1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number one sixty seven 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: and today the show it is story time, as I'm 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: sharing all the details of my absolutely mind blowing, unbelievable 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: lasking cabal hunting experience and an update on my steal 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: in progress Montana public Land White to hunt. All right, 9 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you 10 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: by sit gear, and today it's just Dan and I 11 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: and I have got some stories to tell. But but Dan, 12 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: before all that, well, what's what's new with you? Mark? 13 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: Let's just cut the bullshit right now. Okay, nobody cares 14 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: about what's going on with me, especially when you're posting 15 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 1: pictures behind a giant cariboo and your social media feed 16 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: is saying, oh cool man, Look I'm in Montana in 17 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: a white you know, hunting white tail. When the coolest 18 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: thing I've done in the past two weeks is okay, 19 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: I checked one trail camera. My family got a new house. 20 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: My wife gets mad because my son has a running 21 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: nose and he wipes his boogers on it. My wife's 22 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: pregnant and she's about to pop. That's my life right there. 23 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Thirty seconds. Really. Well, so you got a new house, 24 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: that's news. No, a new couch, couch, couch couch. Remember 25 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: that couch story, the browning points of the couch story. Yep, 26 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: that was the birthday present. So and my son, he's 27 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: in this mode. This is disgusting. And I'm sure all 28 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: boys at some point did it, but he is in 29 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: full blown pick your nose and eat it mode. Yeah. Yeah, 30 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm slapping his hand away. I'm saying no, that's disgusting. 31 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: And he looks at me like I'm not even there, 32 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: just with these hollow eyes, and he picks his nose 33 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: and puts it in his mouth, and I'm just like, buddy, 34 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: that is disgusting. That is disgusting. Mac. He's gonna be 35 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: a troublemaker, Oh buddy, he already is he He just 36 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: doesn't give it. He doesn't care. He doesn't care, which 37 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: is kind of cool. I I see him as growing 38 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: up being the kid that never gets pure pressured into 39 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: doing anything because he doesn't care what other people are doing. 40 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: He just he's that kid who just hey, man, I 41 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: don't care if you think picking boogers is eating him 42 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: his gross I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna be happy 43 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: doing he I don't care, man, I don't care. Look 44 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: good for him, good for him, good for him. So 45 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: I'm thinking today we flipped the script a little bit 46 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: and this is the Wired to Hunt podcast. But I'm 47 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: gonna ask you a lot of questions about your trip, 48 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: your trips, you know, the caribou hunt with Ronella, the 49 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: Montana um, you know, the Montana adventures that you got 50 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: going on, and just kind of shoot from the hip 51 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: like we always do. Yeah. I think that's a good 52 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: plan because there's there's lots to share over what I've 53 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: been doing over the past few weeks and what's going 54 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: on this week too. So yeah, so I could either 55 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: just like, I mean, do you want to hear about 56 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: my Alaska trip? No, nobody wants to hear about that. 57 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Shut up here. This is that's just but before we 58 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: get into the Alaska trip, right, you what were you 59 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: doing before that? I mean, because you went antelope hunting, right, 60 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit and you never tagged 61 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: out right, No, it didn't tag out because I only 62 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: had one day to hunt um because you know, I 63 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: was there with my wife and I just had a 64 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on. I was trying to prepet 65 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: as much work done as I could before heading off 66 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: for these trips and um, and then I also was 67 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: going on a packcrafting trip um that I that I 68 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: was doing for this other project I'm working on. So 69 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: that did I tell you about how that went? No? 70 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: You did not, And I think that's gonna be a 71 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: great place to start. Yeah. So that was. Man, it 72 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: has been a pretty epic couple of weeks because that 73 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: was one of the very coolest trips I've ever done. Um. So, 74 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: me and my buddy Andy Bradley, we went and did 75 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: a pack crafting slash fishing, slash backpacking trip in the 76 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Bob Marshall Wilderness up in northern Montana, and the Bob 77 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: is one of the largest you know, wilderness with the 78 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: capital w areas in the lower forty States. And for 79 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: those who don't know, you know, when I say wilderness, 80 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying just like generically, oh it's wild I'm 81 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: saying like it's a designated by the federal government wilderness areas. 82 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: So that means there's no motorized traffic, no permanent structures. Um, 83 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: it's it's the highest protection that's given to public lands. 84 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: So what that means basically is it's it's super super rugged, 85 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: super wild and uh one of the highest densities of 86 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: grizzly bears in the lower forty eight. So just an 87 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: awesome place. Um. So me and Andy we rented these 88 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: rafts and we threw them and we'll Kylie dropped us 89 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: off at like this reservoir and we rafted paddled our 90 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: way up this reservoir for like four miles. And man, 91 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: right as we started going, it started like pouring rain 92 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: in like twenty or wind, and I'm like, oh god, 93 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: what did we get ourselves into. Um Like, we could 94 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: hardly make any progress because the wind was blown right 95 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: in our face. But we finally we made it a 96 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: few miles down and then like the water levels were 97 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: so low in the reservoir that actually just like we 98 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: just were and out of water. We couldn't find a 99 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: channel that kept going up into the river. So we 100 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: had to take the boats out, pack them all back 101 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: up and then strapped into our backpacks and then we 102 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: hiked another like I don't know another four miles or 103 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: so until we got to a camp. So that head 104 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: a black bear run across right in front of us 105 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: was just kind of cool. And then um, the next 106 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: day we hiked another like six to eight miles something 107 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: like that. And then the final two days we rafted 108 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: this river all the way back to where we started, 109 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: so it's a four day trip, half packing, half rafting. Um. 110 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: And then we fished every day and um, man unbelievable scenery, 111 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: just like beautiful rolling hills and mountains, and then this 112 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: river was just a gorgeous kind of snake of Emerald 113 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: winding us way through this valley and then every once 114 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: in a while he gets these big rocky cliffs and stuff, 115 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: and um, we saw lots of deer, eagles. Um, we 116 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: didn't see any grizz but we did have um a 117 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: good number of tracks around us that we saw. There 118 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: was a big track and mom salon cub track near 119 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: our camp one day, and then um, our last day 120 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: hiking out, we were walked right in like fresh from 121 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: that morning tracks that were heading towards us. So at 122 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: some point he was on the trail and he probably 123 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: heard us coming headed off the trail, and then we 124 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: just passed through. So that was crazy. But man, the 125 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: fishing was the It was the very best fly fishing 126 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: I've had in my entire life, like by leaps and 127 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: bounds um between the two of us. Like the first day, 128 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: the first night, I caught nine and Andy caught like fifteen. 129 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: The next day we both caught like I caught twenty seven, 130 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: he caught thirty. The next day it was like thirty 131 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: three and thirty three. The next day we didn't fish 132 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: very much but still caught some. But I mean it 133 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: was insane, and that was just the fish that we 134 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: landed like that we got to our hand. There's so 135 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: many our fish, fish that we missed or that broke 136 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: off or that we lost at some point, And mean, 137 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: it was just the most fun fly fishing ever. It 138 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: was nuts. So I want to ask you a question 139 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: real quick. This trip, you rafted and then you had 140 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: to deflate the rafts right and and hike with them 141 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: on your back. Yeah, So we had we had the 142 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: rafts on our back, we had paddles, we had the 143 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: inflating device, we had a life jacket, and we had 144 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: all of our regular backpacking stuff too. So we had 145 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: tents and sleeping bags and sleeping pads and food for 146 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: four days and all of our fishing gears so fly rods, rails, flies, 147 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So we had we had some big 148 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: packs on. Yeah. So uh, the next question, well that's 149 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: not really a question. Yes, it is a question. I 150 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: want will you Will you promise to take me on 151 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: that same trip someday? Yeah, dude, if you can make 152 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: it out there, we should definitely do that. It was 153 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: it was. I mean, I've done a lot, I've done 154 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: a ton of backpacking trips, but this was a really 155 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: cool change of pace because, yeah, you're you're did some 156 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: backpacking and hiking, so you feel like you worked for 157 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: but in half the trip you were just floating along 158 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: and like enjoying yourself. And the river was like it 159 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: was at a nice point as far as water levels 160 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: where it's relatively low water, so the rapids that you hit, 161 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: you know, they weren't too bad, so you didn't feel 162 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: like you're gonna die. But there was enough that like 163 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: you had an adrenaline rush and you better to be 164 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: you better like paddle well and get around these rocks 165 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: otherwise you're gonna get flipped. So there was enough excitement. 166 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: But then there are these long stretches where you just 167 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: floated with your feet in the water and just enjoyed it. 168 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: So it's like relaxing adrenaline, relaxing adrenaline, catch a bunch 169 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: of fish. Uh so yeah, and just gorgeous weather. I 170 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: mean it was like eighties in the day, but like 171 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: a dry eighties, so comfortable, really nice and cool at night. 172 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: And um man, it was just amazing, amazing trip. And 173 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: um that's you know, part of this um public land 174 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: related writing project. I'm working on going to share that story. 175 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: And that's so excited about that super cool trip. And 176 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: then and I came back and I had like three 177 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: days to get all my ship around, pack up, unpacked 178 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: from that trip, and then start packing for the new trip. 179 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: And then Kylie and her friend Megan took off and 180 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: they road tripped through Yellowstone and Grand Teetown on their 181 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: way back to Michigan. And then I drove my camper 182 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: into Bozeman and parked in the long term parking lot, 183 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: slept in the long term parking lot in the airport 184 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: on Friday night, and then I left for Alaska. Nice. 185 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: So how long was that float trip in total? Four 186 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: days total? Okay, four days So that's uh, something that 187 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: you would recommend to somebody in the future. Highly highly 188 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: recommend a pack rafting trip like that. And you know, 189 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: I think you gotta you know, be aware of like 190 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: your skill set. And if you've never rafted or paddled 191 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: a kayak or anything and you know, don't have those experiences, 192 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: I would like either go with someone who does, or 193 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: try to learn before doing this, and then make sure 194 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: you check on water flow levels for a river like this, um, 195 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: because this river that we did, if we did it 196 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: at much higher flows, UM, it could be dangerous, especially 197 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: if you didn't really know what you're doing. And I don't. 198 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert by any means of this. I 199 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: paddled decent bit, but I was even a little nervous, 200 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, not knowing exactly how rough these things are 201 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: going to be. But for a lot of rivers, maybe 202 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: all rivers, um, I'm not exactly sharing that, but the 203 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: USGS keeps water flow meters in most of these rivers, 204 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: so you can actually go on Google and look up, 205 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, and just google you know, ex river water 206 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: flow and it will show you what the flow rate 207 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: is and UM that that gives you a good like 208 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: starting point. And then man, there's so much information online 209 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: these days that people kind of you know, give you 210 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: like guides for different rivers and stuff. So I found 211 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: a website that had all sorts of information about different 212 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: rivers you can raft in the Bob Marshall or in 213 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: that general area. And then he had information to saying, Okay, 214 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, at this flow rate, it's like Class five 215 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: rapids like super dicey at this flow rate, could be 216 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: like Class two to three and be pretty decent. At 217 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: this flow rate, it's too low. Um, So just look 218 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: up that kind of stuff. Um. But there's there's a 219 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: lot of rivers like this you can do in the Bob. 220 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: In that general are there's the Bomb Mark. It's called 221 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: the Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex, and that includes the Bob 222 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: Marshall Wilderness, the Scapegoat Wilderness, and the No Crap. I 223 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: think it's the Great Bear Wilderness or something like that. 224 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm probably wrong, but there's three wilderness areas all tucked 225 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: in just south of Glacier National Park, and that forms 226 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: this Northern Rockies ecosystem. Um. And it's just just an 227 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: unbelievable section in Montana. So highly recommend you know what's 228 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: cool about it is I mean, Glaciers is epic, epic mountains, 229 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: but once you go south of that into these wilderness areas, 230 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: you don't have nearly the crowds, So you can see 231 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: some similar things to Glacier, but not deal with you know, 232 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: thousands of people. So right, I mean that sounds fun alright, 233 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: So real quick, before we go any further, I want 234 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: to pause