me back yet.
Speaker 3: I don't have a car.
Speaker 5: Said that Trump is a narrower clear favorite to win
Speaker 5: Georgia and North Carolina. If he does carry those states,
Speaker 5: Harris would need to sweep Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin to win,
Speaker 5: a real possibility with a tall order.
Speaker 7: Nonetheless, it is a tall order.
Speaker 3: But I think she shall hold the blue wall they
Speaker 3: call it some states. This is frustrated. We're at also
Speaker 3: behind behind us. They're like, let me tell you she
Speaker 3: won New York. That's called that. Okay, that's what I was.
Speaker 3: That's what I saw a minute ago.
Speaker 1: But I didn't know if Yeah, that's called Rhode Island.
Speaker 1: Did I say Rhode Island? I fell and knew elect.
Speaker 3: I mean, let me let me use my little handed dandage.
Speaker 6: Vice President Harris now has ninety nine electro votes, Okay.
Speaker 8: One hundred and seventy eight oh so minus still say
Speaker 8: it's about one hundred short of and.
Speaker 3: The polls still haven't closed on the West coast.
Speaker 7: Correct, no, not yet.
Speaker 9: But none of the battlegrounds have come in yet, right right.
Speaker 8: None of the battlegrounds that matter for Kamala Harris have
Speaker 8: come in. Well, it looks like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin
Speaker 8: of course is still out.
Speaker 10: Let me ask you guys a question for the younger
Speaker 10: people that are watching right now, why would they want
Speaker 10: to jump into politics?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 10: Because you look at politics and you see that they
Speaker 10: go into your life, They attack your family, they attack
Speaker 10: your values, they attack your morals, they make up stuff.
Speaker 10: Why would somebody young, why would you tell them it's
Speaker 10: a good reason to get into politics.
Speaker 6: I think I'm feeling for my brother Andrew here, but
Speaker 6: I think one thing that white supremacy has done Andrew again,
Speaker 6: these are Andrews words. It I'm stealing, but they have
Speaker 6: captured our imagination. They have taken our ability away to
Speaker 6: imagine what democracy would look like if we are its architects.
Speaker 6: And so the same thing that we tell people about voting.
Speaker 6: You try to give people. If you stop ten young
Speaker 6: people and say, okay, you're in charge of this five
Speaker 6: block radius. You in charge of when the trash gets
Speaker 6: picked up, You in charge of where they go to school.
Speaker 6: You in charge of how the school looks.
Speaker 3: You in charge of.
Speaker 6: How much taxes people are going to pay, and to
Speaker 6: keep all this functioning. You get to run all of that.
Speaker 6: That's why you go into politics, because you get to
Speaker 6: shape what society looks like when it includes you. And
Speaker 6: so if you give it to people that way, where
Speaker 6: it's a blank wall and you can be the architect
Speaker 6: of democracy, how do you want to shape it? That's
Speaker 6: an incredible amount of power and an incredible amount of privilege.
Speaker 6: The question is do you want to rule or do
Speaker 6: you want to lead? If you want to lead, this
Speaker 6: is the perfect time to get into politics, and I
Speaker 6: would encourage people to do. And you don't have to
Speaker 6: be the candidate. You can be a campaign manager, you
Speaker 6: can be a fundraiser, you can be you can work
Speaker 6: on a campaign as any of these numbers of communications director.
Speaker 6: There's so much that that that can impact political campaigns.
Speaker 6: What would you say Andrew, because you actually were a
Speaker 6: candidate and what made you ian man has been elected?
Speaker 3: That you were what eighteen?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean well, the last time I lost an
Speaker 8: election was third grade and from that point all the
Speaker 8: way through until I was forty, you know, forty one
Speaker 8: years old, I held the elective office. And for me,
Speaker 8: I almost think it's an instinct that when you see
Speaker 8: something that's wrong that you don't like, and it frustrates
Speaker 8: you so much to see it wrong every day in
Speaker 8: and every day out, the people who are different are
Speaker 8: likely to figure out a path to how it is
Speaker 8: that they shift that thing that brings them annoyance every day.
Speaker 8: And if that annoyance is greater than an annoyance means
Speaker 8: your livelihood, meaning you're sick of watching your mother struggle
Speaker 8: to pay rent or mortgage, or your father, you know,
Speaker 8: who suffers some from alcoholism because of his frustration on
Speaker 8: the job that he can never move up, then the
Speaker 8: urgency around how you shift the system becomes that much
Speaker 8: greater for you. So for me, it almost felt like
Speaker 8: a reflexive instinct that if the shit ain't right, then
Speaker 8: you do something to make it right.
Speaker 10: But how does it make you feel when you you know,
Speaker 10: you started so early, you did what you were supposed
Speaker 10: to do, you followed the rules, and then you see
Speaker 10: somebody like a Donald Trump, who really wasn't a politician,
Speaker 10: came from nowhere, show signs of racism to me and
Speaker 10: all the different things, grabbing him by the pussy and
Speaker 10: all the things that he said, and it seems like people.
Speaker 3: Just say, huh, it is and they elect him as president.
Speaker 7: I mean, how he's going against Kamalaharas. That just seems
Speaker 7: I think bed fellows.
Speaker 8: Bedfellows, you know, get to bed very strangely sometimes, and
Speaker 8: his case, it's so much easier to united people around
Speaker 8: a fight against extinction. Like if you feel viscerally that
Speaker 8: everything you know love about a place and that you
Speaker 8: want your child to grow in and also experience about
Speaker 8: a place, yes, you're gonna fight heaven and earth to
Speaker 8: keep that thing for them because you think it means
Speaker 8: their future, their future prosperity. If I had to guarantee
Speaker 8: that if I voted this way, my children's life would
Speaker 8: be better, they would experience it better, and you'd have
Speaker 8: a guarantee that that was the case. I'd be blindly
Speaker 8: Republican too if that was the party offering that right.
Speaker 10: But let me ask you, Angela and Tiffany, how do
Speaker 10: you deal with the fake news so much? Because people,
Speaker 10: You know, this is one thing that Charlemagne and Lauren
Speaker 10: will say. People call the radio and they don't know
Speaker 10: what's true and what's not right. You know, we say
Speaker 10: look it up, but when they.
Speaker 3: Google half the time what you're looking for, so they
Speaker 3: don't know how to find what's proper.
Speaker 10: They hear a candidate and the candidate is lying, say
Speaker 10: they don't know who they should agree. So what do
Speaker 10: you tell those people? Because they are trying to do
Speaker 10: their homework. They are trying to do their research, but
Speaker 10: a lot of the research is bs.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 6: You know, people will disagree with me because they say
Speaker 6: you can never blame voters, and I'm probably a unique
Speaker 6: voice in which I will sometimes blame voters. It is
Speaker 6: a response ability to participate in democracy. So people who say, well,
Speaker 6: I don't know how Vice President Harris feels, or I
Speaker 6: don't know where she stands on something, her plan is accessible.
Speaker 6: You can literally go to her website and see where
Speaker 6: she stands. You can go to Donald Trump's website and
Speaker 6: see where he stands, and you can make an informed
Speaker 6: decision about which candidate speaks to you. Now, when you
Speaker 6: pull out larger and just look at the media landscape,
Speaker 6: you know, I've been navigating newsrooms for twenty four years
Speaker 6: of my life. It has been incredibly frustrating envy, I
Speaker 6: will tell you, my heart is breaking watch to watch
Speaker 6: journalism die a slow death. And the challenge is because
Speaker 6: there are so many people in newsrooms who don't look
Speaker 6: like us, who are willing to extend humanity and understanding
Speaker 6: to people who are, you know, spitting in our face,
Speaker 6: trying to convince us it's rain. There are people who say, well,
Speaker 6: my grandmother voted for Donald Trump, and so she's not
Speaker 6: so bad.
Speaker 3: And those people are.
Speaker 6: Producers, and so they're willing to extend humanity to people
Speaker 6: when they it's lazy reporting, lazy journalism. When you interview
Speaker 6: people and they say, just today they say, were we're
Speaker 6: exit poles, Well you're who?
Speaker 3: Did you vote for Donald Trump? Why? I like his policies.
Speaker 6: So I'm like screaming, ask why, Ask what policies? This
Speaker 6: reporter said, well, what policies and the woman just said,
Speaker 6: I mean all of them. You you don't right, I
Speaker 6: think you were voting for him for a specific reason.
Speaker 5: I think we underestimate how you know, people will forget
Speaker 5: what you did, they'll forget what you said, but they'll
Speaker 5: never forget how you made them feel. And I was
Speaker 5: watching this Asian guy on CNN and he was saying that,
Speaker 5: you know, he feels like his small business did better
Speaker 5: four years ago when Trump was in office. I think
Speaker 5: a lot of that has to do with PPP. I
Speaker 5: think a lot of that has to do with those
Speaker 5: stimulus checks. And I think that's what people are, that's
Speaker 5: that's people still remember that energy.
Speaker 1: Well, there's there's one person standing in the wings right
Speaker 1: here that makes us feel a certain way. Aaron Haynes
Speaker 1: is a good friend of ours, a brilliant political strategy
Speaker 1: or a littical commentator. Aaron, We're gonna scoot down Tiff
Speaker 1: and let her come sit right here because she ain't
Speaker 1: got no handphones.
Speaker 3: That's down, scoot on down, Angel. Did you talk about
Speaker 3: New Hampshire already?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: I did not talk about New Hampshire. You're breaking news.
Speaker 1: The Fox News decision desk is project projecting a win
Speaker 1: for her in New Hampshire.
Speaker 9: How many electoral votes is that?
Speaker 3: It doesn't New Hampshire is not a lot of electoral votes.
Speaker 6: But why New Hampshire significant is because they don't need
Speaker 6: I'm Mary, yeah, yeah, so that's why we pay so
Speaker 6: much attention to New Hampshire. Hear that New Hampshire was
Speaker 6: projected for vice president.
Speaker 9: How should we feel about this?
Speaker 3: The electoral Do you want to tell them what you're
Speaker 3: looking at?
Speaker 9: The electoral fab.
Speaker 7: You have?
Speaker 3: What source are you looking at?
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 5: This is Google?
Speaker 3: Okay? Where did they pull it?
Speaker 7: Google?
Speaker 9: Associated press?
Speaker 7: A what you know?
Speaker 3: She knows a little bit about a.
Speaker 7: Look.
Speaker 14: I mean I think what it means is it is
Speaker 14: what ten o'clock? Okay, I'm forty three, you know so?
Speaker 14: I mean it's nine forty three on Tuesday? Is you
Speaker 14: know sixty one degree?
Speaker 3: I know that's right.
Speaker 14: He's counting the votes because this thing is not over.
Speaker 14: I mean, I'm from Georgia. I know Fulton County has
Speaker 14: not come in. Atlanta has not come in, so like,
Speaker 14: we can't even really look at those numbers coming out
Speaker 14: of Georgia as real.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 14: Philadelphia is another big city. I just you know, live there.
Speaker 14: Know that that is another county that comes in super late.
Speaker 14: Detroit is another place that's going to come in super late.
Speaker 14: So you've got a lot of big cities where we
Speaker 14: know there are a lot of votes that still haven't
Speaker 14: been counted yet, and so you know this thing is
Speaker 14: far far from over. That's that's what I know looking
Speaker 14: at this map and also looking at the clock.
Speaker 9: Does Trump try to call it to night?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so he's going to try to call it.
Speaker 1: Whether did we get to the other side and Kamala
Speaker 1: got two hundred and eighty six electoral votes.
Speaker 3: He's still gonna try to call it tonight. And I
Speaker 3: think we know that, like this is a part of
Speaker 3: their plan.
Speaker 1: And then if she ends up picking up additional votes
Speaker 1: going towards Saturday or even on Sunday, he will say
Speaker 1: that they try to steal it. And that's the same
Speaker 1: thing that happened. It's the exact same playbook from January sixth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. We know what it is, we know
Speaker 1: what we're up against. I think right now I'll be
Speaker 1: honest and saying my nerves are bad. I didn't want
Speaker 1: the gap to be this big.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 1: Some outlets are projecting that he won Texas and it's
Speaker 1: with fifty percent of the vote in and I was
Speaker 1: hoping that it would be a little closer, especially because
Speaker 1: we haven't talked much about all the Senate races. But
Speaker 1: Colin Alred is also running against Ted Cruz in Texas,
Speaker 1: and I have a sneaky suspicion that if the margin
Speaker 1: is that big in Texas with Donald Trump, that Colin
Speaker 1: Alret's got a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold out hope for Colin Alright.
Speaker 6: He's a former NFL player, a member of Congress who's
Speaker 6: trying to move to the upper chambers. I'm gonna holp
Speaker 6: remember to see the commercial backclawks. I'm gonna hold out
Speaker 6: hope that he could still because we have seen those
Speaker 6: of those split ballants. And I'll say Texas is another
Speaker 6: state that they keep promising Texas is gonna be purple,
Speaker 6: It's gonna swing purple.
Speaker 3: We have yet to see that.
Speaker 6: Every cycle we think it's gonna go purple, and we
Speaker 6: haven't seen it. So I'm actually not as surprised that
Speaker 6: Texas may go for Donald Trump again tonight.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 14: I think I think some people, you know, wonder about
Speaker 14: that and and and the possibility of that happening, just
Speaker 14: because Texas literally has you know, the largest uh you
Speaker 14: know black population in the country, and yet you know
Speaker 14: that does not necessarily translate into the numbers. Democratic demography
Speaker 14: does not equal destiny, right, That's the thing that we
Speaker 14: that we know and that we have seen. And so
Speaker 14: you know Texas well, I think certainly Democrats have made
Speaker 14: inroads better of Rourke came very close right when he
Speaker 14: challenged Ted Cruz. And so now you have you know,
Speaker 14: Colin Albred certainly within striking distance. But we don't know
Speaker 14: what's going to happen with that race.
Speaker 7: Yet.
Speaker 6: It also punctuates, though aarin the Latino community as well,
Speaker 6: because so often you hear the Latino vote, right, and
Speaker 6: when you disaggregate these communities. There are more than twenty
Speaker 6: countries of origin, there are different perspectives. It's like if
Speaker 6: you put all the black people in the world, black
Speaker 6: folks from Kenya, black folks from America, black folks from
Speaker 6: West Africa either right, even here in America, you know
Speaker 6: a black person who grew up in La Versus, somebody
Speaker 6: grew up in Georgia.
Speaker 3: It's very different.
Speaker 6: And so in Texas, even with like within the Mexican population,
Speaker 6: there are some very conservative Mexicans.
Speaker 3: I mean, people's views on immigration right and not to
Speaker 3: be assumed right. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And I want to say, speaking of immigration, Ohio is
Speaker 1: just called for Donald Trump as well, seventeen electoral votes.
Speaker 1: That's not super surprising because dave E Vans, of course
Speaker 1: comes from Ohio. But I bring that up because some
Speaker 1: of the nastiest rhetoric we've heard about immigrants so far. Hell,
Speaker 1: I would say in a decade was what they've said
Speaker 1: about folks in Springfield, what they alleged about folks in Springfield.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to punctuate this moment with hate
Speaker 1: can still win in some of these in some of
Speaker 1: these states. But Aaron, what what what are you projecting overall? Well,
Speaker 1: hate win or will love? I mean I think that
Speaker 1: that will we.
Speaker 3: Turn the page.
Speaker 14: I mean, I don't know, right, I mean I do.
Speaker 14: I Am not going to sit up here in Nate
Speaker 14: Silver this thing. I can ensure guts say, my gut
Speaker 14: says that it's going to be close, and that we
Speaker 14: we likely will not have a result tonight. But that
Speaker 14: does not mean that there was cheating. That does not
Speaker 14: mean that anything has been stolen. It means that the
Speaker 14: votes are being counted. It means that millions and millions
Speaker 14: of Americans participated in this election, and we need to
Speaker 14: see we need to let democracy play out like that
Speaker 14: is what I can say for sure.
Speaker 3: I have a question for you Aerin down here. Hi,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Lauren.
Speaker 1: So with everything that happened there, that we saw in
Speaker 1: that state, in all the rhetoric and all that that
Speaker 1: was being viewed, and the fact that you know it's
Speaker 1: going with going to Trump, what could Kamala have done
Speaker 1: like in the lead up to this point that could
Speaker 1: have changed that? Is there any like I thought she
Speaker 1: they're echoing everything that was said, right, Like, she's on
Speaker 1: these platforms, she's talking about it, and it's still they
Speaker 1: still lean to hear Trump Like, what do you how
Speaker 1: would you have advised her differently? I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: definitely not the campaign advising business your perspective. But what
Speaker 1: I mean say, what I will say is, you know,
Speaker 1: it really was not about what the vice president could
Speaker 1: or could not have done in Ohio, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: we are talking about the former president being somebody who
Speaker 1: has been in our national politics for the better part
Speaker 1: of a decade.
Speaker 3: Right, he is baked in with his voters, his base
Speaker 3: is locked in.
Speaker 14: There really is not much that he could do or
Speaker 14: say for the people who support him that would turn
Speaker 14: them away. Even you know, hateful, hateful, racist hoax you
Speaker 14: know about Haitian legal Haitian immigrants is not going to
Speaker 14: turn them away. And so that was not a deal
Speaker 14: breaker for his voters. We know that he won Ohio
Speaker 14: in the past. Uh, the issue of abortion was also
Speaker 14: an issue that was on the ballot in Ohio literally
Speaker 14: had been on the ballot. They recently had, you know,
Speaker 14: the abortion band that was put in place there. The
Speaker 14: question there was also a question about whether that was
Speaker 14: going to mobilize women in that state. So I'd be
Speaker 14: very curious to see what the gender gap was in Ohio.
Speaker 14: But but yeah, I mean for his voters, something like that,
Speaker 14: that racist hoax that came up, that that was not
Speaker 14: something that was going to turn them away. And and
Speaker 14: that was and and that and and they were not
Speaker 14: really voters that that the vice president was really going
Speaker 14: to be able to persuade and certainly was not going
Speaker 14: to be able to persuade them by saying that his
Speaker 14: hateful rhetoric was something that they shouldn't support. I mean,
Speaker 14: he said many hateful, sexist, racist things over the years
Speaker 14: that have not been a deal breaker for those voters.
Speaker 10: As anybody else nervous looking at these numbers because I'm
Speaker 10: getting nervous.
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you too much read.
Speaker 7: For me I want to do.
Speaker 14: But that's how Matt feels in I'm just nervous now
Speaker 14: I want to do.
Speaker 5: God is the best author and finisher.
Speaker 7: There you go.
Speaker 5: I think you have to, regardless of how it was.
Speaker 1: I see the iota's as she rode yes, and the
Speaker 1: homecoming court No, no, it's not. The homecoming court is
Speaker 1: some more D nine students who missed it on the
Speaker 1: first run.
Speaker 3: They're gonna come and make us feel a little better.
Speaker 3: They're gonna make us feel a little better.
Speaker 5: How do you think the Harris Walls team feeling right now?
Speaker 7: You do in the war room?
Speaker 5: Right now? What you're thinking?
Speaker 6: I am going to I assume that they feel joyful
Speaker 6: because they're not far from us. They're just feed away
Speaker 6: from us, somewhere here on Howard's campus that's still early
Speaker 6: in the evening. I don't think they had the expectation
Speaker 6: that we would know results tonight. She is in the
Speaker 6: home of her alma mater, so I don't think that
Speaker 6: that they shared this nervous energy. You know, I don't
Speaker 6: have nervous energy, and me I understand why you do.
Speaker 6: I think that's, you know, part of part of the evening.
Speaker 6: But I'm optimistic about tonight, and I think I hope
Speaker 6: that they are as well.
Speaker 14: And look, I mean they they knew that this was
Speaker 14: going to be a brawl, this was going to be
Speaker 14: a close election. She had one hundred and seven days
Speaker 14: to put on a campaign, and she has come with
Speaker 14: a striking distance of the White House. I mean that
Speaker 14: certainly was not certainly was not what the former president expected. Right,
Speaker 14: he certainly is wondering why he's even on the ballot
Speaker 14: with with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: But here they are neck and neck. I mean, this
Speaker 1: thing could not be close. How far it looks right
Speaker 1: now as of right now, right and and right now,
Speaker 1: Michigan is too close to call. Pennsylvania's too close to call.
Speaker 1: We always knew, yeah, But but that map is filling
Speaker 1: in the way that that map, it's all all of
Speaker 1: that is mostly southern state. You have the entire west coast.
Speaker 3: That have California. I mean, is it forties? How many? No,
Speaker 3: it's not looking at the.
Speaker 1: Four So they have the Red and the Blue, and
Speaker 1: they're getting nervous right now because they say, look, I'm
Speaker 1: explaining to them what they're looking at. It was always
Speaker 1: gonna come down to about seven states, but you know what,
Speaker 1: we have more of seven people, because if f nine
Speaker 1: have joined us to camp, we're gonna give you all
Speaker 1: a mic to tell us who you are, where you're from,
Speaker 1: and how you're feeling. Just really quickly. We're gonna pass
Speaker 1: the mic down real fast. We're gonna start down here. Andrew,
Speaker 1: you got a mic. Andrew is not listening or he
Speaker 1: can't hear me. Everybody's gonna introduce just real quick, just
Speaker 1: like we did a little world call, because you guys
Speaker 1: are gonna pass that mic down and they'll pass this
Speaker 1: one really quick.
Speaker 3: First name where you from?
Speaker 7: Okayvon Molly from Plainfield, New Jersey.
