1 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Yo, yo yo, another edition of that bootleg cav podcast 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Look the third this week. Fam alright, let me tell 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: you something we're working over here. Man. I want to 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: give a shout out to my producer, Eric LaRock, my 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: bro bro Eric LaRock, who we've just been putting in 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: a lot of work. Man, we just broke thirty thousand 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: subscribers on YouTube, So shout out to everybody fucking what 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: it's on their YouTube, Shout out to everybody fucking what's 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: on Apple Spotify. iHeart whatever the fuck you're doing listening 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: to these podcasts. We appreciate it. Check this out episode 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: number twenty. Man. We about to get into episode number twenty. 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing some merch for the twenty fifth episode. 13 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: I believe we're working on that at the moment. Just 14 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: some real dope shit on the way. You know. We 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: we've been typically doing one, trying to do once twice 16 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: a week, but there's just gonna be a lot more 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: shit coming and then you know, whether it's in interviews, 18 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: like you know, what we'll do usually is like we'll 19 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: drop an interview and then we'll have like two or 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: three in the can and we'll be like cool, We're 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: good for the month, but like we're realizing, like we're 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: racking up so many dope interviews that like why hold 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: on to them? You know what I'm saying. So, no 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: matter what, you're gonna get a new podcast every single week. 25 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: But like this week, this is the third podcast we 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: dropped this week. You know we did, uh, what do 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: we do on Monday? Well, we did Fredo Bang on Wednesday? 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: And on Monday we did Somebody I got all am I? 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: What am I? Am? I tripping? Who do we drop 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: on Monday? Now? I gotta look this shit up. Man, 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: this is embarrassing. Man, it's my own shit. Oh Blast 32 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: only Blast. So we did Blast on Monday, we did 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Fredo Bang on Wednesday. Today's Friday, we got Reason Top 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Dogs own Carson's Own. So let me tell you how 35 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: this interview went down. Man, we interviewed him earlier this week. 36 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: I listened to the whole album. His album dropped today 37 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: and it is a very very If you are a 38 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: hip hop fan, then you will love this album. There's 39 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: some incredibly deep records on here. The album is called 40 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: New Beginnings. I guess it's technically a mixtape project. Whatever. 41 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: He's not considering this his album, but it's like fourteen 42 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: goddamn songs, but reasons album New Beginnings is out. We 43 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: talked to him. I believe it's Monday or Tuesday, and 44 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, look, let's drop this thing 45 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: the day your album drops, because we really dived into 46 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: this project. I'm already seeing, by the way, like he's 47 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: getting a lot of flak for the mac Miller and 48 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: when I heard it, I kind of knew that was 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: gonna happen. So we went in de bonk. No, just 50 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: just really good interview. Man. 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Bootleg Cab Podcast. 77 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: Uh yo, Reason is here man, one of the greatest. 78 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah, Man, last time you came to 79 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: the radio station and you did that freestyle for us, 80 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: I was out of town. I think it was. I 81 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: was in Hawaii. Yeah, yeah, so yo. But yo, man, 82 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: it's good to have you here. Bro. I've been sitting 83 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: with your album since you said it to me last night. 84 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Incredible out of your work. Thank you, 85 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: thank you. There was like two songs on there that 86 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: we're back to back. It was fall and the song 87 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: after Fall down Slow Down. That was like, you know, 88 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: that's like my back to back, Like I was like, shit, 89 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: like just very very like introspective, like just great storytelling. 90 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: Like we'll get into those records, but I want to 91 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: I want to just kind of you know, you've been 92 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: dropping songs I feel like for the last year or so, 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: and they're all on this project, but not not everyone, 94 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: not everyone here exactly, but but like three or four 95 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: of them, yeah, like three or four of them talk 96 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: about where you're at right now and why is you know, 97 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: why are we finally getting you know, TD we having 98 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: to wait for motherfuckers on you know what I'm saying. 99 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: It's funny because it's like that's the mode. It's kind 100 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: of like not necessarily to make people wait, but just 101 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: to perfect hold on DJ heads calling me in the 102 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: middle of Hey, you know I'm doing an interview with you. 103 00:05:52,000 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: Why are you always interrupting my ship? Why are you 104 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: always interrupting my ship? Because this is life. I need 105 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: you to be on some put a shirt on ship. 106 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: That's what I need you to. Let me hit you 107 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: back after this, buddy. Anyway, I gotta answer DJ heads 108 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: like my wife, I got it like something could be 109 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: on fire right now. That's my dog. That's my dog. 110 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's kind of been like the mode is 111 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: to just make sure that we perfect, you know what 112 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, quality over quantity. But I also feel like, 113 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, the world being in the state that it 114 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: was in was kind of weird too. You know. We 115 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: were supposed to drop last year but just uh, you know, 116 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: trying to make sure that everything was right. And then 117 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: when we were gonna drop this earlier this year in March, 118 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, COVID hit of course, and then we were 119 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: gonna drop again. When we finally understood like okay, like 120 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: let's just do it. You know, we're gonna go in June. 121 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: Then a lot of the black Black Lives Matter stuff 122 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: and people were passing, and we just felt like it 123 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: would be disrespectful to me pushing music at that. So 124 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: it was just like a lot of adjusting, you know 125 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: what I mean, in real life. And I feel like 126 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: people forget sometimes that because we're TD, that like we 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: got to adjust to like we don't just work on 128 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: our own, you know what I mean, merit or whatever 129 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: the case may be. So and we respect the things 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: that's going on, but I think we had a good 131 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: place now, like the whole label, you know what I mean. 132 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: And I'm proud to be the one to start kicking 133 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: it off. Give me some of your background, man, Like, 134 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: obviously you're from Carson. I had heard of you before 135 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: you were working with TD. You were you know, I 136 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: would say, like, you know, like if you were tapped 137 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: in with two Dope Boys and some of the blogs, 138 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: like you were familiar with what you were doing. And 139 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: then TDE became a part of the situation and that 140 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: just kind of made shit like super big. But how 141 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: long have you been making music? Man? Like, when did 142 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: you first start taking this rap shit series? I actually blessed, 143 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: blessed enough. I actually only been making music for six years, 144 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: so I started in twenty fourteen. Wow. Yeah, yeah, And 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: I've been heavy into music just because I liked it, 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Like I just liked lyricists and rappers that, you know 147 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: what I mean, really rapped about stuff and whatnot. So 148 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: I was super heavy into that. And then I played 149 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: ball and I was supposed to go to Greece to 150 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: play basketball out there, and then one day I just 151 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: I just kind of fell out of love with it 152 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: on a business level because I was like, you know, 153 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: I love basketball, but I don't really want to do 154 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: a business thing with it. And so I just called 155 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: my agent and I was just like, now I'm probably 156 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: not gonna go. And then where you was at and 157 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: that was like the beginning of twenty fourteen, so that 158 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: was like the beginning twenty fourteen. I was still in college. 159 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: So I called him told him that. And then there 160 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: was a part of me that like, and that's kind 161 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: of what new beginning symbolizes, and we'll get into that. 162 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: But there was a part of me that I was 163 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: kind of scared to do that because basketball was my comfort. 164 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: I knew that I can go make money playing basketball, 165 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: Like I knew that like anything else I can do, 166 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: I can rent, there's anything else I can do. I 167 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: can go play basketball and make some money. And I 168 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: was like, do I really want to give up this 169 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: comfort you know what I'm saying, in this comfort zone 170 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, to do something else and potentially fail, you 171 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so I ended up making 172 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: a decision. And even after I told him, I still 173 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: was kind of like fifty to fifty. I called him 174 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: some days and be like, well, wait, hold on. Then 175 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: when I graduated and I wrote a song called Letter 176 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: to God, which is like my second song that I wrote, 177 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: and I sent it to my brother and we listened 178 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: to it, and after that that was that song kind 179 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: of got me over the fear. I was like, I'm 180 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm really good at this ship. Let me 181 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: just try it. Yeah, exactly. So where did you go to? 182 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: Where did you play basketball? Is that a D two 183 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: called Northwestern State in Iowa. There's like a swarm of 184 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: Northwestern's in the Midwest. It's like Northwestern, Oklahoma, Northwestern. I 185 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: feel like there's a million Northwestern. There's a bunch of Northwestern. Yeah, 186 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: it's like this little like weird yeah, middle of nowhere. 187 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: It was awful. So were you at a point guard? 188 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Because I'm not tall enough to you? Yeah, be anything else? 189 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: One hundred Yeah. I mean it's it's crazy because I 190 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: like that basketball hustle, like you said, like going to 191 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Greece like I got. I got some homies who live 192 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: in Europe and who hoop and like you said, like 193 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, if you love basketball and you're like, 194 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: like you're good, Like there's always like always a place 195 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: to make me. Now you're rent, there's always a way 196 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: to make money. And if you could pay your rent 197 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: playing basketball, bro, it's like and that was my thing. 198 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, like I'm seeing all my homies, like you know, 199 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: work jobs and stuff, and they hate their job, and 200 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, like, even though I might not like where 201 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm at over there, at least I like my job, 202 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, and I can pay 203 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: my rent doing it or whatever the case may be. 204 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: But I had just had two nieces and I was 205 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: in Iowa for two years and I wanted to come 206 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: back home. I went through like a little racial situation 207 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: out there with my coach, and it was just like 208 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, I don't know if 209 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm ready to leave again, you know what I mean. 210 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: And so that was kind of like part of the 211 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: influence behind it was I don't know if I'm ready 212 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: to leave. And then on top of that, I was 213 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: using music as as like therapy. Like I was writing 214 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: out there just to kind of pass the time. Because 215 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: I was out there, it was only me and like 216 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: six other black people at the school, so I didn't 217 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: really have nobody year. I didn't really have nobody to 218 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: talk to relate to. So I was just kind of 219 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: writing as kind of like a therapeutical thing, and I 220 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: started liking it. So I was like, man, let me 221 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: just you know, record a couple things. So I came 222 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: home on spring break and recorded a couple of records, 223 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: and that's kind of when I decided, like, you know, 224 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do this and see how works out. 225 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: When you say you had a racial situation with your coach, 226 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: what happened. Basically, I had a coach that I mean, 227 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: he was racist to to you know, keep it keep yeah, 228 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: to keep it funky. We used to have it was 229 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: me and three other black players. We used to have 230 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: black only meetings before the games that you guys conducted 231 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: or that they He would be like, I just want 232 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: to meet with the three black guys and talk to 233 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: them about how they need to play to fit into 234 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: like this role. Like and then he would like say 235 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: the N word to us, like metaphorically, like so not 236 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: at us, but he's still saying it. Right. One time 237 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: he used this example where he was like, you know, 238 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: he was like, white people are the brain, Black people 239 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: are the soul. Mexicans are the heart because you know, 240 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: they work hard and you know, make everything go. He 241 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: was like, when you put all three of them together, 242 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. But if you had to pick one, 243 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't you rather be the brain like that? Like, well, 244 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: