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Speaker 1: this morning? Hi? Hey? What the heck? Alright, it's very creepy.

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Speaker 1: What's going on on? How are we doing? Guys? Hey? Jason?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get right into it. We gotta get

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Speaker 1: to this Detroit Lion defense. Yesterday you guys talked about

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Speaker 1: the Lions offense versus the Cowboys defense. Today we talk

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Speaker 1: we do we do need to catch up on some

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Speaker 1: injury information. Yesterday there were three players that did not

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Speaker 1: practice Malik Collins, Travis Frederick, Shawn Lee. Nothing surprising about that,

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about those three guys and what you're

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Speaker 1: expecting this week as far as their health. Well, I'll

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Speaker 1: to Steven Jones every week for a special edition and

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Speaker 1: that's not really what the head coach I don't think

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Speaker 1: already talked about it yesterday. It's just it doesn't surprise

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I guess they're gonna see this

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Speaker 1: I would. If you had to identify one guy that

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Speaker 1: you thought was the best player on this defense, who

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Speaker 1: would it be. It's hard to say because let's let's

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Speaker 1: assume if Once is there at I think your answer

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Speaker 1: is gonna be Once. But if he's not there, who

430
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Speaker 1: is the best player on this defense? Probably Slay Um.

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Speaker 1: I think Gerard Davis will and at times is a

432
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Speaker 1: really good player. He's I mean, he's their centerpiece linebacker.

433
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Speaker 1: He's a first round pick out of Florida. I think

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Speaker 1: he will be good, but he's he's just looks like

435
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Speaker 1: a young player who's not consistent. Second year yes, yes,

436
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Speaker 1: second year Um Slay is really good. And then obviously

437
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Speaker 1: you know they love Quinn and they obviously love Digs.

438
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Speaker 1: They gave him a twenty million dollar extension. But I

439
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Speaker 1: would I would probably say Slay, which again I don't

440
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to use this game to

441
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Speaker 1: try to try to prove a point that the Cowboys

442
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Speaker 1: can pass like you don't need to, or at least

443
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Speaker 1: you would hope you don't need to just pound the ball.

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Speaker 1: And take what you get in the passing game. Don't

445
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Speaker 1: make Dak try to sit in the pocket and read

446
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Speaker 1: the defense this week. I mean he needs to do

447
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Speaker 1: that at some point, but I don't think he needs

448
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Speaker 1: to do it this week. I mean, you know, you

449
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Speaker 1: think about them having a really good corner and sleigh,

450
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Speaker 1: and you know, usually it's like, well, he's gonna match

451
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Speaker 1: up against somebody, But I mean who in this in

452
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Speaker 1: this situation? And the question is does he really in

453
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Speaker 1: a game like this, does a team say we're gonna

454
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Speaker 1: match up with anybody wherever you bring out there, the

455
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Speaker 1: Lions or any opponent really will ever do that. For years,

456
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Speaker 1: it's been like, Okay, well who's getting DEAs? Who is

457
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Speaker 1: he gonna follow Dez? And now we're just like, literally,

458
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Speaker 1: I don't care about that, Like, I don't think that

459
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Speaker 1: the Lions aren't gonna bother traveling a guy with any

460
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Speaker 1: of these receivers, and unless they decide that on certain

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Speaker 1: situations they want to do that. So for example, if

462
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Speaker 1: they know on third downs, we'd feel better if we

463
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Speaker 1: pay a little more attention to Cole Beasley because he

464
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Speaker 1: could be a third down guy. That always I always

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Speaker 1: liked what the forty nine Ers did way back in

466
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Speaker 1: the nineties. I think that's a better approach. If you've

467
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Speaker 1: got a stud corner like that, put him on the

468
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Speaker 1: number two receiver and him up and he's done, and

469
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Speaker 1: then you double the number one and now you're pretty

470
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Speaker 1: much shutting them all down because Alvin Harper could not

471
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Speaker 1: do anything on Don and then you kind of would

472
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Speaker 1: try to shut you try to double Michael that that

473
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Speaker 1: seemed to work better, But you know you can't do

474
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Speaker 1: it the same thing in the whole game. But I mean,

475
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Speaker 1: in the situation like this, when you know, if you said, hey,

476
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Speaker 1: give me one to seven the best receivers on the team,

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Speaker 1: we would have all kinds of different answers if we

478
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Speaker 1: tried to rate them. Yeah, I mean, it's not hard

479
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Speaker 1: to rate the Giants in Atlanta's and the Steelers receivers.