Speaker 3: Hey, right, Okay, Falling and Gale. I'mrom Chicago, Illinois.
Speaker 7: Exavier Stirland from Colora Springs, Colorado.
Speaker 5: Okay, k Morgan Durha.
Speaker 3: I'm a graduating senior from Michigan.
Speaker 7: I heard that.
Speaker 3: Destiny Pridgin from North Carolina. Hello, I'm Ikey Jabrero and
Speaker 3: I'm from Omahona, Rasca. I'm you Osmond Edmondson and I'm
Speaker 3: from Jersey by way of Brooklyn, Jersey. I'm Mackenzie Campbell
Speaker 3: from PG County, Maryland. Michael Thomas and I'm from Detroit, Michigan.
Speaker 7: My name is Cole Waltson and I'm from jap of Maryland.
Speaker 3: I'm Owen Garrett and I'm from Oakland, California.
Speaker 7: My name is Westy Wilkins and I'm from Suffolk, Virginia.
Speaker 1: All Right, we love it. Good job to FINDE nine.
Speaker 1: We're happy to see you all tonight. We are grateful
Speaker 1: for you coming on with us. We'll get back to
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 3: I like your Madame Vice President Pamala Harris. All right,
Speaker 3: all right, well while they stand here and watch, Aaron,
Speaker 3: we thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 7: On with us.
Speaker 3: Listen, it's been fun hanging out.
Speaker 14: I mean, y'all are doing the work out here, and
Speaker 14: I know the work continues even beyond tonight, because whoever
Speaker 14: is president on the other side of this, we we
Speaker 14: have got to keep paying attention to how people govern
Speaker 14: and how the agenda that that the folks that are
Speaker 14: listening to y'all, how that agenda is fulfilled by I
Speaker 14: know y'all are gon keep holding them accountable. I don't
Speaker 14: even have to worry about that. So y'all are on
Speaker 14: the case. So that means that is a victory for democracy.
Speaker 14: And I just salute all of y'all.
Speaker 5: Accountable accountable that they start jailing journalists.
Speaker 3: You got concern, I know, I know I can't go there.
Speaker 3: We gotta figure this out. But he literally earlier than
Speaker 3: I was, like, it's gonna be a blowout.
Speaker 1: I ain't say all that exactly, told y'all my grandma
Speaker 1: prayed before we got.
Speaker 3: Here we could, but you know there is something through that.
Speaker 6: And just before you leave Erin, you wrote a column
Speaker 6: talking about that very thing, about if Donald Trump's fear
Speaker 6: and you know, persecution, I would think it could be
Speaker 6: a strategy.
Speaker 3: Why can't joy?
Speaker 14: Absolutely yeah, I mean we know that that joy has
Speaker 14: been a radical strategy for people, for black women in
Speaker 14: this country, and so the idea that that was front
Speaker 14: and center in this race should be no surprise to anyone,
Speaker 14: you know, And and pushing through the fear and the
Speaker 14: concerns that so many black folks in this country had
Speaker 14: because this this election is existential for us, right, Uh,
Speaker 14: so many black folks, people of color, women lgbt Q
Speaker 14: plus people feeling like, uh, you know, everything is on
Speaker 14: the line for them depending on the outcome of this election.
Speaker 14: And yet for us to literally be here, you know,
Speaker 14: at this rally, and and and and just hearing and
Speaker 14: seeing the joy, just even as the returns are coming
Speaker 14: in and we know that people are anxious, We know
Speaker 14: that people are fearful as they watch that map, just
Speaker 14: as you're doing over there, Charlemagne like, still being able
Speaker 14: to do that with joy. That is that is I mean,
Speaker 14: you know that that is definitely among the most American
Speaker 14: things that we're seeing in our community are then a
Speaker 14: little bit of joy.
Speaker 5: I'm just listen. Regardless of who winds, I think America
Speaker 5: does have to find a way to come together because
Speaker 5: you know, one thing I'm realizing is none of this matters, right.
Speaker 5: The sexism don't matter, the racism don't matter, the anti
Speaker 5: semitism don't matter, the homophobia don't matter. So what are
Speaker 5: we going to do as a community, as a society
Speaker 5: knowing that all of this really does exist among us, right,
Speaker 5: and we can't be delusional about it anymore?
Speaker 3: But we are been delusional.
Speaker 1: I don't think I think that there was a time
Speaker 1: where I felt more hopeful. There wasn't that I thought
Speaker 1: that it was completely a race. But I do think
Speaker 1: when Barack Obama won in two thousand and eight and
Speaker 1: when he went again in twenty twelve, I had more
Speaker 1: hope that I did when Donald Trump won in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: When when Donald Trump went in twenty sixteen, I was like,
Speaker 1: who the are these people that I have to work
Speaker 1: with that I have to consult with that I have
Speaker 1: like that I have to I think it was more shocking.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody else son.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Trump, he just won. Jesus breaking MSNBC. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump wins Kansas. Yeah, I have Kansas. I didn't know
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, because I was expected. But you're right, he
Speaker 1: did win Kansas. I will just say though, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying because you're right. But I
Speaker 1: was just like, it's my Twitter feed got.
Speaker 7: Me up to date.
Speaker 9: All of it looks about white. It's okay, right, it
Speaker 9: looks about.
Speaker 3: White, and it still looked like the Confederates that wanted
Speaker 3: us to be represented with three fists. The point is
Speaker 3: we don't. I don't know how I am going to
Speaker 3: fill tomorrow or on Saturday.
Speaker 1: If this is at this election is called on for Trump,
Speaker 1: I just I cannot even fathom it.
Speaker 3: I don't want to consider that. Again.
Speaker 10: How do y'all look at the black voters that said
Speaker 10: they're not voting for Kamala and they voted for trum
Speaker 10: How do you look at those family members?
Speaker 3: I don't have no family members.
Speaker 6: Like that, Angel, I don't even know people you're like.
Speaker 6: People in my family have said things like this. Maybe
Speaker 6: you changed their minds, but I remember specifically.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm in extended families who my god brother did
Speaker 1: but he voted No, no, no, no no. He was
Speaker 1: saying that he thought some of the stuff that Trump
Speaker 1: did was positive, and then he saw how they were
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 3: Me, I mean personal family, like you meant the great
Speaker 3: you know. I gotta tell you, I have not met
Speaker 3: a lot of black Trump supporters. I just haven't. I've
Speaker 3: met people who said that they like Stimmy's or they
Speaker 3: like PPP until they friends got arrested, or you know,
Speaker 3: like I've met those folks, or that they thought that
Speaker 3: he was right on immigration, that they.
Speaker 14: Weren't going to vote, or maybe they weren't voting for her,
Speaker 14: but then they weren't going to vote for anybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they're large enough in number in me.
Speaker 6: I really I think that was such a false media
Speaker 6: narrative that so many people globbed onto and elevated and
Speaker 6: prepare situated, and it's like, well, time out, you guys,
Speaker 6: Like these are random sound bites that nobody's bothering to
Speaker 6: ask the follow up. Nobody's bothering to say, well, are
Speaker 6: you registered to vote? Did you vote in the last election?
Speaker 6: Are you registered to vote this cycle? I would be
Speaker 6: very curious to see the exit poles. We already know
Speaker 6: that the GOP has gotten twelve percent of the black
Speaker 6: male vote specifically last cycle. There is no evidence that
Speaker 6: that has grown in number or gotten smaller in number.
Speaker 6: So I'll wait to see that some of the exit poles.
Speaker 9: But is like eight to fifteen Conservatives.
Speaker 14: And again, the question is what do white people do election?
Speaker 14: Because white people are the Americans that are voting for Trump,
Speaker 14: voting for Republicans in the majority. The extent to which
Speaker 14: his support is eroded among white Americans, not the extent
Speaker 14: to which he's attracting other people whose votes have had
Speaker 14: to mitigate.
Speaker 3: Right, people who are the white people who are voting
Speaker 3: for Trump, like that is the point.
Speaker 14: But you know, Charlemagne, you you also make a really
Speaker 14: good point about the country coming back together and and
Speaker 14: and our politics being about more than just who wins
Speaker 14: or loses, right, but about our shared values and our
Speaker 14: shared sense of fate, which seems to kind of feel
Speaker 14: lost in all of this, right, like, how do you
Speaker 14: how do we really get back to that?
Speaker 3: On the other side of the selection that's hugely, hugely difficult.
Speaker 14: So divided, and so many people who it seems, you know,
Speaker 14: just really don't care about their fellow Americans, right like,
Speaker 14: how how how does that sense of community?
Speaker 3: How do you begin to foster that?
Speaker 5: I believe that's what a pessimism comes into play now,
Speaker 5: because you're looking at this map right now, you're.
Speaker 3: Like, damn yeah, we really are crazy.
Speaker 7: Though.
Speaker 1: When I went into vote today, because I was earlier,
Speaker 1: I was a little pessimistic and I went into vote
Speaker 1: and the women who like were there that was helping
Speaker 1: out everything their energy, I was like, it just felt
Speaker 1: like it felt so good. It made me feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got this. And then things change or whatever, so
Speaker 1: the feeling, you know, changes a little bit. But I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: like when people go into the voting polls and they
Speaker 1: get that feeling. I hope that that in real life,
Speaker 1: like you were saying, right, Like, you don't run into
Speaker 1: like a thousand and one people who support Trump every
Speaker 1: single day in your real life, but the media makes
Speaker 1: you feel like that in real life. When I walked
Speaker 1: into that poll, I'm like, I hope everyone is getting
Speaker 1: this so they feel good and they feel energized.
Speaker 14: And then, you know what I mean, I love what
Speaker 14: you're saying, because we have we have made voting sound
Speaker 14: like such a burden, made voting sound you know, people
Speaker 14: were scared to go to the polls. They were scared
Speaker 14: of what might happen when they got to the precinct.
Speaker 14: You know what happened when I went to my precinct.
Speaker 14: Every single poll worker that was there was a black woman.
Speaker 5: Me too.
Speaker 1: I think the black black women like that, Like you know,
Speaker 1: they pard cat, they got last for anything. They clapped
Speaker 1: the wom when he came in.
Speaker 3: It was it was good. It was a festive. It
Speaker 3: was a positive experience. Yep. Yeah, yeah, well if they
Speaker 3: just calling another date, yeah they are.
Speaker 9: Trump just got tim more.
Speaker 5: I don't know who we want.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna get there and are we know
Speaker 1: you got all the I gotta, I gotta, I gotta
Speaker 1: gotta get his phones back out here.
Speaker 3: It's focused, Yeah, I was so when he what he
Speaker 3: got what? Yeah? I offered him mine.
Speaker 1: He is focused on, you know, but the glasses on
Speaker 1: twice took him off three to Yeah, gets his headphones on.
Speaker 3: I think that's because he's so used to watching these maps,
Speaker 3: you know from his.
Speaker 1: Own Okay, Yeah, that's what everyone have to study, Nique,
Speaker 1: understanding of what we're seeing tonight.
Speaker 3: As you've been over there, study Andrew, tell us, tell
Speaker 3: us blood John, what's happening? What happened with the electoral colleges?
Speaker 8: Now, So there are reports that are coming in right
Speaker 8: now around the early I mean the ninth, the ten
Speaker 8: PM closing states. I haven't been able to assess all
Speaker 8: of all of those, but let me just describe for
Speaker 8: a minute, because some people may be confused about what
Speaker 8: they are seeing.
Speaker 7: Around. Some of the states have been called some of
Speaker 7: y'all a break.
Speaker 10: Down a purple state too, because you mentioned Tiffany. It's
Speaker 10: in purple states, and some people are saying, well, what
Speaker 10: is a purple state? I no, red and no blue.
Speaker 8: Yeah, bring are the purple states of the states that
Speaker 8: don't go predictably Democrat or predicted Republican any statewide race.
Speaker 7: So they flip back and forth between.
Speaker 8: A Democratic top of the ticket and Republican top of
Speaker 8: the ticket. But others may have heard this term the
Speaker 8: red mirage, and it's less known than we know about
Speaker 8: the blue wave and that kind of thing. But the
Speaker 8: red mirage, which is connected to then the blue shift,
Speaker 8: is the early part of the night. The results that
Speaker 8: come in tend to favor the Republican party because of
Speaker 8: the way in which because of the order at which
Speaker 8: votes are counted, so the early counting of the vote's
Speaker 8: show may show a Trump lead in certain places. And
Speaker 8: then the reason why they call it the red mirage
Speaker 8: is because the mirage doesn't really exist, lead you to
Speaker 8: believe you're going to get that red thing. But as
Speaker 8: the night goes on in the county continues, a blue
Speaker 8: shift starts to happen and that state goes from looking
Speaker 8: red or I think some of the networks that not
Speaker 8: are using a darker hue of red to suggest leading
Speaker 8: Republican into a blue column.
Speaker 7: And it's not because there's any cheating that's been done.
Speaker 8: It's that they've added more votes to the tally, and
Speaker 8: as they add more votes, large wheels that were either
Speaker 8: mailed in or submitted as provisional ballots that get counted.
Speaker 8: When they get counted and qualified, they move into the total,
Speaker 8: and that total then moves. What looked like when you
Speaker 8: went to bed a state that was red and you
Speaker 8: wake up the next morning and that state happens to
Speaker 8: be blue is not because anybody stole any votes.
Speaker 7: It is because more votes were.
Speaker 8: Counted and then the calculation into the total of those
Speaker 8: votes have then moved that state to.
Speaker 7: A blue column. So don't be discouraged when you're looking
Speaker 7: at U saying, oh, I just know we do better.
Speaker 8: Wait, that's why we've worn people. Don't assume that the
Speaker 8: election is over the day that we vote. Give it
Speaker 8: time for all the votes to be counted, and it
Speaker 8: looks different.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you something, speaking of me, you need
Speaker 5: a logo three right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't take your headphones out, scoop down, because you
Speaker 1: ever been in an arena.
Speaker 5: You haven't been in an arena when the team is
Speaker 5: getting blown out. That's how I feel right now.
Speaker 1: But that's because it's all like think of if you
Speaker 1: look at the actual map, right, the red states are
Speaker 1: actually mostly in the south.
Speaker 3: Those polling locations have closed. You're seeing projections even when
Speaker 3: there's zero point zero of the votes counted.
Speaker 5: So this is usual.
Speaker 3: This is absolutely usual. Remember we haven't seen California yet.
Speaker 3: But it's not just California, Washington, Nevada. I think we'll
Speaker 3: get Nevada.
Speaker 1: But while we're moving down, we are bringing on our
Speaker 1: good friend and brother Rock and Is Howard sweatshirts is
Speaker 1: what did look like?
Speaker 3: Quinton James? Very similar?
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Speaker 1: dear partner of ours at Native lampod and and and
Speaker 1: I know he's happy to be in joint collapse conversation
Speaker 1: with the breakfast club.
Speaker 3: You this is not on trends? Can we put Quinn's
Speaker 3: mic on?
Speaker 10: There?
Speaker 8: We go?
Speaker 1: Quentin, Yes, we need some hope because people spiral in
Speaker 1: real time. Some people spiral. I didn't say, y'all, I
Speaker 1: was talking about or something. Please look at his kneecap
Speaker 1: up and everything.
Speaker 15: It's early right, so we know a lot of votes
Speaker 15: are still going to be counters to night from election day,
Speaker 15: we saw an overperformance today from our folks showing up
Speaker 15: to vote. Kind of procrastinated, but they did show up.
Speaker 15: So I think we're gonna see these numbers kind of
Speaker 15: shift throughout the night. And as we told everybody, you've
Speaker 15: got to be patient, right, it's gonna take a while to.
Speaker 7: Count all these votes. We want every vote counted.
Speaker 15: We know that people still in line voting right now
Speaker 15: in saints like Arizona, Nevada, So let's be patient count
Speaker 15: of your vote.
Speaker 7: I think we're gonna be all right.
Speaker 8: So clearly, you know, the predicted of a dramatic win
Speaker 8: by either party. There's no stake that is falling one
Speaker 8: way so far that suggests as dramatic win by anybody.
Speaker 7: Right now, it's on park. Yeah, I think it's pretty much.
Speaker 8: On par I think people have higher you know, had
Speaker 8: higher hopes for Georgia. I don't know where the most
Speaker 8: populated centers are with their total tally, so around Atlanta
Speaker 8: and in the county surrounding Atlanta, what percentage of that
Speaker 8: vote is already in If we're talking about forty maybe
Speaker 8: even forty fifty percent of the vote.
Speaker 7: Know that you have half the state's population.
Speaker 8: Of the entire state of Georgia is roughly populated in
Speaker 8: this area and just around it, and so we need
Speaker 8: to let those votes get in and be counted again.
Speaker 7: Uh, Pennsylvania, Michigan.
Speaker 3: Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: I just want to on this point one of the
Speaker 1: things that Tip brought up earlier too, and I think
Speaker 1: it's so important to contextualize the vote in our folks
Speaker 1: pushing forward anyway, being resilient anyway.
Speaker 3: The Philadelphia City Philadelphia's city commissioner said that several polling
Speaker 3: places were targeted by bomb threats. We knew about that
Speaker 3: in Georgia. Today we heard that it was, you know,
Speaker 3: most likely from a Russian actor.
Speaker 1: These bomb threats in Philadelphia, going right to the heart
Speaker 1: of where black folks are and where elections can be decided.
Speaker 1: How have you seen that intimidation work against our folks
Speaker 1: or not at all?
Speaker 15: I mean, listen, it's an age old trick. We knew
Speaker 15: this was a possibility. It's very disheartening to see it
Speaker 15: happen in real life. I think before we got to remember, right,
Speaker 15: this is again the same tactics use against our people
Speaker 15: throughout the sixties, this kind of terrorism. The thing that's
Speaker 15: interesting is there weren't bomb threats in Wyoming or Nebraska.
Speaker 15: They've been in Georgia, been in Philadelphia, been in places
Speaker 15: where we know black voters gonna show up and vote,
Speaker 15: And so I think that also is a little bit
Speaker 15: of a tell to me that people are afraid of
Speaker 15: our folks coming out to vote, so they're going to
Speaker 15: resort to those tactics. But again, I we got to
Speaker 15: give it up to black voters. Before today, over fifty
Speaker 15: percent of the black women who were registered to vote
Speaker 15: in North Carolina, in Georgia, they'd already voted, right And
Speaker 15: so I think we're gonna see a record breaking turnout
Speaker 15: from black women tonight, and we got to recognize that
Speaker 15: and give it up to black voters in spite of
Speaker 15: all these threats that we're seeing.
Speaker 10: I do have to ask, you know, we talked about
Speaker 10: Kamala Harris so much and she didn't have the time
Speaker 10: of course Trump had. Is there anything that she should
Speaker 10: have done that she didn't get a chance to, or
Speaker 10: that you wish you would have seen her do anything
Speaker 10: at all?
Speaker 15: I mean, look, in campaigns, you have three resources, right, time, money,
Speaker 15: in people. She didn't have a lot of time, right,
Speaker 15: so she had a lot of money, had a lot
Speaker 15: of people. But the time issue I think is the
Speaker 15: only thing I would look at as something at her disadvantage.
Speaker 15: We kind of heard reports today of you know, concerns
Speaker 15: around black voter turnout in Philadelphia, for instance. She didn't
Speaker 15: have the time to really dig in there. Again, one
Speaker 15: hundred day campaign has been phenomenal, but we've never seen
Speaker 15: anything like this in presidential history before.
Speaker 7: So that's the one piece. It's just the time issue.
Speaker 15: I don't think she could have spent again more money
Speaker 15: here or there, or have more people organized here or there.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you, guys, one piece of.
Speaker 1: Show I was it's not even about actually from but
Speaker 1: what what Tip would normally say is the dick of
Speaker 1: the country. There is a Florida state attorney who was
Speaker 1: suspended by Ron DeSantis, by the name of Monique Worrell,
Speaker 1: who has won her seatback. So that is one piece
Speaker 1: of good news in black history in Florida to command
Speaker 1: and to be proud of. I'm the only one celebrating
Speaker 1: it the show. Thanks Lauren hop Us.
Speaker 6: I want to say that because the way that you're
Speaker 6: posing the question, it sounds you and Leonard are both like,
Speaker 6: you know, you. You you sound like you're not as hopeful,
Speaker 6: and I just want to just hersized.
Speaker 1: I know they're both what y'all cold? Why they said,
Speaker 1: like that's that girl is so high over here?
Speaker 3: Well, it's because.
Speaker 5: There was the energy that was held.
Speaker 9: Not no more no, I.
Speaker 3: I think it has spiritually music.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's quiet because they're looking at her once the
Speaker 6: projection right, and I just want to encourage.
Speaker 5: You project I need to stop looking at.
Speaker 3: Try it.
Speaker 8: If we wonder why when we wake up and the
Speaker 8: Republicans are right now rejoicing and then sad tomorrow. You
Speaker 8: can understand that if you're in this mood because you're
Speaker 8: expecting these things to look a certain way. They go
Speaker 8: to bed with it assured that it looks a certain way,
Speaker 8: and then as the folks get counted, they wake up
Speaker 8: tomorrow and they said the Democrats stole it.
Speaker 7: How they win a race.
Speaker 1: I think the only reason why, like their reaction is
Speaker 1: probably how some people are feeling because the way that
Speaker 1: Kamala came in and just like like she bullied it
Speaker 1: like for like so fast, like the first two weeks,
Speaker 1: first day, first two days, I think people expected to
Speaker 1: see that instant like gratification and right.