to be honest, if he wanted to use that reference, 245 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: I would argue that Asian, Yeah, And I would also 246 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: argue that, you know, the heart's kind of just as 247 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: important as you know, white people might be like the 248 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: kneecapps or something. I don't know. I feel like we're 249 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: not bringing a lot to the table at twenty twenty, 250 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: not in twenty twenty. Right now, shit's fucked up, man 251 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: A thousand cent. So yeah, Like I went through that situation, 252 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: and it's funny even with that situation, like the NAACP 253 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: was getting involved and stuff, and it was about to 254 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: be big, and I was younger, and so if I 255 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: had my brain that I had now, I would have 256 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: carried it all the way through and went because I 257 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: feel like I could have changed some things over. It's 258 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: an intimidating fight for a yeah. Yeah, Like when I 259 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: was in I was just like, bro, I just want 260 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: to go home. Bro, Like, if y'all can make it 261 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: to where I can go home after the season and 262 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: just like work, do my school work from home and 263 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: come back to graduate and leave again, then like we 264 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: got a deal. And my mom didn't want me to 265 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: do that. She wanted me to stay and fight, but 266 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: I just ended up saying like, you know, like I 267 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: just want to come home. So that's what they let 268 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: me do. After the season was over, I went home, 269 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: I worked from home, did all my school work from 270 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: home since it Then they kind of just passed me 271 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: because they were just like like we don't want to 272 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: get yeah, we don't want no smoke like so I 273 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: was kind of just turning in whatever guy's still coaching 274 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: he is Unfortunately there is Unfortunately yeah Fuyeah, And if 275 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: you've been to that town, it's like it's one of 276 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: those places that it's like, bro, nothing that never changed 277 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: here because there's nothing there, Like there's nothing there to 278 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: make it. You get what I'm saying, like change, and 279 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: that's the reason why that is one regret that I 280 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: do have. I hate having regrets in life. But if 281 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: I could go back, I would fight that, you know 282 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, because he doesn't need to be culching, 283 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: like just to be completely Hey, put his name out 284 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: there so people can you know, I honestly legally can't. 285 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: Oh you legally can't. Well, the coach of yeah, Northwestern Iowa, 286 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: U cocksucker. It's not hard to find though, Like people 287 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: can look at fine. Yeah, people can look in fine 288 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: with college y'all went to for sure for sure. But yeah, 289 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. Yeah, it's crazy and just really quick. The 290 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: crazy thing about it is that so he has a 291 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: nephew that's in the NBA right now that is complete opposite, 292 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: like he does like podcasts and stuff about racial discrimination 293 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: against black white and a white guy JJ Redick. I 294 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: told you, I can't. I can't say what it is, 295 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: but like it's crazy the opposite though, like he is, 296 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: like his nephew is like hard working fighting against like 297 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: racial discrimination. We'll talk about it. I listened to JJ 298 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: Red's podcast. He has he actually does have a great podcast. 299 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: I just got hip to it like recently. Yeah that's dope. Man. Yeah, 300 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm a huge basketball guy, so I actually don't listen 301 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: to as much. Man. It sucks because I listened to 302 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: like certain ship, like I like gravitate to an album 303 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: and then I'm just stuck with it, like I'm still 304 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: listening to fucking like Freddie Gives an Alchemist Alfredo, which 305 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: was incredible tough for sure, but and then like outside 306 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: of that, I'm just I'm just listening to sports talk 307 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: radio like a degenerate sports gambler. But yeah, man, that's 308 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: that's wild. I didn't know that about you, bro, Yeah, 309 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: you know it was. It was a crazy situation, you 310 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's, uh, it's weird because 311 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: like when I write music, I never know what I'm 312 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna touch on. So I feel like one day it's 313 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: something that I'm going to touch on, but I never 314 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: come into songs like purposely, and so I'm just like 315 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: one day it'll come spilling out and not talk about it, 316 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So yeah, yeah, no, that's wild. 317 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: I think that I think that's some or too for 318 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: you to share that because I'm sure there's people who 319 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: are going through maybe similar situations. Maybe not on a 320 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: basketball team, but yeah, like whether it's their boss or 321 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: corporate environments anything. Yeah. Man, it's just fucked up right now, 322 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: like and get people got to stand up for what's right. Bro. 323 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, but I will say in twenty twenty, 324 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: because of how chaotic it is, like there always has 325 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: to be balanced, and I feel like like there's more 326 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,119 Speaker 1: than ever, more white people than ever that's trying to understand. 327 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: And I always tell black people in general, like, you know, 328 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: don't criticize white people that are trying to understand that 329 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: maybe don't understand it, because that's step one. You know 330 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is them trying to the understand it. 331 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: I think that what sucks about right now is like 332 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: kind of what you just said, Like if there's no 333 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: nuance and there's no room for progress and if it's 334 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: like a yo, fuck you off the rip because you're 335 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: not exactly where I want you to be as opposed 336 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: to like you're trying, you're trying, you know, Like you 337 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I think that that's there's two 338 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: opposite ends up the spectrum, and I think that's the 339 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: other opposite end of the spectrum where it's like, you know, 340 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: there's people who, like you said, like they might not 341 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: have known about I mean, and what's craziest, Yeah, it's crazy, 342 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: But it's like you have to understand that people's reality 343 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: are their reality. Like some people genuinely are unaware, like yeah, 344 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: this stuff was going on, but they didn't know what 345 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: they didn't know. They didn't know that it was like 346 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: and I tell people all the time, like you got 347 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: to be understanding bro to people people's environments, like you 348 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like there's people out there that 349 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: they have nothing against black people, but they literally might 350 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: not have a black person in their life. There might 351 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: be people who just don't grow up like in that environment. 352 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Like there's people who grow up in fucking Salt Lake 353 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: City and all they know is like white Mormon kids, 354 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, and if they're trying to 355 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: be empathetic, I just think that they're we're losing like 356 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: a lot of nuance in the world where it's like 357 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: you're either this or you're this. Yeah, but what if 358 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: you're like here or here, like you know what I'm saying, 359 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: You're trying to get here, you know what I'm saying. 360 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: I think even politically, it's just fucked up because I 361 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: feel like you can't, like I can criticize Joe Biden 362 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: and still say I'm voting for Joe Biden, you know 363 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I I don't fuck with Joe 364 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: Biden really, but I'm not voting for Donald Trump exactly, 365 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. But I can let 366 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: like there's like nuance, like you got to be able 367 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: to like, you know, ask questions and be critical and 368 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: just because you're critical doesn't mean like you ain't you 369 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: ain't for whatever the fuck you know what I'm saying 370 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: exactly what the issue is that we're in an environment 371 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: right now where it's like everybody jumps out the window 372 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: for everything. Like it's like you can't be you can't 373 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: even have a conversation about something. It's like you got 374 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: to pick, you know what I'm saying, Like you have 375 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: to pick what it is right now, and if you 376 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: don't and you even play defense, then it's like, you know, 377 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: then they're just gonna label you like okay, well then 378 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: you're over here, you know what I'm saying. And so yeah, 379 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: like I was like a big Bernie Sanders supporter and 380 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: and I have people like dig up tweets I said 381 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: about Joe Biden like Yo, man, you fucking you don't 382 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: even fuck with this. I'm like yeah, like obviously I'm 383 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: not like crazy about Joe Biden, Like he's probably the 384 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: least candidate on that side that I would lock out. 385 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: But you know what the other side is terrible fucking hitler, 386 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, like the worst possible shit in the world, 387 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: Like I would vote for like any more, like literally 388 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: anyone else, Like it could be George W. Bush, Like 389 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm running the g dub vote, you know what I'm saying, 390 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: Like fucking run I rack back. Joe Biden would have 391 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: to personally put out an attack on my family for 392 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: me to Joe Biden would have to put out like 393 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: an entire like this album, like just dissing every race, ethnicity, 394 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: sexual Come on, bro, Like it's crazy. Nah that that's 395 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: dope though. Man. So the fact you didn't start making 396 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: music till twenty fourteen, Now, were you writing before that 397 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: or was it something that like it was like I 398 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: wasn't really writing. I have some homeboys that rapped, and 399 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: I would like like kind of be with them in 400 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: the studio just on some kicking and shit, and I 401 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: would kind of like be like, oh, you know, you 402 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: should say this, you should say that. I used to 403 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: always tell me like you kind of like you kind 404 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: of tight like words and shit like that, you know 405 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. But it was never something that I 406 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: was taking in any type of way, recording and nothing 407 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: like that, just because when I when I focus on 408 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: something and this is a good thing and a flaw, 409 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm like tunnel vision when I focus on shit. So 410 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: I can't do basketball and music. I can't do music 411 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: and something else, you know what I'm saying. Like it's 412 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: like I have to focus on one thing, and you 413 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like that's just kind of how 414 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: I am. So I wasn't able to really do it 415 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: until basketball was off the table, you know what I mean. 416 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: And so and it shows that way. But I've been 417 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: blessed because things have just kind of worked very fast, 418 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: you know, in comparison to other people that happen. I mean, 419 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: you're one of the Jedis man, Like, you're one of 420 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: those guys. It's like you know what you're getting with reason, 421 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's love and that's that's I mean, 422 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: six years is not a long time man, especially in 423 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: hip hop, Like the people have been doing this shit 424 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: for twenty years before we you know, we know who 425 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: they are, you know what I'm saying. That's wow. So 426 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, you start making music, you leave the basketball 427 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: shit alone. Yeah, what was the in your opinion, the 428 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: moment that you realized there were some eyes on you 429 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: that like, Okay, this is this actually really might work. Yeah. Yeah, 430 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: I remember I was doing this thing called Reason Fridays 431 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: where I just like freestyle every Friday, and I was 432 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: putting it out and it was leading it was actually 433 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: leading up to there you have it. So I dropped 434 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: like ten of them, like ten weeks in a row 435 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: leading up to the drop of that project, and like 436 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: around the eighth one, things just kind of started picking up. 437 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: Like first I got posted by like a couple of 438 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: professional athletes that Brandon Jenning shout out to him. Yeah, 439 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: he looked out Todd Gurley. It was a couple of dudes. 440 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: And then then Baller Alert posted me, and then after 441 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: that like a few like low level label reps started 442 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: reaching out and we had a couple of meetings. So 443 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I realized that some eyes were 444 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: on me. But then I started talking to a dude 445 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: named Tubby. Sean Holladay shout out to Tubby. He was 446 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: like the first high level executive. He was the VP 447 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: of A and rs AT I want to say Sony time. 448 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: And he brought me into his office and played him 449 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of records. I played him Better Days, and 450 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: after Better Days, he was like, if you can get 451 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: me like six more of these, like then like you know, 452 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: we can we can go. But things never kind of 453 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: progressed just because you know, labels And this is no 454 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: offense to Tubby at all. Like I love Tubby because 455 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: he was actually one of the first people to like 456 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: start talking to people about me. But labels, the big labels, 457 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: they don't really want to develop artists. They kind of 458 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: want to keep an eye on you until you kind 459 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: of start bubbling, you know what I mean. They want 460 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: all the ground where they come in and they put 461 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: exactly you get what I'm saying, like, and so you know, 462 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: that was kind of where Tubby was. He was like, 463 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: you know, like I just want him to kind of 464 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: get cracking first, you know what I mean. And what's 465 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: crazy is that Tubby sent my music to top and 466 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: he wanted to do a joint deal with Top because 467 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I'm not gonna get him cracking, 468 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: but I know Top can get him cracking, and he 469 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: wants to do a joint deal with Top, but Top 470 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: doesn't two joint deals. So Top never even listened to 471 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: my ship. Like he was just like as soon as 472 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: Tubby started talking about a joint deal, he was just like, well, 473 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not interested. And then when I met 474 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: Top years later, Top Diggs and his emails and it's 475 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: the same songs that I'm playing them in the studio. 