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Speaker 3: I guess that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Now, Welcome to day three of our DNC coverage. We

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Speaker 2: are live from Chicago. Before you we get to who

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Speaker 2: our wonderful guest is here, let's get into a little

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, I'm actually listening.

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Speaker 2: Watching myself just got caught, got absolutely caught here on stream.

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Speaker 2: We've all been holding down the fort and we're having

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Speaker 2: a great time. But with that, why don't we introduce

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Speaker 2: our guest. This is Parker Short. So Parker, tell us

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Speaker 2: a little bit about who you are before we remind

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Speaker 4: Well, hey is Parker Short. I'm the chairman of the

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Speaker 5: I resent.

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Speaker 4: It's just east of Atlanta, so it's most of the

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Speaker 4: cab County. Bits of rocktailing. Whenette they just keep redrawing

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Speaker 4: our linek Johnson, Nation's leading advocate for court for but

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Speaker 4: it's an important area.

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 4: It's a super important area, you know. I like to

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Speaker 4: Decab is just about the most democratic county in Georgia.

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Speaker 4: I was born and raised there, up in North to Cab,

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Speaker 2: So it is Decab.

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Speaker 4: It is a decal here, we say to Cab. I

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Speaker 4: hear it in Illinois. Somebody said to Cob. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: but no. I when I was growing up, you know,

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Speaker 4: state rap, Republican state senator, Republican congressman. And then I

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Speaker 4: worked for John also Off twenty fifteen campaign or twenty

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Speaker 4: And now there are no more Republicans in North to Cab.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you scared them away, Yeah you scared Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you might have scared them away with some

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Speaker 2: we're just gonna have to introduce you to that. Here,

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Speaker 2: my friend Mac, producer Mac, can we can we keep

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Speaker 2: Emily was very excited when you got a DM from you, uh, Prker, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was rare.

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Speaker 2: The first time a male income DM to Emily actually

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Speaker 2: resulted in some except this is Parker, you guys, so.

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Speaker 5: What what song is this? What is it like.

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Speaker 3: In the arena?

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Speaker 2: That is so that was how that was so high.

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Speaker 4: That was when Kamala came to Atlanta for her first

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Speaker 4: And then we had Mega the Stallion and then they

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Speaker 2: You were pumped up, all right. So Parker, young guy

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Speaker 3: Yea Trump.

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Speaker 7: So let's le let's put Parker in context too. You

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Speaker 7: were telling us earlier that your journey was what Bernie

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Speaker 4: Well, I like to consider myself. I like to consider myself,

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Speaker 4: you know, a progressive, whatever that word may mean. I

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Speaker 4: tell my friends to watch it on My favorite news

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Speaker 4: is the PBS News Hour. I'm breaking points. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I definitely I'm a Union Democrat. I'm a Southern Democrat.

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Speaker 4: But you know I voted for Bernie in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Sure you know, So you know I definitely consider myself

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Speaker 2: Okay, So tell us then about what it was like

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Speaker 2: like still the president, what was it like? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: So so what was it like? What was it like

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Speaker 2: How were you guys feeling? And then talk to us

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So I'll just start with the debate. Look,

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Speaker 4: I got invited to the Georgia Democrat debate party.

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Speaker 4: I was, you know, not not as a slight. I

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Speaker 4: I love and respect Joe Biden. He has been a

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Speaker 4: no way I was voting for Donald Trump. But you know,

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Speaker 4: after that debate, I'm like, Okay, what's going to happen?

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Speaker 4: You know, because I was a delegate and we were

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Speaker 4: have been very frank with you. You know, I would

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Speaker 3: Interesting, yeah, we I ask a question on that because

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Speaker 3: I've been reading some conservative media this morning, even but

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Speaker 3: It's a sugar hide. During the week of the convention,

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Speaker 3: it sounds to me like what you're saying Parker is.

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Speaker 3: And this has been my impression just walking through the

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what I will say, like, as a

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Speaker 4: the Democratic Party is just about the most far left

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Speaker 4: I love Stacy Abrams, but too many folks came from

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Speaker 4: And you know, I organized my high school Democrats club

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Speaker 4: like are you out there, are you doing the work?

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Speaker 4: Are you organized? And look, we're making the difference. And

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Speaker 4: I will just say I think the most important thing

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Speaker 4: and when you get engaged with those elections. We've got

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Speaker 4: One of my best friends is twenty three. He's a

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Speaker 2: So Parker, I want to ask you, because you've got

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Speaker 4: There are talk to me about thousand voters in the

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Speaker 4: That is crazy, are they Yeah, they're the wine moms

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Speaker 2: I get my insider trading.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, especially well, I think this is the perfect

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Speaker 8: Okay, probably, uh, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just wild Soger is looking for a question for

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Speaker 5: It's real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you tell us is part of that just

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Speaker 4: Harris I don't think it's just that. As I said,

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Speaker 4: I think Kamala has made every single right decision since

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Speaker 7: So one question, how do we ask questions? But yeah,

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Speaker 2: you get young people excited about politics? Not everybody is

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Speaker 2: a nerd like you knock indoors. That's no knock, by

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Speaker 3: Because I just like you.

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Speaker 4: I'm a very proud nerd. I worked hard with my

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Speaker 4: everybody has that lived experience of like knowing what the

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Speaker 4: I know, everybody drives around in their city and see

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Speaker 4: saying is my grandpa said this on his deathbed. The

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Speaker 4: And I look around government and I see too much

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Speaker 4: want to see change, if you want things to be better,

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Speaker 4: you can affect that change. I know a twenty three

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Speaker 7: Let me just let me just back that point up.

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Speaker 7: I was raised by a single mom on SSDI, which

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Speaker 7: it was quite visible exactly you could. You could see, Okay,

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Speaker 7: the government has done a thing, and our life is

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Speaker 7: a little worse. Government does the thing again. Your life's

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Speaker 7: better for a couple of weeks. You got the neutral

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Speaker 7: grain bars like the good ones. Yeah, the name brand all.

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Speaker 2: Right, now that we've got our sssh Yeah.

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Speaker 7: But you're right. It connects you. It connects you to

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Speaker 7: the value of government. I agree.

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Speaker 2: Any last any last words, Parker, Where can people find you?

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Speaker 4: So look, y'all can find me on Instagram at Parker

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Speaker 4: out Short. I don't really want to be an influencer.

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Speaker 4: I don't really want to do this.

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Speaker 3: Yet, you are.

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Speaker 5: I just want to be forty.

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Speaker 4: I want to I want to keep pushing Georgia forward.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of progress to be made our state

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Speaker 4: When Brian Kemp got elected governor, he changed the standards

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Speaker 4: don't get me started on Brian Camp. All right, but no,

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Speaker 4: thank y'all for having me go to the Young Democrat

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Speaker 4: So I hope to see all y'all college students there

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Speaker 7: Ye are you going.

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Speaker 2: To be dancing?

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Speaker 4: Anything to get the young people can make a change

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Speaker 7: Can we Matt? Can we get the video up there again?

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Speaker 2: One last video? Remind me last, just your reminder. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I was having a good time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're happy for you.

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Speaker 3: Crystal. We're so excited about this interview. Crystal so said

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Speaker 2: She loved these Yes she she Crystal sends her best.

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Speaker 2: She's stuck in the airport and we feel bad. All right, Parker,

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Speaker 3: My friends so much regularly for shopping by.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was really a lot of fun. I enjoyed it great. Okay,

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Speaker 2: That is exactly when the Tweezer repeat, all right, see

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Speaker 2: you dude, thank you, Yeah, take a picture, all right,

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Speaker 2: I love it, all right.

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Speaker 3: Parker wanted to help, but I hate it.

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Speaker 2: You hate to say. I cannot help it. Younger, he's

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Speaker 3: Parker wanted to. Parker wanted to say this on air.

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Speaker 2: the read that I'm.

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Speaker 7: Just gonna let it. Griffin's so confident that you will

440
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Speaker 7: forget to cancer. That's or you will just love it.

441
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Speaker 7: So much to be like, you know what, I'm keeping that.

442
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Speaker 5: Okay, taste all, But we'll start taking some logos questions here.

443
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Speaker 2: We got one for Ryan. For Ryan, do you think

444
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Speaker 2: that Kamala and Tim Wallace will keep will keep Lena Khan?

445
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Speaker 7: I think because of the policy agenda that they're rolling

446
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Speaker 7: out price gouging using antitrust, how like ridiculously hypocritical? Would

447
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 7: you have to look to get rid of Lena Khan?

448
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Speaker 7: Who would be the person who's responsible for executing the

449
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Speaker 7: first policy that you rolled out? Yeah, but Reid Hoffman

450
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Speaker 7: wall Street has been there. People and wall Street are

451
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Speaker 7: so mad at Reid Hoffman elevating this to it you

452
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Speaker 7: could say it.

453
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Speaker 2: But also, did I not see the AMX chairman Ken

454
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Speaker 2: Channel up on the stage last night like the strangest

455
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Speaker 2: weird primetime speech producer? Mac? You agree, put yourself on

456
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Speaker 2: the camera. Mac, put yourself up on the cam. You

457
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 2: and I were watching and we're like, what is this

458
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Speaker 2: dude doing here? The guys he was? That was Ken Mac?

459
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Speaker 2: You explained, You explained, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Loved the speech.

461
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Speaker 2: Yeah, inspiring.

462
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I felt motivated more than ever to support Kamala

463
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Speaker 9: Waltz ticket.

464
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Speaker 2: Right, I just watching a two hundred millionaire AMEX chairman,

465
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Speaker 2: former MX chairman talk about why Kamala is great for business,

466
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Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, this is a little bit

467
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Speaker 2: of a preview of some of the things that were

468
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Speaker 2: intentioned yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Let's see some change. Pritzker.

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Speaker 2: Oh, here's a good question from Carlos sand Sager. Did

471
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Speaker 2: Phil email you he probably wears clip ons? Okay, I

472
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: hate to say it, guys, Phil absolutely mogged the ship out.

473
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 2: So Phil not only is people, okay, so just for

474
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Speaker 2: people who understand. So yesterday Phil challenged me and saying,

475
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Speaker 2: why don't you re tie different tynts? And I was like, well, Phil,

476
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Speaker 2: I was like, I bet you don't even know what

477
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Speaker 2: you're doing. I actually know a tie four sepper one.

478
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Speaker 2: This guy sent me this email with some of the

479
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Speaker 2: most intricate ty notts that I have ever seen, including

480
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Speaker 2: from his wedding, which were incredible. I got to pull

481
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Speaker 2: this up. It was unreal, Like this, dude, look at

482
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Speaker 2: look at this.

483
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Speaker 3: This this is insane. Yeah, I wish I could.

484
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna. I don't want to dox him and

485
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Speaker 2: like put his face out there. But Phil, Phil knows

486
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Speaker 2: what he's doing.

487
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Speaker 7: Right again.

488
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Speaker 2: Bill has got serious tie games. So Phil absolutely mogged

489
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Speaker 2: me and thank you Phil.

490
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Speaker 3: Yeah, massive l for me. You were so confident I was.

491
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, nine out of ten trolls on the internet,

492
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Speaker 2: like nine point five out of ten on the internet.

493
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Speaker 2: It's like some you know, basement dweller. But no, Phil,

494
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Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing, all right, So shout out

495
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Speaker 2: to Phil. Okay, last question here for this section. Do

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Speaker 2: you think third party officials drop out? I want RFK,

497
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Speaker 2: but maybe in another position. What do you think? Emily?

498
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Speaker 2: A lot of controversy about the RFK thing. We talked

499
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Speaker 2: about it yesterday. I called Shanahan. Some RFK people are

500
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Speaker 2: really upset. Some people are supportive of the move. They're like, hey,

501
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Speaker 2: screw the Democrats. They tried to get him out of

502
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Speaker 2: the race.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, we talked about this yesterday

504
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Speaker 3: and we briefly touched on this, but there's no way

505
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Speaker 3: that our Robert F. Kennedy Junior is getting confirmed by

506
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Speaker 3: the Senate. I mean, it's whether it's Trump or Harris,

507
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Speaker 3: which it wouldn't be Harris, So the likeliest case is

508
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Speaker 3: that it would be a Trump administration. You cannot get

509
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Speaker 3: RFK Junior confirmed by the Senate for any position, and

510
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Speaker 3: Ryan suggested, well, he could be a bizarre not a

511
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Speaker 3: cabinet level official. I could potentially see that happening. They

512
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Speaker 3: seem to be making a lot of overtures behind the scenes,

513
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Speaker 3: even though they're not admitting to it in front of

514
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Speaker 3: the scenes. But then that's another question as to whether

515
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Speaker 3: he wants to keep his powder dry to potentially run

516
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Speaker 3: against Trump again. Because we had that conversation yesterday about

517
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Speaker 3: how being against Trump was absolutely fundamental central to RFK

518
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Speaker 3: Junior's appeal. He had to be against Trump, and he

519
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: had to be against Biden. Now he has to be

520
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Speaker 3: against Trump and he has to be against Harris. So

521
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Speaker 3: if you then go into a Trump administration, do you

522
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Speaker 3: ruin your ability to have another successful third party bid?

523
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Speaker 10: Right?

524
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Speaker 7: Because you think, Yeah, because Vivek took the I'm Vivike, sorry,

525
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Speaker 7: Vivic took the I'm running to support Trump as far

526
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Speaker 7: as you could go. Yeah, because and even even Trump

527
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Speaker 7: started making fun of him for it, saying like, you're

528
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Speaker 7: running against me, How is that supporting me? I don't

529
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Speaker 7: I don't understand these words that you are saying, because

530
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Speaker 7: it's in conflict with what you are actually doing. But

531
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Speaker 7: it worked for him. He'll probably get a cabin administration

532
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Speaker 7: or something. He'll get something, Yeah, he definitely will, or

533
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Speaker 7: he'll get out of Ohio, I mean run or a.

534
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Speaker 2: Couple of minds like this. To be honest, I do

535
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Speaker 2: think it is a bit of a betrayal from R

536
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Speaker 2: because the campaign was explicitly about the double hater voter,

537
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Speaker 2: the RFK junior. Justification people I've seen is like, well,

538
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Speaker 2: the Democrats like did everything they could to keep him

539
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Speaker 2: out of the race. And it's like, yeah, that's definitely true.

540
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Speaker 2: It's true. I mean they literally tried to sue and

541
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Speaker 2: get him off of the ballot, absolutely empirically. But that

542
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean you also side with the person who you

543
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Speaker 2: said would be a threat to democracy. You know who

544
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Speaker 2: you said that. I never team up with who.

545
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Speaker 3: And who you said was the swamp.

546
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Speaker 2: More importantly is that he has such an opportunity. Is like,

547
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Speaker 2: as Nicole clearly lays out, when you hit five percent threshold,

548
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 2: you get public funds, ballot access, you create a movement

549
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Speaker 2: around that. If we think back to John F. Kennedy

550
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Speaker 2: and the best of the Kennedy family, what they were

551
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Speaker 2: able to do, it was to actually reform an entire

552
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Speaker 2: new Democratic Party, create a new coalition, and effectively create

553
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Speaker 2: the party in their own image, even taking over with

554
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Speaker 2: the legacy of Lynnon B. Johnson and effectively running the

555
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Speaker 2: party from nineteen sixty up until really nineteen seventies. Right,

556
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Speaker 2: if we can think about all the people that were

557
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Speaker 2: within them, that was the project that I thought he

558
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Speaker 2: was trying to embark on. Whereas now if he does

559
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Speaker 2: drop out and he endorses Trump, it's very difficult to

560
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Speaker 2: even validate yourself, Ryan with any of those crossover Democratic

561
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Speaker 2: voters that they previously could have had, because they're going

562
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Speaker 2: to be like, no, you were just a spoiler against

563
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Whether that's true or not. I don't think

564
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Speaker 2: that that does the third party movement any like. It

565
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: doesn't make it look good. It just makes it look

566
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Speaker 2: as bargaining chips. And hey, look, I understand how the

567
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Speaker 2: world works. I'm a cynical guy. I totally understand that. Said,

568
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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's a good look overall, And

569
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Speaker 2: knowing how the Trump world and all that works, why

570
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Speaker 2: would you believe anything he promises you? You know, it's

571
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Speaker 2: not even You're never going to get appointed to anything

572
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Speaker 2: of any consequence. If you work for Trump, by the way,

573
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Speaker 2: as in the executive branch, you get fire your ass

574
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Speaker 2: anytime he wants, So it's not all that easy. And

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Speaker 2: you know he's won. Rfk's won what leaked phone call

576
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Speaker 2: away from just getting fired for no reason. So then

577
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Speaker 2: you kind of gave up everything for you kind of

578
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Speaker 2: gave up everything without getting anything back. That's just my opinion, right, And.

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Speaker 7: To have rfk's vice presidential nominee out there saying we

580
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Speaker 7: think we're taking votes away from Trump. We think that's

581
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Speaker 7: a bad thing, and we're worried that we will harm

582
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Speaker 7: Trump's chances of becoming president just completely changes everything that

583
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Speaker 7: everybody thought was happening in that race.

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Speaker 2: Right, rights of the kid. That's not why people supported RFK.

585
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Speaker 2: It's one at least in my opinion.

586
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Speaker 3: No, you're right, and it's one of Trump's biggest vulnerabilities

587
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: is what rf K Junior was tapping into. And it

588
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 3: was kind of beautiful to behold at first, right that

589
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Speaker 3: he was Donald Trump taps what Rex Tillerson to be

590
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Speaker 3: your Secretary of State. You want to drain the swamp,

591
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Speaker 3: and you bring in the CEO of Exxon Mobile like

592
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Speaker 3: exactly Trump has tons of those problems. Ryan has reported

593
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Speaker 3: on things that rf K Junior should be talking about,

594
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Speaker 3: like Farah controversies and other like genuine financial conflicts Jared Kushner.

595
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Speaker 3: These are all ripe for hitting someone who claims to

596
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Speaker 3: be draining the swamp on and rf K Junior has

597
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 3: seemed personally to actually want to have a good relationship

598
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Speaker 3: with Donald Trump, and not in the sense that like

599
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Speaker 3: I'm just you know, hitting you on policy, but we

600
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Speaker 3: can be friends, but in an actual like, well maybe

601
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Speaker 3: there's something we could do together.

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Speaker 7: And the bear thing just had to kill him, the

603
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 7: bear That was very crazy. It was that was just you're, like,

604
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Speaker 7: my god, what was going on with this dude? The

605
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Speaker 7: dog thing followed by the bear.

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Speaker 3: Thing, probably because I also think this is another important

607
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Speaker 3: point about RFK Junior is he felt like he was

608
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: putting a respectable like vaccine conversation aside. He is a Kennedy,

609
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Speaker 3: He looks like a Kennedy, he dresses like a Kennedy,

610
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: he has Kennedy vibes, Kennedy aesthetics, and so there's enormy

611
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Speaker 3: credibility that he brings to the third party conversation that

612
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: literally nobody else has in decade.

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Speaker 2: That's how I was decided about his cannasy. Yes, and

614
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: this is going to be the most impactful third party

615
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Speaker 2: candidate in a generation since, I mean the last time

616
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Speaker 2: a real third party candidate was the year I was

617
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: born nineteen ninety two, Ross Perot, So it's been almost

618
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Speaker 2: thirty yeah, thirty two years, and something like that happened.

619
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Speaker 2: He had a real chance, and I actually thought he

620
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Speaker 2: could have put us on the road to breaking, you know,

621
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Speaker 2: creating something new, let's say ten twenty years from now.

622
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Speaker 2: But if that's not what he's interested in, then frankly,

623
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: it's going to set us back quite a bit in

624
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Speaker 2: terms of anybody who really does want to see that happening.

625
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Speaker 2: But one of the main recaps is that we had

626
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Speaker 2: the DNC roll call. Then we had Kamala at the

627
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Speaker 2: the separate rally in Milwaukee. Actually, why don't we talk

628
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Speaker 2: about that, because I was actually pretty crazy kama Is

629
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: literally at a separate rally in Milwaukee. Why don't you

630
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Speaker 2: tell us about the significance of that, Emily, Because there

631
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Speaker 2: were some fifteen thousand people in the stadium there at

632
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Speaker 2: that time, absolutely astounding that they have some back to

633
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Speaker 2: back stadium shots of Chicago and Milwaukee. Milwaukee, Wisconsin, critical

634
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Speaker 2: battleground state.

635
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she was in the Feiser Forum, which is

636
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Speaker 3: exactly where the Republican National Convention was held just weeks ago,

637
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Speaker 3: and a very significant decision by the Harris campaign to

638
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Speaker 3: put her in the Pfiser Forum, which is where you

639
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: know when we were doing counterpoints and breaking points about

640
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: a month ago, I was reporting live from there. It's

641
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: pretty big, like you said, it holds fifteen thousand people.

642
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: Tim Walls alluded to that directly and said, you know,

643
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Speaker 3: we have lots more energy in here than the other

644
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: guy did. I bet the other guy's not going to

645
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: be happy to see this. But when you are able

646
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: to have energy in a city like Milwaukee, it's going

647
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: to be similar to having energy in a place like Philadelphi.