Speaker 5: Now it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right stream back here like a lot.
Speaker 7: This is exactly how the process is, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 7: know what I would like.
Speaker 3: Colorado was called for Kamala expected, but just noting.
Speaker 9: I think I did I get called?
Speaker 1: I know it's got called on my screen right now,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is up fifty one.
Speaker 5: To I really would like to know where it was
Speaker 5: by Trump this time in twenty twenty.
Speaker 9: That's what I would.
Speaker 3: Look it up.
Speaker 7: Well, we didn't know a lot at this time in
Speaker 7: twenty twenty.
Speaker 8: We took a whole week, practically Saturday, for us to
Speaker 8: get to the point where we thought we know the president.
Speaker 8: I remember we did coverage that night and we went
Speaker 8: to bed believing the Democrat was going to lose.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we were, We was really We woke up the
Speaker 7: next morning, in our whole days, the whole set, we
Speaker 7: thought we went to bed and that we had lost.
Speaker 15: So it looked like this kind Yes, it looked like
Speaker 15: I don't have the whole country, but I do know
Speaker 15: at this point in twenty twenty, Uh, Donald Trump was
Speaker 15: doing better than right now in Georgia. Right, so he's underperforming.
Speaker 15: It's twenty twenty numbers in Georgia at this point compared
Speaker 15: to twenty twenty, we didn't.
Speaker 9: See some music in some week.
Speaker 3: County, isn't it right? Not yet county? You said no, no, yeah,
Speaker 3: still the ones that be ordered to huka.
Speaker 10: We are, we are?
Speaker 3: I do got to ask a question too.
Speaker 10: You know, when you look at some of these elections
Speaker 10: in these other countries, right, it's not as long, it's
Speaker 10: a lot less than than what we do here. And
Speaker 10: I feel like, do you think there should be a
Speaker 10: cap on the amount of money raised? When it comes
Speaker 10: to yes? I mean because I mean they're raising over
Speaker 10: a billion dollars each. They haven't send any money on
Speaker 10: all types of fripulous stuff. Do you think that we
Speaker 10: should have a cap on the amount of that we
Speaker 10: raised and the amount.
Speaker 3: Of time and why?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: Well a lot of countries do that.
Speaker 6: France for example, that yes, Canada and where you have
Speaker 6: a limited time of even campaigning. To your point, the
Speaker 6: money in politics, which you know Quinton obviously runs the
Speaker 6: collective pack, which is a part of raising money, but
Speaker 6: the donor classes we talked about on this show frequently
Speaker 6: is largely white and male, and you can really influence
Speaker 6: how campaigns and candidates feel and how they move and
Speaker 6: things that they say. I think if there is a limit,
Speaker 6: or even if they're publicly funded, you would get down
Speaker 6: to the meat of policy and what actually matters, not all.
Speaker 3: Of this kobuki theater, not all of this glitter.
Speaker 6: A lot of money goes on media buys, uh, which
Speaker 6: you know, yes, you say frivolous, but I don't know
Speaker 6: how frivolous that is, because that is how a lot
Speaker 6: of Americans consume information. That's how they get news. Unfortunately
Speaker 6: it's not a lot of readers, but we have a
Speaker 6: lot of watchers. I also think if you are looking
Speaker 6: at the public funding of some of these campaigns, uh,
Speaker 6: the process looks different.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: Like we've talked about this on Native lampod about having
Speaker 6: audiences in debates, but you get so much applause that
Speaker 6: you're you know, missing what the candidates are putting forward
Speaker 6: to the audience in a very serious So, Yes, definitely,
Speaker 6: I'm for limiting the amount of time for campaigns and
Speaker 6: also limiting, uh, the money that.
Speaker 8: Goes in as voters. I think it exhaust voters. They
Speaker 8: two years of this out in and out exhausts us.
Speaker 8: And if we had a season that we can look
Speaker 8: forward to where we know it's gonna start, and.
Speaker 7: There's an end to that. I agree.
Speaker 9: I think I'm exhausted right now.
Speaker 1: Well, don't be too exhausted yet. You got a couple
Speaker 1: more hours of coverage, good sir. I want to come
Speaker 1: back to you really quick, Quentin. One with some bad
Speaker 1: news and one with some good news. The bad news
Speaker 1: is that even though we hoped for a miracle and
Speaker 1: a hail Mary in Texas with seventy seven percent of
Speaker 1: the precincts reporting, Colin Alred is not lost to Ted Cruse,
Speaker 1: the incumbent who is really just not worth the damn
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: However, in Maryland, Angela.
Speaker 1: Also Brooks has become the second black woman senator. All Right,
Speaker 1: you join at LISTA Rochester, and I gotta feel good
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: Clinton, very good, good, Well, but let let Quinn have
Speaker 3: this moment.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I know, I mean looks it's historic to put
Speaker 1: again two black women in the US Senate in one election.
Speaker 15: Yes we we we know, uh, the opportunity that her
Speaker 15: being there is going to provide to so many families
Speaker 15: throughout Maryland, but also to so many black candidates around
Speaker 15: the country. Seeing as a possibility that I can run
Speaker 15: stay wide and be victorious.
Speaker 7: It's incredible. And so again they're calling on we're leading
Speaker 7: in Arizona. We're leading in Arizona.
Speaker 15: Again, let's be patient tonight, but again let's applaud Angela
Speaker 15: also Brooks in the amazing campaign as she ran being
Speaker 15: incredibly outspent. To your point, you know, when it comes
Speaker 15: to black candidates, we have a tough time raising money.
Speaker 3: But that's why you start a collective pack.
Speaker 1: And that's why I want you to talk about because
Speaker 1: tip to your point and envy to your point.
Speaker 3: Is there too much money in politics?
Speaker 1: Yes, but while it stays, they come up with a
Speaker 1: really tremendous solution and you guys funded people from the
Speaker 1: top of the ticket all the way down ballot.
Speaker 7: Take that work. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 15: So we launched a collective pack in twenty sixteens to
Speaker 15: really build black potical power by raising money. We know
Speaker 15: money in politics is so important. So if you're not
Speaker 15: funding our candidates, and we can't expect them to go
Speaker 15: out there and compete dollar for dollar against every by
Speaker 15: body else. And so we had over one hundred candidates
Speaker 15: on the ballot today. Hopefully most of them will be victorious.
Speaker 15: But again, this money and politics thing is a real issue,
Speaker 15: and as a people, we got to organize our money
Speaker 15: in our politics so that our folks don't get bought
Speaker 15: and sold by other communities.
Speaker 7: That's a really big issue for us moving forward.
Speaker 3: That's right. Well, we are so grateful that you joined
Speaker 3: us tonight to give you.
Speaker 7: Welcome to Howard. Welcome to Howard.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're having a You appreciate it. You know,
Speaker 1: you might have a little bit of beat down there
Speaker 1: with envy, you know it all love okay today, No,
Speaker 1: that's right, I love it. Thanks you, Thank y'all.
Speaker 3: Let's see you.
Speaker 1: And Andrew is down here being our black John Kake,
Speaker 1: so you'll let him have his mohema pianos.
Speaker 5: We'll say two.
Speaker 9: Night tired after the tire the first night.
Speaker 5: Trump did call it in twenty twenty, so clearly something
Speaker 5: must have been happening like this to where he felt
Speaker 5: confident and they thought they were gonna win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get rid of the electoral college.
Speaker 9: But I will telling me that, Andrew, I need you
Speaker 9: to keep telling me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's true.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, you guys.
Speaker 1: I do think it's important to note because normally we
Speaker 1: do talk about the distinction between what's happening with the
Speaker 1: electoral college versus the popular vote. Right now, because of
Speaker 1: the number of Southern states that have been called, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump is ahead. He's forty two million plus votes to
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's thirty seven point plus million votes, So there
Speaker 1: is a there is a disparity there as well. I
Speaker 1: do think that gap will significantly closes those West coast
Speaker 1: states coming start coming in and more of the Midwest
Speaker 1: start coming in.
Speaker 3: They said that Pennsylvania's Pennsylvania.
Speaker 8: There's only about fifty one percent of the vote in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: Report that she gets too close to lean in right
Speaker 3: now because I saw something slightly Trump.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I saw that, I didn't want to say it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's just that, And I was like, I
Speaker 7: don't want to be the one.
Speaker 3: To say it.
Speaker 8: It's slightly Trump, but it should be at this stage
Speaker 8: of the game. It's the larger, more populous cities that
Speaker 8: get added into the vote.
Speaker 7: Palice counted not completely.
Speaker 3: Taking a little longer.
Speaker 8: Because and then from that they'll open up early ballots,
Speaker 8: which they were not able to begin counting until tonight
Speaker 8: when the post closed and other states my state, they
Speaker 8: open them and they start to roll them in.
Speaker 7: So those early number that's how you can have.
Speaker 8: A whole state like Florida, the third largest in the country,
Speaker 8: produce its winners and losers in the first hour hour
Speaker 8: and a half after the post close.
Speaker 10: So for Pennsylvania, anybody that voted early, they're not allowed
Speaker 10: open those until polest closed, Okay, So as those get
Speaker 10: calculated and added in, you see shifts in the outcome
Speaker 10: that state.
Speaker 5: This West Wing report says presidential race as far shows
Speaker 5: no surprises on the matter. So haaris, Slovania looks better,
Speaker 5: razor thin leeds in Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia is concerning for her.
Speaker 5: Virginia not a swing state, shaking and expected. Iowa more competitive,
Speaker 5: competitive than expected. You'll recall the sel support.
Speaker 7: Being no surprises.
Speaker 3: Were we looking out for Iowa?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Iowa seeing so sometimes sitting on Twitter and you
Speaker 1: guys can confirm this over there is Trump in Iowa.
Speaker 7: He will win Iowa. I didn't expect them.
Speaker 8: And I also but the fact that she is competitive
Speaker 8: in Iowa at this stage, she should not be competitive
Speaker 8: in a state like Iowa. Iowa has been solidly Republican
Speaker 8: for the last three presidential races. Took a dip into
Speaker 8: our land with Obama and then came right back out,
Speaker 8: and it's been reliably it is not critical to her.
Speaker 8: It's not even counted by her team as being necessary
Speaker 8: for the electoral College.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Iowa is called for Republicans, Yes for Trump,
Speaker 3: and it will be it expected. Well, I was hoping
Speaker 3: that it is organ and she should win organ But
Speaker 3: we were just hopeful because you know, they had some
Speaker 3: reports earlier.
Speaker 1: They said the I can't think of the the poster's name.
Speaker 1: They said, yeah, they said, she always gets it right.
Speaker 1: She called it for She said, well, she actually didn't
Speaker 1: call it for Kamala. She said that it was very
Speaker 1: very close and it was leaning towards her, but within
Speaker 1: the margin of air.
Speaker 5: So, uh, yes, we are now and what is the
Speaker 5: hell is happening?
Speaker 3: Well, they people they just went reports. They're watching seeing
Speaker 3: it right, said.
Speaker 5: They counting votes.
Speaker 3: They're watching this, watching the screen.
Speaker 6: People who are I do want to set the scene
Speaker 6: for them. So there is still a sea of people
Speaker 6: who are very joyful. So we hear waves of applause
Speaker 6: and cheers as they have seen it projected on the screen.
Speaker 6: So as Don King is projecting states or showing where
Speaker 6: Vice President Harris might be leading, that's when you hear cheers.
Speaker 6: So as we get that breaking news, we will be
Speaker 6: sure to share it with you guys at home. But
Speaker 6: it is still a very joyful time here.
Speaker 9: Point out the joy because I'm looking for.
Speaker 3: This is a truck.
Speaker 8: Joy, hey, Charlemagne, and be these these folks are as
Speaker 8: novice to the process as any of us.
Speaker 7: Many of them, we got these returns.
Speaker 8: They feel a certain way about what they wanted to
Speaker 8: look like, and it doesn't reflect what they feel like
Speaker 8: it should look like. But I have if we were
Speaker 8: broadcasting to them, I'd say the same thing, which were
Speaker 8: hold your horses, calm down, wait and be patient, because
Speaker 8: when these votes are counted, you'll see a better reflection.
Speaker 7: Of what you thought the earlier part of the night
Speaker 7: should have looked like it didn't.
Speaker 3: Can we take a.
Speaker 6: Snap of this though, because there is and I know
Speaker 6: you guys can't. Hopefully they're doing audience shots there. But
Speaker 6: there was a sea of black people waiving the American
Speaker 6: flag on this historically black university, and just the dichotomy
Speaker 6: of that right that what that flag represents and has
Speaker 6: represented for us on this campus of black people, when
Speaker 6: America does still standpoise to elect the first black woman
Speaker 6: to lead the country.
Speaker 3: I just think this is a moment in history. And
Speaker 3: y'all are down there feeling away.
Speaker 7: No we are.
Speaker 10: We went to the crowd and it's this tears So
Speaker 10: there's press over here, this alumni, this students. Me and
Speaker 10: Lauren actually stuck into the alumni student section was dead sneak.
Speaker 3: Yes, we had called. They kicked us out at first,
Speaker 3: So just to let you know, they kicked us out
Speaker 3: at first.
Speaker 7: We had to go back.
Speaker 10: But then there's alumni on the side, and then there's
Speaker 10: just DMV residents and they're super duper excited. But like
Speaker 10: you said, right now they're watching CNN. They're waiting for
Speaker 10: these numbers to be announced.
Speaker 3: You just got some more. See that you didn't anounced
Speaker 3: that one? Yeah, what are you doing? One? She got two,
Speaker 3: she got twelve, one, twelve.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But remember there's a lot of state you don't have
Speaker 1: to come in, so that number will flip drafts slowly.
Speaker 9: Uh, I was not even tripping. None of the battlegrounds
Speaker 9: are really in.
Speaker 5: You know, he's still got North Carolina, Pennsylvania, I want
Speaker 5: to see.
Speaker 1: What does talk about some in North Carolina. It might
Speaker 1: make y'all happy.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: They had a group of natorial candidate was a brother
Speaker 1: uh named Mark Robinson and he lost.
Speaker 3: He did, He did in fact lose, no surprise no
Speaker 3: so far our viewers.
Speaker 6: You may recall Mark Robinson was the lieutenant governor running
Speaker 6: for the governor and he was the show look at
Speaker 6: for something literally literally.
Speaker 9: When transgenders on his laptop was on.
Speaker 3: Was that is that what he is? He said that
Speaker 3: he found that's like Africa foreign or something Africa born.
Speaker 3: But I'm talking about when they know, you guys look
Speaker 3: and I'm looking out Africa. Yes, I need one more
Speaker 3: worry than Africa porn.
Speaker 5: How does that fair for her in North Carolina? Since
Speaker 5: the governor won.
Speaker 3: The Democratic government, it should help her.
Speaker 6: But it gives you an indication of how voters are voting,
Speaker 6: so if they declared his loss. But again, he has
Speaker 6: become an embarrassment to the Republican Party. So this is
Speaker 6: where you might see some of those split ballots.
Speaker 5: But that is it wouldn't be embarrassed if he was white.
Speaker 6: I think that was some of the things that he
Speaker 6: was saying and doing were I think universally. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: But I'll say this, Charlotte, because you brought up something
Speaker 6: I think this speaks to it. And you talked about
Speaker 6: how do we come together that to the country no
Speaker 6: matter who wins, and I have to say, and this,
Speaker 6: you know may be controversial to some people, but I
Speaker 6: actually have no interest in coming together. I said, I
Speaker 6: really don't. I don't, I have no effen I don't.
Speaker 6: I have no interest in meeting a bigot in the middle.
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to understand.
Speaker 1: I know very well their perspective and if our disagreement,
Speaker 1: as the saying goes, is rooted in you denying my humanity,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to convince you of such things.
Speaker 3: I say, yes, stay over there, and I respect the honesty.
Speaker 1: I would rather you look me in my face than
Speaker 1: tell me how you feel than the smile on my
Speaker 1: face and feel.
Speaker 3: The way that I know you feel.
Speaker 6: So I think that is something that we have to
Speaker 6: have a serious conversation in this country about, because we're
Speaker 6: not at a place where everybody's like, okay, guys, you
Speaker 6: guys won this time. We're all gonna go back to
Speaker 6: our corners.
Speaker 1: Even Stevens no I think we are that the Civil
Speaker 1: War did not begin with the first firing, you know,
Speaker 1: of a pistol.
Speaker 6: It began long before that. There was this court, and
Speaker 6: I think we're seeing something like that happen in this country.
Speaker 6: And then when you broaden that out and be and
Speaker 6: this is key, when the United States is at war
Speaker 6: with itself on the global stage, we look incredibly weak.
Speaker 1: And so we've already seen threats to our country this cycle.
Speaker 1: And so I'd imagine Russia might have company this go
Speaker 1: around in Iran, in China, all empires fall. America has
Speaker 1: been a superpower for the long time because of us,
Speaker 1: because of our bodies, we created this superpower. We are
Speaker 1: primed right now to be taken out. So this election
Speaker 1: not only has consequence for policy here domestically, it has
Speaker 1: consequences for our global standing. And that's a very serious thing.
Speaker 5: I agree with you. If I was a political strategist,
Speaker 5: and call me naive, I wouldn't want to just chalk
Speaker 5: up what we're seeing what the Trump thing, to just bigotry,
Speaker 5: to just racism, to just sexism. I really would want,
Speaker 5: I really want to see what he's doing that is
Speaker 5: moving people and has been moving people for the past that.
Speaker 3: Think that's racism and sexism. I think it's I think it's.
Speaker 5: Got to be a little bit more more than that
Speaker 5: are It might be what what are Democrats not doing?
Speaker 5: You know, that's what I would want to know. I
Speaker 5: can't just say, hey, everybody's racist, everybody's a bigger I.
Speaker 3: Think that that is very true.
Speaker 1: I think we've heard from our own friends, if but
Speaker 1: for super honest, even in our own conversations right about
Speaker 1: where there's shortcomings or where we don't feel represented inside
Speaker 1: of a big ten. You know, it's like, even when
Speaker 1: you talk about the way that consultants are used, or
Speaker 1: you talk about.
Speaker 3: The way that candidates have to fight to be seen.
Speaker 3: Even in Andrew's experience, Andrew wasn't They didn't decide that
Speaker 3: Andrew was the darling of the Democratic Party. Fought hard
Speaker 3: af to be at the top of the ticket, to
Speaker 3: be the the to get out of the primary, and
Speaker 3: to be the Democratic Party's nominee for governor of Florida.
Speaker 3: That wasn't easy. You fought to the last name, and
Speaker 3: the media had really called him, they called it for
Speaker 3: way Graham.
Speaker 8: But so about let's recognize that half the country isn't voting.
Speaker 8: Half the people of the country who are qualified to
Speaker 8: vote don't vote, just don't exercises. So your point around,
Speaker 8: I want to be with you because I wanted badly
Speaker 8: to be there in twenty sixteen when I thought my
Speaker 8: neighbors and everybody who I trusted that was white betrayed me.
Speaker 8: And don't give it am I'm about who I am
Speaker 8: and so on and so forth. But the lived experience
Speaker 8: is much more nuanced than that. All we walk this
Speaker 8: earth very differently between you know, between people. So I
Speaker 8: can't say and resolve that an election is decided just
Speaker 8: that way. I think Trump reaches at something well that's
Speaker 8: not even that clever. If you are a person and
Speaker 8: you don't have a perfect life and therefore you have grievances,
Speaker 8: Trump has.
Speaker 7: Taught you how to complain and like make no apologies
Speaker 7: about it.
Speaker 8: He complains and then points you to the people who
Speaker 8: are responsible for your pain. And they're the people who
Speaker 8: are brown, and they're black, and they're women, and they're
Speaker 8: everybody that's not like you. And so if we were
Speaker 8: able to run a race trying to build community off
Speaker 8: of people who got complaints about how fucked up shit
Speaker 8: is we went to I mean we you know, we'd lead,
Speaker 8: we'd connect with people by making that the case that
Speaker 8: groceries are too high. This is happening, This is happening.
Speaker 8: Jobs are being shipped here, and that group is responsible
Speaker 8: for why you're not living your best life. That's not
Speaker 8: rocket science politics. It's the politics of grievance. They win campaigns,
Speaker 8: and sometimes that kind of politicians loses well.
Speaker 5: To that point, Andrew, I agree with you, but black
Speaker 5: people do have grievances.
Speaker 7: I agree.
Speaker 5: We do have a community that we point to, which
Speaker 5: is usually white supremacy, but we don't have elected officials
Speaker 5: that are willing to do that. We don't have elected
Speaker 5: officials that are willing to challenge that system of white supremacy.
Speaker 1: Largely, I don't think they don't speak directly to a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff when I'm not like, I remember we
Speaker 1: did that the interview that you said in from Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Congress.
Speaker 7: From Florida, Biran Donald's that was it.
Speaker 5: We had to push elect.
