WEBVTT - The HowStuffWorks Story Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>Text with technology with tech stuff from how stuff works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tex Stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>am your host, Jonathan Strickland, executive producer here at how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff Works. And our previous episode was number nine hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>which by my math makes this one and one. And

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<v Speaker 1>in episode nine I talked about the founding of how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works and how it changed since it first started.

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<v Speaker 1>Back is the first part of the how stuff Works story.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you've not heard that, go here that and

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<v Speaker 1>then come back here and I will I will make

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<v Speaker 1>you hear other things about how stuff works because in

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<v Speaker 1>that other episode I focus mostly on the website side

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<v Speaker 1>of the story. That is the older part of the business,

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<v Speaker 1>the thousands and thousands of articles about all sorts of subjects,

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<v Speaker 1>heavily researched and expertly written. So if you're not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with how stupworks dot com, I recommend you go check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. But in this episode I'm going to focus

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<v Speaker 1>more on the podcast side of the business. How stupp

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<v Speaker 1>works podcasts got their start in two thousand eight, so

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<v Speaker 1>ten years after the founding of the website itself. The

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<v Speaker 1>original idea is that we would launch our shows to

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<v Speaker 1>complement that website, so episodes were meant to be very

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<v Speaker 1>short and to cover an article that you could find

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<v Speaker 1>over at how stupp works dot com. This was thought

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<v Speaker 1>of as a brand extension, right. It wasn't a way

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<v Speaker 1>to make money. It wasn't like an article where we

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<v Speaker 1>would serve up web advertising against the article. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no plan to monetize the podcast when they first began,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was not really an easy way to do

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<v Speaker 1>it if we wanted to. So in other words, this

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<v Speaker 1>was essentially a marketing expense. We were operating the podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>at a loss. It costs money to host podcasts, so

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<v Speaker 1>we were spending on the shows, but there was no

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<v Speaker 1>way to directly make that money back at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that we were allow to launch the shows

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<v Speaker 1>and choose what to put on there and keep making

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<v Speaker 1>them for years it's pretty amazing now. Conal Byrne, who

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<v Speaker 1>was the managing director at how stuff Works at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>was the guy who said, hey, we should be doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>and he approached several of us about starting shows in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight. I was eager to jump on board.

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<v Speaker 1>I had been listening to podcasts for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years and one of my favorites was c nets Buzz

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<v Speaker 1>Out Loud, which was a show that hasn't existed for

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<v Speaker 1>several years now. I miss it a lot. Molly Wood

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<v Speaker 1>and tom Merritt and lots of other hosts have been

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<v Speaker 1>part of that, and they were phenomenal. They gave tech

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<v Speaker 1>news really cool context and commentary, and I loved their delivery.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was eager to give this a try myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and I jumped at the chance to be in on

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<v Speaker 1>the launch of a technology themed podcast. Now, out of

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<v Speaker 1>all the folks who started podcasting at that time, there

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<v Speaker 1>are only a few of us who had a background

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<v Speaker 1>in performance. Most of the people who started podcasts were

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<v Speaker 1>coming at it from a researcher and writer perspective, but

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<v Speaker 1>not someone who would typically perform on microphone. They were

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<v Speaker 1>not I mean, they had personalities, but they were not personalities.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a difference. Also, there's a term that is

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<v Speaker 1>frequently used in the industry to describe people who are

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<v Speaker 1>podcasters besides jerks. It's the term is talent. And boy

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<v Speaker 1>does that feel pretentious to be called the talent, as

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<v Speaker 1>if everybody else who works on this isn't talented, That

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<v Speaker 1>is patent lee untrue. I have had a sweet, a

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<v Speaker 1>veritable army of talented people who have made my show

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<v Speaker 1>and the other shows at How Stuff Works possible and

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<v Speaker 1>sound great and go out on time. So I object

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<v Speaker 1>to being called the talent, but that is another common

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<v Speaker 1>term for it. At any rate, none of us at

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<v Speaker 1>that time were the talent. We were talented, just not

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<v Speaker 1>We weren't meant for for performing in on top of microphones.

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<v Speaker 1>We would instead do research and write an article and

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<v Speaker 1>submit it and get edits back, and then work on

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<v Speaker 1>those edits and submit it again. That's that's how we worked.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you listen to some of those old episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>those first few of any given show, you might notice

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<v Speaker 1>some hesitancy, some uncertainty of how to talk into a

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<v Speaker 1>microphone and how to relate to an audience that isn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>But most of us, in fact, I would say, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who's still around, picked up on it pretty well and

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<v Speaker 1>now does an amazing job of it. Myself excluded, I've

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<v Speaker 1>always done an amazing job. Now. Four shows launched that

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<v Speaker 1>summer of two thousand and eight to extend the presence

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<v Speaker 1>of How Stuff Works into podcast land. Those four shows

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<v Speaker 1>where Stuff You Should Know Factor Fiction, which would later

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<v Speaker 1>become Stuff You Missed in History Class, Brain Stuff, which

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<v Speaker 1>was hosted by the site founder, Marshall brain and Tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>All four of those shows still exist, though brain Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>has changed the most in format since it started. Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>You Missed In History Class has had several hosts throughout

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<v Speaker 1>its own history. Only two people have remained co hosts

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<v Speaker 1>or hosts of their respective shows since the launch of

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<v Speaker 1>those first four shows. Those two people are Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>the co host of Stuff You Should Know, and me,

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<v Speaker 1>host of Tech Stuff. We are the only two original

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<v Speaker 1>hosts from that original slate of shows who are still

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<v Speaker 1>hosting those shows, and I will have Josh Clark on

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<v Speaker 1>this episode a little bit later. Now. Over time, the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast transformed from brand extension marketing to revenue generating shows,

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<v Speaker 1>so in other words, we started selling ad spots and

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<v Speaker 1>getting sponsorships. These days, the podcas ask business is a

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<v Speaker 1>big one, so much so that were now considered a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast network company. And this change was a gradual one,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also a really big one. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hard to communicate to anyone outside of how stuff works.

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<v Speaker 1>How enormous a change this was. When I first started

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<v Speaker 1>at the company, we didn't even have podcasts, not at

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. I mean they existed, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any. Later, we were considered a website that also

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<v Speaker 1>did podcasts these days were a podcast company. So I

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<v Speaker 1>started off as a staff writer, I became a senior writer,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I'm a podcast executive producer and host. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an interesting journey because there was no career

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<v Speaker 1>ladder that way when I started, because there was no department,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no podcasting. And a bit will u we'll

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<v Speaker 1>touch in with a Josh and talk about his perspective

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast business of How Stuff Works. But first

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<v Speaker 1>I thought would be fun to run down a list

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<v Speaker 1>of shows we've done over the years, a podcasts, not

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of tech Stuff. And some of these podcasts are

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<v Speaker 1>still in production. Others have been phased out, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a nice way of saying canceled. Sometimes shows are canceled

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<v Speaker 1>because we failed to get a good, strong audience. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we have to cancel them when we realize the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of work it takes to put into the show is

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<v Speaker 1>so much that we cannot do other things that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to do. Sometimes it's because people who are working

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<v Speaker 1>on the show move on to go work somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of different reasons, so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like we have a cruel taskmaster who is watching a

