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Speaker 1: V was it was a very political guy and he

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Speaker 1: was always trying to win you over again whatever whatever

429
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Speaker 1: way to use you. He tried to use you. He

430
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Speaker 1: once had time of a sort of who I love

431
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Speaker 1: carn me up and say, y'all you gotta go ease.

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Speaker 1: You m the you know work with Bobby V. What's you?

433
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Speaker 1: And I was friends with the this hitting instructor that

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Speaker 1: was under Dallas Green staff. Anyway, long story, I picked

435
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Speaker 1: up they fired him and I and I picked up

436
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: for him, and we got into a shouting match. And

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Speaker 1: in fact, one of the Mets players, Johnny Franco, says no,

438
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Speaker 1: because there's a Franklin then if you died his I

439
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Speaker 1: We're screaming yellow at each other. Two astros Can Cavin

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Speaker 1: Nitty and who was the other guy? I had to

441
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Speaker 1: be the second baseman who was yeah? And Cavin Ny

442
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Speaker 1: and BJR walking by, and then the next thing, you know,

443
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Speaker 1: because they were playing the Astros and and Tom McGraw

444
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Speaker 1: was with the Astros. Now that's right. I walk into

445
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Speaker 1: the other clubhouse and then Cavin Inny goes, mom, man,

446
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Speaker 1: you dude, I was going to knock out Bobby V

447
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Speaker 1: I started, Hey, Bunny, Bobby say, well, like he he

448
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: was a colorful dude. But there was a lot of

449
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: guys that, you know, we would they yell at you.

450
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Speaker 1: I remember being definitely afraid of ourselves, but he would

451
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Speaker 1: scream at you. And then you know, when you're a

452
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Speaker 1: young reporter and you gotta go ourselves, Like, you know,

453
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, who am I to be challenging this dude

454
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Speaker 1: about football? Right? Yeah? You know, like they're they're it's

455
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: the bullie pulpit. Back then, it was way more like

456
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: in your face. Now it's more docile or it's more

457
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: social media driven, where you know, there's Twitter beefs. Back then,

458
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: they were like real be I remember seeing guys fighting, fits, fighting,

459
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Speaker 1: knocking people out. It was crazy. Yeah. Yeah, so you

460
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Speaker 1: you covered the Mets in the were you there? We

461
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Speaker 1: were there when Dallas Green was there, and then obviously

462
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Speaker 1: Bobby Valentine there one of my favorite New York Post headlines.

463
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Speaker 1: I was doing stuff with the Dodgers and they were

464
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Speaker 1: playing the Mets in the midnight and the Rico Bronier

465
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Speaker 1: years of the Mets, and when he was I went

466
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Speaker 1: to Watertown, Connecticut to do a story where he was from,

467
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Speaker 1: and I ate with his parents. That's great, it's random.

468
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Speaker 1: I love that. So it was like Rico Bronia and

469
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Speaker 1: Todd Hunley and the Mets were terrible, and uh, they

470
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Speaker 1: had traded for Jeff Kent, who at that time was

471
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Speaker 1: like a you know, he would come over from the

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Speaker 1: Blue Jays and then I think he was the David

473
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Speaker 1: Con trade. He'd been there for a little bit, but

474
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Speaker 1: he was like a utility guy when he started with

475
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Speaker 1: the Mets, and I remember they moved him positions and

476
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Speaker 1: and against the Dodgers and he had like a bunch

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Speaker 1: of errors on It was like it was like a

478
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Speaker 1: Saturday day game and he butchered the ball. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: So so anyway, it was he was terrible and the

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Speaker 1: fans were booing. You know, it was ter It was hot,

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Speaker 1: you know, August and the planes are flying over the

482
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Speaker 1: landing at Laguardy. It was a nightmare. So so they

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Speaker 1: interviewed you. Probably a guy that did it interviewed Dallas

484
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Speaker 1: Green and he made some flip it remark about Jeff

485
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Speaker 1: Kent's defense, and the headline on the post the next

486
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Speaker 1: day was Kent Field and then it was great and

487
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Speaker 1: it had a picture of him bobbling the ball on

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Speaker 1: the back page and then it said, you know, Dallas

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Speaker 1: Green's quote was like, uh, something like I forget I'm paraphrasing,

490
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Speaker 1: but it was like he was as bad at third

491
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Speaker 1: base as he was a second or somebody was great.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome. He just buried the guy. I loved

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Speaker 1: it Field. Yeah, it was all that. Yeah, it was

494
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Speaker 1: the best. It was all sides of stuff. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you one du And so I'm in spring training. I

496
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Speaker 1: was I was dating this girl and I'm I'm sitting

497
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Speaker 1: next we're at it. There was only one place to

498
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Speaker 1: go was Port St. Lucy and and so we're at

499
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Speaker 1: this at this bar in Port St. Luci And next thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, alex Ochoa remember that name, and yes, all right,

501
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: or don't Yese had just affected from Cuba and they

502
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Speaker 1: were in there and I knew Alex and there was

503
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Speaker 1: somebody else too. Anyway, the girl I was with, let's

504
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Speaker 1: say she was welling down and she and and so

505
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Speaker 1: you know, it was whatever. She was a lovely lady.