648
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be similar to having energy in a place

649
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: like what's another Detroit. These urban centers in the Blue

650
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: Wall states, you really need to have enthusiasm. You can't

651
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: just have sort of tolerance for the candidate. You need

652
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: to have enthusiasm for the candidate because these are states

653
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: where the margins in rural areas and suburbs are going

654
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Speaker 3: way further right than Democrats are comfortable with post Obama,

655
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Speaker 3: and so you have to balance that out with turnout.

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Speaker 3: And so Kamala Harris is making a big splash by

657
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Speaker 3: being at the Feisser Forum. With that level of enthusiasm

658
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Speaker 3: beaming into the DNC from there, it was a pretty

659
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Speaker 3: stunning even just like visually, it was pretty stunning.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, go ahead, right, we just linger on a funny

661
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Speaker 7: point here. On Monday night, we were told that Democrats

662
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Speaker 7: really desperately wanted to be able to have Joe Biden

663
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Speaker 7: in prime time, but they just couldn't get the logistics

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Speaker 7: and the coordination, just couldn't make it happen. It's a

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Speaker 7: real shame that he couldn't come out until like eleven

666
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Speaker 7: thirty or whatever, and then Tuesday night from two different cities.

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Speaker 7: They can meticulously coordinate the timing interesting huh of the

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Speaker 7: roll call and the walls and the Harris speeches, so

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Speaker 7: that it's all nicely rolled out collectively in prime time.

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Speaker 3: I think they really know, Okay, they really learned from.

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Speaker 7: Monday and by Tuesday they had it together.

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Speaker 2: At the same desk. You told me that you thought

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Speaker 2: that it wasn't intentional, No, I did okay, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Good goody to confuse us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true, that's true. I have to juggle out.

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Speaker 5: Of my head.

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Speaker 2: Guys in the desk, how are we looking over there? Okay,

678
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Speaker 2: we're going to take a couple of questions while we

679
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Speaker 2: figure out more some of the technical stuff. So as

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Speaker 2: a reminder, everybody in the Locals chat, go ahead and

681
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Speaker 2: get some of those questions in. Those are for our

682
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Speaker 2: premium subscribers as we are trying to get the audio

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Speaker 2: working so that we can try and show you guys

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Speaker 2: some of the stuff that we saw yesterday. Let's see

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Speaker 2: here for what we have got so far. All right, Locals, I.

686
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Speaker 3: Was gonna say, by the way, John Legend and Pink

687
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Speaker 3: are not performing at the dan Sea. We saw Don

688
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Speaker 3: Cheatle yesterday? We did.

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00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: I actually ran into Don Cheedle, literally like I bumped

690
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: into him and he is a lot shorter than I

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Speaker 2: thought he would be. I was like, really did Like

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Speaker 2: this is this is the iron Like this is Iron Man?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that was kind of interesting.

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Speaker 3: Well else, did we see Julia Louis Dreyfus.

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Speaker 2: That's well, we got you need to stick around Ryan

697
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: and Julia Louis Dreyfus got into a fight. That's all

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say. That's all I'm gonna say. We have

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Speaker 2: it on video. We have it on video.

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Speaker 7: We will know showing it it was.

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Speaker 3: It was fine.

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Speaker 2: Why are you screwing this up?

703
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Speaker 3: Also? I saw Busy Phillips this morning, So the celebs

704
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Speaker 3: are out. Okay, the celebs are out, which is very

705
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: different from the r n C, when when you everyone

706
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Speaker 3: sort of like peering the sea. Who gets to go

707
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Speaker 3: in the golf carts? And you know, it's it's both

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Speaker 3: basically like Lee.

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Speaker 2: Green, we saw Gavin Newsom yesterday walk right by.

710
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Speaker 3: So he's tall.

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Speaker 2: He's a lot taller than I thought he would be.

712
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: I knew he was tall, but he's a big boy.

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Speaker 3: We saw Hassan like basically hurdle a table.

714
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We saw Hassan like, knock a table

715
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Speaker 2: overhere he was he was like, hey, Ryan, So that

716
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Speaker 2: was funny. All right, let's get some of these questions.

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Speaker 2: We're going to tour here. Uh what do we see?

718
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Speaker 3: It's a lot glitter than the RNC. I'll just put

719
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Speaker 3: it that.

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Speaker 2: Any reactions to Trump being on Theovonne, Yeah, I here's

721
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Speaker 2: the problem guys, we've been so busy here that we

722
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Speaker 2: haven't been able to camp to watch it. I am excited.

723
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Speaker 2: The only clip I've seen is THEO educating Trump about

724
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: what it's like to be on coke. And Trump asked

725
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Speaker 2: and he's like, so you like it? Huh? He's like

726
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: you like the rush? And he's like, oh. Theo's like yeah, man,

727
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Speaker 2: you know.

728
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: He was like, it turns you into an owl.

729
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was good.

730
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Speaker 3: But what do you say?

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Speaker 2: The THEO was like, it's like being on your porch,

732
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: like shaking like this. So I do love Theovon, So

733
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Speaker 2: shout out to him and his producer, Nick, who is

734
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Speaker 2: also a fan of the show.

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Speaker 3: Dude, Oh, Theovan is great and they were doing a

736
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Speaker 3: really interesting Theovan is one of the few people who

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Speaker 3: has I think has enough respect for Donald Trump as

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Speaker 3: a human being. I'm not even talking about the politics,

739
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Speaker 3: but as a human being to ask him about how

740
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Speaker 3: his brother's death affected him, and it actually I think

741
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: elicited a lot more interesting perspective into who Donald Trump

742
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Speaker 3: is than just about like dozens and dozens and dozens

743
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: and dozens of corporate media interviews have not gotten that

744
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Speaker 3: useful of information out of Donald.

745
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Speaker 2: Here's a good question for you, a question to Sogrin Emily.

746
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Speaker 2: Can you define what you mean when you mentioned the

747
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: New Right. Emily is far more sophisticated and explaining this

748
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Speaker 2: than I am.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like you're like a godfather, and I know, well, yeah, yeah,

750
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Speaker 3: but you know what I'm talking about. In that sort

751
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Speaker 3: of after Donald Trump was elected, there was a group

752
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Speaker 3: of definitely younger people and some intellectuals and like conservative

753
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Speaker 3: academic spaces who said, let's rethink things. And there was

754
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Speaker 3: a lot of resistance to that among like con inc types.

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Speaker 3: And it's grat explain what that means. It's like the

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Speaker 3: professional industry of the conservative movement, so the collection of

757
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Speaker 3: nonprofits essentially, like you know, at the time it was

758
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Speaker 3: Heritage Foundation, and Heritage Foundation has sort of like gotten

759
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Speaker 3: on board with the quote unquote New Right project. But

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Speaker 3: the national conservatism movement sprang up after that. I remember

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Speaker 3: you gave me a copy of your Mazzoni's book in

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Speaker 3: like twenty seventeen. That's true, I did, what was I

763
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: got those virtues of nationalism? Yeah yeah, but like that

764
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: stuff was circulating, it was, it was great, and and

765
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Speaker 3: it congealed into stuff like American Compass and Kevin Roberts

766
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Speaker 3: version of the Heritage Foundation. And some of it's good,

767
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Speaker 3: some of it's bad, but it's it's definitely in flux.

768
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Speaker 3: It's very fluid. It's basically just people who are opposed

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Speaker 3: to the old Conservative movement, the old Republican Party. And

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Speaker 3: some of that is really solid. Some of that is

771
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Speaker 3: really questionable, like really questionable.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's see what else we have in the chat. Oh,

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Speaker 2: this is an interesting one from Tawad. Do you think

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Speaker 2: the convention including a panel on Palestinian rights will be

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Speaker 2: ignored or will it hurt or help? So? I don't

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Speaker 2: know if that panels be confirmed, we're gonna happen to this.

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Speaker 3: It did happen, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Was it on the main stage though, because that's.

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Speaker 7: No, But that's not how they do that. What they wanted,

780
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Speaker 7: was it? So this is how dorky and like ridiculous

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Speaker 7: kind of conventions are. But what they wanted was it

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Speaker 7: to be an official part of the d n C schedule,

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Speaker 7: which means it comes with the blessing of the party

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Speaker 7: as a tolerable thing to discuss. Uh, And it was

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Speaker 7: Andy Levin and uh, I think four Palestinian uh on

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Speaker 7: the Palestinian Americans on the panel, and so it did happen.

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Speaker 7: It was one of the most I think it was

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Speaker 7: probably the most widely attended panel of anything. Was Nobody

789
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Speaker 7: goes to these any of the rest of these panels

790
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Speaker 7: for the most part, unless unless it's like your job,

791
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Speaker 7: your paycheck depends on you sitting in there, that you're

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Speaker 7: going to be there. This one was. I wasn't there,

793
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Speaker 7: but this one was apparently packed and full of energy,

794
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Speaker 7: et cetera. So, but I'm sure everybody from the outside

795
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Speaker 7: is like, you're kidding me a panel, right, Like that's

796
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 7: that's what that's what you're fighting for here. And we

797
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 7: talked to the uncommitted delegates yesterday and I said, like, okay,

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Speaker 7: your your other demand here is that you want a

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Speaker 7: Palestinian American speaker from the stage. And they're pushing for

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Speaker 7: a particular doctor who's been working in Gaza for years

801
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Speaker 7: to get up on stage and be able to just

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Speaker 7: share what her life has been like inside Gaza. And

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Speaker 7: I said, okay, if you get that plus this panel,

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Speaker 7: does that mean that's it? Like what are you giving

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00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 7: in return? And they said no, like that's actually, that's

806
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 7: not where the quid pro quo is like the transaction

807
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 7: has to get all the way to like an arms embargo.

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Speaker 7: So at this so they they too understand that we're

809
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Speaker 7: just talking about a panel here and there, but also Palestinians,

810
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Speaker 7: Muslim Americans, Arab Americans in general within the Democratic Party

811
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 7: have spent so many years getting beaten down that to

812
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 7: be able to win a panel from their perspective, it's like, wow,

813
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 7: like we actually got something like it really should show

814
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 7: like how marginalized they are within the party that they're

815
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Speaker 7: this excited about that small of a victory.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, good point. We are still waiting a

817
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: little bit. We've got to wait for a technical person.

818
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: So we're going to continue to take questions here. Let's

819
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Speaker 2: see and can Emily explain why gambling is corrosive to

820
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: the soul? Oh that's a spicy one. Also, somebody sent

821
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Speaker 2: a picture to the Premium chat of remember that guy

822
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Speaker 2: who ran over to us at the DNC yesterday. He

823
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Speaker 2: is a premium subscriber and he took which one the books?

824
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Speaker 2: The guy with the beard, No, not the book, guy

825
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Speaker 2: with the beer. He rolled over. Let's see if this photo, Yeah,

826
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Speaker 2: this this is the photo, right, thanks, brother, so really

827
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Speaker 2: it was great to meet you. His name is Ivan.

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Speaker 2: All right, Emily explain the gambling comment, Well.

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Speaker 3: Gros of your bank account too, But yeah, your bank

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Speaker 3: I think it's predatory. I mean I feel like we've

831
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Speaker 3: my general perspective on this is we were actually talking

832
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Speaker 3: about this over lunch. Yes, yeah, I think it's like

833
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: there's a difference between gambling in a physical casino or

834
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Speaker 3: at a horse track or whatever and what happens on

835
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Speaker 3: your phone, which is primed to be like a penny

836
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Speaker 3: slot machine that's in your literally like that is the

837
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: design that they use and put in your pocket everywhere

838
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: you go. And so if you're if you're preying on

839
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Speaker 3: people's dopamine reactions.

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Speaker 2: Hold on a second, Emily, just go ahead, don't worry

841
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: about it. This is our technical liaison, Stephanie at Barstools.

842
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Speaker 2: She's entering your self.

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00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: So good.

844
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Speaker 2: Stephanie is incredible, by the way, So shout out again

845
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: to Barstool Sports, who is allowing us to use their studio,

846
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: the dog Walk Podcast. We love them. Go ahead and

847
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: subscribe if you can. Let's go ahead, and we're going

848
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: to turn now to recapping the DNC guys. So the

849
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: way that we're going to do this is we're going

850
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Speaker 2: to roll through a bunch of things just to give

851
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Speaker 2: everybody a taste of what it was like last night. Mac,

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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and start with the state roll call.

853
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: There was a lot of energy in the hall from everywhere.

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Speaker 2: California passed. Actually that didn't actually pass, by the way.

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Speaker 2: It's a tradition because the home state of the candidate

856
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Speaker 2: is the one who passes up until the actual moment

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Speaker 2: that they take the stage that they can put them

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Speaker 2: over the edge. Mac, give us a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a taste of what that DNC roll call was, because

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Speaker 2: there was a hell of a lot of energy that

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Speaker 2: was in the hall at that time.

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Speaker 3: Let's roll it.

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Speaker 11: So Democrats and independents, it's time for us to do

864
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 11: the right thing, and that is to elect Kamala Harris

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Speaker 11: as the next president of the United.

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Speaker 7: States of America.

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Speaker 11: California, we probably passed are four hundred and eighty two

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Speaker 11: votes for the next president, Pabla Harris.

869
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Speaker 2: All right, So that's what that was the little bit

870
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: of the roll call. We'll go to the next one,

871
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 2: I think, because that's actually quite interesting. This was little

872
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: John doing the call uh for Georgia. We just had

873
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: Parker in the studio, who is a Georgia devilgate. We

874
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: should dang, we should have asked him about this.

875
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 3: I talked to him about it before, did you. He

876
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: said it was like electric. He said they had a

877
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: party the night before, and Lafel Warnock was like on

878
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: like on a balcony.

879
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: What is the real John Georgia connection? Is he from

880
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: Georgia in Atlanta? Okay? All right, Matt, can we cueue

881
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: up a little John please? And let's go ahead and

882
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: take a listen. This was a big moment in the hall.

883
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 6: Georgia. How do you catch your vote?

884
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: Where?

885
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 11: Gentlemen?

886
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 5: We are here tonight?

887
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: Stop?

888
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 5: I say, turned out for what? Turn in there for copyright?

889
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

890
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: That was an incredible and that, I mean does highlight

891
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: something Emily's been trying to say. Here for people who

892
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: are doubting, here's the truth. The energy is big, it's

893
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: it's here. Emily. You were at the RNC you were

894
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: saying it's a little bit more somber there, obviously because

895
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: Trump got shot in the head. But this is Look,

896
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: there's a party atmosphere that we can't deny. And I'm

897
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: actually glad that we're here on the ground to be

898
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: able to see it, to feel it. I mean, we're

899
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: going to talk about how awful of the logistics have been.

900
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: So even though all of these pre credentialed delegates and

901
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: all these other people are waiting in hours long lines

902
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: of massive pain in the ass, there's all the problems,

903
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: they don't mind. They're just sitting there standing line. They're waiting,

904
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: and when they get in there, they're fired up.

905
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: I'm ready to go. Well, i'd say I think two

906
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: things can be true. Yeah, this is not two thousand

907
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: and eight. Yeah, but this is also very real.

908
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: Well, it can't be the most exciting democratic campaign in

909
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: modern he it is not.

910
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: And Ryan, I'm curious what you think about this, because

911
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: you've actually been to these conventions. I don't think the

912
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: energy in the room is two thousand and eight esque.

913
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: I also, though, don't think it's fake, which the right

914
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 3: is saying.

915
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: And Ryan was at ow eight.

916
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 3: So it is perfect and actually has had a Hispanic

917
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: a poll of Hispanic voters that showed the enthusiasm gap

918
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: that existed before Harris took over the top of the

919
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: ticket had been closed with just Hispanic voters like entirely

920
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 3: closed between Trump and Harris in terms of Hispanic voter

921
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 3: enthusiasm among Democrats versus Hispanic Republican voters. So obviously even

922
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: the polling is picking up on just subjectively qualitatively what

923
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: we've noticed. So two things can be true. What do

924
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: you think about that? It's not O eight but it

925
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: is lit.

926
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 7: Two thousand and eight was indeed electric. It had you know,

927
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 7: so it had non cringe celebrities who were like, everybody

928
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 7: was fired up. Everybody's believing like we might actually like

929
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 7: prove that we're not the racist country that we thought

930
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 7: we were going to buy electing Barack Obama as president.

931
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 7: He gave his acceptance speech in the like Denver Football Stadium,

932
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 7: like just sixty seventy thousand people or more, just blowing.

933
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 7: There was no roof, just just crushing it. But what

934
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 7: people forget is that two thousand and eight also had

935
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 7: a very divisive primary against Hillary Clinton, and all over

936
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 7: Denver and throughout the convention were these groups of mostly

937
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 7: women who were called pumas.

938
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: Oh I remember which, Yeah, party unity, my ass, Party unity,

939
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: my ass.

940
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

941
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 7: They were marching through Denver constantly and they were pissed off.

942
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 7: And so there is actual party unity now like you

943
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 7: saw AOC and Bernie and like that was big, Like

944
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 7: everybody is together basically with the party established.

945
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: Let's show a little bit of that. Hey, can we

946
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: go ahead and put the next one up there? Mac,

947
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: This is Kamala. We talked about this a little bit earlier,

948
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: but to me, it was very extraordinary and I want

949
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: to make sure whenever we do YouTube clips that people

950
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: can see this. We can see some of this Mac,

951
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: which is that at the same time that the United

952
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: Center was filled in Chicago, Kamala Harris is in Milwaukee

953
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand people in the same where they had the

954
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: RNC and then accepts the Democratic Party nomination there from

955
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: the stage. We have that queued up. Okay, let's go

956
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: ahead and play a little bit of it for the people.

957
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 12: I'm all right too, you're blowing us comic pull, prove.

958
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: Me running dog in truth? What I'm just good.

959
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 6: National Convention.

960
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 5: Well, they just completed their role call.

961
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 12: And they have nominated Coach Walls and me to be

962
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 12: the next Vice president and President of the United States

963
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 12: of America.

964
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: So there you go.

965
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: You could see it. Uh, you could see her accept

966
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 2: that nomination. Let's go to the next one, and we're

967
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: gonna give people some of the highlights of the other speeches.

968
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: Immediately after that, we kind of moved into prime. You

969
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: have a quick comment, does an absolute flex?

970
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, right inside the convention Swing state, blue Wall state.

971
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: She beams in this massive crowd, excited crowds.

972
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 5: The comparison clip between the rn C and the DNC if.

973
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: We do we oh, yeah, that's right.

974
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: Why don't we go ahead and put that up there

975
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: on the screen, just to put are some of the

976
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: RNC energy versus the d n C energy. You can see.

977
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: I mean, frankly, this is probably more reflective of who

978
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: gets to be the average delegate to the r n C.

979
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: You've just basically got a bunch of boomers and old

980
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: people at the r n C versus well, let's look,

981
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: we had Parker here, a.

982
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 3: Lot of Parkers.

983
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a lot of Parkers at.

984
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: The at the r n C.

985
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: If we're being honest, they're definitely there is YouTubers and streamers. Yeah,

986
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: like all those books, but they're not actually the delegates.

987
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: So go ahead and roll that for us.

988
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 7: Mac.

989
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: This is courtesy of Morning Joe. I guess I have

990
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: to say that.

991
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 13: Commands with the roll, with a call of the roll

992
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 13: of the states delegates?

993
00:45:51,920 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 12: Are you ready, forty delegates.

994
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 13: Dude, you gotta do it, Georgia, fifty nine.

995
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: Delegates get the point. So that's that is some partisan hackery,

996
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: to be fair, because there was a ton of enthusiasm

997
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: from a lot of delegates at the RNC, and you

998
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: could probably go back and find clips of people wild

999
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 3: and not of the rn C. But the best description

1000
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: I would say is that the RNC is more like

1001
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: a political event, feels more like a political event, whereas

1002
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 3: the DNC feels more like a Hollywood event. It feels

1003
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: like it's a more entertainment event. And uh like the

1004
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: RNC had a feeling of heaviness because Trump had just

1005
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: been shot in the head, but also it had this

1006
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 3: kind of confidence because at that point it was Biden

1007
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: versus the guy who had just survived an assassination attempt.

1008
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 3: So people just felt really that there was a weight

1009
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: a gravity to it, and they felt really confident. And

1010
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: I think you see a lot of confidence with the Dems,

1011
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: which is why Kamla flexed and beamed him from Milwaukee.

1012
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: But it's also just like this total sugar rush. You

1013
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 3: know whether it lasts is the big question.

1014
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 7: What was shocking to me about the roll call is

1015
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 7: that Democrats did something new. Yeah like that, that's an

1016
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 7: innovation on the form of the convention. Yeah, well, I

1017
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 7: didn't know you could do something.

1018
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: Induced it for television.

1019
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: They wanted to. I mean, they got what they wanted,

1020
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: which is we're covering it. It's a media moment. It

1021
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: was actually produced in order to project energy and dare

1022
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: I say joy, That's a word that we heard a

1023
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: lot last night, and that was a key to basically

1024
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: all of the major speeches. Let's go now to Bernie Sanders.

1025
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: We have two separate clips that we can show. He

1026
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: was given a primetime speaking slot. He used it to

1027
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: really push some of his two thousand in sixteen energy.