Speaker 6: But that's a Republican conservative. If youre talking about Byron Donald,
Speaker 6: no no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Wes Moore and I love him to death,
Speaker 1: but I just felt like in all of his speaking
Speaker 1: it was very much like high level hope love, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't. There were certain things that like he wouldn't
Speaker 1: even directly say, and I'm like, why, I yeah, And
Speaker 1: there is the Republicans do they But they they running
Speaker 1: different areas and they don't. They're not up against the
Speaker 1: same things we have to when we're when we're black
Speaker 1: in a progressive party or in a Democratic party, we
Speaker 1: have a double big ten to win over. We have
Speaker 1: to prove to white folks that we're worthy of election,
Speaker 1: and we have to prove the black folks that were
Speaker 1: down for the cause, and we have to prove to
Speaker 1: everybody else that we still see their grievances. White folks
Speaker 1: can come on and say, trust me, little brown person,
Speaker 1: little black person, I got you, and I could probably
Speaker 1: solve your problems better than you. And if you don't
Speaker 1: trust me on this, that's fine, because there's a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of white folks that'll elect me to super se
Speaker 1: whatever minority you are of the vote. What I would
Speaker 1: say is that what I what I took issue with
Speaker 1: is there are mayors in mostly black cities, There are
Speaker 1: members of the Congressional Black caucus. Some that are in
Speaker 1: majority minority districts, which means that it's mostly black or
Speaker 1: mostly black and brown or whatever. But there are also
Speaker 1: a lot of them who are in white white folks
Speaker 1: districts too, who see issues similar to us, who might
Speaker 1: have that Black Lives Matter signing in the yard for
Speaker 1: those folks, and those folks will absolutely stand with us
Speaker 1: and say the hard thing. Barbara Lee, who is retiring
Speaker 1: now and will be replaced tonight by Latifa Simmons in Oakland, California,
Speaker 1: is one of those folks. She was the only person
Speaker 1: that was willing to stand up against the Iraq war.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So we have those members, but there are few and
Speaker 1: far between, especially if they have just leadership ambition.
Speaker 3: I mean even her the town the town hall.
Speaker 1: And you know when I thought it was great when
Speaker 1: Charlotte was asking Kamala about like why can't you just
Speaker 1: say what you will do?
Speaker 5: Yeah, why can't you just you know?
Speaker 1: And she she's she worked her way around and she
Speaker 1: answered it, but she still had to work away.
Speaker 8: There is a way in which we still have to
Speaker 8: be in the politics where we're not the majority who election, Like,
Speaker 8: what do.
Speaker 1: Y'all think would happen though. If there was a politician,
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know what I mean, on
Speaker 1: our side that looks like us.
Speaker 3: I want to tell you there are politicians.
Speaker 10: Ticket that's about a Barack Obama. That's why the black
Speaker 10: said that, didn't you know?
Speaker 6: But what you guys are talking about is at the
Speaker 6: presidential level, and politics is about addition, not subtraction.
Speaker 3: So you do have to say things to appeal to
Speaker 3: a broad colge or not.
Speaker 6: But I would challenge or not say things, but I
Speaker 6: would challenge you to say there are tons of politicians
Speaker 6: who do call a thing a thing as speak very
Speaker 6: truthfully about it. Congressom and Ayana Presley is one of
Speaker 6: those people. Congressman Barbara Lee is one of those people.
Speaker 6: There are mayors, se rev The.
Speaker 8: Problem is is that if we could name check them,
Speaker 8: then they're not enough. I agree, but we're talking about
Speaker 8: the majority. Experience with politics is you're listening to this
Speaker 8: politician and nothing they're saying is believable. Yeah, that's your
Speaker 8: lived experience. Because I had these problems before you got there.
Speaker 8: You told me you'd solve them. I'm up to elect
Speaker 8: you again and the same problems are still persistent.
Speaker 7: Yeah, now one.
Speaker 8: I try to be honest with people any time I've
Speaker 8: ever run it shared that this doesn't change overnight. This
Speaker 8: system didn't get here overnight. If we're four hundred years
Speaker 8: here and through a civil war that divided the country,
Speaker 8: it came out of the civil war, had what less
Speaker 8: than ten years of independence, our ability to run right,
Speaker 8: and then the reconstruction laws got taken away from us,
Speaker 8: and then we get another.
Speaker 7: One hundred years and when we found.
Speaker 8: Ourselves in civil rights and we barely get out of that.
Speaker 8: That system does not change overnight. It was not invented overnight.
Speaker 8: Requires a level of patience, sophistication, but also stick to
Speaker 8: itiveness that we're not going to give up on that fight.
Speaker 8: And so it isn't defended from one election to another.
Speaker 8: Movements require us to stay in them in order.
Speaker 7: For them to move.
Speaker 10: I think he's one of the things, like she said,
Speaker 10: it's like when you look at a Barack Obama right
Speaker 10: and you say, wow, we finally got somebody that looks
Speaker 10: like me.
Speaker 3: He's gonna do something for my community.
Speaker 10: He's gonna stand up when the police officers killed the
Speaker 10: brother for no reason. He's gonna stand up when he
Speaker 10: sees this, he's gonna stand up when he sees in
Speaker 10: justice and he.
Speaker 8: Doesn't, or when he did, or we ended up with
Speaker 8: Skip Gates, what did they have him do a beer summit?
Speaker 8: He called out racistem for a white black professor getting
Speaker 8: in his own house getting arrested.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. When he said Trayvon Martin could be my.
Speaker 8: Son, and then what he ended up then with with
Speaker 8: after that, he's got to sit down with white folks
Speaker 8: as the president of the United States and then retract
Speaker 8: it practically and make it appear as if no, your
Speaker 8: white son would have experienced the same thing.
Speaker 5: Not true.
Speaker 8: So when he's stepped out, Democrats, Republicans, everybody in between
Speaker 8: clipped his knuckles and we're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, You're.
Speaker 7: Not that man in this house. He didn't got to
Speaker 7: be something different.
Speaker 6: But I think, I think to Laura's point, because I
Speaker 6: understand what she was saying about Governor West forard the
Speaker 6: democratic purpose.
Speaker 3: And I love him. By the way, I thought he
Speaker 3: was fired I think president at some point, But I
Speaker 3: was like, why.
Speaker 6: Right, I completely understand what you're saying. I think Wes
Speaker 6: Moore is Governor Moore is a wonderful person, wonderful human being.
Speaker 6: I also think he's very politically ambitious, and so he
Speaker 6: is setting his sights on I need to continue to
Speaker 6: build and attract people to my campaign Sadly, in politics,
Speaker 6: it's too common a thing where you can profess loudly
Speaker 6: on what you'll do for everybody else, and you.
Speaker 3: Whisper that shit to black folks.
Speaker 6: You professed loudly what you'll do for everybody else's issue,
Speaker 6: but you go behind the curtain and say, okay, but
Speaker 6: black folks, I got y'all. Once we get in an office, right,
Speaker 6: I think that you do have to challenge those and
Speaker 6: confront those systems. I don't think we're there yet.
Speaker 7: We are fourteen but we are because she did it
Speaker 7: right well.
Speaker 6: Vice President Harris said, but we're fourteen percent of the population,
Speaker 6: and so when you're talk about that level, you do
Speaker 6: have to make an appeal. Now, if Vice President Harris
Speaker 6: comes out and says, I for I'm the president for reparations,
Speaker 6: I believe you know, I'm going to eradicate the criminal
Speaker 6: justice system. I am going to write the wrongs of housing.
Speaker 6: You know, black folks have been and this is her
Speaker 6: chief message that she's banging.
Speaker 1: She would not have the coalition that she did, she
Speaker 1: would have the chaining So but the question, well, the
Speaker 1: question I would put to you then, is is it
Speaker 1: important for her to get in office and then hold
Speaker 1: her accountable to our agenda or do we want her
Speaker 1: to go out there ra rah rah and normalize speaking
Speaker 1: about our issues at the risk that she.
Speaker 3: May not win in a list.
Speaker 8: I want her to run the race on the campaign
Speaker 8: and on the issues that she's running. And the fact
Speaker 8: that she's the first candidate for president of the United
Speaker 8: States to have a black male agenda, ever, is progress.
Speaker 8: Obama didn't have a black man's agenda, right or a
Speaker 8: black women's agenda. That doesn't mean he didn't do things
Speaker 8: that benefit our community, but he did not feel at
Speaker 8: the time that he could run realistically for president of
Speaker 8: the United States with a black agenda and said as
Speaker 8: much when asked about what your black agenda, said, my
Speaker 8: agenda is for the American people and we all benefit
Speaker 8: from that, and that had to be good enough for
Speaker 8: us at the time.
Speaker 7: Kamala didn't didn't do that. She actually took an added
Speaker 7: risk by saying black men calling us out, and not
Speaker 7: just that, not superficially. She then put the policy behind it,
Speaker 7: and it didn't begin an end with jail and drugs.
Speaker 3: I just I want to put it out really quick,
Speaker 3: really really quick.
Speaker 1: Nebraska is in and I want to I want to
Speaker 1: say this because I think this is significant.
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty, Donald Trump won four of the five.
Speaker 1: This is one of the states that split four of
Speaker 1: the five elect or old votes in Nebraska tonight, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump won three of the five.
Speaker 3: So two of those are going to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 8: Well, that's are a requirement for her in order to
Speaker 8: win the Blue in order to win the presidency, because
Speaker 8: if she won all the Blue Wall and did not
Speaker 8: capture those two congressional seatside of Nebraska, she still could
Speaker 8: not have been president. She would be one vote elect
Speaker 8: vote to a college. Okay, so Nebraska had she needed
Speaker 8: some looking goods.
Speaker 1: She needed those two. But I'm saying in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden got only got one.
Speaker 2: God Well, come, welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 1: Someone and I'm on the live chat for the Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club's YouTube channel. There's over ten thousand people in here,
Speaker 1: and someone is asking for Yeah, thank you guys for
Speaker 1: tuning in. And someone is asking if you guys can
Speaker 1: talk more about North Carolina because it's really close.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yes, we expected it to be close.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I think is really important
Speaker 1: for us to note is that Shakiah Harris is who
Speaker 1: act that.
Speaker 8: Is?
Speaker 1: Oh God, anyway, Shakuia, we love you. Ignore Leonard, you
Speaker 1: could say some smart mouth.
Speaker 5: Damn you ain't ignor.
Speaker 1: But I think the one thing that's important here is
Speaker 1: in North Carolina, this has been a state that we
Speaker 1: have not won. It's Barack Obama in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: and so Kamala Harris winning this tonight, if she does,
Speaker 1: it will be another history making year demonstrates demonstrates that
Speaker 1: black folks, when they're at the top of the ticket,
Speaker 1: can capture states that some other folks can't.
Speaker 7: Well, I will tell you the music.
Speaker 3: Folk walking at home.
Speaker 1: They just dropped in beyond thank you for that questionground
Speaker 1: we did.
Speaker 8: She didn't need, she didn't need North Carolina to win
Speaker 8: the race for president and the electoral College. North Carolina
Speaker 8: would be icing on the cake for us if we
Speaker 8: were able to get it. And it is absolutely expected
Speaker 8: to be close. If it comes over at.
Speaker 1: All, I knocked on doors in North Carolina on Saturday.
Speaker 1: So I'm expecting a victory and I spoke at churches.
Speaker 9: Yes, I did you know another grievance.
Speaker 5: I think Trump speaks to I think he speaks to
Speaker 5: the poor.
Speaker 3: Better than to put your mic closer the poor.
Speaker 9: It's poor period.
Speaker 5: When people hear people, when you hear somebody talking about
Speaker 5: you know, uh, you can't pay your bills, you can't
Speaker 5: keep food on your table, you can't keep a roof
Speaker 5: over your head and needs it. But then he'll mix
Speaker 5: in these are the people taking the job from you.
Speaker 5: This is why you can't eat. I think all of
Speaker 5: that works. I think that that's not true, but I
Speaker 5: think it's I think it's more rooted than this. This
Speaker 5: is this is what I think is causing more more
Speaker 5: of a racially diverse coalition to come into the Republican
Speaker 5: Party because they're speaking to this a lot more.
Speaker 7: They are. It's a mirage, but they are speaking to it.
Speaker 3: I'm on set.
Speaker 8: They have the beauty of being able to say things
Speaker 8: like so, first of all, at what point of Donald
Speaker 8: Trump's like does he represent and better my lived expirit?
Speaker 8: I mean, the man got a million dollar loan from
Speaker 8: his dad and to started business. I ain't never seen
Speaker 8: a million dollars. I did grow up with it. I mean,
Speaker 8: you were rich in our community. If you took your
Speaker 8: family to McDonald's on the weekend for a meal. It
Speaker 8: was so the fact that he can embody that better
Speaker 8: than almost any politician is insane to me. But I
Speaker 8: get it because you're right, Charlamagney speaks to it, and
Speaker 8: and then he tells you who's to blame for it.
Speaker 8: None of us are ever going to do that one
Speaker 8: because it actually isn't the truth for many of us
Speaker 8: in our places.
Speaker 10: Oh, he's a market and genius too. Like you had
Speaker 10: the radio this morning. He was like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 10: I was richer. I had more money when Donald Trump.
Speaker 10: But it's just what Donald Trump has been saying for
Speaker 10: so long, not just Trump Republicans, Like.
Speaker 5: It's mind boggling to me that you know, since World
Speaker 5: War Two, the economy has always done significantly better with
Speaker 5: a Democrat president.
Speaker 8: But they haven't been able to make if they don't,
Speaker 8: we don't say it, right, yeah, and we don't celebrate
Speaker 8: it either, But you're absolutely right with the ones who
Speaker 8: are the economy, they're the ones who take money from
Speaker 8: you give it to the top one percent right, but
Speaker 8: then runal campaigns about you not being able to keep
Speaker 8: a roof over your head.
Speaker 1: Why do democratics that's so scary around money and Republicans
Speaker 1: like we are scared to I feel like I feel like, well,
Speaker 1: this is just my assumption. I feel like Republicans are
Speaker 1: not afraid to tell you, like, look, this is how
Speaker 1: I grew up, but this is what I got, this
Speaker 1: is what I've done.
Speaker 3: That's where I can get you with us.
Speaker 1: I feel like we always have to be the like humble,
Speaker 1: the I'm still I feel you, I'm still here with you.
Speaker 1: And I think there's a lifestyle that people aspire to
Speaker 1: and want. Everybody wants to you watch Trump eat in
Speaker 1: your house for a long time. Everybody wants to lift
Speaker 1: this lifestyle, have this money, and they see him and
Speaker 1: he leans into it.
Speaker 3: We just I don't know why, why do we have
Speaker 3: to know that? I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that on this side of the like
Speaker 1: on the Democratic side of how that people are that
Speaker 1: rich either, Like I think the most important thing to
Speaker 1: understand is like Donald Trump is a failed businessman who
Speaker 1: has projected riches but not rich at all, And even
Speaker 1: especially after these court cases and the fines he's had
Speaker 1: to pay and have to borrow money to pay them.
Speaker 1: But Kamala Harris on the other side, talks about being
Speaker 1: raised in a middle class household and she went straight
Speaker 1: from law school into public service.
Speaker 7: But the inspiration never does win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying that the reason why there's start of
Speaker 1: leaning in here is because that would be false.
Speaker 7: But he is false too.
Speaker 8: It's leaning into it, I know that, But I think
Speaker 8: that it's it's people like to vote for something that
Speaker 8: looks like a success. And he exudes success even though
Speaker 8: all of his businesses crumbled underneath his thumb.
Speaker 7: But he's marketing, suggested otherwise, sparketing.
Speaker 8: I mean, he owns a company right now that ain't
Speaker 8: nobody own his platform and it's and it is it
Speaker 8: is somehow value that of the same value of the media.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well the.
Speaker 5: App that he social Hey, I just want you all
Speaker 5: to know that Trump is at two ten and the
Speaker 5: old people in South Carolina and is panic.
Speaker 16: And I'm looking at my group chet well, let me
Speaker 16: let me tell you guys, Facebook group chest the old
Speaker 16: People's not going how many great suff the old Jesus
Speaker 16: definitely green?
Speaker 9: Yeah, and Jess it looks like, look like we're in trouble.
Speaker 5: Trump is overforming.
Speaker 3: Where is he overperforming?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that's the question we have to answer if
Speaker 3: they can point us to the states where he's overperforming.
Speaker 5: I think we have seen inconceivable he said, this isn'tconceavable.
Speaker 8: Me.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you.
Speaker 1: Is this one thing that we've seen and we saw
Speaker 1: it happen in Florida as well, Andrew in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: there are several ballot initiatives in states all over the country.
Speaker 1: One that's up in Arizona is Proposition of one thirty nine,
Speaker 1: which is the right to abortion. Right now, that ballot
Speaker 1: initiative to ensure that there is a right to abortion
Speaker 1: in the state is overperforming Vice President Harris right now,
Speaker 1: that is a yes. It is a sixty three point
Speaker 1: one percent of the vote. Whereas she's performing and I lost.
Speaker 3: Oh, here it is. She currently has forty.
Speaker 1: Nine point five five percent of the vote to Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's forty nine point six. She's neck and neck, But
Speaker 1: that right to abortion is overperforming. I'm interested too, I'm interested. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see why that is. Because if federally
Speaker 1: they're able to ban abortion. That state ballot initiative does
Speaker 1: not matter. It gets Trump, it gets trumped because of federalism.
Speaker 3: I would argue that most people likely do not understand that.
Speaker 3: I know they don't.
Speaker 6: And I will say something controversial that I disagreeing with
Speaker 6: Charlemagne about, you know, him speaking to the poor, and
Speaker 6: this is what people care about.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say something that people don't like to hear.
Speaker 1: What most people in this country are are not intellectually
Speaker 1: curious about a lot of things. And I think Trump's
Speaker 1: rise to power has coincided with the dumbing down of
Speaker 1: the American electorate and the confluence of things that led
Speaker 1: to that. If you ask, most people are where are
Speaker 1: you getting your information from? Most people are not reading papers.
Speaker 1: Most people are not even curious enough to read a website.
Speaker 5: But it's fair.
Speaker 7: It's it's also fair.
Speaker 3: It's the fact that he's saying immigrants are come and
Speaker 3: taking you jobs.
Speaker 6: But you can look and see if that information is
Speaker 6: true or not. Like I I read probably eight papers
Speaker 6: every day. But there are things that when you read
Speaker 6: the article and then you see what's on television, it
Speaker 6: is a snapshot of something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but people don't see that. They don't see that
Speaker 3: Mercy schools are clothes immigrants.
Speaker 5: Hotels.
Speaker 9: Don't have to be intelligent to know that you can't.
Speaker 5: Eat, don't.
Speaker 1: I agree with that because they're real like I don't.
Speaker 1: They don't have had the time to do this because
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out Okay, bet so my kids.
Speaker 6: But they do have the time. That's my problem. If
Speaker 6: you can sit on Instagram for an hour, you have
Speaker 6: the time to look at a camp.
Speaker 7: But do you have the time to part even if
Speaker 7: they did? Right now?
Speaker 8: With the disinformation of information, you don't know what's true
Speaker 8: or what's not. You don't know, and you can find
Speaker 8: an opinion out there that looks angel that reflects your view.
Speaker 1: But I will facebook all the wrong all the wrong
Speaker 1: cousins from Facebook. I'll be like, get off the inner
Speaker 1: I said, share respond. I do want to say too.
Speaker 1: There's one other disparity I want to talk about. I
Speaker 1: know I just talked about abortion on the ballot in Arizona.
Speaker 1: One of the other things that we haven't talked a
Speaker 1: lot about tonight are split tickets. So some people will
Speaker 1: vote Democrat or Republican at the top of the ballot
Speaker 1: and then do something different when they go down ballot.
Speaker 1: One place where we're seeing that again is in North Carolina.
Speaker 1: We talked earlier about the craziness that was Mark Robinson,
Speaker 1: who's only captured forty percent of the vote to Josh
Speaker 1: Stein's fifty five point one percent of the vote. But
Speaker 1: when you look at Kamala Harris's percentage right now, it's
Speaker 1: it's significantly lower. She's at forty seven point eight percent
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump's fifty point eight percent, so it's slightly
Speaker 1: under three percent. There's a difference between them, but the
Speaker 1: other the gubernatorial candidate Molly wopped Mark Robinson.
Speaker 3: But it'd been nice to see consistency. But we talked
Speaker 3: about split.
Speaker 6: Tickets earlier, that there are people who will vote for
Speaker 6: the top of the ticket and then vote differently down valley,
Speaker 6: especially on some of those vallid initiatives. But I still
Speaker 6: maintain that people do that because they don't understand the
Speaker 6: process and how it works. And I'm not blaming that
Speaker 6: exclusively on people voters and non voters. I think there's
Speaker 6: a lot of shared responsibility in that. But we have
Speaker 6: to at some point start holding voters accountable for having
Speaker 6: the intellectual curiosity to at least go out and look
Speaker 6: and find information. And I don't buy this that people
Speaker 6: don't have time, because it might be if they have
Speaker 6: time to send articles on Facebook, you have time to
Speaker 6: go to the source.
Speaker 3: You can literally go to the campaigns and see where people.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question.
Speaker 10: With an hour before we get to midnight Eastern time,
Speaker 10: what should we be looking for? What should we be
Speaker 10: seeing Jesus, what's to be coming in now?
Speaker 6: I don't know if that we'll see the major states.
Speaker 6: I don't know that we'll get results tonight from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 8: Wiss Well, Again depends on how quickly how many people
Speaker 8: accountant to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9: With Trump at two ten, what state could come in
Speaker 9: right now?
Speaker 5: You'd be like, all right, bro, so.
Speaker 8: Well, California could come in and he would be less
Speaker 8: than where she is and the total so yeah, and
Speaker 8: the whole state is that all of the state, all
Speaker 8: of his votes will go one way or the other.
Speaker 9: And if we thought sixteen I remember when Hillary went
Speaker 9: CALLI and they're like, oh.
Speaker 7: Shoot, no, no, no, you asked now when midn'tight? What
Speaker 7: might what? What?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: For him? He would not have she would Happen's a.
