WEBVTT - Philly Love with Anthony Gargano 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:05.720 Ka boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:08.960 a week was enough, I think again. He's the last 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.680 remnants of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.760 He treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:20.000 the rich pill poppers in the penthouse. The Clearinghouse of 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.840 Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:31.920 with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.560 We are back at it yet again Friday, Friday, Friday, 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:41.440 The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller as we bloviate the 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.760 weekend away because four hours a night not enough on 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.960 the overnight eight days a week. 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But this week I'm gonna 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.680 talk to one of my my radio oh uh friends, 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.040 one of my radio associates, a colleague of mine. We 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.520 are excited now to welcome in a guy that you 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.000 have heard for several years on the Fox Sports Radio 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:16.160 National airwaves on Saturday. He also has been a long 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:20.960 time member, believe over twenty years he has been bloviating 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:25.320 on the local Philadelphia sports talk radio airwaves. And as 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.239 someone that appreciates the art of sports radio, there's certain 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.080 towns that do it right, and I like a little 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.079 edge to my sports talk radio. Philadelphia is one I've 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.959 never lived in Philly. I've talked to these guys. Listen 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.560 to it a little bit online. Boston. Detta work in Boston, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:45.080 New York the axis of sports talk radio where they'll 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:50.480 throw down the chainsaw on their teams, and Gargano is 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.800 a big part of it. Anthony Gargano, he does a 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.440 midday show in Philly in addition to all of the 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.200 stuff that he does at Fox Sports Radio. So I 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.919 thought it'd be fun to talk to Anthony and chat 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:06.680 with him about the inner workings of radio behind the scenes. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:12.399 He's that very interesting career as a newspaper guy that 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.799 went into radio. We'll get into all of it. Rather 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.840 than me spoil the fun. Let's give it up now 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:25.960 for veteran radio broadcaster and renaissance man Anthony Gargano. Anthony, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.760 thank you, thank you for doing this. Everyone is I 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.600 want to get into the meeting potatoes at radio. So 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.040 everyone is different here and I want to I want 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.400 to talk to some shops. So what are the ingredients, 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:41.040 in your opinion that make for a quality sports talk 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:46.640 radio Listen watch a great question, Benny. I gotta go authenticity, 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:52.440 So don't give me hottakes, give me your real opinion. Uh, 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.880 give me some fun cy when you're on the air, 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.600 you're fun. Like I could actually hear of the smile 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:05.160 along your face when you're doing your show, because the 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:09.600 fun is an important piece I think of the program, 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.760 and I can hear that. And you'll not only give 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.160 me sports and good sports because you know what you're 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.080 talking about, but you'll you'll make me laugh, you make 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.120 me smile, You'll you'll tell me what's really in your heart. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.440 I never feel like you're just giving me something that 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.440 will watch me shock the world, because you and I 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.839 both know that people remember not your sports opinions, but 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:38.279 they remember little things. And I think authenticity is a 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.920 big part of it. Yeah, and I agree with you. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.359 I got to me and there are guys that do 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.600 meet in potatoes sports radio and they give stats and 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.240 all that stuff. But it's it is. You're absolutely the entertainment. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.279 And it is frustrating Anthony, because I'll you know, I 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.479 do these rants the monologues every hour, and you do 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.919 the same thing. I'm sure you're ranting Raymond on your show. 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.280 And Philly and I I've heard John Fox a bunch 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.039 over the years here and we ranked and rave and 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.480 then we'll make some throwaway comment about like a bologna 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.680 sandwich that we ate the other day or something like that. 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.599 And that's the thing that people remember. It's not it's 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:17.200 not our opinion on Lebron James or the Yankees or 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.239 the Dodgers. It's that other stuff that that really sticks 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.800 with people. Relating. Right, you're gonna be relatable. As you said, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.640 you gotta relate to people. Relatability. You took the word 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.919 out of another I was just gonna say that. You know, 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.960 that's something that is I think so crucial. Like they 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:35.000 gotta feel like, oh, there's Dan then at the supermarket, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.400 like I'm at the supermarket, he's at the drug store, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.160 or he's got the kids out, and you know, they 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.400 want either if they want to feel like, because radio 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.160 is a very warm medium, they want to feel like 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.239 they're leaving you in your home and they trust you 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.240 you're one of them. And I think that's a key component. Yeah, 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.240 And the great thing, Anthony, at least I know in 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.240 my case and in your case, I thought you've had 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.160 some big time gigs in Philly, But for me, I 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.560 have kept it real. I'm a man of the people, Anthony. 