1028
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: But I will say, just going into it, it was

1029
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: remarkable to me. I mean, twenty sixteen Bernie Sanders. This

1030
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: is a man who basically had the DNC steal the

1031
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 2: race away from him and rig the primary process, who

1032
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: has been at war with his entire life, then ascending

1033
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: to the main stage in primetime to endorse Kamala Harris.

1034
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: But he did it, I guess in his own way.

1035
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: He gave a nod to some of the ceasefire talk.

1036
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: Max got it loaded. Let's take a listen.

1037
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 7: We must and.

1038
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 14: This horrific war in Gaza, bring home the.

1039
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 15: Hostages and demand that immediac Saints file.

1040
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: All right, So there you go, demanding an immediate ceasefire.

1041
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 7: He also had a permanent whatever. Yeah, nobody wants to

1042
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 7: hear my nippicking. It's not permanent, it's just immediate, Like

1043
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 7: he won't like.

1044
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: What what we will do is we'll let you get

1045
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: some of your energy out of the protest block because

1046
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 2: I know how frustrated you are with the uncommitted movement

1047
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: now so far, let's get the next one up there.

1048
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: What I want to do is show everybody the contrast

1049
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: and truly the big tent that we've seen here at

1050
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: the DNC. Preceding Bernie Sanders is Kennis Chanalt. He's a

1051
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: one hundred millionaire former AMEX chairman who's like a Kamala

1052
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: is so great for business, and it's like in America

1053
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: is the best place to start a credit card company

1054
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: with legal usury.

1055
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: Then Bernie Sanders.

1056
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders takes the stage to attack billionaires, which is

1057
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: immediately then followed by JB. Pritzker, who starts bragging about

1058
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: being an actual billionaire in contrast to Trump. All right,

1059
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: so Mac, let's take the billionaire clip here from Bernie

1060
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: and then quickly will hot switch it to JB. Pritzker

1061
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: right afterwards, And my friends.

1062
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: At the very top of that to do lists.

1063
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 5: Is the need to get big.

1064
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 15: Money out about political process. Billionaires in both parties should

1065
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 15: not be able to buy elections, including primary elections.

1066
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: Got it?

1067
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: Okay, let's pull out it out all right, So billionaires

1068
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: should not be able to buy elections, including primary erections.

1069
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: Oh what did I say that?

1070
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 7: What was that? Perils?

1071
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: It's the live nude sign that's over. Yeah, that's that's

1072
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 2: My mind is going in different directions.

1073
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 8: Okay.

1074
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: So then immediately after that, what happens is that we

1075
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: have JB. Pritzker, the governor of the state that we're

1076
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: in right now, Illinois, who is also an call him

1077
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: an air a billionaire air is all right, So an

1078
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 2: heir to a billionaire fortune hasn't even made his own

1079
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: billionaire fortune, and then bragging about being a billionaire in

1080
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: contrast to Donald Trump. So Mac, let's roll it for

1081
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: the people.

1082
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 16: Donald Trump thinks that we should trust him on the

1083
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 16: economy because he claims to be very rich.

1084
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 5: But take it from.

1085
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 4: An actual billionaire.

1086
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 8: Trump is rich and only one thing.

1087
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: Stupidity there it is, so take it from an actual billionaire.

1088
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: And I gotta I gotta even give credit to a

1089
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: producer Mac and to producer Griffin, because we were all

1090
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 2: watching this meet together and he's like, I literally cannot

1091
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 2: believe that that just happened, right after Bernie Sanders smoke

1092
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: on a stage and attack a billionaire than having a

1093
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: billionaire governor who Okay, nobody becomes a billionaire governor just

1094
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: out of the goodness of their own heart and talent.

1095
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: Especially I, frankly, I don't get Pritzker energy. I don't

1096
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 2: think he's couldn't. I don't think he's really all that talented.

1097
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: He's hokey, and he's hokey.

1098
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 3: Is hell to me.

1099
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Speaker 7: Ryan, I generally like a b He's been an extremely

1100
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 7: progressive governor in Illinois. That was the worst, most ridiculous

1101
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 7: thing I've ever seen. Yeah, there is a a sect

1102
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 7: of democratic activists who have been making this argument against

1103
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 7: Trump that he's not a real billionaire, that these are

1104
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 7: the real billionaires for years now, and that I think

1105
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 7: that energy was channeled through Pritzker there and they loved

1106
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 7: seeing it. I think it's utterly tone deaf, absurd and

1107
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 7: to your you make a great point. Just like Trump

1108
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 7: he inherited, yeah, his money.

1109
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 3: You didn't even do any.

1110
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 7: It's like a hotel fortune.

1111
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 8: Right.

1112
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: He's using the DNC stage to squash billionaire beefs and

1113
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: to engage in billionaire beefing, which is.

1114
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: Truly, like, that's as bad as politics get, folks.

1115
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: Nobody wants it. Nobody wants it except for.

1116
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 2: The you know, but that's the problem. Let's be honest.

1117
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: There is a constituency that played there. There is a

1118
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty thousand a year income voter in.

1119
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: Peach Tree, George, it's the county.

1120
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: Just talking, Parker was just talking about who is like

1121
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: he's right, he's not even a real billionaire, just like

1122
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 2: our man GB take it billionaire. But that led to, frankly,

1123
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: you know, some of the nice moments I was saying here,

1124
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: I look, people know, I'm a cynical guy. I'm a

1125
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: sucker for the reluctant spouse, the spouse who does not

1126
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: even want to be on the stage. Uh, but who

1127
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: you know, they're like, Okay, I'm gonna do it for

1128
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: for her, for him, like and Romney. Remember that. It

1129
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: was very similar like people who they don't really want

1130
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 2: to be in the spotlight, but they're the that's right, yeah,

1131
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: there's but there's spouses have chosen to be in this lane.

1132
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: And Doug m hoff Uh, he certainly stole a lot

1133
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: of hearts in the audience. People were people were crying,

1134
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: and he wanted to humanize Kamala Harris yesterday, so he

1135
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 2: told the story of their first date. Why don't we

1136
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: go ahead, mac if we can and cueue this up,

1137
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 2: the story of the voicemail and of his uh, which

1138
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: he's has played every anniversary coincidentally, which is on Thursday.

1139
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take a listen.

1140
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 17: For generations, people have debated when to call the person

1141
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 17: you're being set up with, and never in history has

1142
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 17: anyone suggested eight thirty am. And yet that's when I dialed.

1143
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 17: I got Kamala's voicemail and I just started rambling, Hey,

1144
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 17: it's Doug. I'm on my way to an early meeting.

1145
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 3: Again, it's Dug.

1146
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 5: I remember, I was.

1147
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 17: Trying to grab the words out of the air and

1148
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 17: just put them back into my mouth, and for what

1149
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 17: seemed like far too.

1150
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 8: Many minutes, I hung up.

1151
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 17: By the way, Kamala saved that voicemail and she it

1152
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 17: makes me listen to it on every anniversary.

1153
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: All right, So you know he's not exactly the best

1154
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: speaker in the world, but Griffin compared it to Dad's

1155
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: at wedding. You're rooting for him. You just have to

1156
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: root for him, and it is sweet. He also, again,

1157
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: in terms of trying to humanize her, which frankly has

1158
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: been one of the bigger political vulnerabilities that she's had,

1159
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: tries to speak about her role in his own family life.

1160
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and queue up the next part there,

1161
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: Mac and we will take a listen.

1162
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 5: Kamala is a joyful warrior.

1163
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 17: It's doing for her country what she has always done for.

1164
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 8: The people that she loves.

1165
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 17: Her passion will benefit all of us when she's our president.

1166
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 17: And here's the thing about joyful warriors. There are still warriors,

1167
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 17: and Kamala is as tough as it comes. Just ask

1168
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 17: the criminals, the global gangsters, and the witnesses before the

1169
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 17: Senate Judiciary Committee. She never runs from a fight, and

1170
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 17: she knows the best way to deal with a coward

1171
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 17: is to take him head on, because we all know

1172
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 17: cowards are weak and Kamala Harris can smell weakness. She

1173
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 17: doesn't tolerate any bs.

1174
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 8: You've all seen that look, and you.

1175
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 5: Know that look I'm talking about.

1176
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 17: That look is not just the meme. It reflects our

1177
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 17: true belief in honest and directly.

1178
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: So there you go. Look, I'm again this is the

1179
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: job of the spouse at the convention, just as those kids.

1180
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, and again like nobody cares about me what I

1181
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 7: have to say about this at this point because it's

1182
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 7: all joy and it's et cetera. But you can also

1183
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 7: ask the people wrongfully convicted that have been that can

1184
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 7: basically demonstrate that they were innocent and yet are still

1185
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 7: behind ours.

1186
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: Justice impacted people, No I'm talking.

1187
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 7: Well, yes, justice, justice impacted innocent people who Kamala Harris

1188
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 7: kept in prison with paperwork arguments.

1189
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 2: But that's very inconvenient to weed truancy.

1190
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 7: Yes, I mean it's also inconvenient from the Trumps. I

1191
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 7: they don't know quite how to handle it because she's

1192
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 7: soft on crime or she's too tough on crime. But

1193
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 7: she there are plenty of innocent people that are obviously

1194
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 7: innocent that that Harris worked to keep behind bars, not

1195
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 7: saying that she thinks they're guilty. But you didn't file

1196
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 7: your uh your lousy attorney filing soon enough or you

1197
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 7: didn't do you know, you you missed this deadline, so

1198
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 7: therefore you should rotten in prison. So yeah, she joyfully

1199
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 7: fights those people.

1200
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: So Sucker's right, though, like em Hooff understood the assignment. Yeah,

1201
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 3: that was it doesn't like the job. It might work

1202
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: on Sager and Crystal, which it seemed to it doesn't

1203
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: really do it for me, but he did a good

1204
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: job of doing what.

1205
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: It's because you and I are online, Okay, you and

1206
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: I can separate both my analyst hat and then being

1207
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: the guy who also knows that this guy knocked up

1208
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: his nanny, which is gross, right yay, immediately following him

1209
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: corpor lawyer and all that. But look, people don't want

1210
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: to hear that. And also look, spouse, it's a fair

1211
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: game ish like et cetera. It does tell us a

1212
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: little bit about kind of like who these people are underneath.

1213
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: But I've also been around enough politicians like these are

1214
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: messy ass people, listen, screwed up their egomaniac accident. I'm

1215
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: not going to have normal They're not gonna have normal lives.

1216
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 6: No.

1217
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, by the way, has one of the highest

1218
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: rates of like one of the lowest rates of staff

1219
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 3: retention when she was in the Senate. She said the

1220
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: same thing happened when she was vice president. So when

1221
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: Doug Emoff was talking about how tough Kamala Harris is,

1222
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: that she's not just joyful, she's also very much the warrior.

1223
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 3: There is another side to Kamala Harris that has as

1224
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 3: she's been establishing herself the last few weeks, it has

1225
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 3: been incredibly successful from a pr standpoint, heavy assist from

1226
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: the media, but it's working so far.

1227
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: In fact, usually whenever they're like a sweetheart publicly, that

1228
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: means they are mean as hell behind the scenes. I've

1229
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: read some of the I have read, yeah, not just Klobachar.

1230
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: I've read some incredible stories about like Bill Clinton and

1231
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: his low Yes, I've heard those like all these guys,

1232
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: wait for the stories about Harris Harris, all these other people.

1233
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: The way it's been explained to me is that they

1234
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: have to project niceness to the entire outside world, and

1235
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: the only outlet that they have is on their staff,

1236
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: and so Joe's staff is just they sit there and

1237
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: they have to take a beating. Let's go ahead and

1238
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: move to the Obama section. So obviously this was critical.

1239
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: This was the big flagship moment. We had two major

1240
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: speeches from Michelle Obama and Barack Obama, and I think

1241
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: that there were two primary There were two primary instructions

1242
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: to the Obamas. For Michelle, first, and most noteworthy to me,

1243
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: she didn't mention Joe Biden's name one time. It was

1244
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: all about Kamala Harris. But more importantly, there were a

1245
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: lot of subtle digs at Biden. She talked about this

1246
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: sickness inside of her that existed while Joe Biden was

1247
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: a candidate, and then how joyful she felt. There was

1248
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: also the hope is making a comeback. So there was

1249
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 2: a lot of writing the nostalgia way and trying to

1250
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: get the Democratic base in prime for two things. Number

1251
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: one literally fired up and ready to go, which Obama

1252
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: gave it that signature line. But two is don't lose hope.

1253
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: Every single day matters. You need to get out there,

1254
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: You needs to door knock. This is going to be

1255
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: a tight race. Don't get complacent. So it was the

1256
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: that was like the primary message Michelle. Also one of

1257
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: the instructions clearly that was given to her was we

1258
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: need to nip a lot of this democratic infighting in

1259
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: the bud and everybody needs to get with the program

1260
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: and get with the program right now. So let's go ahead,

1261
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: Mac and let's cueue up. Michelle Obama, hope is making

1262
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: a comeback. That's probably the biggest one of the bigger

1263
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: lines that she had that night. We'll play some of

1264
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: the others, but let's hear this first one.

1265
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 12: Something wonderfully magical is in the air, isn't it. Yeah,

1266
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 12: you know, we're feeling it here in this arena, but

1267
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 12: it's spreading all across this country. We love a familiar

1268
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 12: feeling that's been buried too deep for far too long.

1269
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about.

1270
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 12: It's the contagious power of hope, the anticipation, the energy,

1271
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 12: the exhilaration of once again being on the cusp of

1272
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 12: a brighter day, the chance to vanquish the demons of fear,

1273
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 12: division and hate that have consumed us and continue pursuing

1274
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 12: the unfinished promise of this great nation, the dream that

1275
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 12: our parents and grandparents fought and died and sacrificed for America.

1276
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 3: Hope is making a comeback.

1277
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's pull out of that, Max. So obviously

1278
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 2: that was a big Rudeeah, go ahead, quick comment.

1279
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 7: One point on that. A lot of people in the

1280
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,479
Speaker 7: Democratic Coalition felt hope in twenty fifteen, again in twenty

1281
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 7: nineteen when Bernie Sanders was running for president on a

1282
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 7: pledge to remake the country more hopeful, just direction running

1283
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 7: for something. If you notice there, what was the hope there?

1284
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 7: No Trump that she would vanquish the evil spirits? Yes,

1285
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 7: the des Yes. And that's that's how you unite the

1286
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 7: Democratic Party, not in in something forward looking of what

1287
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 7: we're going to do, but in who we're going to beat.

1288
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: This was the key thing. Actually, to me, the most

1289
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: important lines from the Obamas both of their speeches was

1290
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: tone policing the Democratic Coalition. So mac, let's cueue up

1291
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: the next one. This is Michelle Obama on the dissenters.

1292
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: And uh, here we have her basically saying, mostly to

1293
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: the Gaza protesters, like, hey, guys, let's nip this into

1294
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: the bud. We're all coming together. It's unity time. If

1295
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: you don't get with the program. Then you're basically helping

1296
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Go ahead, Mac, let's take a listen. Let's

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Speaker 2: get specifically to this quote about the worst enemies and

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Speaker 2: all of that.

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Speaker 12: So go ahead, as we embrace this renewed sense of hope,

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Speaker 12: let us not forget the despair we have felt. Let

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Speaker 12: us not forget what we are up against. Yes, Kamala

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Speaker 12: and Tim are doing great now, we're loving it. They're

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Speaker 12: packing arenas across the country.

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Speaker 3: Folks are energized. We are feeling good.

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Speaker 12: But remember there are still so many people who are

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Speaker 12: desperate for a different outcome, who are ready to question

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Speaker 12: and criticize every move Kamala makes, who are eager to

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Speaker 12: spread those lines, who don't want to vote for a

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Speaker 12: woman who will continue to prioritize building their wealth over

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Speaker 12: ensuring that everyone has enough. So, no matter how good

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Speaker 12: we feel tonight or tomorrow or the next day, this

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Speaker 12: is going to be an uphill battle. So, folks, we

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Speaker 12: cannot be our.

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Speaker 3: Our own worst enemies.

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Speaker 12: No, see, because the minute something goes wrong, the minute

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Speaker 12: alive takes whole. Folks, we cannot start wringing our hands.

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Speaker 12: We cannot get a Goldilocks complex about whether everything is

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Speaker 12: just right, and we cannot indulge our anxieties about whether

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Speaker 12: this country will let somewhat like Kamala instead of doing

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Speaker 12: everything we can to get someone like Kamala elected.

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Speaker 2: So that was the key moment that Ryan the Goldilocks complex.

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Speaker 2: We can't be bogged down in some of this protest nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Not everything can be just right. We cannot indulge our anxieties.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was really really interesting for Michelle because

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Speaker 2: we combine effectively the family her and Nancy Pelosi the

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Speaker 2: most responsible for getting Biden out of the race. Clearly,

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Speaker 2: she has massive resentment against Joe Biden. She didn't even

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Speaker 2: mention his name one time, didn't think him was nothing,

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Speaker 2: implied that he made her physically ill to her stomach

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Speaker 2: while he was in office, and then at the same

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Speaker 2: time doing the tone policing that Obama picks up on

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Speaker 2: in his speech. Go ahead, Ryan, what'd you make of that? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I also thought it was aimed a little bit at

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Speaker 7: people who spent the first you know, several weeks saying like, hey,

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Speaker 7: by the way, what are you gonna run on? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: what are your policies?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna name's not Trump?

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Speaker 7: What are you gonna do if you win. And then

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Speaker 7: when the policies do come out, there's some nitpicking at

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Speaker 7: them here and there. She's saying like, don't just don't

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Speaker 7: do that, like, don't worry about it. We're runing against Trump.

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Speaker 7: He's bad. It's not gonna be a perfect campaign. And

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Speaker 7: Y know that I understand that argument, sure, and most

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Speaker 7: Democrats are like, yeah, actually.

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Speaker 2: Well did you hear the pop when she said that?

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Speaker 2: Because clearly, as you and I know, and we'll get

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Speaker 2: to the protesters and all that, they're not all that

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Speaker 2: welcome there at the DNC, right, I'm seeing any time

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Speaker 2: I see anyone wearing a kafia or anything, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of side eye. And I noticed also when we

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Speaker 2: were interviewing some of the uncommitted delegates and others that

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Speaker 2: there was a people were beefing. Is the way I

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Speaker 2: would put it to them? Their their presence is not welcome.

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Speaker 7: What's the way I would put it. What's interesting is

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Speaker 7: that the policy they support, yeah, is very welcome, like

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Speaker 7: whenever anybody but Warnock. But when Warnock or Sanders or

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Speaker 7: AOC mentions Gaza like, the crowd is like with them.

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Speaker 7: And if you poll Democrats, they want a permanency's fire.

1359
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Speaker 7: Like they are. They want this war, they want this

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Speaker 7: attack on Gaza to end now. But you're right that

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Speaker 7: the individuals who are pushing and making things uncomfortable for

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Speaker 7: them internally, they'd be like, can you can you tone

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Speaker 7: it down.

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Speaker 3: A little bit?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're exactly right. Okay, let's go. I think we

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Speaker 2: have a final Michelle Obama clip. This is probably her

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Speaker 2: biggest moment of the night, making fun of Trump for

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Speaker 2: saying black jobs during his National Association of Black Journalists

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Speaker 2: appearance recently, Mac why don't we go aheading? Cue up

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Speaker 2: the next one. Here's Michelle with the biggest line of

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Speaker 2: the night.

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Speaker 3: We know what comes next.

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Speaker 12: We know folks are gonna do everything they can to

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Speaker 12: distort her truth. My husband and I sadly know a

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Speaker 12: little something about this. For years, Donald Trump did everything

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Speaker 12: in his power to try to make people fear us.

1377
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Speaker 3: See his limited, narrow.

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Speaker 12: View of the world made him feel threatened by the

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Speaker 12: existence of two hard work and highly educated, successful people

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Speaker 12: who happened to be black.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I want to know.

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Speaker 18: I want to know.

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Speaker 12: Who's gonna tell him, Who's gonna tell that the job

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Speaker 12: he's currently seeking might just be one of those.

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Speaker 2: Black jobs oo biggest line of the night, So I

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01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: think that was pretty significant. This was Michelle, from all

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Speaker 2: accounts inside the hall, was much actually better received than Obama.

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Speaker 2: Part of the reason that we led with her. She

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Speaker 2: there's still so much energy around her. Obviously as a

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Speaker 2: potential candidate, she clearly has no zero interest. But any

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Speaker 2: last thoughts on Michelle Obama.

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Speaker 7: The number of people throughout American history who could waltz

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01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 7: into the White House if they want it, but decide

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Speaker 7: not to do it, you can probably count on one hand.

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Speaker 7: Like she could have finished her speech last night by saying, actually,

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Speaker 7: you know what, it's me, I think I want the nomination.

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Speaker 7: The place would have just absolutely erupted. They would have

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Speaker 7: marched to Milwaukee and told Kamalairah was like, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 7: thank you very much, thank you, Kamala, thank you, Kama,

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Speaker 7: thank you, thank you Kama. But it's going to be Michelle. Yeah,

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01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 7: she could have seized it, like in the moment, they

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 7: would have figured out a procedural.

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Speaker 3: Way to make it right.

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Speaker 7: Things happen. Yeah, Yet she doesn't want it. It's it's

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01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 7: it's truly like not in this political world that like

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01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 7: resistance to that poll.