Speaker 8: Big thing that can happen for any of them. It
Speaker 8: is going to be a state by state I mean
Speaker 8: there would be states that will put huge numbers back
Speaker 8: in her column. That's when California comes through. But if
Speaker 8: I were voted right now wondering about what I should
Speaker 8: be paying attention to, right I would be tracking the
Speaker 8: Michigan outcome. And again I think they were at fifty
Speaker 8: to fifty two percent of the vote being counted there Wisconsin, Uh, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: Michigan, Wisconsin is one there one percentage point a difference
Speaker 3: right now FIFI fifty six.
Speaker 8: Has a lot more than counted, so they will have
Speaker 8: to continue to watch those. And then I would throw
Speaker 8: in their Nevada and Arizona.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a question about you keep mentioning Nevada.
Speaker 1: I was listening to CNN earlier today and they were
Speaker 1: saying that if Kamala doesn't win Pennsylvania, she shouldn't. She
Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry because she can grab Nevada and
Speaker 1: the Arizona and one other state.
Speaker 3: How do you got?
Speaker 1: It just depends, So we have to actually look at
Speaker 1: the map, and we encourage all the viewers at home
Speaker 1: to do the same. There is electoral College maps and
Speaker 1: Lauren on here too. You can mark, I've been putting
Speaker 1: the numbers on the line.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I've been saying I need to ie. So you were
Speaker 1: saying Michigan, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: Nevada's battle ground, uh Arizona. You just said Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia.
Speaker 8: North Carolina Georgia again are not states that are must
Speaker 8: win states.
Speaker 3: For her to win them depending on how the rest
Speaker 3: of the map.
Speaker 8: Are, assuming the blue wall holes, which I don't have
Speaker 8: a reason to think that it would. But if it
Speaker 8: if it, if it held, she won't need either of
Speaker 8: those two states to make the difference for her.
Speaker 7: Other than so they just said.
Speaker 1: I just want to shout out myself because they just
Speaker 1: said seeing in Nebraska's fascinating.
Speaker 3: I said that. Everybody blew me off.
Speaker 17: I did that.
Speaker 9: We got another text from a ol G.
Speaker 3: What is happening on the phone over eighty answer over.
Speaker 5: Eighty o G. Her but's getting kicked still with a
Speaker 5: hell married past God willing.
Speaker 3: Oh they're all to the states.
Speaker 5: What the streets are saying is what the streets are saying.
Speaker 3: Look, what I want you to do is look at
Speaker 3: knowing compared to twenty twenty, I.
Speaker 8: Thought had lost, and we went to bed about two am. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and I was fully prepared for a Trump presidency when
Speaker 8: I woke up, and we woke up the next day.
Speaker 7: The numbers have flipped, and in the ensuing days they're not.
Speaker 1: It's not that they flipped if you do all the
Speaker 1: count but yeah, I want to make sure that we're
Speaker 1: very careful about our language because we're expecting political violence
Speaker 1: from people that are suspecting that the election is rigged.
Speaker 1: When you look at the exit polls for Trump supporters
Speaker 1: and be they're saying that they don't trust the process,
Speaker 1: even though they're turning out in large numbers. They're saying
Speaker 1: they don't trust that the voting process is one built
Speaker 1: in integrity. Well, we're not saying that now votes are
Speaker 1: going to flip to her. What we're saying is there
Speaker 1: are significant states that you need to count to get
Speaker 1: to two seventy that aren't in yet.
Speaker 8: Right I'm talking about the existing states that right now
Speaker 8: look as if they are Trump states, And as the
Speaker 8: vote continues to be counted and the tally is totaled,
Speaker 8: they end up in a different column. And they're not
Speaker 8: ending up there because they're being stolen. They end up
Speaker 8: there because the vote tallies dictate that that's exactly where
Speaker 8: they are supposed to be. The only reason why I
Speaker 8: keep saying I went to bed thinking one way is
Speaker 8: because if you're in a mood right now and you're
Speaker 8: wondering whether or not you know, we're repeating history. We
Speaker 8: are repeating history, twenty twenty history and not twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks it's almost the same. Look at it.
Speaker 1: So I'm showing letting our turn your computer this way.
Speaker 1: Tip is probably looking at it on our phone. Turn
Speaker 1: turn your computer, well, actually turn you over that way.
Speaker 1: I want you to come this is twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: Oh, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, so now can you shake your shoulders?
Speaker 1: Little bit going on down there? You're watching?
Speaker 3: Yeah, hell, I thought I heard a little juvenile.
Speaker 7: Okay, oh my god, yeah, they playing with you down
Speaker 7: I heard it. I heard it.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to focus up here.
Speaker 9: I heard.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling?
Speaker 9: I'm send that out for the old people.
Speaker 1: Honestly, right now, I feel like I'm learning in real
Speaker 1: time because I feel like I've never paid this much
Speaker 1: attention for this long. On election night, I think I
Speaker 1: go vote, we listened a little bit, go to sleep,
Speaker 1: wake up, it's whatever. So I think in real time,
Speaker 1: I'm learning just how these things can slowly progress.
Speaker 7: And yeah, yeah, I'm learning the watch.
Speaker 3: I honestly, for the last.
Speaker 1: I would say maybe like two weeks, I don't really
Speaker 1: feel anything. I'm just kind of waiting for whatever's going
Speaker 1: to happen so I can figure out what I have
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 7: We can praise.
Speaker 1: I'm at the point in my life where, like, whatever happens,
Speaker 1: I got to deal with it. I know what I
Speaker 1: want to hair home.
Speaker 10: I'm very hopeful, I'm afraid, and you know, with us
Speaker 10: jumping into politics like we did in the last couple
Speaker 10: of years, it's just so I have so many questions
Speaker 10: of why right in the last couple We've been doing
Speaker 10: it for about a more seriously last I would say
Speaker 10: six seven years. But you know, I want to I
Speaker 10: have questions like why, like why we still played with
Speaker 10: his electorial votes, Like I said earlier, why is it
Speaker 10: not just not the popular vote now?
Speaker 3: Like electoral college.
Speaker 1: I want to see Lauren and Envy run a campaign
Speaker 1: to get rid of the electoral college.
Speaker 3: Now I'm good. I just think it's I think what
Speaker 3: would be better. There actually are people doing that work
Speaker 3: that you can joined.
Speaker 6: And the Eric cold former Attorney General Airic Holder, who
Speaker 6: was the Attorney General under President Obama, he was posed
Speaker 6: this question a lot, and you know, they said, what
Speaker 6: would it hate to get rid of the electoral College?
Speaker 6: And they said, well, you know that's a heavy lift.
Speaker 6: And he said, well then we have to lift heavy.
Speaker 6: So his organization is actually fighting to do that. You
Speaker 6: can fund that organization, you can host something for him,
Speaker 6: you can be a part of it. As long as
Speaker 6: long as you're asked the questions, why, be sure to
Speaker 6: have an answer, contribute to the answer, like be a
Speaker 6: part of the solution.
Speaker 3: How effective is it is it?
Speaker 1: Like, because I feel like with the Green Party situation,
Speaker 1: like it's not effective, but it's there.
Speaker 3: How is what he is his campaign?
Speaker 8: I will tell you honestly, I think it's going to
Speaker 8: be near impossible to get white people to say we
Speaker 8: will give up our power and that's what that's what
Speaker 8: will be required. They don't have to say we're willing
Speaker 8: to give up our power. So in republic, so in
Speaker 8: the state of Florida, we would benefit greatly by a
Speaker 8: populist vote being able to make a decision, except that
Speaker 8: I also know that if I did that, the majority
Speaker 8: of populated places are democratic and they will use Democrats
Speaker 8: every time in a popular vote.
Speaker 7: So if your power is derived.
Speaker 8: From people making policies that benefit largely white Republican voters,
Speaker 8: why would I change.
Speaker 7: I'm not giving that away.
Speaker 8: So I think it is going to and because you
Speaker 8: got to get two thirds of states to agree to
Speaker 8: a change in the constitution, we better start spreading out
Speaker 8: and you know, high grade.
Speaker 1: It's our advantage. I'm going nowhere. I want to I
Speaker 1: just really quick. I wanted to just highlight some of
Speaker 1: these valid initiatives again. Colorado Amendments seventy nine, the right
Speaker 1: to abortion and health insurance.
Speaker 7: Coverage passed and Florida went down.
Speaker 3: Florida it did not pass.
Speaker 7: Maryland marijuana, oh wow, went down.
Speaker 1: Maryland passed the right to abortion amendment, and there's a
Speaker 1: few others that are still out. New York also passed
Speaker 1: the right to abortion amendments. So when you guys talk
Speaker 1: about why envy, we have to figure out a way
Speaker 1: to engage people beyond just candidates.
Speaker 3: We have to so many of these ballid initiatives.
Speaker 1: There were more than one hundred and forty, I believe
Speaker 1: in forty plus states, and fifty seven of those were
Speaker 1: led by citizens. They weren't led by elected officials, They
Speaker 1: didn't come down from state legislators. We gotta figure out
Speaker 1: a way to get people involved. What we do know
Speaker 1: is the way that we've done it has historically just
Speaker 1: barely worked. But I think there are a whole lot
Speaker 1: more people out here in this country that think like us,
Speaker 1: who are just disenfranchised, who feel like they've.
Speaker 3: Never been heard and never seen by the political process.
Speaker 1: So I'm so grateful to be doing this show with
Speaker 1: y'all tonight as Leonard zones out, because I think I
Speaker 1: think that we need to be with y'all to figure
Speaker 1: out what how can we make this conversation more pedestrian,
Speaker 1: more accessible, and more tangible so people feel like there
Speaker 1: is a pathway to victory for them with building political power.
Speaker 10: Do you think celebrity works, because we were talking about
Speaker 10: this on the Breakfast Club. Do you think all these
Speaker 10: you know, needing all these celebrities to speak and celebrities
Speaker 10: to perform in celebrities KAA, he doesn't mean anything though.
Speaker 5: For whatever reason, it doesn't seem like celebrity works for Democrats,
Speaker 5: but for some strange reason, the celebrity billionaire works for Republicans.
Speaker 7: I don't think it works for either.
Speaker 8: But I tell you what they do do because I
Speaker 8: ran a campaign that's solicited celebrities to come in and
Speaker 8: help as well.
Speaker 7: What they do is they bring attention.
Speaker 8: They bring the news to stories that don't you know,
Speaker 8: if you're not getting pressed, they can help get you
Speaker 8: some you'll take advantage of that. But it has been surveyed,
Speaker 8: it's been polled, it's been proven that the most influential
Speaker 8: voice to change your perspective one way, as it relates
Speaker 8: to who you might support or not support, is a person.
Speaker 7: That you know personally.
Speaker 8: So we have the most influence over the family we have.
Speaker 8: We have the most influence over our true friends, the
Speaker 8: folks who look to you. They trust you, and they
Speaker 8: believe you. But celebrities bring attention, and I think that's
Speaker 8: a value to a campaign. But when you think about endorsements,
Speaker 8: it's the endorsement of the person you know, you trust,
Speaker 8: you have a relationship with that's gonna move you.
Speaker 7: To vote a certain way or to vote at all. Right,
Speaker 7: it's gonna be our family, the people we knowing.
Speaker 3: I don't think celebrity works on the right either.
Speaker 6: I don't think there are people who are voting for
Speaker 6: Donald Trump because Hawk Hogan shows up or Kid.
Speaker 3: Rock shows who's not even delivered votes for Trump?
Speaker 6: I had support, I do, so you think there were
Speaker 6: people who were I'm not going to vote for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Oh but wait, Elon Must supports what about the way
Speaker 3: to manipulated that all day long? That is different. That's
Speaker 3: not celebrity.
Speaker 5: I haven't watched it, but a lot of people have
Speaker 5: been raving about the interview he just did with Joe Roge.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's all over everything.
Speaker 5: I haven't watched it, but they're saying what they was like, Yo,
Speaker 5: he's stilled the deal he sold me on, I'm not
Speaker 5: even yes.
Speaker 3: I've heard your business. You're saying what now? Must did
Speaker 3: an interview with.
Speaker 9: Two days two or three days ago.
Speaker 5: Everybody was saying how he they was like you he
Speaker 5: stealed to deal with I don't even know what he said.
Speaker 6: I would go back to my earlier point about the
Speaker 6: dumbing down of the American electorate. When Joe Rogan is
Speaker 6: your go to person who can convince you to vote
Speaker 6: one way or another.
Speaker 1: Musk Elon Musk didn't just do that interview though, He's
Speaker 1: literally changed the algorithm on Twitter so that we're seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of conservative and miss I feel like it
Speaker 1: should be, especially when he went on stage and was like,
Speaker 1: I got a million dollars, Finny to show me that
Speaker 1: you registered to vote somewhere.
Speaker 3: Say it was just projected for vice president here. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but I know he got to look crazy
Speaker 3: everyway to tip only the people down here.
Speaker 5: I think that we complicate a lot of these things,
Speaker 5: and it's it's just kind of simple, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It's literally about people want to feel like they got
Speaker 5: more money in their pocket and they want to feel safe,
Speaker 5: and that is Those are two very simple things.
Speaker 9: That for some reason Democrats aren't able to.
Speaker 1: So why do they believe the Republican who has a
Speaker 1: track record in the history of saying this is not
Speaker 1: a thing, are saying this is gonna happen, but it
Speaker 1: actually is not a thing. Versus democratic administrations that have
Speaker 1: proven over and over again through tax credits, through trying
Speaker 1: to democratize what's happening with She's coming to grab me
Speaker 1: about to go down there with the people and be
Speaker 1: down there. We can back and forth a little bit.
Speaker 1: So okay, in my heels, about to track it down
Speaker 1: there to be outside with the before you guys, what
Speaker 1: what you say? Don't you sitting here looking like a
Speaker 1: white blow your hands gonna be blowing white toes.
Speaker 3: Don't see it. Keep the light skins out of it. Lauren,
Speaker 3: we was all together.
Speaker 5: Tell them we got sorry, got her retail comb to
Speaker 5: get up under her home.
Speaker 1: When you do, he just man that he needs sell.
Speaker 1: When I get to the we can't wait to hear
Speaker 1: from you, Laura, we're gonna see you down there.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'ldia.
Speaker 1: California's in, which what Andrew was saying earlier that the
Speaker 1: lead will decrease once California comes in. She's not ahead,
Speaker 1: but the lead is significantly discre decreased with California coming in.
Speaker 1: So tell all them South Carolinians both we see walking all.
Speaker 7: Over that what I do?
Speaker 5: What I said? I see them the map, and I
Speaker 5: said this was the map. In twenty twenty, she came back.
Speaker 3: She came in updating us on something we already doing.
Speaker 3: Lauren needs headpoles that ain't delayed. Poor baby.
Speaker 8: I'd be curious to know what percent of the vote
Speaker 8: is in in Pennsylvania Michigan.
Speaker 3: So right now on the.
Speaker 1: Map that I have, it says too close to call
Speaker 1: sixty eight percent in Pennsylvania and Michigan.
Speaker 3: It's too of course it reloaded.
Speaker 5: I was talking Pennsylvania for me, I got sixty seven
Speaker 5: percent reporting and fifty one percent for Trump.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: North Carolina eighty six percent reporting fifty point nine percent
Speaker 5: for Trump, Michigan twenty seven percent reporting fifty one point
Speaker 5: two percent for Trump. Georgia ninety percent reporting fifty one
Speaker 5: point one percent for Trump.
Speaker 1: Jesus Wisconsin is sixty percent reporting fifty point four percent
Speaker 1: for Trump. Now I got forty nine point nine and
Speaker 1: she's a She's at forty eight point four percent, which
Speaker 1: is just a little under two percent and at the
Speaker 1: very very close races. What we need to remember, Tiffany
Speaker 1: said this earlier as well. Some of the last counties
Speaker 1: to be counted are the blackest, and most and the
Speaker 1: most urban counties because they are significantly larger counties, so
Speaker 1: those are normally holdouts. They're also the ones that experience
Speaker 1: the most death threats, the most harassment and so and
Speaker 1: we've seen that across the board, both in southern states
Speaker 1: like Georgia and of course in Pennsylvania, as we reported
Speaker 1: earlier today.
Speaker 7: Well, regardless of the tactics, somebody will win those states.
Speaker 3: Mi shell Over.
Speaker 6: There was an incident at a polling site earlier this
Speaker 6: week in South Carolina that Bakari Sellers shared with us.
Speaker 6: He posted it on Twitter, and it was all the
Speaker 6: polling workers, all the pole workers were black women. I'm
Speaker 6: sure you've seen this, and the white man with the
Speaker 6: Maga hat on. He was not supposed to be in
Speaker 6: there with the hat on. They were trying to ask
Speaker 6: him to take it off, and he wouldn't and he
Speaker 6: got he physically confronted the black women.
Speaker 3: I watched that.
Speaker 6: It was about six or seven black women and this
Speaker 6: white man and he got violent with them. And I
Speaker 6: watched that and I knew instantly that he would never
Speaker 6: have behaved that way had those been black men in
Speaker 6: that room.
Speaker 3: They only act like that when they're.
Speaker 7: Good.
Speaker 6: I felt like all the black women should the one
Speaker 6: woman had the cane. I'm like, y'all should have took
Speaker 6: that cane and beat the crap out of that, dude,
Speaker 6: because I got to assume my life is in danger
Speaker 6: if you're confront of me like that. But I bring
Speaker 6: that up to say, one, the threats of political violence
Speaker 6: are real. We have tangible evidence of that. But two,
Speaker 6: these are the people Charlemagne that you're saying, what do
Speaker 6: we do on the other side of this? I have
Speaker 6: no interest in connecting with that man. I already know
Speaker 6: who he is. I already know who those pockets of
Speaker 6: people are, and I wonder how eboldened these folks will
Speaker 6: continue to be regardless of how this race turns out.
Speaker 6: That's really what's the main thing on my mind, because
Speaker 6: we may not know what happens tonight, but regardless of
Speaker 6: what happens, there is an ugly underbelly in this country
Speaker 6: that has been unearthed in a way that puts us
Speaker 6: all in harm's way.
Speaker 5: I think Jim Clyburn said it's gonna be Jim Pro
Speaker 5: two point n Clyburn said it was gonna be Jim
Speaker 5: Pro two point Oh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all right, do you guys have any concerns
Speaker 6: about that? Look, we all live in cities where we're
Speaker 6: gonna be mostly safe. They're you know, progressive cities. Uh
Speaker 6: in black cities. But I'm curious if you guys are
Speaker 6: worried about family members or whatever happened.
Speaker 5: I don't even think you can be I don't think
Speaker 5: you can be safe in a progressive city.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say that over I feel safe.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm here at the nation's capital.
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 10: I don't feel safe sometimes a journy, especially for my
Speaker 10: kids going around. You know, I got to worry about
Speaker 10: my kids driving down the road and a big pickup
Speaker 10: truck where a Trump flag comes and sees him, and
Speaker 10: what they might do, what he might think about doing
Speaker 10: if my son cuts him off by accident, what they
Speaker 10: might you know, possibly be doing for my son, or
Speaker 10: say anything with my daughter. So I am very nervous,
Speaker 10: and I've seen how it shifted in the last I
Speaker 10: would say ten years before that, I.
Speaker 3: Didn't get that. I didn't have that as much.
Speaker 10: But I seem like, I feel like a lot of
Speaker 10: times when I see that Trump flag, it's almost like
Speaker 10: a sign of racism.
Speaker 3: When I yeah, so it does make me nervous.
Speaker 10: Regardless of what state I live in or what state
Speaker 10: I visited, I feel like it's everywhere. And then when
Speaker 10: I visit these states, and I visit these cities, and
Speaker 10: I'm doing shows in these cities, and I see people.
Speaker 10: I was in Sophora the other day. I was getting
Speaker 10: something for my wife and a guy walked in with
Speaker 10: a red Make America gray had again, and it's scared
Speaker 10: to shoot out of me. It's just because it was shocking.
Speaker 10: He was just going in there shopping. But that's what
Speaker 10: that means to me when I look at it, and
Speaker 10: it means that to a lot of people.
Speaker 7: Agree.
Speaker 1: It's so triggering, I think, especially I think it didn't.
Speaker 1: It was irritating in twenty sixteen, but after what happened
Speaker 1: on January sixth, twenty twenty one, where you literally saw
Speaker 1: the Trump flag, the Confederate flag, and the American flag
Speaker 1: all together on January sixth, All of them are triggering
Speaker 1: to me, but that one especially because it's like, I
Speaker 1: understand everything that this man is connected to. But trump
Speaker 1: Ism wins the day for me. It wins the day
Speaker 1: for me over democracy, It wins the day for me
Speaker 1: over whether or not we can be equal or not.
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't want to share my power with you.
Speaker 1: Is the message that I feels like they're sinning. So
Speaker 1: I understand exactly what you're saying. I was telling my homegirls.
Speaker 1: We were two of us were getting ready to go
Speaker 1: eat in New York and this man was wearing a
Speaker 1: Make America Grade Again hat and he passed me once
Speaker 1: that he passed me twice, and then he came back
Speaker 1: a third time.
Speaker 3: And by that time Alicia was there, and I was
Speaker 3: so scared. I was like, does he know who we are?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 3: Is he coming to attack?
Speaker 1: I literally just got on the phone just because I
Speaker 1: was waiting for our reservation at the restaurant.
Speaker 3: It is so triggering and it's very scary.