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Speaker 1: But for the Cowboys, I mean, I don't know who

481
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Speaker 1: the number one receiver on this team is. I don't

482
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Speaker 1: have the first idea but that and to that point,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm not worried about it because I don't

484
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Speaker 1: think you need to worry about paying extra attention to anybody.

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Speaker 1: If this secondary is as good as it looks, you

486
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Speaker 1: just put a guy on everybody and clog the box.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's gonna that is. That's been the blueprint,

488
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Speaker 1: and it will continue to be the blueprint. But I

489
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Speaker 1: think against this team it might not matter. You talked

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Speaker 1: about the fact that you thought a lot of their

491
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Speaker 1: sacks came as coverage sacks, that came as linebackers blitzing,

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Speaker 1: blitzing off the edge. It seemed to me, and I

493
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Speaker 1: know they had Frank Clark. He's a much better pass

494
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Speaker 1: rusher than it sounds like most of these guys, except

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Speaker 1: for you know, maybe if you want to throw Ezekiel

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Speaker 1: Asa in there. But it seemed like the Seahawks had

497
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Speaker 1: a similar kind of game plan. They were sending linebackers

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Speaker 1: at times, they were sending extra guys. It wasn't just

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Speaker 1: always a four man rush because of that. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that does that worry you at all? That they

501
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: had some success with sending linebackers in that kind of thing,

502
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Speaker 1: and that this team that the Lions seemed to have

503
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Speaker 1: done pretty well doing that these first couple of games.

504
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Speaker 1: I'm definitely worried about it, just because the past protection

505
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Speaker 1: hasn't been good enough. In two of the three games.

506
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Speaker 1: But I just and you're right. I mean what they

507
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: got five sacks in that game, and it came from

508
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Speaker 1: a variety of different places, but it just seemed like

509
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Speaker 1: the most obvious culprits there were. I mean, Frank Clark

510
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Speaker 1: beat tyran in ways that I'm not used to seeing,

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Speaker 1: and Lyle Collins as well. I mean he was moving

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Speaker 1: all around. Unless Onsa plays, I don't think they have

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Speaker 1: that guy. And I you know, Connor Williams will probably

514
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Speaker 1: get taken advantage of, you know, like a delayed blitz

515
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Speaker 1: type of situation. It'll probably happen. That's football. He's a rookie,

516
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Speaker 1: but I don't think he'll not to a degree that

517
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Speaker 1: it recks the game, which is what I'm always worried about.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think they have that guy that can

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Speaker 1: win these tackle matchups consistently enough for it to be

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Speaker 1: a big problem. What are we hearing about Ansa? Have

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Speaker 1: we heard anything about what his status is at this point?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you're gonna make him a

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Speaker 1: focal point of your video, he's probably gonna play. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about this run right here. He did a video

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Speaker 1: right of breaking down. I mean, well, each week I

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Speaker 1: break down one guy from the offense and defense from

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Speaker 1: whoever team we're playing, And that was the guy I

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Speaker 1: broke down. Why. I don't know. Brian suggested that guy.

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Speaker 1: So I better hope. I'm hoping well, but he's getting

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Speaker 1: the sense that he's gonna play, is yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean just by the maybe they're talking to some people

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Speaker 1: over there and we'll say, hey, he's way more plugged

533
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Speaker 1: in across the NFL than I am. But again, we

534
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Speaker 1: talk about our own practice report. He didn't he's DNP

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. We'll see Thursday's, Thursday's not out day. I mean,

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Speaker 1: where if he's still a DNP today, then you're feeling

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Speaker 1: more like he's not gonna play. Yeah, yeah, especially coming

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Speaker 1: off a week when he didn't play last week. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know. I mean, I know he's a great player.

