1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Odd Couple podcasts.

2
00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200
Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from

3
00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,400
Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern

4
00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The

5
00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520
Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream

6
00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,639
Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR.

7
00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,120
Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.

8
00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,920
Speaker 3: Pablo Tory finds out they've been doing some great work

9
00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,560
Speaker 3: with that podcast.

10
00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,000
Speaker 4: A lot of investigated reporting.

11
00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,400
Speaker 5: Can I tell you this, yie for people don't know,

12
00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,280
Speaker 5: there are a million stories if you're willing to read lawsuits.

13
00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,919
Speaker 5: When I worked to the Cincinnai Inquiry, we had a guy,

14
00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,720
Speaker 5: a reporter. His job was to read through lawsuits. Like

15
00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,080
Speaker 5: you know, you go to public record, you beat me

16
00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,200
Speaker 5: to it. Those are public It's are public records, rob

17
00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,920
Speaker 5: g And if you're willing to read through them, names

18
00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,040
Speaker 5: come up all.

19
00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,840
Speaker 4: Kinds of This is how you break stories.

20
00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,000
Speaker 5: But a lot of companies don't invest in that, but

21
00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,800
Speaker 5: investigative that's how you get.

22
00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,000
Speaker 3: And so shout out to Pablo and his staff for

23
00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,759
Speaker 3: reading through the lawsuit as it relates to this company

24
00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,640
Speaker 3: called Aspiration. All right, one of their co founders, Joseph Sandberg,

25
00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,160
Speaker 3: pled guilty to defrauding multiple investors. In the filing, they

26
00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,920
Speaker 3: noticed a list of creditors to which the company still

27
00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,960
Speaker 3: owed money. Listed among them was something called k l

28
00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,119
Speaker 3: to Aspire LLC, a corporation that shows Kawhi Leonard as

29
00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,440
Speaker 3: its manager. The filing show that Aspiration still owes Kawhi

30
00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,720
Speaker 3: seven million dollars. What's interesting about that is that according

31
00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,600
Speaker 3: to the reporting, Kawhi did not have a single endorsement

32
00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,280
Speaker 3: or mention of Aspiration during the lifetime of his quote

33
00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,440
Speaker 3: unquote deal, and in fact, in the document which is

34
00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,080
Speaker 3: signed by Kawhi Leonard which they uncovered, it shows that

35
00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,000
Speaker 3: Kawhi was paid or to be paid twenty eight million

36
00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,760
Speaker 3: dollars over a course of four years. Here's the kicker,

37
00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,320
Speaker 3: though only if he was still paying playing for the

38
00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,040
Speaker 3: Clippers now. Pablo went on to interview several people who

39
00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,520
Speaker 3: worked for the company, and one of the employees in

40
00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,600
Speaker 3: the finance department set on the podcast quote the deal

41
00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,560
Speaker 3: was to circumvent the salary caps. Here it is in summary,

42
00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,800
Speaker 3: Allegedly Steve Balmer and the La Clippers paid Kawhi Leonard

43
00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,239
Speaker 3: twenty eight million dollars under the table to circumvent the

44
00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,959
Speaker 3: salary cap to get him to Los Angeles.

45
00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,400
Speaker 5: So they also found out that Balmer had put fifty

46
00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,480
Speaker 5: million dollars into that company that went on.

47
00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the connection. You put money in there. He's

48
00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,840
Speaker 1: tied to it all of a sudden, and we all wonder.

49
00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,799
Speaker 1: You bring it up all the time.

50
00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,320
Speaker 4: You and I have the.

51
00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,320
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard conversation, Like he didn't go to the Lakers.

52
00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,079
Speaker 1: You know, I thought he could go play with a But.

53
00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,160
Speaker 5: I still don't think he wanted to be a part

54
00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,240
Speaker 5: of that. I don't think that had you know, the money.

55
00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,680
Speaker 5: Of course, Sweden is the deal, but to be I

56
00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,959
Speaker 5: don't think because he would have had an easier life

57
00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,079
Speaker 5: going there, could have won a lot of championships. Lebron

58
00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,680
Speaker 5: Ad and Kywalker and Kawhi. You know what I'm saying,

59
00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,760
Speaker 5: But go ahead, I'm just twenty eight million dollars. It's crazy.

60
00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,760
Speaker 5: I want to say.

61
00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,239
Speaker 1: That tomorrow think about it, and after this case comes

62
00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,480
Speaker 1: out and both of us are Frans. Kawhi when he's healthy,

63
00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,880
Speaker 1: he's one of the best. He ain't never healthy, but

64
00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,960
Speaker 1: the silent killer he has been the silent assassin that

65
00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,600
Speaker 1: has been getting away with murder. He's just lay low

66
00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,760
Speaker 1: in the cut, don't say much, don't speak up, doesn't

67
00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,440
Speaker 1: necessarily its social justice. If it's this, if it's NBA,

68
00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,040
Speaker 1: if it's beef, if it's drama, he stays out the way.