real quick to thank our partners at Sicker Gear, 235 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: And rather than share a typical sikest story from someone else, 236 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: I thought I'd share a bit about my own experiences 237 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: on this Alaska trip were talking about, because really, you know, 238 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: this whole podcast is a sick of story. And for 239 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: this hunt, I needed a bunch of new gear that 240 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: was gonna be appropriate for the location and the type 241 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: of things that we're going to be doing. So here's 242 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: the system that I ended up using and that worked 243 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: very very well for me. On the bottom for this hunt, 244 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: I was wearing the Sick Timberline pants. These are just 245 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: like a super rugged soft shell type pant It's like 246 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: they're they're proto typical sheep hunters pant um. But it 247 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: worked great for this too, and it's got this heavy 248 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: duty reinforced backside and heavy duty kneepads actually in the 249 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: front that I ended up really really liking. So so 250 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: this pant is really built for the kind of hunt 251 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: I was on where you're crawling or kneeling or sitting 252 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: down and glassing a lot. So I love those pants 253 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: and even you know, even when I was down in 254 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: the thirties or ripping windy, which it was a lot, 255 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: and this is all I ever needed to wear my 256 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: lower half, nothing else. Now on the top, I wore 257 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: a Core lightweight based layer, a Core midweight quarter zip layer, 258 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: and then my fanatic hoodie, and then when I got 259 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: really cold or windy, I topped it all off with 260 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: the Kelvin Light hoodie and that's like a ultra light, 261 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: packable puffy type jacket and everything there in that list 262 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: it performed great, and it gave me the flexibility that 263 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: I needed to shed or add layers based on the 264 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: conditions or activities, so I was able to be comfortable 265 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: out there no matter if it was super hot or 266 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: super cold. And then finally I had the storm front 267 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: jacket and pants for my rain gear, and we did 268 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: get some pretty serious rain on two of the days 269 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: I was out there, and this gear worked flawlessly I 270 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: got I got another number of compliments on it actually, 271 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: and the pants and jacket I found were just really 272 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: smartly designed, with pockets and adjustment points exactly where you'd 273 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: want them. I couldn't have been happier with it. And 274 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: no point did I get wet or wa are seeping 275 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: in anywhere. So that's that's why I hear. So there 276 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: you have it. That's my Alaskan Caribou hunt sist system, 277 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: and stick around here for more of my sikest story. 278 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: As you know, as you might expect, this hunting experience 279 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: is really once in the lifetime and I'm just really 280 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: glad that my clothing enabled me to be out there 281 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: and to be effective and to be comfortable. So if 282 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: you'd like to make a SICKS story of your own someday, 283 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: you can learn more at sick of gear dot com. 284 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: Now transitioning to your Alaska trip, did you before we 285 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: even talk about the travel to get there? I know 286 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: that you were pumped and jacked to start. You know 287 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: that you even got the opportunity to do this, So 288 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: before you left, did you have any expectations of what 289 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: this trip? This big Alaska trip was going to be 290 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: like you know a little bit um. You know, I 291 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: knew when when I got the invite. I talked to 292 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: the guys about it, and they you know, shared some information, 293 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: and they said that they had they had heard really 294 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: good things about the area we were going into. Um 295 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: and we're flying with a with a transporter. So basically 296 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: there's there's lots of different kind of bush plane type 297 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: operations up in Alaska where they transport hunters and all 298 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: sorts of people way back there under the wilderness. And um, 299 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: the transporter we were we were going with was very reputable. 300 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: They're well known to you know, you know, they'll they'll 301 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: get your in the right places and everything like that. 302 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: So it sounded like the plan was to go into 303 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: an area that should be really good. Um And there's 304 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: a migration of Cariboo that comes through here this time 305 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: of year that's fifty cariboo strong. Is this populations the 306 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: forty mile herd and um, it's somewhere around fifty cariboo. 307 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: They all kind of they bunch up more and more 308 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: and more as they get into September and October. So 309 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: I knew, based on all those things, a good chance 310 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: of seeing a lot of animals. UM. And then I 311 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: also knew that it was going to be like beautiful country. UM. 312 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: They had done a hunt up in this general area 313 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: last year for moose UM, somewhere within miles maybe of 314 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: where we're at, give or take UM, so they you know, 315 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: I heard a little bit about the general terrain and stuff, 316 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: but that's basically all it new. UM. And so it 317 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: was gonna be myself hunting. UH. Ronnello was hunting, and 318 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: then Steve's friend Doug during Um, who's a guy from Wisconsin, 319 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: a white to hunter from Wisconsin who's done a lot 320 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: of stuff with Steve, and Steve's hunted on Doug's property 321 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: lot in Wisconsin. So this is kind of like a 322 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: way of saying thank you to Doug, I think, inviting 323 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: him on this trip. So it was gonna be the 324 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: three of us hunting. And then there was four other 325 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: people that were on the production side of things, so 326 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: the crew, So there was two full time cameramen and 327 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: then the producer, and then a wilderness production assistant is 328 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: what they call this other guy, Brody UM and both 329 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: of the Janice and Brodie both had some cameras too 330 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: for different things, but um but yeah, So so I 331 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: knew I was going in there were seven guys that 332 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: was gonna be really different, and I knew it was 333 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: gonna be beautiful, and I knew we would probably see 334 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: a lot of caribou, and that was basically all I knew. 335 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: And those were my expectations going in were just like, 336 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: I'm going to Alaska and it's gonna be like an 337 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: amazing experience. Whether I killed anything or not. Like I 338 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: wasn't really concerned about that at all. Like I could 339 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: have gone and not shot anything and I would have 340 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: still been super stoked. Um right, I just wanted to 341 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: see Alaska my whole life, you know, dreamed about it 342 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: and just like oh gosh, for years and years and 343 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: years thought about trying to get up there. Um so 344 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: that was that was where my head was that going in. Alright. 345 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: So then you're you're sleeping in this parking lot and 346 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: you're it's the eve before you're you're getting ready to 347 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: take off on this epic adventure, right, something that you're 348 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: going to tell your children about, right, something that you 349 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: will never forget the first time you ever went to 350 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: Alaska on this kick ass caribou hunt with some you know, 351 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: some people that everybody knows, especially if you're a hunter. 352 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: Did you have like opening day sleep, like you couldn't 353 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: sleep like opening day, like the first day you're gonna 354 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: go white tail hunting? Or was this on a different level, 355 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: you know it was it was a little weird. Um, 356 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember exactly what my sleep situation was. 357 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: It was like that that day. That day was like 358 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: a crazy day because like I had to pack up 359 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: every all, Like Kylie left that morning, and so like 360 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: it was like saying goodbye to her and getting off 361 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: her stuff ready to go, and I wasn't I wasn't 362 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: gonna see Kylie for three weeks. So it's kind of 363 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: sad saying goodbye to her. Um. And then like it 364 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: was like this really strong sense of like loneliness all 365 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: day because you know, for all this time, I've been 366 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: with Kylie the whole time and our dogs and doing 367 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and I don't know, like you're you're 368 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: together all the time for like, you know, almost two months. 369 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: Like it's not like she goes to work and I 370 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: go to work and then we see each other at night. 371 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: It's like we're with each other the entire day in 372 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: this little camper. So then when it went from like 373 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: all that interaction to like complete silence and nothing around 374 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: and I was in the camper by myself, I was like, whoa, 375 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: it just felt weird. So then that that whole day 376 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: just said it was kind of weird. UM. But I 377 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: was like busily trying to get stuff around, and then 378 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: I had to drive the camper, and I've been trying 379 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: to find somewhere to keep the camper like a campsite. UM. 380 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: I was hopeful. I was hoping to find a National 381 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: Forest pull off where I could park the camper, leave 382 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: it and not to pay um, and then come back 383 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: and pick it up. But I couldn't find anywhere that 384 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: I could get the camper up to that UM was 385 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: reasonably close. So I ended up finding out that I 386 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: could park the camper at the airport. And yeah, that night, 387 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: I just I think I was just so busy getting 388 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: stuff around. I didn't even really have like jitters at 389 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: all or like nerves about the trip. It was just 390 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: like I get this done, gotta get this done, gotta 391 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: get this done. And by the time I had everything done, 392 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: it was super late anyway, so I just crashed and 393 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: then I think I was up at like five am 394 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: two to get in the airport and catch a flight. Right, 395 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: all right, So how long did the trip take from 396 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: the time you took off in Bozeman to the time 397 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: you actually got to Alaska? So our flight left like 398 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: seven in the morning or something like that from Bozeman, 399 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: and then we flew from Bozeman to Seattle, and then 400 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: we had a long layover in Seattle, um, like two 401 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: or three hours, and we met up with a couple 402 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: of the guys. So there was a group of like 403 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: five of us now that were there, and we said 404 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: like a big breakfast and talked about stuff. And then 405 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: from Seattle we flew to Fairbanks, Alaska, and I think 406 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: we got into Fairbanks around like three o'clock their time. Um, 407 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: so I don't know. It was a pretty long day. 408 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: And then we got Fairbanks, got all of our gear, 409 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: and man, when you travel with these guys, it is 410 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: an unreal amount of gear that they take. I think 411 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: we had like twenty I don't I don't know how 412 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: many total bags we have, but I do know that 413 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: when we left Bozeman, just for me, janice and dirt, 414 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: there was eighteen bags that we checked there and like 415 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: huge duffels or big Pelican cases full of camera equipment 416 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: or podcast equipment or all sorts of stuff. So there 417 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: was probably thirty bags that we picked up at lug 418 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: in the Fairbanks. We rented a rent a van in 419 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: a car, and then we drove from Fairbanks to another 420 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: town which is where our transporter was. And uh we 421 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: we got in late lat night and got dinner and 422 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: then um, I just passed out and uh I was 423 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: ready for the early flight in the morning. Right, Okay, 424 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: So I mean flying into Alaska itself had to be 425 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: pretty kick ass, right, I mean, how how far is 426 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: that flight from Seattle to Alaska Fairbanks? Yeah? So from 427 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: Seattle Fairbanks I think was like three and a half 428 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: hours or something like that. And unfortunately I didn't have 429 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: a window seat. I wish I did though, because I 430 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: was I was at an aisle seat, so I had 431 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: to look past two people through the window and I 432 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: was like over over the wing. But even with all that, 433 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: you could still see some just unbelievable mountains, just you know, 434 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: completely snow covered, massive peaks, all these glaciers that you're 435 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: flying like the whole trip, but especially when you're on 436 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: the plane. I just felt like I was living like 437 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: a Discovery Channel special. It's just like I just like this, 438 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: this isn't I kept of telling myself, this isn't a 439 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: movie mark, this is life. Like this is actually real life. 440 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Um but yeah, like I'm flying over glaciers like massive 441 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: tongues of ice coming off these mountain sides. Um just 442 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: just awesome. And um so that was. That was sweet. 443 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: And then we touched down in Alaska and I was like, 444 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: holy crap, I'm actually in Alaska, like we landed there 445 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, hey, guys, I just checked a 446 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: major item off my life bucket list. So I'm just 447 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: gonna turn around and go home. Now made to Alaska. 