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<v Speaker 1>needle and if the needle doesn't get out of the

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<v Speaker 1>red in a certain amount of time, they just say

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<v Speaker 1>out the door with you. I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys realize that. So we're gonna start with

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<v Speaker 1>the big one, the first of all the podcasts to

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<v Speaker 1>launch in two thousand and eight, that would be Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>You should Know. It's still our most popular show by far.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the the flagship, the rock star of the

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<v Speaker 1>house stuff Works Network, and it's helmed by Josh Clark

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<v Speaker 1>and Chuck Bryant. At least it is today. Back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, Josh Clark hosted with a couple of other

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<v Speaker 1>folks on early episodes. He'll talk about that a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later. And typically they choose an article and how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works, and they each do some supplemental research looking

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<v Speaker 1>into other sources on their own, and then they meet

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<v Speaker 1>up to have a conversation about the subject matter. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't share their notes, they don't share their research. They

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<v Speaker 1>just sit down at the table and what you hear

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast is their conversation it's a really effective

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<v Speaker 1>and engaging approach. Their chemistry is undeniable. They've posted more

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<v Speaker 1>than a thousand episodes of their show since it launched

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eight, and they covered pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>any topic imaginable, though they tend to leave the technological

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<v Speaker 1>ones to me. We published several episodes of stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>Should Know at once so that people would have multiple

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<v Speaker 1>episodes to listen to right out of the gate. So

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<v Speaker 1>on April two thousand eight, the first three episodes to

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<v Speaker 1>come out were how grass Aline Works, How lame Ducks Work,

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<v Speaker 1>and how Altruism Works. Stuff You Missed in History Class

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<v Speaker 1>Today is hosted by Tracy V. Wilson and Holly Fry,

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<v Speaker 1>though numerous other hosts have helmed the show in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and they take a deep dive on interesting, obscure, or

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise overlooked historical events and give them real context and explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>We guess, out of all of our shows that we

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<v Speaker 1>produce here at the company, that's the one that requires

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<v Speaker 1>the most in depth research. And my hat is off

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<v Speaker 1>to them, because I do about eight hours of research

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<v Speaker 1>per hour of tech stuff that you hear. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they do even more than that because it requires it

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<v Speaker 1>to to find out as many sources about these historical

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<v Speaker 1>events as possible and corroborate with other sources to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that they are communicating the most accurate information. The

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<v Speaker 1>first episode of Stuff You Missed in his Street Class

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<v Speaker 1>was did Genghis Khan really kill one million, seven forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight thousand people in one hour? And that it published

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<v Speaker 1>on June nine, two eight. Now you know all about

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff. It's the show you're listening to right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But originally tech Stuff was a two person show and

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<v Speaker 1>my editor, Chris Pallette was my co host and the

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<v Speaker 1>purveyor of puns. If you think my puns are bad,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to listen to some old shows. Our first

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<v Speaker 1>episode was and I'm embarrassed to say this, how the

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<v Speaker 1>Google Apple Cloud computer will work? Yeah. I published on

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<v Speaker 1>June tenth, two thousand eight. So our show is one

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<v Speaker 1>day younger than Stuff You Missed Industry Class. There show

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<v Speaker 1>came out the day before ours. Brain Stuff was originally

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<v Speaker 1>hosted by Marshall Brain that is his real name, and

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes were really really short, like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>minutes each When it first came out. Each one would

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<v Speaker 1>answer a question and a quick overviews such as how

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<v Speaker 1>Nano Solar Works. That shows still around, and I hear

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<v Speaker 1>that there are some interesting ideas that might be happening

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<v Speaker 1>with brain Stuff in the near future. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't listened for a while, you may want to go

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<v Speaker 1>and subscribe. I have a feeling there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>some changes made in all sorts of interesting ways, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of experimentation. Um, but that's all I can say

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<v Speaker 1>about it because it's still in flux at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But the first episode of the show was How Stealth

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<v Speaker 1>Technology Works, and it published on July four, two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eight. Best Deal Day. Car Stuff is a show

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<v Speaker 1>with Ben Bolan and Scott Benjamin used to be called

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<v Speaker 1>High Speed Stuff and then they changed it eventually as

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<v Speaker 1>a show about vehicles, and it's really incredibly entertaining. Scott

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<v Speaker 1>is a treasure trove of car information. If you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>any of the episodes where he's been a host here

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<v Speaker 1>on tech Stuff, he has phenomenally informed about vehicles and

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<v Speaker 1>it's also fun to break his heart by talking about

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<v Speaker 1>autonomous vehicles. And then Ben, well, he's he's pretty smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben's a very funny, smart guy. He's also my arch

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<v Speaker 1>nemesis here at How Stuff Works. I declared that pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much my first month of working here, because I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to have an arch nemesis who was actually very courteous

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<v Speaker 1>and friendly and would sometimes bring me lunch. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest working folks here at the company would be

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Ben Bolan. Their first episode was How kar Theft Works,

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<v Speaker 1>which honestly does not surprise me at all because Ben

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<v Speaker 1>is also a bit shifty. It published November eight. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a second episode go live that same day titled

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<v Speaker 1>what will Luxury Car Mean? And twenty thirty so we

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<v Speaker 1>still have a few years to find out if they

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<v Speaker 1>were right about it. Chuck Bryant and John Fuller. They

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<v Speaker 1>launched a show for a while. It was called Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>from the B Side, which was all about music. I

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<v Speaker 1>miss that show a lot. You'll hear me and Josh

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that a little bit later. The podcast was

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting look at music and music product action and

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<v Speaker 1>related topics. The first episode was called How Debut Albums Work,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty clever when your first episodes about debut albums.

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<v Speaker 1>It published on December thirteenth, two thousand and eight. The

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<v Speaker 1>final episode was titled Before They Were Robots, early craft

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<v Speaker 1>Work and it published on December tenth, two thousand nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So this show lasted about a year, and it's when

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<v Speaker 1>I really wish we could bring back, and maybe someday

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<v Speaker 1>we will in some format. Then we have Stuff Mom

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<v Speaker 1>Never Told You, which was originally hosted by Kristen Conger

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<v Speaker 1>and Molly Edmonds. And I remember when Kristen and Molly

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<v Speaker 1>first pitched this show because I got to sit in

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<v Speaker 1>on some of those early recordings and I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>right away that they had an incredible idea. Molly would

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<v Speaker 1>leave the company in two eleven, with Caroline Irvin joining

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and then Kristen and Caroline did an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>job evolving the show into a strong feminist voice. Caroline

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<v Speaker 1>and Kristen left How Stuff Works in late The show

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<v Speaker 1>itself has returned and now has new hosts Emily Airies

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<v Speaker 1>and Bridge Todd. The first episode of the show ever

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<v Speaker 1>was Doo, Men and Women have different Brains. It published

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<v Speaker 1>February four, two thousand nine. I suspect the answer is yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because we can't all share the same one. On January

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<v Speaker 1>we launched a new show called Stuff from the Science Lab,

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<v Speaker 1>but we would rebrand this. This is sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>Factor Fiction. We changed the name of it. Now it

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<v Speaker 1>is known as Stuff to Blow Your Mind. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a science based podcast. It's currently hosted by Robert Lamb,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe McCormick, and Chris stout Sayer. Although our editor Alison

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<v Speaker 1>louder Milk was an original co host with Robert. Julie

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas would also host some of these episodes of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first episode ever was called Amazing Investations. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven, we launched a short lived podcast called Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to Make You Smarter. This was hosted by Rob and Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>who were not actually part of the editorial department, and

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<v Speaker 1>this show explored all sorts of various topics but didn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite last half a year. The first episode launched a

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<v Speaker 1>May second, two thousand eleven and was called of Cinema

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<v Speaker 1>and Sound The Story of Music and Film. The final

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<v Speaker 1>episode was called Can We Teach Our Children to Be

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<v Speaker 1>Bully Proof? And it published on September. So this was

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<v Speaker 1>the time when we were actually opening up the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to podcast beyond the editorial department. And it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that podcasting is it requires a lot of work, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it requires more work than you can put in

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<v Speaker 1>and still do your regular job at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>So that I suspect was the reason why this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being canceled about six months in from its launch.