69
00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,880
Speaker 1: And for most parts we kind of okay with that.

70
00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,520
Speaker 1: You like that because he stays out of the drama,

71
00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,240
Speaker 1: he stays out of the fray. But the silent assassin

72
00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,760
Speaker 1: has been getting away with murderful little things, like, for instance,

73
00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,000
Speaker 1: with the Spurs that has been one of the most

74
00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,560
Speaker 1: tight knick groups in all of sports the last twenty

75
00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,080
Speaker 1: five thirty years. But Kawhi's there Finals VP, things get

76
00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,440
Speaker 1: a little rocky, him and Uncle Dennis going at it

77
00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,920
Speaker 1: with the company, with the organization. There's beef, there's drama.

78
00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,520
Speaker 1: We don't know who's lying, he's heying, he's injured. They're

79
00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,040
Speaker 1: saying you should be back by now. Eventually they trade him,

80
00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,800
Speaker 1: they don't get anything for and then he goes and

81
00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,600
Speaker 1: he leaves. He goes to Toronto. They had to give

82
00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,600
Speaker 1: up Damarrow and now he's there and they win. But

83
00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,280
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm out. Other people we might have said, dang,

84
00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,920
Speaker 1: why would you leave this team. You got something going on.

85
00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,560
Speaker 1: It might have been more back class, but it's Kawhi.

86
00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,840
Speaker 4: We let it roll. It's no big deal. You know

87
00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,080
Speaker 4: what the taxes are on Canada. You know, no, very hot.

88
00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,240
Speaker 4: Most people don't want to play there. Very hot. All right.

89
00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,960
Speaker 1: So then now he's back to the States, goes to

90
00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,360
Speaker 1: the Clippers. And now we have a large reason why

91
00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,440
Speaker 1: that's twenty eight million dollars. Oh and mind you, if

92
00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,600
Speaker 1: you look up the dictionary, go ahead, look it up.

93
00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,640
Speaker 4: Go look up load management. Kawhi is there.

94
00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,679
Speaker 1: So between load management, the way he left the Spurs,

95
00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000
Speaker 1: who left the Raptors, now we find out twenty eight

96
00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,279
Speaker 1: million with the Clippers. I'm like Kawhi, the silent assassin,

97
00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,719
Speaker 1: which it pays to stay out, the fraid to be quiet,

98
00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,320
Speaker 1: has been getting away with a lot rob and again

99
00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,120
Speaker 1: this old will for see how this works out. This

100
00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,080
Speaker 1: happened again with Minnesota some years ago, back in the

101
00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,560
Speaker 1: nineties with Joe Smith and the league find them first

102
00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,560
Speaker 1: round picks and all that. We don't know what's gonna

103
00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,040
Speaker 1: happen with this. Obviously, investigations have to ensume blah blah blah.

104
00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,200
Speaker 1: But more so for me, on Kawhi. It's like, all right,

105
00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,120
Speaker 1: I see you. There's a lesson to be learned. Be quiet,

106
00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,919
Speaker 1: shut up, Leo. I'll stay out without the press and

107
00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,920
Speaker 1: all that. And you can get away with a lot.

108
00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,279
Speaker 1: Because anybody else rob who's done somebody half of the

109
00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,279
Speaker 1: things out made we would they would be getting blasted

110
00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,400
Speaker 1: for said thing.

111
00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,600
Speaker 5: I disagree. I totally disagree. This has not This is

112
00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,880
Speaker 5: not a Kawhi deal. Kawhi can't write that deal in contract.

113
00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,760
Speaker 5: If his people approached Steve Balmer and the Clippers with

114
00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,280
Speaker 5: this could be like, hey, we got a bide by

115
00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,279
Speaker 5: NBA rule. He didn't write the contract for himself. They

116
00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,240
Speaker 5: were willing to do it. It's like a guy cheating

117
00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:52,279
Speaker 5: with the married woman. Right, I'm single, she's married. Who's

118
00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,320
Speaker 5: the onus on the one who has a commitment with

119
00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,839
Speaker 5: the husband? Right, you're married, You've made a commitment. I'm

120
00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,719
Speaker 5: just how many times no, no, no, I'm just trying

121
00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,479
Speaker 5: to say, Kawhi, you can go ahead.

122
00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,000
Speaker 6: The Clippers are here, they know the rules that they're

123
00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,680
Speaker 6: circumventing a cap that's set up for the teams to

124
00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,279
Speaker 6: be able to sign players to put this on Kawhi.

125
00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,479
Speaker 5: Now I'm not saying he's without blame, that he knew

126
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,200
Speaker 5: this was going on and all that, But this has

127
00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,479
Speaker 5: to be he can't make the deal and force the

128
00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,520
Speaker 5: Clippers to break the rules and circumvent the cap. They

129
00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,120
Speaker 5: have to be willing to be a part participant in

130
00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,680
Speaker 5: it and be able to fund this other company.