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.760 I've never tasted the real big time uh money like 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.480 when I know when Jim Rome or Colin Cowherd, when 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.560 they when they sell their house, it ends up in 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.000 the real estate page in the newspaper, right because a 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.800 big deal. When I when I just moved recently, no 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:21.880 one even knows about it, right, No, if I didn't 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.320 say it, no one would know about it because it 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:29.400 keeps me relatable. But it's managements by design, by design, Anthony, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:34.400 it's their plan on that one. Man, I've missed out 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:39.320 all them, all the property. Yeah, yeah, I remember we 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.840 had uh you know Mike North who used to work 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.159 at the network on He was like the highest paid 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:48.120 guy in sports radio in Chicago, um years ago, and 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.279 uh you know, he tasted like the very top of 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.560 the money chain in radio. And I was like, I 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.680 wonder that would be like I wonder if I would change, 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.120 you know, I wonder I would be different if I 0:06:56.240 --> 0:07:02.400 made that like that, because you are what you are, man, 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.400 You're you're you're all again, I go back to the world, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:09.200 Authanic And by the way, what what like, let's be 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:13.240 real for a second. Unless somebody drop a voteload of money, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.200 right that you can travel the world and not work. 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.520 You know, we're you gonna change that. You're not gonna change. 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:24.040 You're gonna love your teams, you're gonna love your family, 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.200 and you're gonna have fun. Yeah, and the other two 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.880 Anthony and I can tell from from listening to you. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:31.760 I mean, you have the bug, You've been bitten by 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.480 the radio bug. You love it, you enjoy it, and 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.880 it's like it's one of those things like this kind 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.640 of a job where you can do it pretty late 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.040 in life. It's not like some of these other jobs 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:43.880 where if you're you have a real job and you're 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:48.560 laying down asphalt or concrete or you're working as a contractor, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.120 at some point you're gonna have to stop doing that 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.800 because you know, it's physical labor. All we do is 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.160 sit around and yap and rant and rave, which is 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.480 kind of cool. Like if you can keep doing it 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.400 pretty late in life, if you if you want, yeah, 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.120 you log he lug around a lot of hot air 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:10.320 is the only problem. We're We're blessed. We're blessing that thing. 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.880 I love radio. I do. I started out as a 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:19.240 newspaper a journalist, and so then I transitioned over to radio. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.200 And I love to write and I still write my 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.240 screenplays and written a couple of books. No whole thing, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:32.920 but radio connecting with people is awesome, dude, Like you 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.120 just the warrant comes across and I talked to a 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:40.360 lot of callers. It's really called driven and so you 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.400 and you learn so much and you know these people 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:49.560 and it's a beautiful community that's not just you know, 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.880 tweeted or texted. Yeah, and I gotta ask you know, 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.720 you made the transition and successfully. They've been guys that 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.800 have tried to get into radio. They just didn't have 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:02.960 the gift forget. But when you were an honorable you 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:04.520 worked at like this. I read you worked at the 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:08.360 Associated Press in Chicago, and that's a big time gig. 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.360 The New York Post, I think you worked. I mean, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.760 these are some big, big writing jobs. Like what got 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.000 you to cross over to radio? Is there anyone that said, hey, 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.640 you'd be good on radio or is this something you 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:22.280 always wanted to do? Now you know? It was? Um 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.720 So I'm in New York and I wanted to be 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.280 a foreign correspondent. I wanted to transfer out of sports. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.960 I went for an interview at the New York Times. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.560 They said I had to leave the New York post 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.679 to get cleansed, and I had to go to a 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.959 like a real newspaper with a news department. So I 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.640 got a job at the Philiphia Inquirer. And I'm at 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:51.520 the Inquirer and I was in sports and I fill 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.760 did for a week because newspapers you don't make any money, 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.760 so I'm looking to hostile make a few dollars and 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:03.760 I go fill in at w I P and like that. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.720 Two weeks later, the guy goes, you want the midday 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:10.160 show and I got no, man, I'm a writer, blah 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.200 blah blah whatever. And then like they're like, well you're sure, 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.720 here's the offer, and it was like double my salary, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.959 which I was like, oh my god, not newspapers, you're 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.080 making a lot. But uh, the first week I did it, 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:27.040 I read immediate regret. When the guy said to me, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.559 you sound like you should be caught in pepperoni on 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:36.600 the Italian market. I was like, I'm a journalist, an 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:41.000 English major, and like, nobody can't you know used to 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:46.720 be coming pepperoni, dude, let's let's because I always getting 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.560 annoyed Anthony, because you know, you have a very distinctive cadence, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.319 which is great I think it's wonderful and it's it's authentic. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.680 But there there are some guys that do this that 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.840 are the professional deep voice talk radio host and those 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.040 guys just always getting it. It's just weird. It feels 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.240 weird to me. You gotta to me, you gotta have 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.800 a little a little more personality to it that you 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.040 can't be just a big voice. You gotta go up 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.320 and down right like your voice go up with excitement 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.280 when you're truly into something, and then you know it's 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:19.319 a Cadie, right, isn't it? Isn't it like a um? 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.439 You know, if you think about a song, right, your 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.120 voice should be up and down should be it shouldn't 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.000 be just flat right like either as good as you 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.120 know you listen. There's some great people in our business. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:34.800 We have blessed pikes that you know, you can introduce movies, 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.319 you know in a town long ago. You know. But 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:46.640 I think I wonder he is there sub success exactly exactly. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.960 You don't want to have the monotone voice and it 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.679 is a musical instrument that that's all we have in 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.040 talk radio is our voice. We don't have anything else. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.760 We play bumper music for thirty seconds or something like that. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.400 But it's it's all about the del me. But when 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.880 you made the transition, I know, back in the old 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.559 days when I got into radio, there was like a 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:10.040 cold war when I would cover games between the newspaper 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.640 guys and the radio guys, and they didn't like each other, 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:14.319 and there was a lot of a lot of fighting 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.240 and stuff like that. So when you made the transition, 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.319 were you supported by your friends who were journalists or 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:20.840 were they like, what are you doing? Why are you 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.440 doing that? Yeah? I got a lot of that what 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.760 are you doing? You Jordan, the dark side? You're in that. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.720 Luckily I always kept it real with people like I, 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.360 you know, I like people by nature saw you know, 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.400 and so I generally was just more ball breaking than 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.400 you know, serious. But there were like a couple of guys. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.880 One guy who actually liked he got along with shut 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.680 me out, man, I was I was the true enemy, 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.680 and I'm like, yo, dude, you know, let me say, guy, listen, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.200 I respect that what you did, what you do because 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.040 I did it so and I wouldn't steal your stuff 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.240 like a lot of time times they would be upset 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.760 with that, will blame them where you take somebody story 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.320 here it on the air, and I like to make 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.240 And I know you're like this where you know, you 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.600 give credit Billity, you give exactly where your source material is, 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:15.920 who you got it from, if you if you got 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.600 it from somebody else, you read something. You gave him 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.600 some love for doing the game. And I think that's 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.920 why a lot of newspaper guys fell a certain way. Plus, 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.880 you know, you go from doing the same job and 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.280 all of a sudden it's a very public thing. It's 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.920 like this and jealousy involved there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.080 there's and there's more money, as you said in radio 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.600 than there is in Journalisabeth, you worked at the New 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.840 York Post, and that I love the New York Post. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.480 I've never lived in New York. My brother lives in 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.319 New York. But I loved the Post. I've read it 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:52.680 online for years and years and years. So what what 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.080 was it like behind the scenes, how they make the 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.280 hot dogs at the at the New York Post? Anthony 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.560 was it may It was the greatest shot. So I 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:06.640 had the greatest job that you can have in newspapers. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.960 So I initially started covering the Mets, which was the 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.600 worst job, all right, you saw a lot of bad 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.400 baseball alright, Like it was like they were in terrible. 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.400 So then I went from doing that to write and 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.280 we had a we got a Sunday newspaper. Murdoch bought 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.440 back in the paper and we added a Sunday edition 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.400 and so they needed someone to write like five thousand 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:40.160 words stories. So I became, uh that writer along with 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:44.600 doing all other stuff like if the next played the Heat, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.640 I covered the Heat in the playoffs, right, So I 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.640 would always do the national stuff, which meant I was 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:54.240 on the road like three hundred nights a year. And 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.360 the only I love. My editor was a great guy 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.360 named Greg Gallo, and he used to get it at 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.440 me because I love to write and I love to 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.080 kind of string words together and I find it like 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.680 artistic and whatever. And he seelling me take your bake 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:18.560 panties off, or your right a right Anthony. But it 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:22.120 was awesome because I used to be like, they go 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.800 where you at. I go. I'm in l A. And 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.720 they're like, why don't you go off to Portland's go 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.880 up to cover this game, cover that, go write about this, 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.840 And I would give my geas and and I would 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.160 just Globetrot and I covered a lot of boxing and 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.200 I would write these long pieces and I got to 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.480 go hang with Jordan for two weeks. I just following 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.280 the bulls as as they were the rock stars, right, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:51.080 you know, with all the coaches, pat Riley, you know, 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.560 Phil Parcel, like I do all kinds of stuff like. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.760 It was interesting. It was a really cool job that 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:02.840 you learned as a journalist. You're you're really inquisitive, like, 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.520 which is why I love doing that job because I 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.360 learned so many different things. I met so many different people, 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.320 and I wasn't I didn't had to criticize him. I 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.920 was just writing stories. So it was more like a 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:20.240 profile of tell you know something, and so they lay 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.200 into their world. You got have pancakes and down at 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.800 the mc NAB's houses Chicago, and you know, you do 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.640 all kinds of things with people, and it was it 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.920 was a lot of fun. It was more it was 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.560 fun because it was artistic, but it was also fun 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.280 because you got to me only. I love to travel, 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.760 so I was on the road all the time. I 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.040 would sit next to Ben Mallor at events. That's right, 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.680 we sat together for the people doing the story. The 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.880 Dodger Phillies game years ago. I was trying to think 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.280 what year that was. Everything runs together for me, Anthony, 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.840 though I don't like before you before you turned into 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:58.360 a movie star. You look like, Yeah, well I might 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.400 have been a lot heavier at that particular a moment 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.119 in time as I trying to remember exactly when that was, 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.400 But uh was that? That wasn't like the Matt Stairs 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.960 time was it was that before that? It was a 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:15.520 Matt Stairs. Oh my god, as Joe Buck says, oh 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.480 my god, great one of the great moments in Philly 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.840 Sports issue, one of the worst for the for the Dodgers. 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:24.760 There into the upper part of the pavilion. I was pissed. Yeah, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.200 I was. I was. I thought that team man Joe 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.359 Tory was the manager of the Dodgers, that was the 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.119 team was going to get to the World Series and 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.560 then had to wait another twelve years or whatever, thirteen 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.400 years whatever it was too to get back. But that 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.639 was insane, man, That was in uh crazy time. But 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:42.840 when you were I would go by to the post. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:44.600 So you're working on the post, like, how does it work? 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.600 You tell me how this works? They give you a 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.679 company credit card. You just do whatever you want or 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.159 do you have to check back. And back then it 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:57.800 was awesome because back then the budget for the Sports department, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:03.879 the travel budget was three million dollars. So you know 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.320 that's late nineties, early two thousands, right, so you know 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:11.600 we could go everywhere. I mean there was no listen 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.800 and I was I and I stayed in my hotels. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.320 I didn galage them, but I stayed. I traveled nicely. 