476 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: He like, wow, like this ship has really hit the 477 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: unopened email. Like, yeah, I think that that is one 478 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: dope thing about TD, you know, is the the development process. 479 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: You know, like they there's a dope young MC who 480 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: you guys have under your roster that I've known for 481 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: a long time. He's wearing the chain. I don't know 482 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: if it's official, so I'm not gonna say his name, 483 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: but like, I mean, he's been on the label about 484 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: a year and like just working, yeah, yeah, you know, 485 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: working on his craft and they got he showed me 486 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: some videos that y'all shot, and like, you know, it's 487 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: like that kind of like attention to detail and like 488 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: you know that ship is as a fan, it could 489 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: be frustrating, yeah, from the fans perspectives, because I'm like, 490 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: I need a fucking Isaaver shot album? Bro. By the way, 491 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: glad he's on the album, but but no, just in general, 492 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: I just think that that's something then that's that's that's 493 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: missing from the game and the process now because like 494 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, man, these labels low key 495 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: are kind of holing everybody man because they want you 496 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: to do everything. Yeah. Yeah, and then once it gets 497 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: to a certain point. Now obviously once the label comes involved, 498 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: like there are looks and radio play, you know, there's 499 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: things that that that they can offer that people still can't. Right, 500 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: There's there are still some things. But like if you're like, 501 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, I would just say most artists just keep grinding, 502 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: grind a little longer, build up, build up your uh 503 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, your your uh, your leverage with these fools 504 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: a thousand percent. Like I tell people that all the time, Like, 505 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: if you if you don't have a sitution, like sign 506 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: up with a major label. To me, in this day 507 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: and age, it's just not smart. Now if you're gonna 508 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: sign with like a uh, well, when you don't have 509 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: the leverage if you because you're gonna get a really 510 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: bad deal. You're gonna get a really bad deal regardless, 511 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: there's nothing. You don't matter how talented you are, you 512 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: could be Michael Jackson, You're gonna get a really really 513 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: bad deal. So to me, as smart, the sign with 514 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: like some of these lower management companies and stuff like that, 515 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: like shout out to lvr N, they're doing an incredible job. 516 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: They're killing it. Yeah, you know what I mean, they're 517 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: killing it. You know, the tds, the Dreamvilles, whoever it is. 518 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people look at TD A 519 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: is a major and we're not, you know what I mean, 520 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: we're independently. Yeah. No, That's why I've been trying to 521 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: tell people. It's like, Yo, if you're on TD, that 522 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're like Scope. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 523 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: so you're just strictly TD, just strictly TD. So exactly, 524 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: and the same thing with me, like we're trying to 525 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: build up leverage that way, when we do take it 526 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: to a major, we get the deal that we want, 527 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we get the situation we 528 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: want which top is top. He can get whatever he wants. 529 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's it's mo organic to 530 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: be able to build that up and show your value first, 531 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: you know what I mean When you first became involved 532 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: with TD, like I feel like, what's dope about a 533 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: brand like TD? A brand like Dreamville is like their 534 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: fans are so open, like open armed, like yeah, you're 535 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: one of us now, yeah, so you automatically step into 536 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: like to like twenty thousand die hard right like did 537 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: you see that right away? Like two one thousand percent? 538 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: Like TD fans are like the they're the dopest, most 539 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: crit overly critical in the world smart hip hop. They're 540 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: smart hip hop fans and sometimes almost too smart, Like 541 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: when I because I talked to a lot of my 542 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: fans sometimes to a fart, like my managers tell me, like, 543 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta be more ducckt off, But but 544 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: I talked to them because I am a fan too 545 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: and I want to know how they feel. But sometimes 546 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: I tell them, I'm like, yo, y'all listen to music 547 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: sometimes and don't enjoy it, like because you're too busy 548 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 1: like being critical or trying to decode what it is, 549 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: like you're not even like like like roller Blunt. Yeah, listen, 550 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: it's music, you know, I mean, it's entertainment. But nah, 551 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: shout out to all the TV fans and the Dream 552 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: Beale fans. I went tour with G I D And 553 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: realize that a lot of them cross over, you know 554 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: what I mean, like a lot of them do they 555 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: definitely love both of us? Yeah, what was what was 556 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: the record that caught tops attention? Do you remember like 557 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: which record or what it was that like, yeah that 558 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: got you that meeting with Top? Yeah, well better Days 559 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: is the one that really really caught tops attention. But 560 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: the one that made Top feel like, Yo, like this 561 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: dude can like make records because that's Top's big thing 562 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: right now. It's like, yeah, you can wrap it, can 563 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: you make me? Can you make records? Exactly? And it 564 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: was on there you have It. It It was called fuck 565 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: with Me, And when he heard that record, he was 566 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: like yo, like yeah, this dude, he can go you 567 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it wasn't even we weren't 568 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: even supposed to sign like Moosa was taking me to him. 569 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: We were actually supposed to be doing something with Dave Gross. 570 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: Shout out to Dave Gross. He do a lot of 571 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: stuff with Nip, and we were supposed to be doing 572 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: like a little partnership deal with Dave and Dave shows 573 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: a lot of love and he was gonna help me 574 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: build up a little bit. And then the plan was 575 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: to go to Top, and Moose kept listening to the 576 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: music that I had, and without me even saying so, 577 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: he just took it to Top. And then Top was like, 578 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: you know, like let's sit down and have a meeting. 579 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: And I was playing music for like an hour, Tops 580 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: not bobbing his head or nothing, like they're not giving 581 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: me nothing like he's showing Moose memes and shit, I'm 582 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: like some most disrespectful me. That's the worst when you're 583 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: playing someone music and they're on their out of my 584 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: eye trying to like see if he's fucking with it, 585 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: like he's just not. And then fuck with me played 586 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: and that was the first time that he kind of 587 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: like put his phone down and start bobbing his head. 588 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: And so I leave the meeting. I'm low key like depressed. 589 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm like that shit did not go well. And Most 590 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: tells me, he like, no, you gotta understand, my pops, 591 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: Like if he didn't like it, you would you wouldn't 592 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: have been here for a hour, like he don't. He 593 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: don't do that, you know what I mean. He was like, so, 594 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, he was like a deal might not happen 595 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: today or next month or whatever, but you know, like 596 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: let's just keep working and go back to Dave and 597 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: Recoop and we'll come back. And then like three days later, 598 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: Mos called me. He was like, I think my pop's 599 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: gonna sign you, and I was just like, what the fuck, 600 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: Like this is crazy, you know what I mean. And 601 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: so it happened way faster than I thought. And you know, 602 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: that was also part of the reason why I feel 603 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: like it took a little longer for me to drop 604 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: some stuff after I signed, because me and Top still 605 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: had to get to know each other as people, you 606 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: get what I'm saying, Because it's such a people label, 607 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, so we had to still build that, 608 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's a family business. 609 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: People forget that, Like, yeah, yeah, it's a family business. 610 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: Like Top, will I sign you if he don't, if 611 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: he don't personally fuck with you, he'll just take you 612 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: and get you signed somewhere else and get a piece 613 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: of contract like yeah, sh exactly and everything. No, that's crazy. Yeah, 614 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: I think that, uh, you know, it's been dope to 615 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: see your development because you've been dope for so long. 616 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: And I think that your I feel like this album 617 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: is like you're coming out party, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, 618 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: that's how That's how I approached it too. There's so 619 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: many things happened over the last couple of years, Like, 620 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think that that Lambeau Truck record was 621 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: so fucking special. On that Dreamville album obviously, you know, 622 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: like you said, you went on tour with with j 623 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: I D. And like, you know, you've been just kind 624 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 1: of like it's been like a tumbleweed, just accumulating more 625 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: and more like momentum. And I think that, you know, 626 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: now's the time talk about the album, man, because there's 627 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: a lot of personal shit on the album. There's a 628 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: lot of moments on the project that were like like 629 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: oh fuck, moments like damn, this shit is like crazy, 630 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: like thank you? How did you approach this shit? Did 631 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: you approach it kind of like, you know, because you 632 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: didn't tell all your story obviously, yeah. Yeah, and I 633 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: didn't even completely dive all the way into it. It's 634 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: funny some of the more person ones. We're records that 635 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: were supposed to be on my debut album that I'm 636 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: working on right now. So I consider this like a project. 637 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: So this is like a mixtape. It's like a mixtape 638 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: kind of and what I consider it's funny because I 639 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: hate when artists do that, but now I'm that guy, 640 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: that guy. I'm definitely that guy. But yeah, it's kind 641 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: of like a mixtape or a project or a collection 642 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: of songs. And it's funny because when we made it, 643 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: we were like, damn, we need some shit for like 644 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: the core fans, like cause it's not personal enough, you 645 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's kind of when we added, 646 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: uh the slow downs and the gossips and the falls 647 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: and then Windows Crow didn't get added until Top called 648 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: and wanted to add it, which is crazy because of 649 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 1: the content on there. But Top called and was like, nah, 650 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: that should be the outro. So that's kind of how 651 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: we put it together. But I approached it from a celebratory, 652 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: like stant like like point of view, because there you have. 653 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: It dropped originally in twenty sixteen, and so I got 654 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of Day one fans that's been riding with me. 655 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: And they see me, they see me get signed and 656 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: we redropped. There you have it, and they're like, yay, 657 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: that's great for you, but like, where's the where's the 658 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: new music? We've been We've been heart this shit, And 659 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: so I wanted to give them something that I felt 660 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: like they would want to hear. So I approach it 661 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: like I'm not even a feature heavy type of artist, 662 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: but I was like, okay, you know what do I 663 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: want to hear as a fan? You know what I mean? 664 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: I always want to hear zamg In on a record together, 665 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: like let me go do that, you know what I mean? 666 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: Rap City for the rap heads is like fire fire, 667 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, she went crazy. It's 668 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: my favorite feature on the shit. So when it did that, 669 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, let me take care of home, 670 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: let me bring soul out the cave. So we did 671 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: trapped In, we did Flick it Up. Trapped In didn't 672 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: make it, but Flick it Up of course made it. 673 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: So I approach it from that standpoint, like from a 674 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: fan standpoint, and let's make fun records, Let's make you 675 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Let's get dope features, let's get 676 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: shited like that. Dope production, and then we came back 677 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: and at it the personal elements, and so that's kind 678 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: of how I attacked it from putting it together as 679 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: a whole project. Yeah, on the album Falls, a record 680 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: that I thought was really dope, because you know, the 681 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: first verse is you wrapping from the perspective of like 682 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: an upcoming female artist who you know, And I do 683 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: think that that's something that's kind of unsett in music. 