131
00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,960
Speaker 4: This is on the Clippers, not on Kawhi and the stuff.

132
00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,960
Speaker 5: You're you know, you're giving him a hard time about

133
00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,720
Speaker 5: what went on in San Antonio. It's obvious he's been

134
00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,440
Speaker 5: hurt and he didn't buy into what they were doing.

135
00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,120
Speaker 5: I don't think Kawhi won two championships right his whole

136
00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:51,920
Speaker 5: You think he.

137
00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,039
Speaker 4: Doesn't want to play, don't.

138
00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,599
Speaker 5: I don't buy for one second Kawhi doesn't want to

139
00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,359
Speaker 5: play or has faked any of his injuries or anything.

140
00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,320
Speaker 5: I think that I has really suffered and had issues

141
00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,080
Speaker 5: athletically because it makes no sense when he plays. He's tremendous.

142
00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,960
Speaker 5: There's no reason. He's a young guy. So I don't

143
00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,160
Speaker 5: buy into that. Okay, I don't buy into what went

144
00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,280
Speaker 5: on a San Antonio.

145
00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:16,960
Speaker 4: I don't buy into this.

146
00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,600
Speaker 5: This is not on him, and I love that Kawhi

147
00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,480
Speaker 5: did not go to the stacked team when he had

148
00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,440
Speaker 5: a chance that I am, but I said that showed

149
00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,120
Speaker 5: me a lot.

150
00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,720
Speaker 1: You are not at ross right now, because if you

151
00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,240
Speaker 1: are at ross, you'll be buying up everything you clearly

152
00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to buy the fact that I'm not

153
00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,239
Speaker 1: saying Kawhi Leonard has been injured.

154
00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,360
Speaker 4: We all know that. But other guys, what will we

155
00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,520
Speaker 4: be saying? Man? You got a man up, you got

156
00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:42,800
Speaker 4: to push.

157
00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,000
Speaker 5: It was criticized big time by by uh Tim Dunkan

158
00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,240
Speaker 5: now who is it? Tony Parker and man Genobi came

159
00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,880
Speaker 5: out publicly and questioned his health, which you know that's

160
00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,240
Speaker 5: a code against players.

161
00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,960
Speaker 4: You don't know my pain's that sounded like about the

162
00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,360
Speaker 4: be a Negro spirit. You don't know my page, what

163
00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,080
Speaker 4: I've been through. You don't know how I feel underneath

164
00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,240
Speaker 4: my skin. Who are you to tell me this is

165
00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,360
Speaker 4: an amazing blue song?

166
00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:10,560
Speaker 7: Right?

167
00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is I'm not done with you.

168
00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,000
Speaker 1: You you not buying anything again. We know that guys

169
00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000
Speaker 1: are injured, We know that guys are heard at times.

170
00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,840
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard plays when he wants to play. He's gotten

171
00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,960
Speaker 1: away with it, not mad, That's why we said it.

172
00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,120
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard again, the Spurs have been tight knit. We

173
00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,400
Speaker 1: don't hear nothing of really coming from Demartin Rose and

174
00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,840
Speaker 1: left the team still singing their praises. Everybody leaves and

175
00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,640
Speaker 1: sing the praises. Kawhi the only one that has issue. Kawhi,

176
00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,520
Speaker 1: you got me get back to you this twenty eight

177
00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,560
Speaker 1: million dollars. You do know he's in the NBA PA right,

178
00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,680
Speaker 1: He's a part of the Player Association, which means he

179
00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,640
Speaker 1: has to buy it by the CBA, which means he

180
00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:43,880
Speaker 1: has to.

181
00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,800
Speaker 4: Buy by it. Brother, you can't get twenty eight million.

182
00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:46,520
Speaker 4: That was on the side.

183
00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,000
Speaker 5: But I can't sign his own contract. Come on, now,

184
00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,840
Speaker 5: you can't he literally signs it.

185
00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,600
Speaker 4: No, he can't. The team has to be handcot stopping.

186
00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,800
Speaker 1: Kawhises always have braids on the clippers.

187
00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,920
Speaker 4: They get some of the smoke, They get all of

188
00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:02,480
Speaker 4: the smoke.

189
00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,800
Speaker 5: Because all they have to do is if that was

190
00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,480
Speaker 5: the way it was presented, they could have said no, no, no,

191
00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,040
Speaker 5: this is against the cap.

192
00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,880
Speaker 1: That's not what the present I'm not saying they did

193
00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,640
Speaker 1: present it. I'm saying they go to him and say,

194
00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,200
Speaker 1: hey man, we found a way around it. Here's twenty

195
00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,079
Speaker 1: eight million for this week Win Company, He says, cool,

196
00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,600
Speaker 1: all right, signs on.

197
00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,960
Speaker 5: Dude, You think you think this is the only person

198
00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,079
Speaker 5: that's been circumvented a cap in pro sports?

199
00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,160
Speaker 1: Oh nonota no, no, no, no, no no.