Speaker 1: So in a place like when it was, It's in
Speaker 1: New York, and it's like in Tribeca, right, It's not
Speaker 1: like you know, in the Bronx or it's places where
Speaker 1: you know some of the other folks can act a
Speaker 1: little different queens. It was literally right there in Rebecca
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, what's happening? Do I get
Speaker 1: ready to I think we had to go like that.
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, I'm not condoning violence, but if you
Speaker 6: are crazy enough fix on front me, I have to
Speaker 6: assume my life is in danger and I'm gonna act accordingly.
Speaker 6: And I think when I saw that man and how
Speaker 6: he treated those women, I assume their lives were in danger.
Speaker 6: So if I'm in presence and I'm assuming somebody else's
Speaker 6: life is in danger, I'm going to act accordingly in
Speaker 6: that case too. So again, this is something that transcends
Speaker 6: tonight's election results. This cycles election results. I just think
Speaker 6: we have turned a point in this country where the
Speaker 6: violence will become a lie more ubiquitous than what we've
Speaker 6: seen previous.
Speaker 5: That way, the Hampton University campus, why you contemplating where
Speaker 5: he's gonna moved?
Speaker 3: Father? Come on, Chris, come up here, Chris? What are
Speaker 3: you saying while Chris is coming up here?
Speaker 10: I was gonna say, so, we're on h U hamp universe,
Speaker 10: I said, Hampton Howard University's campus. Will Kamala Harris speak
Speaker 10: to the crowd regardless of what happens, She is gonna
Speaker 10: come out and she's gonna speak to the to the
Speaker 10: spits and alumni and all that tonight. Why wouldn't you?
Speaker 9: I would wait for what I don't know, Well, she
Speaker 9: has to.
Speaker 3: All these people are here. She will definitely come out tonight.
Speaker 3: I will't say this.
Speaker 10: Charlemagne and I were at Hillary Clinton's oh Lord celebration,
Speaker 10: and she didn't come out, so I was just asking her,
Speaker 10: it's just definitely coming out.
Speaker 5: If she was to lose, it wouldn't feel like that.
Speaker 5: Hillary was a complete and total shock, like.
Speaker 9: Whoa, what just happened? This isn't but she had the
Speaker 9: popular vot.
Speaker 5: This isn't.
Speaker 9: This is a recompletely total shock.
Speaker 3: You said this isn't. We're not, but we don't know you.
Speaker 9: We don't know yet what I'm saying. But if it
Speaker 9: was to happen, it wouldn't be a completely.
Speaker 8: Unexpected and unprecedented what we saw in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 5: Ye.
Speaker 8: Hillary Clinton was really the first model for that, like
Speaker 8: what do you do? Our Gore was another model for it.
Speaker 8: He didn't come out in two thousand. Uh, the evening
Speaker 8: is all.
Speaker 3: Right, went okay, another state for vice president here.
Speaker 1: Is And while we're waiting to see what that state is,
Speaker 1: Chris Morrow feeling brohi is are we call him the Podfather?
Speaker 1: Tiffany I was combined the names because I always say
Speaker 1: podcast godfather. He owes a reason choice with us, and
Speaker 1: he was over there looking crazy enough for Lenard to
Speaker 1: be like, look at grass, So we called him up
Speaker 1: here Chris, what's wrong with your man?
Speaker 18: I'm not feeling great at the moment. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 3: Show him to overlay it the map Lenard so he
Speaker 3: can calm down. He doesn't have to old one, he only.
Speaker 18: I mean, I've been I've been updating every couple of seconds.
Speaker 18: I mean, you know, I've been wandering around in the crowd.
Speaker 18: I'm trying to pick up some energy to boost myself up.
Speaker 18: I'm not finding it.
Speaker 7: Tell me what had you most concerned? Which states?
Speaker 18: Yeah, you, Pam. I mean, I'm a Pennsylvania native. I'm
Speaker 18: originally from Pennsylvania. Today Philadelphia. Well, I live in Brooklyn,
Speaker 18: so I voted in New York. But you know, my
Speaker 18: mother was at the polls this morning. She wasn't optimistic.
Speaker 18: So I'm concerned about that. And you know, maybe an
Speaker 18: hour ago, I think Harris was up eleven, and now
Speaker 18: it's completely swung and they have Trump up I think
Speaker 18: two right now with about sixty five percent of the voting.
Speaker 7: Two points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was sevente. I assume Philadelphia has not been
Speaker 3: counted yet.
Speaker 18: No, And then you know, I'm I'm here having a
Speaker 18: mini existential crisis over there, and I'm like talking to people,
Speaker 18: and people are like, these are the rural rural county
Speaker 18: cities haven't been counted yet. Don't freak out. There's still
Speaker 18: a long way to go, so I'm trying not to
Speaker 18: freak out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, don't. Okay, thank you, Yeah, I mean, I'm I'll
Speaker 7: share with you.
Speaker 8: We went to bed in twenty twenty thinking that the
Speaker 8: Democratic loss because similar maps were coming in until the
Speaker 8: ensuing days and the votes continue to be counted, and
Speaker 8: it's swaying the other direction, largely because absentee challenge ballots
Speaker 8: as well as many of the urban centers don't come
Speaker 8: in until later. They're the last and many places to
Speaker 8: come in.
Speaker 1: In states like Virginia right Like Virginia right now is
Speaker 1: seventy nine percent and she's leading by two percentage points.
Speaker 1: That's thirteen electoral votes right there too. So I think
Speaker 1: that we just have to pay attention to the ones
Speaker 1: that are too close to call, pay attention to the
Speaker 1: urban centers that haven't yet been counted. Those are the
Speaker 1: larger populations in those states. And then also the West
Speaker 1: Coast because a lot of these states they haven't even
Speaker 1: they haven't even opened up, that closed the doors yet.
Speaker 5: One thing you showed me on the back from twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Was they flipped Georgia in twenty twenty. Yeah, Georgia almost
Speaker 5: like flippant Georgia.
Speaker 7: They're not. They don't have to, you know, they don't
Speaker 7: have to.
Speaker 5: No, Okay, I think they could.
Speaker 7: Right now.
Speaker 3: It says there's eighty eight percent of precincts reporting and
Speaker 3: he's got just barely a two percentage point lead over.
Speaker 8: Again, Georgia's noted state. I was putting in the Democratic
Speaker 8: column it was a holy purple state.
Speaker 3: I mean, that was the first time. That was a
Speaker 3: huge deal.
Speaker 6: That took the work of a lot of people leading
Speaker 6: up to that election cycle for Georgia to go blue.
Speaker 7: But I don't think we know that george is a
Speaker 7: blue state.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. But I do think Georgia is decisively
Speaker 3: a purple state.
Speaker 7: Now I think it's competitive.
Speaker 1: Well, we talked about white folks earlier in states being
Speaker 1: very white, and that's why they're red. However, Oregon has
Speaker 1: been called for Kamala Harris as well, and that is
Speaker 1: very white.
Speaker 5: And there you got a live action Oregon Trail movie
Speaker 5: coming out. I don't know if you' all excited about that.
Speaker 7: I remember saying the hell of the transition. I remember
Speaker 7: playing that.
Speaker 9: That was a game, kid, I'm just trying to find
Speaker 9: some joy.
Speaker 7: When the wheel flew out, the wood wheel.
Speaker 5: And you had to shoot the bison.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the food.
Speaker 7: Good play that let me. Let me ask you guys
Speaker 7: a question. Was wall is the right pick?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 7: I think so. No, I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 7: it makes a difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's true.
Speaker 5: I could have it could have. I don't think because
Speaker 5: because she was a VP who made a difference for
Speaker 5: a lot of people. I did. I voted, I would
Speaker 5: have that's a good.
Speaker 3: Point, but made difference for me.
Speaker 7: I don't think.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think Josh Shapiro would have made a
Speaker 5: big difference statistically.
Speaker 7: I think it would have been harmful to her.
Speaker 3: I think he would have.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she already has enough baggage with the ceasefire people.
Speaker 6: I think having a Zionist on the ticket with her
Speaker 6: would have been detrimental to her.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the people are never gonna be on her
Speaker 5: side until it is the cease fire like they were.
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know about that. I think that
Speaker 6: there are people who can say, you know, I can
Speaker 6: hold my nose and vote for her. As you know,
Speaker 6: I don't anticipate something different happening. We had Mark Lamont
Speaker 6: Hill on the on our live show from Philly yesterday
Speaker 6: talk about that. But I mean I asked you'll recall,
Speaker 6: I asked Governor Shapiro when we were at the d
Speaker 6: n C his thoughts on Gaza, and he is very
Speaker 6: clearly he feels very strongly in support of of of Israel.
Speaker 6: And look, nobody is not in support of Israel, but
Speaker 6: we are just equally in support of a Palestinian's right
Speaker 6: to life and safety and the Palestinian's right to exist.
Speaker 6: I think having somebody who doesn't feel that way, or
Speaker 6: who does not openly project to feel that way, it
Speaker 6: would have been detrimental.
Speaker 5: Don't feel that way, definitely don't.
Speaker 7: But he's been out.
Speaker 3: I been out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you that. Where I agree with
Speaker 1: that too, it's not covered. Where they found Walls is
Speaker 1: where they should have left walls.
Speaker 3: That was on No.
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not saying that shady. No, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I'm not saying. In Minnesota. What people don't
Speaker 1: understand is that Tim Walls was absolutely campaigning.
Speaker 3: For the VP slot.
Speaker 1: As soon as things started moving, he was one of
Speaker 1: the first most profound pundits on cable news. They should
Speaker 1: have left him there. They should have never tried to
Speaker 1: restrain him on cable He was on cable news as
Speaker 1: a governor. As soon as Harris is at the top
Speaker 1: of the ticket, he went on immediately and was defending her.
Speaker 1: He's the one that came with the weird o messaging frame.
Speaker 1: He was very effective on cable news. They sought to
Speaker 1: restrain him when he got to the top.
Speaker 3: Or when he became number two on the ticket, and
Speaker 3: I think that was a very ineffective strategy.
Speaker 1: Now it will be the best thing ever if they
Speaker 1: pulled this thing out. But I will tell you, and
Speaker 1: they noticed. I've said the whole time, I'm very I'm
Speaker 1: very intrigued by Josh Shapiro. I think the way that
Speaker 1: he connects with people. I've interviewed with him with y'all,
Speaker 1: he's very, very good and effective. But I do I
Speaker 1: have to agree with tiff. We did hear Marklea mind
Speaker 1: Hill say on the show yesterday. As you all know,
Speaker 1: markle mint Hill is a member of the Green Party.
Speaker 1: He said he's voting for Kamala Harris, and he felt
Speaker 1: like she said a strong signal to them by picking.
Speaker 3: I'm not picking, Joshapiro.
Speaker 9: You know what bringing joy?
Speaker 5: Watching people enjoy their food, and I'm watching April Ryan
Speaker 5: over there going, why are you.
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 6: I think Charlemagne needs some joy, some more joy. And
Speaker 6: shortly we are going to be joyed by one of
Speaker 6: the most joyful women I know, and that's Latashah Brown
Speaker 6: a black voters matter.
Speaker 3: So don't go anywhere in the building. Can run to
Speaker 3: the bathroom. Okay, she's here, Oh she is, We're ready. Yeah,
Speaker 3: why you take a bio break that you want to come?
Speaker 3: You don't want to miss it. You want to be
Speaker 3: and don't get my tracksuit messed up? And oh.
Speaker 9: One thing Aboutsah Brown round is the realist?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 3: Oh yes, you don't take you right here? Oh Chris Morrow. Okay,
Speaker 3: Chris Morrow said, take his Natasha. Let's forget Latasha. Natasha
Speaker 3: to come on. We all tell her to get off
Speaker 3: the phone. Whereby if she were going on any other network,
Speaker 3: Get on your headphones on, can lo lo get some
Speaker 3: headphones that work? This is not work.
Speaker 5: Come Chris, you sure you don't want the edible?
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 3: You guys were having better property. There are no edibles.
Speaker 3: It's just a joke. Latasha, come on down around, come
Speaker 3: on down on the phone. Man, come on honey, right
Speaker 3: here side, right over there. Thanks Chris Morrow, Thanks Podfather.
Speaker 3: Come sit right next to Lenard. Tasha acts like you
Speaker 3: love him even though he's different.
Speaker 5: Here you go, Latasha, A.
Speaker 3: Fancy.
Speaker 7: Wasn't she your VP SG She wasn't amazing.
Speaker 6: Somebody is to be watching. He was waving, Doctor Kia
Speaker 6: Grant was waving and Andrew. But we are joined by
Speaker 6: Latasha Brown, sister Blackwater Matter. She runs that with Cliff
Speaker 6: all right, and we are so happy to have you
Speaker 6: on set. Latasha, because Charlemagne, why trying to bring our
Speaker 6: joy down.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just looking at the realistic reality. I'm
Speaker 5: just trying to think about all possibilities and all possible outcomes.
Speaker 17: But it's still a pathway, okay, Like it's still a pathway.
Speaker 17: And listen, the bottom line is for black folk, like
Speaker 17: at the end of the day, what do we do
Speaker 17: when it's easy at the end of the day, Like
Speaker 17: I hear, but there's no major surprises.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the only surprise though.
Speaker 17: Is how to hear all these millions of people of
Speaker 17: voting for this man like that, we know it, but really,
Speaker 17: what's gonna happen? I will say this, whatever happens tonight
Speaker 17: is a reflection.
Speaker 3: Of this country. That's right. That's just the truth.
Speaker 17: It's a reflection of where we are, what we think
Speaker 17: about ourselves, and what we think about each other as neighbors.
Speaker 3: And so that is the truth we can depend on that.
Speaker 1: You guys have knocked on so many doors and made
Speaker 1: so many contacts with voters, both old and new. Latasha,
Speaker 1: what are some of the surprises you saw in the
Speaker 1: field in some of the states.
Speaker 6: As Angela joined them. By the way, there's some people
Speaker 6: she did join. Black voters matter. She was nor Docking.
Speaker 3: That's like I messed up, I said, nord Docking on alive.
Speaker 3: I've never live it down. I was Angela was in
Speaker 3: these streets. I know something.
Speaker 17: I think the biggest surprise. There were no real big surprise.
Speaker 17: I think that the biggest My biggest surprise. Where we
Speaker 17: were talking to people a few days ago and they
Speaker 17: were saying that they were going to vote on like
Speaker 17: middle age folks, they were going to vote on election day.
Speaker 17: They weren't gonna vote on early voting because they didn't
Speaker 17: trust voting on early voting. And so that was a
Speaker 17: surprise to me. Right, I was really shocked to hear that.
Speaker 17: You heard that in Georgia, or I heard that in Georgia.
Speaker 17: But there were multiple states, right that there is. There's
Speaker 17: a lot of trust been eroded from across the country
Speaker 17: with some of the stuff that Trump has been seeing.
Speaker 17: It's so interesting because we don't think that it's hurtful,
Speaker 17: but it's been hurtful.
Speaker 3: For the entire process.
Speaker 5: And so he went North Carolina.
Speaker 17: I wasn't surprised. I said he was gonna win now Georgia.
Speaker 17: I'm a little I'm still trying to all the little face.
Speaker 3: Wait are you saying they projected?
Speaker 9: They called it.
Speaker 5: He's forty electoral?
Speaker 3: That's fine? Yes, yes, quite a distance, quite a distance
Speaker 3: how in North Carolina?
Speaker 12: Right?
Speaker 3: Ain't how you feeling? How you feeling?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 3: I am in this moment.
Speaker 17: I'm scared his head right, I'm holding my joy. But
Speaker 17: they got an do with me being scared.
Speaker 5: I don't want to know.
Speaker 3: Hope you got up here. Leonard said, where bring Natasha?
Speaker 3: Because she's a realist. Listen, he did say that before
Speaker 3: you got it right? You know it is what is
Speaker 3: scaring you. She just says she's scared.
Speaker 17: The number scaring me the number numbers. You know, Georgia,
Speaker 17: it's too close in Georgia. I really thought that Georgia
Speaker 17: was gonna have a different outcome North Carolina, I said,
Speaker 17: North Carolina.
Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised by North Carolina. Arizona.
Speaker 17: I'm a little surprised, but you know, I really thought
Speaker 17: that Arigrizona, that she would perform better in Arizona.
Speaker 7: It's gotta be.
Speaker 1: The results only fifty it's too close, but it's only
Speaker 1: fifty one percent.
Speaker 3: Okay, do you think he's gonna win Arizona? I? O, yes,
Speaker 3: you think he's gonna win. O Lord, what are your
Speaker 3: thoughts that? I'm a little disappointed that Georgia. Oh, I
Speaker 3: am super disappointed. Question what happened?
Speaker 9: Didn't say she have the magical powers the mobilized people
Speaker 9: in Georgia?
Speaker 5: Like what happened?
Speaker 6: Well, let me say Stacey Abrams did a lot. I
Speaker 6: never want to take away from what that's but I
Speaker 6: just want to say she did not do that work alone.
Speaker 6: But Raja has been on ground like for decades. Black voters.
Speaker 17: Listen, Sister did her work, and there's been a lot
Speaker 17: of groups that have been doing work. But we're going
Speaker 17: to have to actually say voter suppression doesn't go away
Speaker 17: because we're working hard, we actually have to overcome that.
Speaker 17: So we're seeing that in the South. This year alone,
Speaker 17: y'all has been over three hundred bills been passed around
Speaker 17: voter suppression.
Speaker 3: So for all of us, it's been harder this year.
Speaker 17: That's just a reality, and so ultimately that doesn't make
Speaker 17: it's still it's like you're moving the gold post.
Speaker 3: And you gotta jump higher.
Speaker 17: You gotta jump higher, and then when you don't jump
Speaker 17: that high, then it becomes like a reflection on something
Speaker 17: wrong with you.
Speaker 3: Working our tails off in Georgia, right, we've been on
Speaker 3: the ground doing our work.
Speaker 17: But when you are Persian hundreds of thousands of voters,
Speaker 17: when you're creating laws and make it much more difficult
Speaker 17: for people in the process, it hasn't a cumulative effect.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna deal with that.
Speaker 17: Whether Harris wins or not, that's still a reality that
Speaker 17: we're faced, particularly in the South, which is why we
Speaker 17: need voter We need to make sure that we have
Speaker 17: stronger voter rights.
Speaker 3: Who is the guy you were on the panel with
Speaker 3: in Georgia, the secretary. It wasn't Y. Yeah, so this
Speaker 3: is a concern of mine. Yeah, he's a jackass.
Speaker 6: But I want to say this because he did a
Speaker 6: sixty minutes profiled him and he said something that I
Speaker 6: thought was so telling. He said, voter suppression is not real,
Speaker 6: and neither is like what I'm paraphrasing, but essentially neither
Speaker 6: is this idea that you're stealing an election.
Speaker 3: I know, basically the left is wrong and Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: I mean, white folks said slavery was good job.
Speaker 6: Precisely they uplifted him because he did the right thing.
Speaker 6: He became a hero for doing what he was supposed
Speaker 6: to do. It's like if I go into a store
Speaker 6: and I don't steal nothing, I'm all of a sudden
Speaker 6: he z because he didn't find these eleven thousand votes
Speaker 6: for Donald Trump. This is my challenge because I think
Speaker 6: so many people were so willing to celebrate him, and
Speaker 6: yet we do still see rampant voter suppression in this
Speaker 6: of Georgia, and people think, no.
Speaker 3: We fixed all those problems, We solved all those problems.
Speaker 3: So I think it's so crucial what you just said,
Speaker 3: we are climbing hurdles.
Speaker 17: We're climbing hurdles. Yes, we're climbing mountains. It wasn't even
Speaker 17: in twenty twenty two. As matter of fact, each of
Speaker 17: the in twenty twenty two, what we saw people kept saying, well, see,
Speaker 17: there's no voter suppression because there's been high voter turnout. Right,
Speaker 17: as if we didn't the amount of resources, the time,
Speaker 17: and the energy that we're doing around getting people, making
Speaker 17: sure that people are voting, making sure that folks have
Speaker 17: access to the ballot, that's crazy, right, It's really uncomfortable
Speaker 17: where we're going. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 17: when we're seeing this, we still have to factor in
Speaker 17: voter suppression whatever. Regardless of the outcome, voter suppression is
Speaker 17: real and it's impacting us. And it's like, that's about
Speaker 17: thousands to shave off a few years, You shave off
Speaker 17: a few there.
Speaker 3: And then you get this upmate outcome.
Speaker 17: And so part of what we've always been concerned about
Speaker 17: is we've got to overwhelm the vote. But what that
Speaker 17: does is that place an undue burden on us because listen,
Speaker 17: I ain't owning this right here, I'm not owning this.
Speaker 3: White women are gonna have to own this.
Speaker 17: Right, white being gonna have to own this Latino of
Speaker 17: being and women gonna have to own that.
Speaker 3: We're not just gonna own this.
Speaker 17: It is not our responsibility to say this democracy solely
Speaker 17: by ourselves. My concern is that every single day and
Speaker 17: time time so we have done the work and it's
Speaker 17: been a beautiful, brilliant coalition of people doing the work.
Speaker 17: But the truth of the matter is America is structurally
Speaker 17: stuck into racism and will not fundamentally deal with that
Speaker 17: because at the end of the day, this particular, we're
Speaker 17: seeing white white supremacy walk around the parade this self
Speaker 17: right with UTA.
Speaker 5: That's why I think we have to stop saying, uh,
Speaker 5: we're gonna save the democracy. They're getting the democracy they want.