448 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: Um So, then the trans then it's time to take 449 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: off from the transporter plane, right that that following morning 450 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: and head into the bush right yeah, And that was 451 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: that was really cool. Um So I was some of 452 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: the guys were being shuttled from the trans from town 453 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: to a wilderness airstrip on a bigger plane, like a 454 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: four person plane, and then then they would take a 455 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: smaller plane from that airstrip to our camp. But the 456 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: two heaviest people, I was one of the two heaviest people. Um. 457 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: We got to fly straight from town all the way 458 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: to our camp area. UM in the little super cub 459 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: and super Cub is this really small plane. It's like 460 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: kind of ridiculous. UM seeing it for the first time, 461 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: there's just the pilot in front and then you and 462 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: it's like basically the pilots like sitting in my lap, 463 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: like my legs are on either side of him, and 464 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: it's just like glass all around me and one single 465 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: propeller and it looks like you could just like tip 466 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: this thing over with your leg if you kicked it. UM. 467 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: But man, that was so so cool. We we got it, 468 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: started flying, and very quickly you passed town and then 469 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: it's just nothing so versus all this is like muskeg 470 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: like swampy, tung jury marshy stuff that we're flying over. 471 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: And like the colors are like these reds and yellows 472 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: of these different willows and grasses and stuff. We're flying 473 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: over all this stuff, and then you start coming into 474 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: these hills and then eventually these big mountains. UM, and 475 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, there's there's all sorts of spruce trees 476 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: and aspens. They're starting to change colors and then these 477 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: massive above tree line mountaintops, just Barren Rock, um in Stone, 478 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you've ever seen pictures of 479 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: um the Presidential Range in New Hampshire, like the White 480 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: Mountains up there Mount Washington for anyone familiar with that area. 481 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: This looked very much like that, like those types of mountains, 482 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: but like just imagine on a much much bigger scale. 483 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, we're flying over these in this little 484 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: super cubing. We're flying like fifty ft or a hundred 485 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: feet off the ground. They just buzzing around these ridge 486 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: tops and curling around stuff, and you can just see everything. 487 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a super super cool flight. 488 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: And that again was just like there's no way I 489 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: can describe it in words to like convey just like 490 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: I just on this flight in the entire time, I 491 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: was just in awe of the scale of everything, like 492 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 1: the distance I could see, and these massive mountains off 493 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: from the distance, and these other mountains that I'm right 494 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: on top of, and you know, these beautiful rivers winding everywhere, 495 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: and and and not a single sign of human intrusion 496 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: or presence anywhere. I mean, it was just hundreds hundreds 497 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: of miles of open space, and I'm thinking, as we're 498 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: flying over here, like how many bears out here are 499 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: out here? Moose or caribou or whatever might be there 500 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: so much wildlife all around here. So the flight in 501 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: was super cool. Um. What was interesting though, is I 502 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: assumed like they would be dropping us off I don't know, 503 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: like a gravel bar or a runway that they've made 504 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: somewhere out in the world. It's just something. But that's 505 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: not the case. They land you on top of a mountain, 506 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: like a little ridge coming off of a mountain side 507 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: like it's like a fifty there's like maybe fifty words 508 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: of space, and they just stop on a dime like that. 509 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: They's they're flying down and then just like boom, they're 510 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: right there on the ground. Um, but that's the case 511 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: when the wind's good. I was the first plan to 512 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: come in there, and we had like really windy conditions 513 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: and it wasn't good. So we go flying in and 514 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: he's like, all right, that's what we're gonna be landing, Like, 515 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: holy crap, that's we're gonna land And he circles in 516 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: and comes down and then he comes in and then 517 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: the last second he pulls up and like cranks up 518 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: and pulls up, and then he looks back and he goes, 519 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: you don't get airsick, do you? And I'm like, I 520 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: don't know yet. He's like, because this is gonna be interesting. 521 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: So he ended up having to do that like four 522 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 1: or five times. He makes these really tight turns were 523 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: completely on our side, spins around, and then comes flying 524 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: in and then tries to touch down in this fifty 525 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: mile or fifty ft like circle on the ridge and 526 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: can't do it, pulls up, does it over and over again. 527 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: And meanwhile, while this is happening, there's he's scattering caribou 528 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: off the mountain, like there's cariboo everywhere, right, We're gonna land. Um. 529 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: So finally I feel like five times he's able to 530 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: get down, and it was like, wow, that was something 531 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: and um, and then you know, for the rest of 532 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: the another four or five hours or so, it was 533 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: just basically them shuttling in the other guys and all 534 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: of our equipment and um, you know, then it was 535 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: setting up camp. And meanwhile, while this is all happening, 536 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: we're seeing caribou coming over the hillside on the mountaintop 537 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: or skirting around us on the ridge. I mean there's 538 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: just cariboo everywhere, and um, we set up camp and 539 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: uh got ready and we're gonna go do a little 540 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: scouting once we all got settled. So any question before 541 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: move on? Yes, Yes, at this point, dude, like you're 542 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: telling me you're living something that I've been dreaming about 543 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: personally as well. Has reality at this point set in 544 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: for you at all? Or are you just kind of 545 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with everything that's happening. Are you saying that right 546 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: now today or at that point? I mean, like at 547 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: that point, at that point, I mean, dude, you're living 548 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: a national geographic type television show at this point. You know, 549 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: it's like, well, ship, we can't land. While we're just 550 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: gonna skip off this mountain. Five times you had some 551 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: of the most beautiful scenery in the entire world outside 552 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: and for me, I like every time. Do you remember 553 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: when we were coming back from that Elk hunt. Yeah, 554 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: and I was yeah that and just I was out 555 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: the window like a dog looking and remember and we 556 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: were driving even through Wyoming and I was just like, 557 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, look there's Natalope, Like, oh my god, 558 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: look look look over there, Mark Martin. It was like, buddy, 559 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: I've been on this road like a hundred times, right, 560 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: so but for you, this is this is virgin ground. 561 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: You've never done anything like this. I mean, what was 562 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: going through your head at this point? Like I would 563 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: be shaking, yeah, I mean it was definitely like kind 564 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: of like you were on that wyoming drive. I was 565 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: just like there was so much going on that like 566 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: at times that you get caught up in like the action. 567 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: But I made a point like as much as I 568 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: could throughout the toll trip to just like try to 569 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: like remind myself, like this is such a special thing, 570 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: take it in. So I tried to find moments to 571 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: like sit off by myself and just like just look 572 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: around in silence or like just try to process it. 573 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: But I probably didn't even get to do do that as 574 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: much as I wanted to, because like, there was just 575 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: stuff going on. And the one thing, you know, probably 576 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: my biggest anxiety going into this trip. It wasn't like, oh, 577 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: am I going to get in a plane crash like 578 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: these things that can be dangerous. No, it wasn't that. 579 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't like worrying about grizzly bears. It wasn't, am 580 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: I going to kill Caribou. Like my biggest anxiety was 581 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: probably it was more so like that the people stuff, like, 582 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, and am I going to be a good 583 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: fit with this group? Are they gonna like me? Uh? 584 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: You know, I want to make sure I can you know, 585 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: pull my own weight and you know, do all the 586 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: stuff that I need to do. Um. I don't want 587 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: them to feel like I don't know what I'm doing 588 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: or anything like that. So it's like that people stuff. Um. 589 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: So because of that, like I was kind instantly and 590 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: I would I would do this anyways, but I was 591 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: especially trying to make sure I did a really great 592 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: job of like always be helping, always doing something. Like 593 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be that guy that was like 594 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: lazy and like sitting off by himself playing around. So 595 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: it was like whenever other people were doing stuff, I 596 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: was constantly trying to find a way that I could 597 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: help out. So because of that, I was I maybe 598 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: didn't get as much time just like sit and like 599 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: take stuff in because I was like can I help 600 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: you move this back? Can I help you cook this thing? 601 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: Can I help do this thing? Um? So I was 602 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: like running around like like a chicken with his head 603 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: cut off. Just trying to make sure I was, you know, 604 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: doing my part um, but still still I mean there 605 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: was still plenty of times to soak it all in. 606 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was just unreal. And we you know, 607 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: once we got everything set up, we're gonna go out 608 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: and do some scouting because that first day when you 609 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: fly in, you can't hunt on the day you fly in. 610 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: So we finally got our stuff around and you know, 611 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: now I'm learning a little about the TV side of 612 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: things too. So they got me all miked up and 613 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: they kind of talked through some of the things they 614 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: like to do and how they like to do this stuff, 615 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: and um, we start hiking up the mountain and we 616 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: were basicallynn hike up to a high point and sit 617 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: up there in glass and just trying to get a 618 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: get an idea of where these cariban are coming through 619 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: and where we might want to go back to the 620 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: next morning. And um, I found like it first when 621 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: you've got like, you know, there's me and Steve and 622 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: Doug up front, and then there's these other two guys 623 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: behind you walking along, and then there's two cameras they're 624 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: like running ahead of you or walking circles around you, 625 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: or like standing right next to you with the camera 626 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: in your face, and a couple of times I almost 627 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: like started to laugh. It just felt so absurd, so 628 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: I had to catch myself, like I got like a 629 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: half smirk on my face, like keep it together, Kenyan, Yeah, 630 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: act like you've been there before. But but yeah, the 631 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: scouting was good. We saw a lout of caribou and um, 632 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, just got to have some good conversations with 633 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: the guys. And then on our way back to camp 634 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: that evening, Jana spotted the grizzly bear just underneath our camp, 635 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: just off the ridge. So we all go walking down 636 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: a ridge a little bit closer and we're watching him 637 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: with our buyos and stuff. Just one of the most 638 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: beautiful grizzly bears I've ever seen. Um. He was like 639 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: pure gold like sheny blonde gold like beautiful coat. Um, 640 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: and he was just feeding on blueberries and stuff. There's 641 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: berries all over the place, and um, he's feeding on 642 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: these blueberries. And he starts angling his way up the ridge, 643 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: getting closer and closer and closer, and we're all geeking 644 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: out on loving watching him. But he gets to maybe 645 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: like a hundred yards ninety yards and Steve was like, 646 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, we probably ought to get this guy out 647 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: of here, especially because of how close we were to 648 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: camp Um. So he starts yelling, making some noise, and 649 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: the bear looks up finally notices up there, but instead 650 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: of like spooking off, he's just curious, so he just 651 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: starts running towards us. Yeah. So then Steve was like 652 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: picking up rocks and throwing rocks towards it and yelling, 653 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: and finally he got to maybe I don't know, sixty 654 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: five or seventy yards or somewhere around that ballpark. And 655 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: then finally he does like, all right, real as, I 656 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: don't want to mess with these guys, and he turns 657 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: and runs off. But it was just a really cool, 658 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: you know, encounter, And like now I'm like, all right, 659 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: I've got like my lasket, Like this is everything I wanted. 660 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: I've seen tons of cariboo, I had my grizzle bear encounter. 661 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm camped out on top of this wind swept rocky 662 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: ridge and I can see like hundreds of miles maybe 663 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: in every direction. That's all I need. I'm good, right, right, So, 664 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: then while you were on this little scouting mission, did 665 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: you guys, locate some cariboo and were you putting a 666 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: plan together on how to attack it that next day. Yeah. So, 667 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: so here's the thing with these caribo was like they're 668 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: they're constantly moving, and it was just like there's always cariboo. 669 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: So we kind of identified like a general path, like 670 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: a travel path, like basically where we were situated, there 671 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: was a almost like a pass in the chain of 672 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: mountains and some ridges that kind of kind of like 673 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: deer are funneled through topography by saddles in a mountain 674 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: or something like their saddles on a ridge. There was 675 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: a series of saddles and ridges that were funneling this 676 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: migration of caribou passed our ridge. Um, so we located 677 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: this general area where there's just constantly caribou trickling through, 678 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: and um, you know, we knew that these these caribou 679 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: are there one day, they're gone the next so there's 680 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna be different cariboo. But assuming that the migration continued, 681 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: assuming that we weren't at the end of the migration, 682 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: we knew that they should be back there the next day. 683 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: So we we found this general area and then the 684 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: plan was the next day to just go back up 685 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: to this little glassing knob and watch again. But that 686 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: was that wass as firm as a game plans we had, 687 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: But it's kind of all you needed. Um. I mean, 688 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: this is the most absurd hunting I've ever had in 689 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: my life. Like it's unlike anything else, unlike elk hunting, 690 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: unlike deer hunting, like by it ten times in that 691 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: there's just there's constantly animals. You're constantly watching animals, and um, 692 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't a question, to be honest, very quickly we 693 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: realized as soon as soon as we realized like okay, 694 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: yes we're in the middle of the migration. It's not 695 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: like the end of it, Like we're in it. It 696 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: wasn't a question of if we're going to shoot cariboo. 