200
00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,080
Speaker 5: You're talking about two that you caught. There are other

201
00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,880
Speaker 5: teams and other players that they not, So no doubt about.

202
00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,640
Speaker 4: The only reason you know.

203
00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,080
Speaker 5: The only way you know about this is because of

204
00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,480
Speaker 5: the documents that are public record. The only reason you

205
00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,040
Speaker 5: knew about Barry Bonds is because of Bouco and when

206
00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,600
Speaker 5: they uncovered the records.

207
00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,320
Speaker 4: If you didn't know that the same thing, you wouldn't

208
00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,439
Speaker 4: know that. I wouldn't know anything until I know it.

209
00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:56,840
Speaker 8: I know.

210
00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,040
Speaker 5: But I'm trying to say that this goes on. This

211
00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,160
Speaker 5: is not a think think this is a Kawhi Leonard.

212
00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,400
Speaker 1: I think this is a joonas slippers fliers just got caught. Okay,

213
00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,800
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard was the guy. Could have been Chris pulkuld

214
00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,439
Speaker 1: have been anybody, but this Kawhi Leonard, And I love

215
00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,720
Speaker 1: saying is Kawhi? Do we not bring him up enough?

216
00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

217
00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,400
Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio

218
00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,640
Speaker 2: dot com. And within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

219
00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:26,439
Speaker 2: listen live.

220
00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,600
Speaker 9: Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben

221
00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,719
Speaker 9: Maller along with my trustee sidekick David Gascon. Would mean

222
00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,480
Speaker 9: a lot to have you join us on our weekly

223
00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,600
Speaker 9: auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name is the

224
00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,960
Speaker 9: Fifth Hour? I'll tell you it's a spin off of

225
00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,160
Speaker 9: the Ben Maler Show, a cult hit overnights on FSR.

226
00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,080
Speaker 9: Why should you listen? Picture if you will, a world

227
00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,040
Speaker 9: where we chat with captains of industry in media, sports

228
00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,840
Speaker 9: and more every week explore.

229
00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,400
Speaker 4: Some amazing facts about human nature and more.

230
00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,439
Speaker 9: Listen to The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller on the

231
00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,440
Speaker 9: iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

232
00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,320
Speaker 1: Joining us now, Reck Milker f S one NB host

233
00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,079
Speaker 1: on the Ball podcast, Rick, what's up man?

234
00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:05,880
Speaker 4: What's happening?

235
00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,880
Speaker 7: What's happening? Gentlemen?

236
00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,040
Speaker 5: So tell me about the dummy company that Fox Sports

237
00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,839
Speaker 5: one had set up for you so that you can

238
00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,720
Speaker 5: make more money than Skip Bayless. Oh, how we only

239
00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,920
Speaker 5: wish that's.

240
00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,679
Speaker 7: The dream for all of us. Right, and I mean

241
00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,240
Speaker 7: the jokes kind of right themselves. When it comes to Kawhi,

242
00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,400
Speaker 7: he's getting paid double not to do anything like it

243
00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,360
Speaker 7: with we were already there were already questions about that

244
00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,400
Speaker 7: in terms of how much he was playing, he was

245
00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,160
Speaker 7: playing in the league. But now we got we got

246
00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,000
Speaker 7: a shadow job on top of it.

247
00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,520
Speaker 5: It reminded me of college, like when I remember I

248
00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,640
Speaker 5: was covering Saint John's and Chris Mullen had a no

249
00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,160
Speaker 5: show job at a dealership.

250
00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,640
Speaker 4: They used to do that. You remember that Rick in

251
00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,280
Speaker 4: the day.

252
00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,240
Speaker 7: Uh, yeah, yeah, there was Remember the movie was a

253
00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,200
Speaker 7: big shot. What was the the uh the movie be

254
00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:05,000
Speaker 7: with the Shoves, This up with Up with the sun Zone,

255
00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,040
Speaker 7: Shine with a Red Hot Poker. It's about a basketball

256
00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,320
Speaker 7: It's about a basketball kid who who he gets his

257
00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,199
Speaker 7: job is watching the sprinklers.

258
00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do remember that. I can't remember the name

259
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:17,600
Speaker 4: of it.

260
00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was his job watching a sprinkler. Yeah, hey, listen,

261
00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,640
Speaker 1: sign me up.

262
00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,280
Speaker 7: Yeah exactly exactly. But but here, you know, in all reality,

263
00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,000
Speaker 7: like I had heard when when they first signed Kawhi,

264
00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,480
Speaker 7: there were there were rumors that there were there were

265
00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,040
Speaker 7: side deals being made, and I would dare say that

266
00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,600
Speaker 7: Balmer is not alone in terms of owners who find

267
00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,320
Speaker 7: sweetheart deals for players that they want to acquire. It

268
00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,240
Speaker 7: may not be as blatant as this, and it may

269
00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,280
Speaker 7: not have a paper trail, but I don't know that,

270
00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:59,680
Speaker 7: you know, tipping tipping players off to great investment opportunities.

