WEBVTT - #20 - Reason 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.080 Yo, yo yo, another edition of that bootleg cav podcast 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:18.320 Look the third this week. Fam alright, let me tell 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.200 you something we're working over here. Man. I want to 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:22.599 give a shout out to my producer, Eric LaRock, my 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:27.680 bro bro Eric LaRock, who we've just been putting in 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:29.440 a lot of work. Man, we just broke thirty thousand 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.879 subscribers on YouTube, So shout out to everybody fucking what 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:36.080 it's on their YouTube, Shout out to everybody fucking what's 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:41.920 on Apple Spotify. iHeart whatever the fuck you're doing listening 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:47.919 to these podcasts. We appreciate it. Check this out episode 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.800 number twenty. Man. We about to get into episode number twenty. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.520 I'm gonna be doing some merch for the twenty fifth episode. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:01.920 I believe we're working on that at the moment. Just 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.920 some real dope shit on the way. You know. We 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.800 we've been typically doing one, trying to do once twice 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:10.800 a week, but there's just gonna be a lot more 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:15.200 shit coming and then you know, whether it's in interviews, 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.720 like you know, what we'll do usually is like we'll 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.480 drop an interview and then we'll have like two or 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:21.880 three in the can and we'll be like cool, We're 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.080 good for the month, but like we're realizing, like we're 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.760 racking up so many dope interviews that like why hold 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:31.120 on to them? You know what I'm saying. So, no 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:33.560 matter what, you're gonna get a new podcast every single week. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.240 But like this week, this is the third podcast we 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.920 dropped this week. You know we did, uh, what do 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:45.280 we do on Monday? Well, we did Fredo Bang on Wednesday? 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.960 And on Monday we did Somebody I got all am I? 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.559 What am I? Am? I tripping? Who do we drop 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:55.160 on Monday? Now? I gotta look this shit up. Man, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.440 this is embarrassing. Man, it's my own shit. Oh Blast 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.000 only Blast. So we did Blast on Monday, we did 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:07.120 Fredo Bang on Wednesday. Today's Friday, we got Reason Top 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.440 Dogs own Carson's Own. So let me tell you how 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.079 this interview went down. Man, we interviewed him earlier this week. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.519 I listened to the whole album. His album dropped today 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.800 and it is a very very If you are a 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:27.200 hip hop fan, then you will love this album. There's 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.760 some incredibly deep records on here. The album is called 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.360 New Beginnings. I guess it's technically a mixtape project. Whatever. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.680 He's not considering this his album, but it's like fourteen 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:41.720 goddamn songs, but reasons album New Beginnings is out. We 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.799 talked to him. I believe it's Monday or Tuesday, and 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.240 you know, I was like, look, let's drop this thing 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.120 the day your album drops, because we really dived into 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:58.119 this project. I'm already seeing, by the way, like he's 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.400 getting a lot of flak for the mac Miller and 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.600 when I heard it, I kind of knew that was 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.079 gonna happen. So we went in de bonk. No, just 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.040 just really good interview. Man. Probably one of my favorite interviews. 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.160 I say that a lot, but this is one of 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.840 my favorites that we've done since we started the podcast. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.960 Shout out top Dog, shout out to reason H, and 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:19.799 a shout out to our sponsors before we get into 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.600 the podcast, man, salute to odd Socks presenting sponsor for 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.480 holding us down. I got some odd socks on my 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.800 feet right now. I got these motherfucking macho man. Randy 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.040 Savage is on you feel me? 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I've been sitting 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.160 with your album since you said it to me last night. 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.239 I appreciate it. Incredible out of your work. Thank you, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.599 thank you. There was like two songs on there that 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.440 we're back to back. It was fall and the song 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.839 after Fall down Slow Down. That was like, you know, 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.760 that's like my back to back, Like I was like, shit, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.880 like just very very like introspective, like just great storytelling. 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:21.720 Like we'll get into those records, but I want to 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.680 I want to just kind of you know, you've been 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.560 dropping songs I feel like for the last year or so, 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.640 and they're all on this project, but not not everyone, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.920 not everyone here exactly, but but like three or four 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.000 of them, yeah, like three or four of them talk 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.800 about where you're at right now and why is you know, 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.839 why are we finally getting you know, TD we having 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.800 to wait for motherfuckers on you know what I'm saying. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.960 It's funny because it's like that's the mode. It's kind 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.200 of like not necessarily to make people wait, but just 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.000 to perfect hold on DJ heads calling me in the 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.880 middle of Hey, you know I'm doing an interview with you. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:06:02.359 Why are you always interrupting my ship? Why are you 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:09.360 always interrupting my ship? Because this is life. I need 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:10.800 you to be on some put a shirt on ship. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:15.240 That's what I need you to. Let me hit you 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:22.039 back after this, buddy. Anyway, I gotta answer DJ heads 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:23.800 like my wife, I got it like something could be 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.360 on fire right now. That's my dog. That's my dog. 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.159 But yeah, that's kind of been like the mode is 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.320 to just make sure that we perfect, you know what 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.520 I mean, quality over quantity. But I also feel like, 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.120 you know, the world being in the state that it 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.280 was in was kind of weird too. You know. We 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.120 were supposed to drop last year but just uh, you know, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.480 trying to make sure that everything was right. And then 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.000 when we were gonna drop this earlier this year in March, 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.280 you know, COVID hit of course, and then we were 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.680 gonna drop again. When we finally understood like okay, like 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.520 let's just do it. You know, we're gonna go in June. 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.200 Then a lot of the black Black Lives Matter stuff 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:57.880 and people were passing, and we just felt like it 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.120 would be disrespectful to me pushing music at that. So 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:02.520 it was just like a lot of adjusting, you know 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:03.680 what I mean, in real life. And I feel like 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.720 people forget sometimes that because we're TD, that like we 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.479 got to adjust to like we don't just work on 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.400 our own, you know what I mean, merit or whatever 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.600 the case may be. So and we respect the things 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.560 that's going on, but I think we had a good 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.320 place now, like the whole label, you know what I mean. 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:17.920 And I'm proud to be the one to start kicking 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.160 it off. Give me some of your background, man, Like, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:24.160 obviously you're from Carson. I had heard of you before 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.520 you were working with TD. You were you know, I 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.720 would say, like, you know, like if you were tapped 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:32.400 in with two Dope Boys and some of the blogs, 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.240 like you were familiar with what you were doing. And 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.360 then TDE became a part of the situation and that 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.120 just kind of made shit like super big. But how 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.040 long have you been making music? Man? Like, when did 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.480 you first start taking this rap shit series? I actually blessed, 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.320 blessed enough. I actually only been making music for six years, 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.520 so I started in twenty fourteen. Wow. Yeah, yeah, And 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.240 I've been heavy into music just because I liked it, 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.040 Like I just liked lyricists and rappers that, you know 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:58.920 what I mean, really rapped about stuff and whatnot. So 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.080 I was super heavy into that. And then I played 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:03.680 ball and I was supposed to go to Greece to 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.120 play basketball out there, and then one day I just 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:08.640 I just kind of fell out of love with it 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.760 on a business level because I was like, you know, 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.440 I love basketball, but I don't really want to do 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.440 a business thing with it. And so I just called 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.239 my agent and I was just like, now I'm probably 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.400 not gonna go. And then where you was at and 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.600 that was like the beginning of twenty fourteen, so that 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.800 was like the beginning twenty fourteen. I was still in college. 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.480 So I called him told him that. And then there 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.080 was a part of me that like, and that's kind 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.160 of what new beginning symbolizes, and we'll get into that. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:32.360 But there was a part of me that I was 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.120 kind of scared to do that because basketball was my comfort. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.480 I knew that I can go make money playing basketball, 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.720 Like I knew that like anything else I can do, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.240 I can rent, there's anything else I can do. I 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.400 can go play basketball and make some money. And I 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:45.880 was like, do I really want to give up this 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.760 comfort you know what I'm saying, in this comfort zone 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.080 or whatever, to do something else and potentially fail, you 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.480 know what I mean. And so I ended up making 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.120 a decision. And even after I told him, I still 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.800 was kind of like fifty to fifty. I called him 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.199 some days and be like, well, wait, hold on. Then 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.320 when I graduated and I wrote a song called Letter 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.439 to God, which is like my second song that I wrote, 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.600 and I sent it to my brother and we listened 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.600 to it, and after that that was that song kind 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.080 of got me over the fear. I was like, I'm 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.960 I think I'm really good at this ship. Let me 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:18.199 just try it. Yeah, exactly. So where did you go to? 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.559 Where did you play basketball? Is that a D two 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.280 called Northwestern State in Iowa. There's like a swarm of 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:28.319 Northwestern's in the Midwest. It's like Northwestern, Oklahoma, Northwestern. I 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.920 feel like there's a million Northwestern. There's a bunch of Northwestern. Yeah, 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.560 it's like this little like weird yeah, middle of nowhere. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.760 It was awful. So were you at a point guard? 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.000 Because I'm not tall enough to you? Yeah, be anything else? 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.079 One hundred Yeah. I mean it's it's crazy because I 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.840 like that basketball hustle, like you said, like going to 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.640 Greece like I got. I got some homies who live 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.680 in Europe and who hoop and like you said, like 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:54.719 it's like, you know, if you love basketball and you're like, 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.760 like you're good, Like there's always like always a place 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.520 to make me. Now you're rent, there's always a way 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.160 to make money. And if you could pay your rent 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.480 playing basketball, bro, it's like and that was my thing. 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.080 I'm like, like I'm seeing all my homies, like you know, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.480 work jobs and stuff, and they hate their job, and 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.160 I'm like, like, even though I might not like where 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.000 I'm at over there, at least I like my job, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:14.280 like you know what I'm saying, and I can pay 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.080 my rent doing it or whatever the case may be. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.480 But I had just had two nieces and I was 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.320 in Iowa for two years and I wanted to come 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.160 back home. I went through like a little racial situation 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.240 out there with my coach, and it was just like 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:26.720 I was just like, you know, I don't know if 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:28.600 I'm ready to leave again, you know what I mean. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.640 And so that was kind of like part of the 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.680 influence behind it was I don't know if I'm ready 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.240 to leave. And then on top of that, I was 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.000 using music as as like therapy. Like I was writing 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.160 out there just to kind of pass the time. Because 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.040 I was out there, it was only me and like 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:44.760 six other black people at the school, so I didn't 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.720 really have nobody year. I didn't really have nobody to 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.679 talk to relate to. So I was just kind of 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.920 writing as kind of like a therapeutical thing, and I 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.080 started liking it. So I was like, man, let me 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:54.839 just you know, record a couple things. So I came 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.160 home on spring break and recorded a couple of records, 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:58.640 and that's kind of when I decided, like, you know, 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.560 I'm just gonna do this and see how works out. 