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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and move on to President Obama.

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Speaker 3: He took the stage.

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Speaker 2: It was a pretty long speech, actually well, and he

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Speaker 2: tried again to resurrect some of the hits. So here

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01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: we have yes she can that he tried to get

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Speaker 2: going as a chant inside of the hall. Let's take

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Speaker 2: a listen.

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Speaker 19: College shouldn't be the only ticket to the middle class.

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 19: We need to follow the lead of governors like Tim

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Speaker 19: Wallas who said, if you've got the skills and the drive,

1417
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 19: you shouldn't need a degree to work for state government.

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 19: And in this new economy, we need a president who

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01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 19: actually cares about the millions of people all across this

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01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,959
Speaker 19: country who wake up every single day to do the essential,

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01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 19: often thankless work to care for our sick, to clean

1422
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 19: our streets, to deliver our packages.

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01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 18: We need a.

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01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 19: President who will stand up for their right to bargain

1425
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 19: for better.

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01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 20: Wages and working conditions. And Comuda will be that president.

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01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 20: Yes she can, Yes she can't.

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Speaker 2: All right, fired up and ready to go. He gave

1429
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 2: us all of the absolute classics. Yes she can. There

1430
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: was also a big moment here on crowd sizes. I'll

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01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: let everybody decide what Obama was talking about in terms

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01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,480
Speaker 2: of size for yourself. Probably not family friendly for the stream,

1433
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: but let's go ahead and queue this up. Mac. Let's

1434
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:09,440
Speaker 2: get the sot of President Obama talking about Trump's obsession

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01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: with crowd sizes.

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Speaker 19: There's the childish nicknames, the crazy conspiracy theories, this weird

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01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 19: obsession with crowd sizes.

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Speaker 2: That was absolutely his biggest line in the night. That

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01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: was his line.

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01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 3: So good, he's good at the roast, He's great. It

1441
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 3: was crowd work.

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01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: I mean, he's good with the crowd. Look, he's one

1443
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: of the most generational, you know, probably the best generational.

1444
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 2: He was a politician in modern American history.

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01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 7: He was right though that anybody's following Michelle is stupid.

1446
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 7: He was. He was flat.

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01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think he actually, Oh, I don't think

1448
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: we have that line about the leaf blower. Yeah, I

1449
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: don't don't think we can find it on Twitter. We

1450
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: could probably find it. But can you go ahead and

1451
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: search for that leaf blower thing while I'm talking?

1452
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 7: But yes, this is an old rich man, yeah, being

1453
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 7: out of touch.

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01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. He looked and he's like, you know,

1455
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 2: when you're it's literally like for people who've ever watched

1456
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 2: thirty Rock Tracy Morgan talks about getting He's like, I've

1457
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 2: lost touch with my roots, and he'll do a set.

1458
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: We'd be like, you know, when you're in Saint Bart's

1459
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Speaker 2: and people are eating their lobster, he's like, literally Obama,

1460
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 2: like in Obama's in his multi million dollar mansion in

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01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: Martha's Vineyard, and he's like, you know, when your chef

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01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: dies whenever he goes swimming on your property, when you're

1463
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: gone and you just can't get anybody to serve you

1464
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: some fresh sushi the.

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Speaker 3: Next day and you lose your paddle board, It's like,

1466
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Speaker 3: it's just.

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01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: It's really difficult out here, folks. So we do have

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01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: the leaf blower lote. He looked queue it up and

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Speaker 2: before let Ryan talk right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he tell me if you agree, Chab. But I

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01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 7: think he looks angry at himself after it was bad.

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Speaker 7: After it bombs, He's like, God, I shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear it, dude.

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01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 19: The other day I heard someone compare Trump so the

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01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,799
Speaker 19: neighbor who keeps running his leaf blower outside your window

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:07,959
Speaker 19: every minute of every day. Now, from a neighbor, that's exhausting.

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Speaker 19: From a president, it's just dangerous, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, let's pull out of that. I thought it was awful.

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Speaker 7: It was very and you know, in the second at all,

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01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 7: he's like, he's like, oh that didn't.

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you can tell, you know anyway, And he's.

1482
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 7: So mad at whatever billionaire. I made that point to

1483
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 7: him right now. Yeah, he's never he's never texting that

1484
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 7: guy back.

1485
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: It's like he's like, hey, Richard Branson when we're on

1486
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: the private island, just shut up next time. Okay, just

1487
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 2: for that was his first trip after president. If anybody

1488
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: is wondering, okay, let's go ahead. Finally, the last clip

1489
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Speaker 2: of Obama. This again pairs very well with Michelle. The

1490
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: most important part here is Obama trying to tone police democrats.

1491
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: Stop being so preachy. We need to win people over.

1492
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 2: No more language nonsense, lots of anti cancel culture stuff here.

1493
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 2: So let's hear it from the from Obama. This was

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01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: a Honestly, this is one of the biggest sections of

1495
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: his speech, and he saved it to the end and

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: he was speaking very directly at the audience here. So

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Speaker 2: let's take a listen to Professor Obama.

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Speaker 19: Isn't just a bunch of abstract principles and dusty laws

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01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 19: in some books somewhere.

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Speaker 4: It's the values we live by.

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01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 19: It's the way we treat each other, including those who

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01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 19: don't look like us, or pray like us, or see

1503
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 19: the world exactly like we do. That sense of mutual

1504
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 19: respect has to be part of our message. Our politics

1505
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 19: have become so polarized these days that all of us

1506
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 19: across the political spectrum seems so quick to assume the

1507
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 19: worst in others unless they agree with us on every

1508
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 19: single issue. We start thinking that the only way to

1509
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 19: win is to scold and shame and out yell the

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Speaker 19: other side, and after a while, regular folks just tune out.

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Speaker 5: Or they don't bother to vote.

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Speaker 19: Now, that approach may work for the politicians who just

1513
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 19: want attention.

1514
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 20: And thrive on division, but it won't work for us.

1515
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 19: To make progress on the things we care about, the

1516
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 19: things that really affect people's lives.

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01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 20: We need to remember that we've all got.

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01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 19: Our blind spots and contradictions and prejudices, and that if

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01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 19: we want to win over those who aren't yet ready

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01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 19: to support our candidates, we need to listen to their concerns.

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01:15:55,400 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 20: And maybe learn something in the process. After all, if a.

1522
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 19: Parent or grandparent occasionally says something that makes us cringe.

1523
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 19: We don't automatically assume they're bad people. We recognize that

1524
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 19: the world is moving fast that they need time and

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01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 19: maybe a little encouragement to catch up.

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Speaker 2: All right, I mean tone policing Obama. I mean I

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01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: don't disagree with a word that he said. I mean,

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01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: this is something that people always forget about Obama. This

1529
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: is the guy who lied about not supporting gay marriage

1530
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: in two thousand, right, this is the guy who's like,

1531
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? I love to shoot guns.

1532
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm not a rich liberal from Chicago who you know.

1533
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: And the point behind that is actually sometimes trying to

1534
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: play up and be you know, trying to relate to

1535
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 2: people who you're not like is not a bad thing.

1536
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 2: And he's about persuading people to vote for you. And

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01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 2: no matter what, he was never good at getting other

1538
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 2: people elected, lost state houses and all that, he was

1539
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 2: great at getting himself elected. I mean, twenty twelve was

1540
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 2: a winnable race for Republicans, and I think in retrospect

1541
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: he actually Obama very easily could have been beaten. But

1542
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 2: he played a masterful campaign, brutal against Romney despite the

1543
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: bad economy and up until the day he left office

1544
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 2: maintain a some fifty five something sixty percent approval rating.

1545
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: That's high, and people should listen and learn from that.

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01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 2: Part of the reason that Obama got the primetime speech

1547
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: last night, how I Bill Clinton is getting a primetime

1548
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 2: speech right before Tim Walls. Not an accident in either

1549
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 2: of those cases.

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01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. And the yes she can chance. I

1551
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 3: don't even want to gloss over that. I feel like

1552
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 3: that's actually a really really big deal because you're transferring, right.

1553
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 3: It's sort of like how Hillary Clinton transferred herself as

1554
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 3: this building block she transferred twenty sixteen in two thousand

1555
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 3: and eight to some extent to this building block to

1556
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 3: the first female presidency. And what you have with Obama

1557
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 3: is this transferring of inspirational energy that a lot of

1558
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: Democratic voters still remember than to Kamala Harris. And I

1559
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: think Obama's at his worst when he's lecturing. This is

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01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 3: least likable. When he's it's like he's talking down to

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01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 3: the public. That's not his strength. I think that's when

1562
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 3: he like veers into the unlikable Obama. But when he's likable,

1563
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 3: he reminds people why they showed up in the streets

1564
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 3: of Chicago for him in the I mean didn't even

1565
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 3: remember how big that crowd was electional it was. That's

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01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 3: a legendary moment in American and so if you can

1567
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 3: channel that to the Harris campaign, just to give him,

1568
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 3: give her a little bit of that magic, as Michelle

1569
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 3: Obama mentioned, if you can rub off on her some

1570
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 3: of that. It did not work for Hillary Clinton. We

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01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 3: talked about this recently.

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01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 2: My final thought on just on the DNC everything that happened. Yes,

1573
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: there were contradictions JB. Pritzker, Bernie Sanders, but in prime time,

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01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: the Obamas, they really brought it home. Obama, by the way,

1575
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 2: did take time to actually thank Joe Biden, so you know,

1576
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 2: at least somebody in the family was like, hey, you know,

1577
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 2: thank you very much, Joe Biden for everything that you're doing.

1578
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 2: In terms of how it went for them, I thought

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01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 2: that it was effective in trying to transfer as much

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01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: as their energy as they can. Let's not forget they

1581
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 2: weren't able to put Hillary across the line. You know,

1582
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 2: it's not like they still are able to do that,

1583
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 2: but they did their best that they could to kind

1584
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: of fire up the energy. I'm going to take a

1585
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: quick bathroom break everybody. Emily and Ryan are going to

1586
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 2: Emily and Ryan are going to be taking questions from

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Speaker 2: so go to the live chat you see right here. Yeah,

1589
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: this is where questions are come in. Click a jump

1590
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: to recent messages and then just sit there and wait

1591
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,120
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01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 2: people are reminded of we have a promo going on

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1596
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: guys can hold down the ford. You can offer last

1597
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: thoughts Ryan if you want. I'm just going into the bathroom.

1598
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:49,799
Speaker 2: This is any ghost energy drinks.

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Speaker 3: There's a really good question here actually for Ryan, I think,

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01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 3: which is predictions for a Kamala cabinet. That's a fascinating question,

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01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 3: like think of the exect sure state. Who do we

1602
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 3: go with here?

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01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 7: Well, the scariest one is Treasury secretary. There is there

1604
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:14,480
Speaker 7: are some indications that Gina Rimando, who desperately tried to

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01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 7: become Treasury secretary under the Biden administration and ended up

1606
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 7: being Commerce Secretary she was kind of blocked by the

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01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 7: kind of Warren faction Bernie faction in Washington, d C.

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01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 7: She's a former banker who became Rhode Island's governor, as

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01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 7: friendly to corporate America and banks as you can get

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01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 7: in today's Democratic Party, which is awfully friendly. And there

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01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 7: was a report that she was vetted for a vice president,

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01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 7: and I think that was a I think that was

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01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 7: basically a fake report in the sense that they wanted

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01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 7: it hanging out there that she was being vetted for

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01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 7: vice president despite the fact that they were never going

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01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 7: to choose her, so that when she was then named

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01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 7: as Treasury secretary, it'd be a more palatable and predictable.

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01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, she was almost vice president and like we're

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01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 7: gonna have a We're gonna have a woman Treasury sector

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01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 7: in yell and followed by Ramato. So I think that

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01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 7: would be a pretty dark signal of which if if

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01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 7: Kamala does go that direction and you're looking at a

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01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 7: very like kind of corporate friendly administration at that point, however,

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01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 7: she would then be clashing with you know, Lena Kahan

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01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 7: wrote hit Chopra over it over at CPB, which is sort.

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01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 3: Of right where you had these people from totally different

1627
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 3: poles fighting it out Duking on his cabinet meetings. He

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01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 3: liked it.

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01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 7: So yeah, Secretary of State. So Jake Sullivan, no, she's

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01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 7: getting rid of these guys to her to her credit,

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01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 7: she has said Lloyd Austin gone, Jake Sullivan gone, Tony

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01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 7: Blink and gone.

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01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 5: Good.

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01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 3: Who does she surround herself with because for the last but.

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01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 7: She's got two interesting So she's got Elon Goldberg and

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01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 7: Phil Gordon as her like top. So Elon Goldberg uh

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01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 7: Is hit is her liaison basically to the Jewish community.

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01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 7: Is kind of a well respected He's like a liberal

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01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 7: Zionist basically, but like there's some hostility to him from

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01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 7: the APAC world. It's not but you're never You're never

1641
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 7: going to get like an anti Zionist, certainly not in

1642
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 7: the that liaison position, but not as Secretary of State either.

1643
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 7: Phil Gordon wrote wrote a book about American coups and interventions,

1644
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 7: and the thesis of the book is that they have

1645
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 7: almost always like been disastrous for the country where we

1646
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 7: carried them out, but also counter to us interest. So

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01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 7: it would be fascinating if that trajectory continues.

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01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 3: Well, just Yeah, that is super interesting. And just think

1649
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 3: about this since what ninth, So since January of two thousand,

1650
01:22:54,880 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 3: Democrats have not had a personnel situation of non Obama

1651
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 3: people in the White House. So this is like the

1652
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 3: torch being passed to Kamala Harris and her saying no

1653
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 3: to Biden world. That's really saying no to Obama world,

1654
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 3: which takes us back to for Democrats, and you've been

1655
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 3: covering this since like two thousand and eight, January two

1656
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 3: thousand and nine, this is a new set of people

1657
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 3: for the most part. If she's jettising the Obama.

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01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 7: Folks Elon Goldenberg by the way, not Elon Goldberg, but

1659
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 7: so and but yeah, if you know, there's not a

1660
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 7: lot of wiggle room in the American empire. But if

1661
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 7: they if you could move from the Biden kind of

1662
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 7: foreign policy folks to the Obama approach to the Middle East,

1663
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 7: which was like try to actually like check saut Arabia,

1664
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 7: disengage and move on from that region, then that within

1665
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 7: the confines of the possible is kind of it would

1666
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 7: be a.

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01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 3: Good question from Harlow Burn.

1668
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 7: All right, now, thank you, Maybe maybe why we'll have thoughts.

1669
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 2: Indulging my indulging my bathroom break in the inch room.

1670
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: We also brought in the intrepid reporter Dave Weigel of Semaphore.

1671
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 2: Dave is here on the scene for covering the DNC

1672
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 2: And but and yet, Dave, we're gonna have to talk

1673
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: about RFK Junior's That's.

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Speaker 21: Why I have this phone for. I mean, lots of things,

1675
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 21: but I try to confirm RFK thing.

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01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So, Dave, we reacted to the clip of Nicole

1677
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 2: Shanahan yesterday, huge obviously. But now RFK is slated to

1678
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: do a press conference on Friday in the state of Arizona.

1679
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is going to be in Arizona. We have

1680
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 2: a quote here from Jonathan Carl I will not confirm

1681
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: or deny that about endorsing Donald Trump. We're not talking

1682
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 2: RFK Junior is saying. This is RFK jing saying that

1683
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 2: what's your reaction? Tell us kind of your what you're seeing, hearing,

1684
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 2: et cetera.

1685
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 21: They want to surprise people on Friday. We're going to

1686
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 21: see how many people speak about this, both what they

1687
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 21: announced and whether he shows up at this I think

1688
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 21: he's turning for an action event. Yeah, and nobody around

1689
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 21: this event is confirmed. How We're going to have an

1690
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 21: amazing moment. You're gonna love it. They want they want

1691
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 21: some suspense, but that's clearly where it's heading and Trump

1692
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 21: Trump has already done with Democrats. I was talking to

1693
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 21: like which is saying that he likes RFK, would put

1694
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 21: him administration. They believe their whole heuristic this year is

1695
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 21: these guys are weird, and they believe through lots of

1696
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 21: money and opposition research and media outreach, they have defined

1697
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,440
Speaker 21: RFK from what he was before to a laughingstock.

1698
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 8: They had other words in my phone for him.

1699
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 21: But they really think that when people hear RK, maybe

1700
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 21: whatever they thought of him two years ago, they now

1701
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 21: think brainworm, leaving a bear, Central Park, conspiracy. Theorists will

1702
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 21: say anything, and they think that they could build, they

1703
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,600
Speaker 21: could duct take that to Trump now. That that is

1704
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 21: their take, which I think might be a little bit optimistic,

1705
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 21: because there are a trunk of voters who hate the

1706
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 21: establishment and that say, oh, well Trump, if Trump brings

1707
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 21: him this guy, I'm interested.

1708
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 3: But they don't think that'll matter. That's that's their take,

1709
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 3: all right.

1710
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 2: So what do you think is the Democratic reaction? Obviously

1711
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,879
Speaker 2: they're they're not happy about it. But with Trump himself.

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01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 2: One of the things I'm interested in because you talk

1713
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 2: to these guys too. They didn't want to have they

1714
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 2: didn't want to do the prequel quid pro quote deal

1715
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 2: with him from cabinet membership. So is what what realistically

1716
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: can RFK get out of Donald Trump at this point?

1717
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 21: Well, Trump already the thing is, he already said he'd

1718
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 21: be interested in putting putting him aministration.

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01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 8: So what are the follow up questions?

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01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 21: And Trump on like unlike other presidential candidates, does lots

1721
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 21: of lots of questions. He's I wouldn't say he's been

1722
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 21: baited into. He likes it anyway, but they're doing more

1723
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 21: because Kamlo is not doing it. What are the follow

1724
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 21: up questions? Where would you put my administration? Do you

1725
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 21: agree with him on vaccines? You could just kind of

1726
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 21: write little keep going, write a list of things he

1727
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,799
Speaker 21: would get asked. I haven't talked to a Democratic senator

1728
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 21: since this. I would talk to some this morning, were

1729
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 21: at the convention.

1730
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 3: It's not hard. They're everywhere, Yeah they are.

1731
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 21: But a question for them is would you vote to

1732
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 21: confirm this guy anything? And they'll probably say they'll probably

1733
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 21: say no es because they think he's they think he's

1734
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 21: a lunatic at this point. But it becomes a series

1735
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 21: of questions and we're it's seventy seven days.

1736
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 8: That's there's a lot of days.

1737
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 21: But every day you're spending on odd questions about a

1738
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 21: potential personnel pick is not a win. You're not You're

1739
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 21: not You're not nailing Tim Walls, You're not nailing Kamala Harris.

1740
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 21: You're saying, would we put this guy who look at

1741
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 21: this clip of him saying something weird on a podcast

1742
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 21: seven months ago.

1743
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 8: I might be I might be made inlining too much.

1744
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 21: Of what Democrats are saying, just because they were answering

1745
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 21: my text faster in the last.

1746
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: Thirty minutes and we're surrounded by them.

1747
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 21: But that's there, they think because because what would this

1748
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 21: look like? Would it step on their convention? It would

1749
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 21: be news that would come out of the convention, but

1750
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 21: they don't think it would be bad for them.

1751
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 3: I could see Trump having a lot of fun actually

1752
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 3: potentially with Kennedy, because I think Trump understands the Kennedy

1753
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 3: aesthetics maybe better than RFK Junior does at this point,

1754
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 3: Like I could see Trump trotting him out at rallies

1755
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 3: and being like this is a member of Democratic royalty,

1756
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,799
Speaker 3: This is a Kennedy. The Kennedys are an iconic American family,

1757
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 3: and he can't stomach the Democrats.

1758
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 8: Right, No, this is an argum. That's an argument Trump

1759
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 8: could make about it.

1760
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 21: And and I have met I know of people who

1761
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 21: just don't like your audience rightly, people like people know

1762
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 21: who watched their show, listen to Joe Rogan and uh,

1763
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 21: they would take a second look at Trump if if

1764
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:51,839
Speaker 21: someone like Kennedy, who they think is honest.

1765
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 8: I mean I always I read YouTube comments. I'm not

1766
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 8: sure why, but you do see this.

1767
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 21: People who are not maybe in the meanstre media discourse,

1768
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 21: hear him and think this guy can't maybe saying all this,

1769
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 21: he must be honest. There is no politician that talks

1770
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 21: like this. He would have announced, write with I think

1771
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 21: you're right he would have that.

1772
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 2: With life, I mean empirically too, Dave. He is drawing

1773
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 2: votes away from Trump at this point. Yet at this

1774
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 2: point it's just crystal clear, like we see it where

1775
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 2: he was at twelve percent or whatever, drops down five

1776
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 2: almost all the Democrats disaffected as going back to kam Law.

1777
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 2: So for Trump, like it's a problem and it would

1778
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 2: be smart for him to make a deal with it.

1779
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 21: Yeah, Democrats have been dugging against him. They never thought

1780
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 21: he they thought I think for the last couple of

1781
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 21: weeks that he who was hurting Trump, But they still

1782
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 21: thought it was an X factor. And right now they're

1783
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 21: in a good mood right now. Obviously right now they

1784
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 21: are thinking we can put together a two thousand and

1785
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 21: eight coalition who cares, we don't need to sleep slice

1786
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 21: off votes for him.