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.560 And then you build up all those points Marriott Hill 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.399 and you name it airline miles. You know I'm going 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.320 I'm traveling to Europe for free because I was on 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.879 the road so much and then you know everything. The 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.480 only thing I would have is that to have these expenses, 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.840 actually have to felt your expense report. So I would 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.080 be on the road more than anybody. So I would 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.880 come home and I was I'm not the most I'm 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.639 like Oscar Madison when it comes to, you know, keeping 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:49.080 all the receipts and everything. So I got crumpled up 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:53.280 this in the hotel receipts before everything was online. And 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.600 then so I'm trying to make heads tails of it. 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.600 Oh yeah, I'm in Denver this day. Oh wait, did 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.399 I spend a hundred miles at the bar. I can't, 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.120 I can't do that one, all right, what about this one? 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.720 And you know, and you're putting together your expense report. 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.879 But it was it was crazy. It was wild. I 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.959 mean I used to man, I my travel alone was like, 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:17.120 you know, ten times my salary my travel. So did 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.360 you know, now, Anthony, I, Anthony, I remember. I think 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.400 it was Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe. I had 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.880 heard a story from a writer that he had like 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:30.120 the most Marriott points of all time, Like he had 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.000 stayed at the Marriott, so you know, that was the 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.439 only hotel chain that he would stay at when he traveled. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.800 And he worked at the Boston Globe forever, and he 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.600 had this massive amount of Marriott points where he could 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.600 have just gone anywhere. I assumed you had a similar 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.199 massive amount there. Did you stay at the same hotel 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:48.800 chain all the time or would you change it up 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.080 and stay at different hotels? No? I you know, I 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.000 stayed at the same hotel. And it's funny because it's 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.879 true I had a massive amount. And probably Bob ran 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:01.960 because he coached, um, he covered the NBA, so I'm 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.280 sure he did a lot more playoff the whole thing. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:09.199 But it was the greatest because I mean they treated 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:14.840 you like golds. Like dude, you know, there was uh 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.440 baskets of fruit and all kinds of things in my room. 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:20.840 Like I had a buddy of mine, so I'm like 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.000 in my twenties, I got a body of mine who 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.600 worked for an airline. He flew for free, so he 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:28.760 we would meet everywhere. Like I got a dude, I'm 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.880 going to I'm going to Denver. So then I would 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.840 get in my room and I had the upgraded suite. 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.000 He'd come to hang out, and there was a time 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.000 where he looked at the basket and he sees a 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:44.119 thing of hummus and he goes, Yo, dude takes some 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:47.679 hummus and he throws the hummus. I don't know if 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:53.240 he's doing that, and it hits my laptop. Bust my laptop. 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.560 Now I gotta go get a new laptop. I was 0:20:56.680 --> 0:21:01.800 covered like broncos jet and whole thing floated off for 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.840 the humus that I got for free at the Marriott 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:09.720 in the bandsket. Be sure to catch live editions of 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.760 The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.320 pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:20.880 Radio app. So you were remember that movie from about 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:24.359 ten twelve? Was it within the last fifteen years that 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.840 it was the movie that George Clooney was up in 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.639 there like that? Was you right? You were up in 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:35.000 the air? Man, you were just flying. I kept at 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.840 a fun job. He was. His job was the fire people. 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.400 Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.639 Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:47.080 on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.119 Another time I was in Denver. I get woken up. 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.040 There's a knock on my door. Now, you know, I 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.640 had to go out at night, right, So I wake up. I'm, 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.040 you know, in the room work city on Man. I 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:03.800 opened the door. I see this beautiful girl right in 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:10.120 my doorway. I'm going, who she says Anthony, I go, yeah, 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.880 she was, Can I come in? I was like yeah, 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.120 you know, like I don't know. I rubbed the band 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:20.440 and brush my teeth. Right. What was does she takes 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:24.800 over her her? It was like a jacket was winter 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:30.159 was doing the playoffs and she's got like Alazer outfit on, 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:33.400 and I'm gonna wait a second, what's going on? There 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.600 and she was hot, cause Betty like she was hot. 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.760 I'm going away, something's up, right, And then she says, 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.879