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.920 When you say you had a racial situation with your coach, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.520 what happened. Basically, I had a coach that I mean, 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.520 he was racist to to you know, keep it keep yeah, 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:10.760 to keep it funky. We used to have it was 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.640 me and three other black players. We used to have 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.520 black only meetings before the games that you guys conducted 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.600 or that they He would be like, I just want 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.360 to meet with the three black guys and talk to 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.520 them about how they need to play to fit into 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.520 like this role. Like and then he would like say 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.240 the N word to us, like metaphorically, like so not 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.040 at us, but he's still saying it. Right. One time 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:33.800 he used this example where he was like, you know, 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.240 he was like, white people are the brain, Black people 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.400 are the soul. Mexicans are the heart because you know, 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.920 they work hard and you know, make everything go. He 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.360 was like, when you put all three of them together, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.319 it's a beautiful thing. But if you had to pick one, 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.920 wouldn't you rather be the brain like that? Like, well, 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.840 to be honest, if he wanted to use that reference, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:56.679 I would argue that Asian, Yeah, And I would also 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.160 argue that, you know, the heart's kind of just as 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.800 important as you know, white people might be like the 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.280 kneecapps or something. I don't know. I feel like we're 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.199 not bringing a lot to the table at twenty twenty, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.120 not in twenty twenty. Right now, shit's fucked up, man 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.120 A thousand cent. So yeah, Like I went through that situation, 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.000 and it's funny even with that situation, like the NAACP 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.840 was getting involved and stuff, and it was about to 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.280 be big, and I was younger, and so if I 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:23.920 had my brain that I had now, I would have 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:25.760 carried it all the way through and went because I 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.400 feel like I could have changed some things over. It's 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.680 an intimidating fight for a yeah. Yeah, Like when I 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:31.880 was in I was just like, bro, I just want 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.000 to go home. Bro, Like, if y'all can make it 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.240 to where I can go home after the season and 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.560 just like work, do my school work from home and 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.240 come back to graduate and leave again, then like we 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.120 got a deal. And my mom didn't want me to 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.320 do that. She wanted me to stay and fight, but 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.200 I just ended up saying like, you know, like I 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:48.480 just want to come home. So that's what they let 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:49.920 me do. After the season was over, I went home, 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.040 I worked from home, did all my school work from 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:53.720 home since it Then they kind of just passed me 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.040 because they were just like like we don't want to 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.160 get yeah, we don't want no smoke like so I 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.280 was kind of just turning in whatever guy's still coaching 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.760 he is Unfortunately there is Unfortunately yeah Fuyeah, And if 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.160 you've been to that town, it's like it's one of 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.360 those places that it's like, bro, nothing that never changed 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.360 here because there's nothing there, Like there's nothing there to 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.360 make it. You get what I'm saying, like change, and 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.760 that's the reason why that is one regret that I 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.120 do have. I hate having regrets in life. But if 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:17.640 I could go back, I would fight that, you know 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.360 what I mean, because he doesn't need to be culching, 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.520 like just to be completely Hey, put his name out 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.480 there so people can you know, I honestly legally can't. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.600 Oh you legally can't. Well, the coach of yeah, Northwestern Iowa, 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.199 U cocksucker. It's not hard to find though, Like people 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.240 can look at fine. Yeah, people can look in fine 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.840 with college y'all went to for sure for sure. But yeah, 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.800 it's unfortunate. Yeah, it's crazy and just really quick. The 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.240 crazy thing about it is that so he has a 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:46.840 nephew that's in the NBA right now that is complete opposite, 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.280 like he does like podcasts and stuff about racial discrimination 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.040 against black white and a white guy JJ Redick. I 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:55.600 told you, I can't. I can't say what it is, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.480 but like it's crazy the opposite though, like he is, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.640 like his nephew is like hard working fighting against like 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:05.920 racial discrimination. We'll talk about it. I listened to JJ 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.600 Red's podcast. He has he actually does have a great podcast. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.280 I just got hip to it like recently. Yeah that's dope. Man. Yeah, 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.880 I'm a huge basketball guy, so I actually don't listen 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.640 to as much. Man. It sucks because I listened to 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.440 like certain ship, like I like gravitate to an album 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.000 and then I'm just stuck with it, like I'm still 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:27.720 listening to fucking like Freddie Gives an Alchemist Alfredo, which 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.680 was incredible tough for sure, but and then like outside 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.360 of that, I'm just I'm just listening to sports talk 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:38.720 radio like a degenerate sports gambler. But yeah, man, that's 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.760 that's wild. I didn't know that about you, bro, Yeah, 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.680 you know it was. It was a crazy situation, you 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.400 know what I mean. And it's, uh, it's weird because 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.040 like when I write music, I never know what I'm 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:48.960 gonna touch on. So I feel like one day it's 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.400 something that I'm going to touch on, but I never 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.920 come into songs like purposely, and so I'm just like 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.920 one day it'll come spilling out and not talk about it, 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.160 you know what I mean. So yeah, yeah, no, that's wild. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.520 I think that I think that's some or too for 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.800 you to share that because I'm sure there's people who 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.960 are going through maybe similar situations. Maybe not on a 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.680 basketball team, but yeah, like whether it's their boss or 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.840 corporate environments anything. Yeah. Man, it's just fucked up right now, 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.440 like and get people got to stand up for what's right. Bro. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.320 Yeah yeah, I mean, but I will say in twenty twenty, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.000 because of how chaotic it is, like there always has 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.720 to be balanced, and I feel like like there's more 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:28.119 than ever, more white people than ever that's trying to understand. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.680 And I always tell black people in general, like, you know, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.160 don't criticize white people that are trying to understand that 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.080 maybe don't understand it, because that's step one. You know 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.840 what I'm saying, is them trying to the understand it. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:38.840 I think that what sucks about right now is like 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.800 kind of what you just said, Like if there's no 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:47.720 nuance and there's no room for progress and if it's 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.640 like a yo, fuck you off the rip because you're 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.680 not exactly where I want you to be as opposed 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.080 to like you're trying, you're trying, you know, Like you 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.480 know what I'm saying. I think that that's there's two 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.680 opposite ends up the spectrum, and I think that's the 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.320 other opposite end of the spectrum where it's like, you know, 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.200 there's people who, like you said, like they might not 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.640 have known about I mean, and what's craziest, Yeah, it's crazy, 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.680 But it's like you have to understand that people's reality 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.480 are their reality. Like some people genuinely are unaware, like yeah, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.480 this stuff was going on, but they didn't know what 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.240 they didn't know. They didn't know that it was like 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.040 and I tell people all the time, like you got 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.560 to be understanding bro to people people's environments, like you 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.200 know what I mean, Like there's people out there that 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.720 they have nothing against black people, but they literally might 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.360 not have a black person in their life. There might 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.960 be people who just don't grow up like in that environment. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.240 Like there's people who grow up in fucking Salt Lake 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.280 City and all they know is like white Mormon kids, 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.000 you know, because you know, and if they're trying to 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.320 be empathetic, I just think that they're we're losing like 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.160 a lot of nuance in the world where it's like 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.240 you're either this or you're this. Yeah, but what if 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.960 you're like here or here, like you know what I'm saying, 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.160 You're trying to get here, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.600 I think even politically, it's just fucked up because I 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.640 feel like you can't, like I can criticize Joe Biden 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.399 and still say I'm voting for Joe Biden, you know 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.200 what I'm saying, Like I I don't fuck with Joe 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.640 Biden really, but I'm not voting for Donald Trump exactly, 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.520 like you know what I'm saying. But I can let 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.400 like there's like nuance, like you got to be able 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:18.639 to like, you know, ask questions and be critical and 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.320 just because you're critical doesn't mean like you ain't you 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.200 ain't for whatever the fuck you know what I'm saying 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.159 exactly what the issue is that we're in an environment 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.960 right now where it's like everybody jumps out the window 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.760 for everything. Like it's like you can't be you can't 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.840 even have a conversation about something. It's like you got 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.280 to pick, you know what I'm saying, Like you have 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.679 to pick what it is right now, and if you 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.600 don't and you even play defense, then it's like, you know, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.719 then they're just gonna label you like okay, well then 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.680 you're over here, you know what I'm saying. And so yeah, 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.800 like I was like a big Bernie Sanders supporter and 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.480 and I have people like dig up tweets I said 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.760 about Joe Biden like Yo, man, you fucking you don't 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.000 even fuck with this. I'm like yeah, like obviously I'm 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.280 not like crazy about Joe Biden, Like he's probably the 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.680 least candidate on that side that I would lock out. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:07.199 But you know what the other side is terrible fucking hitler, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.680 you know, like the worst possible shit in the world, 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.960 Like I would vote for like any more, like literally 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.439 anyone else, Like it could be George W. Bush, Like 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.399 I'm running the g dub vote, you know what I'm saying, 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:22.920 Like fucking run I rack back. Joe Biden would have 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.439 to personally put out an attack on my family for 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.520 me to Joe Biden would have to put out like 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.639 an entire like this album, like just dissing every race, ethnicity, 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:36.800 sexual Come on, bro, Like it's crazy. Nah that that's 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.600 dope though. Man. So the fact you didn't start making 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.280 music till twenty fourteen, Now, were you writing before that 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.639 or was it something that like it was like I 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.399 wasn't really writing. I have some homeboys that rapped, and 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.679 I would like like kind of be with them in 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:54.439 the studio just on some kicking and shit, and I 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:55.560 would kind of like be like, oh, you know, you 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.320 should say this, you should say that. I used to 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.560 always tell me like you kind of like you kind 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.399 of tight like words and shit like that, you know 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.520 what I mean. But it was never something that I 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.280 was taking in any type of way, recording and nothing 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.280 like that, just because when I when I focus on 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.600 something and this is a good thing and a flaw, 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.840 I'm like tunnel vision when I focus on shit. So 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.800 I can't do basketball and music. I can't do music 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.200 and something else, you know what I'm saying. Like it's 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.520 like I have to focus on one thing, and you 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:22.760 know what I mean. Like that's just kind of how 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.959 I am. So I wasn't able to really do it 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:28.360 until basketball was off the table, you know what I mean. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.159 And so and it shows that way. But I've been 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.560 blessed because things have just kind of worked very fast, 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.639 you know, in comparison to other people that happen. I mean, 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.159 you're one of the Jedis man, Like, you're one of 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.480 those guys. It's like you know what you're getting with reason, 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.959 you know, that's that's love and that's that's I mean, 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.320 six years is not a long time man, especially in 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:49.800 hip hop, Like the people have been doing this shit 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.040 for twenty years before we you know, we know who 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.000 they are, you know what I'm saying. That's wow. So 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.920 twenty fourteen, you start making music, you leave the basketball 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:03.840 shit alone. Yeah, what was the in your opinion, the 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:08.400 moment that you realized there were some eyes on you 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:13.199 that like, Okay, this is this actually really might work. Yeah. Yeah, 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.880 I remember I was doing this thing called Reason Fridays 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:17.879 where I just like freestyle every Friday, and I was 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.400 putting it out and it was leading it was actually 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.280 leading up to there you have it. So I dropped 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.080 like ten of them, like ten weeks in a row 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.480 leading up to the drop of that project, and like 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.479 around the eighth one, things just kind of started picking up. 