1787
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 8: But they not enough up.

1788
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 21: But also the only money being spent for Kennedy by

1789
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 21: a party was Republicans. Republican donors funding a pack that

1790
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 21: restoration pack at different pack in Pennsylvania, some of that,

1791
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 21: but there's one in Pennsylvania that was saying direct mail

1792
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 21: to Democrats and saying, hey, Democrats, rfk is on the ballot.

1793
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 21: He's a great Democrat, he's progressive, he's pro choice. They're

1794
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 21: still and maybe they were just behind behind the times,

1795
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 21: but Democrats have been convinced for a long time there

1796
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 21: is there that these guys are just not gettable and

1797
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 21: their coalition. I mentioned those voters they're not getting Joe

1798
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 21: Rogan voters, they're not getting like the working class people

1799
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 21: guys undecided about this. They are getting college educated liberals

1800
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 21: who like the Kennedys but think this guy is bad,

1801
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 21: and so they just don't talk to these people anymore.

1802
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, curious for you today. I just think they're totally

1803
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 7: missing it, like I think Democrats are. Yeah, yeah, I

1804
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 7: think Democrats are wrong that this could this could significantly

1805
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 7: help Trump at the margins. If this is if this

1806
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 7: is another election that's decided in a handful of swing

1807
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 7: states by one hundred and fifty thousand votes or two

1808
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 7: hundred thousand votes total, and it moves five five percent

1809
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 7: is a lot. Yeah, that's five percent in falling. So

1810
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 7: by the time if he if he stays into November,

1811
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 7: he might be a two or three percent by the

1812
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,759
Speaker 7: time that all comes around. But two or three percent

1813
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 7: is enough in one hundred and fifty thousand, you know.

1814
01:29:58,800 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1815
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 21: And I was talking to other Vercraft's not today but

1816
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 21: before who were just who were joking but joking with

1817
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 21: intent that it'd be great if one of our rich

1818
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 21: people started sending mail to the guys who we know

1819
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 21: with like an NFL channel subscriptions saying you're gonna love

1820
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 21: RFK Junior. Yeah, in the context that they thought they had,

1821
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 21: they had to pump him up. The one the X

1822
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 21: factor is how popular is is Kamal Harris by the

1823
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 21: time we vote, Because that's I think what I'm talking about.

1824
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 8: They're getting this.

1825
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 21: The other thing right now was her favorables. This is

1826
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 21: unpreced editor up at at somebody this point in her

1827
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 21: life in American politics.

1828
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:30,799
Speaker 8: Is now.

1829
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 21: Six to eight to nine points more popular, more favorably

1830
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 21: viewed than Trump. Walls is favorably viewed, and in a

1831
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 21: it's not a double hater election anymore, right now, it's not.

1832
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 21: It is an election between a Democrat who's about as

1833
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 21: popular as Biden was twenty twenty a little bit less,

1834
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 21: and Trump, who's more popular than ever but forty two percent.

1835
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 21: And they think in that well, fifty percent, that's it.

1836
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 21: We just we just go and convince everyone who voted

1837
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 21: for Mark Kelly and Arizona, everyone who voted for John

1838
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 21: Ozof and Georgia, those people just come back. You know us,

1839
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 21: you know you know Kamala Harris. You like her, don't you?

1840
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 3: So talk to us?

1841
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 2: So you've been around now Democrats, the narrative of joy

1842
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 2: and all that we personally like. There's a lot of

1843
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: Republicans are saying it's fake. I don't think it's fake.

1844
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 2: Being in the arena, there's a lot of unity. So

1845
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 2: what do you think the strategy coming out of this?

1846
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 2: You remember that you have a lot more access than

1847
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 2: we do. What is the reception about finally taking some

1848
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 2: questions the interviews, because that's been the most frustrating part

1849
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 2: for a lot of us. No interviews even scheduled now

1850
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 2: at this point, and the lack of press availability. Are

1851
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 2: they are they just giving stonewall? What's the plan around it?

1852
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 2: Right now?

1853
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 8: They stolen on that.

1854
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 21: They're also still walling on just if they just put

1855
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 21: her policies on their website. I was just talking to

1856
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 21: some Democrats and more competitive races. They're not worried about

1857
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 21: running on her anti price gouging or aid for first

1858
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 21: time home buyers. They're really they think they can defend it.

1859
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 21: I mean, talk to some candidates and close races, and

1860
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 21: so that's great. That's it's media I can talk about

1861
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 21: in some speech.

1862
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 8: And they're not. They're being super cautious. They really are.

1863
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 21: The Trump critique that they are just trying to run

1864
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 21: a play, a movie, run a vibes campaign. It's right

1865
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,759
Speaker 21: and Democrats are in a very.

1866
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 8: What are you going to do about it?

1867
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 3: Mode?

1868
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 21: Yeah, you can't force us to take questions. It needs

1869
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 21: to get so it's get toxically bad. Their thing they're

1870
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,959
Speaker 21: doing a little bit is waiting out some bad narratives.

1871
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 21: Had she did an interview on day one, she would

1872
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 21: have had answered Medicare for All questions. Had wallsen interview

1873
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 21: on day two, he would have had answered national Guard questions.

1874
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 5: Right.

1875
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 21: And how long can you make that old news? I

1876
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 21: think that's misguided. I mean because I see that at

1877
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 21: this convention. Josh Shapiro, for example, one example, he's been

1878
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 21: asked about a thousand times do you think it was

1879
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 21: anti Semitism? The reason that you're not on the ticket?

1880
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 21: He's answered it similar ways a thousand times. These stories

1881
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 21: don't die. People want their own sound, they want their

1882
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 21: own clips, so they will get this and there. I

1883
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 21: don't think they're terrified. It's not like Hillary Clinton being

1884
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 21: worried that every press conference is going to be emails

1885
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 21: and servers and why do people tru distrust you? But

1886
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 21: they're not even scheduling a TikTok implementer who is going

1887
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 21: to softball tim they're.

1888
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,799
Speaker 3: Not doing any even doing that. That's and they just think.

1889
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 8: They don't need to, which I don't think.

1890
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, what's your sense of Actually our colleagues

1891
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 3: in the press, especially people that you spend a lot

1892
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 3: of time with when you're kind of walking around the

1893
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 3: convention area, and that because with Biden when he wasn't

1894
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 3: doing interviews in twenty twenty, the anger from the press

1895
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 3: I think actually really did push the Biden campaign, like

1896
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 3: forced their hand. Do you get the sense that that

1897
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 3: type of anger is going to start bubbling over the

1898
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 3: surface to the point where Kamala Harris is forced to

1899
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 3: start doing way more press.

1900
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 21: Yeah, and who forces her? But there are some quasi

1901
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:36,719
Speaker 21: traditions that should be happening right now. There the Time

1902
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 21: magazine thing, if you still care about print. I still

1903
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 21: don't care at print. It is weird to get the

1904
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 21: cover with that an interview that's around a convention. The

1905
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 21: old tradition was there's a cover, it's both can't tickets,

1906
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 21: And they did their Trump interview in the summer, they

1907
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 21: did their buy an interview. There should have been a

1908
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 21: Kamala Harris and the ticket and yeah, they do both.

1909
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 21: I don't know, I don't work a time. I don't

1910
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 21: know if that's being negotiated. Probably not. There should be

1911
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,480
Speaker 21: a sixty minute sit down another quase. I mean, these

1912
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 21: are like Biden the super Bowl interviews. It's not in

1913
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 21: the constitution, but you usually do them. Yeah, exactly. And

1914
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 21: I think the Trump storyline, which is consistent that she

1915
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 21: is just loopy and she can't defend her policies, that

1916
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 21: has stuck a little bit. That's why they're taking more

1917
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 21: questions on the tarmac, taking any which is that mollified things.

1918
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 21: I guess to back it up, the reason you're not

1919
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 21: seeing people saying when the hail is this going to

1920
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 21: happen is Biden was locked up and not doing anything

1921
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 21: for weeks at a time in twenty twenty. The fact

1922
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 21: that there is a clock that restarts every time she

1923
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 21: goes out of the bus, take six questions and they

1924
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 21: answer the news of the day, and the Trump campaign

1925
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 21: bats it around that.

1926
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 8: I don't know how many hours it starts, the clock

1927
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 8: and fared a few days. You don't hear about that.

1928
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 21: Yeah, I don't think that could last. If they go

1929
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 21: through the week after the convention, no interviews, that would

1930
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 21: would be okay. Seriously, though, you're not going to deal,

1931
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 21: because then you start to leave questions for the debate,

1932
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 21: and you leave moderators questions like do you want, for

1933
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 21: the first time you have to defend a complicated to

1934
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 21: be on a debate stage with Trump.

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Speaker 8: Maybe it goes well, maybe it doesn't.

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Speaker 21: You'd rather get that through in a news cycle with

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Speaker 21: Leslie Stall or somebody.

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Speaker 7: That's an interesting Yeah, it is an interesting point that

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Speaker 7: this comes after months of Biden either being unwilling or

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Speaker 7: unable to do serious press availability.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Sure, and to the extent that he would do them,

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Speaker 7: the only questions that we would get answered were like

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Speaker 7: how cogent he was that day, not you know what

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Speaker 7: his actual defense of this particular policy was. And he's

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Speaker 7: not even the one running anymore.

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Speaker 21: So yeah, yeah, And it is it's a different problem

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Speaker 21: because she she can give, she can give bad answers,

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Speaker 21: she can give good answers. Biden just was not giving

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Speaker 21: good answers to anything. Go through it again, and every

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Speaker 21: question was on the frame no one's going I can't

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Speaker 21: speak for everybody. People are not going to walk into

1953
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Speaker 21: a Biden interview and say Americans think you're stupid and

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Speaker 21: you're drunk all the time, what's your answer that that's

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Speaker 21: not the overall and press there's not eighty percent of

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Speaker 21: people telling posters, I think that that's Trump's rates on

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Speaker 21: Twitter saying that that is not how people think of

1958
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Speaker 21: Harrisey poll most people think that she's competent to be president.

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Speaker 21: They don't have those problems. So there's not a good

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Speaker 21: reason to not put her out there. And if you've

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Speaker 21: interviewed her, I haven't. I haven't a while really since

1962
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Speaker 21: she was running for president. But she can overtalk things,

1963
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Speaker 21: but so could Brock Obama. But Barack Obama could give

1964
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Speaker 21: like a long professorial answer it was weird, it would

1965
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Speaker 21: go somewhere that it was usually more. He would land

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Speaker 21: someplace boring, not weird typically but right.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, yeah, she she loops around, which is her problem.

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Speaker 7: Whereas and you can watch her looping around. Yeah, gets

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Speaker 7: stuck in the loop. Where Whereas Biden Biden might meander

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Speaker 7: I'm not Biden, sorry, Biden about by Obama would kind

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Speaker 7: of meander, but it would when you transcribe it, it's

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Speaker 7: still a paragraph that was like making a coherentill point.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, hers, they don't look crazy, but you're that's

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Speaker 21: a good way to put it that she she knows

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Speaker 21: the point she wants to make, and she thinks of

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Speaker 21: something that she's add to it, but then she goes

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Speaker 21: back to make.

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Speaker 8: The first point. It's just people learn different.

1979
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Speaker 21: They as soon as why Tim Wall speaks different because

1980
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Speaker 21: he was a teacher and he and he was like

1981
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Speaker 21: being a teacher for years and years and having that

1982
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Speaker 21: kind of rhetoric versus being a district attorney and making

1983
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Speaker 21: making arguments in court rooms and called the jury one

1984
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Speaker 21: hundred times. Yeah, I don't think it's like crippling problem.

1985
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Speaker 21: But she just she she rambles in a different way.

1986
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Speaker 2: Hey, what I keep hearing from the Trump people is honeymoon, honeymoon, honeymoon.

1987
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Speaker 2: We're going to kill them after Labor Day, And I, well,

1988
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Speaker 2: it's you know, it's kind of a long time, like

1989
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Speaker 2: voting starts, voting starts, So yeah, I don't really understand, like.

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Speaker 8: Why the way early vote that starts early.

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Speaker 2: So what's your assessment? Is that cope that I'm hearing from.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely true that they're going to killer after labor Day?

1993
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Speaker 2: But is it cope in that they just don't what

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Speaker 2: to do? Like a lot of stuff is not sticking.

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Speaker 21: A little bit of his cope because I'm very forgiving.

1996
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Speaker 21: Even when I talked to Democrats, they just yes, there,

1997
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Speaker 21: we never thought this would happen. There was a reason

1998
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Speaker 21: so many Democrats were saying, we need to open a

1999
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Speaker 21: convention because we're worried that Kamal is unpopular and she'll

2000
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 21: never who who gets more popular? Like after being vice

2001
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Speaker 21: president and becoming the candidate without anything happening. Who who

2002
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 21: would have if you had any of us or talked

2003
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Speaker 21: to a Democrat and said, hey, Coama's gonna have rally

2004
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Speaker 21: with eighteen thousand people, we wouldn't have believed that. So

2005
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 21: the Trump world is still adjusting to that weird reality.

2006
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Speaker 21: The part that's not COPE is they do they are,

2007
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 21: They have their ad spending, and it's not getting to

2008
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Speaker 21: discuss very much because I don't what gets in the discourse.

2009
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 21: Who knows if you watch their actual paid media, it's

2010
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 21: all very Here is a criminal that Kama let out

2011
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Speaker 21: of jail. Here's a criminal across the border. Here's a

2012
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 21: grizzly story of something that happened. It's her fault. They

2013
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 21: do have these clear messages of crime and the border.

2014
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Speaker 21: The COPE part of that is that they've been running

2015
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Speaker 21: them for a month and they haven't really done damage yet.

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Speaker 21: Her favorables have gone up, But that's why you keep

2017
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Speaker 21: running them. I mean, so, I think I think they're

2018
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 21: not wrong. That you get out of the convention, you're

2019
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 21: gonna have more questions why is she's doing an interview

2020
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 21: and you're just gonna have more and more people clicking

2021
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:53,719
Speaker 21: on YouTube and the pre roll ad is a terable

2022
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Speaker 21: crime that she let happen.

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Speaker 8: Or they have their their own polling.

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Speaker 21: Everybody's polling says that the urge people to don't donate

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Speaker 21: to the Minnesota Minneapolis Freedom Fund was is a killer. Ye,

2026
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Speaker 21: they do think, and I think they're not crazy. If

2027
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 21: you just keep repeating that, people are gonna know. Democrats

2028
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Speaker 21: spent nine months talking about Presure twenty twenty five and

2029
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Speaker 21: then it really only clicked once Trump made a weird

2030
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Speaker 21: comment about how we didn't know who was behind it.

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Speaker 21: But if you asked Democrats four months in, it was

2032
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Speaker 21: fair to say, like this is why are you still

2033
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Speaker 21: doing this? This is not clicking. So I think it's

2034
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Speaker 21: not coked. I think it's more money. It's the old

2035
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Speaker 21: like Steven Sondheim talking about West Side Story and they

2036
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 21: told him it wasn't hummable, and he's like, well then

2037
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Speaker 21: MGM spent ten million dollars promoting and all of a

2038
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Speaker 21: sudden it was humbable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

2040
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Speaker 2: Good, that's a good last. Do you want to talk

2041
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 2: about the squad? Are you willing to do that with?

2042
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2043
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:36,719
Speaker 19: Sure?

2044
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's an interesting clip, producer, Mat, can you

2045
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Speaker 2: pull this up ilhan Omar this morning at a protest?

2046
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Speaker 3: Take me swipe? It looks like an AOC.

2047
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Speaker 7: Should we Mac, Do you have AOC's original I just

2048
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Speaker 7: I just.

2049
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Speaker 5: Put it in so we can play that first.

2050
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's let's first let let's hear from AOC.

2051
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Speaker 2: Let's hear the original comment about Kamala working tirelessly for

2052
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Speaker 2: a ceasefire. Then we'll go to Ilhan all right, Mac,

2053
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Speaker 2: que up AOC.

2054
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Speaker 3: Let's go ahead.

2055
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:05,799
Speaker 5: Let's intro it again without the instruction.

2056
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Speaker 19: Sure.

2057
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what this is is that this is AOC

2058
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Speaker 2: here we're looking at a schism opening up between AOC

2059
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Speaker 2: and ilhan Omar. AOC on the stage main stage, first

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Speaker 2: night of the convention says that Kamala is quote working

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Speaker 2: tirelessly for a ceasefire, ilhan Omar and then taking a

2062
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Speaker 2: shot at her at a subsequent protest that just happened today.

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Speaker 2: We're filming this on Wednesday morning. First, let's take a

2064
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Speaker 2: listen to AOC's comments. Let's go ahead, and she is.

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Speaker 13: Working tirelessly to secure a ceasefire in Gaza and bringing

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Speaker 13: hostages home.

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Speaker 2: All right, working tirelessly bringing hostages home. Now, let's bring

2068
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Speaker 2: up the ilhan Omar reaction that we just heard today

2069
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Speaker 2: that was actually at a protest. There, we go go

2070
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Speaker 2: ahead and play it.

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Speaker 3: It's been unconscionable for me in the last ten months

2072
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Speaker 3: to witness my colleagues in this administration refusing to recognize

2073
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Speaker 3: the genocidal.

2074
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Speaker 14: War that is safe to face, the Lazza, to not

2075
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Speaker 14: see the mothers.

2076
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Speaker 5: Who have lost coupless children.

2077
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Speaker 19: The babies whose did bodies are being dunned out.

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Speaker 3: I do not understand that working tirelessly for a ceasefire

2079
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Speaker 3: is really not.

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Speaker 5: A thing, and they should be.

2081
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Speaker 3: A chiemed of herself.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what did you make of that, Dave, Because

2083
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Speaker 2: that was I mean, some intrasquad violence. There was a

2084
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Speaker 2: lot of talk after the AOC thing. They're like, oh,

2085
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Speaker 2: she's she's really she's a good Democrat. She's doing well.

2086
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Speaker 2: She's very much on the team. But Ilhan, you know,

2087
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 2: taking a shot at her. You know, they're saying, my

2088
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 2: colleagues suggesting this.

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Speaker 8: Yes, and and I was.

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Speaker 21: I was at that press presser and she she jumped

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Speaker 21: to a van after that. But the questions were generally

2092
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,719
Speaker 21: about that, and she did not want to if she's

2093
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 21: everyone in the squad's aware how things can just become

2094
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 21: intra family few things with no content. Yeah, but but

2095
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 21: but that was that was a choice because they're negotiating

2096
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Speaker 21: for more both policy and at the convention itself. They

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Speaker 21: do not want the offer at the convention to be well.

2098
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Speaker 21: Bernie and AOC and Biden all mentioned you and so

2099
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Speaker 21: we're good, right, And the answer from not her for

2100
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Speaker 21: other Democrats, they're just the evolving answer today was if

2101
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Speaker 21: we get a ceasefire, this this goes away, like they're

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Speaker 21: serious about it, the arms and bargo talk.

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Speaker 3: That goes away.

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Speaker 21: But she was speaking because that was a pressor with

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Speaker 21: the uncommitted delegates. Corey Bush was there. I'm not sure

2106
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Speaker 21: she was in the background. And yes, that is a break.

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Speaker 21: She doesn't want to make it personal, but that is

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Speaker 21: a please you and the media do not say that

2109
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Speaker 21: they have fixed this problem because of what they gave

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Speaker 21: is the convention, you like, please be like me more

2111
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Speaker 21: cynical and ask more questions about this. That's it's a

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Speaker 21: very inside outside thing that they were doing now because

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Speaker 21: they're they have a lot of press. I mean, you

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Speaker 21: saw there I probably fifty to sixty people at that

2115
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Speaker 21: some foreign, but a lot American and Democrats are this

2116
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Speaker 21: happened in twenty sixteen, where there was less and less

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Speaker 21: attention and over the course of the week to Bernie

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Speaker 21: Bernie people and what the ah Mans were, and they

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Speaker 21: know that could happen, so they're trying to just keep

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Speaker 21: this in the blood stream. Continue if you cooc ask

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Speaker 21: her this, if you see Bernie asking this, do not

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Speaker 21: let this them go off stage and then say all right, well,

2123
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Speaker 21: what about the balloon dropt a news story?

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Speaker 3: Well, both of you, actually, I'm curious for what you

2125
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Speaker 3: were hearing on this as to whether ilhan Omar is

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Speaker 3: speaking for other members of the squad squad adjacent people.

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Speaker 3: We talked to Greg Kasari yesterday but hadn't seen this yet,

2128
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Speaker 3: obviously because it hadn't happened. But do you get the

2129
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Speaker 3: sense that this divide between Ilhan Omar and AOC is

2130
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Speaker 3: going to be deeper than just these two people, because

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Speaker 3: here's a good tweet from Daniel Lobo. The gap between

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Speaker 3: ilhan Omar and AOC will widen as AOC's larger political

2133
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Speaker 3: ambitions become more clear. So is this about those two

2134
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Speaker 3: or is this about AOC versus the squad at large?