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Speaker 1: I know that, but I don't know what to expect

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Speaker 1: from him. He hasn't played. I didn't spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of time on the Jets game because it was forever ago,

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Speaker 1: and I think the sheer amount of turnovers kind of

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Speaker 1: skews that. But he hasn't played since then. What was

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Speaker 1: his injury? Shoulder? Shoulder? So all right, let's go ahead

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Speaker 1: and take our final Do you have some nick Nope,

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Speaker 1: this thing. We got a phone call from Sean and Maryland. Sean,

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Speaker 1: what up? Hi, Hey guys, first time caller, a long

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Speaker 1: time listener, too quick opinions and done a question? Um first,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call. What does it sounds like? Hey,

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Speaker 1: I wrote down the exact same thing that. I don't

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Speaker 1: My feet are good. I see the field better than ever.

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Speaker 1: I have that hunger to win. I think we could

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Speaker 1: really excited about the opportunity. What it takes something? What

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Speaker 1: does that mean? I mean, what does I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what he said, but I mean I think that

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Speaker 1: sounds like I'm ready to play. When was the last

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00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: time you think Tony threw a football, like really through

638
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: a football, not like not just playing with his kids. Yeah.

639
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: I think Hawkins was going deep in then yeah. Yeah,

640
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: yeah that Instagram video when he heard his kid in

641
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: the stomach. Yeah. But you know, here's the deal, here's

642
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: why did you did you listen to the interview? Okay?

643
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Just I just wonder it was there something that you

644
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: no pointed out? I thought it was classic Tony Romo,

645
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: Like he's I mean, he is a confident, funny guy.

646
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: He wants you to know that he's a confident, funny guy.

647
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: He I mean he was. It was it sounded tongue

648
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: in cheek, you know, he Tony rum. He never even

649
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: officially filed his retirement paperwork. As far as I know,

650
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: he still hasn't. Wait, he's still an active player. He's

651
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: not active, but he wants you to know that he

652
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: could still do it, which you know, wouldn't the Cowboys

653
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: have to really quish his rights or something though? No, no,

654
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: for sure, yeah no, which if he was going to

655
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: come back, would come back to a team that needs

656
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback he ain't doing. But here's the problem. Here's

657
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: the problem with with the first thing is Sean talked

658
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: about when he said, if Tony and Ron Levery were here,

659
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: they'd be making our Super Bowl run. The problem with

660
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: that is you'd still be in the same problem you

661
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: were in for the last several years of Tony's career,

662
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: which is you'd have him for some games and then

663
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: same thing we're talking about Sean at the beginning of

664
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: the game, then you'd be without him because it had

665
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: gotten to a point where Tony just couldn't stay healthy.

666
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, he just couldn't stay healthy. And I

667
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: don't think backs and those kinds of things get better

668
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: as you get older. I think you're gonna if you're

669
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: having those kind of problems, you're probably going to continue

670
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: to have those kind of problems. It became a chronic

671
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: thing for him, So I kind of agree with him

672
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: on Ron Leary. I think if they would have kept

673
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: Ron Learry. Now, the money, that's a whole different thing,

674
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: and making that fit with all the other high priced

675
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: offensive lineman you got around here at some point. I

676
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you can pay five offensive linemen at

677
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: one time. So I kind of understand the business reasons

678
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: why he's not here. But if you were here, I

679
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: do think this offensive line would be appreciably better. But

680
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that Tony necessarily would would

681
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: have you in that kind of position consistently throughout an

682
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: entire year, because I don't think he'd make it through

683
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: a year. Well, he's right about the dezen Witten part, though,

684
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: that's true, and they would be here, that's true, and

685
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: they would be better with him, you know, But when

686
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: he were out, would it still be the same thing

687
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: as what we saw last year? Because I think that's

688
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: really the issue. Both Dezen Witton were here last year

689
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: when they were having the same kind of struggles offensively,

690
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: and you didn't have Tony, who's the backup Dak. Probably

691
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: like the chances with Dak as a backup quarterback that

692
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: comes in there because you know, and we don't get