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.199 Like first I got posted by like a couple of 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:36.120 professional athletes that Brandon Jenning shout out to him. Yeah, 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.400 he looked out Todd Gurley. It was a couple of dudes. 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.280 And then then Baller Alert posted me, and then after 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.920 that like a few like low level label reps started 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:46.320 reaching out and we had a couple of meetings. So 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.600 that's kind of what I realized that some eyes were 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.400 on me. But then I started talking to a dude 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.480 named Tubby. Sean Holladay shout out to Tubby. He was 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.760 like the first high level executive. He was the VP 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.400 of A and rs AT I want to say Sony time. 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.800 And he brought me into his office and played him 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.200 a bunch of records. I played him Better Days, and 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.000 after Better Days, he was like, if you can get 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.679 me like six more of these, like then like you know, 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.560 we can we can go. But things never kind of 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.359 progressed just because you know, labels And this is no 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:19.240 offense to Tubby at all. Like I love Tubby because 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:20.800 he was actually one of the first people to like 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:25.280 start talking to people about me. But labels, the big labels, 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:27.560 they don't really want to develop artists. They kind of 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.120 want to keep an eye on you until you kind 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:30.760 of start bubbling, you know what I mean. They want 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:33.560 all the ground where they come in and they put 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.119 exactly you get what I'm saying, like, and so you know, 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.159 that was kind of where Tubby was. He was like, 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:39.439 you know, like I just want him to kind of 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:41.359 get cracking first, you know what I mean. And what's 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.840 crazy is that Tubby sent my music to top and 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.760 he wanted to do a joint deal with Top because 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.560 he was like, you know, I'm not gonna get him cracking, 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.879 but I know Top can get him cracking, and he 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:52.520 wants to do a joint deal with Top, but Top 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.199 doesn't two joint deals. So Top never even listened to 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.199 my ship. Like he was just like as soon as 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:59.280 Tubby started talking about a joint deal, he was just like, well, 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.040 you know, I'm not interested. And then when I met 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:05.200 Top years later, Top Diggs and his emails and it's 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:07.199 the same songs that I'm playing them in the studio. 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:08.679 He like, wow, like this ship has really hit the 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.840 unopened email. Like, yeah, I think that that is one 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:18.760 dope thing about TD, you know, is the the development process. 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:23.680 You know, like they there's a dope young MC who 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:25.520 you guys have under your roster that I've known for 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.080 a long time. He's wearing the chain. I don't know 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:30.760 if it's official, so I'm not gonna say his name, 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.520 but like, I mean, he's been on the label about 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:37.280 a year and like just working, yeah, yeah, you know, 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.720 working on his craft and they got he showed me 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:42.320 some videos that y'all shot, and like, you know, it's 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.960 like that kind of like attention to detail and like 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.400 you know that ship is as a fan, it could 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.560 be frustrating, yeah, from the fans perspectives, because I'm like, 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.360 I need a fucking Isaaver shot album? Bro. By the way, 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.040 glad he's on the album, but but no, just in general, 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:00.960 I just think that that's something then that's that's that's 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:03.600 missing from the game and the process now because like 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.320 you know, like you said, man, these labels low key 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.080 are kind of holing everybody man because they want you 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.200 to do everything. Yeah. Yeah, and then once it gets 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.960 to a certain point. Now obviously once the label comes involved, 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:18.040 like there are looks and radio play, you know, there's 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:21.719 things that that that they can offer that people still can't. Right, 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.439 There's there are still some things. But like if you're like, 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:29.680 you know, I would just say most artists just keep grinding, 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.440 grind a little longer, build up, build up your uh 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:37.240 you know, your your uh, your leverage with these fools 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.320 a thousand percent. Like I tell people that all the time, Like, 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:43.320 if you if you don't have a sitution, like sign 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.320 up with a major label. To me, in this day 0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:47.240 and age, it's just not smart. Now if you're gonna 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.840 sign with like a uh, well, when you don't have 0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.199 the leverage if you because you're gonna get a really 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.200 bad deal. You're gonna get a really bad deal regardless, 0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.040 there's nothing. You don't matter how talented you are, you 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:57.880 could be Michael Jackson, You're gonna get a really really 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.600 bad deal. So to me, as smart, the sign with 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.600 like some of these lower management companies and stuff like that, 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:05.560 like shout out to lvr N, they're doing an incredible job. 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:06.880 They're killing it. Yeah, you know what I mean, they're 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.040 killing it. You know, the tds, the Dreamvilles, whoever it is. 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.040 You know a lot of people look at TD A 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:13.359 is a major and we're not, you know what I mean, 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:15.080 we're independently. Yeah. No, That's why I've been trying to 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:16.760 tell people. It's like, Yo, if you're on TD, that 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:19.400 doesn't mean you're like Scope. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:23.600 so you're just strictly TD, just strictly TD. So exactly, 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:25.000 and the same thing with me, like we're trying to 0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:26.600 build up leverage that way, when we do take it 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:28.160 to a major, we get the deal that we want, 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:29.560 you know what I mean, we get the situation we 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.760 want which top is top. He can get whatever he wants. 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.399 But at the same time, it's it's mo organic to 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.040 be able to build that up and show your value first, 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.479 you know what I mean When you first became involved 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:45.679 with TD, like I feel like, what's dope about a 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:49.600 brand like TD? A brand like Dreamville is like their 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.840 fans are so open, like open armed, like yeah, you're 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.080 one of us now, yeah, so you automatically step into 0:24:56.160 --> 0:25:02.360 like to like twenty thousand die hard right like did 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.840 you see that right away? Like two one thousand percent? 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.520 Like TD fans are like the they're the dopest, most 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.760 crit overly critical in the world smart hip hop. They're 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.520 smart hip hop fans and sometimes almost too smart, Like 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:15.879 when I because I talked to a lot of my 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.040 fans sometimes to a fart, like my managers tell me, like, 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.720 you know, I gotta be more ducckt off, But but 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:23.600 I talked to them because I am a fan too 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.080 and I want to know how they feel. But sometimes 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:27.840 I tell them, I'm like, yo, y'all listen to music 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.480 sometimes and don't enjoy it, like because you're too busy 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.719 like being critical or trying to decode what it is, 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:39.119 like you're not even like like like roller Blunt. Yeah, listen, 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.400 it's music, you know, I mean, it's entertainment. But nah, 0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:43.760 shout out to all the TV fans and the Dream 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:45.199 Beale fans. I went tour with G I D And 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.320 realize that a lot of them cross over, you know 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:48.719 what I mean, like a lot of them do they 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:53.480 definitely love both of us? Yeah, what was what was 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.639 the record that caught tops attention? Do you remember like 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.040 which record or what it was that like, yeah that 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.560 got you that meeting with Top? Yeah, well better Days 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.960 is the one that really really caught tops attention. But 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.480 the one that made Top feel like, Yo, like this 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.959 dude can like make records because that's Top's big thing 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:10.439 right now. It's like, yeah, you can wrap it, can 0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.080 you make me? Can you make records? Exactly? And it 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:13.520 was on there you have It. It It was called fuck 0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.159 with Me, And when he heard that record, he was 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.800 like yo, like yeah, this dude, he can go you 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:19.840 know what I mean. And it wasn't even we weren't 0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.080 even supposed to sign like Moosa was taking me to him. 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.040 We were actually supposed to be doing something with Dave Gross. 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:26.480 Shout out to Dave Gross. He do a lot of 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.239 stuff with Nip, and we were supposed to be doing 0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.600 like a little partnership deal with Dave and Dave shows 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:31.760 a lot of love and he was gonna help me 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:33.680 build up a little bit. And then the plan was 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.080 to go to Top, and Moose kept listening to the 0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.479 music that I had, and without me even saying so, 0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.240 he just took it to Top. And then Top was like, 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:41.639 you know, like let's sit down and have a meeting. 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.399 And I was playing music for like an hour, Tops 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.320 not bobbing his head or nothing, like they're not giving 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.600 me nothing like he's showing Moose memes and shit, I'm 0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.560 like some most disrespectful me. That's the worst when you're 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.800 playing someone music and they're on their out of my 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:56.760 eye trying to like see if he's fucking with it, 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.960 like he's just not. And then fuck with me played 0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:00.359 and that was the first time that he kind of 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.160 like put his phone down and start bobbing his head. 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.680 And so I leave the meeting. I'm low key like depressed. 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.280 I'm like that shit did not go well. And Most 0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.040 tells me, he like, no, you gotta understand, my pops, 0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:09.840 Like if he didn't like it, you would you wouldn't 0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:11.359 have been here for a hour, like he don't. He 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:12.840 don't do that, you know what I mean. He was like, so, 0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:14.720 you know, he was like a deal might not happen 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.040 today or next month or whatever, but you know, like 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:18.800 let's just keep working and go back to Dave and 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.960 Recoop and we'll come back. And then like three days later, 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.119 Mos called me. He was like, I think my pop's 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.440 gonna sign you, and I was just like, what the fuck, 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.119 Like this is crazy, you know what I mean. And 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.679 so it happened way faster than I thought. And you know, 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:33.840 that was also part of the reason why I feel 0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.120 like it took a little longer for me to drop 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.560 some stuff after I signed, because me and Top still 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.320 had to get to know each other as people, you 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.040 get what I'm saying, Because it's such a people label, 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.320 Yeah for sure. Yeah, so we had to still build that, 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.280 you know what I mean. But it's a family business. 0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.639 People forget that, Like, yeah, yeah, it's a family business. 0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:51.720 Like Top, will I sign you if he don't, if 0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:53.920 he don't personally fuck with you, he'll just take you 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:55.320 and get you signed somewhere else and get a piece 0:27:55.320 --> 0:28:00.480 of contract like yeah, sh exactly and everything. No, that's crazy. Yeah, 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.200 I think that, uh, you know, it's been dope to 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.760 see your development because you've been dope for so long. 0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:11.280 And I think that your I feel like this album 0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.200 is like you're coming out party, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.000 that's how That's how I approached it too. There's so 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.480 many things happened over the last couple of years, Like, 0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.840 you know, I think that that Lambeau Truck record was 0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:25.480 so fucking special. On that Dreamville album obviously, you know, 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:27.200 like you said, you went on tour with with j 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.800 I D. And like, you know, you've been just kind 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.479 of like it's been like a tumbleweed, just accumulating more 0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.719 and more like momentum. And I think that, you know, 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.680 now's the time talk about the album, man, because there's 0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.840 a lot of personal shit on the album. There's a 0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.760 lot of moments on the project that were like like 0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.720 oh fuck, moments like damn, this shit is like crazy, 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:50.280 like thank you? How did you approach this shit? Did 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:54.320 you approach it kind of like, you know, because you 0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.880 didn't tell all your story obviously, yeah. Yeah, and I 0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:58.920 didn't even completely dive all the way into it. It's 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.200 funny some of the more person ones. We're records that 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.560 were supposed to be on my debut album that I'm 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.600 working on right now. So I consider this like a project. 