697 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: It was just which one you wanted to shoot because 698 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: there were so many. But I will say what we 699 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: found is that you know, when I when I went 700 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: into this, when um Janice was like telling me, yeah, 701 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: you know, there's we're gonna be hopefully intercepting the migration. Um. 702 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: And when I started thinking about caribou migration, I was 703 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: thinking of like Discovery Channel stuff where you see like 704 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: these massive ambas of like twenty thousand or thirty thousand 705 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: animals all together like pouring across an area. It's not 706 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: it wasn't like that. Um. It was like here's a 707 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: group of five, here's a group of twenty, here's a 708 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: group of fifty, here's a group of fifteen, and they're 709 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: all kind of strung out. Or you could like sit 710 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: on the mountainside and you could look on one ridge 711 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: and you see a group of twenty, group of fifty, 712 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: group of ten there. But like any different direction you looked, 713 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: you'd see a group of cariboo there and they're constantly 714 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: moving through or the bed for a little bit, or 715 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: they mail around feeding for a little bit. But it 716 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: wasn't like this giant wave them. It was just this 717 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: never ending kind of trickle and flow of different size 718 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: groups coming through. Um. So that was what we started 719 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: to see on day one, and we continued to see 720 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: that the rest of the way. Okay, so so it's 721 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: just one of those things where you guys just kind 722 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: of you you found out where they were, and then 723 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: you drop off the mountain to go intercept the basic 724 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: line of the path of the migration. Then yeah, and 725 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: there and there were you know, there it wasn't like 726 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: one single line, Like there's lots of different little directions 727 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: and stuff that different groups of them would go. But yeah, 728 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean when it came down to a day's you know, 729 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: the three days that we were actually hunting, that basically 730 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: end up being what we did. We had this general 731 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 1: glassing section that we would go to and we would 732 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: explore different areas, but many times we ended up back 733 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: there and you could just watch over this large area 734 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: and you just sit in the hillside with spotting scopes 735 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: and binoculars and you just pick out different groups and 736 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: eyeball that group. You find different group, eyeball that group, 737 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: find different group, eyeball that group, and um, because there's 738 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: so many animals, you know, Steve was, we should be 739 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: pretty picky about what we're gonna shoot. I mean, there's 740 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: no reason to go off and shoot the first thing, 741 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: you see. So he kind of described the main things 742 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: that you're looking for in a good and mature bowl 743 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: and with a big you know, a big mature caribou 744 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: bowl is going to have so they kind of differentiate. 745 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: On a caribou. There's like these times and there's the 746 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: there's the tops, and there's the fronts. Um. So the fronts, 747 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: like those things that obviously come out from the front, 748 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: like these different little arms and hands of aniler that 749 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: comes out right above the kind of like a brow 750 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: time type thing. And um. And then there's the tops, 751 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: which are like you know, the tall main being that 752 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: goes up and then you've got those top times up there. 753 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: So good bowl would have like long tops and maybe 754 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: palmated tops. He'd have backscratcher points, which are these little 755 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: kind of flyers that come off the back of that 756 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: big main beam. And he'd have you know, big sweeping 757 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: fronts with good times, and maybe a shovel or two 758 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: which are these like kind of palmated I don't even 759 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: know how to describe it. But and the picture of 760 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: my bowl you can see one I've I've got a 761 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: single shovel on mine. You can see this flat kind 762 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: of palmated vertical sun of antlers that comes like straight 763 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: off his forehead. So we're looking for that. And then 764 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: also you're looking at, you know, in relative to all 765 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 1: the other caribou, So you need to establish a context 766 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: because they all look big. Um, So you kind need 767 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: to look at a bunch of them and then compare 768 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: this one to that one, this one to that one. Um, 769 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: so very quickly I realized like, we're going to be 770 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: pretty picky. And uh so day one, you know, we 771 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: we get up and we make some you know, cornolla 772 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: oatmeal in the morning and coffee, get around and then 773 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: we head back up the mountain and we're sitting there 774 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: and we're seeing all these cariboo again and we're glassing 775 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: and figuring stuff out, and finally we spott a cariboo 776 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: that that you know, looked good and Steve was like, yeah, 777 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: that's that's a good one. So he grabbed Doug and Doug, 778 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: let's let's go after this one. So they go taken 779 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: off after that one, and they took the two camera 780 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: and then myself, Brody and Jana stayed up on the 781 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: mountains side so that we didn't have seven people trying 782 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: to chase his cariboo, and we watched and glassed from above, 783 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: and they made a move on this group of cariboo. 784 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: But these guys, these balls were moving so fast across 785 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: the terrain that Steve and the crew they kind of 786 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: angled where we saw them. But within moments of like 787 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: them starting hike after him, these caribo were past that point, 788 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: we're moving way far to the left, so we watched 789 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: from above and watched them missed the cariboo by a mile, 790 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: and they're gone, and then they continued stalking in, thinking 791 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: they're getting on them, and then they finally realized that 792 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: they weren't. But another group of cariboo had moved in 793 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 1: and really another nice new ball came through and Doug 794 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 1: ended up not shooting that one, but we thought maybe 795 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: he would. But basically that whole morning was was watching 796 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: that happen, and um, they didn't end up shooting anything, 797 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: but super cool just watching it all happened. And meanwhile 798 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 1: I was just sitting up on the mountain watching other 799 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 1: animals and just kind of soaking it in and taking 800 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: pictures and stuff. And eventually they come back up and 801 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: we talked about what happened, etcetera, etcetera, and we're bs 802 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: and and stuff. And while we're kind of getting shied 803 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: around again, I'm glassing and I spot a new group 804 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: of bowls that popped out over another hill across the ridge, 805 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh man, there's some really good ones 806 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: up there. And after everybody looked like, yep, there's definitely 807 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: there's a really good one and so he's like your 808 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: turn mark. And at this point it was like a 809 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: roller coaster, um is the only way I could describe it. 810 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: And I was kind of hoping that I wouldn't shoot 811 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: one early, like I was thinking hoping I could shoot 812 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: a caribou on the last day, you know. So he 813 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: worked really hard and like had that whole experience and 814 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: then it finally happens. Um. And also again to like 815 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: my my only anxieties again were like related to like 816 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: the people related stuff. I just didn't know what the 817 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 1: process was going to be, like you know with the show. 818 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: So did they determine who got first shot or was 819 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: it just kind of a shoot from the hip thing? 820 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: So I think Steve, I think Steve was just gonna 821 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: bounce back and forth between me and Doug on stocks 822 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: and then once we got a chance, then he would 823 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: then he would shoot one. UM. So Doug got his 824 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: first stock that didn't go. So then you know my name, 825 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: we got called for the second stock. UM. But I 826 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: don't know if I was mentally ready because I told Doug, 827 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey Doug, I want, I want, I want 828 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: you should have the first you should have the first shot. 829 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: You know you were invited on this trip. First, I 830 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: was a late edition. You've been thinking about this for 831 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: a year. Um, I want to make sure you get one. 832 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: So I thought, you know, I want him to shoot one. 833 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: And then also like I kind of wanted to let 834 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: someone else go through the whole thing and I could observe, 835 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: like you know, because it's not like hunting on your own. 836 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: You know, you when you're hunting on your own, you 837 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: make all the decisions. You do it your way. Um, 838 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: you got the deer year way, you process the deer 839 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: yr way, and there's no one, like, you know, no 840 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: one else to worry about. In this situation, it was 841 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: like you know, I was It was like I was 842 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: living in someone else's house. Do you know how that is? 843 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: Like if you go visit someone else's house and you're 844 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: they're staying at their place, like you're following their rules. 845 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: You gotta put stuff in the place they want to 846 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: put stuff, Like you're not going to sit on their 847 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: couch in the underwear, right, And like I get I 848 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: have like anxiety, a small amount of anxiety when I 849 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: stay at other people's house because like I don't want 850 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: to do something the wrong way or I don't want 851 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: to mess up their stuff or whatever it might be. 852 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: So I had like those kinds of feelings because I 853 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: just didn't you know, you just don't know what the 854 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: norms are. So for example, like if I were to 855 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: shoot one, um, should I just dig in and start 856 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: gutting it right away like I would, or to Steve 857 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: do the gutting because you know, that's how he likes 858 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: it on the show, or like you know, So all 859 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: these like little questions or the things that were like 860 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: giving me anxiety. So all that to say that, now 861 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's my turn to go. And 862 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: I was like not mentally prepared, Like I was thinking 863 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: Doug was gonna be the shooting today and I would observe, 864 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: and but no, it's like go time. So this whole time, 865 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: I've been clicking, you know, going up the hill of 866 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: the rollercoaster, click click click, click click click, going higher 867 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: and higher higher, and then like I'm at the top, 868 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: and then Steve says, all right, Mark, let's go. Now 869 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm just off the edge flying down And from that 870 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: point on it was just a bulur. So we go 871 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: running down the mountain. I got two cameraman behind me, 872 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: running and we're like sprinting down because these bulls were 873 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: coming across the ridge and then they went behind this 874 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: big hill. But they're going to come over this hill 875 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: and drop into this flat kind of basin, and we 876 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: have to intercept them at that basin because if we 877 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: don't get to the basin before, it's not really basin, 878 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: it's more of a bench. If we don't get to 879 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: that bench on the ridge before they do, they're gonna 880 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: see us. So we have to get there before they 881 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: come over top of this hill. So we're racing our 882 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 1: way down there and I'm huffing and puffing and cruising 883 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: down there. We finally get to this little knob looking 884 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: over the bench and we we dropped down and start 885 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: glassing and we don't see the caribou um. So now 886 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: it's like, got crap. Did they like go around the corner, 887 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: go another way? But you know, a minute of glassing 888 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: maybe and all of a sudden, this is when I 889 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: did get that Discovery Channel moment where like you just 890 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: saw like trees pop out from the top of the hill, 891 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: and slowly these trees became heads and the necks and 892 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: then bodies as all these bulls came over the hill 893 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: and then they just started piling and they were in 894 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: one big, massive group, but maybe like fifty or sixty 895 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 1: or something, I don't know, something like that. Those big 896 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: group coming down the mountain and are right in the 897 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: front is this big snowy white Maine big bull and Um, 898 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: so I lay down, I put my pack in front 899 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: of and put my rifle on the pack, and um, 900 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: there's there's several next bulls. So I'm not exactly sure 901 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: which of these bulls is like the best one. But 902 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: Steve's like it's that it's that front one. And I'm like, 903 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: look at him, like he looks really good, but the 904 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: one behind it looks really good. So they're coming across 905 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: to come down the hill. They're coming across the bench 906 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: and UM, I look over at Steve, Steve, do you 907 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: think we should try to cut? Should we try to crawl? 908 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: Kind of cut a little farther to the left so 909 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: we can intersect them at a closer distance. Um. And 910 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: He's like, wow, how far are you come from shooting? 911 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I'd like I'd look a shot 912 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 1: like two hundred yards would make me super happy, two 913 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: hundred less because you know, I don't gun hunt. A 914 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: gun hunt like a couple of days a year. Um. 915 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,720 Speaker 1: And when I do gun hunt, I'm up in northern Michigan, 916 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: where the longest shot you're gonna get like sixty or 917 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: seventy yards. So I'm not I'm not a long raine shooter. 