Speaker 5: They're getting the democracy they voted for. Oh they So
Speaker 5: we just honestly, we probably just in the way because
Speaker 5: this is what they clearly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not about It's not just about them.
Speaker 17: We're saving the democracy that we want to at least
Speaker 17: an element of it, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 17: we know harm reduction. So part of us we ain't
Speaker 17: black folks ain't crazy. We actually know that this system
Speaker 17: is racist. We know that this system has not worked
Speaker 17: in favor of us. We know that as marginalized. We're
Speaker 17: sitting here seeing a man with thirty four felonies, right,
Speaker 17: think about it, in a state that you couldn't even vote, right,
Speaker 17: having a felon conviction. Now it is that he's living
Speaker 17: and they actually were going after folks who were formerly
Speaker 17: incarcerated folks to get their rights back. But in that
Speaker 17: same state, this man has thirty four felonies and he's
Speaker 17: running for president. So we're literally looking at the double
Speaker 17: standard that has always been here. I don't think that
Speaker 17: black folks are fooled by believing in the system or
Speaker 17: protecting some democracy that is the democracy in the Constitution.
Speaker 17: But what we know is that when democracy is not
Speaker 17: in place, ie the opportunity for us to weigh.
Speaker 3: In on leadership, that it don't work well for us.
Speaker 17: When we're not able to put pe the place that
Speaker 17: actually a line or at least will protect us, it
Speaker 17: don't work well for us. Well, we don't have policies
Speaker 17: in place to make sure that we have resources for
Speaker 17: our children, for our families, it doesn't work well for us.
Speaker 17: So ultimately, there's a level of democracy that we're we
Speaker 17: recognize it's not the democracy we desire, we deserve, but
Speaker 17: it's one at the very least that reduces the harm happens.
Speaker 5: The pathway, the pathway Latasha, let me see what they're called.
Speaker 5: What's the pathway? Two thirty? What's the pathway to victory
Speaker 5: for the Michigan.
Speaker 3: No, she can still pull this Michigan. She gotta win
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 17: She gotta win Michigan, she gotta win in Pennsylvania, she
Speaker 17: gotta win Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: I think Minnesota is a done. Minnesota's done, is done.
Speaker 5: She couldn't even win the state that her VP from.
Speaker 5: And y'all telling me that.
Speaker 3: Was no that they didn't call that minutes No, I said,
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean I got that. Come on, now,
Speaker 3: come on now, it's too early to car it's too
Speaker 3: early to.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what was the biggest hurdle. Let you see, I think.
Speaker 3: Misinformation is disinformation.
Speaker 17: It's a huge right, Oh, absolutely, misinformation and disinformation like
Speaker 17: the kind of the information that is being seated in
Speaker 17: our community. And we can always tell it's interesting. We
Speaker 17: were going to some college campuses in Pennsylvania and North
Speaker 17: Carolina and we started hearing brothers at a particular.
Speaker 3: Age saying the same thing.
Speaker 17: And when you start seeing patterns, you're asking where you
Speaker 17: get that, and it's wrong information because something different right,
Speaker 17: And we kept hearing the patterns because there's information we.
Speaker 3: Know this is documented that Russia.
Speaker 17: Even right now that we saw in Georgia there were
Speaker 17: seven nineteen bomb threats that literally went to colds and
Speaker 17: polls in Georgia. Right the FBI put out a statement
Speaker 17: that that was from a rush. They checked paced that
Speaker 17: back to Russian. We've got to be clear I got
Speaker 17: Russian packages to my home in twenty twenty two, that
Speaker 17: there are other actors that have vested interest in this
Speaker 17: election cycle and they're actively targeting Black voters because we
Speaker 17: are leverage vote.
Speaker 3: But the truth of the matter is we're not the
Speaker 3: majority vote.
Speaker 17: We are the leverage vote, and so we've got to
Speaker 17: keep that we in order to have the kind of
Speaker 17: protection that we need. We literally have to have our liveship.
Speaker 17: And so the question is they're not gonna put this
Speaker 17: on the feet of just black vote. At the end
Speaker 17: of the day, I'm asking the question, don't be talking
Speaker 17: to me about no black men. What these white women
Speaker 17: need What do you.
Speaker 5: Think about things like somebody just posted an interesting data point.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump just won Anston County, North Carolina. The county
Speaker 5: is forty percent black. Trump becomes just the second Republican
Speaker 5: to win this county since the eighteen seventies.
Speaker 17: You know, I've got to look at what the turnout numbers.
Speaker 17: That seems like it's probably a turnout issue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it means it may mean and let me
Speaker 3: see it.
Speaker 9: Where is it Anston County, North Carolina.
Speaker 17: I need to see where it's located because I also
Speaker 17: am concerned about turnout. Part of North Carolina. I was
Speaker 17: concerned about turnout because.
Speaker 3: Of the storm.
Speaker 17: Right when you walked to the storm and I know
Speaker 17: you noticed andrew it uphill for your entire life. People
Speaker 17: are not really thinking about elections. It's not at the
Speaker 17: top of their peace. So for me, I would look
Speaker 17: at it and I would think, I don't think you're
Speaker 17: not gonna find this big exodus of black voters to
Speaker 17: the Republicans.
Speaker 3: I do think what you'll see is you'll see a turnout.
Speaker 8: Shit.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Arizona really quick and
Speaker 1: then go back to Arizona. The reason why I want
Speaker 1: to go back to Arizona is because right now he's
Speaker 1: beating her by point one percentage points. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden only won Arizona by point three percentage joint
Speaker 1: point three percentage points.
Speaker 17: So Arizona is a tough one and the Latino vote,
Speaker 17: like it's really the key vote in that area is
Speaker 17: a Latino vote.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to see what.
Speaker 1: You don't think that they would have responded positively to
Speaker 1: the immigration proposals by the Harris Walls ticket.
Speaker 3: They went a lot more conservative, right, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 3: I think. I think they went a lot more conservative.
Speaker 17: And we're gonna see. We're gonna see how to watch
Speaker 17: us out. You know what I've been hearing so far,
Speaker 17: and I haven't had a chance. That's why I'm having
Speaker 17: had the chance to really look at the data. So
Speaker 17: I want to be I want to be real and
Speaker 17: authentic what I'm saying. You know, I'm not trying, like,
Speaker 17: we gotta deal in truth. We gonna really take our
Speaker 17: people to the next level. We got to deal with
Speaker 17: the truth of it, and we've got to deal with
Speaker 17: what's the element of what is happening in this country.
Speaker 17: Because I do believe there's a larger issue. This ain't
Speaker 17: about just Trump and Harris. This really is a reflection
Speaker 17: of where we are as a country. Like, ultimately, there's
Speaker 17: some people that are saying we're gonna die on the
Speaker 17: sword right based on protecting white interests at all costs. Right,
Speaker 17: don't care about the democracy, we don't care about patriotism,
Speaker 17: none of that. At the end of the day, we
Speaker 17: at all costs, we're gonna protect white supremacy. This man
Speaker 17: has insulted every sing He's broken every rule that you
Speaker 17: can break.
Speaker 9: He got something greater than the white privilege.
Speaker 3: What you got, I don't know, white privilege, white privilege.
Speaker 3: Call will cause a civil war.
Speaker 5: The majority of folks, no, no, no, the greatest white man,
Speaker 5: Donald Trump marginalized this white man, that got white men,
Speaker 5: that got building, that's a child. They cowarded him. I've
Speaker 5: never seen anything like it. Like nobody knows how to
Speaker 5: deal with Donald Trump. Like we keep saying he's the
Speaker 5: threat of democracy. The deal j didn't treat him like
Speaker 5: a thread of democracy. The media don't treat them like
Speaker 5: a thread of democracy. And voters, damn sure, I ain't
Speaker 5: treating them like a threat of democracy.
Speaker 3: I've how many how many white men have had that
Speaker 3: like like like I've never done That's the only one
Speaker 3: I've ever seen it like this, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: we're saying that.
Speaker 17: But historically in this country, we've protected all kinds of
Speaker 17: white men doing all kinds of stuff. Epstein, all of
Speaker 17: them been. That's that was bit like like like we
Speaker 17: gotta be Kennedy. We can go on and on and
Speaker 17: on in terms of how America protects white men. In
Speaker 17: our lifetime, we've seen a different kind of reality, so
Speaker 17: we had a different expectation.
Speaker 3: But the structural racism that led you.
Speaker 17: Let me say this, if you protect and support a
Speaker 17: whole group of people being enslaves, like like what else
Speaker 17: were supposed to be shocked at what you do protecting
Speaker 17: a Trump. Hell, they have protected a.
Speaker 5: Whole lot of Trumps, but I've also seen I've also
Speaker 5: seen them big A lot of those white men deal
Speaker 5: with the consequence of their actions. I ain't seen him
Speaker 5: having to deal with consequence of nothing yet.
Speaker 3: That's why he.
Speaker 1: Literally is scheduled to be sentenced a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: from now. Let's not y'all, he still would have to
Speaker 1: be sworn it.
Speaker 7: None of that happen, and if he won this race,
Speaker 7: I think that.
Speaker 17: Happened before it was even No think it's a danger
Speaker 17: to make it seem like he's bigger than like because
Speaker 17: he's not. The truth of the matter is white people
Speaker 17: in this country have not felt the threat of losing
Speaker 17: their position in power.
Speaker 7: They're not protecting it.
Speaker 17: Yeah, they're not just protecting Trump because something Trump superman.
Speaker 3: They're protecting what he represents.
Speaker 7: They're protecting themselves.
Speaker 3: They're protecting themselves.
Speaker 17: And so ultimately, if we don't recognize that, and they've
Speaker 17: always done that, I can go historically or all of
Speaker 17: the black folks who have been killed and lynched and
Speaker 17: hung and nothing happened to them. So we talked about
Speaker 17: what he did. I'm talking about who actually killed our
Speaker 17: people and nothing happened to them. That came after us
Speaker 17: and nothing happened to them. So that's not something new.
Speaker 3: They ain't not new in America.
Speaker 17: Like, what we're seeing is a little different level of
Speaker 17: sophistication around it, and we've not seen someone and and
Speaker 17: we've not seen a level of protecting a candidate in
Speaker 17: our lifetime.
Speaker 3: But part of it is because it's not about the candidate.
Speaker 17: It's about what he represents, and he represents their position
Speaker 17: in a way that they're no longer going to be
Speaker 17: the majority of this country.
Speaker 3: That's a different ball game.
Speaker 5: Well, I maintained that we knew this election was going
Speaker 5: to be tight, and we know black people show up
Speaker 5: late for everything, so.
Speaker 3: Arizona to these show up late because man.
Speaker 8: Better late than But there's repeating this election is lost
Speaker 8: or winds should not fall on the backs.
Speaker 7: Of black folks, because what it would tell me at the.
Speaker 8: End of the day, if we have to go through
Speaker 8: these numbers, we're going to see that we had a
Speaker 8: lot of disappointment from white women if it didn't go
Speaker 8: the way that we think. Everybody's like, we're gonna break
Speaker 8: this fifty five percent. We got break fifty two percent
Speaker 8: support from white says, we don't.
Speaker 7: Know it for a back.
Speaker 3: When I tell you, I'm not talking to these hoes,
Speaker 3: I mean it.
Speaker 7: I come to them.
Speaker 1: Whoever voted for Trump, Oh, these white women voting for Trump,
Speaker 1: voting against their interests.
Speaker 3: Tell everybody, you're not gonna tell us what we're gonna
Speaker 3: do with our own bodies.
Speaker 10: The hell you know.
Speaker 1: They literally have voted to uphold an abortion band or
Speaker 1: to vote against an to vote against. Well, it's in
Speaker 1: North Carolina, the abortion band. They voted against it, the
Speaker 1: ballot initiative, but it's neck and neck with it was
Speaker 1: neck and neck with Kamala. They voted for josh Stein,
Speaker 1: but it's it was neck connected with Kamala.
Speaker 3: I don't get it. Let me say this white privilege
Speaker 3: is like some high end cocaine. We don't know, No, seriously,
Speaker 3: like we are not.
Speaker 5: We are in.
Speaker 17: Denial of how white privilege they've never been in a
Speaker 17: space in this nation that literally they have like their
Speaker 17: protection of every area of society particularly and in terms
Speaker 17: to the highest offices they've been protected on that we
Speaker 17: are we are really underestimated, right, how.
Speaker 3: Fearful they are of just sharing power. We're not even
Speaker 3: talking about just sharing power.
Speaker 17: So ultimately, what they're saying, what what we're seeing in
Speaker 17: this moment is that we don't care about any.
Speaker 3: It is out and we will give it all. We
Speaker 3: were burning all down in order to protect our privilege.
Speaker 5: So the white people, like the Merritgarlands of the world,
Speaker 5: didn't you a position, never have been there. Well, so
Speaker 5: whose fault is that the person who put him there,
Speaker 5: which is Biden Yeah, So why are those I thought
Speaker 5: those supposed to be the good white folks that's supposed
Speaker 5: to protect democracy.
Speaker 3: Well, here's what they miss calculated.
Speaker 7: And uphold democracy.
Speaker 1: They miscalculated the fact that this they picked him to
Speaker 1: be a safe Supreme Court justice, that they would be
Speaker 1: able to get passed.
Speaker 3: With profess Yes, once Barack Obama nominated him.
Speaker 1: And I think that there was some nostalgia or something
Speaker 1: where they thought, oh, we're gonna put this safe person
Speaker 1: here is to make them feel like we're reaching out
Speaker 1: and extending an olive bridge. Well, extending an olive bridge
Speaker 1: meant that you took put someone as the head of
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice in the Jay Agar Hoover building
Speaker 1: that continued the legacy of Jay Eggar Hoover.
Speaker 5: Another thing I learned, though, because you asked that earlier, Andrew,
Speaker 5: about what did we learn over the last year. I
Speaker 5: learned that a lot of people don't even know if
Speaker 5: Donald Trump does things wrong because he doesn't get treated
Speaker 5: like he's doing anything right.
Speaker 6: Right, I think that's what Tassa's point. So, Charlottmane, all
Speaker 6: the things you said, they were colossal failures. With the
Speaker 6: colossal failure by the media to not treat him that way.
Speaker 6: It was a colossal failure by people to not be
Speaker 6: on the front lines of misinformation and disinformation when technology
Speaker 6: was moving faster than or technology, Yeah, was moving faster
Speaker 6: than policy. It was a colossal failure of I say,
Speaker 6: voters for not being more intellectually curious about what's happening.
Speaker 6: I don't think that elevates Donald Trump. I think it
Speaker 6: just reflects where we are in society, which is heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: But I'm still not I still feel optimistic. We don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we know the big states that we're waiting for
Speaker 6: have not yet been called. And Andrew raised something good.
Speaker 6: I think we were all talking so we didn't hear it.
Speaker 6: But when you were talking about losing Arizona, Andrew said
Speaker 6: that he lost, and I put lost in quotes, but
Speaker 6: lost Florida by three point point three point three point three.
Speaker 8: So lections can come down then close and still not
Speaker 8: go your way. Every boat matters, it counts. But Latasha,
Speaker 8: you bought home. I think where we started this show
Speaker 8: about was really this conversation of white privilege and power
Speaker 8: and what it will do, how it acts instinctually to
Speaker 8: protect itself.
Speaker 7: It's like a knee jerk. That's like someone hits your
Speaker 7: knee and you kick hard.
Speaker 3: It's been a place for centuries, y'all muscle memories.
Speaker 7: They don't have to rehearse it, practice for it.
Speaker 8: It's instinctual that you respond a certain way when your
Speaker 8: body is attacked. Your body does the same thing. It
Speaker 8: races to wherever the intrusion is to kill whatever is
Speaker 8: coming for you. I act the same way about power.
Speaker 8: It has about to be taken from you. You do
Speaker 8: whatever it takes to keep it.
Speaker 3: Latasha, we were on the phone.
Speaker 6: We're on the phone chatting, and we were talking about
Speaker 6: how it feels different to you, and I would saying,
Speaker 6: but this isn't different.
Speaker 3: And I was I called Angela or she called Well. Somehow.
Speaker 1: We were on the phone with each other and I
Speaker 1: was telling her that you were saying it feels different.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it just doesn't. This is the same thing
Speaker 1: that we've always known. And Angela was like, no, it
Speaker 1: feels different to me too. At the time, you said
Speaker 1: I need to sit with it right to figure out.
Speaker 6: I just wonder if you've sat with it, and if
Speaker 6: you have anything that you want to share tonight about
Speaker 6: why it feels different. This time, and I would put
Speaker 6: that same question to you, Angela, like, why does it
Speaker 6: feel different this time when we really have, in my opinion,
Speaker 6: we really haven't seen anything new.
Speaker 3: Oh, I do think we've seen something new, and I
Speaker 3: do think that as different.
Speaker 17: Let me be clear, what white behavior does not determine
Speaker 17: or does not define everybody else's behavior necessarily, And I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying that that there is, Yes, there is a core
Speaker 3: group of folks in this country clearly.
Speaker 17: That align themselves with racist, misogynists, sexist ideas.
Speaker 3: That's clear, right.
Speaker 17: But what I have seen that has been distinctively different,
Speaker 17: and then I'll talk about the energy of what I'm
Speaker 17: feeling as well. Distinctively different is even we saw it
Speaker 17: different even from the Obama campaign. In the Obama campaign,
Speaker 17: it was this charismatic, brilliant brother that everybody kind of
Speaker 17: call less and surrounded around, and we're excited that he
Speaker 17: was gonna win. What we saw different with a Complice campaign,
Speaker 17: It's been that people have literally you saw folks really
Speaker 17: owing their own identity.
Speaker 3: That was very different. It wasn't just centered around her.
Speaker 17: You saw the cat ladies, the childish cat ladies, and
Speaker 17: the and the the white dudes and there is a coalition.
Speaker 17: Let me tell you, whether it's this election or not,
Speaker 17: there is there is a coalition of people that are
Speaker 17: building in this country. Literally that the majority is us. Now,
Speaker 17: whether that's reflected in the in the box is a
Speaker 17: different thing. But that's why you got voter suppression, that's
Speaker 17: why you got misinformation and disinformation. If you're just fair game,
Speaker 17: there's a majority of them, you ain't got to do
Speaker 17: all that.
Speaker 3: So let's be clear.
Speaker 5: Does this scal you Latasha that we may not know
Speaker 5: what that electoria might look like like, Like the Republican
Speaker 5: electoria might look totally different than in the Democrat electoria
Speaker 5: might look totally different than what we're used to. What
Speaker 5: do you mean, like in the future, like you see
Speaker 5: Republicans now they bringing in more black people.
Speaker 17: They're bringing in I'm gonna have to see these because
Speaker 17: let me say this, I'm not sure if that's the
Speaker 17: case that night.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, not even tonight. It's not convincing me
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 17: Let me say this, because I think that there is
Speaker 17: anytime you bring more people into any process, the vote
Speaker 17: spread is going to be greater. That's just math. White folks, women,
Speaker 17: black folks. Anytime you're gonna have a diversity of a
Speaker 17: voter spread. That's just as more people get involved in
Speaker 17: the process, there's a larger spread.
Speaker 3: And so I'm not convinced.
Speaker 17: The other thing is and we don't want to talk
Speaker 17: about this because we don't really want to talk about
Speaker 17: how capitalism works either. And so in capitalism, we have
Speaker 17: turned America to a big old commercial. It's a big
Speaker 17: ass commercial that ultimately everything is about marketing. Everything is
Speaker 17: about marketing. People are even literally making careers based on
Speaker 17: just marketing. And so at the end of the day,
Speaker 17: what we're seeing is people I can talk to somebody
Speaker 17: for five minutes and I can tell you if they
Speaker 17: read or what network they listen to. It's almost we
Speaker 17: have dumbed the dumbing down of this nation where people
Speaker 17: are really not even critical thinkings about things that they're
Speaker 17: literally attaching to particular kind of positions because it make
Speaker 17: them seem cool.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if y'all saw the thing.
Speaker 17: Y'all probably even talked about Walker Floka, this brother out here,
Speaker 17: he endorses somebody he ain't not go you never voted,
Speaker 17: and so but I understand because at the end of
Speaker 17: the day, who's who is it?
Speaker 7: Who is it?
Speaker 3: Come on?
Speaker 1: And I was going to tell y'all we're having such
Speaker 1: a profound discussion. But I was going to tell you
Speaker 1: that we were literally, uh sitting here. And while we
Speaker 1: were sitting here, Virginia Washington took Yes, Virginia organ event
Speaker 1: called since we've been sitting here. But it was such
Speaker 1: a profound discussion. I did not yet mean, let's say, hi, it's.
Speaker 7: Okay the same.
Speaker 3: Andrew said, damn it, I know I'm saying. You told them.
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 7: So we're still on track still, Yeah, okay, just making sure.
Speaker 3: And he was like, I just let me look at
Speaker 3: this map.
Speaker 7: Just take a show.
Speaker 6: When you hear Latasha say why it feels different to her,
Speaker 6: does that resonate with you? Is that the same feeling
Speaker 6: that you have?
Speaker 3: And what resonates with me.
Speaker 5: Is comes.
Speaker 3: Because you know I've found about the walking this elect
Speaker 3: I really do.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like if I gonna hand not lose
Speaker 1: hope because you guys don't want to see me there,
Speaker 1: I'm to I am, I am refusing to succumb that
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 3: I'm not tripping no more.
Speaker 5: Yeahnology listened, whatever, God God playing gonna happen.