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.360 So this is like a mixtape. It's like a mixtape 0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.840 kind of and what I consider it's funny because I 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:13.600 hate when artists do that, but now I'm that guy, 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.600 that guy. I'm definitely that guy. But yeah, it's kind 0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:18.440 of like a mixtape or a project or a collection 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.760 of songs. And it's funny because when we made it, 0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:23.640 we were like, damn, we need some shit for like 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.840 the core fans, like cause it's not personal enough, you 0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:27.360 know what I mean. And that's kind of when we added, 0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.040 uh the slow downs and the gossips and the falls 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:35.080 and then Windows Crow didn't get added until Top called 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.120 and wanted to add it, which is crazy because of 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.959 the content on there. But Top called and was like, nah, 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:41.720 that should be the outro. So that's kind of how 0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.000 we put it together. But I approached it from a celebratory, 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.880 like stant like like point of view, because there you have. 0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.640 It dropped originally in twenty sixteen, and so I got 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:52.440 a bunch of Day one fans that's been riding with me. 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.600 And they see me, they see me get signed and 0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.600 we redropped. There you have it, and they're like, yay, 0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.880 that's great for you, but like, where's the where's the 0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:00.880 new music? We've been We've been heart this shit, And 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.240 so I wanted to give them something that I felt 0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:05.920 like they would want to hear. So I approach it 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.520 like I'm not even a feature heavy type of artist, 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.480 but I was like, okay, you know what do I 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:11.840 want to hear as a fan? You know what I mean? 0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.000 I always want to hear zamg In on a record together, 0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.440 like let me go do that, you know what I mean? 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.680 Rap City for the rap heads is like fire fire, 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.959 you know what I mean? Yeah, she went crazy. It's 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.160 my favorite feature on the shit. So when it did that, 0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.479 I was like, you know, let me take care of home, 0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.120 let me bring soul out the cave. So we did 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.000 trapped In, we did Flick it Up. Trapped In didn't 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:29.520 make it, but Flick it Up of course made it. 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:31.680 So I approach it from that standpoint, like from a 0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.360 fan standpoint, and let's make fun records, Let's make you 0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.440 know what I mean, Let's get dope features, let's get 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.960 shited like that. Dope production, and then we came back 0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.440 and at it the personal elements, and so that's kind 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.560 of how I attacked it from putting it together as 0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:48.440 a whole project. Yeah, on the album Falls, a record 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.360 that I thought was really dope, because you know, the 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.400 first verse is you wrapping from the perspective of like 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:56.320 an upcoming female artist who you know, And I do 0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.560 think that that's something that's kind of unsett in music. 0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:03.719 Like I even think, like when we think of female mcs, 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:08.720 like I think, like, and it's unfortunate, like Rhap City's 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.520 on the album, and rhap City, to me is the 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:14.400 best to me female and one of the best overall overall. 0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:18.840 Like I think she's like top five at very very minimum, 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.920 top ten MC's period. No, No, she's like, yeah, she's 0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.120 up there, but like as a female, she's like that, 0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:27.400 She's like, yeah, she's But I feel like it sucks 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.760 because she's not overly sexualized. People don't give her that respect. 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.920 And that's not like I give her that respect, but 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:39.560 I feel like because she's not an overly sexualized female artist, 0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.240 she doesn't get the respect that she deserves. And that's 0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.560 just kind of like the world we're fucking in like 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.200 you know what I'm saying. It's it's tough, like but 0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.000 I thought that was dope, like like, was there anybody 0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:51.960 in mind like when you wrote that, Like like you 0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:53.480 don't got to see aybody's name, but was there some 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.360 well actually rap that's how we met. So on that 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.480 verse on on Fall, which I personally think is the 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.320 most important record on the album, because of that that 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.240 verse about female MC's and about and the second verse yeah, 0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:05.600 and the second verse too as well, you get what 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.440 I'm saying. And uh, but unfortunately, because of what we 0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.600 just talked about, I was a late Rahps City fan. 0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.720 I didn't get put onto Layla's wisdom. And I'm on 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.240 tour with rock and I'm listening and I'm like, yo, 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.000 what the fuck? Like like she is crazy? Yeah, her 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.160 and Kendrick had been putting in work for like ten year, 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:22.760 and I didn't. I was just wasn't hip, you know 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.120 what I mean. And so I wrote the verse and 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.000 I actually even say on the verse, I say I 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.360 had a combo with Layla's share share sharing some of 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:30.840 her wisdom when we came to kick it with me. 0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:32.880 So I wrote it from her perspective and I didn't 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:34.640 write the second verse yet, and she was following me 0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.920 on Twitter, and so I just reached out to her 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:38.600 and was like, hey, I wrote a verse about you, 0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.000 like I just want to send it to you so 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:41.800 that you could hear it, like it's special to me. 0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.000 And I sent it to her and she called me 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.000 and she said that she started tearing up listening to 0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:48.640 her because she she had stories about that where people 0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.120 were talking to her and telling her how she needs 0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.160 to like sexualize herself a little bit more. She was 0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.160 just trying to stick to the core. And she said, 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:56.840 you know, that whole she just wanted to be an artist, 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.800 like she felt that because that's all she She was like, 0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:00.480 I just wanted to rap and make music, you know 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.560 what I mean. And so that's how we made our connection. 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:05.600 And then after that, a couple months later, it was 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:06.920 when I said her, I can make it, and then 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.600 you know, we ended up doing that. So she was 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.280 definitely the one that was on them. So she was 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.440 she was she was the main behind that entire Yeah, 0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.160 for sure, I saw I thought that when I heard it. 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.520 I was like, Yo, this ship like just reminds me 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.560 of like like cause I've been a Rhapsody fan for 0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:26.320 so long. Yeah, and you know it's just I was like, 0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.520 how is she not more respected? And it's really like 0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.920 it's just because we have such a shallow industry that 0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.360 we're in and really just like fans are so also 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:39.120 shallow money. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.880 not every fan, like you know, it's unfortunate, and you 0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.120 know I used to be guilty of that when I 0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:44.520 was like younger, you know what I'm saying, Like, but 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:49.200 I definitely think like that's an important verse and then 0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.320 even the second verse, and this is something that I 0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.640 think is finally I feel like starting to kind of 0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:55.640 die out. I feel like a lot of the young 0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.600 artists that I'm meeting aren't drugged out of their minds exactly, 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.440 but for like two or three years bro, like twenty seventeen, 0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.640 twenty eighteen, last year, like it's it was rough because 0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:09.640 everybody we would have come by the radio station would 0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:14.760 be fucking high as fuck and no understanding the damage. 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.160 Like and that's why to me that that song, like 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.360 I said, to me, the most important record on the 0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:23.000 on the project, because it's like, not only is this 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.040 industry affecting, like the quote unquote street niggas that come 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.360 in and how they are with drugs and stuff like 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.000 that too. But that's the reason why even though he's 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:32.640 so loved and I love him too, you know, rest 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:35.600 in peace, mc miller. That's why I mentioned his name. Was, Yeah, 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.359 I heard you mention his name. I wonder if you're 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.480 going to catch some flat for that, Yeah, and I might. 0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.040 But at the at the end of the day, like 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.239 I pride myself on being like one of the more 0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:46.880 more honest artists out here, and I love mc miller, 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.320 and and it's a it's a tragedy what happened. But 0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:52.000 the reason why I mentioned his name was to show 0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.040 the industry, like it's for the people that's gonna say, well, 0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.400 it's just these artists that are affected by it, the 0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.719 ones that comes, and it's not this is just the 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.719 It's not just the littles. This is a great kid. 0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:04.759 Hill was like one of the great. He was like 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.440 one of the great and a great kid and a 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.680 great guy and a nice guy in this industry in 0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.640 my opinion, you know what I mean, destroy him. And 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.360 they're not just the young boys. It's not just the 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:15.880 young boys. And that was the reason why I did it. 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:16.960 I was like, you know, there's a chance that I 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.520 could catch some flat. But I feel like this is 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.239 so important for people to understand. Is that, like it's 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:25.400 not just the littles. It's like this industry affects everybody, 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:29.720 especially the kids that are stars young like Mac Miller 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:31.399 has been in this shit since he was like eight, 0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:33.000 you know what I mean. So it's like when you 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.000 grow up in this industry, you almost don't even have 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:38.760 a shot unless we start changing how we approach kids, 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:40.359 Like these are kids, bro, you know what I mean, 0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.320 And we're putting certain things in front of their face 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:44.840 and expecting them. You know, how are you, as a 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:48.000 fifteen year old, gonna be in the studio with one 0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.520 of your idols and he offered you a blunt and 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:51.879 not hit the blunt? Like you know what I'm saying. 0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:53.520 Like it is so it's like we got to start 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:57.080 taking more accountability or like if you're yet and like 0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.319 you said, I mean, weed is one thing, but like 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:00.680 how are you going to be in the studio with 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.240 whoever and let's say they got zams or they're sniffing lines, 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.960 like bro, and these are your idols, You're like, I 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:08.560 don't want to look like the guy that's like you 0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:10.279 know what I mean, Like it's the running joke like, oh, 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:11.959 Snoop pass me a blood, I don't smoke, but Snoop 0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:13.440 past me a blood, Like you know what I'm saying, 0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.160 Like that's like I've been, I've done that, but I 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.440 do smoke. Yeah, but I also like, yeah, I'm like 0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:22.440 Snoop passages like how are you not going to do 0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:28.000 exactly people? But but it's like, yeah, I think that, 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:29.960 you know, I've been, I've been kind of you know. 0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:31.800 Shout Out to Future is one of my favorite artists, 0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:33.440 but I was kind of critical of him pretty heavily 0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.440 when it came to like just the narrative he was 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.640 pushing and he's living his true through his music. But 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:39.840 I just think that there was just an air of 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.719 and it's still going on, you know, but I just 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.560 feel like there's this whole way of kids that were 0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:50.839 just influenced by by like that that kind of ship. 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.440 Like I think I think, you know, the fact like 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:58.080 mask Off was such a big song. The whole hook 0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:03.000 is a back purpose number one rec I got right 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.680 is playing. Yeah, it's playing twenty thousand times a day 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.800 on the radio, bro, and they're not bleeping out Moley 0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.440 birth is that they're not bleeping it out, Yeah exactly, 0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.759 And that's my whole thing is like like for me, 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.360 it's like, you know, I never I never mind catching 0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.879 flak if it's something that I stand on and it's 0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:24.400 in my morals, you ge what I'm saying. Like, And 0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.279 that's not to say that I'm perfect, because you know 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.000 there's times that I rap about you know what I mean, 0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:29.880 smoking or drinking or whatever in case I may be 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.000 because I do it, But I also tell the other 0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:33.680 sides of the story as well. And that's all I 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.480 say for people is like, you know, everybody live your truth, 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.000 you know what I mean, But understand that like when 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.479 you when you're giving money and fame and all this stuff, 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.000 like you still hold a certain level of responsibility. And 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:48.080 if it's artists that I am genuinely enjoying I'm a 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.000 fan of, I'm always gonna hold you accountable regardless. And 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:52.400 that doesn't mean that I don't like you, you know 0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:53.680 what I mean. It just means that I'm holding you 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:57.120 accountable because you're in a position that you know, you 0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:58.960 are a role model to somebody, you know, what I mean. 