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<v Speaker 1>Um just imagining it was along those lines. It certainly

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't anything about the quality of the show, which is

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<v Speaker 1>quite good. You can still go back and listen to them.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these, by the way, are still online, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can go back and find them if you like.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've got more to talk about with the podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>that were and still are with the House Stuff Works Network.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I do that, let's take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>to thank our sponsor. All Right, we're back. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a few more shows to talk about before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the interview with Josh Clark of Stuff You Should Know.

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<v Speaker 1>On August nine, we published a new show called Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>for a Stylish Home, which was a d I Y

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<v Speaker 1>and home decor show hosted by Christie and Sarah, and

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<v Speaker 1>their first episode was the importance of having things unique

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<v Speaker 1>to you in. The final episode, which published on February nine,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve, was Move Away from the Carpet Flooring Alternatives.

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<v Speaker 1>This was another one of those shows we launched and

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<v Speaker 1>canceled in just a few months, and I never really

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to talk with Sarah or Christie, so

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<v Speaker 1>I really wasn't in the realm where that show was

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<v Speaker 1>launched and then canceled. I don't really know what the

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<v Speaker 1>story is behind it, but this was during our days

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<v Speaker 1>as part of Discovery Communications, and that may have had

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<v Speaker 1>something to do with it. I honestly don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>It may have had something to do with our our

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with TLC. Now. Before they became the hosts of

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<v Speaker 1>of Stuff You Missed in History Class, Tracy V. Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>and Holly Fry also hosted a show called Pop Stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>which was all about pop culture. The first episode published

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<v Speaker 1>on October It was about time traveling through Fall TV.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually all about the shows that the hosts

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<v Speaker 1>were excited about. So if you want to hear which

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<v Speaker 1>shows in two thousand eleven Holly and Tracy were really

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to see, you can go and download that episode

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<v Speaker 1>and find out it's like time traveling all over again.

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<v Speaker 1>The final episode of Pop Stuff would air on June third,

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<v Speaker 1>two thirteen. It was called Greatest Hits Perfume The Culture

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<v Speaker 1>of Scent. I used to host a show called Forward Thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a video series, and it had a companion

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<v Speaker 1>audio podcast. The focus of both shows was to take

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<v Speaker 1>a speculative look at the future. Often this would center

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<v Speaker 1>on technology, but we'd also take science, art, culture, and

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<v Speaker 1>other topics into consideration. Joe McCormick and Lauren voege Obaum

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<v Speaker 1>hosted this show with me, and our first episode was

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<v Speaker 1>called The Internet of Things More Efficient than You and

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<v Speaker 1>it published on February fi fun fact, that was my

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<v Speaker 1>sixth year work anniversary the day that show went live.

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<v Speaker 1>Later that same year, Ben Bolan and Matt Frederick launched

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<v Speaker 1>a new series called Stuff They Don't Want You to Know,

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<v Speaker 1>which focuses on strange stories and French theories. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>gave the show that name. That name was my idea.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of like three good ones I've had since

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<v Speaker 1>I started How Stuff Works. Noel Brown has since joined

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<v Speaker 1>that show, and their first episode ever was called Edward

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<v Speaker 1>Burnet's the Most Famous Man Man You've Never Heard of?

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<v Speaker 1>That published on octobirteen. Julie Douglas, one of our editors

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<v Speaker 1>actually she used to edit my articles, hosts a show

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<v Speaker 1>called The Stuff of Life. Her show tends to publish

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<v Speaker 1>in seasons and it requires a lot more work, both

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<v Speaker 1>on the research side and the post production side, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really cool show. You should check it out

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<v Speaker 1>a few episodes if you're not familiar with it. The

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff of Life had both a trailer and an episode zero,

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<v Speaker 1>as did many of the other shows that I will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about soon, but the first real episode was called

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<v Speaker 1>The Power of Fear and published January two thousand sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Vogelbaum hosted a show called How Stuff Works Now

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<v Speaker 1>for a while that was based off the blog posts

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<v Speaker 1>that folks like myself we're writing for the Now brand.

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<v Speaker 1>We've since discontinued that brand and the series, but the

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<v Speaker 1>first episode of that podcast published on April two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen and was titled Microbots, Babies, trust, and lead contamination.

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<v Speaker 1>Three things you don't want to go together. Lauren and

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<v Speaker 1>Annie launched a show this year in March called Food Stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>in which they explore the amazing world of food. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you like food, you should check it out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome show. The first episode is titled Champagne and

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<v Speaker 1>Sparkling Wine and it published on March first, two thousand seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty seventeen, our company also hired Will and Mangesh,

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<v Speaker 1>who had co founded the magazine Mental Flass back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand one. They joined our company and they launched

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<v Speaker 1>a new podcast called Part Time Genius. Their first real episode,

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<v Speaker 1>getting Past the Trailer in episode zero, published on June seven, seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's called What Are the Sunniest Places to Hide

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<v Speaker 1>My Taxes? Jack O'Brien, who was once an editor of Cracked,

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<v Speaker 1>joined How Stuff Works in twenty seventeen as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>in October of seventeen launched a news oriented comedy show

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<v Speaker 1>called The Daily Zeitgeist. Now that show is particularly timely,

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<v Speaker 1>so listing titles and launch dates doesn't really apply because

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<v Speaker 1>it's dependent upon the news. But trust me, it's there.

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<v Speaker 1>You should check it out if you haven't heard it already.