271
00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,079
Speaker 7: Now that we have these billionaire owners who have such

272
00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:11,200
Speaker 7: wide and massive portfolios, their ability to enhance the offers

273
00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:17,079
Speaker 7: being made to players really isn't that hard. So in

274
00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:25,040
Speaker 7: some ways, like honestly, while great reporting bipolotry and great

275
00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,840
Speaker 7: late work, I mean just tremendous, tremendous work.

276
00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:28,920
Speaker 4: We talked about that.

277
00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,280
Speaker 5: You know, if you're willing to put in and read

278
00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,000
Speaker 5: these lawsuits and really, diggain Rick, you noticed as a

279
00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,080
Speaker 5: newspaper reporter, you can get these in for this stuff

280
00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,840
Speaker 5: out in there, stuff in there.

281
00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:40,640
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

282
00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,240
Speaker 7: But all that said, like ultimately it was twenty eight

283
00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,280
Speaker 7: million dollars wasted. Like they didn't they didn't get it,

284
00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,840
Speaker 7: you know, get me, give me, give me. What if

285
00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,840
Speaker 7: Joe lakeb has done something or Wes Eton and Mark

286
00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,920
Speaker 7: Lasri who a team that ended up winning championship and

287
00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,160
Speaker 7: ended up getting players or a player in a place

288
00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,360
Speaker 7: where you did not expect them to go and it

289
00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,000
Speaker 7: paid off. That's the story that I really, that's the

290
00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,120
Speaker 7: story that I want. And I say none of this

291
00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,319
Speaker 7: to disparage anything that Pablo did, but on the scale

292
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,120
Speaker 7: of things that that like I look at it and

293
00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,440
Speaker 7: I go, yoh, Steve Balmery, yeah, you went above and

294
00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,720
Speaker 7: beyond to sign Kawhi Leonard and it didn't pay off,

295
00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,440
Speaker 7: Like you've already paid a penalty, like you bet on

296
00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,600
Speaker 7: the wrong freaking horse.

297
00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,680
Speaker 1: So well, then, Rick, I want to ask you this then,

298
00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,320
Speaker 1: but stay there for a minute, right, So is that

299
00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,080
Speaker 1: the penalty that hey, your team just has men've this

300
00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,680
Speaker 1: guy barely plays or does the league jump in and say,

301
00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, we got to do something extreme, or do

302
00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,320
Speaker 1: they want it to quietly go away.

303
00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,080
Speaker 7: I well, look, if they can prove that there's a

304
00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:55,360
Speaker 7: connection then or that it's clear that the Kawhi did

305
00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,040
Speaker 7: absolutely nothing to earn the money, I mean, there's still

306
00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,200
Speaker 7: the question of like did you know and I haven't

307
00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,440
Speaker 7: read all the documents, Maybe you guys have. If the

308
00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:10,680
Speaker 7: documentation clearly shows other than the interview that he had,

309
00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,480
Speaker 7: the blind interview of the of the worker who said

310
00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,720
Speaker 7: that this was you know, basically said this was cap circumvention,

311
00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,880
Speaker 7: the league has to do something. I mean, unless Balmer

312
00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,480
Speaker 7: with with every all the evidence that Pablo has, I

313
00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,600
Speaker 7: would say guilty until proven innocent at this point. So

314
00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,920
Speaker 7: Balmer's got to demonstrate somehow, some way that that that

315
00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,640
Speaker 7: he wasn't connected or not involved in this deal. And

316
00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,560
Speaker 7: short of doing that, I mean you look at what

317
00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:53,240
Speaker 7: the penalty was for Joe Smith. Yeah here than that, So.

318
00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,760
Speaker 4: He's gonna be interesting.

319
00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,440
Speaker 5: What'd you make of Charles Barkley's comments about the you know,

320
00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,200
Speaker 5: just the fan with where I get it. The money

321
00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,800
Speaker 5: is so out, you know, outrageous of your league. You

322
00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:09,600
Speaker 5: want to take it, but you know you don't. Yeah, yeah,

323
00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,600
Speaker 5: everybody doesn't have all those I know, everybody thinks everybody

324
00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,480
Speaker 5: has all the streaming and whatnot, but a lot of

325
00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,600
Speaker 5: people just have regular television at home.

326
00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,160
Speaker 7: So what you're you're well, I mean, look, here's the thing.

327
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:29,000
Speaker 7: The way that the NBA looks at at the TV

328
00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,080
Speaker 7: ratings and and and everything is they've saturated. They have

329
00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:40,760
Speaker 7: they have tapped out the domestic market, and so they

330
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,119
Speaker 7: are looking to uh to expand and to take advantage

331
00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,240
Speaker 7: of their global reach. You can do that much easier

332
00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,960
Speaker 7: if you're streaming than with national broadcasts, and so that's

333
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,360
Speaker 7: what dictated the direction that they win.