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.560 And if your fans, if I catch flackpard in your fans, 0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.359 you know, feel some type of way about it, I'm 0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.440 okay with it if it's something that I morally stand on, 0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:06.640 you know what I mean. So that's kind of where 0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.480 I'm at with it. Also on the project, you talk 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.960 about losing losing a child. Yeah, the issue of you know, abortion. 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.160 I think that's something that I never personally went through, 0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:17.800 but I know, you know a lot a lot of 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.840 people have. Yeah, yeah, And I haven't really heard anybody 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.399 really dive into that issue on record since, Like there 0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.080 was a comment in Lauryn Hill record when I was 0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.719 a kid that was like crazy, But yeah, why was 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:30.920 that important to address? Because I feel like that's something that, 0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:34.399 you know, man, that's a deep issue to dive into. Bro. Yeah. Yeah, 0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.319 for me, it's funny. As a defense mechanism, I do 0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.600 this thing where when I go through stuff that bothers me, 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.320 I just kind of forget about it, And so writing 0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:44.000 about it was actually like the first time I even 0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:45.600 talked about it. Like I didn't even tell my brother 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:47.959 as close as we are that that happened, just because 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:49.680 I just kind of wanted to forget about it, and 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:51.960 unfortunately it was in a situation where there wasn't a 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.239 lot of love in that situation, and you know, I, 0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:01.040 you know, was the person that you know, didn't didn't 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.000 necessarily like like tell her to do it, but at 0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.360 the same time was definitely like a guide trying to 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:07.960 lead her like this is going to mess up my 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:11.480 life or whatever the case may be. And I regretted it, 0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.480 not because I wanted a kid at the time, but 0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.600 just because of the fact that, you know, this is 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.880 something that is so sacred to a woman, and a 0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:21.320 woman should be able to have that, you know what 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.799 I mean, which she still ultimately had that choice, but 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:25.680 I was being guiding and so that's why I talk 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.919 about it in the record, to hold myself accountable and say, 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:30.320 like I need to grow up, like that's that's childish 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.719 to have that mindset. That's childish to be that way 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:34.080 and to think that way, you know what I mean. 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:38.480 And so how long was that that was probably like shit, 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:42.000 like two and a half years ago, oh shit, yeah recent, yeah, 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.480 yeah exactly. And so for me, it was just like, 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.319 you know, I wanted to hold myself accountable for that 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.560 and speak about it and just for anybody else that's 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.840 in that situation to know, like, you know, men have 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:54.839 to be men, and you make the bed, you gotta 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:56.279 lie in it, you know what I mean. And it 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.080 should be her choice. And if she wants to do that, 0:39:58.120 --> 0:39:59.839 then cool. If she doesn't want to do it, then cool, 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.560 But it should always be their choice, you know what 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.239 I'm saying. So I wanted to hold myself accountable or that, Yeah, no, 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:07.080 I think that that's some real shit. Like I think 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.960 that you know if you're like, uh, like your guide 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.719 in your narrative, like hey, look we don't work with 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:15.279 each other, like you know what I'm saying, Like you 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.680 know what I mean, And sometimes like you're pretty much 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:19.920 saying like, look I really gonna be around like that, 0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:21.880 you know what I mean. And then that kind of 0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.560 influences her decision and you know, as opposed to just 0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.440 being like it's on you you want to do exactly 0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.239 like you know where we are, Like she doesn't need 0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.120 you to remind you mind, you of where you guys are, 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:33.480 you know what I'm saying. So that's my whole thing. 0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.680 It's like, you know, y'all can have a completely have 0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:38.920 an adult conversation about what the circumstances are and all 0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:40.920 of that. I think that that part should always be had, 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:42.239 you know what I mean. But it shouldn't be a 0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:44.799 guiding conversation, you know what I mean. It should be 0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.759 just a conversation around where we are, you know, money, situation, 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.640 love and for sure, and then you know, ultimately you 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.520 make your decision. Isn't you make your decision? How did 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:59.520 the Showstop record come together with the Kendrick we'll call 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.799 him Adelte Yeah kind of like yeah, yeah, yeah, cause 0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:04.319 that was like a shout out rock I kind of 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.240 took a swag on that. I saw Wind going crazy. 0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:07.560 I was like, I need some I need some ad 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.319 libs right right right right right right yeah by the way. Yeah, 0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.920 but no, like how did uh like, did you just 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:16.640 grab those vocals from like a session or did he 0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:21.560 come in and nah? Yeah, that sounded like the record 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:25.000 from the Black Panthers soundtrack with Travis? Was it off 0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.600 of that? Not? The ideas were birth though from that 0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.600 and when it was birth from those records, and I 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.160 had show Stop already and we were already talking about 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:34.200 it being a single, and I was trying to get 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.399 a verse. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, exactly, of course, 0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:37.919 like I'm a swing for the fences. I was trying 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.880 to get a verse, but I started to slowly realize 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.480 in the conversation that ad libs are more reasonable, you 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.320 know what I'm saying. And it's funny cause fans be 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.560 giving me slacked it like, oh, Kendricks, Oh he just 0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:49.799 hit the ad libs. I'm like, it took me six 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.160 months to get these ad libs, Like y'all better enjoy 0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.120 these ad libs, like it took me a long time 0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:56.400 to get those ad libs from dot you know what 0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:57.960 I mean, like to a point where I thought they 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.160 weren't coming. And it's funny because even when he get 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:01.759 the ad libs, he did a whole track of him 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.160 and I still like, we're like taking some and plugging 0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.160 them in different places and stuff like that, because he 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:08.319 hit me and he was like, you know, like I 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.120 did the ad libs, but it feels a little crowded. 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:11.759 And then when I sent him the record back, you know, 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:13.879 we plugged him in certain places, he was like, Okay, cool, 0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:15.880 that feels more natural or whatever, because he even when 0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:17.279 he sent them to me, he didn't really like how 0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.480 it sounded, so he wasn't gonna want it to come 0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:20.839 out that way, you know what I mean, And so 0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.120 I had to rearrange him and make it feel like 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:24.680 a record and then, uh, you know, he gave me 0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.759 his blessing on it. But yeah, shout out to do. Yeah, 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.680 it's crazy because you would think, like coming to TD, like, 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.120 I feel like fans expect you to just get the 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:36.200 automatic Kendrick record. Yeah. I think that's happened for a while. Man, 0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.080 Like they think it's like and that's what I like, 0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.319 y'all think it's been like that for a very long time. 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.279 They think it's like a TD castle you walk in 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:44.279 and then you just get records from everybody. I'm like, 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.160 the feature like it was hard to get the que 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.160 a fucking menu or something like its Q record is 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:54.279 crazy though, thank you. The first he did not make 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.600 me play. I'm glad he didn't because I'm horrible and golf. 0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.200 But uh nah, that was actually one of the ones 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:02.560 that my manager chem is he also manages Q, and 0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.200 so he pitched it to him and but I didn't. 0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:06.640 I wasn't sure if he was gonna do it, you 0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.239 know what I mean. But he came through and he 0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.560 killed that shit though, fuck with Q, man, because Q 0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:14.239 will all like, it don't matter if you're major, Like 0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.960 if he fucks with you, like, he'll do the verse exactly. 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:18.840 And if he's like in that headspace like I like 0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:21.040 Q because it's like that one thing. If he fucks 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:22.759 with you, he'll do the verse. And then also like 0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.719 if Q was working, like he's working and you know 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.040 what I mean, show like you'll have like I remember 0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.920 I had. I was listening to like like Burner Styles 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:32.880 p album and that food was on there, and I'm like, man, 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:34.640 that's why I cused the Realist because he'll tap in 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.040 with whoever, like I know him and Freddy got some 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:38.800 ship on the way that I just heard. That's crazy. 0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.120 I'm already knowing that's probably crazy, super crazy. But I 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:42.879 need to give Freddy or some ship shout out to Freddy. 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.200 Freddie is hard bro. What'll make it happen? Man? Yeah, no, 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.640 I definitely need to do that. All right, So the 0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:50.880 album comes out, well, let's just we're gonna drop this 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:52.600 on Friday, so it's like being nice. So so the 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.839 album is out. Because the album's out, the albums out, 0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:57.560 go listen to new Beginners right now? Can we Hey, okay, 0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:01.680 so can we can we talk about the Logic lines? Yeah, yeah, 0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:04.919 let's do it. I've known Logic for a very long time. 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.480 I don't take him as a culture vulture. Now. Obviously 0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.680 I'm a white man in hip hop, so you know, 0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.600 you can think what you want about that. Yeah, but 0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.479 you know, I kind of have known dude since about 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.360 twenty thirteen, and you know, I know him as like 0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:25.040 a hardcore hip hop fan. Like that's how me and 0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:29.160 him connected was through conversations about like a quimini, you know, 0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.880 just just a lot of rap shit. Yeah, he seems like, 0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.200 I mean, he's a very disliked guy the last five 0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.520 or six years. But what is what's the issue with 0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.960 Logic and why did he get that those bars? Or 0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.480 for me, it's funny because that's the misunderstanding of the line. 0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:46.879 And I learned a good lesson on that. I learned 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.080 two lessons timing as far as reading the room and 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.120 also like if you're going to say something, you need 0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:53.840 to kind of go in a little bit more detail. 0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:56.160 When I rap, I just kind of rap about what 0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:59.600 I'm feeling at the time. So I too, have loved 0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:03.640 Logic since like damn near twenty ten and kind of 0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:05.279 going off for what we said earlier, like if I'm 0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:07.239 a fan of you, I hold you accountable. A lot 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.080 of fans thought that I was saying he's a culture 0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:12.320 vulture of hip hop. That's not what I was talking about, 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.719 you know what I'm saying. And so from a hip 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.759 hop standpoint, you can't talk about the last ten years 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:20.040 of hip hop without talking about Logic, like he's he's 0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:22.120 in that category. You know, he's not as big as 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:26.839 Kindrick in them, but he's in that category. That yeah, 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.320 one thousand percent. So what I was speaking about was 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.280 the fact that Logic is a black man, and Logic 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:36.560 is somebody that has talked about black plight, black struggle. 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:38.239 That's what he talked about in his come up. And 0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.520 then when he got to a certain album, I think 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.040 it was Everybody, and he touched on a lot of 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.600 issues that was going on in America, suicide, transgender's gaze, everybody, 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:50.080 and I personally felt like he didn't touch on black 0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:53.600 lives matter enough. So when I said the line about 0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:56.799 the culture, I just meant black culture is what got 0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:58.480 you to the point that you're at. So when you're 0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.560 at the top of your platform where now you're ready 0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.080 to explode to the world to have this huge artist 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:07.120 like talk about us too. And that's what I meant 0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:10.279 by that, And that just comes from my passion for 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.759 black culture in general and black lives and what's going 0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:15.560 on with black people and stuff like that. I mean, 0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:17.759 it came from that perspective, you know what I'm saying. 0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.359 They had nothing to do with hip hop, had nothing 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.560 to do with records or rapping and nothing like that. 0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:23.440 Like I'm a Logic fan, but like I said earlier, 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:26.080 like I hold people accountable, I would never want somebody. 0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:27.960 I would want somebody to do the same thing with me. 