684 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 1: Like I even think, like when we think of female mcs, 685 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: like I think, like, and it's unfortunate, like Rhap City's 686 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: on the album, and rhap City, to me is the 687 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: best to me female and one of the best overall overall. 688 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: Like I think she's like top five at very very minimum, 689 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: top ten MC's period. No, No, she's like, yeah, she's 690 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: up there, but like as a female, she's like that, 691 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, she's But I feel like it sucks 692 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: because she's not overly sexualized. People don't give her that respect. 693 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: And that's not like I give her that respect, but 694 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: I feel like because she's not an overly sexualized female artist, 695 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: she doesn't get the respect that she deserves. And that's 696 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: just kind of like the world we're fucking in like 697 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's it's tough, like but 698 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: I thought that was dope, like like, was there anybody 699 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: in mind like when you wrote that, Like like you 700 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: don't got to see aybody's name, but was there some 701 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: well actually rap that's how we met. So on that 702 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: verse on on Fall, which I personally think is the 703 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: most important record on the album, because of that that 704 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: verse about female MC's and about and the second verse yeah, 705 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: and the second verse too as well, you get what 706 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And uh, but unfortunately, because of what we 707 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: just talked about, I was a late Rahps City fan. 708 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: I didn't get put onto Layla's wisdom. And I'm on 709 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: tour with rock and I'm listening and I'm like, yo, 710 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like like she is crazy? Yeah, her 711 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: and Kendrick had been putting in work for like ten year, 712 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: and I didn't. I was just wasn't hip, you know 713 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. And so I wrote the verse and 714 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: I actually even say on the verse, I say I 715 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: had a combo with Layla's share share sharing some of 716 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: her wisdom when we came to kick it with me. 717 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: So I wrote it from her perspective and I didn't 718 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: write the second verse yet, and she was following me 719 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: on Twitter, and so I just reached out to her 720 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: and was like, hey, I wrote a verse about you, 721 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: like I just want to send it to you so 722 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: that you could hear it, like it's special to me. 723 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: And I sent it to her and she called me 724 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: and she said that she started tearing up listening to 725 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: her because she she had stories about that where people 726 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: were talking to her and telling her how she needs 727 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: to like sexualize herself a little bit more. She was 728 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: just trying to stick to the core. And she said, 729 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, that whole she just wanted to be an artist, 730 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: like she felt that because that's all she She was like, 731 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: I just wanted to rap and make music, you know 732 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. And so that's how we made our connection. 733 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: And then after that, a couple months later, it was 734 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: when I said her, I can make it, and then 735 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, we ended up doing that. So she was 736 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: definitely the one that was on them. So she was 737 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: she was she was the main behind that entire Yeah, 738 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: for sure, I saw I thought that when I heard it. 739 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this ship like just reminds me 740 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: of like like cause I've been a Rhapsody fan for 741 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: so long. Yeah, and you know it's just I was like, 742 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: how is she not more respected? And it's really like 743 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: it's just because we have such a shallow industry that 744 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: we're in and really just like fans are so also 745 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: shallow money. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, 746 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: not every fan, like you know, it's unfortunate, and you 747 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: know I used to be guilty of that when I 748 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: was like younger, you know what I'm saying, Like, but 749 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: I definitely think like that's an important verse and then 750 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: even the second verse, and this is something that I 751 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: think is finally I feel like starting to kind of 752 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: die out. I feel like a lot of the young 753 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: artists that I'm meeting aren't drugged out of their minds exactly, 754 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: but for like two or three years bro, like twenty seventeen, 755 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, last year, like it's it was rough because 756 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: everybody we would have come by the radio station would 757 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: be fucking high as fuck and no understanding the damage. 758 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: Like and that's why to me that that song, like 759 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: I said, to me, the most important record on the 760 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: on the project, because it's like, not only is this 761 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: industry affecting, like the quote unquote street niggas that come 762 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: in and how they are with drugs and stuff like 763 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: that too. But that's the reason why even though he's 764 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: so loved and I love him too, you know, rest 765 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: in peace, mc miller. That's why I mentioned his name. Was, Yeah, 766 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: I heard you mention his name. I wonder if you're 767 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: going to catch some flat for that, Yeah, and I might. 768 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: But at the at the end of the day, like 769 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: I pride myself on being like one of the more 770 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: more honest artists out here, and I love mc miller, 771 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: and and it's a it's a tragedy what happened. But 772 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: the reason why I mentioned his name was to show 773 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: the industry, like it's for the people that's gonna say, well, 774 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: it's just these artists that are affected by it, the 775 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: ones that comes, and it's not this is just the 776 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: It's not just the littles. This is a great kid. 777 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: Hill was like one of the great. He was like 778 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: one of the great and a great kid and a 779 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: great guy and a nice guy in this industry in 780 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: my opinion, you know what I mean, destroy him. And 781 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: they're not just the young boys. It's not just the 782 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: young boys. And that was the reason why I did it. 783 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, there's a chance that I 784 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: could catch some flat. But I feel like this is 785 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: so important for people to understand. Is that, like it's 786 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: not just the littles. It's like this industry affects everybody, 787 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: especially the kids that are stars young like Mac Miller 788 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: has been in this shit since he was like eight, 789 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like when you 790 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: grow up in this industry, you almost don't even have 791 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: a shot unless we start changing how we approach kids, 792 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: Like these are kids, bro, you know what I mean, 793 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: And we're putting certain things in front of their face 794 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: and expecting them. You know, how are you, as a 795 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: fifteen year old, gonna be in the studio with one 796 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: of your idols and he offered you a blunt and 797 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: not hit the blunt? Like you know what I'm saying. 798 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: Like it is so it's like we got to start 799 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: taking more accountability or like if you're yet and like 800 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: you said, I mean, weed is one thing, but like 801 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: how are you going to be in the studio with 802 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 1: whoever and let's say they got zams or they're sniffing lines, 803 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: like bro, and these are your idols, You're like, I 804 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: don't want to look like the guy that's like you 805 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's the running joke like, oh, 806 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,959 Speaker 1: Snoop pass me a blood, I don't smoke, but Snoop 807 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: past me a blood, Like you know what I'm saying, 808 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: Like that's like I've been, I've done that, but I 809 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: do smoke. Yeah, but I also like, yeah, I'm like 810 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: Snoop passages like how are you not going to do 811 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: exactly people? But but it's like, yeah, I think that, 812 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've been, I've been kind of you know. 813 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: Shout Out to Future is one of my favorite artists, 814 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: but I was kind of critical of him pretty heavily 815 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: when it came to like just the narrative he was 816 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: pushing and he's living his true through his music. But 817 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: I just think that there was just an air of 818 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: and it's still going on, you know, but I just 819 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: feel like there's this whole way of kids that were 820 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: just influenced by by like that that kind of ship. 821 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: Like I think I think, you know, the fact like 822 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: mask Off was such a big song. The whole hook 823 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: is a back purpose number one rec I got right 824 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: is playing. Yeah, it's playing twenty thousand times a day 825 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: on the radio, bro, and they're not bleeping out Moley 826 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: birth is that they're not bleeping it out, Yeah exactly, 827 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: And that's my whole thing is like like for me, 828 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I never I never mind catching 829 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: flak if it's something that I stand on and it's 830 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: in my morals, you ge what I'm saying. Like, And 831 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: that's not to say that I'm perfect, because you know 832 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: there's times that I rap about you know what I mean, 833 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: smoking or drinking or whatever in case I may be 834 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: because I do it, But I also tell the other 835 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: sides of the story as well. And that's all I 836 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: say for people is like, you know, everybody live your truth, 837 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But understand that like when 838 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,479 Speaker 1: you when you're giving money and fame and all this stuff, 839 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: like you still hold a certain level of responsibility. And 840 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: if it's artists that I am genuinely enjoying I'm a 841 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: fan of, I'm always gonna hold you accountable regardless. And 842 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that I don't like you, you know 843 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: what I mean. It just means that I'm holding you 844 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: accountable because you're in a position that you know, you 845 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: are a role model to somebody, you know, what I mean. 846 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: And if your fans, if I catch flackpard in your fans, 847 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: you know, feel some type of way about it, I'm 848 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: okay with it if it's something that I morally stand on, 849 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's kind of where 850 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm at with it. Also on the project, you talk 851 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: about losing losing a child. Yeah, the issue of you know, abortion. 852 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: I think that's something that I never personally went through, 853 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: but I know, you know a lot a lot of 854 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: people have. Yeah, yeah, And I haven't really heard anybody 855 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: really dive into that issue on record since, Like there 856 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: was a comment in Lauryn Hill record when I was 857 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: a kid that was like crazy, But yeah, why was 858 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: that important to address? Because I feel like that's something that, 859 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: you know, man, that's a deep issue to dive into. Bro. Yeah. Yeah, 860 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: for me, it's funny. As a defense mechanism, I do 861 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: this thing where when I go through stuff that bothers me, 862 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: I just kind of forget about it, And so writing 863 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: about it was actually like the first time I even 864 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: talked about it. Like I didn't even tell my brother 865 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,959 Speaker 1: as close as we are that that happened, just because 866 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: I just kind of wanted to forget about it, and 867 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: unfortunately it was in a situation where there wasn't a 868 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: lot of love in that situation, and you know, I, 869 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, was the person that you know, didn't didn't 870 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: necessarily like like tell her to do it, but at 871 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: the same time was definitely like a guide trying to 872 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: lead her like this is going to mess up my 873 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: life or whatever the case may be. And I regretted it, 874 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: not because I wanted a kid at the time, but 875 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: just because of the fact that, you know, this is 876 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: something that is so sacred to a woman, and a 877 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: woman should be able to have that, you know what 878 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: I mean, which she still ultimately had that choice, but 879 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: I was being guiding and so that's why I talk 880 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 1: about it in the record, to hold myself accountable and say, 881 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: like I need to grow up, like that's that's childish 882 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: to have that mindset. That's childish to be that way 883 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: and to think that way, you know what I mean. 884 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: And so how long was that that was probably like shit, 885 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: like two and a half years ago, oh shit, yeah recent, yeah, 886 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: yeah exactly. And so for me, it was just like, 887 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to hold myself accountable for that 888 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: and speak about it and just for anybody else that's 889 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: in that situation to know, like, you know, men have 890 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: to be men, and you make the bed, you gotta 891 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: lie in it, you know what I mean. And it 892 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: should be her choice. And if she wants to do that, 893 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 1: then cool. If she doesn't want to do it, then cool, 894 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: But it should always be their choice, you know what 895 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I wanted to hold myself accountable or that, Yeah, no, 896 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that that's some real shit. Like I think 897 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: that you know if you're like, uh, like your guide 898 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: in your narrative, like hey, look we don't work with 899 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: each other, like you know what I'm saying, Like you 900 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And sometimes like you're pretty much 901 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: saying like, look I really gonna be around like that, 902 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then that kind of 903 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: influences her decision and you know, as opposed to just 904 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: being like it's on you you want to do exactly 905 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: like you know where we are, Like she doesn't need 906 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: you to remind you mind, you of where you guys are, 907 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's my whole thing. 