693
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: a good read on him. Go back, go back and

694
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: watch the games where you know, Vince Young came in

695
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: for teams when he was playing, I guess for the

696
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: Giants or the Eagles or something. I mean like not bad. Yeah,

697
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: went in there and won a game one time on

698
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football. I mean, nobody knows what to

699
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: expect a guy like that. You can come in and

700
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: do some things. I think he would be a pretty

701
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: good backup there. But that doesn't matter that that's not

702
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: that's not the situation, that's not what it is. I

703
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: don't think he's coming back. I firmly believe that if

704
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: I was six four instead of five six, I'd be

705
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: playing football instead of talking about it for a living.

706
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean, so what you know, Dan, I'm almost six four,

707
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm not really close to playing almost smart ass analogy no,

708
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: I mean, let me have it, and I agree with that,

709
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: But I was looking at it more like I just

710
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: I believe that. I actually believe that. But I'm thinking

711
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: to myself, like, man, I just I'm not saying there's

712
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: no validity to that. I take issue with the everything

713
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: more than the romo things. Really well, No, I love

714
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: the hell out of Ron Learry. He was severely underrated.

715
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: It's the salary cap era. What do you want to do?

716
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna pay I mean what he got like

717
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: fifty million to go to Denver or so, I mean

718
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: what you can't pay all five? What are you supposed

719
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: to do? And maybe his cap hit though, is something

720
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: that they could absorb right now because they're just sitting

721
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: on it. Probably it's so it's so far under the

722
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: bridge at this point, and they've drafted a talented kid

723
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: to replace him, Like I can't dog them for that,

724
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Like you can't you get the way the NFL is built,

725
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: You gotta let guys go. There is no team sometimes

726
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: there is no team that can keep everybody. And that's

727
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: that's a whole other conversation. Next year, I think they're

728
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit more aggressive in free agency.

729
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: I think I think the cycle money, they're gonna have

730
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: some money they're not spending it as much here. We

731
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: keep thinking that all they got to spend it on

732
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I don't know if you necessarily have to

733
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: not at least next year. And you can just go

734
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: into that if you. Um. I don't think they necessarily

735
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: have to sign Zeke. They I wouldn't a question for

736
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: you guys. And I had a point, but go ahead

737
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: finish it that it was just second too long, Okay, boom, Wow,

738
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: it'll be better, Ezekiel Elliott, it'll be better. But the

739
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: thing about it is that's that's a question that the

740
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys have to figure out about Zeke, because yeah, you

741
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: can wait till five years and just say, well, let's

742
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: see what happens. But or you can start that clock

743
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: early and say all right, let's put five more on

744
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: and you know, like the Rams did with Gurley. I

745
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: think it want to be your running bank. I think

746
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: it would be smart to try to extend Zeke. This awesound.

747
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: But is he going to play ball with that because

748
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: he having guarantees anymore? He probably should maybe, But that

749
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: is a good point. At Levion Bell has proven that

750
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: you can bet on yourself and have it potent. I

751
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: don't think he's proven. I think he's I think he's

752
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: on the way proven. He has proven that players have

753
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: the capacity to do that. Like, if Zeke wants to

754
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: bet on himself, nobody can stop him. And that's so

755
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: I mean, is he willing to sign for less than

756
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: what he thinks he's worth right now just to get

757
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: it out of the way if he thinks he can

758
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: double that in two more years. I don't know, right

759
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: But the problem with that is we still don't know

760
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: how this is going to play out with Levon Bell. No,

761
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: we don't. But it could be a situation where if

762
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers wanted to forget, like franchise him again

763
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: next year or get Levon Bell, then what I mean,

764
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: He's like, I want girly money and they're like no,

765
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, cool, then we're gonna play this

766
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: thing out. He could do that. But here's the reality

767
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: right now. I would actually with Zeke. I would be

768
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: willing to pay Zeke a fact contract because he's that

769
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: kind of running back. The problem with the second contract

770
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: for most running backs is that they get to an

771
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: age where when you're giving him a second contract, part

772
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: of that's going to be after they get past that

773
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: magical number where running backs seem to fall off. And

774
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: so for me, if I'm doing it a little bit earlier,

775
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: I can still bet on the fact that if he's

776
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: a great running back, I will get great production throughout

777
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: his contract, and then I won't do a third contract.