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:29.920 If I get to a certain platform and now I'm 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.160 about to have that album that explodes, It's like, you 0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.680 still gotta remember why you're doing this, which is to 0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:37.840 you know, bring awareness, you know what I mean to 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.440 people and stuff like that. Yeah, I think I actually 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.680 was not a fan of that album. That's probably, uh, 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:44.520 And that was exactly I think a lot of people 0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:47.280 that were hardcore Logic fans weren't. Y. Yeah, yeah, honestly, 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.960 like this last album that just dropped is incredible. Was 0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.480 the last album, like the first album I've fucked with 0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:57.160 since his second album is Incredible journey or true storyline. Ye, 0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.840 no pressure is incredible. No Pressure's fire. But yeah, I 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:01.759 think that, like, I don't know, man, I just think that, 0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:05.520 you know, I think that's a fair criticism, you know. 0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.719 I think that album everybody was like, I think he 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:10.560 was dealing with a lot of the biracial shit. He's 0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.480 probably meant. Yeah, I think that he was just probably 0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:15.680 people don't know my logic is black, Yeah, no, which 0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.279 is I think he was probably having a lot of 0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:18.759 meetings and stuff like that, you know. I mean, I 0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:20.600 don't want to speculate too much, but I think that 0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:22.120 people were telling them like, this is what you have 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:23.960 to do to get to the next to the next level, 0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.520 you know what I mean. And that's my whole thing is, 0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:28.439 you know, I'm just if I'm a fan of you, 0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:30.319 you know what I mean, I'm going to I'm, like 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:32.160 I said, I'm one of the more honest artists in 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.880 this shit. I don't I don't necessarily, I don't have 0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:37.560 the goals like everybody else has to be the greatest 0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.680 of all time, because I don't believe that exists. Like 0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:41.480 in ten years, there's going to be somebody that's going 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.440 to tell you NBA young boys better than Kendrick. It's 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:49.239 going to happen like so already generation of fans right 0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:51.600 now that you will tell you that's a straight face exactly. 0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.759 So for me, it's like, I just want to make 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:57.160 impact and I want to I want to broker honest 0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.720 conversations and try to make an impact to where people, 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:03.719 you know, elevate their their honesty, their accountability, their responsibility, 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.200 whatever the case may be. And so, but like I said, 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:08.400 I'm not going to escape my accountability in it. I 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.520 didn't read the room you know logic when I wrote it. 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.560 He wasn't retired. He's retired now. He's trying to do 0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:13.839 his own thing, you know what I mean. And so 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.640 that is something that if I could go back, I wouldn't. 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.560 I just wouldn't say the line out there because it's like, 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:20.319 let him do his thing, you know what I mean. 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.160 And so it would be a conversation that if I 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.160 ever met him, I would have with him personally still, 0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:27.640 but I wouldn't necessarily put it out saying for the record, 0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:29.040 I don't think there's a chance in hell he doesn't 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:30.319 know who you are. Like you said, Oh no, he 0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.799 definitely knows, but I like the it's like, bro, you're 0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:36.040 you're a hip hop stand and this is top dog entertainment. Yeah, 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.959 you know, and he's a Kendrick stand exactly exactly. You know. Yeah, 0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:41.360 but he had shout out to Logic though, like his 0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:44.040 career musically, like I'd be lucky if I was able 0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:46.480 to reach that level. You know. I'm glad you made 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:49.319 that clear because, like you know, a lot of people 0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.040 took it from a hip hop standpoint, which I can't 0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:52.680 blame him. And it's funny because when they dropped him, 0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:54.400 like oh damn, it does sound like I'm saying that, 0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:57.319 like like it does sound like yeah, because I was thinking, like, 0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.040 you know, like, yeah, I know, Logic is like a 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.040 real hip hop head like this guy. You know, it 0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:05.080 works with no idea. You know. No, you can't, you can't. 0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:06.720 And that's what I'm saying, Like you can't say Logic 0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:08.960 isn't a hip hop guy, and that's not what I 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.880 was saying. But you know, no, I understand what. I 0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:13.719 understand why you said that though. Yeah, I think that 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:15.960 what's going on right now, man, it's very important. Like 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.680 that's why I tell everybody like you know, if you're 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.920 let alone, just the normal citizen who has empathy and 0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:25.719 and and gives a fuck about your neighbor or just 0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:28.359 you know, it's hard to get people to care about 0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:34.640 shit that doesn't directly affect them. But specifically, if you 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:40.319 are a part of any sort of black culture, and 0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.680 I mean that as far as you know. You could 0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:48.200 be a radio personality, you could be somebody who does 0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:51.080 YouTube shit, you could be whatever. But if you're benefiting 0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:55.040 off the back of black culture, Like bro, I've literally 0:49:55.160 --> 0:50:00.200 made my entire career off of black music. That's my 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:04.120 whole life revolves around black culture since I was fifteen 0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:08.279 sixty really since I was like twelve even earlier, you know. 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.480 But like you know, I had a very interesting upbringing, 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:13.520 Like I was raised in a house where my best 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:15.839 friend was black and his grandma lived with me and 0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:17.480 his sister lived with me when I was a kid, 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:21.000 you know, So, like it frustrates me so much to 0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:23.319 see almost like you just said, with the logic thing, 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:26.000 no logic obviously African American man. Yeah, so you know, 0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:29.319 it's a little different, but it frustrates me to be like, yo, 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:33.319 how are you like talking in and out of Drake 0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.120 songs every day on the radio and like afraid to 0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.239 fuck up your social media so now. And it's crazy 0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:40.959 because you posted a video on Instagram talking about that, 0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:43.439 and I got a lot of respect for you when 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:44.560 you said that, you know, I mean I saw your 0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:46.200 Instagram post when you said that. You're like, you know, 0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:49.360 every day you're talking in and out of Drake songs 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:52.400 and black culture. You're going to clubs and playing black music. 0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:54.480 There's black people there. These are the people that are 0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:57.360 literally affording you your life. And then when something happens, 0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:00.759 you know, it's like you're like in for when it's convenient. 0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:02.880 It's like you're tiptoeing in and out of the fucking 0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:05.799 like bro like. But when ship hits the fan, like 0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:07.800 you gotta like you gotta scream at the top of 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:09.919 your love exactly and shout out to Jack Carlow because 0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:11.480 I even hit him up and reached out to fan 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:14.799 because uh, he was he was front line when that 0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:17.680 ship was going on. He was marching every single day, 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:20.840 posting ship every single day, Uh, speaking at pep rallies 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:23.000 and stuff like that. Like like I feel like I 0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:25.320 fuck with that, and like I always say, I always 0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:26.759 you know, play the other side of the fence and 0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:30.719 have accountability to the black people. Because Eminem did this 0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:32.880 ship on the BT Awards where he made like a 0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.560 free and they shipped on him, and I feel like, 0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:37.600 you know, black people have to stop doing that as well. 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:39.799 It's like when when there are white people that want 0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:42.400 to join the side, you know, and that was before 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:45.359 years is that it was like two three years ago, 0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.080 and I feel like I thought it was dope. I 0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:50.200 this is the biggest white artist from a rap standpoint 0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:51.840 in the world. He's always been on this side of 0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:53.880 the fence. It's not like he's doing this for like, 0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:55.320 He's always been on the side of the fence. And 0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:57.000 then we kind of shipped on him. You know. I'm 0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.040 always hold my people accountable to him, say like that's 0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:00.759 not cool, you know what I mean, Like Eminem is 0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:03.200 somebody that's been on our side of the culture. You know, 0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:06.520 we have to tackle this ship together if we're gonna 0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:08.120 be able to make leeway, you know what. I Yeah, 0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:10.080 I think to like someone like him, you know, like 0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:13.879 he's got fans one hundred percent that are racist. Yeah, 0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:15.799 And he put that on the line, like if you 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.920 are racist, don't like don't support me, don't fuck with me. 0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:22.000 There's something because because like I'm real close with a 0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:25.040 rapper named Ritz who's a white dude. Okay, that's actually 0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:29.919 hilarious by the way. Yeah he's fired Okata check out 0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:33.600 and and like you know, you know, I got a 0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:35.880 boy named Jelly Roll and like a lot of times 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:37.960 even like Tech nine, like is my boy, and like 0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:39.960 I've done a lot of stuff with strange music and 0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:44.480 that just that world, and that world is mostly white fans. Yeah, yeah, 0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:47.080 and a lot of them are racist. Bro. There's a 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:49.080 lot of Tech nine fans that are racist as fuck. 0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:52.160 That's the same, bro, like straight up and like and 0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.200 and tackle tell you that too. You know what I'm saying. 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:57.640 I'm sure now you know, he's got an incredible following, 0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:01.760 but there's like a real faction of hip hop fans 0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:05.520 that just that are real like maga ass motherfuckers. Bro. Yeah, 0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.839 it's like it's it's very disappointing. But like you said 0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:12.319 about the eminem thing, like he might piss off a 0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:15.040 huge part of his fan base by saying something, But 0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:18.759 what he might also do is even if it's a 0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:22.160 thousand people who hear that freestyle, ye and it teaches 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.359 them something and then they go google it and then 0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:28.440 they're like, like they they become more educated about the 0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:31.640 situation where they change their stance on shit like Eminem 0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:34.439 influences people not thought they might be people who drink 0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:38.920 Monster Energy and have you know, Fox Racing cargo shorts. 0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:42.520 But but I'm saying, like he can reach people like 0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:45.719 and and there's gonna be there's gonna be parts of 0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:47.640 the of his fan base and just anyone anyone in 0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:49.840 the country that just aren't that they're just this is 0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:52.200 where they are. They're not gonna budge. Yeah, I think 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.280 it's about thirty and thirty. I think it's thirty percent 0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:56.600 over here, thirty percent over there, but that last, you know, 0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.200 forty percent, that's in the middle. You know, you fight 0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:01.960 for those, you know what I'm say. And even more importantly, 0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:05.560 there might be other white celebrities that wanted to say 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.000 something and were about to say something and then saw 0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:11.000 Eminem get killed and step back. And so that's another 0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:12.600 reason why I feel like, you know, we can't do that, 0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:16.279 is because you know, that's those could have It could 0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:19.240 have been other artists or celebrities or whatever that wanted 0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.040 to say something to stand with us, and it's like 0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:22.680 we take a step back by killing them because they 0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:24.399 might be with shit. Like Image jumped out the window 0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:25.880 and they went crazy on him. I'm just gonna I'm 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:27.120 just gonna chill back, you know what I mean, and 0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:29.360 not say nothing. And it's like we need every single 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:31.120 voice that we can get, you know what I mean, 0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:33.240 and trying to change it, you know what I mean. So, yeah, 0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:36.680 that's how I feel. What do you think if someone's 0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:42.640 watching this and they're like kind of just unsure of 0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:45.480 the things that they could probably do to, you know. 0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:47.640 For me, like I was one of those guys who 0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:50.239 was like you know, and I've been you know, anytime 0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:52.839 there's I mean, you know, I grew up like I said, 0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:54.680 my best friend Rams is the best man at my wedding. 0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:57.799 Like we would be riding around in his neon when 0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:00.640 I was like fourteen. He was older than me, and 0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:02.919 we get pulled over and this food yanked out the car, 0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:06.239 put on the curb, and then they would be interrogating 0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.440 me like why are we hanging out? Why are you 0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:11.319 hanging out with this like older black kid, you know. 0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:14.040 And so it's always been something close to my heart. 