334
00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,600
Speaker 5: But the only problem Rick, I'll say this too, is

335
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,240
Speaker 5: you can and boxing used to be a huge sport

336
00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,840
Speaker 5: in this country, and when they made everything pay per view,

337
00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,280
Speaker 5: you cut into that. You stop kids from growing up

338
00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,639
Speaker 5: watching fights. Every fight's on at midnight from the West

339
00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,040
Speaker 5: coast and you got to pay eighty nine dollars. You know,

340
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,840
Speaker 5: a lot of kids grew up and box is not

341
00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,439
Speaker 5: as big. And even a team like the Yankees that

342
00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,280
Speaker 5: are really popular, they have game weekend games on free

343
00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,320
Speaker 5: TV for a reason. They could just take the money too,

344
00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,040
Speaker 5: because they know that they don't want to, like you,

345
00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,040
Speaker 5: don't want to freeze everybody out from being able to be.

346
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,120
Speaker 4: A fan and watch the game. That's that's all.

347
00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I know, I mean I totally get that.

348
00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,600
Speaker 7: But they're playing the numbers game and they're looking at

349
00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,000
Speaker 7: the you know, I'm just I'm watching a lot of

350
00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,399
Speaker 7: EuroBasket right now and I'm seeing all of these fans

351
00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,639
Speaker 7: in the stands with NBA jerseys of the players that

352
00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,720
Speaker 7: are playing, not the Lithuanian jerseys, not the Slovenian jermy jerseys,

353
00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,679
Speaker 7: the NBA jerseys, and the league is looking at and

354
00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,080
Speaker 7: going those are our fans like, those are fans we

355
00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,040
Speaker 7: want to tap into. Those are fans that we can

356
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,439
Speaker 7: get to buy a league path because they will do

357
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,280
Speaker 7: they will do anything to to try to to uh

358
00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,120
Speaker 7: to watch and they're you know, as of right now,

359
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,240
Speaker 7: they're fighting with the NFL, they're fighting the you know,

360
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,959
Speaker 7: college football, Like they have so much competition here, they

361
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,560
Speaker 7: don't have that same competition over there. That's that's that's

362
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,880
Speaker 7: new blood out there that they think they can tap into.

363
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,359
Speaker 7: And that's why Amazon, you know, edged out tn T

364
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,480
Speaker 7: and NBC going NBC Universal has demonstrated that they have

365
00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 7: the wherewithal to to go into streaming. So it's uh,

366
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,480
Speaker 7: I hear you, Rob in terms of how we grew

367
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,840
Speaker 7: up and and and it may cost them ultimately in

368
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:51,240
Speaker 7: the fan share when it comes to the US, but

369
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,879
Speaker 7: they think they can, they think they can make that

370
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 7: up globally.

371
00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 4: Well, we'll wait and see.

372
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,520
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of the more alone the lines of

373
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 1: Robin just that you don't know your core, You've got

374
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,000
Speaker 1: a core based Yeah, we'll do here right right, Yeah, Rick,

375
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:02,880
Speaker 1: We're up against it, man.

376
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, appreciation.

377
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 7: It my pleasure.

378
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 3: Guys.

379
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,359
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

380
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

381
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:17,480
Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

382
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 3: App Roger Goodell Megan's Round to promote the upcoming NFL

383
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,400
Speaker 3: season with kicks off in about twenty three hours from

384
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 3: now when the Eagles take on to Cowboys, and in

385
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,600
Speaker 3: any event, he was on the Today Show, as you mentioned,

386
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,679
Speaker 3: during the conversation, he was asked about the idea of

387
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,199
Speaker 3: an eighteen game regular season.

388
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 4: Here's the exchange.

389
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 8: Listen, we always say what do the fans want? What

390
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,680
Speaker 8: are the fans really think is important? And I think

391
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 8: it's clear they want more regular season game versus preseason games,

392
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 8: and it's something that we'll work through with the players Association.

393
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 8: We continue to make our game safer, and I think

394
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 8: that's at the core of making that kind of a decision.

395
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 8: Can we do it safely for our players? But it

396
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 8: also so I think represents an opportunity for us to

397
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 8: continue to bring higher quality NFL content ultimately, and a

398
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,640
Speaker 8: regular season game is clearly better.

399
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 4: You mentioned giving the fans what they want.

400
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 3: As you probably heard by now, a lot of NFL

401
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 3: fans would love to not have to go to work

402
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 3: the day after the super Bowl.

403
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 1: The Craik always takes them Monday off, but America wants

404
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,399
Speaker 1: to as well.

405
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 8: Correct what point do we start to see the super

406
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 8: Bowl on President's Day weekend? I think if you went

407
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 8: to eighteen weeks regular season, that would probably occur. Okay,

408
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 8: is possible somewhere in the calendar could happen before that,

409
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,400
Speaker 8: just because of the calendar the way it lays out.

410
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 8: But I think eighteen weeks would get you to that point,

411
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 8: and I think it would be a great, a really

412
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 8: great move.