918 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: I'm not a long range rifle shooter. I've been practicing 919 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,280 Speaker 1: at a hundred and two hundred yards with this rifle 920 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: that you honest let me borrow when I was out 921 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: in Montana, and I kind of went into it saying, yeah, 922 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: I know lots of guys take way longer shots than that. 923 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: I know, like three hundred or four yard shots are 924 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: like the norm for a lot of guys. But for 925 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 1: me to be comfortable, I'd rather do two hundred, Like 926 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: I just I don't need to stretch it. Um. But 927 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: Steve's like, well, what do you what do you want 928 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: to shoot at? I'm like, well, i'd be happy if 929 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: it's two hundred or less. And he's like, well, look 930 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: at your scope and look at the two hash marks down. 931 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: That's three use that. I'm like, and I'm not going 932 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not gonna say no, I'm not 933 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: gonna like argue with him about it, um, but in 934 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: my hand like shit, fortunately though, and I just want 935 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: to stay up front, like before we went further, I 936 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 1: want to preface that, like everyone and Steve to everyone 937 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: was just like awesome about you know, Steve wasn't pressuring 938 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: me into doing anything I didn't want to do, and 939 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: I felt super comfortable and everything was great. But but 940 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: regardless like how you know how great they were about it, 941 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: I still felt like pressure, you know what I mean, 942 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: Like they weren't putting any pressure on me, but I 943 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: was putting pressure on myself. That's what I'm trying to say. 944 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: So you know, so Steve's like, you know, just put 945 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: that second hash on there. Um. Luckily, they kept angling 946 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: closer and I'm kind of waiting and they're moving pretty quick. Um. 947 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 1: And then I'm like I'm like, all right, I'm gonna 948 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: shoot one night when they stopped, Steve's like, well, they're 949 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: not gonna stop, Like like, oh crap, you're right because 950 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: they're they're moving on a pretty good clip. And then 951 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: he said, make sure you don't shoot two um, because 952 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: there's you know, they're they're they're all bunched together and 953 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: they're kind of coming in and out and I'm like, god, geez, 954 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 1: so I'm taking a longer shot than I've taken often, 955 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: and they're moving and they're like pasting in between, you know, 956 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: they're all they're all bunched up, and I'm like, jeez, 957 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: this is a debacle. But like in the moment, I 958 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: didn't really have time to think through this. It was 959 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: just like, this is a situation. This is happening. So 960 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: a long story short, got gun rested on my pack. 961 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,720 Speaker 1: This is all happening. I'm gonna be taking this shot. 962 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: So I get the scope on it, and um, I ranged. 963 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: I got two thirty five I think was the last 964 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 1: range I took. So I put it right on him 965 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: and uh and then just shot like it just happened fast, 966 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: Like I was on him. He was moving as soon 967 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: as he came out from um behind another one and 968 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: I had an open shot, a shot and instant you 969 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,280 Speaker 1: can see impact that you can see I hit him. 970 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 1: He stands there and then like and then he like 971 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: almost immediately lays down. So I'm like, awesome, like he's 972 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: going down. It's done. But then like it's not like 973 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm not celebrating, not excited, and just like proof and 974 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: then watching, but he hasn't like keeled over here. He's 975 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: lays there and then he stands back up, and I'm like, 976 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: oh god, no, what happened? So then I put another 977 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: shot on him, and this time he goes down, lays 978 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: down again, and then does some kicks and and he dies. Um. 979 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: But it was like a longer process than I would 980 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: have liked. I would have liked if it was like 981 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: one shot drops and he's instantly dead, you know, that 982 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: that shoulder shot that just knocks him right down. Um. 983 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: So like I'm feeling like a little bit crap. I 984 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: didn't have a great shot. Blah blah blah. But long 985 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 1: story short, after a little while, we walked down there 986 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 1: and check him out. My first shot was back a 987 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: little bit. My second shot wasn't. The heart knocked him, 988 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, took care of him right right there. Um. 989 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: But you know, I think that first one, it was 990 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: just the chaos of the moment, the nerves, the moving shot, 991 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: all these things that maybe, um, you weren't ideal um 992 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: led to an ideal first shot. Luckily, the second one 993 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,280 Speaker 1: I was able to recompose and make it happen. But 994 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: but I felt long the reason I mentioned all this 995 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: is that in that moment, I felt like horrible, Like 996 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't excited. All I felt was like horrible about 997 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: that shot. Um, Like I was embarrassed. I felt like, 998 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, all these guys watching and stuff being filmed, 999 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: and like, you know, Steve, this guy I really respect. 1000 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: I would I would like to, like, you know, show 1001 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: that I'm like adequate. Um, like what does he think 1002 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 1: about my bad first shot? Like all these things like 1003 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: running through my head. It's like I kind of embummed 1004 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: with myself for not being able to enjoy the moment 1005 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: and like instead of like in my head, I was 1006 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: like just all these anxieties. Um. But looking back on 1007 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: it now, like I can remember, like what an incredible moment. 1008 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: I remember walking up to this annual and just being 1009 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 1: like in shock and awe of like just the size 1010 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: and the beauty um, and just like wow, this this happened. 1011 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 1: Just Um, the whole thing was was a crazy roller 1012 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 1: coaster of like emotions and um, I just killed a 1013 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: cariboo on my first day of actually hunting caribou um 1014 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: and just big beautiful. I mean the coat is so 1015 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: silky and like full and this main I just kept 1016 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: putting my fingers in that white mane on his neck. Um. 1017 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: Just amazing and interesting. Caribou are the only uncle it 1018 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: hooved animal in North America that has a fully um 1019 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: fur coated nose. It doesn't have that rubbery nose like 1020 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: a deer or an elk or something like that. It's 1021 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: totally totally covered in hair um, you know, because of 1022 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: what a cool environment they live in. So I remember 1023 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: touching the nose and be like, wow, this is just 1024 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: like so cool, kind of like a mixture of like 1025 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: peach fuzz and like my goatee maybe covering the nose 1026 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: so um. And then these antlers, I mean, just like 1027 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: unreal how big these things are. Another fun fact about 1028 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: cariboo is they have the largest antlers in proportion to 1029 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: body size of any North American ungleland. So so yeah, 1030 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: so it's wild man when you when you know the 1031 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: deer is dead or the cariboos dead, you you are 1032 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: now able to celebrate this kill and you walk up 1033 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: to it and you just you're you're looking at it. 1034 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: What we're what was going through your mind? You know 1035 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: at the time where you bent over and you laid 1036 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: your hands on this animal for the very first time, 1037 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, it was it was. It was the two things. 1038 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: It was. It was still the the internal turmoil over 1039 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: over how the actual thing went down, UM mixed with 1040 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 1: just um, just like wow. I just kept saying wow, 1041 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 1: just like the whole experience. Every everything about this trip 1042 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: was like overwhelming, Like the landscape, the wildlife, um, you know, 1043 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,919 Speaker 1: just all the other things surrounding it was just overwhelming 1044 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,919 Speaker 1: sense of just like bigness and like awe. So that's 1045 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: kind of what I was feeling. It was just like 1046 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 1: shock and awe and UM an appreciation too. I mean 1047 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: sitting there like I, you know, I always try to 1048 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 1: do this, um, you know, just kind of thank the 1049 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: animal or or whomever or whatever it might be, whatever 1050 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: powers above that brought this moment to be um and 1051 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: soide I tried to do. I did that and just 1052 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 1: was like, this is just such an incredible blessing to 1053 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: be here and to have this animal. So just a 1054 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 1: lot of all those things just kind of a huge 1055 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: mixed pot of all sorts of stuff going on. Now, 1056 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: how big because you've killed an elk before, so how 1057 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: big was this caribou compared to an elk that you shot? 1058 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 1: And then did any of those guys know roughly how 1059 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: old this this bowl was that you shot. So relative 1060 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: to a bowl elk, a bull caribou is smaller. So 1061 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: a big bull caribou might be like four pounds or 1062 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: four fifty or you know maybe maybe maybe a really 1063 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 1: big one would be bigger than that. Um. You know, 1064 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,439 Speaker 1: bull elk could be you know, seven pounds and hundred 1065 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: pounds something like that. Um, So definitely smaller than my 1066 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: bowl elk from a body perspective, but still really big look. 1067 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 1: And also like because of the low quality diet of 1068 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: the food available for cariboo, they eat just lichen and 1069 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: stuff like that, these little tiny lichens up on the 1070 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: mountain side. Because of that diet, they have this massive, 1071 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: massive stomach, like this huge bloated stomach. So like his 1072 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: belly just looked like a beach ball or bigger, just massive. Um. 1073 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 1: It's really interesting in that regard. But the antlers were 1074 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: much bigger, So the antlers were bigger than my elk. 1075 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: So the antlers are huge, but the body was maybe 1076 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: a little bit smaller. Um. Now, as far as how 1077 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: old this caribou was, we didn't really know, but it's 1078 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: definitely mature, like definitely a big mature bull. If that 1079 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: means four years old or six years old or how old, 1080 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, and nobody there seemed to be sure either, um, 1081 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 1: but definitely one of the most mature bulls we've seen, 1082 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: Like up until the last day, this was probably the 1083 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 1: top one or two largest carriber we saw the whole 1084 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 1: time until the last day. So so yeah, man, And then, 1085 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, like I mentioned earlier than I had, you know, 1086 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: those worries about okay, now what's the process, you know, 1087 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 1: like should I get going on gutting him right away? 1088 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,760 Speaker 1: Or do I need to wait for the camera crew 1089 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 1: or to Steve start? And then I helped so all 1090 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, you know, had me uncomfortable, but 1091 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: made it through. You know, Steve kind of led the 1092 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: way and stuff, and I helped out, and you know, 1093 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 1: we broke it down and all that was fine, and 1094 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 1: got them all gutted and quartered and packed away and 1095 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: that was cool. You know, again, similar to when I 1096 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: killed my elk, I was just like so like overwhelmed 1097 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 1: by the size of everything in there, Like just gutting 1098 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: this animal so different than gutting a deer, like you 1099 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: could stick out your arm all away to your shoulder 1100 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: and not get to the esophagus um. So that was 1101 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: interesting and just this massive, massive balloon of a stomach. 1102 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: But I got all that taken care of, packed everything up, 1103 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: and then we brought all the meat maybe fifty sixty 1104 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 1: yards away from the gut pile and set it down 1105 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: because we still had a couple hours of daylight left 1106 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: and we feared we'd sit up on the mountain and 1107 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 1: glass and maybe find another one for Doug. So we 1108 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: we did that. We got in the mountainside and we're 1109 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: looking around for for caribou and stuff, and again I 1110 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: spot something off in the distance and it's not a 1111 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 1: caribou though, it's a big old grizz Spot another grizz 1112 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: and a cup, so this is a big She was 1113 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: like huge and brown and like patchy, very patchy, like 1114 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 1: different colored tufts of skin or hair all over, but 1115 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 1: her her cub was very much like the other grizzly 1116 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: we saw, like really sheeny golden um, and man, he 1117 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 1: was just having a great time. He was like doing 1118 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,959 Speaker 1: somersaults down the side of the mountain, rolling over and over. 1119 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: At one point he ran over to a caribou shed 1120 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 1: and started like wrestling with the shed. Um. It was awesome, 1121 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,320 Speaker 1: and so we started making bets, like she was running. 1122 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: They were running down the mountain like they were long 1123 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,919 Speaker 1: ways off, like a mile away from where we were, 1124 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: maybe maybe further, but they were running towards us. And 1125 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: Steve is like, what do you think do you think 1126 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 1: she could possibly smell that gut pile? Like, and so 1127 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: we started like placing bets on whether or not she 1128 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 1: knew about that gut pile, Like why would she be 1129 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: running right down towards us this whole way like a 1130 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: long ways. So we started wondering if she was gonna 1131 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: come all the way to that gut pile. So we 1132 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: watched her for like an hour coming down the hill. Um. 1133 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: But then finally she made it to a berry patch 1134 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: and then they hung up at the berry patch. They 1135 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 1: never did make it to the gut pile, but um, 1136 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 1: they ate some berries. We watched him for a long 1137 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: time and finally she drops behind the hill and starts 1138 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,280 Speaker 1: angling a gatting closer towards the gut pile and stuff. 