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Speaker 7: Well, if you're thinking of a four person squad, Rashida

2136
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Speaker 7: Tsleeb has not endorsed Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 8: She's not the convention. She was on the list of

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Speaker 8: a Michigan I didn't know she was. She was the

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Speaker 8: Michigan Breakfast today and she was on the list. Shouldn't

2140
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Speaker 8: show up.

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Speaker 7: She's just taking it. She's just taken a much lower

2142
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Speaker 7: kind of cable news profile, so you don't hear as

2143
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Speaker 7: much from her. But clearly like she's with il Han

2144
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Speaker 7: on this. Anna Presley obviously has you know, ambitions like

2145
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Speaker 7: you know, the Massachusetts senator or something like that.

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Speaker 21: And is she was the one who did endorsed Warren

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Speaker 21: and not not Bernie right, yeah, right, not a bitter.

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Speaker 7: Split, but that was so Ilhan also posted this on Twitter,

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Speaker 7: which I think Dave's phrasing of it, this is a

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Speaker 7: choice is good. Like she she went out, she used

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01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 7: the word tirelessly to reflect exactly what Aos said, so

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01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 7: that it would be clear that she's talking about that

2153
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 7: moment and being and specifically saying that you should not

2154
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 7: use what AOC and Bernie said to take the pressure

2155
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 7: off Kamala Harris. So the way she tweeted it is

2156
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 7: Vice President Kamala Harris has an opportunity to demonstrate our

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01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 7: party's courage and commitment to ending the genocide, not just

2158
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 7: in condemning it with words, but an action by conditioning

2159
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 7: aid a better world is possible, but we must have

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01:44:58,360 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 7: the courage to fight for it. And then she puts

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01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 7: the entire clip of her speech at this presser up

2162
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 7: up on Twitter, and her longer argument is the reason

2163
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 7: I find this to be ridiculous, she says, is that

2164
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 7: if you're working tirelessly for a cease fire, all you

2165
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 7: have to do is stop sending the things they're using

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01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 7: to fire, and then the firing will cease.

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01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 8: You don't need to get.

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01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 3: Tired at all, just you don't even need energy.

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01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 2: Any last thoughts from things that you've just observed around

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01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 2: here that I haven't asked you about.

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01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 21: No, the meta question of why they're cool with what

2172
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 21: happened is interesting, and I keep thinking of metaphors that

2173
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:36,839
Speaker 21: probably don't.

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01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:37,759
Speaker 8: Don't like do the whole business.

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01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 21: But it really they were lying to themselves for so long.

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01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 21: They were just lying to themselves that they don't say,

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01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,759
Speaker 21: I'm mind to myself, but lying to themselves that Biden

2178
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 21: was going to beast it out.

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01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 8: It was not a problem. He was going to have

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01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 8: another good debate.

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01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 21: And you saw flashes of that when he spoke Monday

2182
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 21: in the first thirty minutes were fine, and you already

2183
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 21: talked to some Democrats, you had a flash of almost

2184
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 21: like somebody reaching like, well, I have had drink in ten.

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01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 8: Years, but this is a this is a spritzer. I'm fine.

2186
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 21: Really, they they were just and I'm not trying to

2187
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 21: indict everyone, but they were just dishonest about about how

2188
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 21: Biden could win. And they the reason they're so joyous,

2189
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 21: I think is they are now being honest with themselves.

2190
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 21: Not that Kamala Harris will fix everything, but they really did.

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01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 21: I mean I talked to delegates all the time who

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01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 21: you know, they loved Kamala and twenty nineteen, and they

2193
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 21: were just hoping that some days should be better at

2194
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 21: this and they're just they were all in.

2195
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 8: They never really wanted Biden.

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01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 21: We all look through twenty twenty is his consistency people

2197
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 21: who did not want him first but thought they had

2198
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 21: to settle for him. And this is after what's the

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01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 21: long view of this? Twenty sixteen, half of them had

2200
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 21: to settle for Hillary. Twenty twenty, a half of them

2201
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 21: had to settle for Biden. This is the first time

2202
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 21: they said a candidate who is not hobbled runn against

2203
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 21: Donald Trump. We didn't realize we could do this, and

2204
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 21: we we were not being truthful with ourselves. How much

2205
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 21: better this would be. We have not had a we've

2206
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 21: not filled arenas in years. This great, Yeah, I.

2207
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 2: Mean the duel arena thing. We have got to be honest,

2208
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 2: big flex from I regrets. Hey, thank you for stopping by.

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01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 10: Man.

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01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh great, really, we really enjoyed it. Let's go ahead

2211
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 2: and get some questions here in the chat. Here's a

2212
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 2: question for Emily from mac Lynn. Do you think Trump

2213
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 2: will actually enact any populist economic policies if elected?

2214
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 3: I think it would be the same thing as what

2215
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 3: we saw in the last term where there's a war,

2216
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 3: and you'll probably have a good sense of this too.

2217
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 3: There's a war between the JD. Vances and the Mike Pences.

2218
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 3: He's still going to put people like Mike Pompeo in charge,

2219
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 3: and that's there's nuance about how exactly Mike Pompeo is

2220
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 3: he a realist, is he a neo khon? But he

2221
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 3: still you know, has a different take on Ukraine than JD.

2222
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 3: Vance does. So I think it would be a constant battle,

2223
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:46,919
Speaker 3: meaning each side wins a little, but the establishment probably

2224
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 3: wins more because they have home field advantage in the swamp.

2225
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 3: So I think it's it's both people would get a

2226
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 3: little bit. Both sides woul get a little bit, but

2227
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 3: the home field advantage would go.

2228
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 5: To the swamp.

2229
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I thought I think that was good.

2230
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 2: Let's see question when Obama says nicknames. Oh no, I'm

2231
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 2: not asking that one. I'll just say there was a book,

2232
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 2: there was a big mic reference. Okay, Soger will reap,

2233
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm not I'm not going into

2234
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 2: that one. For Sager, What is the best food that

2235
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 2: you've had in Chicago so far? From Orlando.

2236
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 3: This is a good question because you even like we

2237
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 3: actually got you to try what you didn't want to try.

2238
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I tried.

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01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 3: Where do we going to Lume mal Naughtiest to lou

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01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 3: mal Naughties delicious? Look, I love Luemel Natties. I'm just

2241
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 3: I didn't like it.

2242
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:33,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not a deep disguise.

2243
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of gross.

2244
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 3: You got a Caesar salad.

2245
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 2: I got I ate my Caesar. I had my chicken.

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01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 2: You know, I need some vegetables, some fiber and protein.

2247
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 2: And then I said, okay, I'm gonna take a tiny

2248
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 2: little slice out of this thing. It's like cutting a

2249
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 2: freakin pie. You know. It's like I have to like

2250
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 2: use this.

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01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2252
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,639
Speaker 3: Literally, it's so good.

2253
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 2: I thought it was okay.

2254
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 3: I thought it was okay. I'm not gonna lie.

2255
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, We're at barstool, So I'll do

2256
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 2: the Dave Portnoy thing. I would give it.

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01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 3: Let's Ryan did without knowing it five, So give it

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01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 3: a six.

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01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:03,599
Speaker 7: Five.

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01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 3: Ryan asked for a cheese.

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01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 2: He rates. He rates pizza out of ten. He does

2262
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 2: his pizza one byte reviews.

2263
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 5: So you're saying it to six or six five.

2264
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 2: So, yes, it's a point.

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01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 3: It's like a Richter scale. Ryan. Ryan asked specifically for

2266
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 3: a slice of cheese yesterday. I was like, well, you

2267
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 3: don't like pepperoni, and he was like, no, I want

2268
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,639
Speaker 3: to try it without the pepperoni to make my platonic

2269
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 3: form right. And I was like, you realized that's exactly

2270
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 3: the portnoid.

2271
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 7: Style nose onto something.

2272
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 3: There you go, but you were going to say the

2273
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:30,839
Speaker 3: Italian beef that's has been his favorite.

2274
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 2: He's leustioned for producer Mac, what do we need to

2275
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 2: get more lives with the team? Mac? Cue yourself up,

2276
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 2: put yourself on camera.

2277
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 9: What we need to get more lives with the team.

2278
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 9: I mean, I guess that's up to I don't know

2279
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 9: why this question is.

2280
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because I didn't want to talk, dude, I'm getting.

2281
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 3: Tired, right.

2282
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 8: I think we actually were.

2283
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 9: We were talking about that yesterday that we would like

2284
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 9: to do more live So I think it's something we

2285
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 9: definitely should. We should make regular for the breaking points people, Well, it's.

2286
01:49:58,280 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 3: Already pretty regular.

2287
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 2: Here's a question.

2288
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 3: You think, do we do it for the big events? Yeah,

2289
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 3: we do it for the big events.

2290
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 5: Think Bates coming up soon.

2291
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do it for debates.

2292
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 2: We do it for big events.

2293
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 7: I think I think doing the A block in the

2294
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 7: morning live would be.

2295
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 2: In this is Ryan, maybe it can be count okay Ryan,

2296
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm gonna let Ryan that one.

2297
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 3: See if the technical in the in the contracts. Yeah, yeah,

2298
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 3: that's right. All right, let's not us.

2299
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 5: There's a lot of prim's.

2300
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 3: It's more complicated than it sounds.

2301
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's right.

2302
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,639
Speaker 2: I mean, as everyone can witness here. Oh the sound

2303
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 2: doesn't work.

2304
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 3: What about this?

2305
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 2: You got to pull this thing up? So so and

2306
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 2: so came in late.

2307
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 3: It's not so easy.

2308
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 2: So I actually doing this has made me really respect

2309
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 2: the people who like only stream. I totally understand how

2310
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 2: technically difficult it all is. All right, Uh, let's see

2311
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 2: and continue here in the chat question this AOC running.

2312
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 2: I think we kind of answered that yesterday. Ryan, Do

2313
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 2: you hate Dave Matthews since you're a fisherman? I don't

2314
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 2: want there, Like, what's the deal.

2315
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 7: No, Oh, they're actually they're friends. They themselves are friends.

2316
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 7: A lot of the fans are like, think that Dave

2317
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 7: Matthew sucks. Don't think he sucks. But I'm not into

2318
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 7: Dave Matthews.

2319
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:14,599
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, I'm super for what it's worth.

2320
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do you think that there is a chance

2321
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:19,839
Speaker 2: RFK going to the Trump campaign is a net negative

2322
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 2: for Trump with the split between Harris and Fourth parties.

2323
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 2: I am an RFK volunteer and no chance that I

2324
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 2: go to Trump. This is Bucos eleven O two. You know,

2325
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 2: that's an interesting question. So something Dave brought up that

2326
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 2: I have been thinking about now is that RFK you know,

2327
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 2: famously told me. What did he say? He said, there's

2328
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 2: a lot of skeletons in my closet. It's like, and

2329
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 2: if they could all vote, then I would lose in

2330
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 2: the landslide something. The thing is for Trump, if you

2331
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,879
Speaker 2: actively have this guy on your team, it's just a distraction.

2332
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 2: And what do we know about Trump? He hates when

2333
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,799
Speaker 2: the main story is not about him. He hates whenever

2334
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 2: people are talking about things that he then gets attached to.

2335
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 2: Notice how he distanced himself a little bit from JD

2336
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 2: there where he's like, well, you know, nobody votes for

2337
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 2: the vice president, so historically it doesn't matter. In that case,

2338
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 2: I could see Trump kind of getting fed up a

2339
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 2: little bit with RFK. If RFK starts to cause problems

2340
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 2: for him, what do you think, Emily?

2341
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:16,799
Speaker 3: Well, so no, because I think if RFK Junior drops

2342
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 3: out of this really like much hyped third party bid,

2343
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 3: he becomes such a non story that there's no threat.

2344
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 3: He distracts from Donald Trump. And there are enough there are.

2345
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:29,640
Speaker 3: There are a whole lot of people, as we've been

2346
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 3: talking about, that will not go from RFK Junior to Trump,

2347
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 3: but there are enough on the margins to matter, just

2348
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 3: like happened with Jill Stein in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan.

2349
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 3: So I think it's it's only a net benefit. I

2350
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 3: think it's a drag for RFK Junior way more than

2351
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 3: it's a drag for Trump.

2352
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 5: Got it.

2353
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 2: Here's a question for Sager and Emily. Do your right

2354
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 2: wing colleagues and friends think that you are too left

2355
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:52,799
Speaker 2: on any issues? What do you think, Emily?

2356
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 3: Yes?

2357
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 2: What do you know? What I get the most shit

2358
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 2: about is Israel? Oh my god, I can't take it anymore.

2359
01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, for those who are out there,

2360
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 2: stop texting me. I'm text you back and it's annoying.

2361
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,559
Speaker 2: All right, start your own show. I don't give a shit.

2362
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 2: I really don't care what we have to say.

2363
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 3: This is something that people don't realize though, I'll get

2364
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Speaker 3: this off my chest, is that we hear all like

2365
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 3: what we do is different than what most news people do,

2366
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 3: and that we have like honest, open, transparent conversations. Tell

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01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 3: you I actually think, yes exactly, and then you know,

2368
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 3: if we go and agree with Ryan or Crystal on something,

2369
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 3: it takes like for us. Yeah, not that we're heroes,

2370
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 3: but it does, like we take so much a lot,

2371
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 3: just like Ryan and Crystal take flack when they say

2372
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,799
Speaker 3: something that agrees with us. So it's again, it's harder

2373
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 3: than it looks. We happen to for whatever personality reason,

2374
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 3: like we roll with it, but we take way more

2375
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 3: than people I think realize.

2376
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 2: Internally, there's a lot of internal shit. So the left

2377
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot of external there's a lot of like beefing,

2378
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 2: But the right is because it's because the right infrastructure

2379
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 2: is so propped up by billionaires and specifically by employment.

2380
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 2: There is a lot of external conversation that is not

2381
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 2: allowed to occur. A lot of gate there's a lot

2382
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 2: of gatekeeping, and professional gate people are very afraid of

2383
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 2: saying things out of line. And you know, doing this

2384
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:09,719
Speaker 2: job is been very liberating in some respects, but also,

2385
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 2: you know, Emily, we lose access to the system. We

2386
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:15,640
Speaker 2: don't get invited to a lot of the things that

2387
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 2: we used to. I'm very okay with that. I'm genuinely fine.

2388
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 2: Like it's like, oh, I don't get to go to

2389
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 2: the AI annual dinner. I'm not gonna lie. It's nice, Okay,

2390
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 2: it's nice. Like it's a nice place. It's a light Yeah,

2391
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 2: the steak is good. There's like the beautiful little draperies.

2392
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 3: There's a bottomless shelf, you know, champagne.

2393
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 2: You get to take some nice photos when you're twenty five,

2394
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 2: get to put on a tucks you know, it's nice.

2395
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 2: But after a while you're like, well, who's paying for

2396
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 2: all this booze? Right? Like why is this one million

2397
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 2: dollar party? It's okay, you know, so be it. I've

2398
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 2: just made peace with the fact that I don't get

2399
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 2: to do that. But there is an entire set in Washington.

2400
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 2: They live for this. They literally live for the circuit,

2401
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 2: or for the access or in a circle. Ye didn't

2402
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 2: know what did Noam Chomsky says, like you if your

2403
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 2: paycheck depends on something, then it's just very unlikely that

2404
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 2: you will ever sink up. Upton scare. That's right, Upton sync. Yeah,

2405
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 2: that's something that he said something about like a man.

2406
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 7: Very hard to convince somebody of something if their paycheck

2407
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 7: depends on not understanding.

2408
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 2: It exactly right. And look, I mean that's just empirically true.

2409
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 2: I do think a huge amount of the right. It's

2410
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 2: not fair to say they're bought and paid for. It's

2411
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 2: that their economic incentives do not align with them being

2412
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 2: able to say whatever they want to say. So we

2413
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 2: are very unique in that respect, and a lot of

2414
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 2: that invites just a ton of shit because they have

2415
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 2: these like professional enforcers that are just out there.

2416
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 3: But that that is why.

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01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 2: Though my response is always like, hey man, start your

2418
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 2: own thing. Let's see if people want to hear your

2419
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 2: bottled up bull you know, your poll tested bullshit about

2420
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 2: why Israel is the greatest nation on earth, be my guest. Okay,

2421
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 2: go work at the Daily Wire, you know, go for

2422
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 2: it well.

2423
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 3: And one quick point on that is just it looks.

2424
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 3: I think the one thing that our show does that

2425
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 3: other shows don't is that we are actually in Washington,

2426
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 3: d c and we are actually talking to lawmakers, we're

2427
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 3: actually talking to lobbyists, we're actually talking to like movers

2428
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 3: and shakers, power brokers. At the same time, we are

2429
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 3: trying to have open, honest and transparent conversations, and Washington

2430
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:11,840
Speaker 3: is not used to that, so they reflexively will cut

2431
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,840
Speaker 3: off access. They reflexively will try to like dunk on

2432
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 3: you on X. They'll reflexively sort of relegate you to

2433
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 3: the fringe for doing that. So it's a very rare

2434
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 3: combination and I feel like we are like super lucky

2435
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 3: that we're pulling it off. Not just like it's a

2436
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 3: lot of skill from you and Crystal in particular, who've

2437
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 3: paved the path. But it's a new thing and it

2438
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 3: is very It's also harder than it looks because it

2439
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 3: looks like we're just talking. But behind the scenes, what

2440
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 3: you don't see is so much trash being tal.

2441
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah trash yeah, but again, you know, say it behind

2442
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 2: be my guest, Okay, I don't care, like this is

2443
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 2: my thing. I don't care at a certain anymore.

2444
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 1: Which is a lot braver than a most hosts who

2445
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 1: will only go on shows where there's only one opinion,

2446
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: which is like every other show except ours, and I

2447
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 1: think a few others which are then forced to actually

2448
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 1: hear a different opinion.

2449
01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 2: That's very kind, Griffin, thank you well. But look, that's

2450
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 2: a part of the reason why we we actually have

2451
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 2: a successful channel. You know, we built two channels now

2452
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 2: to over a million subscribers. We've brought in these guys.

2453
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 3: We get to travel.

2454
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 2: We have amazing employees, while everybody else has to go

2455
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 2: shake the cup to ask if a certain billionaire will

2456
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 2: sponsor their trip. Yes, please, can I please go to

2457
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 2: the DNC. I don't have to ask anybody that, so

2458
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 2: you know that's there is true freedom, folks, we had

2459
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 2: to ask you, there is true freedom in all of this. Okay,

2460
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 2: let's talk about some of the on the ground stuff

2461
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 2: that we got to do. So this was a lot

2462
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:35,400
Speaker 2: of fun, it's really exciting. So why don't we go

2463
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 2: ahead and start here. We're going to go to some

2464
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 2: of the protest stuff we already talked about, il Han,

2465
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 2: So that's great, Mac. Can you give me a lay

2466
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 2: of the land some of the clips that we have

2467
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 2: that are ready to go in terms of on the ground,

2468
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 2: so I know that, well, we'll say that for the end.

2469
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 2: You know, we promised that there was a huge fight

2470
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 2: between you and between Ryan Graham.

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01:57:55,320 --> 01:58:00,000
Speaker 9: So we have Ryan with the Palestinian. Yeah, uncommitted delegate.

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01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is really good. So as uh, we

2473
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 2: actually interviewed this dude in the We interview this dude

2474
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 2: in the line, and this was really interesting because he

2475
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 2: gives you a real insight into did he help unfurl

2476
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 2: a banner?

2477
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 3: Is it okay?

2478
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 2: So he helped unferle a banner stop arming Israel. This

2479
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 2: guy then is faced with false accusations of violence, and

2480
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 2: they this woman is like, stop touching me, stop touching me,

2481
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 2: starts literally karening like calling the police in the Secret Service,

2482
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 2: trying to get him thrown out of the entire convention.

2483
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 2: And he didn't scream, he didn't do anything. He just

2484
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 2: held up a banner that said stop arming Israel. Uh,

2485
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 2: let's go ahead, Mac and let's cueue up that one.

2486
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:45,839
Speaker 7: Do you remember his name Leano Sharon?

2487
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:49,960
Speaker 2: This Leono Sharon is a Jewish delegate from Michigan. That's

2488
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 2: exactly right. And he's a delegate, remember, and he is

2489
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,839
Speaker 2: a delegate. Yes, he is a delegate to the DNC.

2490
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 2: And listen to the way that he was treated by

2491
01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 2: the DNC. Let's go ahead and let's play it for

2492
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 2: the people.

2493
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 5: Keep you out.

2494
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 8: You didn't break any law. It's like, what did they

2495
01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 8: say to you?

2496
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 18: Sure?

2497
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 16: So the first thing that happened is that the police

2498
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 16: tried to say, you have to leave, and I just said, no,

2499
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 16: I don't have to leave. I'm a delegate. I have

2500
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:16,200
Speaker 16: a right to be here, have a right to hold

2501
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 16: up a sign and protest. I have a right to

2502
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 16: do these things. So I'm not leaving. And they didn't

2503
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 16: force the issue. Actually, the next thing that happened is

2504
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 16: the Secret Service came by and talked to me. They

2505
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 16: said that there was a woman up there that said

2506
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 16: that I had pushed her, that I had, you know,

2507
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 16: shoved her, that I had et cetera.