778
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: I reserve the right to change my mind because it's

779
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: only September. But as we sit right now, I would

780
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: like to try to get something done with Zeke this offseason,

781
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: and I would very much like to get DeMarcus Lawrence

782
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: locked up this offseason. Then that's how money. It's a

783
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: healthy chunk of your cap right there, but it's on

784
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: worthwhile pieces in my opinion. And don't forget what you're

785
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: paying right now for just one year with Tank, you

786
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: would cut that because he would only make a small

787
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: fraction of that against your cap every year. So I

788
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: would still would have some money. You could still have

789
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: room to do some shopping even after those two deals.

790
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: No doubt about it, No doubt about it. Speaking of Zeke,

791
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: I did oh, actually, let's go to your pain. What

792
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: got It's not a point, it's a question, Okay, give

793
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: me a question. Well, I didn't get to watch Tony

794
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: Romo since the beginning of his career. I got to

795
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: start watching him towards the end, and I was just wondering,

796
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, what was the main problem with the Cowboys

797
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: of them not being able to get to that next

798
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: level as far as the offense goes. Honestly, and Nick

799
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: can give his opinion, but I think it was just

800
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: they were circumstances. I don't think that Tony necessarily was

801
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: the problem. I'll get I'll take you back to that

802
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: Giant game, and it was a playoff game against the

803
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: Giant c year that they were in that they got

804
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: it was seven. Um. I don't I don't think that

805
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: game was his fault. I think the offensive line failed

806
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: him that game. That defensive front for the Giants was

807
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: all over him, and they they made it very tough.

808
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, that defensive front they went

809
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: on to win the Super Bowl, but they went through him.

810
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: I think they played the Packers and Aaron Rodgers that year.

811
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: I want to say it was Aaron Rodgers at that point,

812
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: but they went through the Packers um and then beat

813
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: them up and then beat Tom Brady and the Patriots.

814
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: That that front was just really good and that was

815
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: the reason why the Cowboys was I don't think it

816
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: was was Tony's fault, yeah, So I think it was

817
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: just circumstances. It was just bad circumstances in particular games.

818
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: That was the reason the Cowboys didn't go farther. Because

819
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: I've I've seen several quarterbacks coming here. I've seen changes

820
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: on the team, and obviously as far as quarterback goes,

821
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: no one great, no one like big name or anything

822
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: like that. But the changes that I've seen, at the

823
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: end of the at the end of the day, the

824
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: results are still the same. So I'm wondering, it's this

825
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: a player thing or now we start talking and I

826
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: know people all over Twitter start talking about Jason Garrett

827
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: and all that, But I was just trying to get

828
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: to that were how much can your talent do for

829
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: you if on the other hand, it's not really working out.

830
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: So I was wondering as far as when Tony was here,

831
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: how was the play calling, I mean, was that a

832
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: theme happening back then? I'm well, the joke is always

833
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: that which I was only here for the end of

834
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: Romo's career too, in I mean, considering his ten year career,

835
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: I was here for three of his seasons as a starter.

836
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: The joke was that Romo audible, that of everything they

837
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: called for him anyway, right, I mean her play he

838
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: was your play caller in your car. I mean Tony

839
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: Romo especially was pretty good at it. Actually, from like

840
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: from twenty at least, I would say from twenty ten

841
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: until he retired, Romo was that type of quarterback who

842
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: could mask a lot of your deficiencies, which is what

843
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: Dak is not right now. I mean, there's no way

844
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: around that there was this, you know, I'll full disclosure.