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<v Speaker 1>On October nine, we launched the show Tech Stuff Daily.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't heard of it, it's a short form

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<v Speaker 1>show and yeah, it proves I can show it up

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<v Speaker 1>if I have to covers tech stories that are part

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<v Speaker 1>of the current conversation, and then I explained the context

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<v Speaker 1>behind them all within seven ish minutes or less. The

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<v Speaker 1>first episode was about augmented reality, and then we launched

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous History with Noel Brown and Ben Bullen, which looks

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<v Speaker 1>into really odd historical events. Their first episode is The

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<v Speaker 1>Wild Hippos of Pablo Escobar and it went live on

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<v Speaker 1>octob You should definitely tune into that show. I hear

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<v Speaker 1>a rumor that a certain text stuff podcast host might

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<v Speaker 1>be showing up regularly un ridiculous history to quiz people unfairly.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't tell you where I heard that. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the most recent shows that we launched is called Movie Crush.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a show hosted by Chuck Bryant and which he

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<v Speaker 1>interviews notable people about their favorite films. And the first

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<v Speaker 1>episode featured Janet Varney and it's all about Tron. So

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<v Speaker 1>you guys who heard my interview with Mr Listburger should

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<v Speaker 1>definitely check that one out. The Movie Crush first episode

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<v Speaker 1>published on November three. And we've had all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting celebrities come in and out of our office. There

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<v Speaker 1>are times when I'm recording and I'll look through the

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<v Speaker 1>window and I'll see someone I recognize, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep everything together and keep recording as if

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't just see someone super cool walk by the window.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a challenge. We've got a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>shows coming up soon. There's one called Atlanta Monster that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be all about the Atlanta child murders

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<v Speaker 1>that happened in the early eighties here in Atlanta, and

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<v Speaker 1>that that promises to be a very hard hitting, serious

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<v Speaker 1>investigative piece. So if you are a fan of that style,

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<v Speaker 1>that genre of podcast, you owe it to yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. I've seen some of the early work

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<v Speaker 1>and it is phenomenal, and we've got a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>planned in the future. So if you are a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of how Stuff works, you should be on the lookout

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<v Speaker 1>for new podcast that will be coming out mostly through

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond, so you never know what might pop up next. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and take a listen to an interview

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<v Speaker 1>I did with a certain Mr Josh Clark of Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should know Fame. Joining me in the studio today

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<v Speaker 1>is my good buddy, my co worker, who I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see nearly as frequently as I used to. Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. I think the last time you joined us

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<v Speaker 1>for Tech Stuff, we talked about toilets we did. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a good episode. Did you know that after that

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<v Speaker 1>episode I actually got to visit one of the toilets

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about in that episode. We talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>toilets in Scara Bray, the little community in Ireland where

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<v Speaker 1>or Scotland rather, I'm sorry, in Scotland, where they had

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<v Speaker 1>dug out trenches underneath the seaside village of Scara Bray

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<v Speaker 1>that would carry waste away into the ocean. And I

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<v Speaker 1>actually visited the village of scare A Bray on my

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<v Speaker 1>on my trip to Scotland and I it was fine. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that was I was told specifically not to use those facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>largely because there are no walls anymore, and apparently it's considered. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not what we're here to talk about today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not here to talk about my proclivities for dropping

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<v Speaker 1>trout at the drop of a hat. The hats and

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<v Speaker 1>trousers they just drop everywhere. We were talking about now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, this is a surprise because this is your life. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. So we're talking about the how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works story, Josh, and a big part of that. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>In our previous episode, I covered the sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>evolution of the website site side of How Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>because that was what we were known for for the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the time. That you and I have been here.

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<v Speaker 1>It was mostly known as a website that also did

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<v Speaker 1>some podcasts later on, and now we really think of

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves as a podcast network, so we're kind of transitioning

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<v Speaker 1>into that. And I want to talk to you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Let's let's you know, Stuff you Should Know

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<v Speaker 1>are our most popular show, of which you are a

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<v Speaker 1>co host half for third A third a third? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>is another another thirty three point three repeated. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sort of like the episodes, right. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>just recently celebrated your one thousand episode. Yes, congratulations and

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations to you at number nine hund thank you so much. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would have thought back in two thousand and eight

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<v Speaker 1>when we were first talking about they so going into

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<v Speaker 1>that mindset, Josh, can you and I know you've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this recently, but can you talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about how Stuff you Should Know even came about? So? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Stuff you should Know was the brainchiwl though this

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Conald Burn, Yes, who used to run the site,

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>as you know, and uh left and then actually came

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.719
<v Speaker 1>back and now runs the site again. Yeah, and he

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>had this idea that they were on how stuff works

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>that there were a lot of really really well researched,

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>well written articles, but that not everybody sits around and

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>reads articles on the web all day, right, So he

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get those articles out to people who don't

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>read on the web, and he thought podcasts, we'll try that.

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>So he he came to me and Jerry and said,

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys, just just try this, just give it a shot.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:28.160
<v Speaker 1>There is no stakes to this whatsoever. Um. I overheard

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 1>a conversation where the phrase low hanging fruit was used

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:38.360
<v Speaker 1>to explain why they were using writers as hosts, and um,

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of took off from there right like

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.720
<v Speaker 1>we were. There was nobody paying attention. We were totally

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>figuring out as we went along, and I think because

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>there was so little risk involved, we felt really free

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 1>to just try whatever, and we were able to kind

0:26:56.119 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>of find our footing without being under screw, which really helped. Right.

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>We could stumble around a lot and no one was

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 1>going to pull the rug out under us and make

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 1>us fall flat. That's if I if I can continue

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>my stumbling metaphor, right right, But I mean it was

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>that that that's that's a lot of pressure, and that

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.360
<v Speaker 1>pressure wasn't there because we were all just having fun

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>at the time. Yeah, we weren't. We weren't monetizing podcast.

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>There were no ads, there were no sponsorships, no, and

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, that the podcast program was

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, um under real scrutiny more than a few

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>times of course of its lifetime. We'll get into that, Okay, alright,

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>well I'm going to stop myself there. Yeah, when we

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>we get into the realm after how Stuff Works left

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>the umbrella of the Convex Group, right, So when we

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>both started, it was part of of convex So, which

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>is this company that also owned web md. That was

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the really big property under the Convex Group. Yeah, originally

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>a guy named Jeff Arnold founded group. When we came

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>in the house, Supports was kind of sort of operating

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit like an internet startup, had a little

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>bit of that feel to it. It wasn't super crazy.

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>But again, like two thousand and eight, that was when

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>we started doing this podcast stuff, and it was considered

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of a brand extension. It wasn't really considered a

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 1>revenue generator. In fact, it wasn't for many years. Um.

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember when tech Stuff began, which was a few

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>months after stuff. You should know. It started that we

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>were following certain rules that you guys had already kind

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>of set, not really rules, but you know, just the

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>following the sort of yeah, where we were taking articles

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that existed on the site and using those as the

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>launch point and the guy the the real the real

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>goal for us was to guide people to go to

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the website. That's hard to do. It's hard to do

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>from a where you're you're trying to get people to

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>transition formats, right, like they're listening to something and you're

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to convince them two. Then next time they are

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>at a computer terminal or a smartphones were barely a

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>thing two thousand and eight, But if they were using

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a smartphone to then navigate to a website, that's hard

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>to do. But it was kind of our mandate for

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a while. I also remember that we had very strict

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>time limits early early on in our podcast, like keep

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>it ten minutes or a shorter five yeah, initially, and

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that came from iTunes. They were like, people

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>are just kind of into really short podcasts, and I

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 1>guess we heard five minutes and we just could not

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>be contained in five minutes. No, I mean just the

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>introduction alone would take about five minutes. Uh. And you

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you even had like Chris Palette was one of your

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>co hosts early on and stuff. You should know. He

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>became my co host for tech stuff, And I believe

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Candice did a couple of episodes with you early early on,

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you did some episodes with Chuck, and the

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>chemistry was undeniable. You and Chuck just worked so well

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>together from the get go, And of course that's only

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>gotten better as the show has gone on. It was

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>already great. So yeah, we can't people ask us, like,

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>what you know, what's the secret in obviously the secret

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>first stuff you should know is the chemistry between me

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and Chuck. But we have like no idea, like I'm

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>not like here, I'll push this button on Chuck and

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>he'll push this button back, and like the chemistry just emerges.