1139 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 1: And then we're like, all right, you know, we should 1140 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: probably get our meat and get out of here before 1141 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: they do discover it. Um, So we hiked back to 1142 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 1: the meat loaded up, and then did the long hike 1143 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: back with a heavy pack. And that was that was 1144 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: a good load. I had a back quarter, front quarter 1145 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: and the skull and antlers on my back. Um, and 1146 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad it wasn't like a six mile hike because 1147 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 1: that was a pretty heavy load. So what did you 1148 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: do with the meat? Because you you guys were dropped 1149 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: in right. There wasn't a plane still there was there. Yeah, 1150 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 1: no no planes know anything. We were just out there 1151 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: all by ourselves. But it was it was cold. It 1152 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: was cool up there, so we just you know, we 1153 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: had everything in game bags, you know, like a cheese 1154 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 1: cloth type game bags, and we hiked back towards camp, 1155 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: and on a hillside above camp, we just kind of 1156 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 1: made like a cat and meat casher and just stacked 1157 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: everything up there against the antlers so they could get 1158 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: air to the to all sides of the meat and um. 1159 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: You know, during the day, it was probably in the 1160 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: forties or fft s prior forties, high forties most days, 1161 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: and super windy. It was very windy. Um. And then 1162 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 1: at night, you know, it could be down to the 1163 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: twenties or low thirties or something. So it was plenty 1164 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: cool enough for that meat to be fine there. Um. 1165 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 1: And then that night we caught off a hunk of 1166 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: that caribou meat and sliced it real thin and fried 1167 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 1: it up, and we all eat a little bit of it. 1168 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: And how did that taste? Really good? Really good? Just 1169 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: like elk? You know. So I don't really know how 1170 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: to compare it yet. Um relatively similar. Um, I don't 1171 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: know how different. Yes, different, but I can't quit put 1172 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: my finger on how to articulate the difference. Um, but 1173 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: pretty similar to elk and deer. Um. Maybe it just 1174 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: felt especially good because I was eating it on side 1175 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 1: of a mountain. So um. So yeah, man, great, great 1176 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: first day of hunting. And you know, my anxieties aside, 1177 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: like the stress around that unnecessary, Like I didn't need 1178 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: to be stressed out about stuff because you know, nobody 1179 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: was giving me a time about anything, but I was. 1180 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 1: I was putting that on myself. Um. But all that aside, 1181 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: it was just like unbelievable, super super cool experience seeing 1182 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: the bears, seeing all those animals actually getting killed caribou 1183 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: packing them off the mountain. Um, just just amazing. So 1184 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: that night it was just kind of like in awe 1185 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: of all that, and um and then U. The next morning, 1186 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,959 Speaker 1: I wake up day two, day three that we're out there, 1187 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 1: I put up my tent door and the very first 1188 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: thing I see is a grizzly bearing cub in our camp. 1189 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: Did you coop your pants? No? But I was like, 1190 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: WHOA good morning? Um, And like right away, I'm like 1191 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 1: grizzly and camp. I yell at out. Everyone's still in 1192 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: their tents, like still sleeping, and we're like getting around 1193 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: like grizzly and camp. And then when I see this 1194 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,439 Speaker 1: grizzlies right next to like the tent where the crew 1195 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: was sleeping, so like the other the camera guys. So 1196 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: then I started hollering at try to get it away. 1197 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: And then luckily he or she in the cub look 1198 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 1: at me, and then they bomp off the hill and 1199 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: then drop over the side. But over there where these 1200 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: grizzlies ran to, one of the crew members had a 1201 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: separate tent. He didn't sleep with the rest of them 1202 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: because um, he has night terrors, actually um so he so, 1203 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: so he he sleeps in the separate tent just so 1204 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 1: doesn't wake people up. So I see these bears go 1205 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 1: run off the hill and then all of a sudden, 1206 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: I hear him yelling. I'm like, oh no, like they 1207 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: ran right into him, and um fortunately they ran like 1208 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: thirty yards of him. But then when he started yelling, 1209 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: they turned and ran the other way. So no issues. 1210 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: But it could have been it could have been hairy, 1211 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: because you know, a sal in a cub type situation 1212 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: like that is never good to surprise, and she was. 1213 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 1: She was right in there, close to the tents. So 1214 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: that was an interesting start to the day. Um. And 1215 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention another crazy thing they happened was 1216 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: our very first night there. In the middle of the night, 1217 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: like amazingly heavy winds came through. Like I thought my 1218 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: tent was gonna get get crushed to the ground, or 1219 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 1: like the rain I was gonna get ripped off. Like 1220 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: I woke up several times in the night like so loud, 1221 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: my tent is like pushed down over top of my head. Um, 1222 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: like I thought for sure stuff was gonna get ripped out. Fortunately, 1223 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: we because of how windy had been during the day, 1224 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: we didn't. We staked everything, but then we also put 1225 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: big rocks over all the stakes too. Um, so that 1226 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: saved the day from our tents but the crew they 1227 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: slept in these big tps um like TP style tents. 1228 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 1: There's two of them, and one of them, like half 1229 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: of the stakes all came ripping out, So those couple 1230 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: of those guys had to wake up in the middle 1231 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: of the night and we're like out in these gale 1232 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 1: force wins trying to restake these tents. And then there's 1233 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: another guy that was sleeping solo and one of them, 1234 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 1: and that one in the middle of the night, like 1235 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: all the stakes came out in the middle pole like 1236 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: came out. So he had to for like two hours 1237 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 1: sit holding with all his might onto the center pool 1238 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: to keep the TPP flying away, and like he was yelling, 1239 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: but nobody else could hear him, so he had a 1240 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: rough night. Yeah, it was, I mean, like crip, I've 1241 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 1: never been in heavier winds than tent by fire. I 1242 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: mean it was it was out of this world. Um, 1243 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: So that was that was the tent. And then you know, 1244 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: day number three of the trip started with the grizzly 1245 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: encounter in the morning and then just more of the 1246 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: same the rest of the day. We just watched hundreds 1247 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 1: and hundreds of caribou, just like incredible seeing all these 1248 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 1: animals interact and flowing off the mountains and passing through. 1249 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 1: When you just glass all these different bowls up and 1250 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 1: look at him and watch them lots of times you 1251 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 1: see these bulls fighting and stuff. UM. Really cool. And 1252 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 1: then that day Doug shot at one. He killed that 1253 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 1: bowl and we packed that one off the mountain. That 1254 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: night started to rain. We record a podcast episode for 1255 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 1: Steve's podcast. UM. And then the third day, same deal, 1256 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 1: hike and all over the place, glass and all over 1257 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 1: the place. UM found a big bowl that Steve wanted 1258 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: to shoot. It was really far away. UM. So this 1259 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: time a couple of guys stayed back, and then me 1260 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 1: and Steve and the camera guys decided to go after him. 1261 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 1: And then we kind of went on a kind of 1262 01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: wild goose chase, like Steve want to go after this 1263 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: once we go drop way off this mountain down to 1264 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 1: this deep drainage, and then we get to the bottom 1265 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 1: of the drainage and we spot some new bulls up 1266 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: at the top of the ridge. Again that looks really good, 1267 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,479 Speaker 1: So we go all the way back to the top, 1268 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 1: like sprinting out the side of this mountain. We get 1269 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 1: situated there and these bulls dropped down in front of us, 1270 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 1: and then Steve didn't like them so much, so it's like, 1271 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: let's go back after the original one. So then we 1272 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 1: go all the way back down to the bottom of 1273 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 1: the drainage. And then at this point we spot another 1274 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: group of bulls um and this one's halfway up that mountain, 1275 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 1: and Steve ended up taking one of those, but um, 1276 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,919 Speaker 1: super nice bull. And then it was just a heck 1277 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 1: of a pack out of that drainage because now we're 1278 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 1: at the bottom of this steep ravine and we had 1279 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 1: to go straight up this really steep face that like, 1280 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: that load nearly killed me, um because it was I 1281 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 1: took a back quarter and then I also found a 1282 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: big moose shed, like a big moose shed, so I 1283 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 1: strapped that on my pack. So I had a heavy load, 1284 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: and um, this was a very steep hill. So that 1285 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 1: one I was like finally feeling it, like this is 1286 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: our third care but we've packed out in three days, 1287 01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 1: and that one I finally was like, Okay, I'm getting tired. 1288 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 1: But a Fortunately Steve must have been feeling it a 1289 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 1: little bit too, because he was taking breaks and so 1290 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: I was able to take breaks with him, and that 1291 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: that was good. So and then that night we had 1292 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 1: like our meal scene. Um and uh, you know because 1293 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: usually on the on the Meat Eater Show they do 1294 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 1: like a meal scene where they cook up something they killed. 1295 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 1: And um, so we did an Asian hot pot. So 1296 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,880 Speaker 1: like this big boiling pot of like Asian broth mixture 1297 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 1: with like onions and carrots and I don't know, all 1298 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 1: these different things in there. And then we sliced up 1299 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: caribou heart and cariboo backstrap and ptarmigan heart and Ptarmigan breast. 1300 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: So Tarmigan's kind of like a an Arctic like grouse 1301 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 1: type bird. Did you guys shoot that while you were 1302 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 1: out there? Yeah? Shot one and Steve shot one and 1303 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Brodie shot one. I think, oh coo. So so yeah, 1304 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 1: we we sliced all that up and then you screw 1305 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 1: you skew or a little sliceless meat on a little 1306 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 1: wooden stick and then you dip it in that broth 1307 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,479 Speaker 1: like fifteen seconds. Let it just see he really quick 1308 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: and they take it out, dip it sauce and eat 1309 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: it with your fingers and holy crap. And that was amazing. 1310 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 1: So all that had to be packed in right with 1311 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: that plane. So all the vegetables and all the utensils. 1312 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: So the production of the Meat Eator television show. Let's say, 1313 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: if it was just you and me going out there 1314 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: to drop, we'd probably have you know, less gear to 1315 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 1: take just because of the production. Right. Oh yeah, yeah 1316 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,160 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean there they had so much camera 1317 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: equipment and other stuff. Um yeah, just a lot of stuff. 1318 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: So quite a quite a production. But it made for comfortable, 1319 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: you know living situation out there because we had like 1320 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: a little tarp over our little meal areas so we 1321 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: could be you know, sheltered from the rain on that 1322 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 1: day it was raining all day, um, and the wind 1323 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know. It's a nice little nook 1324 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: to sit in there and eat every day, and good 1325 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 1: food like different than like when we go backpacking our stuff. 1326 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 1: Like they had like real sandwiches and um, within mountain 1327 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: houses for dinner. But that what I really liked is 1328 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 1: they brought a massive bag of like candy bars, so 1329 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: there was like dozens of full sized snicker bars and 1330 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 1: kit cats and stuff. So so we ate pretty decent 1331 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 1: considering and so you were comfortable. This wasn't like a 1332 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: real it was. It was roughing it because you were 1333 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 1: way out isolated, but from a from a food and like, uh, 1334 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't like you were on a spike camp out 1335 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 1: in the back country, like with just the meal for 1336 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 1: the day, right, Yeah, we had a little more food 1337 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 1: than I'm used to otherwise it's similar, but the food situation, 1338 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: we had more food available than usually. Like there's like 1339 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,880 Speaker 1: they brought apples, so that was nice. So we had 1340 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 1: like lunch meet for sandwiches and apples, and then like 1341 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 1: granola bars and stuff like that, candy bars, and then 1342 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 1: every night, you know, you have a mountain house meal 1343 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: and in the mornings, yeah, they had they had they 1344 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 1: brought bagels like they'd fry bagels in a pot or um, 1345 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 1: there's some oatmeal and stuff like that. So so eating 1346 01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: it was fancier than than my elk huic, that's for sure. Awesome. 1347 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: And that was and that was it. The next day, 1348 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 1: we're supposed to get picked up early in the morning 1349 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: from the plane by the planes, but they ended up 1350 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 1: not coming to like super late, so we just hung out. 1351 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 1: We packed up camp and hung out all day on 1352 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 1: the mountain side, walking around or napping or reading or 1353 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: goofing around, and like I think the planes finally got 1354 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 1: there like six or seven at night or something, um, 1355 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 1: and it was started raining. It was raining and cloudy 1356 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 1: and windy and all that kind of stuff. So it 1357 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 1: took him a while to be able to get us, 1358 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 1: but they finally did got us out of there late 1359 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 1: that night and on the flight back, So on the 1360 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 1: super cub flight back to the town, I saw thirty 1361 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: to forty moose, like it was insane, like moose everywhere. Wow. 1362 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 1: So that was sweet, like big, big old paddled moose bowls. 1363 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean just it was sweet. So so when you 1364 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 1: were out there, um, you know, certain times of the 1365 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,919 Speaker 1: year Alaska, you know Alaska or northern Hemisphere even into 1366 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: Canada and whatnot, they have longer days. What was your 1367 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: What was the day like out there? How many hours 1368 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 1: of darkness was there? Yes, it was like daylight by 1369 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: about six in the morning, maybe a touch before six, 1370 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 1: and then it was daylight till almost ten o'clock at night. 