0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:18.879 But like for me, it's like okay, like I want 0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:21.080 to put my money where my mouth is, but I 0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:23.279 didn't know where to donate because you know, you never know, 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.080 like with so many of these that's real. It's like 0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:28.719 it's it's so agenda. Like, yeah, so I just called 0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:31.479 Killer Mike anytime I got any sort of questions about that. 0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:34.239 That's a good person to call Killer Mike. I say, hey, man, 0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:36.359 I really want to post, I want to donate some money, 0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.719 and I want to shed a light on some charities, 0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.680 like just tell me what you tell me what to do. 0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:44.399 He's a good leader in this ship. Yeah, and he's like, yo, 0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:46.520 there's you know this, this this cool. You know what 0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.120 I'm saying. And then obviously, you know, protesting, And I 0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:50.600 think I might have called it. I might have caught 0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:52.680 the rona when I was out protesting. I might have 0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:54.920 that might have been where I got it. But but 0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:57.319 I do think that there's like like it's I know 0:55:57.400 --> 0:56:01.600 that a lot of people get shipped for being social media, 0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:05.040 you know, like quote unquote like oh you're doing this 0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:06.520 for the grammar or whatever it can and there's a 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:09.000 lot of that. Yeah, but I do think either way 0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:10.960 it's you know, it's better than nothing. I think the 0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:13.239 Black Square shit was kind of cordy, to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, 0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.440 I feel like it's like looking back, Yeah, looking back 0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:18.080 on it, I was like, uh, you know, that didn't 0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:20.680 really help. But I think it's a growing process. And 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:23.960 like I have because I worked at a I worked 0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.520 at a corporate company before I got signed. That's where 0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:27.560 I was working at. So I had a lot of 0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:30.000 white co workers and friends still and uh, some of 0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:31.160 them even reached out to me, was like, you know, 0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:32.920 what do we do? And for me, I just think 0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:34.360 that the biggest thing that you can do in the 0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:37.120 day to day life is to just try to understand 0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:40.040 what's going on and do your research and empathize with 0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:43.560 it and you know, hold other people accountable. Like I 0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:45.520 think that that's the bare minimum that you can do. 0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:48.520 Because people that are of that world that are naive 0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:50.400 quote unquote, Like, you're not naive. You grew up in 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:52.200 this black culture. But there's other people that are naive 0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:54.160 because they didn't grow up here, but they do. They 0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:56.800 are humans and they feel for us now because they're aware. 0:56:57.120 --> 0:56:58.520 So I tell them, like all the people that are 0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:00.920 in your circle, you just have the whole them accountable 0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:03.040 when y'all are having these conversations and stuff like that, 0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:05.399 like you can't be afraid to speak up to them 0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:08.600 because that's your quote unquote friend or whatever. There's like 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:12.000 these white people conversations that happen where there's no other 0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.919 races around exactly, and then that's when you really find out, 0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:17.000 like that's a fact. Whether it's people you work with, 0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:20.160 or you might be at a fucking liquor store or something. 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:22.920 Somebody in line might say some slick shit to you 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:25.000 because you're another white guy and they think that like, oh, 0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:27.040 it's all cool, like you know what I mean? Bro? 0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:29.920 Like what? Bro? What? And those are the conversations that 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:34.200 I feel like everybody like, that's not that's not cool, 0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:35.320 like you know what I mean? And those are the 0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:37.920 conversations that you gotta hold people accountable, you know, at 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.280 the bare bare minimum, and then you know, if you 0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:42.320 want to go that extra mile, you know, you do 0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:46.000 do your research. I advise everyone of Facebook too. That 0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:49.280 place is the fucking pool of the Internet. It's the worst. 0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:51.120 It's up there with Twitter. Twitter. I think it's like 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:56.360 the Twitter's fail book is where like the memes and 0:57:56.400 --> 0:57:58.840 like the fake news story, bro, when my mom has 0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:01.760 hit me with so much like is this true? And 0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:06.160 I'm like, Mom, did you see that on face? Yeah? 0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:13.640 Like listen then no, probably not true. There By the way, 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:16.560 shout out to Kendrick. I got to address the whole 0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:19.000 the rumor of him leaving TD. He put that to 0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:24.240 bed today. You see Thelues Animal. Yeah, No, I thought 0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:25.920 it was really really funny, and I think that, like, 0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:29.680 you know, I hope he's putting out some music soon, 0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.880 but is it is it kind of like the Gift 0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:36.560 and the curse of the TD thing because any sort 0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:39.200 of like like Kendrick is like, you know, I put 0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:42.919 him Top five. Ever, Yeah, I always tell people because 0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:45.080 there's like og hip hop fans and tell me I'm crazy, 0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:47.400 But I'm like, yo, you're gonna put Biggie in the 0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:50.800 top five, which is fair off the two albums, Yeah exactly, 0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:56.360 But Kendrick got yeah, three classics and we're not talking 0:58:56.360 --> 0:59:01.800 about Section eighty yeah, or the Kendrick or or you know, 0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:04.200 even untitled you know, but like we're just talking about 0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:07.560 his three official YEA Good Kid, the Butterfly, and a 0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:10.640 Don Yeah Sion eighties up there with that with those 0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:13.960 rest you know what I'm saying. But but yeah, I 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:16.959 just feel like everywhere you're gonna go, Yeah, you're gonna 0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:20.360 get Kendrick questions. It's funny because I was just talking 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.400 to Punch about this the other day. I don't think 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.520 that there's been an artist that's been in my position 0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:27.440 as far as like the amount of pressure. And what 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:29.320 I mean by that is that, you know, I'm the 0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:32.400 first artist that has to be broken without Dave Free 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:34.600 being around. He hasn't been involved in any part of 0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:35.880 my career. And that's not a shot at him. He 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.400 just left when I was coming in, So that's timing. 0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:41.720 There hasn't been an artist, a new artist to drop 0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:44.720 when the thirst level of the bigger artists has been 0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:47.080 this high, you know what I mean. It's been three years. 0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:49.160 It's been three years, and it's been four for Zay, 0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:51.200 and it's been like three for Sizza, it's been like 0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:54.760 two for for Rock two and a half got earlier 0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:58.200 actually like a year and a half ago. You get 0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.560 what I'm saying. So for all the bigger artists, there's 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.560 never been a younger artist to drop when there's been 1:00:03.600 --> 1:00:05.480 that first level that high, you know what I mean. 1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:07.360 So It's like I'm in a position where I have 1:00:07.400 --> 1:00:09.200 to make people care, I have to do the creative 1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:12.720 direction without Dave, and everybody just wants to die album, 1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:15.120 you know what I mean. So I'm definitely under like 1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:18.720 the most pressure that any TV artist has been under. 1:00:18.760 --> 1:00:21.360 But at the same time, I always try to look 1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:23.479 at pros and cons in every situation instead of saying 1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:25.320 woe was me, And the pro is that like all 1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:26.520 eyes are on me, you know what I mean. And 1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:27.880 I know that there's gonna be a lot of fans 1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:30.280 it's just like you all reasons dropping cool, he's out 1:00:30.280 --> 1:00:33.280 the way, you know, like where's the next album or whatever, 1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:35.480 But there are gonna be those handful of fans that 1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:38.480 still go listen because you know, it's still TD. And 1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:40.480 I think that this project is strong to where they're 1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:42.320 gonna know, you know what I mean, that like, oh, 1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:45.320 this dude is not just like another dude that's just dropping, 1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:47.160 Like this is a very very strong project. So that's 1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:49.240 what I'm looking forward to. What your uh, you know, 1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:53.400 I know you got Isaiah on the album, and I've 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:55.640 been waiting for like you said, man, yeah, I think 1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:58.439 he's one of the greats. I think he's somebody who 1:00:58.440 --> 1:01:00.720 don't get enough. I mean, also he hasn't put an 1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:04.360 outbount Yeah exactly, it's like to the other side of it. 1:01:04.680 --> 1:01:07.880 But what's your relationship like with him? You know, I think, 1:01:08.120 --> 1:01:10.880 like I said, there was there was just there's just 1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:13.280 been so many rumors about his career and like you know, 1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:14.760 I know he's still on the label. I think for 1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:16.440 a while there there was like some speculation that he 1:01:16.520 --> 1:01:19.640 might have not been on the label. But like what's 1:01:19.720 --> 1:01:22.440 y'all's relationship in dynamic? We have a great relationship and 1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:25.200 shout out today me and around the same age. And 1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:29.520 I appreciate a because he's been through a lot of 1:01:29.520 --> 1:01:33.360 shit that I'm still going through and he holds me accountable. 1:01:33.720 --> 1:01:35.400 Without going into detail, he called me and help me 1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:37.920 accountable about the logic shit just about like bro read 1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:39.960 th room, you know what I mean, like not necessarily 1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:43.200 getting on me about what I said, but just like 1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:45.560 why you know what I mean? And so you know, 1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:46.880 there were things that he said that I agree with. 1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:48.400 There was things that he said I didn't agree with. 1:01:48.400 --> 1:01:50.080 But at the end of the day, I love anybody 1:01:50.080 --> 1:01:52.120 that will call me that cares about me and hold 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.080 you accountable because that is a tough conversation to have 1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:55.600 with anybody that you love, you know what I mean. 1:01:55.640 --> 1:01:57.240 And so there's the kind of people you want around you, 1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:59.040 those kind of people you want around you one hundred percent. 1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:00.200 And so you know, I fuck was that. We have 1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:02.160 a great relationship. I tell people by the time, Zay 1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:04.640 is a lunatic and that's part of the real you know, 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:07.160 part of the delays in his music as well, is 1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:11.360 that he's fucking crazy. Like Zay, He's he's very very 1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:13.840 detailed about his music. He cares about it a lot. 1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:15.720 He cares about his music a lot, a lot. He's 1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:18.320 very connected to it. And so, you know, until it's 1:02:18.360 --> 1:02:21.080 where he wants it to be, in the records that 1:02:21.160 --> 1:02:23.479 he wants, and him and Top get on the same 1:02:23.560 --> 1:02:26.120 page about that because it has to be records that 1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:28.160 he loves and is connected to, and it also has 1:02:28.200 --> 1:02:30.760 to be records that Top you know, believes can elevate 1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:34.000 his you know, his status. So you know that that 1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:36.040 that takes a minute sometimes and it's definitely a pushing 1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:39.000 pool thing because Top is probably the hardest critic of 1:02:39.080 --> 1:02:42.600 music that I've never heard it met. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. Like, yeah, 1:02:42.640 --> 1:02:45.440 I've heard so, but shout out to Zayoh. I don't 1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:48.880 think that people have to wait much longer though, Where 1:02:49.120 --> 1:02:53.200 will there be a continuation of the storyline of Lambeau 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:56.360 Truck like You and Cons like might do a part 1:02:56.400 --> 1:02:58.960 two and something like there's we We've talked about it 1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:01.600 because we're working on the project, and there's gonna be 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:04.200 a You and Cause joint. There will be a weird 1:03:04.200 --> 1:03:06.280 we're working on it. We're actually almost done. I was 1:03:06.400 --> 1:03:08.440 not gonna be like the Kendrick Cole album. No, it's 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:10.600 not gonna be like that. Yeah, And I told me 1:03:10.640 --> 1:03:12.439 and Cos talked about that. I said, bro, we're gonna 1:03:12.480 --> 1:03:14.320 do this, Like I don't want it. Like I said, 1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:16.439 I came into ship as a fan. I never want 1:03:16.440 --> 1:03:19.400 to do to fans what other artists have done. That's 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:21.360 frustrating because I've been a fan, you know what I'm saying. 1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:22.840 So I told Cauz, like, if we're gonna put this 1:03:22.880 --> 1:03:24.920 ship out there and talk about it on the internet, 1:03:24.960 --> 1:03:26.520 like it's got to come out, it's got to come out. 1:03:26.520 --> 1:03:28.040 And I was like, and even if the labels don't agreed, 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:29.640 and we got to just like leak it and we 1:03:29.880 --> 1:03:31.360 just got to both take it on the chain from 1:03:31.360 --> 1:03:34.120 the like SoundCloud. I don't know how you know what 1:03:34.160 --> 1:03:35.680 I'm saying, Like it is what it is, but it 1:03:35.720 --> 1:03:37.200 has to come out, you know what I mean? Like, 1:03:37.560 --> 1:03:40.240 and so that's that's how I feel about it. But nah, 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:41.960 it would have been done by now. But I was 1:03:42.000 --> 1:03:44.320 really just tying up this project. It was really like 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:47.320 I forgot how long it in. How many hours it 1:03:47.360 --> 1:03:50.040 takes to send videos and I mean to do videos 1:03:50.120 --> 1:03:53.040 and get content together and all of that ship, and 1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:54.840 so I had to kind of back out. We were 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:56.240 having sessions, and I had to kind of back out 1:03:56.280 --> 1:03:58.160 of those sessions for a minute to get my ship 1:03:58.240 --> 1:04:00.920 tied up. But shout out to him, you guys are 1:04:01.160 --> 1:04:03.280 we probably got like eight right now. We're trying to 1:04:03.320 --> 1:04:05.400 make sure the project is only like seven records, but 1:04:05.440 --> 1:04:08.600 we want to make like fifteen and then pick the strong. Yeah. 