908 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, y'all can have a completely have 909 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: an adult conversation about what the circumstances are and all 910 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: of that. I think that that part should always be had, 911 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it shouldn't be a 912 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: guiding conversation, you know what I mean. It should be 913 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: just a conversation around where we are, you know, money, situation, 914 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: love and for sure, and then you know, ultimately you 915 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: make your decision. Isn't you make your decision? How did 916 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: the Showstop record come together with the Kendrick we'll call 917 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: him Adelte Yeah kind of like yeah, yeah, yeah, cause 918 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: that was like a shout out rock I kind of 919 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: took a swag on that. I saw Wind going crazy. 920 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I need some I need some ad 921 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: libs right right right right right right yeah by the way. Yeah, 922 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: but no, like how did uh like, did you just 923 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: grab those vocals from like a session or did he 924 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: come in and nah? Yeah, that sounded like the record 925 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: from the Black Panthers soundtrack with Travis? Was it off 926 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: of that? Not? The ideas were birth though from that 927 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: and when it was birth from those records, and I 928 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: had show Stop already and we were already talking about 929 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: it being a single, and I was trying to get 930 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: a verse. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, exactly, of course, 931 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 1: like I'm a swing for the fences. I was trying 932 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: to get a verse, but I started to slowly realize 933 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: in the conversation that ad libs are more reasonable, you 934 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's funny cause fans be 935 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: giving me slacked it like, oh, Kendricks, Oh he just 936 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: hit the ad libs. I'm like, it took me six 937 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: months to get these ad libs, Like y'all better enjoy 938 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: these ad libs, like it took me a long time 939 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: to get those ad libs from dot you know what 940 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like to a point where I thought they 941 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: weren't coming. And it's funny because even when he get 942 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: the ad libs, he did a whole track of him 943 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: and I still like, we're like taking some and plugging 944 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: them in different places and stuff like that, because he 945 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: hit me and he was like, you know, like I 946 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: did the ad libs, but it feels a little crowded. 947 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: And then when I sent him the record back, you know, 948 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: we plugged him in certain places, he was like, Okay, cool, 949 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: that feels more natural or whatever, because he even when 950 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: he sent them to me, he didn't really like how 951 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: it sounded, so he wasn't gonna want it to come 952 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: out that way, you know what I mean, And so 953 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: I had to rearrange him and make it feel like 954 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: a record and then, uh, you know, he gave me 955 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: his blessing on it. But yeah, shout out to do. Yeah, 956 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: it's crazy because you would think, like coming to TD, like, 957 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: I feel like fans expect you to just get the 958 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: automatic Kendrick record. Yeah. I think that's happened for a while. Man, 959 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: Like they think it's like and that's what I like, 960 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: y'all think it's been like that for a very long time. 961 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: They think it's like a TD castle you walk in 962 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: and then you just get records from everybody. I'm like, 963 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: the feature like it was hard to get the que 964 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: a fucking menu or something like its Q record is 965 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: crazy though, thank you. The first he did not make 966 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: me play. I'm glad he didn't because I'm horrible and golf. 967 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: But uh nah, that was actually one of the ones 968 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: that my manager chem is he also manages Q, and 969 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: so he pitched it to him and but I didn't. 970 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if he was gonna do it, you 971 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But he came through and he 972 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: killed that shit though, fuck with Q, man, because Q 973 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: will all like, it don't matter if you're major, Like 974 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: if he fucks with you, like, he'll do the verse exactly. 975 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: And if he's like in that headspace like I like 976 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: Q because it's like that one thing. If he fucks 977 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: with you, he'll do the verse. And then also like 978 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: if Q was working, like he's working and you know 979 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: what I mean, show like you'll have like I remember 980 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: I had. I was listening to like like Burner Styles 981 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: p album and that food was on there, and I'm like, man, 982 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: that's why I cused the Realist because he'll tap in 983 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: with whoever, like I know him and Freddy got some 984 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: ship on the way that I just heard. That's crazy. 985 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm already knowing that's probably crazy, super crazy. But I 986 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 1: need to give Freddy or some ship shout out to Freddy. 987 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: Freddie is hard bro. What'll make it happen? Man? Yeah, no, 988 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: I definitely need to do that. All right, So the 989 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: album comes out, well, let's just we're gonna drop this 990 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: on Friday, so it's like being nice. So so the 991 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: album is out. Because the album's out, the albums out, 992 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: go listen to new Beginners right now? Can we Hey, okay, 993 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: so can we can we talk about the Logic lines? Yeah, yeah, 994 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: let's do it. I've known Logic for a very long time. 995 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't take him as a culture vulture. Now. Obviously 996 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm a white man in hip hop, so you know, 997 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: you can think what you want about that. Yeah, but 998 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,479 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of have known dude since about 999 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, and you know, I know him as like 1000 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: a hardcore hip hop fan. Like that's how me and 1001 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: him connected was through conversations about like a quimini, you know, 1002 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: just just a lot of rap shit. Yeah, he seems like, 1003 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a very disliked guy the last five 1004 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: or six years. But what is what's the issue with 1005 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: Logic and why did he get that those bars? Or 1006 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: for me, it's funny because that's the misunderstanding of the line. 1007 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 1: And I learned a good lesson on that. I learned 1008 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: two lessons timing as far as reading the room and 1009 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: also like if you're going to say something, you need 1010 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: to kind of go in a little bit more detail. 1011 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: When I rap, I just kind of rap about what 1012 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm feeling at the time. So I too, have loved 1013 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: Logic since like damn near twenty ten and kind of 1014 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: going off for what we said earlier, like if I'm 1015 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: a fan of you, I hold you accountable. A lot 1016 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: of fans thought that I was saying he's a culture 1017 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 1: vulture of hip hop. That's not what I was talking about, 1018 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so from a hip 1019 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: hop standpoint, you can't talk about the last ten years 1020 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: of hip hop without talking about Logic, like he's he's 1021 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: in that category. You know, he's not as big as 1022 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: Kindrick in them, but he's in that category. That yeah, 1023 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 1: one thousand percent. So what I was speaking about was 1024 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 1: the fact that Logic is a black man, and Logic 1025 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: is somebody that has talked about black plight, black struggle. 1026 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: That's what he talked about in his come up. And 1027 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: then when he got to a certain album, I think 1028 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: it was Everybody, and he touched on a lot of 1029 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: issues that was going on in America, suicide, transgender's gaze, everybody, 1030 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: and I personally felt like he didn't touch on black 1031 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: lives matter enough. So when I said the line about 1032 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: the culture, I just meant black culture is what got 1033 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: you to the point that you're at. So when you're 1034 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: at the top of your platform where now you're ready 1035 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: to explode to the world to have this huge artist 1036 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: like talk about us too. And that's what I meant 1037 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: by that, And that just comes from my passion for 1038 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: black culture in general and black lives and what's going 1039 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: on with black people and stuff like that. I mean, 1040 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: it came from that perspective, you know what I'm saying. 1041 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: They had nothing to do with hip hop, had nothing 1042 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: to do with records or rapping and nothing like that. 1043 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: Like I'm a Logic fan, but like I said earlier, 1044 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: like I hold people accountable, I would never want somebody. 1045 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: I would want somebody to do the same thing with me. 1046 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: If I get to a certain platform and now I'm 1047 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: about to have that album that explodes, It's like, you 1048 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: still gotta remember why you're doing this, which is to 1049 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, bring awareness, you know what I mean to 1050 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: people and stuff like that. Yeah, I think I actually 1051 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: was not a fan of that album. That's probably, uh, 1052 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: And that was exactly I think a lot of people 1053 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 1: that were hardcore Logic fans weren't. Y. Yeah, yeah, honestly, 1054 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: like this last album that just dropped is incredible. Was 1055 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: the last album, like the first album I've fucked with 1056 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: since his second album is Incredible journey or true storyline. Ye, 1057 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: no pressure is incredible. No Pressure's fire. But yeah, I 1058 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: think that, like, I don't know, man, I just think that, 1059 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a fair criticism, you know. 1060 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: I think that album everybody was like, I think he 1061 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: was dealing with a lot of the biracial shit. He's 1062 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: probably meant. Yeah, I think that he was just probably 1063 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: people don't know my logic is black, Yeah, no, which 1064 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 1: is I think he was probably having a lot of 1065 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: meetings and stuff like that, you know. I mean, I 1066 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: don't want to speculate too much, but I think that 1067 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: people were telling them like, this is what you have 1068 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: to do to get to the next to the next level, 1069 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's my whole thing is, 1070 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,439 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just if I'm a fan of you, 1071 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm going to I'm, like 1072 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: I said, I'm one of the more honest artists in 1073 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: this shit. I don't I don't necessarily, I don't have 1074 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: the goals like everybody else has to be the greatest 1075 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: of all time, because I don't believe that exists. Like 1076 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: in ten years, there's going to be somebody that's going 1077 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: to tell you NBA young boys better than Kendrick. It's 1078 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: going to happen like so already generation of fans right 1079 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: now that you will tell you that's a straight face exactly. 