1371 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 1: So pretty pretty darn long days. Um, So what gives 1372 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:20,960 Speaker 1: you about eight hours of darkness? The rest of the 1373 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 1: day was daylight? Yeah, And you know another thing, I 1374 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 1: didn't really get to see it, but there we did 1375 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 1: have decent northern lights A couple of nights there. Um, 1376 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,719 Speaker 1: I woke up my last night, I set an alarm 1377 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: to try to see him, and I did see them, 1378 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: but just like little slivers of it, like you see. 1379 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 1: It's almost like a green string wavering in the sky. Um. 1380 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 1: But I never got to see it the whole sky 1381 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 1: lit up. But I did hear they got some good 1382 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 1: time laps footage of it, so hopefully well get to 1383 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 1: see that. The last night, though, was funny. They had 1384 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 1: a time lap set up right by my tent and 1385 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: I didn't know it. So I wake up within the 1386 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 1: middle of night two, I am to go see the 1387 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 1: northern lights. So I wake up, get on my tent, 1388 01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 1: walk on my tent, take a piss, look up the sky, 1389 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 1: look for the northern lights, kind of see it, and 1390 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,679 Speaker 1: then go to bed. Well, the next day I ended 1391 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 1: up taking a piss right in front of the time 1392 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 1: left of camera. So your junk is going to be 1393 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 1: on the next Mediator uh show possibly hopefully hopefully hopefully 1394 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:21,639 Speaker 1: I pointed the other way. So you made it back 1395 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:27,519 Speaker 1: to civilization, right, I mean, while you're out there after 1396 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 1: the you know, after the fact, after you've had this experience, 1397 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 1: you've got some time where you're in a plane, you're 1398 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 1: coming back to the civilization. Um, you're just kind of 1399 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 1: you're you're you're thinking about everything that just happened. Has 1400 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 1: this sparked any ideas from you as far as any 1401 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 1: additional adventure hunting scenarios that you that you want to take, 1402 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 1: whether it's in the States or somewhere else, Well, I 1403 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 1: definitely want to go back to Alaska again, Like I 1404 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: as often as I can, I'd like to get up there, um, 1405 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 1: because it's just I mean, we we're talking about this 1406 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,639 Speaker 1: on Steve's podcast about the fact that in the Lower 1407 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 1: forty eight, like we are fighting now today too fixed 1408 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 1: mistakes that were made you know, a hundred and fifty 1409 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 1: years ago still or you know, fifty years or whatever 1410 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 1: might be, like whatever it might be, to wildlife populations 1411 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 1: and or habitat. Like we're fighting to try to protect 1412 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 1: the last vestiges of wilderness and open space that we 1413 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 1: have and to you know, continue to rebound populations or 1414 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 1: protect them at the at the place that we've been 1415 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,000 Speaker 1: able to get these these animals back to now. But 1416 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,559 Speaker 1: the Lower forty eight it's like repair mode kind of 1417 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, we we've really screwed things up here, and 1418 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 1: we're just trying to make it a little bit better 1419 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: and fix the small things we've been all to recover. 1420 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 1: So far in Alaska, it's still for the most part, 1421 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 1: like it was years ago. For I mean, the large 1422 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: portion of it is relatively intact, relatively still wild, relatively 1423 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, in harmony with it should be and where 1424 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 1: now it's just like, don't screw this up. So we 1425 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: screwed up in the lower forty eight and we're trying 1426 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 1: to fix it and keep it. We've got left in 1427 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 1: the last We've got this incredible thing still, this public 1428 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 1: land and this wilderness and these places that are just amazing. Um, 1429 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 1: We've got this liver of what it used to be 1430 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 1: still there, and um, it just has reminded me of 1431 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,719 Speaker 1: how important it is to keep that the way it is. Um. 1432 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 1: Just knowing that there's somewhere that is still like that today, 1433 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 1: it's it's very reassuring for me. Its just it's good 1434 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 1: to know there's still a wild place. It's good to 1435 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 1: know that you can go somewhere and be hundreds of 1436 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: miles from anybody else and be surrounded by grizzlies and 1437 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 1: wolves and caribou and the night in the northern lights. 1438 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: It is like good for my soul to know that 1439 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,679 Speaker 1: that is there and available. Um, and I just want 1440 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: to fight really hard to make sure it stays that way. Amen, 1441 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: man Amen. So any other takeaways from from this trip, 1442 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean, not necessarily just the adventure and emotional standpoint, 1443 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: but anything else that was just really cool, or you know, 1444 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 1: something that you want to tell the listeners that they 1445 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 1: should try to do something like this, or I guess 1446 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon's final thoughts. Yeah, so final thoughts. I think 1447 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,800 Speaker 1: first and foremost, you know, the trip was incredible from 1448 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, being there in the wildlife and the landscape 1449 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 1: and killing the caribou and getting all this great meat, 1450 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: all those things were amazing, But just as important, if 1451 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 1: not maybe even more important, was, like I mean, I 1452 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: think this comes down to so often is the people 1453 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 1: to Like, just the group of guys I was with 1454 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,760 Speaker 1: on this trip were so great. They were so welcoming 1455 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 1: to me, they were so much fun to be around. 1456 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 1: Um And like, so I just want to I appreciate 1457 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,640 Speaker 1: that so much. I appreciate the fact that Steve and 1458 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 1: the guys invited me to go on this trip. Um. 1459 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: Just an unbelievable opportunity and I can never thank all 1460 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 1: them enough. Um, just the coolest guys in the world. 1461 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 1: So I would say number one. If you are not 1462 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,439 Speaker 1: watching The Meat either TV show or listening to The 1463 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,599 Speaker 1: Meat either podcast, you really should be. They're doing awesome work. 1464 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 1: The guys behind the scenes are amazing guys, super fun guys. UM, 1465 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,639 Speaker 1: so check out, Like, make sure you're following Dirt Myth 1466 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram. The guy takes some incredible photos. Um. Chris 1467 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 1: Gil followed Chris Gil on Instagram. He's another terrific camera guy. UM. 1468 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,600 Speaker 1: Brodie Henderson and j honest, but tell us just did 1469 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 1: an awesome job of like keeping the train on the 1470 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 1: tracks as far as the whole production and everything. And 1471 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 1: then Steve. I mean I think most of most everyone 1472 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,600 Speaker 1: listening knows who Steve Ronella is. But um, it was 1473 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,679 Speaker 1: really cool to get spend more time with him. And 1474 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 1: he's someone that I've looked up to for a long time. 1475 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 1: I've um, you know, modeled a lot of the ways 1476 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 1: that I try to communicate things, um, kind of around 1477 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 1: the way he has. Because I think he's just done 1478 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 1: a tremendous job of representing the hunting community in a 1479 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 1: positive light, and I think he's influenced the hunting community 1480 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 1: in a really positive way, moved us in a reaction 1481 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 1: that I think is very important. So, um man, I'm 1482 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 1: just gonna continue to be appreciative of what he's doing. 1483 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 1: And it was neat to be able to learn from 1484 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:12,040 Speaker 1: him in person. And also, these dudes are way goofier 1485 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,800 Speaker 1: in person then you might expect, like just like constantly 1486 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 1: laughing about stupid things and like making up songs, and 1487 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,240 Speaker 1: Steve's got nicknames for everybody. He starts making up songs 1488 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:27,560 Speaker 1: about different people. Um, or like we were doing like handstandoffs, 1489 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,559 Speaker 1: like seeing who could do handstand for the longest time, 1490 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 1: or who could do planks for the longest time, or 1491 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: all sorts of goofy stuff like that. So just like 1492 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 1: a really good time from a personal standpoint to um. 1493 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,920 Speaker 1: But then as two other final thoughts, I think, just 1494 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,680 Speaker 1: to what I said there a second ago, this just 1495 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,600 Speaker 1: reminded me again of of how fortunate and blessed we 1496 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 1: are that, you know, our forefathers and people that came 1497 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 1: before us had the foresight to protect some of these 1498 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 1: places and leave them as they were, or you know, 1499 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 1: or that did things to allow our wildlife popular lations 1500 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 1: to recover in the lower forty eight or to keep 1501 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 1: them great as they're in Alaska. Um So I would 1502 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 1: just I would encourage everyone to a educate yourself on this, 1503 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,719 Speaker 1: like read about the history of these places, read about 1504 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 1: these wild places, learn about what we have here. Realize 1505 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,880 Speaker 1: that you, as an American have access to just this. 1506 01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 1: You have access to a unbelievable swath of landscape and 1507 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,599 Speaker 1: wildlife and experience like it's there for you. You don't 1508 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 1: need to pay anything to go in there and do 1509 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 1: these things. Um. Yet it takes planning. Yeah, it takes 1510 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,040 Speaker 1: a lot of work. Yeah, it takes some money to 1511 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,479 Speaker 1: get to places. Um, but it's there for you. So 1512 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 1: go see these places, experience these places, and then, um, 1513 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, when needed, stand up for these places. Um, 1514 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,639 Speaker 1: you know, call your congressmen, write letters, tell your friends 1515 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 1: and family. These places are important. Um So I think 1516 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 1: that's that's what I would say. Yeah, very very very 1517 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 1: very important. So yeah, man, unbelievable trip. So what's next? Man? 1518 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 1: Real quick though, Before we move on, we need to 1519 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,479 Speaker 1: take a second to thank our partners at White Tailed 1520 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Properties for the support of the Wired Hunt podcast and 1521 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,600 Speaker 1: our producer Spencer Newhart caught up with one of the 1522 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 1: White Tailed Properties land specialists recently to get a little 1523 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,679 Speaker 1: insight into the process of booking your first outfited hunt. 1524 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 1: This week with White Tailed Properties, we are joined by 1525 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 1: Tim Woods, a land specialist out of Central Ohio, and 1526 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 1: Tim is going to be telling us about what to 1527 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: look for when booking your very first outfitted hunt. Well, 1528 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 1: I guess I would say, if you're looking the book 1529 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 1: with your your first outfitted hunt, Um, first thing I'll 1530 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 1: do is, you know, maybe maybe not go right to 1531 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,559 Speaker 1: social media. No, social media is big at this day 1532 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,840 Speaker 1: and age, but you want to find an outfitter that 1533 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 1: is not out there pounding this chest a lot um, 1534 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, saying look at me, look what we can do. Um. 1535 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 1: You know from my experience, you know, being that you know, 1536 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,640 Speaker 1: I am an outfitter, you know, and I see a 1537 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of guys doing last stuff on 1538 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,839 Speaker 1: social media, which is great, you know, they're they're promoting 1539 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,439 Speaker 1: the sport and they're promoting their business. Um, but it 1540 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 1: seems like they need they need the hunters. You know, 1541 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 1: if you want to look for an outfitter that there 1542 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 1: is that doesn't do a whole lot of advertising because 1543 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 1: they don't need to because they've got the returning client 1544 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 1: base that you know that they cater to and they're 1545 01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 1: just from word of mouth. Is the best, you know, 1546 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 1: business model you can have as far as taking care 1547 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,400 Speaker 1: of the people and treating them right, and they're always 1548 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna come back, and if they can't come back, they're 1549 01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 1: gonna have their buddies come in their place and so forth. 1550 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,639 Speaker 1: So if you're looking at the book, your first first 1551 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,600 Speaker 1: outfitted hunt, uh, get some references from that outfitter and 1552 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,680 Speaker 1: call them and see how they treated them, you know, 1553 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,120 Speaker 1: whether they killed or didn't kill. If you'd like to 1554 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,879 Speaker 1: learn more and to see the properties that Tim currently 1555 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 1: has listed for sale, visit white Tail properties dot com 1556 01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 1: backslash Woods that's you oo. D s Well. I got 1557 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 1: back late Sunday, well Sunday morning, like one in the 1558 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,960 Speaker 1: morning and Sunday and then I slept for a few hours, 1559 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 1: got up, drove across the state to eastern Montana. Found 1560 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 1: the campsite in this area where I want to hunt, 1561 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 1: and now I'm trying to kill Montana whitetail. So trying 1562 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,720 Speaker 1: to get that done. It's been a little bit. Uh, 1563 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be more challenging than I originally thought. Um, 1564 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:34,120 Speaker 1: well super hot. It's like degrees, so I'm like just 1565 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 1: sweating to death every day. Excuse me with hiccups. Um. 1566 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,880 Speaker 1: And then you know, I found a bunch of public 1567 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,519 Speaker 1: land pieces when I just studied the maps and I 1568 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 1: was looking for public that again like what I was 1569 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 1: doing last year. I was looking for public land that 1570 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 1: got down into this river bottom cover that was adjacent 1571 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 1: to alfalfa fields because I wanted food and I want 1572 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,600 Speaker 1: to cover that I could hopefully get in between. So 1573 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 1: I found like five or six of these places on 1574 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 1: the maps, and then my plan was to get here 1575 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,280 Speaker 1: Sunday night and drive around and glass them all that 1576 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,000 Speaker 1: night and get an idea of which areas held you know, 1577 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 1: possible mature bucks, and then go hunt those spots. Well, 1578 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 1: what I didn't do in my like all these different 1579 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 1: things going on when I didn't plan for, was like 1580 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,680 Speaker 1: drive time, so I didn't realize how spread out this 1581 01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 1: stuff was. It didn't look that big on the map, 1582 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 1: but it actually takes like an hour or more to 1583 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 1: get between some of these places. So that's made it 1584 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,760 Speaker 1: tough for me to like get down and explore some 1585 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: of these like farther southern sections. So um, the first 1586 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,200 Speaker 1: night I explored kind of the northern side, and then 1587 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,040 Speaker 1: the next morning I woke up really early and drove 1588 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,599 Speaker 1: way down to the southern section and check those out, 1589 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 1: and nothing really looked all that great. Unfortunately, Um, a 1590 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff is all grazed, so like it's 1591 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,719 Speaker 1: just like graze to dirt almost from cows and sheep 1592 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,280 Speaker 1: and stuff. So like three out of this or four 1593 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 1: out of the six properties that I thought would have 1594 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 1: potential don't like not even worth hunting at all. Another 1595 01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,240 Speaker 1: one there was I did see some d are in 1596 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 1: a neighboring alf alfa field, but it's pretty far away 1597 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,160 Speaker 1: from the cover. Like these deer are pretty far away 1598 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: from the public, and there looks like they're heading into 1599 01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 1: bed on the private too. I didn't know if they're 1600 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna make it down to the public or not. A 1601 01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 1: glass on the spoting skill for a long time and 1602 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,880 Speaker 1: never sound quite make it there, So that's I don't know. 1603 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,519 Speaker 1: The best spot that I found so far is the 1604 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,960 Speaker 1: spot that fortunately is close to my campsite. And um, 1605 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,720 Speaker 1: this there's a state land and then there's a few 1606 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,559 Speaker 1: sections of blm land that surrounds one alf alfa field 1607 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 1: where I saw a ton of deer the first night, um, 1608 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,840 Speaker 1: like fifty sixty deer or something like that, including two 1609 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 1: potential shooter box one for sure shooter another one that 1610 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 1: maybe um. And so that's where I've been hunting. Um. 1611 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,960 Speaker 1: Unfortunately the public land, like I'm not able to get 1612 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 1: in between the deer. It seems like there's betting and 1613 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 1: food on the private So these deer betting and then 1614 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 1: going right into the private there stay in the private 1615 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,759 Speaker 1: to bed. They don't have to come onto the public 1616 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,320 Speaker 1: to bed like they did in that party hundred last year. UM. 1617 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,439 Speaker 1: So last night I set up a stand um on 1618 01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 1: one side of this as as close as I could 1619 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 1: get to where that food was, and I was hoping 1620 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: that maybe these deer come out the other side of 1621 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 1: the cover towards us other distant half off the field. 