413
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 5: It's the biggest non factor I've ever heard, like this

414
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 5: whole idea that you need a day off or Monday

415
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 5: after the super Bowl?

416
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 4: Do you know what time the super Bowl kicks off?

417
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 4: If you live here in Los Angeles? Three o'clock?

418
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 5: What time does Sunday Night Football come on every Sunday?

419
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 4: Eight o'clock Eastern? Right?

420
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 5: And people go to work on Monday. You don't need

421
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 5: no holiday? What holiday? This is the NFL and these

422
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 5: fan like the NFL trying to make themselves more special

423
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 5: or more important than they really are. Really a national holiday.

424
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 5: It has to be so that people could be off

425
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 5: on Monday. And they don't have to after the super Bowl.

426
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 5: The super Bowl starts at six o'clock, which is earlier

427
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 5: than Sunday night football six o'clock. Even if the game

428
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 5: went till ten o'clock. You can't go to bed. You

429
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 5: can't want You can't have a couple of pops and some.

430
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 4: Chicken wings and get up and go to work.

431
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 5: Come on, man, this is where the NFL and people

432
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 5: think it's bigger than it really is. Nothing's changed here.

433
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 5: I keep hearing at national holiday, the super Bowl. It's

434
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 5: a Sunday, it's in the winter. You're not going anywhere.

435
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 5: We're just eating chicken wings and drinking a couple of beers.

436
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 5: My god, no, no way, no how.

437
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 4: We don't need it to go to President's Day so

438
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 4: that you could go. Oh, the super.

439
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 5: Bowl, it's a national holiday, it's a super Bowl Sunday.

440
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 5: Can we leave it as it is? Why? Why do

441
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 5: we have to overinflate stuff and make it like you

442
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 5: would be doing the people of this country a service, because,

443
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 5: my god, they gotta get up on Monday.

444
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 4: And go to work after the super Bowl. You mean

445
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 4: the super Bowl that was a blowout and over in

446
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 4: the first half.

447
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 5: Rob g the super Bowl was over, Go to bed

448
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 5: if you gotta go to work.

449
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 4: You kidding?

450
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 5: Who doesn't go to work because they watched the super

451
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 5: Bowl the day before?

452
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 4: Who?

453
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: Please?

454
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 5: It's nonsense and you're right, sound like a softball question

455
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 5: that the NFL does.

456
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 4: Media people through.

457
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: To the NBC question, Hey, Roger and Dale is gonna

458
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: come on, please answer and ask him these questions. Listen

459
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: most of the ways I want to break this down.

460
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: First of all, he said, I just want to get

461
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: the fans that they need. Rob's I've never heard the

462
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: fans talk about an eighteen game. I've never heard of

463
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: fan man. I love the NFL. I can't wait, baby

464
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: we back, but oh I need an eighteenth game.

465
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: Nobody said that. You just enjoy football?

466
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 2: You know?

467
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 5: You know what I would respect if the people there

468
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 5: at NBC said to him, Roger, can we be honest.

469
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 4: Isn't this eighteenth game.

470
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 5: Because you can sell a regular season game more than

471
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 5: you sell a preseason game, which is local television and

472
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 5: not on national.

473
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 4: Isn't this about money? It's a this about money?

474
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: And then you followed up with whatever he says with,

475
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: come on, what about the health? That's an additional game

476
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: because we all know preseason games, nobody's playing that hard

477
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: and they're not trying to hurt. You know, everybody's trying

478
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: to make it out a live, a real regular season game.

479
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: This is costing to get the chance to get to

480
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: the postseeds and get the playoffs and get to the

481
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: super Bowl. So guys are all in. It's a whole

482
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: different thing. So health clearly went out the windows just

483
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: about that. That's just money ground, money ground, and we

484
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: know that. And this is where so we went from

485
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: fourteen to sixteen used to be seventy twelve. That's why

486
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: I man, twelve, fourteen, sixteen, seventeen looks like eighteen?

487
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 4: How long before twenty? You know what I'm like? When

488
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 4: does it stop? Right? And that's what made the game

489
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 4: beautiful is the scarcity. You know, every game matters, you know,

490
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 4: every week matters. We're all in. Twenty games is coming

491
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 4: up before you know it.

492
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: Now back to you, missus, Scrooge McDuck by humbuck, let

493
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: us get.

494
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 4: A Monday off.

495
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: It's everybody doesn't have seventy two days off, like you

496
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: just went on the world trip around the world.

497
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 4: Can they get a Monday off? And they don't. They

498
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 4: ready to get Monday off? Can they double up?

499
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: Can they go super Bowl Sunday rolling the Monday I'm

500
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: off not you know, February eighth or something, whatever it is,

501
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: and I gotta go to work. Let people enjoy. They're

502
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: like base since their family, their friend. I might have

503
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: friends around of town. We can stay up, we can

504
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: read half the super Bowl. We can talk about Janet Jackson,

505
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: what happened at the super Bowl halftime. We can talk

506
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: about Beyonce, how powerful she is she shut off the

507
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: halftime lights.