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>It's just it just so happens that if you take me,

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you take Chuck, and you put us in the room

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>together and we start talking about an article that we

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>both read and did supplemental research on, it just has

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a little certain verve to it. I guess. Yeah, I've

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>experienced similar things in the acting world where you go up.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>You'll you'll be in a scene against one actor and

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.239
<v Speaker 1>everything's fine, like there's nothing bad about it. But then

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you go into a scene with a totally different actor

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>with whom you have real chemistry, and suddenly something that

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>was just going to be fine is elevated. And the

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>same thing is true a podcasts. So we could have

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>two very intelligent, well spoken people having a conversation about

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>an interesting topic, and that would be a decent podcast.

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>But then when you get that chemistry, when you get

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>those two people who just their personalities mesh so well

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and complement one another. So it's not like a it's

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it is a Venn diagram, right, You've got overlap,

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>but you also have stuff on on the edges for

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>both of you. Yeah. I think of it more not

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>like a Venn diagram, but more like a Yin Yang symbol,

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>where there's like they compliment and fulfill one another and

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>create a larger hole. Yeah, where it really it's just

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>two weird looking commas. But if you put together, oh,

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a circle. Yeah, And I think that that has

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>served the show very well. So you have the benefit

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>of two hosts with great chemistry, and of course You've

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>had no shortage of really interesting topics, many of which

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>have come from articles from How Stuff Works. Yeah, we

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>still basically follow that original model where when we record

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the we start off with an article from How Stuff

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Works almost I would say probably nineties something percent of

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the time. And then we you know, we we agree

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>like this is the one we're going to use to

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>basically structure the episode on and then that's it. We

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>don't talk about it anymore. We both go off do

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>our own research and we come back together and we

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>sit down and we have a conversation about that topic

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.239
<v Speaker 1>based on what we found out, and um, Jerry records it,

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, probably about five or six things have

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>to be edited out, which we indicate with a peep,

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and Jerry's got to go find the beeps and make

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>sure that they're all taken care of. Um, and then

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that's it. One take, and that's the that's the show.

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>That's that's how Chris and I would record as well.

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>It's nice way to do it's a cool way to

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>do it. It's Chris was the only co host I've

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>had where besides guest co host, where I've been able

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>to do that where we did our our research completely independently,

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't even share notes. If anything, we might sit down

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>just before we start recording and saying this is kind

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of the sequence I was thinking about, but it'd be

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>like a very general kind of outline, just like like,

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>let's start this. To me, makes the most logged logical

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>sense to start from here and progress. Obviously of the

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>shows have evolved quite a bit since they first launched.

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've seen them grow much longer. Uh, there's

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>definitely a limit I think to it. Like we found

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that once you start pushing the sixty minute mark, it's

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>starting to get a little long. But that led to

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>a new innovation for us, which was the two part episode. Yes,

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and tech Stuff has certainly no in fact tech Stuff.

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>We've done some two and three partners because some some

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>especially some of the big companies, if we want to

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>do a full history on them, it really requires done

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>three partners. Xerox Story was three parts, Nintendo was three parts. Yeah,

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>there's certain certain companies that have had enough really important

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>historical moments that have impacted technology to require Yeah, and

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Zerox surprisingly Xerox Park never mind, all my listeners just

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>heard about that a month ago, So I'm not gonna

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>go into it again, but yeah, I feel the same way.

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>It's actually one of the things that we should mention,

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and I've talked about before on the show, is that

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the prep time for a podcast is deceptively long. Right.

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>A listener may listen to you talk for an hour,

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and because that conversation seems very natural and effortless, they

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>may come away thinking like, oh, these guys, you know,

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe they did like an hour or two a research

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and then they got together and had a conversation. Typically

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>it's way more work than that, for sure, at least

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a full day of research um per hour of podcasts. Yeah,

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I would say that's a pretty good rule. Um. Um.

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>The uh, the thing about it though is you never

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>go into the podcast. But I should say I never

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>go into the podcast with feeling prepared. No, like I

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>can keep researching up until you know, the last moment,

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and um, that's not always a luxury I have. But

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>even if it is, when I when I get in

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and sit down, I'm like, what else am I missing?

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 1>You know what, what obvious fact am I gonna walk

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>right past? Or what group am I going to not

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>include in in in advert only offend you know, um,

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>there are all considerations that that kind of make going

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>in and recording. There's a certain amount of anxiety to

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, even after uh ten years of it.

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Almost yeah, there the first few times staying down at

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>a microphone, it's such an unnatural thing, you know, to

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 1>try and have a natural conversation with somebody, but you've

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>got this construct in between you. It also, to me

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>was the weirdest thing finding out people were listening, because

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the way we work typically is that we're recording at

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 1>least a little ahead of time, so that we have

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a buffer for times when you're traveling,

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>you're on vacation, you maybe have a sick day, something

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 1>along those lines. And that means that by the time

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>something has gone out, you've already been working on two

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.439
<v Speaker 1>or three or more podcasts further down the line, and

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>so you're constantly thinking not just of the next thing,

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking of the thing that's two or three episodes ahead,

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and it very quick you can lose track of the

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>fact that people are listening to the stuff you talked

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.240
<v Speaker 1>about two weeks ago or three weeks ago. I remember

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the first time we started getting fan mail. That was

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>incredible because it was a reminder that hey, you're not

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>just talking into a microphone and then you leave the

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>room and then it's all done. It's still living out there. Uh.

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>And that to me still to this day is something

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that I take. I don't take it for granted. It

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:30.760
<v Speaker 1>surprises me to this day. Yeah. You know, Um, after

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 1>as many emails as we've all gotten over the years

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>from listeners, it would be kind of easy to just

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>get kind of jaded. UM, but I'll still read a

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of the emails that come in, and when I do,

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm finding like, like, no, these are this is really

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>like important stuff that these people are saying, like like

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>we helped them with anxiety. Um. Some people have said

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that they have not committed suicide or tried to um

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>die by suicide because we were there for him. Like

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:10.439
<v Speaker 1>there's just there there are things that that we're doing that. Yes,

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it does not come through when you just are sitting

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>in the studio like we are right now, because the

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>world is physically cut off from us right now. So

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the idea that we're putting it out there and it's

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>having these impacts on all these multiple different people. Um,

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and even even nothing quite so dramatic. Knowing that there's

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody out there sitting on a subway laughing at a

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>joke that I made. That's extraordinarily satisfying. That the key

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>is to remind yourself to stop and think about that

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>once in a while. Absolutely, because it is definitely work.