2508
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 18: And I explained, no, I didn't.

2509
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 16: Do that because I know what the law is and

2510
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 16: I was not interested in having any kind of violence.

2511
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 18: So she stood there blocking my way and I kept.

2512
01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 16: Saying, let me through, let me through, let me through,

2513
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 16: and she said, don't push me, don't push me, don't

2514
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 16: push me.

2515
01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 18: I said, I'm not pushing you, I'm not touching you.

2516
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 16: And she just continued to stand there like that until

2517
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 16: the police came up and told her to let me through.

2518
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 16: So then she let me through and they escorted me

2519
01:59:58,360 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 16: down to the corridor where you saw me.

2520
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 7: Then what happened? That was the last I saw you

2521
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:03,839
Speaker 7: were in You were in the hallway doing media interviews.

2522
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 7: Did they escort you out or what happened next?

2523
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 16: No, they did, they didn't. Actually, actually, the Secret Service

2524
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 16: came by and said, hey, we have this report for

2525
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 16: the woman that said that you pushed her and all

2526
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 16: this kind of stuff. I told them what I just

2527
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 16: told you.

2528
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 18: I know the law. I was not interested in any

2529
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 18: of that.

2530
02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 16: I didn't do any of that, and I'm sure there's

2531
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:24,080
Speaker 16: something on video that shows that I didn't do any

2532
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:27,120
Speaker 16: of that. So, you know, they asked me a couple

2533
02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 16: of questions and and and said, okay, we're cool, thanks

2534
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 16: very much.

2535
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 18: I took a photo of my ID.

2536
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 16: I know I didn't have to show it to them,

2537
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,000
Speaker 16: but you know, I figured, you know, I didn't want.

2538
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:35,880
Speaker 18: To cause a ruckus.

2539
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 22: So nothing from the party, well, the one the one

2540
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 22: thing that came from the party was the guy there

2541
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 22: was a party operative who was like in charge of

2542
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 22: like that section of the seating, and he came by.

2543
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 16: He actually said, you know, I get what you're doing.

2544
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 16: I believe in your free speech, et cetera. I got

2545
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 16: what you're doing. I believe in your free speech, et cetera. Uh,

2546
02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 16: but uh, please don't go back in because you know

2547
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 16: there might be people that would get upsot and try

2548
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:06,360
Speaker 16: to do something.

2549
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:08,880
Speaker 2: This this is the Keith and this. It really bothered

2550
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 2: me listening to this man. He's a delegate, right, he

2551
02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:13,440
Speaker 2: didn't even do anything. And then you have some Karen

2552
02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 2: lady who's like, he's assaulting me violent. Meanwhile they're assaulting him.

2553
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:20,360
Speaker 2: They're hitting him with signs, literally hitting him over the head,

2554
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:23,640
Speaker 2: taking the banner out of his arms. Meanwhile, somebody is

2555
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 2: blocking Ryan's camera as he's a journalist just trying to

2556
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:29,440
Speaker 2: film all of this. They take the lights down and

2557
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,000
Speaker 2: surround them there and by the way, you should have

2558
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 2: seen you know, you could have. You couldn't see it

2559
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 2: all there. People were staring daggers at this dude as

2560
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 2: he was talking to him, and they were mad at him,

2561
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 2: you know, for talking out of turn. So that I

2562
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:43,120
Speaker 2: wanted to give people a stre Yeah, people needed a

2563
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:46,560
Speaker 2: taste of what what it actually is like here in

2564
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:49,640
Speaker 2: terms of how the descent is being handled inside the hall.

2565
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,040
Speaker 3: I mean they are letting him back in, but an

2566
02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 3: elected delegate, but they pulled his ass out.

2567
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy and then accuse him of assault

2568
02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:00,720
Speaker 2: that I mean anyway, I think it is very just

2569
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:02,960
Speaker 2: to highlight, you know, some of what's going on right there,

2570
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:04,280
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Emily, they.

2571
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 7: Pulled So we saw Nadia Ahmad, who was the Florida

2572
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 7: delegate who worked with him on that action. We saw

2573
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 7: her walking in as well. She told me afterwards that

2574
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:14,800
Speaker 7: they actually wouldn't let her on the floor. They pulled

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Speaker 7: her floor pass away. Really wow, which I mean, on

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Speaker 7: the one hand, she's a Florida delegate, she deserves to

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Speaker 7: be there. Uh. And then on the other hand, Mac,

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Speaker 7: what else smuggled in the sign?

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Speaker 9: So we also had the the Julia Luis Dreyfus clip,

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Speaker 9: and we're gonna Ryan and Greg Casar.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, we got the Ryan. We did a

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Speaker 2: walk and talk Aaron Sorkin esque.

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Speaker 3: Actually we thought I was gonna follow. Yeah, you guys

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Speaker 3: going to make a camera woman.

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Speaker 2: She's awesome, man. I think you can spot me on

2586
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Speaker 2: my phone in the background being lazy throughout some of

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Speaker 2: this interview. Mac Let's go ahead and queue this up

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Speaker 2: and let's take a listen. What did you why don't you?

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Speaker 3: Previews?

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Speaker 7: So what we talked to? So it has It has

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Speaker 7: leaked out that Greg Gazar, who is the whip for

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Speaker 7: the Congressional Progressive Caucus, is running to replace Promila Jaya

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Speaker 7: paul As as chair of the caucus. One of the

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Speaker 7: key questions facing the CPC is how much of a

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Speaker 7: fighting force it's going to be and whether it's going

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Speaker 7: to shrink down in size. But running for CPC, you

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02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 7: have there's a catch twenty two. You can't it's it'd

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Speaker 7: be pretty hard to run saying you're going to kick

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Speaker 7: half the membership out because they have to vote for

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Speaker 7: you to beat the chair. So you can kind of

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Speaker 7: watch how he balances the questions about how he's going

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Speaker 7: to how he's going to handle this. But this I

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Speaker 7: think he has a good shot of getting this position,

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Speaker 7: which shows kind of how quickly his star is rising

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Speaker 7: in Congress.

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Speaker 2: Let's roll some of that mac there for the people.

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Speaker 7: So you're running for Congressional Progressive Caucus Chair? What would

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Speaker 7: you do differently? What are you running like? How would

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Speaker 7: you set up the CPC if you won?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think it's less about it's going to be

2611
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Speaker 10: different because based on a variety of scenarios, do we

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Speaker 10: win the White House, do we have a majority in

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Speaker 10: the House, what does the Senate look like? But at

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Speaker 10: the end of the day, I think that we're now

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Speaker 10: in a position where many of the things we've been

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Speaker 10: talking about is progressive issues for a long time, taking

2617
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Speaker 10: on corporate price gallaging and taking on big corporate landlords,

2618
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Speaker 10: restoring voting rights, these things are actually now the core

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Speaker 10: of what we're hearing from the from the Harris Walls campaign,

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Speaker 10: and so I think we have a real chance to say, hey,

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Speaker 10: the progressive position is actually the popular position. A lot

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Speaker 10: of times, you know, progressive members, we've been pushed and said, well,

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Speaker 10: we're not being electorally realistic. I think we're actually not

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Speaker 10: going to be pushing the majority platform, and so I'm

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Speaker 10: really excited about the potential for that. Last thing I'll

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Speaker 10: say on that front is, you know, we've got the

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Speaker 10: Trump tex cuts expiring, and that again is a place

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Speaker 10: where the progressive vision of raising taxes on the wealthiest

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Speaker 10: and the biggest corporations is actually the majoritarian opinion. And

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Speaker 10: so I think bringing the progressive cocks fully into being

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Speaker 10: organized as a block to say, you know what, we're

2632
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Speaker 10: not going to take a bad deal. We're we actually

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Speaker 10: have the vast majority of the voters with us, and

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Speaker 10: we're going to help Harris Wallas administration do something that

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Speaker 10: we haven't been able to do before. I think that'd

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Speaker 10: be really exciting.

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Speaker 7: Well, tax is interesting because if they don't pass anything,

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Speaker 7: then taxes go up, so on the rich, on the rich.

2639
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Speaker 7: The knock on the CPC has always been it's been

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Speaker 7: too big. And when Permilla took over, there was that

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Speaker 7: committee that like I think that was maybe the term

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Speaker 7: before or maybe the term that you started. Yeah, they tightened,

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Speaker 7: tightened requirements. Would you would you do that further? Like

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Speaker 7: should there be more of a litmus test to be

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Speaker 7: in the CPC?

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Speaker 10: Well, you know that's that's really up to the members

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02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 10: to decide it. You know. I think here's here's the thing.

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Speaker 10: When folks say, well, we would like all one hundred

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Speaker 10: members to vote exactly the same fact is we're from

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Speaker 10: one hundred different districts.

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Speaker 7: That's why they say, let's how about a twenty four

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Speaker 7: member subcocus or something like that.

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Speaker 10: Sure, by those twenty four members can vote together already,

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Speaker 10: I think having members, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Break some of this down for us. So what was

2656
02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:16,520
Speaker 2: the most important part of that conversation?

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Speaker 7: So, because Donald Trump used and Paul Ryan and Mitch

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Speaker 7: McConnelly used budget reconciliation to pass his tax cuts, that

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Speaker 7: means they expire after ten years, so you're or so

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Speaker 7: you're you're looking there and there are other tax cuts

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Speaker 7: reconciliation cuts that are coming up, so you're looking toward

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Speaker 7: the future of when you do tax reform again that

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Speaker 7: if Congress doesn't pass anything, that the tax rates all

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Speaker 7: revert back to what they were before the Trump tax cuts,

2665
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Speaker 7: which means that progressives, this is his point that he's making,

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Speaker 7: they actually have leverage because when they're trying to stop

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Speaker 7: the IRA from build back better from passings, it's not

2668
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 7: good enough, it's too Many progressors are like, well, look,

2669
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Speaker 7: it's still oh, seven hundred billion dollars worth of spending.

2670
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:14,400
Speaker 7: When they're trying to stop the Affordable Care Act because

2671
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Speaker 7: it doesn't have a public option for saying, well, this

2672
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Speaker 7: is a trillion dollars and it's going to expand access

2673
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Speaker 7: to people, and progressives always cave under that argument because

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Speaker 7: they're not the Tea Party. They're not the Freedom Caucus.

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Speaker 7: They if they can get half a loaf, eventually they're

2676
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Speaker 7: going to capitulate to that. The dynamic is completely different

2677
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Speaker 7: on taxes because they're like, you know what, screw the

2678
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Speaker 7: Trump tax cuts. Let them all expire. Yes, they'll a

2679
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Speaker 7: little it'll go up a little bit on the middle class,

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Speaker 7: but mostly who will be hit is who benefited the

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Speaker 7: first time around, which was you know, big corporations and

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Speaker 7: the super rich. They'll be the ones that pay. So

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Speaker 7: now you guys have to come deal with us. And

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Speaker 7: so that's the that's the argument that he's he's making

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Speaker 7: there what he said in that clip. He went on

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Speaker 7: to talk about, say, Matt Cartwright, who rep resents the

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Speaker 7: you know, northeast Pennsylvania district that was won by Donald Trump,

2688
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:06,520
Speaker 7: but he supports Medicare for all. He's like a good

2689
02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 7: progressive and he's saying, but look, is Matt Cartwright going

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Speaker 7: to vote the exact same way that I vote in Austin, Texas. No,

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Speaker 7: let's not. Let's be serious. Yes, but we still want

2692
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Speaker 7: populists like Matt Cartwright rather than you know, in the CPC,

2693
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Speaker 7: rather than a blue dog who represents.

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Speaker 3: And that's significant.

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Speaker 7: I'm scrammed.

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Speaker 3: That's a significant clue as to what the makeup of

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Speaker 3: a very important committee would look like in the future.

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Speaker 2: All right, we've te's this clip long enough. Ryan Graham

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Speaker 2: versus Julia Louis Dreyfus.

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Speaker 3: Well here, so Ryan Grim best known for uh not

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Speaker 3: best known, but well known for getting into a scuffle

2702
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Speaker 3: with Jesse Waters at a White House Correspondence Center one time.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't quite get that heated with Julia Louis. But

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Speaker 3: as We're all walking through the media row area and

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Speaker 3: I was like, I think that's Julia Louis Dreyfus, So

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Speaker 3: I kind of double back. I checked him, like that's

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Speaker 3: Julia Louis Dreyfus. And Ryan's like, well, what should we ask?

2708
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:03,120
Speaker 3: And I forget what I said. I think I said

2709
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Speaker 3: something like, is Kamala actually Selena Meyer, which has been

2710
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Speaker 3: debated and in VEEP circles. The creator of VIEP has

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02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:13,480
Speaker 3: said no, she is. But then yeah, of course, and

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Speaker 3: Julialua Drevis wouldn't even she would say the same thing

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Speaker 3: that the creator said. Now Ryan comes up with a

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Speaker 3: brilliant question.

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Speaker 7: Well apparently it's it not even original, but.

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Speaker 3: Oh Okay, but the question is what viep character is

2717
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:29,000
Speaker 3: jd Vance And so Ryan's like, yeah, we can do that,

2718
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Speaker 3: we can do.

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Speaker 7: That answer question.

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Speaker 3: And we're for context. We are in the media section

2721
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:38,160
Speaker 3: of the convention, which is where people go to do

2722
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 3: media interviewers because reporters are swarming it. It's where if

2723
02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 3: you're a reporter, that is where you stand if you're

2724
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 3: hoping to get quotes from different principles.

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Speaker 23: All right, would tease it long enough, Julie, Julie read

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Speaker 23: one quick question for you.

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Speaker 8: That's a real quick question.

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02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:13,400
Speaker 4: One question, the appreciate, thank you.

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Speaker 7: This is the media area, by the way.

2730
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 2: There's the music, dude, you the music.

2731
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 3: You cull the music. This is the media area.

2732
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:25,360
Speaker 5: By the way.

2733
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Speaker 3: Your delivery was so perfect. Your delivery was so perfe

2734
02:10:28,720 --> 02:10:34,560
Speaker 3: and you weren't even trying. I mean, look, it was.

2735
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Speaker 7: Quite it was annoying. It was annoying, supernoying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's like, why are you here?

2737
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 7: Then they kind of acknowledged the point I think leaving them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right.

2739
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:44,720
Speaker 2: Then she decided to leave the media.

2740
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Speaker 3: Woman. I wanted you to say, like, take your hands

2741
02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:49,520
Speaker 3: off me. Yeah, she gave you a nice pat on

2742
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Speaker 3: the shoulder.

2743
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Speaker 2: What you also saw there was Ryan building up the

2744
02:10:52,640 --> 02:10:55,520
Speaker 2: coverage to do it, which I will say as a journalist, Uh,

2745
02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:58,320
Speaker 2: there is a moment that you always have to have

2746
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:01,080
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh man, I'm gonna have to debase myself.

2747
02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 3: But Ryan doesn't have that.

2748
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:04,680
Speaker 2: No, Ryan doesn't hair, which is why I love you.

2749
02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:06,400
Speaker 2: Just you're gonna have to stick your mic in this

2750
02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:09,160
Speaker 2: lady's face and just start barking at her. And here's

2751
02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:10,400
Speaker 2: the thing that actually does work.

2752
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:12,120
Speaker 7: They probably get nine out of ten.

2753
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:14,000
Speaker 2: Times it won't work, but one out of ten sometimes

2754
02:11:14,080 --> 02:11:15,960
Speaker 2: you got something it. Imagine if she'd answered, it would

2755
02:11:15,960 --> 02:11:16,360
Speaker 2: have been good.

2756
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:16,880
Speaker 7: So there you go.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think the Viep storyline is really

2758
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:20,760
Speaker 3: important to this election because we're talking about a woman

2759
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:23,960
Speaker 3: who went from the least popular vice president modern history

2760
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:26,520
Speaker 3: to someone with higher favorability than Donald Trump in the

2761
02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 3: blink of an eye. And she was compared to Viep

2762
02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 3: in the mema verse for literally years and especially it

2763
02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:36,040
Speaker 3: hit the Nadeer just a couple of months enough. He

2764
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:38,880
Speaker 3: has an incredible commit signing. People don't people.

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Speaker 2: Nobody makes a good point, They go, wow, she has

2766
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:45,600
Speaker 2: a real life Amy that's true that lady she us

2767
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Speaker 2: a shark. Well, but that's actually it is one of

2768
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:51,400
Speaker 2: those like Hollywood shocks. Yes, women, yes, but that is

2769
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:52,440
Speaker 2: she'll peel your face off.

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Speaker 3: That's in theory though what she did. She's a she's

2771
02:11:56,120 --> 02:11:58,880
Speaker 3: a wrangler, so that's more of a Mike McClintock. All right,

2772
02:11:59,160 --> 02:12:00,640
Speaker 3: But Mike, is that is job?

2773
02:12:01,160 --> 02:12:03,760
Speaker 2: Just would have answered this. Lady's actually good at her job. Yeah, okay,

2774
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 2: let's move on to the next part. This is a

2775
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:08,800
Speaker 2: fun one. You get a live, live reaction from me

2776
02:12:09,040 --> 02:12:12,120
Speaker 2: on the ground. This is just about how awful logistics

2777
02:12:12,120 --> 02:12:15,720
Speaker 2: have been here at the DNC, A little bit inside baseball.

2778
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:18,240
Speaker 2: But honestly, I think enough now at this point that

2779
02:12:18,280 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 2: we can show you. So what we're about to show

2780
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:22,720
Speaker 2: you actually Emily made me do this clip. It's me

2781
02:12:23,080 --> 02:12:26,400
Speaker 2: in front of context. It's like seven seven thirty. I

2782
02:12:26,440 --> 02:12:30,440
Speaker 2: think whenever this happens, there is all these credentialed people,

2783
02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:34,560
Speaker 2: remember credentialed as in cleared months ago to enter the convention.

2784
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:37,840
Speaker 2: Now they're entering the convention and they are encountering up

2785
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Speaker 2: to two hour lines to get into the venue. And

2786
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Speaker 2: this is not just like people like Parker who we

2787
02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:47,720
Speaker 2: had on our show, right, like young Democrat delegate. We

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02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:52,960
Speaker 2: spot multiple VIPs in this line, desperately in the crowd,

2789
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:56,280
Speaker 2: just waiting to be let into the area so that

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02:12:56,360 --> 02:12:58,800
Speaker 2: they can be let into security, so that they can

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02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 2: be let into the Primetime is coming up fast, Yeah,

2792
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:06,560
Speaker 2: Obama is coming. Primetime is literally coming up like imminently,

2793
02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:08,960
Speaker 2: and they're a good hour and a half two hours

2794
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:11,640
Speaker 2: away from even getting into the arena from the point

2795
02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 2: that you can see, and actually where I am was

2796
02:13:14,200 --> 02:13:16,640
Speaker 2: the midway point of some of these lines. So with

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02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:19,320
Speaker 2: all of that being said, let's listen to my first

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02:13:19,320 --> 02:13:21,600
Speaker 2: field report for breaking points. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 8: So here we are.

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02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:26,120
Speaker 2: This is literally the line to get into the DNC.

2801
02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:29,720
Speaker 2: In fact, it goes all the way down the street

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02:13:29,920 --> 02:13:31,400
Speaker 2: in both directions.

2803
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:33,200
Speaker 3: It's so bad that I just saw.

2804
02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:38,040
Speaker 2: Jim Messina, Obama's twenty twelve campaign manager, literally in the

2805
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:40,840
Speaker 2: middle of the scrum. I can see him right here

2806
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 2: as we speak. Obviously he's fuming at how bad the

2807
02:13:44,640 --> 02:13:47,920
Speaker 2: logistics are here, but a bit of a that's right.

2808
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:51,120
Speaker 7: He left to go work for the Tories in the UK,

2809
02:13:51,240 --> 02:13:51,840
Speaker 7: so sorry, he.

2810
02:13:51,800 --> 02:13:52,560
Speaker 5: Can't get it right.

2811
02:13:52,600 --> 02:13:56,919
Speaker 2: So clearly, even the VIPs, including the former successful Democratic

2812
02:13:56,960 --> 02:14:00,760
Speaker 2: campaign manager, can barely get into the DNC, which tracks

2813
02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:04,920
Speaker 2: with the horrible logistics that we personally have experienced so far.

2814
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,160
Speaker 2: So that's soccer and Jenny reporting for the from the

2815
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:10,000
Speaker 2: field for breaking points totally all right, So there you

2816
02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:11,760
Speaker 2: can see. It was funny. Thank you Emily for forcing

2817
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:13,440
Speaker 2: the mic in my hand and making me do that.

2818
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:14,720
Speaker 2: But it was funny.

2819
02:14:14,760 --> 02:14:15,800
Speaker 7: Had a career in local news.

2820
02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:18,160
Speaker 2: It was genuinely funny watching. I was like, that's Jim

2821
02:14:18,160 --> 02:14:20,040
Speaker 2: Asina and I see him just standing there.

2822
02:14:19,880 --> 02:14:21,920
Speaker 3: Like this, like in a middle crowd.

2823
02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:24,560
Speaker 2: It's desperate to try and get in in all of

2824
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 2: these other He's so big, Yeah, exactly part of the

2825
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:30,160
Speaker 2: reason I saw him and I was like, man, And

2826
02:14:30,200 --> 02:14:32,480
Speaker 2: then we look at the crowds and in both directions

2827
02:14:32,880 --> 02:14:36,000
Speaker 2: around the corner, can we put Michael Tracy's up there.