1080 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: So for me, it's like, I just want to make 1081 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: impact and I want to I want to broker honest 1082 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 1: conversations and try to make an impact to where people, 1083 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: you know, elevate their their honesty, their accountability, their responsibility, 1084 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. And so, but like I said, 1085 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to escape my accountability in it. I 1086 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: didn't read the room you know logic when I wrote it. 1087 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: He wasn't retired. He's retired now. He's trying to do 1088 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 1: his own thing, you know what I mean. And so 1089 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: that is something that if I could go back, I wouldn't. 1090 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: I just wouldn't say the line out there because it's like, 1091 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: let him do his thing, you know what I mean. 1092 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: And so it would be a conversation that if I 1093 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: ever met him, I would have with him personally still, 1094 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't necessarily put it out saying for the record, 1095 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a chance in hell he doesn't 1096 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: know who you are. Like you said, Oh no, he 1097 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 1: definitely knows, but I like the it's like, bro, you're 1098 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: you're a hip hop stand and this is top dog entertainment. Yeah, 1099 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,959 Speaker 1: you know, and he's a Kendrick stand exactly exactly. You know. Yeah, 1100 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: but he had shout out to Logic though, like his 1101 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: career musically, like I'd be lucky if I was able 1102 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: to reach that level. You know. I'm glad you made 1103 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 1: that clear because, like you know, a lot of people 1104 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: took it from a hip hop standpoint, which I can't 1105 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: blame him. And it's funny because when they dropped him, 1106 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: like oh damn, it does sound like I'm saying that, 1107 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: like like it does sound like yeah, because I was thinking, like, 1108 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, I know, Logic is like a 1109 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: real hip hop head like this guy. You know, it 1110 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: works with no idea. You know. No, you can't, you can't. 1111 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,720 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, Like you can't say Logic 1112 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: isn't a hip hop guy, and that's not what I 1113 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: was saying. But you know, no, I understand what. I 1114 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: understand why you said that though. Yeah, I think that 1115 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: what's going on right now, man, it's very important. Like 1116 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: that's why I tell everybody like you know, if you're 1117 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: let alone, just the normal citizen who has empathy and 1118 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: and and gives a fuck about your neighbor or just 1119 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to get people to care about 1120 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: shit that doesn't directly affect them. But specifically, if you 1121 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: are a part of any sort of black culture, and 1122 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean that as far as you know. You could 1123 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: be a radio personality, you could be somebody who does 1124 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: YouTube shit, you could be whatever. But if you're benefiting 1125 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: off the back of black culture, Like bro, I've literally 1126 00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: made my entire career off of black music. That's my 1127 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: whole life revolves around black culture since I was fifteen 1128 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: sixty really since I was like twelve even earlier, you know. 1129 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: But like you know, I had a very interesting upbringing, 1130 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: Like I was raised in a house where my best 1131 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 1: friend was black and his grandma lived with me and 1132 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: his sister lived with me when I was a kid, 1133 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, So, like it frustrates me so much to 1134 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: see almost like you just said, with the logic thing, 1135 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: no logic obviously African American man. Yeah, so you know, 1136 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 1: it's a little different, but it frustrates me to be like, yo, 1137 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: how are you like talking in and out of Drake 1138 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: songs every day on the radio and like afraid to 1139 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: fuck up your social media so now. And it's crazy 1140 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,959 Speaker 1: because you posted a video on Instagram talking about that, 1141 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 1: and I got a lot of respect for you when 1142 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: you said that, you know, I mean I saw your 1143 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: Instagram post when you said that. You're like, you know, 1144 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 1: every day you're talking in and out of Drake songs 1145 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: and black culture. You're going to clubs and playing black music. 1146 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: There's black people there. These are the people that are 1147 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: literally affording you your life. And then when something happens, 1148 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: you know, it's like you're like in for when it's convenient. 1149 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: It's like you're tiptoeing in and out of the fucking 1150 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: like bro like. But when ship hits the fan, like 1151 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 1: you gotta like you gotta scream at the top of 1152 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,919 Speaker 1: your love exactly and shout out to Jack Carlow because 1153 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: I even hit him up and reached out to fan 1154 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: because uh, he was he was front line when that 1155 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: ship was going on. He was marching every single day, 1156 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: posting ship every single day, Uh, speaking at pep rallies 1157 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Like like I feel like I 1158 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 1: fuck with that, and like I always say, I always 1159 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: you know, play the other side of the fence and 1160 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: have accountability to the black people. Because Eminem did this 1161 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: ship on the BT Awards where he made like a 1162 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: free and they shipped on him, and I feel like, 1163 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, black people have to stop doing that as well. 1164 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: It's like when when there are white people that want 1165 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: to join the side, you know, and that was before 1166 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 1: years is that it was like two three years ago, 1167 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: and I feel like I thought it was dope. I 1168 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: this is the biggest white artist from a rap standpoint 1169 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 1: in the world. He's always been on this side of 1170 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 1: the fence. It's not like he's doing this for like, 1171 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 1: He's always been on the side of the fence. And 1172 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: then we kind of shipped on him. You know. I'm 1173 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: always hold my people accountable to him, say like that's 1174 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: not cool, you know what I mean, Like Eminem is 1175 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: somebody that's been on our side of the culture. You know, 1176 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: we have to tackle this ship together if we're gonna 1177 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: be able to make leeway, you know what. I Yeah, 1178 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: I think to like someone like him, you know, like 1179 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 1: he's got fans one hundred percent that are racist. Yeah, 1180 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 1: And he put that on the line, like if you 1181 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: are racist, don't like don't support me, don't fuck with me. 1182 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: There's something because because like I'm real close with a 1183 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: rapper named Ritz who's a white dude. Okay, that's actually 1184 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,919 Speaker 1: hilarious by the way. Yeah he's fired Okata check out 1185 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: and and like you know, you know, I got a 1186 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: boy named Jelly Roll and like a lot of times 1187 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: even like Tech nine, like is my boy, and like 1188 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of stuff with strange music and 1189 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: that just that world, and that world is mostly white fans. Yeah, yeah, 1190 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of them are racist. Bro. There's a 1191 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: lot of Tech nine fans that are racist as fuck. 1192 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: That's the same, bro, like straight up and like and 1193 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: and tackle tell you that too. You know what I'm saying. 1194 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure now you know, he's got an incredible following, 1195 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 1: but there's like a real faction of hip hop fans 1196 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: that just that are real like maga ass motherfuckers. Bro. Yeah, 1197 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 1: it's like it's it's very disappointing. But like you said 1198 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: about the eminem thing, like he might piss off a 1199 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: huge part of his fan base by saying something, But 1200 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: what he might also do is even if it's a 1201 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: thousand people who hear that freestyle, ye and it teaches 1202 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 1: them something and then they go google it and then 1203 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: they're like, like they they become more educated about the 1204 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: situation where they change their stance on shit like Eminem 1205 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,439 Speaker 1: influences people not thought they might be people who drink 1206 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: Monster Energy and have you know, Fox Racing cargo shorts. 1207 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: But but I'm saying, like he can reach people like 1208 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: and and there's gonna be there's gonna be parts of 1209 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: the of his fan base and just anyone anyone in 1210 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 1: the country that just aren't that they're just this is 1211 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: where they are. They're not gonna budge. Yeah, I think 1212 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,280 Speaker 1: it's about thirty and thirty. I think it's thirty percent 1213 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: over here, thirty percent over there, but that last, you know, 1214 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: forty percent, that's in the middle. You know, you fight 1215 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: for those, you know what I'm say. And even more importantly, 1216 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: there might be other white celebrities that wanted to say 1217 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: something and were about to say something and then saw 1218 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: Eminem get killed and step back. And so that's another 1219 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: reason why I feel like, you know, we can't do that, 1220 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: is because you know, that's those could have It could 1221 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,240 Speaker 1: have been other artists or celebrities or whatever that wanted 1222 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: to say something to stand with us, and it's like 1223 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: we take a step back by killing them because they 1224 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 1: might be with shit. Like Image jumped out the window 1225 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: and they went crazy on him. I'm just gonna I'm 1226 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: just gonna chill back, you know what I mean, and 1227 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: not say nothing. And it's like we need every single 1228 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: voice that we can get, you know what I mean, 1229 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,240 Speaker 1: and trying to change it, you know what I mean. So, yeah, 1230 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: that's how I feel. What do you think if someone's 1231 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: watching this and they're like kind of just unsure of 1232 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: the things that they could probably do to, you know. 1233 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: For me, like I was one of those guys who 1234 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: was like you know, and I've been you know, anytime 1235 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,839 Speaker 1: there's I mean, you know, I grew up like I said, 1236 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: my best friend Rams is the best man at my wedding. 1237 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 1: Like we would be riding around in his neon when 1238 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: I was like fourteen. He was older than me, and 1239 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,919 Speaker 1: we get pulled over and this food yanked out the car, 1240 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: put on the curb, and then they would be interrogating 1241 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: me like why are we hanging out? Why are you 1242 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: hanging out with this like older black kid, you know. 1243 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: And so it's always been something close to my heart. 1244 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,879 Speaker 1: But like for me, it's like okay, like I want 1245 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: to put my money where my mouth is, but I 1246 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: didn't know where to donate because you know, you never know, 1247 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: like with so many of these that's real. It's like 1248 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 1: it's it's so agenda. Like, yeah, so I just called 1249 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,479 Speaker 1: Killer Mike anytime I got any sort of questions about that. 1250 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: That's a good person to call Killer Mike. I say, hey, man, 1251 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 1: I really want to post, I want to donate some money, 1252 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: and I want to shed a light on some charities, 1253 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: like just tell me what you tell me what to do. 1254 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,399 Speaker 1: He's a good leader in this ship. Yeah, and he's like, yo, 1255 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: there's you know this, this this cool. You know what 1256 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then obviously, you know, protesting, And I 1257 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: think I might have called it. I might have caught 1258 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: the rona when I was out protesting. I might have 1259 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: that might have been where I got it. But but 1260 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 1: I do think that there's like like it's I know 1261 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: that a lot of people get shipped for being social media, 1262 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, like quote unquote like oh you're doing this 1263 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: for the grammar or whatever it can and there's a 1264 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: lot of that. Yeah, but I do think either way 1265 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's better than nothing. I think the 1266 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 1: Black Square shit was kind of cordy, to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, 1267 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it's like looking back, Yeah, looking back 1268 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: on it, I was like, uh, you know, that didn't 1269 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: really help. But I think it's a growing process. And 1270 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: like I have because I worked at a I worked 1271 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: at a corporate company before I got signed. That's where 1272 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: I was working at. So I had a lot of 1273 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: white co workers and friends still and uh, some of 1274 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: them even reached out to me, was like, you know, 1275 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 1: what do we do? And for me, I just think 1276 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: that the biggest thing that you can do in the 1277 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 1: day to day life is to just try to understand 1278 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: what's going on and do your research and empathize with 1279 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: it and you know, hold other people accountable. Like I 1280 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: think that that's the bare minimum that you can do. 1281 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: Because people that are of that world that are naive 1282 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: quote unquote, Like, you're not naive. You grew up in 1283 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: this black culture. But there's other people that are naive 1284 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: because they didn't grow up here, but they do. They 1285 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 1: are humans and they feel for us now because they're aware. 1286 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: So I tell them, like all the people that are 1287 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: in your circle, you just have the whole them accountable 1288 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: when y'all are having these conversations and stuff like that, 1289 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,399 Speaker 1: like you can't be afraid to speak up to them 1290 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: because that's your quote unquote friend or whatever. There's like 1291 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: these white people conversations that happen where there's no other 1292 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,919 Speaker 1: races around exactly, and then that's when you really find out, 1293 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: like that's a fact. Whether it's people you work with, 1294 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: or you might be at a fucking liquor store or something. 1295 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: Somebody in line might say some slick shit to you 1296 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: because you're another white guy and they think that like, oh, 1297 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: it's all cool, like you know what I mean? Bro? 1298 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: Like what? Bro? What? And those are the conversations that 1299 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 1: I feel like everybody like, that's not that's not cool, 1300 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean? And those are the 1301 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: conversations that you gotta hold people accountable, you know, at 1302 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: the bare bare minimum, and then you know, if you 1303 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: want to go that extra mile, you know, you do 1304 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: do your research. I advise everyone of Facebook too. That 1305 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: place is the fucking pool of the Internet. It's the worst. 