508
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: And then maybe I want.

509
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 1: To go out throw a Super Bowl Sunday night party.

510
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to work. Look at you.

511
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: I thought you were a man of the people. Now

512
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: people are trying to get what they want to get

513
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: to watch super Bowl Sunday. Now I have to go

514
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: to work on Monday. It is a great marriage. Now

515
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: you're over here making.

516
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 4: Us go to work.

517
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: It makes no sense. Come on you at the game

518
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 5: starts you live in lane. Don't tell it starts at

519
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: three o'clock in the afternoon.

520
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 4: You can't go to work on Monday.

521
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: I tell her, if these stopped pocket watching, you stop clockwatching.

522
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: Don't don't tell her you can't go to the game.

523
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 5: You can't go to work on Monday because you watch

524
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 5: a three o'clock Super Bowl game on the West Coast.

525
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: No, I can't make it to work on Monday because

526
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 3: I was pregaming at nine am Pacific. You go by

527
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 3: four pm Pacific for the three pm kickoff on the

528
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: West Coast. I'm already about nine drinks in, he says.

529
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: Come on, now, you got an alcohol problem.

530
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: I got nothing to do with football and I enjoy

531
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: met Okay, then fine, then just make Sunday. Make Sunday

532
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: where the Monday afterwards everybody knows, like, you don't have

533
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: to come in till noon. If it's for all you

534
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 1: nine to five typical stuff, you don't have to come

535
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: into New Ones.

536
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 5: They already have what all the holidays? People get off

537
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 5: enough already?

538
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 4: What is it Why we can't what?

539
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh, you traveled the world, but I'll take it off.

540
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: In Europe they take all the time off. They have

541
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: four holiday right by the way. I know we got

542
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: sidetracked though, you know.

543
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

544
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 3: Roger Goodwell's like, hey, you know, if we get the

545
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 3: eighteenth game, we can slide the Super Bowl to presidents.

546
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: They get the holiday, you know, They could have done

547
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 3: that anyways without an eighteenth game.

548
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: Wants you, yeah, make it another week, like you know,

549
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: another bye week. I really want to do another week,

550
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: get it. There's a way to do that without that.

551
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: But that eighteen game is crucial for him. And that's

552
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: the thing about it, man. The players need to stand

553
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: up if they really don't want it. Man up, they say,

554
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: you don't want to in the quarterback players gonna stand up.

555
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 4: They can't even get healthcare and a pension plan.

556
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 1: Why don't last tell them to stand up? Rod they

557
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: stand up? Say even my you know my I got

558
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Rose. Oh man, you know, I just I mean,

559
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: you know, we don't want eighteen games. You know, we

560
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: don't want.

561
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: To say, you know, saying what the chess? We ain't

562
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 4: having it. Seventeen was the end all be all.

563
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 5: We lost this, So all you gotta do is your

564
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes and what these guys uh they could play

565
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 5: eighteen games.

566
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 4: I'm not playing playing eighteen games this contract.

567
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: You get enough players to say that what you got? Okay,

568
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm not playing eighteen And I hate how he tried

569
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: to use the preseason. You are fans tell stay rather rotch? Well,

570
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: they didn't say they wanted more games. They just said,

571
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: if I asked you, which one would you rather watch,

572
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: weeks five of real recular season or preseason?

573
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: Well, you say it like real season, Like.

574
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I need eighteen seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty games.

575
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: That's just simply means real football is more important than

576
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: I'd rather watch.

577
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 5: Well, now that they don't even play in the preseason,

578
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 5: why would I want to watch it? They used to

579
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 5: play in the preseason. Yes, come on, that's the difference.

580
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 5: That's why nobody wants to watch it. They don't play.

581
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: And you could at least look me in my eyes

582
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: after I saw you know your said your favorite team,

583
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: favorite quarterback play the first half and charged me one hundred.

584
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 4: Dollars for parking. Oh, they I want to talk about that.

585
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: They want to talk about preseason, same dag on price,

586
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: same record season.

587
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: Well, look, y'all, guys are so right. You can't turn

588
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: left right now. Here's the problem. And it's another conversation.

589
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 3: The other day, the two forward facing faces for the

590
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: NFL players, Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow, have both already

591
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: been on the record of saying, if we're gonna get

592
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: to eighteen games, just give us a nextra buy. So

593
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: all the leverage they would have had in these negotiations

594
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: out the window.

595
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: When your two the four headed monster quarterback position and

596
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: I get it because they play quarterback and they don't

597
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: get I think subconsciously they're like, I don't get hit

598
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: that much. I just love the game. Yeah, you know,

599
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: I have more chance, the guy more chances to get.

600
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: Think about the other guys.

601
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: I say, Kwon Barkley's five hundred touches, think.

602
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: About that line and a block for your butt all game.

603
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 4: Hell with to Helmer right after bat Hi