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Speaker 1: He starts saying stuff in Spanish and she starts turning red.

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Speaker 1: Now she was Spanish, and she understood him right like

508
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Speaker 1: so and then then she gives me the the interpretation,

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Speaker 1: right like, she gives me what he said in translation

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Speaker 1: and enter the translation. It was pretty loose, right, so

511
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Speaker 1: you know, I started barking at him, I'm gonna break

512
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Speaker 1: your you know, your au mission that you're never gonna

513
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: play shortstop blah blah blah blah blah. You know, with

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Speaker 1: one of those. It was crazy, but it was funny,

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Speaker 1: right like, you know, and then I'm gonna gonna bust

516
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Speaker 1: I gonna buck stop in shortstop. I don't track with

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Speaker 1: any apology. It was no big deal. But it was

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Speaker 1: just funny, how you know, like it's just real life.

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00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: Back then, it was really real life. I had. I

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Speaker 1: got a buddy of mine, in fact, was the Sixers

521
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: equipment manager for like thirty five years, and he goes, dude,

522
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Speaker 1: he goes, the difference. When I first started, he started

523
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Speaker 1: like eight mintage AI years right, like, you know, crazy

524
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: stuff the end of Barkley and Ai today, He's like,

525
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Speaker 1: the biggest difference is the noise. Back then, when you're

526
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Speaker 1: going on a bus plane, all the guys are together,

527
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: it's loud, and guys are mocking each other, having phone

528
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: breaking stone, busting stone, the whole thing. And now everybody's

529
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Speaker 1: just on locked phone or headphones, and it's so different

530
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: and just dudes way more like Plug did professional whereas

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Speaker 1: back then it was like, you know insanity. Yeah, Ai

532
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: falling asleep outside his hotel room, like outside the door

533
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Speaker 1: of his room, curled up in the ball in the hallway,

534
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: sticking enough just to in the hallway. You bring up

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Speaker 1: a muld have been at five o'clock in the morning.

536
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: You know, everybody in the game that day, he didn't matter.

537
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: You know. That's the amazing thing about ball players and anything.

538
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: I traveled a little bit with the Dodgers back in

539
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Speaker 1: the day, and I was a young guy and they

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Speaker 1: kind of embraced me, some of the guys in the bullpen,

541
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Speaker 1: so they take me. I got to tag along with

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Speaker 1: them and go out a few times. You know, I'm

543
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: not I'm an introver. You're you're an extrovert Anthony. I'm

544
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: an introvert, so for me, this was like an eye

545
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: opening experience and I loved it. I have great memories

546
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: of that, but I was amazed. I was in my

547
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: probably late twenties at this time, maybe mid twenties. So

548
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 1: I'm traveling with the team and you know occasionally and

549
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: they take me out and uh, it was actually in

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Speaker 1: New York one of the trips, and these guys were out.

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Speaker 1: We were they were club hopping, you name it, bars,

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00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: strip clubs. Got back to the hotel at you know,

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00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: it was after the sun had risen. It was a

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00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: little after like six in the morning, something like that,

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00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: and I'm just beat and the dot. The Dodgers had

556
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: a day game with the Mets that day, and so

557
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: we you know, go out to the ballpark and I'm

558
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: having like a zombie and the guys I was hanging

559
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: out with that were completely slashed that we're just boosting

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00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: it up. Uh, And I said, well, those guys can't

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00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: pitch today, and uh, they got called. You know, one

562
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: of the guys got called into the game and even

563
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: like a one, two, three inning. I couldn't believe it.

564
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is amazing to me

565
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: that these guys are able to perform after living that life.

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00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: It was just a few hours earlier we were out

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00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: and getting back in a taxi cab getting back to

568
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: the hotels and saying, how those guys are wired that way?

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Speaker 1: The truth man, you know, I listen, I saw a

570
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: Stone drunk one night, right blacked out of his mind

571
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: and he a vegs day dropping forty wanted at a

572
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: new game, right, like just incredible, such a great player.