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:09.960 So I actually just had a phone call with him 1:04:10.040 --> 1:04:11.560 last night because I sent some two joints that I 1:04:11.600 --> 1:04:14.080 did and I was like, you know, like I'm back 1:04:14.080 --> 1:04:16.000 working again, right, Yeah, I'm back working again, so like 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:18.520 let's get cooking. And he was like thank god, because 1:04:19.000 --> 1:04:20.600 like I've just been missing as far as like the 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:23.120 process of it, so uh yeah, we'll we'll probably wrap 1:04:23.160 --> 1:04:24.919 that up like within the next month month and a half. 1:04:24.920 --> 1:04:27.680 What is uh do you remember what Top's reaction was 1:04:27.720 --> 1:04:30.160 to that song originally when you heard Causes portioned the 1:04:30.280 --> 1:04:33.680 Top called me and said, he said, stick a Top 1:04:33.760 --> 1:04:37.240 his crazy. He said, yeah, I heard you was Robin Cole. 1:04:38.040 --> 1:04:43.000 Tell Kys remembers just a song. Just tell to make 1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:45.160 sure he remembers. It's just a song. Bro, don't don't 1:04:45.200 --> 1:04:46.600 don't come over it. It's not where you want to 1:04:46.600 --> 1:04:48.560 come over here with that. I do think it's dope though, 1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:50.200 that you guys are gonna do that project together, because 1:04:50.200 --> 1:04:53.360 I do feel like, no matter what dream villain Tde 1:04:53.760 --> 1:04:57.880 are gonna always be, they're they're the integrity in hip 1:04:57.920 --> 1:05:00.560 hop when it comes to creatively, like the artists that 1:05:00.600 --> 1:05:03.160 you're like that everyone signs like, I feel like that 1:05:03.240 --> 1:05:05.920 there's two constants when it comes to integrity, Like you 1:05:05.960 --> 1:05:07.880 know you're gonna get a certain level of music or 1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:11.560 quality when you know when it comes to those two camps. Yeah, 1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:14.840 and just call and Kendrick kind of having a simultaneous 1:05:14.880 --> 1:05:17.480 come up. Yeah, Yeah, it's been like right there, you 1:05:17.520 --> 1:05:19.040 know what I mean, Like Cole was on the Freshman 1:05:19.080 --> 1:05:20.960 cover year after Kendrick was on the exactly you know 1:05:20.960 --> 1:05:22.880 what I'm saying. And then it's like, you know, I 1:05:22.880 --> 1:05:26.240 think Dot drop or or cold dropped Sideline story and 1:05:26.240 --> 1:05:28.520 then that I dropped Good Kid in Mass City and 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:34.400 then you know, uh, what's the record on section eighty 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:37.120 that Jay Cole produced the Big One? Oh yeah, Ship. 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:39.720 I used to play it on the air all the time. Yeah, 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:46.120 high power, high power, Yeah, exactly exact produce that back then, Yo, Yo, 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:48.520 you should get some cold beats. Reason, Bro, I'd hit 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:50.520 him up for some like I'm like, like, what are 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:52.720 you but he's working on this album. I'm like, Nigga, 1:05:52.760 --> 1:05:55.760 I know there's records that you're not If there's records 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:57.880 that you're not using, Bro, he's actually a super super 1:05:57.960 --> 1:06:00.800 fire producer. Well but you know what I mean, Like 1:06:00.880 --> 1:06:03.080 now Cole is a dope human. People'll be forgetting that ship. 1:06:03.120 --> 1:06:05.120 When Cole first came out, like he was low key 1:06:05.200 --> 1:06:07.200 like producing for other artists a little bit a thousand 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:10.320 percent thousand per you know what I mean, and birthing ideas, 1:06:10.360 --> 1:06:11.440 you know what I mean as far as like from 1:06:11.440 --> 1:06:14.280 a writing perspective, not necessarily writing, but just birthing ideas. 1:06:14.320 --> 1:06:16.720 You know, I tell people those are the best producers 1:06:16.720 --> 1:06:18.680 to me, are the ones. Shout out Cal Banks. He 1:06:18.720 --> 1:06:20.400 does this and that's why I love working with him. 1:06:20.440 --> 1:06:22.240 But like, as an artist is hard to keep coming 1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:24.200 up with new ideas, But the producers that make beats 1:06:24.240 --> 1:06:26.680 and then kind of give you ideas of cadences and 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:28.760 abilities and stuff like that, like those are the well 1:06:29.600 --> 1:06:31.880 is producing beat It's just beat making, you know what 1:06:31.880 --> 1:06:33.520 I'm saying, Like, which is no offense to that if 1:06:33.560 --> 1:06:35.160 you were a beat maker, shout out to you. But 1:06:35.200 --> 1:06:37.480 it's like there's a difference between a producer and a 1:06:37.520 --> 1:06:39.240 beat maker. And I tell people that too. It's like, 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:42.400 you know, there's there's some producers that don't make beats, 1:06:42.400 --> 1:06:44.120 but they produced, Like shout out to Diddy, like he 1:06:44.200 --> 1:06:45.840 was one of those people. He didn't make beats, but 1:06:46.960 --> 1:06:48.360 room like, yeah, like you know what I mean, like 1:06:48.400 --> 1:06:50.280 let's do this, let's do that, And that's an important 1:06:50.280 --> 1:06:53.840 thing as well, you get what I'm saying. So so yeah, yeah, 1:06:54.320 --> 1:06:57.400 I was not was. I am a fan and I 1:06:57.400 --> 1:07:00.200 I always wanted that project though, and you know, I 1:07:00.280 --> 1:07:01.920 just wish that like the world would have got it, 1:07:01.920 --> 1:07:03.720 you know what I mean. And so yeah, and that's 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:06.280 another thing that I'm pushing to is like this relationship 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:08.760 with dream Bille and TD to just come a little closer. 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:12.400 I was the only artist that was on the Revenge album, 1:07:12.400 --> 1:07:13.600 you know what I mean, And I was proud of that, 1:07:13.960 --> 1:07:15.600 me and Jid. I took a pay cut to go 1:07:15.640 --> 1:07:17.560 on that tour because I felt like it was important 1:07:17.600 --> 1:07:19.600 for the culture, not for you know what I mean, 1:07:19.640 --> 1:07:21.560 Like Top still didn't, you know what I mean, feel 1:07:21.560 --> 1:07:23.280 because he's a businessman, like that don't make sense. But 1:07:23.560 --> 1:07:24.920 I took a pay cut because I feel like it 1:07:24.960 --> 1:07:27.360 was important and me and cos making this project to 1:07:27.400 --> 1:07:29.240 me is important and I just feel like it's important 1:07:29.240 --> 1:07:32.040 for our two labels to grow a relationship. And you know, 1:07:32.040 --> 1:07:34.200 we're always going to have friendly competition, but at the 1:07:34.240 --> 1:07:35.640 same time, we do need to grow a little bit 1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:37.480 closer to a relationship. Now. I think it's dope. Like 1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:39.400 I remember as a kid, the Rough Riders and cash 1:07:39.440 --> 1:07:41.440 Money going on tour together. Yeah, yeah, you know, there 1:07:41.480 --> 1:07:43.200 was shit like that going on that, Like that shit 1:07:43.280 --> 1:07:45.440 is iconic, and I feel like that shit is kind 1:07:45.440 --> 1:07:47.000 of missing, Like you said, like the fact you went 1:07:47.080 --> 1:07:50.000 on tour with Jid is super fire. I just feel 1:07:50.000 --> 1:07:52.520 like that that kind of like, you know, like a 1:07:52.600 --> 1:07:55.920 sizz a fucking ri Lennox Strow would be so crazy, 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:57.960 would be so crazy, bro, even like how they do 1:07:58.040 --> 1:08:00.880 Dreamville Fest. I'm like, if in we did the championship, 1:08:00.920 --> 1:08:03.880 So I'm like, if TD and Dreyville did a tour, bro, 1:08:04.040 --> 1:08:07.800 it would be literally insane. Bro. Like it was like 1:08:07.880 --> 1:08:10.080 and on. From a business perspective, it was so much 1:08:10.200 --> 1:08:11.800 money that can be made. What showed me that was 1:08:11.800 --> 1:08:14.680 a Days in Vegas. Did you go to Days? Of course? Yeah? Like, Bro, 1:08:14.880 --> 1:08:17.439 that Ship was the most lit festival I've ever performed 1:08:17.479 --> 1:08:21.760 at because you had hip hop fans at a festival 1:08:21.840 --> 1:08:24.840 going crazy and they don't get the opportunity to go 1:08:24.880 --> 1:08:28.519 to festivals. And see, I thought that the lineup was epics. 1:08:29.680 --> 1:08:32.240 The execution of the festivals, Yeah, the execution of the 1:08:32.240 --> 1:08:34.120 festival was like a little a little shaky. It also 1:08:34.280 --> 1:08:38.000 was fucking blown out of my mind for like three 1:08:38.080 --> 1:08:42.160 days straight at that tour, like high as fuck. And yeah, 1:08:42.200 --> 1:08:45.120 I was on mushrooms and Ship and it was a great. 1:08:45.240 --> 1:08:47.760 It was a great I enjoyed, Like you said, like 1:08:48.000 --> 1:08:51.240 the music on Fridays and Sunday. The Friday was Dream, 1:08:51.520 --> 1:08:55.000 Sunday was TD. The fact each each camp had sh 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:57.040 it was so hard. Bro. When Kendrick came out on 1:08:57.080 --> 1:08:59.160 the cowboy hat and I didn't know what was going 1:08:59.200 --> 1:09:00.880 on and people didn't think it was you look like 1:09:00.880 --> 1:09:04.360 the fucking the monster and jeepers creepers, like yeah, Like 1:09:04.760 --> 1:09:06.760 I was like, what the fuck is that? But like, 1:09:06.840 --> 1:09:09.479 imagine if like we have more songs together and if 1:09:09.520 --> 1:09:11.439 on both days you were getting like you know what 1:09:11.479 --> 1:09:13.639 I'm saying, Like because when being Cosy Lambo Truck there, 1:09:14.120 --> 1:09:16.439 it went crazy, it went crazy, And I'm like, bro, 1:09:16.520 --> 1:09:18.880 if if everybody on the labels had different records with 1:09:18.920 --> 1:09:21.280 each other, like and we were like doing ship on 1:09:21.320 --> 1:09:23.040 you guys should do like, it would have been stupid 1:09:23.760 --> 1:09:28.000 five dates. I agree. Yeah, just like pick the biggest cities. 1:09:28.080 --> 1:09:32.360 You know what it is, work becomes tough is and 1:09:32.520 --> 1:09:34.200 and you know, I think the only reason something like 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:36.840 that won't happen or why it might not happen is 1:09:36.880 --> 1:09:40.680 deciding who goes last. Yeah, And that's and that's to me, 1:09:41.560 --> 1:09:45.280 that's what kills so many moments in hip hop is 1:09:46.040 --> 1:09:49.479 the that part of it is like who goes last? 1:09:49.680 --> 1:09:54.240 Who what? What? Label is kind of almost like Kendrick 1:09:54.280 --> 1:09:57.439 and Cole would almost like when I saw the Drake 1:09:57.479 --> 1:09:59.599 and Lil Wayne tour when they were going back and forth, 1:10:00.320 --> 1:10:02.479 ship was kind of fly. Yeah. I mean, obviously Drake's 1:10:02.520 --> 1:10:04.439 gonna go last, if anyone's gonna go last. But with 1:10:05.240 --> 1:10:09.960 Colon Kendricks, there's really no definitive way to pick that. 1:10:10.280 --> 1:10:12.599 But I think they, Hey, yo, we're in l A. Yeah, 1:10:12.680 --> 1:10:17.320 Kendrick's gonna go last. We're gonna do Atlanta. I don't know, 1:10:17.360 --> 1:10:19.960 maybe you do. That's what I say, because I've had 1:10:20.000 --> 1:10:22.599 conversation with my homies about to just just spitballing and talking ship. 1:10:23.000 --> 1:10:25.880 I feel like they should just divide the country at half, 1:10:25.920 --> 1:10:28.840 and I'm gonna take the East coast, you take the 1:10:28.840 --> 1:10:30.000 West coast. You know what I'm saying. When we on 1:10:30.000 --> 1:10:31.880 the West, you go last. When we on the East, 1:10:32.240 --> 1:10:36.720 like La San Francisco, Charlotte, Lance to New York, YEP, 1:10:36.840 --> 1:10:38.680 exactly and calling to Day. You get what I'm saying. Like, 1:10:38.720 --> 1:10:40.519 and I feel like if they did that and maybe 1:10:40.600 --> 1:10:43.840 Texas or something, yeah, yeah, and three three and three 1:10:43.880 --> 1:10:46.040 and just you know, dot go last over here co 1:10:46.200 --> 1:10:49.200 go last over there. That's what Eminem did. They didn't 1:10:49.200 --> 1:10:51.360 even know they did. They did. They did two shows. 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:54.080 They did, yeah, in New York and they did New 1:10:54.160 --> 1:10:57.320 York and Detroit they did the Baseball Stadium or whatever 1:10:57.320 --> 1:10:59.760 the big stadium is, and then in New York they 1:10:59.760 --> 1:11:02.559 Didntyankee Stadium. That's fine. I had no idea that that happened. Yeah, 1:11:02.560 --> 1:11:04.040 they only did two shows. It was called the Home 1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:06.160 to Home tour, so it was like the artist did 1:11:06.280 --> 1:11:09.719 and in Detroit, J opened for m That's that's hard. 1:11:09.760 --> 1:11:12.439 That's hard with that. Yeah, like that she would be 1:11:12.479 --> 1:11:14.240 crazy tight though, like and that's what I'm saying, Like 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:16.960 and if they did a show like that where they 1:11:17.000 --> 1:11:19.519 went back and for bro like like those are moments 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:22.519 that like it doesn't matter what the ticket costs, like 1:11:22.760 --> 1:11:25.360 because it's priceless fans. Yeah, like like it's just take 1:11:25.400 --> 1:11:28.160 all my money, Yeah, take all my money? About that. 1:11:28.360 --> 1:11:32.519 In Vegas tour, I was hip hop and how much 1:11:32.560 --> 1:11:36.800 do you need? When people saw I had homies hitting 1:11:36.800 --> 1:11:38.960 me up like before I buy my ticket? Is this fake? 1:11:39.160 --> 1:11:41.439 Like like have you gotten paid for this ship? Like 1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:44.640 that was the craziest lineup ever assembled because we did 1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:49.439 our real street Fest in August and they announced that 1:11:49.520 --> 1:11:54.599 ship and I was like, oh my god, how much 1:11:54.720 --> 1:11:57.320 money did they spend on line? Like how did how 1:11:57.400 --> 1:12:02.920 is this even possible? Jesus Christ? They had like five 1:12:03.240 --> 1:12:06.000 major headliners there, like people, this is the person you 1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:08.559 picked to close the entire and they had like five 1:12:08.640 --> 1:12:11.639 of them. It was insane, Bro, It was crazy. Bro. 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:13.800 I don't even think Tyler closed out the day he 1:12:13.920 --> 1:12:16.800 was on. No, he didn't. Travis closed out that day. 1:12:16.920 --> 1:12:19.840 Travis closed out. That's what I'm saying. Like, it was insane, bro, 1:12:19.920 --> 1:12:23.000 that Travis was there. I want to say Cardi was there. 1:12:23.040 --> 1:12:24.760 I'm not one hundred percent shore she was supposed to 1:12:24.800 --> 1:12:26.280 be there, Okay, that's what it was. She was supposed 1:12:26.320 --> 1:12:32.439 to be there. Boozy was there, like Cole dot Tyler. Like, 1:12:32.479 --> 1:12:35.280 that's what I'm saying, Like they that's five they were 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:38.439 there one hundred percent. It was crazy, bro, it was 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:41.320 super super crazy. So yeah, I just want like us 1:12:41.320 --> 1:12:43.840 to create more moments like that. You get what I'm saying. Yeah, 1:12:43.840 --> 1:12:45.200 I think that's true. Man, I think that a lot 1:12:45.200 --> 1:12:46.840 of ego. I'm not saying that that's the case here, 1:12:46.880 --> 1:12:48.599 but I just think in general, like in hip hop, 1:12:48.600 --> 1:12:50.479 there's a lot of shit that like I think I 1:12:50.520 --> 1:12:53.280 call it business ego, which is not like the people. 1:12:53.360 --> 1:12:57.200 It's more about like the business like of the two sides, 1:12:57.280 --> 1:12:58.880 like it doesn't make sense for us, Sorry, well it 1:12:58.920 --> 1:13:00.639 doesn't make sense for ourself, saying like, so I don't 1:13:00.640 --> 1:13:02.840 think it's necessarily artists, Like what if we just did 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:07.280 something for the fans, wouldn't that be crazy? Like nah, 1:13:07.320 --> 1:13:10.479 that'd be super crazy. Look, man, the album officially out 1:13:10.560 --> 1:13:12.800 or project or mixtape or whatever we're calling it, whatever 1:13:12.800 --> 1:13:15.439 we want to call it. Does this mean we're gonna 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:17.120 have to wait four years for your next project? It 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:19.599 does not. And that's one thing I've taken pride in 1:13:19.640 --> 1:13:21.280 and with the labels that I do feel like I've 1:13:21.360 --> 1:13:24.040 changed the mode of how things work a little bit, 1:13:24.280 --> 1:13:26.320 even to the fact, like fans are giving me a 1:13:26.360 --> 1:13:28.120 lot of slack, Like, man, we've had eight singles, like 1:13:28.160 --> 1:13:30.320 we heard the whole album. I'm like, well, no, only 1:13:30.360 --> 1:13:33.160 three of them are on the project, Like because tde 1:13:33.400 --> 1:13:35.479 artists don't just drop singles. That's not a thing, you 1:13:35.479 --> 1:13:36.680 know what I mean. And I was the first one 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:38.800 that just was just putting shit out, Like I just 1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:40.320 get on tops nerves and tell you, like, let me 1:13:40.320 --> 1:13:42.840 shut reason up and put something out. Yeah, but I 1:13:42.880 --> 1:13:44.880 said that to say no, Like I'm almost done with 1:13:44.920 --> 1:13:49.160 my debut album. I'm hoping to drop like second quarter. 1:13:49.240 --> 1:13:51.240 So that's what I'm aiming for. That's what my managers 1:13:51.280 --> 1:13:53.519 and all of us are talking about. So that's what 1:13:53.560 --> 1:13:55.639 we push them for it and maybe a little cause 1:13:55.680 --> 1:13:58.200 of trying to get that out before my debut. So 1:13:58.200 --> 1:14:01.200 I'm trying to get the Cause and reason shit January 1:14:01.320 --> 1:14:02.840 I am. That's what I'm aiming for. That's what I'm 1:14:02.840 --> 1:14:04.559 aiming for. I gotta I gotta double check with cos 1:14:04.600 --> 1:14:07.320 of schedule because I know that he's wrapping up his album. 1:14:07.400 --> 1:14:10.200 But we've already been in the grants that like we're 1:14:10.240 --> 1:14:11.519 just gonna put that out. We don't got to do 1:14:11.560 --> 1:14:14.920 nothing crazy behind it, just for the fans. We just 1:14:14.920 --> 1:14:17.599 put it out with video or two years, a couple 1:14:17.600 --> 1:14:20.160 of videos. Let it do what it's gonna do. You 1:14:20.200 --> 1:14:22.120 get what I'm saying, and hopefully get some features from 1:14:22.160 --> 1:14:24.200 both sides, and that to be the closest thing that 1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:25.519 people What we're trying to do is make it the 1:14:25.560 --> 1:14:27.479 closest thing that people can get to a TD Dream 1:14:27.520 --> 1:14:30.439 Build tape. So we're trying to get features from both sides. 1:14:30.920 --> 1:14:33.880 You know what I'm saying, heavily featured, exactly, heavily featured, 1:14:33.880 --> 1:14:35.080 you know what I mean. And get some ship from 1:14:35.120 --> 1:14:37.240 our side, get some ship from their side, put it 1:14:37.240 --> 1:14:38.639 out for the fans. We don't got to do nothing. 1:14:39.360 --> 1:14:41.240 So and j I do ever been on the record together, 1:14:41.920 --> 1:14:44.160 not from my understanding, but I feel like that would 1:14:44.160 --> 1:14:46.840 be crazy. Though, I think that would be crazy. I'm 1:14:46.840 --> 1:14:48.800 gonna put my vote out there and J I D 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:52.280 you my guy, but get them I think by the way, 1:14:53.120 --> 1:14:55.600 I know that DJ had had this big thing that 1:14:55.640 --> 1:14:58.519 you got, you got, you gotta ate up by Yes, 1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:00.840 I didn't think it was exact close. You didn't think 1:15:00.840 --> 1:15:02.840 it was that close. I think was full shit. Oh okay, 1:15:02.880 --> 1:15:07.000 thank you. Y'all about to say okay, yeah, yeah. And 1:15:07.080 --> 1:15:10.600 he knows that he can get a reaction, so you 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:12.120 know what I mean. He knows I'm so competitive, he 1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:14.559 can get a reaction. But uh but nah, like like 1:15:14.800 --> 1:15:16.760 so did go crazy? But like I tell people all 1:15:16.760 --> 1:15:19.280 the time, like I always I always make sure that 1:15:19.360 --> 1:15:21.920 like my verse is there before I send it off. 1:15:21.920 --> 1:15:24.280 And I like Honestly, I like when artists hear my 1:15:24.400 --> 1:15:26.840 verse and try to like go crazy. I'll do it 1:15:26.840 --> 1:15:28.439 because it makes the song better, you know what I mean. 1:15:28.479 --> 1:15:30.040 Like I don't want you to send no bullshit because 1:15:30.040 --> 1:15:31.200 then I'm not gonna put the song out, you know 1:15:31.200 --> 1:15:33.240 what I mean. And so but I will say shout 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:36.040 it's two artists, shout out Boogie and Rhapsody. I probably 1:15:36.080 --> 1:15:38.960 won't be sending them anymore versus First because Boogie on 1:15:38.960 --> 1:15:42.200 Trapped In went crazy bro Boogie went crazy on Trapped 1:15:42.240 --> 1:15:44.280 In and then rahaps I can make it when so 1:15:44.280 --> 1:15:46.439 so crazy. So I'm like y'all too, I gotta get 1:15:46.479 --> 1:15:48.120 in the studio. We gottat, we gotta write this. We 1:15:48.160 --> 1:15:49.599 gotta do it together. You gotta do this together, y'all. 1:15:49.640 --> 1:15:51.920 Can't just keep on like having my my ship and 1:15:52.000 --> 1:15:54.080 like being all you know, you take two muths to 1:15:54.080 --> 1:15:56.400 write a verse and send me back a fucking eather 1:15:56.880 --> 1:15:58.920 nahs verse Like, nah, We're not doing that no more. 1:16:00.000 --> 1:16:02.800 Look at the album reason The Merches out as a 1:16:02.880 --> 1:16:05.760 merch drop yeah March, Yeah, it would have dropped by 1:16:05.760 --> 1:16:07.479 the Yeah, okay, so the Merch will be out on Friday, 1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:09.920 which is it's past Friday. No, it's Friday. Now. We're 1:16:09.960 --> 1:16:12.240 dropping we're dropping this. Yeah, so the March is out. Now, 1:16:12.640 --> 1:16:16.559 the March one hundred percent reasons care. Let's go perfect man, 1:16:16.960 --> 1:16:17.439 that's dope.