1622 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,120 Speaker 1: And I saw a bunch of deer, maybe like fifteen deer, 1623 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,840 Speaker 1: but all does and fawns, and then two little year 1624 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: and a half of bucks. And went back into this morning, 1625 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 1: same place, left everything in the tree, same deal does 1626 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,040 Speaker 1: and a couple of little bucks nothing nothing older than 1627 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,679 Speaker 1: a year and a half, A little little like four key, 1628 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 1: So that's been a little bit disheartening. I was hoping 1629 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,519 Speaker 1: to at least get eyes on a mature bucks so 1630 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,280 Speaker 1: I could be adjusting my stand location based on a sighting. Um, 1631 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,719 Speaker 1: but I don't have that. So I pulled my stand 1632 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,439 Speaker 1: this morning, and as soon as we get done with this, 1633 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:52,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back in there and UM move a set. 1634 01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,479 Speaker 1: I'm going to try to get to that BLM land 1635 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 1: that's in there. It's it's land locked BLM lands. You 1636 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 1: can't actually access that anyway except for if you if 1637 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 1: you follow the state land all the way to the river, 1638 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 1: you can get in the river, and the river below 1639 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,639 Speaker 1: the high water mark is public access. You can walk 1640 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 1: the river. So I'm gonna walk to the river and 1641 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,679 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna follow that river bottom all the way 1642 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,000 Speaker 1: to this BLM land and then pop up into the 1643 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,000 Speaker 1: public again and try to get there. And that the 1644 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,880 Speaker 1: piece I'm going to go into is directly behind this 1645 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,240 Speaker 1: alfalfa field, so there should be a deer in there. 1646 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,680 Speaker 1: The issue is going to be my wind. Um, the 1647 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 1: wind is just not great. It's gonna be blowing to 1648 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,960 Speaker 1: some deer, to some portion of the deer. So I'm 1649 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 1: hoping that I can stay low in the river to 1650 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,599 Speaker 1: get past a good number of them with my wind 1651 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,559 Speaker 1: hopefully not gonna blow because I'm gonna be down low, 1652 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna immediately get up and pop right 1653 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,400 Speaker 1: into a tree, and I'm gonna know that stuff due 1654 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,840 Speaker 1: south of me is gonna win me. But hopefully it's 1655 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,360 Speaker 1: just that one line and then the rest of it 1656 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,800 Speaker 1: will hopefully be Um Like, I have to make a 1657 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,679 Speaker 1: sacrifice to get in there. I only have a couple 1658 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:59,439 Speaker 1: of days, so I gotta cut that risk reward. It's 1659 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,080 Speaker 1: that risk award thing that we always talk about, exactly exactly, 1660 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,360 Speaker 1: So it's a I gotta kind of swing for the 1661 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:07,880 Speaker 1: fences a little bit here because I just don't have 1662 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,840 Speaker 1: a lot of time. But I think it could be 1663 01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,839 Speaker 1: a good spot. Um. I met the rancher who grazes 1664 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 1: the public land and the private land right next to 1665 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,640 Speaker 1: what he owns that private land next to it, and 1666 01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,160 Speaker 1: he was a really nice guy with Chad for a 1667 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,840 Speaker 1: long time, and he told me his son in law 1668 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,439 Speaker 1: I think, and a grandson are hunting his private land 1669 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 1: and they've been seeing a couple of big bucks, including 1670 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 1: one he claims like twenty four inches wide, and another 1671 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,600 Speaker 1: one that either had a second main beam or a 1672 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 1: split brout town. I'm not sure what he was trying 1673 01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,720 Speaker 1: to say, um, but big like there's a couple of 1674 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,799 Speaker 1: big Bucks in there that they're seeing, and that sounds 1675 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,320 Speaker 1: like those are different than the deer I saw the 1676 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,800 Speaker 1: first night. So I think if I can get into 1677 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,280 Speaker 1: this spot without spooking a bunch of deer, I'm gonna 1678 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:50,919 Speaker 1: be potentially in a good area. Cool well Man. Hopefully 1679 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 1: the momentum kind of from the from the hunt in 1680 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,080 Speaker 1: Alaska kind of carries throughout the rest of the rest 1681 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:03,559 Speaker 1: of this little Montana North Dakota trip you're on. Yeah, dude, 1682 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 1: thank you. I'm hoping so too. I'm feeling like a 1683 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,439 Speaker 1: little bit like I don't know about how this is 1684 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:13,200 Speaker 1: going so far. But tonight, tonight will hopefully be in 1685 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:18,080 Speaker 1: the right spot, and then uh yeah, probably Thursday. Hopefully 1686 01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,719 Speaker 1: I can get it done by Thursday, and then Thursday 1687 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,799 Speaker 1: and to move to North Dakota and try to refigure 1688 01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:26,080 Speaker 1: it all out again. And that's the fun part, right, Yeah, 1689 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,759 Speaker 1: it is. It is so and it's it is supposed 1690 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,479 Speaker 1: to cool down Thursday, like Wednesday night, Thursday morning, Big 1691 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 1: cold friends coming through. Um, it's gonna rain a bunch, 1692 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 1: which will be a little bit of a pain, but 1693 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna drop like twenty degrees. So that's a good 1694 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:44,120 Speaker 1: deer moving. Awesome. Well, good luck man, Thank you sir. 1695 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,439 Speaker 1: So that's my story. That's what's going on with me. 1696 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,639 Speaker 1: Anything else in your side that you want to share, 1697 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,320 Speaker 1: that's me fake crime. What about the what about the 1698 01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 1: trail camera? You check the trail camera? Oh yeah, I 1699 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,960 Speaker 1: mean I got you know. I talked about this big 1700 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:07,080 Speaker 1: egg field with a buffer strip in it, right. Yeah, 1701 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,920 Speaker 1: we shed hunted there and every every big mature buck 1702 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 1: that is in the area was on that trail camera. 1703 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:19,160 Speaker 1: So um on on the one side of the farm, 1704 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,200 Speaker 1: they all show up right in the middle of this, 1705 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:25,599 Speaker 1: uh this egg field and uh um. If it wasn't 1706 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,600 Speaker 1: for my son coming here anytime soon, I would definitely 1707 01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:35,639 Speaker 1: be finding a way. I actually did a podcast with 1708 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:40,080 Speaker 1: Scott Bestel recently where we talk about some early season 1709 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 1: hunting and he me and him get into a conversation 1710 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,840 Speaker 1: of about hunting egg fields, standing egg fields in a 1711 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 1: scenario like what I'm talking about here, early early season, 1712 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 1: and the goal for me would be to you know, 1713 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,479 Speaker 1: get in one of these trees and catch these deer. 1714 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:02,479 Speaker 1: They're basically living in an eight acre egg field right now, 1715 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,519 Speaker 1: that standing corn and with the big acorn drop that 1716 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,280 Speaker 1: is happening right now, there's I have a feeling they're 1717 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,680 Speaker 1: betting in the corn and then coming out to a 1718 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,200 Speaker 1: couple acorn groves that are that surround this egg field, 1719 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,639 Speaker 1: and um, we're not in the in the corn. They're 1720 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,840 Speaker 1: not betting in the corn, but they're probably betting in 1721 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 1: some of these buffer strips in the corn. So it's 1722 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,479 Speaker 1: roughly the same thing and making their way some of 1723 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:34,080 Speaker 1: these acorn drop sites. And if if I was able 1724 01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,919 Speaker 1: to do it, which I'm not, I would be somewhere 1725 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 1: in between these buffer strips and these acorn spots. So Dan, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 1726 01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:48,120 Speaker 1: please please find a way to hunt in October. You 1727 01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,679 Speaker 1: have you have to hunt in October. Well, here's the deal. 1728 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 1: And you know this man, or you're gonna you're gonna 1729 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,920 Speaker 1: know that. I know, I know. It's not it is not. 1730 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 1: It's not an excuse you have to do. You got 1731 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,880 Speaker 1: to find what I have to do. If I if 1732 01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you, I'm gonna send you a hundred dollars. 1733 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you a hundred dollar check. In the 1734 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,639 Speaker 1: memo line it is gonna say babysitter and I'm gonna hire. 1735 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna I'm gonna send you 1736 01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 1: a babysitter check, and you're going to pay for at 1737 01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 1: least one night of babysitting on a good evening. And 1738 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:27,720 Speaker 1: then you can and then you can show your wife. 1739 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,040 Speaker 1: You can say, look, Mark sent me a hundred dollar check. 1740 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,040 Speaker 1: I can't not use it. I have to hunte. Here's 1741 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,880 Speaker 1: what the memo should say, hundred dollars. This is a 1742 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 1: in a payoff. You should just write the check to 1743 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,839 Speaker 1: my wife and even want about it be like this. 1744 01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,200 Speaker 1: This is letting Dan hunt one night. Go buy yourself 1745 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,240 Speaker 1: something nice, Sarah, go buy yourself something nice. That's exactly 1746 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,599 Speaker 1: that's what it should be. Okay, I'll do that. I'm 1747 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,560 Speaker 1: dead serious. Dan. I'm gonna buy you a night of 1748 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 1: hunting in October. I'm gonna send you a check. First, 1749 01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,439 Speaker 1: ye first, old friend. October, you go into a good spot, 1750 01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:07,800 Speaker 1: kill one of those suckers. Yeah, I wish, I wish 1751 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,080 Speaker 1: it was that easy. All right, we'll look for look 1752 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:14,759 Speaker 1: for it in the mail here when I get back. Okay, alright, alright, 1753 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,560 Speaker 1: we'll see what we'll see if you if you address 1754 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,200 Speaker 1: I think she. I think she'd be down for it 1755 01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,479 Speaker 1: if you give her the money directly to her and 1756 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't touch my hands at all. Alright, So do 1757 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,200 Speaker 1: you want me to address it to her, like write 1758 01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,840 Speaker 1: write her a special like, write her a letter like 1759 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:36,680 Speaker 1: dear dearest Sarah, Dearest Sarah, Sarah, congrats on the new child. Um, 1760 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,880 Speaker 1: here's a hundred dollars bill as basically a bribe to 1761 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:47,120 Speaker 1: let your husband go hunting one night in Oh. This 1762 01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,080 Speaker 1: will be amazing. All right, I'm gonna do this, and 1763 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 1: I just need you to report back to me on 1764 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 1: exactly how she takes it. And then we're gonna really 1765 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 1: hype up this hunt. Like I'm gonna want full documentation 1766 01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,040 Speaker 1: of the hunt. I want like Instagram stories every five minutes. 1767 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna want you to do a full podcast debrief 1768 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 1: talking about how this all worked out. This will be 1769 01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,960 Speaker 1: like October fifteen. Episode will be like the post Dan 1770 01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:15,880 Speaker 1: Johnson October Hunt, and um, yeah, this is a good plan. 1771 01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,640 Speaker 1: I like it. Okay, all right, Well, well, uh, the 1772 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 1: first thing is you have to write the check to 1773 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,240 Speaker 1: my wife and then after that we'll see how it 1774 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,519 Speaker 1: all goes down. Alright, dude, there is there is a 1775 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,080 Speaker 1: chance I'm not not joking that there's a small chance 1776 01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,639 Speaker 1: that she would send the check back to you or 1777 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,600 Speaker 1: then you a text that it's uh that's worth that, 1778 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:44,599 Speaker 1: that's worth two. I have three kids now, man, remember, 1779 01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:49,000 Speaker 1: oh man, well you will soon. Yep. Well, dude, I say, 1780 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,120 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta shut this down. I need to 1781 01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:55,439 Speaker 1: scramble some caribou brains. Um, I gotta clean out the 1782 01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,960 Speaker 1: brain cavity area on the skull on my my boo here, 1783 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,639 Speaker 1: get that cleaned out so it doesn't rot. And then 1784 01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:06,479 Speaker 1: I need to take a nap before hunting. So it 1785 01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,519 Speaker 1: sounds like a good day. Yes, that's that's the day's plan. 1786 01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:14,519 Speaker 1: So good luck with baby stuff. If you guys end 1787 01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,600 Speaker 1: up having having him early fingers crossed, everything's great and 1788 01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:22,840 Speaker 1: healthy and uh let's check back in a week. Alright, 1789 01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:27,200 Speaker 1: good luck man, And that's it. Folks. Thank you for 1790 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,799 Speaker 1: joining in for a little bit of story time today. 1791 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,800 Speaker 1: Hopefully you enjoyed it. And before we go, I want 1792 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,280 Speaker 1: to give a big things to our partners at Sick Gear, 1793 01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:39,719 Speaker 1: Yetie Cooler's, Matthew's Archery, Maven Optics, the White Tailed Institute 1794 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,639 Speaker 1: of North America, Trophy Ridge and Hunt, Terra maps, and finally, 1795 01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,800 Speaker 1: of course, thank you all for listening. I appreciate your 1796 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 1: time and your support. If you're hunting this week, I 1797 01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:52,599 Speaker 1: wish you all the luck in the world, and until 1798 01:30:52,680 --> 01:31:02,960 Speaker 1: next time, stay wired to hunt. The broken bird beating 1799 01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:03,400 Speaker 1: beca