845
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: I think Cowboys fans, they're fiercely defensive of Tony Romo

846
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: to a point that I can't go that far like

847
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: he did. He made a lot of mistakes in his career,

848
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Speaker 1: but in a in that one stretch, there was not

849
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: a lot of talent on this team. And I do

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00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: agree with the assessment that some of those teams from

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00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: twenty ten to thirteen or probably more like four or

852
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: five win teams as opposed to eight win teams. I

853
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: do think that's true. So you're talking about a quarterback

854
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: who can single handedly account for four or five extra wins,

855
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: you know. So funny to me and Nick might remember

856
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: this though that was It's so funny to me now

857
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: that there's so many fans out there that are fiercely

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00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: loyal of loyal to Tony Romo. I don't know what

859
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: you were, because back in the day, I swear every Monday,

860
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: it was always somebody man Tony Romo just he just

861
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: can't do it. I don't think Tony Romo can do it.

862
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: He can't get them where they need to go. I

863
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: don't think Tony. And now it's like everybody's just like, man,

864
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: I wish we had Tony back. I wish. It's so

865
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: funny how fans just kind of jumped from one to

866
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: the other, which and maybe it's different fans. Maybe everybody

867
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: just vocalizes whatever they're feeling at the moment, where every

868
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: million fans that said that though, there's a million people

869
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: screaming into their whatever they're listening on right now, they're

870
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: just like, I loved him from the beginning. Like it's

871
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: whether they did or didn't. But a lot of them

872
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: did though too that they did, Stafford, Philip Rivers and

873
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. That's why I don't ever really give them

874
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: the respect that they deserve. For that reason, probably because

875
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: those guys did everything that Tony did and they were

876
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: drafted number one, number three, number two, whatever overall and

877
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford, all these guys, and I don't I was

878
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: never in that in that city. But there's no way

879
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: they took the grief that Romo took. And it's fine.

880
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: Once you get to a starting quarterback, that's that's fine.

881
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: You're you're there and it's your job to be, you know,

882
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: the guy that takes you to the playoffs. But the

883
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: thing about it is is that for some reason, you know,

884
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: Romos has an unbelievable story to get where he is,

885
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: and yet it's always it was never good enough. It

886
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: was absolutely never good enough. And that's that's the thing

887
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: that always bothered me. I don't think Stafford gets that

888
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: he's the number one pick in the draft. What's he done?

889
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he gets that he's not

890
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a running record in the end of Yeah,

891
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: I think I think he takes I don't know. If

892
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: you went just if you went to Detroit, I think

893
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: you would. Is Matt Stafford a bust? No? I don't

894
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: think so. No, he's not a bust? What is he

895
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: he is a He's a good quarterback. I do think

896
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: he's a good quarterback. He is a good quarterback who

897
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: has not lived up to the expectation of a number one.

898
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: And I'm okay, I understand that he's ill. I'll tell

899
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: you like this right now, if he was a free agent,

900
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: how many teams are jumping in to say I will

901
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: take him and pay him big money? Matts that are

902
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: putting the Cowboys? Probably Sam Bradford is or should uh

903
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford's Yes, he's on a different he's on his

904
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: fourth team. How many full seasons as he played? But luck,

905
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: it's too soon to say, it's too I mean those

906
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: first years he gotten he was playing, but the first

907
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: few years in the league he was playing of his

908
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: it's too. It's too soon to say because Albert Griffin

909
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: a bust. Yes, yeah, it was out of his mind first. No,

910
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: not like not like Luck. Not like Luck. I don't

911
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: think you can compare the all the beginning of cad

912
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: like three great years and took his team to an AFC. No,

913
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: he was a he was a quarterback that we were

914
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: all saying, he's gonna be one of those guys going

915
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: to Hall of Fame one day, Like that's how good

916
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: his start was, I guarantee. I mean, in an alternate

917
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: universe where Stafford's available, people would jump to put him

918
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: on this team, which he can't be a bust if

919
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: that's true, I know. But the point was about was

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00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: about Tony's Tony. It's always been been you out question

921
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: has always been, in my opinion, treated unfairly for that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe so maybe so. All Right, we're gonna sad you guys.

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Speaker 1: You want us for back tomorrow, We're gonna give you

924
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Speaker 1: guys the final on what's gonna happen this weekend Cowboys

925
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: versus Lions. Until then for Nick Even, Dave helm and Ambergarcia.

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Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on

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