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00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: It's true, like those dudes that you know that was

574
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: that was like a right of passage too for a

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00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: lot of guys. You want to out you you know,

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00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: you shampled the town. It was very more. It was

577
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: a lot of social now where it hurts who was

578
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: obviously longevity its found, pick care of their bodies. And

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00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: you know you can look at Brady and that's why

580
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: he's so great. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't go

581
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: out much. He's get some some interesting things. As far

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Speaker 1: as the great fruit that you mentioned Port St. Lucy,

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Speaker 1: I got a great story of out there. Anthony all

584
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: appreciate this because spending a lot of time in Florida

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Speaker 1: for spring training. So when I was doing stuff with

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers. They had an executive, Tommy Hawkins, the great

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00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: Tommy Hawkins, wonderful guy, played in the NBA. Great guy,

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00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: very personal guy. And we were in Virio Beach and

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00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: I've never been to Viria Beach before, and so Tommy's

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00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: given the lay of the Loveland you know, I was

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00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: I was doing radio there and I had we were

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Speaker 1: doing it back to l A. So it was late

593
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: at night, but on the weekends we had some time

594
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: to go out and try to mingle. And I was

595
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Speaker 1: single and the guy was doing the show with were single.

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00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: So we asked Tommy Tommy Hawkins were like, hey, where

597
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: should we go? And Tommy named this bar in in

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Speaker 1: Vero Beach. He said, this is the place, this is

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00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: the place everyone goes to. Uh, you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: few miles away from Dodgertown. Go there, have a have

601
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Speaker 1: a great time. Boy, there's beautiful people where. He's really

602
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Speaker 1: selling it. So we're all excited. My, my, me and

603
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: this guy Dave that I was doing the show, and

604
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: so we show up to the bar and we're thinking, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be great. You know, we were in Florida. Here,

606
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Speaker 1: beautiful women, the whole thing, and the youngest we're in

607
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Speaker 1: our mid twenties. The youngest woman in there was I

608
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: think like sixty four or something like that was it

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00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: was insane. We were like, wait a minute, what that

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00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: That was the young hip spot in uh in Florida,

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00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: at least in that part in Via b There was

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00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: not going on socially there in Vio Beach. Anthony Beck

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00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: in those dodge in town, Yeah, man, that was. That

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00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: was a great place. They've been in Florida now for

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00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: like twenty years or something like that. A lot of

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Speaker 1: it's crazy how fast time guys goes by. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays

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626
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: your podcast. But you mentioned the movies. I gotta get

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00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: into that anything. I don't know a lot about this.

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00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: So you've written screenplays and whatnot for for Hollywood, and

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Speaker 1: and like, how's that? How's that work exactly? Have you

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Speaker 1: had anything big picked up that I don't know about

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Speaker 1: that I shouldn't know about. Uh. Well, we did a

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Speaker 1: movie called I don't know if you've heard it. It's

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Speaker 1: called The Mighty Max, The Mighty Max. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: it was. It's about the first female um uh basketball team,

635
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Speaker 1: Maculotti University cafee Rush who um made a really cool,

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Speaker 1: really really really cool who uh say, won the first

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Speaker 1: women's national championship. Her husband was Eddie Rush, the referee,

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00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: and it was cool. So anyway, we did that movie.

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Speaker 1: I have a couple. I had a lot of camp mrs.

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Speaker 1: And I got a lot of mrs. And I got

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Speaker 1: a couple right now that are hot, and I think

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Speaker 1: we got a shot. One is called The Bottom, which

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Speaker 1: is it's about loosely based off of the group called

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Speaker 1: the Junior Black Mafia in Philadelphia in the eighties. Gangster movie.

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Speaker 1: And I got another another show, a TV show that's

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Speaker 1: getting traction. Um it's called in Blood. It's imagine it's

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Speaker 1: the seving is nineties six Philadelphia, and it's a precursor

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Speaker 1: to the jb M. And it's Game of Thrones meets

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Speaker 1: like Scarface, right, so it's beats the Godfather. So it's

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Speaker 1: got uh, Italian gangsters and African American gangsters and Jewish

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Speaker 1: gangsters and the whole crowd of this world of bikers

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Speaker 1: that really existed in Philadelphia. They all intersected during the

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Speaker 1: seventies and eighties, um when casino gambling comes Atlantic City.

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Speaker 1: So I had known a lot of these characters growing

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Speaker 1: up there, and so I wrote these pieces pretty authentic

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Speaker 1: and it's pretty cool. So I think we got a

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Speaker 1: I think we got a good shot at that's supposedly happening.