2828
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:37,720
Speaker 3: Tracy's been doing a good because it's not like, to

2829
02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:40,600
Speaker 3: be clear, it's not just what we saw in one part,

2830
02:14:40,680 --> 02:14:43,200
Speaker 3: like obviously this at these types of things, there are

2831
02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:46,560
Speaker 3: many different entrances that spread out over a big piece

2832
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:50,840
Speaker 3: of Chicago. But everyone is encountering this every day. It

2833
02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:53,720
Speaker 3: wasn't just the first day now it's bleeding into the

2834
02:14:53,720 --> 02:14:56,360
Speaker 3: rest of the week. And so this is what Tracy said.

2835
02:14:56,240 --> 02:14:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's go. So he's yeah, Michael Tracy

2836
02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:01,600
Speaker 2: here has a similar picture. This is actually later after

2837
02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:03,000
Speaker 2: we talk, so you can look at the time code

2838
02:15:03,080 --> 02:15:06,480
Speaker 2: eight thirty pm. He says, I'm legitimately shocked at how

2839
02:15:06,520 --> 02:15:09,680
Speaker 2: catastrophic the logistics of the DNC are. I am talking

2840
02:15:09,720 --> 02:15:11,560
Speaker 2: to an Illinois state Rep who has just given up.

2841
02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get in. This is horrible, he says,

2842
02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:17,360
Speaker 2: pointing out other state reps in line who are stuck

2843
02:15:17,440 --> 02:15:21,720
Speaker 2: in the endless line to nowhere. Multiple other people reported

2844
02:15:21,720 --> 02:15:25,440
Speaker 2: the exact same thing. Let's see from our old report.

2845
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:28,280
Speaker 2: Should we talk to about Oh, there were some lines yesterday.

2846
02:15:28,400 --> 02:15:30,200
Speaker 2: We were wondering if that was just a first one.

2847
02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:32,480
Speaker 2: Can you pull up mac from the old rundown that

2848
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:35,440
Speaker 2: Akela Lacey tweet where she talks about the scene to

2849
02:15:35,480 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 2: get into the United Center is absolute chaos. There is

2850
02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:42,120
Speaker 2: line after line. There are hundreds of people waiting to

2851
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:46,080
Speaker 2: get in one point five hours after programming started. Yeah,

2852
02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:48,040
Speaker 2: look at this, I mean this is crazy.

2853
02:15:48,160 --> 02:15:50,320
Speaker 3: Lines are like outrageous.

2854
02:15:49,840 --> 02:15:52,880
Speaker 2: Exactly, And it's one of those where look, you know,

2855
02:15:52,920 --> 02:15:56,080
Speaker 2: you can forgive one day maybe, but second day it's

2856
02:15:56,080 --> 02:15:57,480
Speaker 2: like the logistics.

2857
02:15:56,920 --> 02:15:59,080
Speaker 3: Are really bad. It was awful too, Mack.

2858
02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:02,360
Speaker 2: You explained to the Chat yesterday about how annoying it

2859
02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:05,400
Speaker 2: was for even for us to get our press credentials.

2860
02:16:05,680 --> 02:16:07,560
Speaker 3: What all of this does tell.

2861
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:10,440
Speaker 2: Us, at least about how the DNC is set up

2862
02:16:10,520 --> 02:16:14,840
Speaker 2: right now is My only impact on this is I

2863
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:18,880
Speaker 2: think Kamala's people are breaking the press to the point

2864
02:16:18,920 --> 02:16:21,840
Speaker 2: where if they don't give them something soon, I think

2865
02:16:21,880 --> 02:16:25,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna freak out because the press are They're also

2866
02:16:25,600 --> 02:16:27,640
Speaker 2: the ones stuck in the lines. I saw Tara Palmiery

2867
02:16:27,680 --> 02:16:30,120
Speaker 2: and a few other people who were all stuck in

2868
02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:33,240
Speaker 2: multiple hour lines just trying to cover the damn convention.

2869
02:16:33,720 --> 02:16:37,680
Speaker 2: I read actually that the DNC is charging double the

2870
02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:41,680
Speaker 2: price to the networks for renting out those booths where

2871
02:16:41,680 --> 02:16:44,520
Speaker 2: they're broadcasting from from inside. I mean, guys, we're talking

2872
02:16:44,560 --> 02:16:47,000
Speaker 2: like six figures just to rent out one of these things.

2873
02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:48,600
Speaker 2: Part of the reason we're here at Barstools Studio.

2874
02:16:48,640 --> 02:16:50,480
Speaker 3: By the way, shout out to dog Walk.

2875
02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you the dog Walk for making sure that

2876
02:16:52,480 --> 02:16:54,720
Speaker 2: we don't just spend one hundred grand just for five days

2877
02:16:54,920 --> 02:16:58,600
Speaker 2: of broadcasting. Then they also have given all of us

2878
02:16:58,959 --> 02:16:59,959
Speaker 2: much fewer passes.

2879
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:00,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

2880
02:17:00,560 --> 02:17:03,280
Speaker 2: Again just to explain like the insanity of all of this.

2881
02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:05,840
Speaker 2: So like we got these press credentials, and even though

2882
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:08,720
Speaker 2: we have six team members, only three of us are

2883
02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:11,520
Speaker 2: even allowed to enter the arena. Which is different than

2884
02:17:11,959 --> 02:17:12,760
Speaker 2: different than the orens.

2885
02:17:12,760 --> 02:17:15,400
Speaker 3: This is different than Milwaukee. In Milwaukee, you had to

2886
02:17:15,440 --> 02:17:17,680
Speaker 3: have like an arena pass to get into that stuff,

2887
02:17:17,680 --> 02:17:20,680
Speaker 3: but there was tons of other stuff outside the arena.

2888
02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:23,520
Speaker 3: There was media row was outside the arena, there were

2889
02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:25,880
Speaker 3: tons of different things, like most of it was going

2890
02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:29,520
Speaker 3: on outside of the arena. Here, almost everything is going

2891
02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:31,840
Speaker 3: on outside the arena. So it is to your point,

2892
02:17:31,879 --> 02:17:34,720
Speaker 3: breaking the press. We've heard from other outlets that, and

2893
02:17:34,760 --> 02:17:37,320
Speaker 3: we've heard from people who couldn't great credentialed. There are

2894
02:17:37,400 --> 02:17:39,199
Speaker 3: names of people. I can't say it because I didn't

2895
02:17:39,200 --> 02:17:40,879
Speaker 3: ask them permission, but there are names of people that

2896
02:17:40,920 --> 02:17:43,760
Speaker 3: you big names that did not get credentialed. People in

2897
02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:46,560
Speaker 3: independent media that absolutely should have been credentialed that didn't

2898
02:17:46,560 --> 02:17:48,800
Speaker 3: get it. We heard the New York Times had a

2899
02:17:48,800 --> 02:17:50,760
Speaker 3: shockingly small amount of seats.

2900
02:17:50,879 --> 02:17:53,040
Speaker 2: It's not just them too, you know. To the independent point,

2901
02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:55,880
Speaker 2: And this is kind of the corollary to this. If

2902
02:17:55,920 --> 02:17:58,600
Speaker 2: you are Harry Sisson, life is good right now.

2903
02:17:58,640 --> 02:17:58,760
Speaker 8: You know.

2904
02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:00,959
Speaker 2: If you're one of those influences, you have a little

2905
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:04,039
Speaker 2: DNC handler who follows you around everywhere. They had a

2906
02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:07,200
Speaker 2: custom lounge with wine and cheese and seats. Yeah, we

2907
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:09,119
Speaker 2: don't even have anywhere to sit whenever we go into

2908
02:18:09,160 --> 02:18:11,840
Speaker 2: the DNC. They've got a little stage that they have

2909
02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:15,320
Speaker 2: erected inside the DNC that we're not allowed to When

2910
02:18:15,360 --> 02:18:18,280
Speaker 2: I go on the floor, I am sitting there being

2911
02:18:18,320 --> 02:18:21,199
Speaker 2: harassed by multiple people who are like, you gotta keep moving.

2912
02:18:21,320 --> 02:18:23,760
Speaker 2: You got to keep moving, by the way, and oh,

2913
02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:25,879
Speaker 2: you've only got fifteen minutes left on the clock where

2914
02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:28,879
Speaker 2: you're allowed to be here on the floor. And it's

2915
02:18:28,879 --> 02:18:30,680
Speaker 2: not just me, it's like people who work at CNN,

2916
02:18:31,080 --> 02:18:33,119
Speaker 2: all these other people who are being trolled like this.

2917
02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:37,040
Speaker 2: Whereas Hassan Piker and Harry and all of these other

2918
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:40,840
Speaker 2: like TikTokers like guy literally doing dancing moves in the

2919
02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:44,680
Speaker 2: Creator studio, He's allowed on the floor however long you want. So,

2920
02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:46,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying it's pretty clear where they

2921
02:18:46,879 --> 02:18:49,840
Speaker 2: think that their bread is being buttered. But I do

2922
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:52,560
Speaker 2: think it will backfire in terms of like, when you

2923
02:18:52,600 --> 02:18:54,920
Speaker 2: treat the press like shit, they're gonna start pressing you

2924
02:18:54,959 --> 02:18:56,760
Speaker 2: a little bit. I mean, you had Dave in here. David,

2925
02:18:56,920 --> 02:18:58,720
Speaker 2: he's more forthcoming than most, and he's like, yeah, they

2926
02:18:58,720 --> 02:18:59,400
Speaker 2: gotta ask questions.

2927
02:18:59,400 --> 02:19:00,000
Speaker 3: This is ridiculus.

2928
02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:03,400
Speaker 7: It's it's interesting, uh that they're treating Hassan as well

2929
02:19:03,440 --> 02:19:05,840
Speaker 7: as you are, considering how critical he is of Democrats,

2930
02:19:05,840 --> 02:19:09,480
Speaker 7: but they recognize his audience. By the way, a little

2931
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:13,560
Speaker 7: bit of news here, that's why Ryan was so Naia

2932
02:19:13,840 --> 02:19:17,199
Speaker 7: Amad sent me a document that was came in crooked.

2933
02:19:17,320 --> 02:19:24,160
Speaker 7: So uh, she looks she's filing charges against uh, the

2934
02:19:24,280 --> 02:19:26,640
Speaker 7: people who were the guy was whacking her with the

2935
02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:32,520
Speaker 7: UH with the Joe Biden we Love Biden.

2936
02:19:31,640 --> 02:19:34,760
Speaker 5: For people who might have missed that what happened. So uh.

2937
02:19:35,040 --> 02:19:39,920
Speaker 7: Nadia Ahmad and was one of the protesters on Monday

2938
02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:44,080
Speaker 7: night who held up the stop Arming Israel UH banner.

2939
02:19:44,480 --> 02:19:46,720
Speaker 7: And while she was holding it up, there's there's video

2940
02:19:46,720 --> 02:19:49,600
Speaker 7: that you can see where she's getting whacked by a

2941
02:19:49,720 --> 02:19:53,480
Speaker 7: we Love Biden sign, which is you know, the long

2942
02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:56,840
Speaker 7: cardboard poll, which is you know has its own warriors,

2943
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:59,600
Speaker 7: own dark poetry to it. Of course, Uh, she has.

2944
02:20:00,280 --> 02:20:03,240
Speaker 7: She's just sent me the charging document where she is

2945
02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:07,440
Speaker 7: looks like she's filing charges. I don't think that that

2946
02:20:07,520 --> 02:20:11,560
Speaker 7: we have completely successfully identified the person, but I think,

2947
02:20:12,400 --> 02:20:15,320
Speaker 7: you know, he's on video, Like eventually we'll find out

2948
02:20:15,320 --> 02:20:19,720
Speaker 7: who he is. I don't know. So anyway, well we'll

2949
02:20:19,720 --> 02:20:21,119
Speaker 7: follow here, we go, we go.

2950
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:23,200
Speaker 2: If that happens, all right, Should we take more questions?

2951
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we do want to get back out

2952
02:20:25,080 --> 02:20:27,600
Speaker 1: to the field more field reporting, sodent bring clips to

2953
02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:30,480
Speaker 1: you guys tomorrow. We are sorry that Crystal got her

2954
02:20:30,520 --> 02:20:33,320
Speaker 1: flight delayed. We're gonna try to grab some stuff with

2955
02:20:33,360 --> 02:20:36,040
Speaker 1: Crystal at the d n C tonight. Yeah, and then

2956
02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:38,120
Speaker 1: we'll be around tomorrow as well. But I think we'll

2957
02:20:38,120 --> 02:20:41,000
Speaker 1: do some more questions for our locals live chat before

2958
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:41,840
Speaker 1: we get on at it.

2959
02:20:41,879 --> 02:20:45,480
Speaker 2: Crystal is finally in the air, so we can en

2960
02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:48,320
Speaker 2: route somewhere somewhere in clouds.

2961
02:20:48,480 --> 02:20:51,200
Speaker 3: This is how we felt about you, Producer Griffin. Yeah,

2962
02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:53,199
Speaker 3: we were just it was like a Plans trains.

2963
02:20:53,879 --> 02:20:56,360
Speaker 2: Technical or the flight nightmares that we have all had.

2964
02:20:56,400 --> 02:20:58,039
Speaker 7: As soon as you get in the air, when we

2965
02:20:58,080 --> 02:20:59,720
Speaker 7: wrap this, I'm headed over to the arena. I'm going

2966
02:20:59,760 --> 02:21:01,680
Speaker 7: to do Hassan stream for a little bit, so are you.

2967
02:21:01,760 --> 02:21:04,400
Speaker 7: So if anybody's watching and they do, and they're watching both,

2968
02:21:04,920 --> 02:21:06,720
Speaker 7: just tell the tell the Hassan Chat that I'll be

2969
02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:08,680
Speaker 7: there and maybe like forty five minutes, depending on how

2970
02:21:08,720 --> 02:21:09,320
Speaker 7: bad this carry.

2971
02:21:09,400 --> 02:21:12,360
Speaker 2: Somebody up to the chat, take our from somebody from

2972
02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:15,280
Speaker 2: our chat, update the Hassan chat, appreciate and help some

2973
02:21:15,320 --> 02:21:17,720
Speaker 2: people to come over here and buy some subscriptions to us.

2974
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:20,680
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, let's last thing, by the way, last time,

2975
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:22,600
Speaker 2: we're going to take some questions here before we roll

2976
02:21:22,640 --> 02:21:25,480
Speaker 2: out from our premium subscribers. Don't forget. You can become

2977
02:21:25,760 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 2: a premium subscriber one month free trial DNC free at

2978
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:34,000
Speaker 2: breakingpoints dot com. What have we got in the chat

2979
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:36,240
Speaker 2: right now? Sager? Are we ever going to get a

2980
02:21:36,320 --> 02:21:39,480
Speaker 2: JD interview? I have asked and I will keep everybody updated.

2981
02:21:39,640 --> 02:21:42,000
Speaker 2: The thing is is that no, no disrespect to JD.

2982
02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:43,600
Speaker 2: But I was like, I want you know you're going

2983
02:21:43,640 --> 02:21:48,440
Speaker 2: to prioritize so but we're working on that. For counterpoints, sure, yeah,

2984
02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:51,040
Speaker 2: you can have them, all right, So I'll put it

2985
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:53,080
Speaker 2: this way. If I can get Trump, that's all I

2986
02:21:53,120 --> 02:21:56,160
Speaker 2: really care about. So we're working on it. There's a

2987
02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:59,360
Speaker 2: lot of negotiations, a lot of text messaging and all

2988
02:21:59,400 --> 02:22:01,640
Speaker 2: that stuff that behind the scenes, just to give people

2989
02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:03,800
Speaker 2: a little bit of a taste of how difficult it

2990
02:22:03,879 --> 02:22:05,200
Speaker 2: is to nail one of these things down.

2991
02:22:05,240 --> 02:22:08,400
Speaker 3: To be clear, what I just called you a douche?

2992
02:22:09,040 --> 02:22:09,360
Speaker 3: Did you?

2993
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:10,360
Speaker 5: I just hope?

2994
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:13,400
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a joke. It's a joke. It's a joke.

2995
02:22:13,440 --> 02:22:15,199
Speaker 3: Why do you have to say that? That's what people

2996
02:22:15,320 --> 02:22:15,960
Speaker 3: wanted to know you?

2997
02:22:16,360 --> 02:22:16,800
Speaker 8: Sometimes?

2998
02:22:16,800 --> 02:22:19,000
Speaker 3: You know, I get comment sometimes being like I'm like,

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Speaker 3: it's like unprofessional.

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Speaker 2: Stop reading the ship.

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Speaker 3: Alright, I know he always saw what do you do? Okay?

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, but anyway, it's all in good fun.

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Speaker 3: Everybody calm, everyone relaxes, Everyone relax.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's see what else do we get here.

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Speaker 2: What do you think Bill Clinton will have to say?

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Speaker 2: That's that's a good question. I don't actually know.

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Speaker 7: What's a question?

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Speaker 2: What will Bill Clinton say? So Bill Clinton is the

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Speaker 2: primetime speaker, He's going to introduce Tim Walls tonight. I

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Speaker 2: read Jonathan Martin column in Politico this morning about how

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Speaker 2: they are hoping that Bill can kind of activate white

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02:22:54,560 --> 02:22:57,600
Speaker 2: working class voters to get them to come out. What

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Speaker 2: do you think.

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Speaker 7: What I've heard from people close to Bill is that

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Speaker 7: he is in a place where he has some good

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Speaker 7: days and some bad days. Yeah like that. He looks

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Speaker 7: great physically.

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Speaker 3: But he's old.

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Speaker 7: Just just performance wise, there are there are times where

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Speaker 7: he just really struggles, uh, and there are other other times.

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Speaker 7: Anybody who knows utterly people knows that this is the case.

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Speaker 7: You have good days and you have bad days. That

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Speaker 7: on his bad days, it's pretty bad, uh, And that

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Speaker 7: it's going to need to be extremely quiet in the arena.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 7: He's always had a bit of that hoarse voice. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: but now it has degenerated into a real whisper, and

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Speaker 7: so I think it's going to be a challenge to

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Speaker 7: kind of hear him.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that he had such bad health problem.

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Speaker 3: He's seventy eight, born in nineteen, so.

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Speaker 7: He's not he's not that old like you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he remember it, didn't you have a quadruple bypass.

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Speaker 2: He famously didn't eat a vegetable for.

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Speaker 3: The entire time. He loved that McDonald's. He love McDonald's. McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's see what else that we have got in here.

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Speaker 3: But also loved the jog.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see right, never mind, I'm not even

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Speaker 2: going in. It's just stupid questions about marijuana, which at

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Speaker 2: a certain point guys like, can you just drop it? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's yeah, exactly, like can we get a new bit

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Speaker 2: from people? Uh, let's see, will you guys ever do

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Speaker 2: a West Coast show? We're not sure yet. It's not

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Speaker 2: currently on the calendar. One last question, come on from

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Speaker 2: our from our premium subscribers. You guys got to give us.

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Speaker 2: So I'm making jokes about some some missteps that I

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Speaker 2: might have used in my language about primary elections and

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Speaker 2: something else that I might have said. Let's actually get

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Speaker 2: a question that is in here. Okay, Emily and Kamala,

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Speaker 2: if you were in a Kamala administration, what would you try?

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Speaker 2: And now I'm getting too many questions, damn people, And

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Speaker 2: what would you try and pass? And Ryan, if you

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Speaker 2: were in a Trump administration, what would you try and pass?

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Speaker 2: This is from nice nice zezer. Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: It would be for me, it would be like Lena

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Speaker 3: Khan antitrust big tech, breaking up big tech. But also

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Speaker 3: so some of the Jonathan Height redesign, like pushing for

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Speaker 3: redesign of social media apps that are targeted at children

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Speaker 3: and adults.

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Speaker 2: Too interesting, right, all that, what would you.

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Speaker 7: Want to Trump break up the banks?

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Speaker 2: To Trump's not gonna break up the banks? What would

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Speaker 2: you realistically get out?

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Speaker 7: Oh really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well okay, I would.

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Speaker 7: I would try to So for like forty years, we

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Speaker 7: had a bipartisan consensus on basically neoliberalism. If you went

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Speaker 7: from Reagan to Clinton to Bush to George Trump by

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Speaker 7: Bush whatever, like the kind of regulation of corporations stayed

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Speaker 7: about the same same people, like the Commission's SEC and

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Speaker 7: what other you know, FTC, it would change control of

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Speaker 7: which party had it, but it was they all vote

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Speaker 7: for the same thing. What I'd love to see is

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Speaker 7: a new bipartisan kind of stranglehold on that where basically

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Speaker 7: Holly and JD can can like basically run the nomination

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Speaker 7: process for Republican commissioners so that even even if even

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Speaker 7: if you the parties change hands, you're still getting aggressive

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Speaker 7: anti trust enforcement and that's and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: I really wish that that happens. I also am very

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Speaker 2: cynical if it does. I can't get my hopes up

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Speaker 2: about any of these things. Okay, I think that will

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