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>We're all working like crazy around here, and um, it's

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>easy to not do that, but when you do, it's

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>it's it makes it quite satisfying. It is. It is

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of fun for me now because a lot of

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.240
<v Speaker 1>my shows I'm live streaming. Uh, not the ones whenever

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I do interviews, I don't live stream because I don't

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 1>want to put added pressure on the person I'm talking to,

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 1>But but I'll live stream all the solo shows and

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>it's great because it reminds me even even though the

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>chat room tends to be fairly modest, it's a small group,

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's they're very responsive that if I if I

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>let loose with I don't know if you know this, Josh,

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>but occasionally I like to let loose with a pun.

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>I know, shocking, right, but to see a reaction to that. Um.

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Also occasionally we're recording in the other studio where Ramsey

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 1>sits in the same room. And if I can get

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Ramsey to chuckle or snort or or make any kind

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>of noise that might possibly get picked up on the microphone,

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I consider it a personal victory. Yes, I feel the

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>same way with Jerry, Like making Jerry laugh is that's

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>it's nice? Yeah. And I did the same thing to

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Dylan all the time. If I could get Dylan to laugh,

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it was the best thing, because yeah, absolutely, and only that,

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>but it did reminded me that hey, they're actually listening

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.879
<v Speaker 1>and just saying there with their headphones on. Um, so

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>let's also talk a little bit so stuff. You should know.

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it became a big success. It is the most

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>successful of our shows here at How Stuff Works. So,

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 1>h thank you for pointing that up. I mean, how

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>could I not? At what point did? Did you? Was

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>there like a day or a moment where you heard

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 1>about a statistic or okay, so tell me about the

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>moment where you're like, this is this is way bigger

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>than I expect that. Yeah. So, um, there was a

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>specific day. I think it was in November of two

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 1>thousand eight. Um. We started in April two eight and

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>by November it was strictly me and Chuck and have

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:47.399
<v Speaker 1>been for a while. And um, somebody pointed out the

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>iTunes charts, the podcast charts on iTunes, and our podcast

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>was number one. The number one podcast in the United

0:39:56.400 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>States was our podcast and U that drove it home.

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>That was astounding. It was like, you know, I used

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to get a lot of participant ribbons and stuff and

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.359
<v Speaker 1>sports and things like that. I imagine this is what

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>it felt like winning the Big Game or something. Finally,

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it was amazing. Took first place the egg Toss and

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>we we number two was this American Life. Yeah, so

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 1>that just made the whole thing that much more astounding. Well,

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>NBR had been doing podcast since two thousand five, right,

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>so like right after podcast became a thing, NBR was doing.

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Although NBR was doing segments of shows, like not even

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>full episodes at that point, but they had they had

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 1>had a deep level of experience in that space, whereas

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.800
<v Speaker 1>we were the newcomers. In fact, Connal, the person we

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>mentioned before, had said a few times that we were

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 1>late to the game on podcasts. Yeah, which is kind

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.319
<v Speaker 1>of funny now that you know you look at the

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>podcast industry and how established it. We're pioneers were considered

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 1>pioneers now right, but at the time we were thinking

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>we were pretty late to it. And it is interesting

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>to note that podcasting itself has gone through these cycles

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>where it gets rediscovered and thus people are like, hey,

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>podcasts are back. I'm like, I don't mean to quote

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>L L cool J, but you know I've been here

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 1>for years. That's all I'm saying. But a direct quote phrase,

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I like to paraphrase. I like to put

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>this into my own voice. Yeah, paraphrasing and puns. That's

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>really the alternate title to tech stuff. So tell me also,

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>because stuff you should know has been in a great

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>position where you guys have been able to go to

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>amazing places and do your show live. Tell me what

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that experience is like for you. It's nuts and neat

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and fun to do um because again, when you're when

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you're in the room recording, it's just you know, you

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and the guest and Ramsey. When it's me and Chuck

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and Jerry, it's just us. When we do it live,

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>it's us. But then there's a bunch of people there

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>who are laughing and what we're saying, which is amazing

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>to to get a laugh out of people or a

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>gasp is another really satisfying one to UM. So to

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>get that immediate feedback from people, uh, for us is

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>really really um just just really gratifying in thrilling too

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>because a good word to use, but um. It also

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 1>is a really unique experience for the listeners who are

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 1>coming to the show because normally listening to a podcast

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:40.959
<v Speaker 1>is a almost always a solitary pursuit. People just listen

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to them with their headphones on and they're the only

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>ones listening to them, so it's us and them. Now

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.879
<v Speaker 1>at a live show, it's us and them and then

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 1>all the other people who it's normally us and them

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>with and everyone's combined, so they're hearing gasps and laughs

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.439
<v Speaker 1>from people who are laughing with them at the same

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 1>thing at the same time, and it has a really

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of surreal, I think, um warm, communal feeling for

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>the people who come to the shows. And we found that,

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, usually when people come, they come to the

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>next one and the next one too. Yeah, and podcasting,

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you pointed that out because podcasting really is

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a very intimate kind of it is production, right, Like

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 1>if you go to our shows, it's us sitting at

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a table with a tablecloth on the stage talking into

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 1>mix to to the people in the audience, Like it's

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>it's extremely intimate. But if you're listening just regularly, I

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>mean you're listening to voices talking right into your ears

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>about whatever the topic may be. Uh, it's that level

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of intimacy. I think that has elevated podcasts over certain

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>other types of media because it feels like the people

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you're listening to our speaking to you directly. And then

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 1>when you go to one of these live events you

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>realize that there's this communal aspect. I'm glad you use

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that word, because I think that also can create bigger responses.

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Something that might have made you chuckle softly suddenly your

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>laugh thing at because you're sharing that with other people

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and you're being your your your response is reinforced by

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>the responses of other people. Yeah, and and reinforced and

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>in biggend yes, in bigened and then uh, we we

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>see that and it's a very perfectly cromulent word. We

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>as again as a stage performer, like I've had that

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.439
<v Speaker 1>experience of performing in front of an audience and their

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>reaction energizes my performance. So you yeah, if you have

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a crowd that's not really playing off of what you're doing.

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Not only does it not energize you d energy because

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you pour more and more of yourself like you will,

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you will try to fill that like it. It feels

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>feels like you're you've got a picture and you're pouring

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>water into the picture, but for some reason the picture

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>is not filling up. So you're just like, I just

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>gotta pour more water. And it's that's how it is,

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>except you're talking about your your energy or performance energy

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.439
<v Speaker 1>as you're trying to do this. You know, No, I've

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>performed in front of those crowds too, but but you

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>get a good out and it's just amazing. Oh yeah,

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>like they just booy you like a draft on a

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 1>red balloon. Yes, yes, it's uh, it is, it is.

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I was having a Nina moment there with ninety nine

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 1>of those red balloons. I was thinking more French movie. Yeah, no,

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I I think that's a better visual honestly than the

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 1>than than a than a song that that warns you

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.399
<v Speaker 1>against nuclear war. It was needed at the time it

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 1>was and maybe again, but that's getting off on a

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:32.320
<v Speaker 1>different tangent. So do you have any particular favorite memories

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>as far as the stuff you should know, podcast goes

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:39.319
<v Speaker 1>like anything, uh, from whether it's a fan interaction or

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>an episode you did. I mean, I know of one

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.879
<v Speaker 1>episode that has to be in your top five, which

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>was the Necronomicon because that was Yeah, so I wrote

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.879
<v Speaker 1>an article about how the Necronomicon works. And Josh, you're

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a fan of Lovecraft as well, like you like Lovecraft's works.