1306 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: It's up there with Twitter. Twitter. I think it's like 1307 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: the Twitter's fail book is where like the memes and 1308 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: like the fake news story, bro, when my mom has 1309 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: hit me with so much like is this true? And 1310 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, Mom, did you see that on face? Yeah? 1311 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: Like listen then no, probably not true. There By the way, 1312 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: shout out to Kendrick. I got to address the whole 1313 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: the rumor of him leaving TD. He put that to 1314 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 1: bed today. You see Thelues Animal. Yeah, No, I thought 1315 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 1: it was really really funny, and I think that, like, 1316 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, I hope he's putting out some music soon, 1317 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 1: but is it is it kind of like the Gift 1318 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 1: and the curse of the TD thing because any sort 1319 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: of like like Kendrick is like, you know, I put 1320 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,919 Speaker 1: him Top five. Ever, Yeah, I always tell people because 1321 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: there's like og hip hop fans and tell me I'm crazy, 1322 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: But I'm like, yo, you're gonna put Biggie in the 1323 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: top five, which is fair off the two albums, Yeah exactly, 1324 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: But Kendrick got yeah, three classics and we're not talking 1325 00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: about Section eighty yeah, or the Kendrick or or you know, 1326 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: even untitled you know, but like we're just talking about 1327 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 1: his three official YEA Good Kid, the Butterfly, and a 1328 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: Don Yeah Sion eighties up there with that with those 1329 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: rest you know what I'm saying. But but yeah, I 1330 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,959 Speaker 1: just feel like everywhere you're gonna go, Yeah, you're gonna 1331 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: get Kendrick questions. It's funny because I was just talking 1332 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: to Punch about this the other day. I don't think 1333 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: that there's been an artist that's been in my position 1334 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: as far as like the amount of pressure. And what 1335 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean by that is that, you know, I'm the 1336 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: first artist that has to be broken without Dave Free 1337 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 1: being around. He hasn't been involved in any part of 1338 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: my career. And that's not a shot at him. He 1339 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: just left when I was coming in, So that's timing. 1340 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: There hasn't been an artist, a new artist to drop 1341 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: when the thirst level of the bigger artists has been 1342 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: this high, you know what I mean. It's been three years. 1343 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: It's been three years, and it's been four for Zay, 1344 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: and it's been like three for Sizza, it's been like 1345 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 1: two for for Rock two and a half got earlier 1346 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 1: actually like a year and a half ago. You get 1347 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So for all the bigger artists, there's 1348 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: never been a younger artist to drop when there's been 1349 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 1: that first level that high, you know what I mean. 1350 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: So It's like I'm in a position where I have 1351 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 1: to make people care, I have to do the creative 1352 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: direction without Dave, and everybody just wants to die album, 1353 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm definitely under like 1354 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 1: the most pressure that any TV artist has been under. 1355 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I always try to look 1356 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,479 Speaker 1: at pros and cons in every situation instead of saying 1357 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: woe was me, And the pro is that like all 1358 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: eyes are on me, you know what I mean. And 1359 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: I know that there's gonna be a lot of fans 1360 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: it's just like you all reasons dropping cool, he's out 1361 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: the way, you know, like where's the next album or whatever, 1362 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 1: But there are gonna be those handful of fans that 1363 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: still go listen because you know, it's still TD. And 1364 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 1: I think that this project is strong to where they're 1365 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: gonna know, you know what I mean, that like, oh, 1366 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: this dude is not just like another dude that's just dropping, 1367 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: Like this is a very very strong project. So that's 1368 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward to. What your uh, you know, 1369 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: I know you got Isaiah on the album, and I've 1370 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 1: been waiting for like you said, man, yeah, I think 1371 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 1: he's one of the greats. I think he's somebody who 1372 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: don't get enough. I mean, also he hasn't put an 1373 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 1: outbount Yeah exactly, it's like to the other side of it. 1374 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: But what's your relationship like with him? You know, I think, 1375 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: like I said, there was there was just there's just 1376 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: been so many rumors about his career and like you know, 1377 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: I know he's still on the label. I think for 1378 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 1: a while there there was like some speculation that he 1379 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: might have not been on the label. But like what's 1380 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 1: y'all's relationship in dynamic? We have a great relationship and 1381 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 1: shout out today me and around the same age. And 1382 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate a because he's been through a lot of 1383 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 1: shit that I'm still going through and he holds me accountable. 1384 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 1: Without going into detail, he called me and help me 1385 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 1: accountable about the logic shit just about like bro read 1386 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 1: th room, you know what I mean, like not necessarily 1387 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 1: getting on me about what I said, but just like 1388 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: why you know what I mean? And so you know, 1389 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: there were things that he said that I agree with. 1390 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 1: There was things that he said I didn't agree with. 1391 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I love anybody 1392 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: that will call me that cares about me and hold 1393 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: you accountable because that is a tough conversation to have 1394 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 1: with anybody that you love, you know what I mean. 1395 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: And so there's the kind of people you want around you, 1396 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 1: those kind of people you want around you one hundred percent. 1397 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: And so you know, I fuck was that. We have 1398 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: a great relationship. I tell people by the time, Zay 1399 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: is a lunatic and that's part of the real you know, 1400 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: part of the delays in his music as well, is 1401 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: that he's fucking crazy. Like Zay, He's he's very very 1402 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: detailed about his music. He cares about it a lot. 1403 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 1: He cares about his music a lot, a lot. He's 1404 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 1: very connected to it. And so, you know, until it's 1405 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 1: where he wants it to be, in the records that 1406 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,479 Speaker 1: he wants, and him and Top get on the same 1407 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: page about that because it has to be records that 1408 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: he loves and is connected to, and it also has 1409 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 1: to be records that Top you know, believes can elevate 1410 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: his you know, his status. So you know that that 1411 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 1: that takes a minute sometimes and it's definitely a pushing 1412 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: pool thing because Top is probably the hardest critic of 1413 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: music that I've never heard it met. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. Like, yeah, 1414 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: I've heard so, but shout out to Zayoh. I don't 1415 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 1: think that people have to wait much longer though, Where 1416 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 1: will there be a continuation of the storyline of Lambeau 1417 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: Truck like You and Cons like might do a part 1418 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 1: two and something like there's we We've talked about it 1419 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: because we're working on the project, and there's gonna be 1420 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: a You and Cause joint. There will be a weird 1421 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: we're working on it. We're actually almost done. I was 1422 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 1: not gonna be like the Kendrick Cole album. No, it's 1423 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: not gonna be like that. Yeah, And I told me 1424 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,439 Speaker 1: and Cos talked about that. I said, bro, we're gonna 1425 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 1: do this, Like I don't want it. Like I said, 1426 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,439 Speaker 1: I came into ship as a fan. I never want 1427 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 1: to do to fans what other artists have done. That's 1428 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: frustrating because I've been a fan, you know what I'm saying. 1429 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: So I told Cauz, like, if we're gonna put this 1430 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 1: ship out there and talk about it on the internet, 1431 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: like it's got to come out, it's got to come out. 1432 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, and even if the labels don't agreed, 1433 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: and we got to just like leak it and we 1434 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 1: just got to both take it on the chain from 1435 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 1: the like SoundCloud. I don't know how you know what 1436 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it is what it is, but it 1437 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 1: has to come out, you know what I mean? Like, 1438 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: and so that's that's how I feel about it. But nah, 1439 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: it would have been done by now. But I was 1440 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: really just tying up this project. It was really like 1441 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: I forgot how long it in. How many hours it 1442 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 1: takes to send videos and I mean to do videos 1443 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: and get content together and all of that ship, and 1444 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: so I had to kind of back out. We were 1445 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: having sessions, and I had to kind of back out 1446 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: of those sessions for a minute to get my ship 1447 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 1: tied up. But shout out to him, you guys are 1448 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: we probably got like eight right now. We're trying to 1449 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 1: make sure the project is only like seven records, but 1450 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: we want to make like fifteen and then pick the strong. Yeah. 1451 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 1: So I actually just had a phone call with him 1452 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: last night because I sent some two joints that I 1453 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 1: did and I was like, you know, like I'm back 1454 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 1: working again, right, Yeah, I'm back working again, so like 1455 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: let's get cooking. And he was like thank god, because 1456 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 1: like I've just been missing as far as like the 1457 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 1: process of it, so uh yeah, we'll we'll probably wrap 1458 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,919 Speaker 1: that up like within the next month month and a half. 1459 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: What is uh do you remember what Top's reaction was 1460 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 1: to that song originally when you heard Causes portioned the 1461 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Top called me and said, he said, stick a Top 1462 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: his crazy. He said, yeah, I heard you was Robin Cole. 1463 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: Tell Kys remembers just a song. Just tell to make 1464 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 1: sure he remembers. It's just a song. Bro, don't don't 1465 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 1: don't come over it. It's not where you want to 1466 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 1: come over here with that. I do think it's dope though, 1467 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: that you guys are gonna do that project together, because 1468 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: I do feel like, no matter what dream villain Tde 1469 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 1: are gonna always be, they're they're the integrity in hip 1470 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: hop when it comes to creatively, like the artists that 1471 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 1: you're like that everyone signs like, I feel like that 1472 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 1: there's two constants when it comes to integrity, Like you 1473 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 1: know you're gonna get a certain level of music or 1474 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: quality when you know when it comes to those two camps. Yeah, 1475 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: and just call and Kendrick kind of having a simultaneous 1476 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: come up. Yeah, Yeah, it's been like right there, you 1477 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like Cole was on the Freshman 1478 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: cover year after Kendrick was on the exactly you know 1479 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then it's like, you know, I 1480 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: think Dot drop or or cold dropped Sideline story and 1481 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: then that I dropped Good Kid in Mass City and 1482 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: then you know, uh, what's the record on section eighty 1483 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 1: that Jay Cole produced the Big One? Oh yeah, Ship. 1484 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,720 Speaker 1: I used to play it on the air all the time. Yeah, 1485 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: high power, high power, Yeah, exactly exact produce that back then, Yo, Yo, 1486 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,520 Speaker 1: you should get some cold beats. Reason, Bro, I'd hit 1487 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 1: him up for some like I'm like, like, what are 1488 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 1: you but he's working on this album. I'm like, Nigga, 1489 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 1: I know there's records that you're not If there's records 1490 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 1: that you're not using, Bro, he's actually a super super 1491 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: fire producer. Well but you know what I mean, Like 1492 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,080 Speaker 1: now Cole is a dope human. People'll be forgetting that ship. 1493 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: When Cole first came out, like he was low key 1494 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 1: like producing for other artists a little bit a thousand 1495 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: percent thousand per you know what I mean, and birthing ideas, 1496 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean as far as like from 1497 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: a writing perspective, not necessarily writing, but just birthing ideas. 1498 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: You know, I tell people those are the best producers 1499 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 1: to me, are the ones. Shout out Cal Banks. He 1500 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 1: does this and that's why I love working with him. 1501 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 1: But like, as an artist is hard to keep coming 1502 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: up with new ideas, But the producers that make beats 1503 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: and then kind of give you ideas of cadences and 1504 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 1: abilities and stuff like that, like those are the well 1505 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 1: is producing beat It's just beat making, you know what 1506 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, which is no offense to that if 1507 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 1: you were a beat maker, shout out to you. But 1508 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: it's like there's a difference between a producer and a 1509 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: beat maker. And I tell people that too. It's like, 1510 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's some producers that don't make beats, 1511 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: but they produced, Like shout out to Diddy, like he 1512 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 1: was one of those people. He didn't make beats, but 1513 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 1: room like, yeah, like you know what I mean, like 1514 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 1: let's do this, let's do that, And that's an important 1515 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: thing as well, you get what I'm saying. So so yeah, yeah, 1516 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 1: I was not was. I am a fan and I 1517 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 1: I always wanted that project though, and you know, I 1518 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 1: just wish that like the world would have got it, 1519 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so yeah, and that's 1520 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 1: another thing that I'm pushing to is like this relationship 1521 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 1: with dream Bille and TD to just come a little closer. 