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Speaker 1: I got more, I'm hoping, but we'll see. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: so how's it where you have an agent or I assume,

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Speaker 1: how do you sell these things? What's the what's the

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Speaker 1: key is selling the producer? O. There's a producer that

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Speaker 1: that's that deals with all the studios. So I worked

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Speaker 1: with the stuff through a producer who's really well known

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Speaker 1: as a bunch of projects. So it's the producer. They're

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Speaker 1: the ones that I'm just the writer. I'm just the

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm the nobody that comes up with the

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Speaker 1: story and writes the story and then you know, hopefully,

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Speaker 1: but the one supposed to go in the pre production suits.

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Speaker 1: So we're we're it's it's a long grind and we

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Speaker 1: got shut down by COVID, so it's it's it's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: But I love the film world. I love film. I

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Speaker 1: love story. That's probably my true passion, which is other

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Speaker 1: than sports, which is storytelling. And are you more nonfiction

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Speaker 1: as opposed to fiction when you're writing this stuff or

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Speaker 1: is it either way? Go either way? Yeah, either way,

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Speaker 1: And the fiction people like anytime you write it. Um,

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Speaker 1: since it's not a documentary, you know, you're you're gonna

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to take literary license to make the

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00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: story really you know, a lot more interesting. And that's

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Speaker 1: sort of that's so to speak. But um, but the

681
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: great stuff is is that when you meld a reporting

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Speaker 1: background with creative writing, it gives you a lot. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was I was at a couple of jails.

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Speaker 1: I was up in a couple of you know safe

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Speaker 1: houses that the thaying rooms, talking to these old you

686
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Speaker 1: know retired or whatever, gangsters, and you get stuff that

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Speaker 1: you can't even make up, right, Like the beauty is

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Speaker 1: if you know, when you really like research the story

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Speaker 1: and talk to those that lived in you get stuff

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Speaker 1: that you you realize you can't even make up. If

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Speaker 1: they trust you, they they into the world. It's it's

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Speaker 1: really kind of cool. So, I mean some of the

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Speaker 1: stories I I barely even have to dress up for

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Speaker 1: cinem You just gotta organize and put them together in

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Speaker 1: a narrative form. But it's it's really interesting. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a pretty cool. That's cool. That's cool. I

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Speaker 1: think what we need, Anthony, is like a you should

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Speaker 1: write a movie about sports talk radio. There's gotta be

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Speaker 1: something in sports radio that and you can go on

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Speaker 1: the big screen and give it the make it a thriller,

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Speaker 1: you know, like a caller. I've had I've had guys

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Speaker 1: on my show, Anthony. I had a guy in Chicago

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Speaker 1: that sent me a bloody goat head in the mail

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Speaker 1: because he was a big He thought the Cubs were

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Speaker 1: jenks the curse of the Billy goat, and so he

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Speaker 1: bought part of a goat farm. This guy doc Mike

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Speaker 1: and sent me bloody goat actually a couple of bloody

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Speaker 1: goat heads. It got to a point, yeah, it got yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so it got to a point Anthony where the

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Speaker 1: mail people at Fox at I Heart here in l A,

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Speaker 1: We're We're like, we can't accept mail for you because

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Speaker 1: it was like there was like stuff coming out of

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Speaker 1: the box that was disgusting and they were like, you know,

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Speaker 1: so so I had to tell the guy said, you

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Speaker 1: gotta stop sending this because I'm getting in trouble with

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Speaker 1: the mail rooms. So what are you doing? And uh,

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Speaker 1: it was it was a nightmare. But anyway, I've kept

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Speaker 1: you for way too long, Anthony, I love you, man.

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Speaker 1: And and and now promote promote promoto. You're on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio obviously on the weekends, but that's on Saturday, right,

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Speaker 1: He's still on Saturday. And then what about the radio

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Speaker 1: show in Philly if the fans want to listen to

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Speaker 1: you on your local show with the Anthony Gargani Agano Show, right,

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Speaker 1: which is what mid days in Philly? Is that? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: chen am the two pm Eastern time Ninete five The Fanatic.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm at Anthony el Gargano on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: uh at Anthony el Gargano on Instagram. So, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate keep an eye on maybe the movie ship and

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Speaker 1: I would love for you to talk about and we

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Speaker 1: we talk further about it. But Betty, I love you, man,

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Speaker 1: You're you're just great people. Oh you're good too. Man.

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Speaker 1: I love you, and I'm glad we met years ago.

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Speaker 1: And when you become the the movie hits and you'll

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Speaker 1: be out of the red carpet and in Hollywood, I'll

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Speaker 1: go hang out with you. We'll go to Google schmooz.

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Speaker 1: It's all right, all right, man, Thank you, Anthony