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>So Josh and Chuck, we're going to record an episode

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>about the Necronomicon. And this was back when your city

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 1>we were in. Our office was in Buckhead, Atlanta. I

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>just remember sitting at my desk. I think this was

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 1>still when we were on the fifteenth floor and yeah,

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the original Yeah, the original space. And I remember you

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 1>would come by and you tap me on the shoulder

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, hey, hey, Strick, how do you say

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the name of the guy who wrote the Necronomic And

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, the mad arab abduell L has reads

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like thanks, thanks, and I'd say like three times and

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>they go away, and then like maybe three minutes later,

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you can hey, Strick, what's the place where Cathula lies dreaming? Like, oh,

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>that's real? Yeah, yeah, real, yea as our apostrophe a

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 1>L Yeah, And I said, well, you know, there's differing

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>opinions upon it, but the Lovecraft himself says that the

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 1>human tongue is incapable of actually pronouncing it. So really,

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you're you've got a lot of leeway. And eventually he

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Josh comes back and tells me on the showers, Hey,

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:52.319
<v Speaker 1>just come into the studio. And that's how I ended

0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>up being on an episode of stuff you should know. Yeah,

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I still do stay And I'm impressed by that because

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I think God knows what you're working on, probably an

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>update about how the iPod works or something, because you

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:06.360
<v Speaker 1>know they just released the second one that month or something. Yeah,

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and um, you just stopped, stood up, came into the

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 1>studio and spent thirty minutes talking totally without zero, with

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 1>zero preparation, totally off the top of your head, but

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:23.399
<v Speaker 1>with full authority about Lovecraft and and his mythos, and um,

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it was quite impressive. I would direct anybody to go

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>listen to that episode, whether you're interested in that kind

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of thing or not, just with the knowledge that you

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>had no forewarning that you were going to be coming

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 1>in recording right then, and that was it, Like that

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 1>was the first take that we did. There there maybe

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 1>a dozen topics out there that I could pull that

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>off with. Lovecraft just happened to be one of them.

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 1>So it was. It was a good It was a

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>good uh alignment of the planets for that particular situation. Uh,

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you about Let you know, we alluded

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to some some changes over time in the scrutiny area

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 1>of podcasts, and uh, I think it's good to talk

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>about that too. And I mentioned it. I'm sure I

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>say this because I'm recording this before I record the

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>actual website section, which will publish before this, But I'm

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>sure I mentioned about the evolution of ownership of how

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff works. How Stuff works after it was part of

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Comics Group got sold to Discovery Communications. Discovery Communications had

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a slightly different approach of some cases, a dramatically different

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 1>approach to uh, keeping an eye on and sometimes guiding

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the content of certain podcasts. I assume stuff you should

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 1>know had to do a Shark week episode at some point.

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 1>We did. We did a few Shark episodes and and uh, yeah,

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>first you kind of bristled at that thing. But one

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 1>thing that we learned was Um, when you, uh, when

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:55.720
<v Speaker 1>you get a shark week assignment, you turn it into

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 1>some great shark episodes. Yeah, now they're I agree that

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 1>there were definitely that initial reaction of like, oh, I'm

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 1>not so sure I'm cool with having to you know

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 1>now that I'm because I've been so used to being

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.760
<v Speaker 1>able to dictate what goes on my show. That's something

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't think a lot of people realize is that,

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>like we all basically had total creative control over our

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 1>own shows. Like we choose the topics, we decide what

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>goes in, we decide what comes out, we decide um,

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:29.399
<v Speaker 1>the tone, the the you know, the language that's used,

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.839
<v Speaker 1>like like we yeah, it's it's the Like. That's one

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>thing that this company has always been great about is

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 1>giving the creators creative control. And so so, yeah, when

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>when we were kind of given a suggestion that you know,

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>shark weeds coming up, don't you think the podcast should

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>all do some something that has to do with sharks. Um, Yeah,

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:54.839
<v Speaker 1>it could cause a little bit of bristling, but that

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 1>was that was it. And and uh, you know, I

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>think most people we listen to stuff you should know. No,

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not much of a corporate apologist. But that really

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:08.399
<v Speaker 1>was the extent of of the mandate, or it could

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 1>have been much much more. So what's cool about it

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>is that every single show that did something on sharks,

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>um did something really cool about sharks. And I would

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>direct you to stuff you should knows. Shark Diaries episode, Yeah,

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Chuck put together and wrote and directed and yeah, a

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:34.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of the other hosts did voice acting. Um and

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>uh it's it's one of this. It was like a

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 1>radio play basically, but it was all based on historical

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 1>fact about these shark attacks in like, um, New Jersey,

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe nineteen sixteen or something like that. It

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 1>was some of the stuff that inspired Jaws, right, yeah, um,

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 1>so it turned out to just be this really neat

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 1>interesting episode that we otherwise never would have done. Yeah.

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I I was one of the voices in that. I

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>remember doing that, yeah, the tech stuff episode for that

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:07.319
<v Speaker 1>first one, because we Chris and I really struggled because

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 1>there's not so many, so many pieces of tech that

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 1>we could do what you guys do. We ended up

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>doing Bruce the shark in Jaws. So we talked about that. Well.

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Apart from those little moments that I mean, there were

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>some restrictions on tech stuff, but that was largely because

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 1>we were working for a company that had a big

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 1>interest in cable, so a lot of those topics were

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:33.720
<v Speaker 1>we were gently guided away from covering because of conflict

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.120
<v Speaker 1>of interest and that which makes some sense. It made

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it a little complicated to talk about certain topics, but

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>we did our best um And obviously we've gone through

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple of changes since then, but I would say

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 1>that the Discovery era was probably the only one where

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I felt like there was even a small amount of

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:56.920
<v Speaker 1>of corporate oversight in that sense, like and even then again,

0:51:56.960 --> 0:52:01.279
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't that restrictive guy a TV show out of it,

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:03.799
<v Speaker 1>That's true. I remember we were doing a lot of

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:07.880
<v Speaker 1>ads for like national brands at the time, too, is it. Yeah?

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking as I watched the pilot episode of that,

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and I watched your your Nemesis character on there, I thought,

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:18.279
<v Speaker 1>who did they model this after? Or is this just

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:20.960
<v Speaker 1>totally fictional? Because I have a feeling that every single

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:24.240
<v Speaker 1>other podcaster in this room is thinking, is that supposed

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to be me? Yeah? I'll never tell all right, that's fair.

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna I'm not gonna grow you on that

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean that to me is something that needs to

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:35.120
<v Speaker 1>be revealed on your show, not mine. I also I

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>had I got to be one of the extras in

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 1>one of the episodes. Did Yeah. I got to walk

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 1>down the hallway and talk to actors I know personally

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 1>who were pretending to be my co workers in a

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 1>fictional office setting. It was bizarre. Yeah, but that walk

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>was one of the best. I really thought it was great.

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I was so sad that it. I don't think it

0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>made it into the show, but I thought it did.