Speaker 9: I don't ride ride with the VP. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Want music, yes, But Natasha, I want you to you
Speaker 1: got you, you are connected to the most time. I
Speaker 1: want you to close this out with something good because
Speaker 1: we know you got to go find some votes. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna find a vote.
Speaker 5: Every black GROUNDBA in America got God line backed.
Speaker 3: Up about that. Before you go there.
Speaker 10: I do have one question, right, you look at everything online,
Speaker 10: you look at banking online, we do everything online.
Speaker 3: Will ever get to a point where we can vote online?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 10: Because today I voted today right. They didn't even look
Speaker 10: at my ID.
Speaker 3: I came up my little.
Speaker 10: Pamphlet that they mailed to me, They scanned it, and
Speaker 10: I voted right. So it could have been you, It
Speaker 10: could have been somebody else who knows who Sean is.
Speaker 10: But will it ever get to a point where we're
Speaker 10: gonna be voting online?
Speaker 3: It will if we make it be.
Speaker 17: So the truth of the matter is, while we voting,
Speaker 17: like like standing in line, I can move a million
Speaker 17: dollars on my cell phone.
Speaker 3: Why can't vote?
Speaker 17: There are people actually that are voting online that are abroad,
Speaker 17: And so we've got to recognize that there are barriers.
Speaker 3: There are intentional barriers.
Speaker 17: So people don't participate in this process because the truth
Speaker 17: of the matter is all of America's not participating in
Speaker 17: the process.
Speaker 3: What I do know for sure is that there are.
Speaker 17: More Americans in my that I believe that I run
Speaker 17: into that really believe we like we believe like ultimately
Speaker 17: that is the truth. And so part of what we
Speaker 17: gotta do is we've got to organize. We've got to
Speaker 17: get people to really be even the media, the way
Speaker 17: that the media has given him a pass, that they
Speaker 17: have created a false equivalency. It's like the way that
Speaker 17: they've had a double standard for her versus them, Like
Speaker 17: all of that has fed into that they are to
Speaker 17: be held accountable ASTs too. So at the end, we've
Speaker 17: got to do the work if we want the kind
Speaker 17: of America that we desire, Oh, we want the count
Speaker 17: of nation. I always ask people wherever I go, I
Speaker 17: usually ask people to close your eyes and I'll just
Speaker 17: and I'll ask them what your eyes closed?
Speaker 3: What would this nation look like? What would America look
Speaker 3: like without racism?
Speaker 17: And most of the time, no matter where I go,
Speaker 17: ninety nine to one hundred percent, ninety nine percent of
Speaker 17: the people in the room. I don't care if I'm
Speaker 17: at a big college. I don't care if I got
Speaker 17: ten thousand the orders. I don't care if I.
Speaker 3: Got five hundred.
Speaker 17: Majority of us have never asked ourself this question. Let
Speaker 17: me take racism, ain't my damn inheritance. That is not
Speaker 17: my I was not given that. That's not who That's
Speaker 17: not what I'm gonna take on like that's what I
Speaker 17: was supposed to do for the rest of my life.
Speaker 17: That But but we if we're not asking that question,
Speaker 17: and we're not imagining and thinking about what is gonna
Speaker 17: exist beyond that.
Speaker 3: Right, because there was a sister all we can all
Speaker 3: bent out of shape because of the map and all
Speaker 3: this other stuff.
Speaker 17: Right, there was a sister named Harriet Tupman that came
Speaker 17: to the South nineteen times with a fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 17: bounty on her head. She believed when nobody else around
Speaker 17: her believe I wanted them, I'm gonna believe until they
Speaker 17: call it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna believe it. We and not just that
Speaker 3: call it even when they call it. We've got to
Speaker 3: recognize we've got more work to do that Ultimately, we've
Speaker 3: got more work to do that racism has shown itself.
Speaker 3: It is alive and well in this station. Trump is
Speaker 3: a prime example of why we do need d I.
Speaker 17: He's a prime example of why we need Affirmtive action,
Speaker 17: is the evidence of why we need those things. And
Speaker 17: so instead of backing away from them, we should even
Speaker 17: push harder on them.
Speaker 1: So that's what that's where we are in this moment,
Speaker 1: and right now, do you all just so that we
Speaker 1: can uh capture this moment right now? Forty nine Senate
Speaker 1: seats have been called for Republicans, forty one for Democrats,
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty two Democratic seats have been called,
Speaker 1: and one hundred and seventy three for Republican. Whoever is
Speaker 1: the quickest to two eighteen or if he gets to
Speaker 1: two eighteen, has the majority in the House, and whoever
Speaker 1: gets to fifty, of course in the Senate, depending on
Speaker 1: who is elected president. Of course, if there's a if
Speaker 1: it's a type, it's fifty to fifty the type, the
Speaker 1: type reckon vote, we'll go to the president.
Speaker 3: Broughton was the Vice President of the United States. LB.
Speaker 17: We love you, I love y'all today, y'all keep the faith.
Speaker 17: Listen them sisters out there them brothers out there. Come on,
Speaker 17: let's take it to the flow.
Speaker 3: Go to the closet. Go to the closet. Y'all will
Speaker 3: pull this through.
Speaker 9: I was going to get the guns.
Speaker 5: None of us were.
Speaker 3: We n coon violence on this.
Speaker 5: Field.
Speaker 7: We're going to the closet.
Speaker 3: Brother what else I don't know, But what we do
Speaker 3: know is the city are nip and tuck. As my
Speaker 3: dad would say, there's something happening. It looks like something
Speaker 3: that happened. Tasha. I just you are my Maya Angelou.
Speaker 6: I mean, you are just one of the most profound people,
Speaker 6: and I'm so blessed to know you, and I love
Speaker 6: every time you come on here and other people get
Speaker 6: to experience you, because she's an experience like I can't
Speaker 6: I try to say what you said, but the way
Speaker 6: that you say it is just so compelling, and I
Speaker 6: love that all these people feel your energy, Like I
Speaker 6: feel more joyful having heard what you have to say.
Speaker 3: And I really think it's a divine covering. That's what
Speaker 3: you're on this earth to do. So thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't give it. I can't leave yet, Okay, what
Speaker 3: we gotta do.
Speaker 8: I just in tribute as well to you and why
Speaker 8: our community needs more like you in the existing families
Speaker 8: and college campuses and the neighborhoods everywhere, and certainly in bands,
Speaker 8: the people who keep the tempo r they you know,
Speaker 8: you got the beat going in. But but everybody, regardless
Speaker 8: of what instrument comes in, what comes out.
Speaker 7: You're one of the people that keeps us.
Speaker 8: Left foot, right foot, left foot and right foot. And
Speaker 8: I think we need that so bad. We do uh
Speaker 8: as a community, we do. It doesn't exist in the
Speaker 8: culture personality.
Speaker 7: It's now spirit.
Speaker 8: Spirit enters us at different times, and you know, I'm
Speaker 8: just glad that the stays rest.
Speaker 3: Why we gotta believe y'all we were built for this.
Speaker 17: We do hard things, yeah, hard things, so I you know,
Speaker 17: and you can't control what other people do. All we
Speaker 17: gotta do is make ourselves be a light and do
Speaker 17: our part, so you know, we in.
Speaker 5: These in the experience, Democrats are now favored to flip
Speaker 5: control of the House.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I always thought we were going.
Speaker 3: The Democrats are gonna get the health Yeah, there are
Speaker 3: too many races are not called yet.
Speaker 1: But I am also gonna shout out my state again
Speaker 1: because Washington State has a blue governor and Bob Ferguson
Speaker 1: and Dave Riker left. He's he was saying he was
Speaker 1: gonna flip in the support abortion. He was in Congress,
Speaker 1: as you all know before.
Speaker 3: He did not win. So that's a little victory. And
Speaker 3: then Minnesota is too close to call, which I really
Speaker 3: am like that where the alls is from. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: too close. Gonna him now, list I'm gonna need him
Speaker 3: to deliver Minnesota. I'm gonna get him to at least delivered.
Speaker 3: But Epis, I need you come through.
Speaker 7: But I think he's will it. Will I know, I
Speaker 7: actually believe that.
Speaker 3: I believe that.
Speaker 8: I just.
Speaker 3: Don't believe that. I believe that we're gonna win. You
Speaker 3: know I didn't. I told you she said, I like him.
Speaker 5: If you don't like him, give him.
Speaker 7: The good news is it won't matter.
Speaker 3: Ilcome to.
Speaker 8: You.
Speaker 3: Guys. Andrew fiery. They Andrew is an asshole and everything
Speaker 3: all the time. So talking about brother, I love.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, but I.
Speaker 3: I love it too. But I want to get this.
Speaker 3: I want to hear this. Why what? What's what's this
Speaker 3: thing about?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 7: What? Why? Preferred Josh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I feel like he had a lot of
Speaker 5: energy when he started but it just it just wasn't sustainable.
Speaker 5: I never really bought into the whole weird phrasing to
Speaker 5: guy like that, but I knew it was gonna turn
Speaker 5: people off because you can't label people weird.
Speaker 3: Like that's like they shouldn't be weird. I mean, here's
Speaker 3: the thing. It wouldn't right. It would have stuck if
Speaker 3: they would have stuck his ass back on cable news
Speaker 3: where we saw him. They should have kept him there
Speaker 3: right in there.
Speaker 5: And there's a thing about and I just think there's
Speaker 5: a thing about watching old white men.
Speaker 3: I think I actually think he was good.
Speaker 5: And Donald Trump the old saying he got he got
Speaker 5: bodied by J. D.
Speaker 9: Vans in the debate, which he was.
Speaker 3: He was nervous. I don't think he got bold.
Speaker 6: I don't debate, but I wouldn't say he got He
Speaker 6: started off nervous and reason and.
Speaker 5: The reason he got bodies. The reason he got bodies
Speaker 5: because Katy Fans literally was out there every Sunday morning
Speaker 5: on those cables taking those hards, getting beat up.
Speaker 3: But they put him. They've tried to him good. I
Speaker 3: thought he was a good candidate. I really did. I'm
Speaker 3: not it's not over yet, but I do you better
Speaker 3: pulled Minnesota? He let her damn the sorry, but we
Speaker 3: weren't nervous about it. And he wasn't for me.
Speaker 5: He wasn't for us.
Speaker 3: He was for those I like him and his way.
Speaker 4: I just yeah, I don't know it was it was
Speaker 4: for white comfort. Yes, no, no, no no, no, he's
Speaker 4: a literally he did something.
Speaker 7: You let me tell you. They could look up, however,
Speaker 7: and see a white man.
Speaker 3: Can I just all the time, we have Lauren, who
Speaker 3: is I think at the other camera on the riser.
Speaker 3: Are we calling her up?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 1: Y'all told me five minutes? Okay, it looks she looks down,
Speaker 1: so I think that's okay. There's only five yes up.
Speaker 3: In the show. Are we calling Lauren in or we're not?
Speaker 3: They are calling her in?
Speaker 6: You know, she's been holding up that sign Lauren five
Speaker 6: minutes and lo Low's name is Lauren.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out why. She tells me
Speaker 1: was like, she's coming on, come on, we need to
Speaker 1: know what's happening, so somebody can.
Speaker 5: Tell I can tell you what's happening in that crowd
Speaker 5: clearing up that crowd trying to be traffic.
Speaker 3: Not clearing everybody on the people like y'all know, people.
Speaker 9: In my hairline don't.
Speaker 3: Need That's what we're doing.
Speaker 7: We are.
Speaker 5: To Lauren, you said, I still believe.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 5: Still, I believe, I believe we're all.
Speaker 3: Yeah that She was like Lauren five minutes I'm like, yes, Lauren,
Speaker 3: I see you. Listen it says eleven fifty five.
Speaker 5: I believe y'all Still what would make you be like,
Speaker 5: all right, now, we got to start dealing with reality.
Speaker 7: What we don't not real in reality now yet?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we deal with reality now.
Speaker 7: But with and what you said about Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 8: We gotta win it, There's no doubt about it. We
Speaker 8: can't win this without Michigan and Pennsylvania. It has to
Speaker 8: be a Michigan. Yeah, it has to be in the column.
Speaker 8: We we walk away with those three. I'm good tonight with.
Speaker 9: Shapiro on the ticket that delivered our Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7: I don't know about that because he comes with other
Speaker 7: a minute.
Speaker 17: If he don't deliver it any one on the ticket,
Speaker 17: that says something about him too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's the governor, so let me be real clear.
Speaker 3: He gotta come through that. I think that's fair. I
Speaker 3: think that's fair.
Speaker 16: So you all Democrats, everybody, Yes, absolutely, in the blue walls.
Speaker 17: Absolutely, if you are a governor of that state delivered. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 17: But I also think the really.
Speaker 7: Don't matter.
Speaker 8: We are not walking in the ballot box and saying well,
Speaker 8: I don't agree with that. Really is the only time
Speaker 8: I've ever seen the Mary was Sarah Sarah Palin.
Speaker 3: No, it mattered for me. With Joe Biden and Kamala Hare.
Speaker 7: Voted.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have voted for Trump. You would not have, right,
Speaker 3: but it still matters.
Speaker 8: It would you would not have changed your vote based
Speaker 8: off who the vice president is.
Speaker 7: And my point is this, no one does.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say I want to correct.
Speaker 6: And there is some disinformation floating with people are assesting
Speaker 6: that DJ Envy is high a f because he is
Speaker 6: bopping his hand.
Speaker 3: It's the music that isn't playing. I want you to know,
Speaker 3: y'all stand the bathroom. I was, Yeah, that's why you
Speaker 3: can't hear.
Speaker 7: And can be healthy.
Speaker 3: That fair Red comes real quick before we leave. He's
Speaker 3: come here. But then at least that way we have
Speaker 3: the other hands. But this is love, y'all. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: only how far because.
Speaker 9: Okay, but we may I was just told I was
Speaker 9: the vice president is about to.
Speaker 3: Come out very before that happens. We're mayor, read on,
Speaker 3: don't the president of the African American Mayor's Association just
Speaker 3: here really quick to say hi to us before we
Speaker 3: go to Lauren.
Speaker 7: Uh, I'm not going to direct.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna get the more.
Speaker 7: Sorry, Lauren, We're just that high, said Lauren of the
Speaker 7: coal over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think she wanted to to.
Speaker 7: Oh your for your mic up.
Speaker 9: Always good to be with y'all.
Speaker 7: It's good to have you.
Speaker 3: How you feeling.
Speaker 9: I feel good. I feel good. I expeaked it a
Speaker 9: longe night. That's what we got right.
Speaker 3: Alabama didn't come through provice. Just tell us it was
Speaker 3: on all of us. What happened to Alabama?
Speaker 9: Wait a minute, Alabama, before we got up this window that.
Speaker 7: Way for about the last tree to.
Speaker 6: Honestly, what would it take Because everybody always says, I
Speaker 6: say this all the time. Everybody always says the South
Speaker 6: is red, and I always counter the South is red
Speaker 6: until it ain't. And we have seen Georgia's turn into
Speaker 6: a purple state. What would it take in Alabama?
Speaker 13: You have to have more people move into the state,
Speaker 13: both black, white, and brown coming in through the state.
Speaker 6: That kind of change the narrative reverse migrationeering again, Yeah, you.
Speaker 9: Have to have that. That comes from job growth, that
Speaker 9: comes from people relocating. That helps.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you had and now you can't have Florida, you know,
Speaker 13: I mean, Florida has gone now red in a way
Speaker 13: we wouldn't have expected in a different kind of way.
Speaker 9: So you don't want that. And now we look at
Speaker 9: Ohio places that well.
Speaker 7: It's the capital of white supremacy increasingly, so.
Speaker 8: Our migration has been of folks leaving Ohio who may
Speaker 8: have been law enforcement officers. To go back to one
Speaker 8: of y'all shows that y'all did with Byron where he said,
Speaker 8: we see all the law enforcement coming to Florida because
Speaker 8: they see an embracing No, they saw immunity from prosecution
Speaker 8: for anything that they do in the pursuit.
Speaker 7: Of their job, and now they're protected.
Speaker 1: So really quick where our show is actually technically off air,
Speaker 1: going off air, but we started a few minutes late,
Speaker 1: and we have breakfast club host Lauren l Rossa who
Speaker 1: is ready to go live from the Riser, so we're
Speaker 1: going to her now all right.
Speaker 3: We're cutting to Lauren. Now can we hear her? We
Speaker 3: should be able to.
Speaker 7: Hear her, Lauren, Lauren, where you're at, Lauren?
Speaker 3: Can you hear us?
Speaker 5: Lauren?
Speaker 8: There?
Speaker 3: I can hear them by building over there, Lauren. Wait,
Speaker 3: can you guys hear me?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can hear it. Okay, let me tell you. Okay.
Speaker 1: So, first of all, I heard Charlamagne say that the
Speaker 1: crowd was clearing out that it's not true except.
Speaker 3: They're literally stuck like Blue.
Speaker 1: The way that we were up there, where we were
Speaker 1: like kind of sitting on the edge of our seats, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, was about topping? Was about that, And
Speaker 1: that's what's happening down here. When you hear them yell,
Speaker 1: it's any wind in Blue, especially Kama. Of course, when
Speaker 1: they get quiet, it's not good news. But no one's
Speaker 1: going anywhere. I think one thing that is worth pointing
Speaker 1: out to is even when they bring seeing Inn on
Speaker 1: the screen, everyone's watching the smaller, lower screens. In any
Speaker 1: small wins, like when she won Washington that wasn't on
Speaker 1: the big screen, it was on a lower third, and
Speaker 1: people started yelling. I'm like, why is that very so excited?
Speaker 1: The lower third, like they're literally glued to their I
Speaker 1: would say their seats, but they're standing up, and I
Speaker 1: think that Kamala maybe like I'm starting to see people
Speaker 1: near her stage.
Speaker 3: I don't. Oh yeah, that's right, she's coming here.
Speaker 1: So it's really close down here, y'all. It's the same
Speaker 1: way that we were up there, but it's like a.
Speaker 3: Group think down here.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we love it.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you Lauren for being there for us, and y'all,
Speaker 1: I thank you. I think you know that we are
Speaker 1: officially done with our coverage. Oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 7: Well, thank you guys so much.
Speaker 10: We'll be We gott to do the Breakfast Club in
Speaker 10: the morning, so we gotta we leave in here taking
Speaker 10: a nap and then we're going straight to the station
Speaker 10: to finish this off. So from DC good. So thank
Speaker 10: you guys for having me so much. We've been up
Speaker 10: since four eight. I can all thanks for the really
Speaker 10: appreciated Angelabi called me. I wasn't gonna come out like
Speaker 10: I broadcast the city and she said you better bring
Speaker 10: your act down.
Speaker 3: Down She's like, what you need tell the truth? The
Speaker 3: truth is.
Speaker 1: He actually talked to their team last week and said
Speaker 1: that this is something that they absolutely shouldn't shouldn't miss.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much for the way that you
Speaker 1: guys have engaged in political discourse, opening up this space
Speaker 1: for so many folks who respond to black and brown folks,
Speaker 1: and it's just a joy.
Speaker 10: So thank y'all for thank you so much, such amazing.
Speaker 10: This was like a homecoming a big It was great
Speaker 10: to see. The music was great, and just talking politics
Speaker 10: was was wonderful. Like I said, we've been up since
Speaker 10: four oclock, so I am. There's no drinks there, so
Speaker 10: we just had some water. So I'm about to go
Speaker 10: to sleep taking that. But thank you guys for half me.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, here's Leonard. Leonard.
Speaker 7: We're wrapping up, buddy.
Speaker 3: The word everybody you left when we were.
Speaker 5: Party Pound parting. Words of God is the best author
Speaker 5: and finisher, So your niggas don't lose. Lose, all right, Keep.
Speaker 3: That's the new reprojects, Keep regends.
Speaker 7: Oh say goodbye to the people. Before we signed off, carriage.
Speaker 13: Man, listen, I'll just say this, thanks for all the
Speaker 13: work y'all have been doing this entire season. Appreciate what
Speaker 13: you guys doing the Breakfast Club, big fan, and for everybody,
Speaker 13: it's gonna be a long night.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be the next couple of days.
Speaker 3: Days.
Speaker 9: It's not over that that's my clothing. Tomorrow mayor is
Speaker 9: not over.
Speaker 7: It's not over.
Speaker 9: Don't know.
Speaker 3: You did not say Native Lampid. You said just said
Speaker 3: the breakfast Club. It's breakfast Club and Native Lampid. We
Speaker 3: will run the tate back to take back on me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, but not tonight.
Speaker 8: I thought we're getting ready to receive I think uh
Speaker 8: yet possibly President.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay all right, Katie. There are zero days
Speaker 3: until election day here.
Speaker 1: Yeah he actually technically today after election day on the
Speaker 1: East coast, but on the West coast, some uh states
Speaker 1: are still being called. We're mostly waiting on the battle.
Speaker 1: So y'all stay tuned and will be LAXU. Welcome home, y'all.
Speaker 3: I'm home, y'all. Thanks for rollan Club. Shout out to
Speaker 3: our whole production team. Shout up guys, part Hellen.
Speaker 5: Oh this season yet, shout out one time.
Speaker 3: Harder Dylan, everybody knights.
Speaker 1: So much, Lolo, all the drugs from PDPs, Yes, God
Speaker 1: bless you, your family out, thank.
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Speaker 5: So grateful it took the OA to execute roads.
Speaker 11: Thank you for serve, defend and protect the truth, even
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Speaker 5: To all of the natives, We thank you.
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