1522 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 1: I was the only artist that was on the Revenge album, 1523 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I was proud of that, 1524 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: me and Jid. I took a pay cut to go 1525 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 1: on that tour because I felt like it was important 1526 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: for the culture, not for you know what I mean, 1527 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Like Top still didn't, you know what I mean, feel 1528 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: because he's a businessman, like that don't make sense. But 1529 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 1: I took a pay cut because I feel like it 1530 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: was important and me and cos making this project to 1531 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 1: me is important and I just feel like it's important 1532 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: for our two labels to grow a relationship. And you know, 1533 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: we're always going to have friendly competition, but at the 1534 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 1: same time, we do need to grow a little bit 1535 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,480 Speaker 1: closer to a relationship. Now. I think it's dope. Like 1536 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 1: I remember as a kid, the Rough Riders and cash 1537 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 1: Money going on tour together. Yeah, yeah, you know, there 1538 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 1: was shit like that going on that, Like that shit 1539 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 1: is iconic, and I feel like that shit is kind 1540 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: of missing, Like you said, like the fact you went 1541 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 1: on tour with Jid is super fire. I just feel 1542 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 1: like that that kind of like, you know, like a 1543 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 1: sizz a fucking ri Lennox Strow would be so crazy, 1544 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 1: would be so crazy, bro, even like how they do 1545 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 1: Dreamville Fest. I'm like, if in we did the championship, 1546 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 1: So I'm like, if TD and Dreyville did a tour, bro, 1547 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: it would be literally insane. Bro. Like it was like 1548 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: and on. From a business perspective, it was so much 1549 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 1: money that can be made. What showed me that was 1550 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 1: a Days in Vegas. Did you go to Days? Of course? Yeah? Like, Bro, 1551 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 1: that Ship was the most lit festival I've ever performed 1552 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 1: at because you had hip hop fans at a festival 1553 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 1: going crazy and they don't get the opportunity to go 1554 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 1: to festivals. And see, I thought that the lineup was epics. 1555 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 1: The execution of the festivals, Yeah, the execution of the 1556 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: festival was like a little a little shaky. It also 1557 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 1: was fucking blown out of my mind for like three 1558 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 1: days straight at that tour, like high as fuck. And yeah, 1559 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: I was on mushrooms and Ship and it was a great. 1560 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,760 Speaker 1: It was a great I enjoyed, Like you said, like 1561 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 1: the music on Fridays and Sunday. The Friday was Dream, 1562 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 1: Sunday was TD. The fact each each camp had sh 1563 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: it was so hard. Bro. When Kendrick came out on 1564 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 1: the cowboy hat and I didn't know what was going 1565 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 1: on and people didn't think it was you look like 1566 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,360 Speaker 1: the fucking the monster and jeepers creepers, like yeah, Like 1567 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck is that? But like, 1568 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 1: imagine if like we have more songs together and if 1569 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: on both days you were getting like you know what 1570 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like because when being Cosy Lambo Truck there, 1571 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 1: it went crazy, it went crazy, And I'm like, bro, 1572 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 1: if if everybody on the labels had different records with 1573 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 1: each other, like and we were like doing ship on 1574 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 1: you guys should do like, it would have been stupid 1575 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:28,000 Speaker 1: five dates. I agree. Yeah, just like pick the biggest cities. 1576 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 1: You know what it is, work becomes tough is and 1577 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I think the only reason something like 1578 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 1: that won't happen or why it might not happen is 1579 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,680 Speaker 1: deciding who goes last. Yeah, And that's and that's to me, 1580 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that's what kills so many moments in hip hop is 1581 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 1: the that part of it is like who goes last? 1582 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 1: Who what? What? Label is kind of almost like Kendrick 1583 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: and Cole would almost like when I saw the Drake 1584 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 1: and Lil Wayne tour when they were going back and forth, 1585 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: ship was kind of fly. Yeah. I mean, obviously Drake's 1586 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: gonna go last, if anyone's gonna go last. But with 1587 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,960 Speaker 1: Colon Kendricks, there's really no definitive way to pick that. 1588 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 1: But I think they, Hey, yo, we're in l A. Yeah, 1589 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:17,320 Speaker 1: Kendrick's gonna go last. We're gonna do Atlanta. I don't know, 1590 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 1: maybe you do. That's what I say, because I've had 1591 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 1: conversation with my homies about to just just spitballing and talking ship. 1592 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: I feel like they should just divide the country at half, 1593 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take the East coast, you take the 1594 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 1: West coast. You know what I'm saying. When we on 1595 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,880 Speaker 1: the West, you go last. When we on the East, 1596 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 1: like La San Francisco, Charlotte, Lance to New York, YEP, 1597 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,680 Speaker 1: exactly and calling to Day. You get what I'm saying. Like, 1598 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 1: and I feel like if they did that and maybe 1599 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,840 Speaker 1: Texas or something, yeah, yeah, and three three and three 1600 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 1: and just you know, dot go last over here co 1601 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 1: go last over there. That's what Eminem did. They didn't 1602 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 1: even know they did. They did. They did two shows. 1603 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 1: They did, yeah, in New York and they did New 1604 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: York and Detroit they did the Baseball Stadium or whatever 1605 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 1: the big stadium is, and then in New York they 1606 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,559 Speaker 1: Didntyankee Stadium. That's fine. I had no idea that that happened. Yeah, 1607 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: they only did two shows. It was called the Home 1608 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,160 Speaker 1: to Home tour, so it was like the artist did 1609 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,719 Speaker 1: and in Detroit, J opened for m That's that's hard. 1610 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 1: That's hard with that. Yeah, like that she would be 1611 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 1: crazy tight though, like and that's what I'm saying, Like 1612 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 1: and if they did a show like that where they 1613 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 1: went back and for bro like like those are moments 1614 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: that like it doesn't matter what the ticket costs, like 1615 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 1: because it's priceless fans. Yeah, like like it's just take 1616 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: all my money, Yeah, take all my money? About that. 1617 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: In Vegas tour, I was hip hop and how much 1618 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 1: do you need? When people saw I had homies hitting 1619 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 1: me up like before I buy my ticket? Is this fake? 1620 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 1: Like like have you gotten paid for this ship? Like 1621 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,640 Speaker 1: that was the craziest lineup ever assembled because we did 1622 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 1: our real street Fest in August and they announced that 1623 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,599 Speaker 1: ship and I was like, oh my god, how much 1624 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: money did they spend on line? Like how did how 1625 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 1: is this even possible? Jesus Christ? They had like five 1626 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: major headliners there, like people, this is the person you 1627 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 1: picked to close the entire and they had like five 1628 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 1: of them. It was insane, Bro, It was crazy. Bro. 1629 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't even think Tyler closed out the day he 1630 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 1: was on. No, he didn't. Travis closed out that day. 1631 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 1: Travis closed out. That's what I'm saying. Like, it was insane, bro, 1632 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 1: that Travis was there. I want to say Cardi was there. 1633 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent shore she was supposed to 1634 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 1: be there, Okay, that's what it was. She was supposed 1635 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 1: to be there. Boozy was there, like Cole dot Tyler. Like, 1636 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like they that's five they were 1637 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 1: there one hundred percent. It was crazy, bro, it was 1638 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 1: super super crazy. So yeah, I just want like us 1639 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 1: to create more moments like that. You get what I'm saying. Yeah, 1640 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,200 Speaker 1: I think that's true. Man, I think that a lot 1641 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 1: of ego. I'm not saying that that's the case here, 1642 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 1: but I just think in general, like in hip hop, 1643 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 1: there's a lot of shit that like I think I 1644 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 1: call it business ego, which is not like the people. 1645 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 1: It's more about like the business like of the two sides, 1646 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 1: like it doesn't make sense for us, Sorry, well it 1647 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,639 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense for ourself, saying like, so I don't 1648 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: think it's necessarily artists, Like what if we just did 1649 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 1: something for the fans, wouldn't that be crazy? Like nah, 1650 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,479 Speaker 1: that'd be super crazy. Look, man, the album officially out 1651 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,800 Speaker 1: or project or mixtape or whatever we're calling it, whatever 1652 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 1: we want to call it. Does this mean we're gonna 1653 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 1: have to wait four years for your next project? It 1654 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,599 Speaker 1: does not. And that's one thing I've taken pride in 1655 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 1: and with the labels that I do feel like I've 1656 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 1: changed the mode of how things work a little bit, 1657 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 1: even to the fact, like fans are giving me a 1658 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 1: lot of slack, Like, man, we've had eight singles, like 1659 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,320 Speaker 1: we heard the whole album. I'm like, well, no, only 1660 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,160 Speaker 1: three of them are on the project, Like because tde 1661 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 1: artists don't just drop singles. That's not a thing, you 1662 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:36,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I was the first one 1663 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 1: that just was just putting shit out, Like I just 1664 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 1: get on tops nerves and tell you, like, let me 1665 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 1: shut reason up and put something out. Yeah, but I 1666 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 1: said that to say no, Like I'm almost done with 1667 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 1: my debut album. I'm hoping to drop like second quarter. 1668 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm aiming for. That's what my managers 1669 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 1: and all of us are talking about. So that's what 1670 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,639 Speaker 1: we push them for it and maybe a little cause 1671 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 1: of trying to get that out before my debut. So 1672 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the Cause and reason shit January 1673 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 1: I am. That's what I'm aiming for. That's what I'm 1674 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 1: aiming for. I gotta I gotta double check with cos 1675 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 1: of schedule because I know that he's wrapping up his album. 1676 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 1: But we've already been in the grants that like we're 1677 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,519 Speaker 1: just gonna put that out. We don't got to do 1678 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 1: nothing crazy behind it, just for the fans. We just 1679 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,599 Speaker 1: put it out with video or two years, a couple 1680 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 1: of videos. Let it do what it's gonna do. You 1681 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 1: get what I'm saying, and hopefully get some features from 1682 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,200 Speaker 1: both sides, and that to be the closest thing that 1683 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 1: people What we're trying to do is make it the 1684 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 1: closest thing that people can get to a TD Dream 1685 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 1: Build tape. So we're trying to get features from both sides. 1686 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, heavily featured, exactly, heavily featured, 1687 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And get some ship from 1688 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 1: our side, get some ship from their side, put it 1689 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:38,639 Speaker 1: out for the fans. We don't got to do nothing. 1690 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 1: So and j I do ever been on the record together, 1691 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: not from my understanding, but I feel like that would 1692 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,840 Speaker 1: be crazy. Though, I think that would be crazy. I'm 1693 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,800 Speaker 1: gonna put my vote out there and J I D 1694 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 1: you my guy, but get them I think by the way, 1695 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,600 Speaker 1: I know that DJ had had this big thing that 1696 01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 1: you got, you got, you gotta ate up by Yes, 1697 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,840 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was exact close. You didn't think 1698 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: it was that close. I think was full shit. Oh okay, 1699 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: thank you. Y'all about to say okay, yeah, yeah. And 1700 01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,600 Speaker 1: he knows that he can get a reaction, so you 1701 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean. He knows I'm so competitive, he 1702 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 1: can get a reaction. But uh but nah, like like 1703 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 1: so did go crazy? But like I tell people all 1704 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,280 Speaker 1: the time, like I always I always make sure that 1705 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,920 Speaker 1: like my verse is there before I send it off. 1706 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 1: And I like Honestly, I like when artists hear my 1707 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 1: verse and try to like go crazy. I'll do it 1708 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,439 Speaker 1: because it makes the song better, you know what I mean. 1709 01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't want you to send no bullshit because 1710 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: then I'm not gonna put the song out, you know 1711 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 1: what I mean. And so but I will say shout 1712 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 1: it's two artists, shout out Boogie and Rhapsody. I probably 1713 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 1: won't be sending them anymore versus First because Boogie on 1714 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Trapped In went crazy bro Boogie went crazy on Trapped 1715 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 1: In and then rahaps I can make it when so 1716 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 1: so crazy. So I'm like y'all too, I gotta get 1717 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 1: in the studio. We gottat, we gotta write this. We 1718 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,599 Speaker 1: gotta do it together. You gotta do this together, y'all. 1719 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 1: Can't just keep on like having my my ship and 1720 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 1: like being all you know, you take two muths to 1721 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 1: write a verse and send me back a fucking eather 1722 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,920 Speaker 1: nahs verse Like, nah, We're not doing that no more. 1723 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,800 Speaker 1: Look at the album reason The Merches out as a 1724 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,760 Speaker 1: merch drop yeah March, Yeah, it would have dropped by 1725 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 1: the Yeah, okay, so the Merch will be out on Friday, 1726 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,920 Speaker 1: which is it's past Friday. No, it's Friday. Now. We're 1727 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 1: dropping we're dropping this. Yeah, so the March is out. Now, 1728 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,559 Speaker 1: the March one hundred percent reasons care. Let's go perfect man, 1729 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 1: that's dope.