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it did. You know what, I'm gonna have to

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 1>go back and watch him now like every week, you know,

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I blush. Uh. So these days, of course, we've got,

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, more things in production than ever before. We

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 1>have a lot more shows that have come out. I mean,

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.360
<v Speaker 1>there's been some podcasts that have come and gone since

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 1>we started. There's some that I wish could come back

0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:25.240
<v Speaker 1>in some form. I still miss stuff from the b Sides.

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 1>That was one of my favorites. Yeah, that's how everybody's

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:29.919
<v Speaker 1>going to for one that just got canceled because of

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 1>not enough ears. But it was a great show between

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Chuck and John Fuller. Yeah, they were it was like

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:40.719
<v Speaker 1>a just music talk. Basically, it was fantastic and we've

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:43.919
<v Speaker 1>got some other new ones coming out soon. We've got

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:45.919
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's in development that we can't really talk about

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 1>yet because it's it's still in various stages and hasn't

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 1>yet gone live. But I do highly recommend everybody listen

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and pay attention because we've got to have some new

0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:58.879
<v Speaker 1>shows coming out that some of them have been coming

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>out over the over the course of Part Time Genius,

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 1>but where you're going to have a lot more of those. Well,

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, Chuck's got a new show out. Yeah, it's

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 1>just launching, Well it will have launched by the time

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>this comes out about It's called Movie Crush, and um,

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:20.240
<v Speaker 1>it's him interviewing famous people about what their favorite movie

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:23.760
<v Speaker 1>is and through that he kind of like he uses

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:26.880
<v Speaker 1>that as a pretext to find out about them, the people,

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the person. Yeah, and um, he's had I think he

0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:33.799
<v Speaker 1>started out with Janet Varney Tagnitaro. I don't know if

0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:36.359
<v Speaker 1>he's announcing who else, but from what I understand, there's

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:39.479
<v Speaker 1>some like it's going to be a pretty cool interview show.

0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 1>We've seen a few famous faces passed through the Hell

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:46.479
<v Speaker 1>Stuff Works office over the last few weeks, including ties

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 1>where I was recording in here, seeing famous faces pass

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 1>in front of the podcast studio and having to keep

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 1>my cool, maintain maintain radio professionalism. Yeah, so we obviously,

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:02.960
<v Speaker 1>oh An and I have a show coming out. Oh

0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if it was ready to be talked about,

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 1>but I just wanted to say I have a show

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:10.439
<v Speaker 1>coming out. To look for it in January February, and

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 1>hopefully I'll knock everybody stucks off. I have a show

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that's in the pitch process, but who knows if he'll

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:18.880
<v Speaker 1>go any further than that. We have anything coming from you.

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Strick is dynamite. Man, there's so much. Can I just

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 1>take a second here, Yeah, I just want to tell you,

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 1>quite sincerely, congratulations on nine episodes you've gone through. You've

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:34.879
<v Speaker 1>had several hosts, and then when you were fresh out

0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>of hosts, you just kept going by yourself, on your own,

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the help of producers of course the

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:45.360
<v Speaker 1>great Ramsey who's helping you now. But you have carried

0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:48.359
<v Speaker 1>this brand and built it and grown it and kept

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 1>this this loyal audience for all these years. And my

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 1>hat is off to you with with a tremendous amount

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 1>of respect I say, congratulations, thank you so much, Josh.

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:00.879
<v Speaker 1>That means a lot. That means a h I really

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:06.120
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Uh. And obviously the producers and my listeners. UH,

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 1>they're the reason why this show really keeps going, and

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm just very thankful to be able to do it

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 1>every week. There might be some weeks where I'm going

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>to be recording on a Wednesday and it's Tuesday afternoon

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm still not really sure what I'm going to

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about, and I'm beating myself up because i know

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to do a lot of research in

0:56:23.280 --> 0:56:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a short amount of time. But there are other weeks

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 1>where you know, I I've just I feel great, I've

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 1>got like tons of research. Sometimes the best feeling in

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the world is when I get messages from people who say,

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I want you to talk more about this thing that

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, Because to me, that's saying that thing you're

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:42.840
<v Speaker 1>doing that you love to do, could you please do

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>that more. That's the best request you can never get.

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Right If if anyone says I love your show but

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 1>it's too short, it's the best complaint in the world

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:52.799
<v Speaker 1>because it says I love what you do and I

0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.319
<v Speaker 1>want you to do more of it. Um, there's just

0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:58.239
<v Speaker 1>so many hours in a week, so we're giving a

0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 1>lot and we want to keep living. But eventually we

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:03.680
<v Speaker 1>get to a point where, if you know spoon theory,

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:07.440
<v Speaker 1>we run out of spoons. So just keep that in mind, guys.

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna keep We're gonna keep going to the

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:11.800
<v Speaker 1>spoon store for you guys, as much as we can. Josh,

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:14.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining me. I really appreciate

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you taking the time to talk about your experiences at

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff you should know as well as everything helps. We

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 1>have both done here at How Stuff Works, and I

0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>wish you tons of success and a thousand more amazing episodes.

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to hear what episode two thousand is about.

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Thanks buddy. All Right, Well that's it for episode nine one,

0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Part two of the How Stuff Works story. Clearly I

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 1>could have got into a lot more detail, but I

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't want it to become too self serving. But it

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 1>is really a phenomenal place to work both as a

0:57:56.280 --> 0:58:01.959
<v Speaker 1>writer and a podcaster. Everyone here does amazing work. They

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 1>are all experts in their various fields, and they know

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:08.880
<v Speaker 1>so much about so many things. It is a joy

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to come here and work, whether it's too podcast or

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 1>two you know, sabotage someone else's work, as I have

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 1>been known to do upon occasion. If you are not

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:20.560
<v Speaker 1>familiar with some of the podcasts that I've mentioned in

0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 1>this episode, I highly recommend you go check out some

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:25.440
<v Speaker 1>of them. If there are any that I mentioned that

0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:27.480
<v Speaker 1>you thought I didn't even know they had ever done that,

0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>go check it out. If you go and listen to

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Stuff from the B Side and you think that was

0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 1>an amazing show, bring it back. You should tell people

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:40.240
<v Speaker 1>because then it might happen. But that's true for all

0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the different shows that we've done, and you never know,

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you might find out that the next podcast you download

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:49.200
<v Speaker 1>becomes your brand new second favorite. Because you've got a

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:52.680
<v Speaker 1>reserve first place for me. I do not give it

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 1>up willingly. All right, Well, if you guys have any

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>suggestions for future episodes of tech Stuff, whether it is

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a famous person in tech, a company, a technology anything

0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 1>along those lines, or maybe you have a specific guest

0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:08.160
<v Speaker 1>host or interview subject that you think I should have

0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 1>on the show, let me know. Send me an email.

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:14.280
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0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>or draw me a line on Twitter or Facebook the

0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:19.840
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0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:22.880
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0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you have not checked that out, you need to. Crystal

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:28.560
<v Speaker 1>is doing amazing work with that. And you can also

0:59:29.160 --> 0:59:32.080
<v Speaker 1>watch me record this show live, stumbling my way through

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:35.200
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0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:37.800
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0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:40.400
<v Speaker 1>room over there. You can join in there have a

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:43.800
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0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:46.480
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0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:49.960
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0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:53.400
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0:59:53.800 --> 1:00:02.720
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