1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: You know how many people told me it was impossible. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: I remember one of my teachers told me I was 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: throwing my life away when I told her that I 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: was thinking about turning down my full scholarship. 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: To grab. 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Grammy nominated artists. 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Please give it. 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 9 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: What's the difference between wishing for something and manifesting song? 10 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Wishing is one thing, but when you put your attention 11 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: on the intention and add strategy to it, that is 12 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: how you get to manifest. 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: If someone in the audience is feeling a low sense 14 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: of confidence, what's the first step to building that confidence. 15 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: Everyone comes from different walks of life. There is no 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: real right or wrong in this life. There's only a perspective. 17 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Things can hurt you. When you understand yourself more and 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: you appreciate everything you have, you start to understand and 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: you don't take things personally. 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: You've always been so open about depression and anxiety in 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: a culture and in a art form that may not 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: always allow for it. How did you find a safe 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 2: space in doing the career you had in being Big 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: Sean the Rapper? 25 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: The commitment I made to myself for being authentic and sharing, 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: and when I started to go to therapy as a 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: black man. I didn't know it was such a taboo thing. 28 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: What you define success. 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: As Whatever you're doing on purpose is your purpose, as 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: long as it's with the purpose. The number one health 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: and Wellness. 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: Podcast Jay Shetty Jay Shetty, I am so pumped to 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: finally share the live interviews from my very first podcast 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: tour presented by Chase Sapphire Reserve. This next one features 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: a powerful conversation with Big Sean at the Met in Philadelphia, 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: one of the most thoughtful and inspiring voices in music. 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: I am so excited to be here tonight live at 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: the Met in Philadelphia with the one and only Big Sean. 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: Sean and I have been friends for quite a while now, 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: and I'm so grateful that he's here today to be 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: part of my first ever on purpose tour. And I 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: was so grateful that he let me write the forward 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: to his beautiful book Go. I saw some in the audience. 44 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: If you haven't got a copy, and I love to 45 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: see it. I love to see it. 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: No, thank you. 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: If you haven't got a copy, make sure you go 48 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: and grab one. It's truly a beautiful book. And you know, 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: when I first met Sean I was shocked as to 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: how much self work healing he'd done from the beginning 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: of his journey. This wasn't something he'd come into. It 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: was something he'd inherited and started so much earlier, and 53 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 2: it touched me so deeply. But Sean, before we get 54 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: into that, I wanted to start with what we've been 55 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: talking about tonight. And I know you were watching backstage, 56 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: but we've been talking about this idea about how we're 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: all limited by what we think people think of us, 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: and I wanted to share. I wanted you to share 59 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: if there was a time in your life where you 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: used to be worried about what you thought people thought 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: about you, and how that blocked your creativity and your spirit. 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: You know. I used to let the things I can't 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: control control me, you know what I mean. And it 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: was very conditional. It was something that it's impossible to 65 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: be successful in the business of pleasing everybody, like to 66 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: something that you might as well let go of now. 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: And if you do please everybody, you're probably not going 68 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: to be pleasing yourself, you know what I mean. So 69 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: I do feel that, especially in entertainment, and when you 70 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to be you got to understand, like 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: since I was ten eleven years old, all I wanted 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: to do was like be a rapper. That was like 73 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: the only thing that I wanted. And I did super 74 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: good in school. I come from like a family of scholars. 75 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: My mom is an English and social studies teacher. My grandma. 76 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: First of all, my grandma was like one of the 77 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: first female black captains in World War Two. So she 78 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: was yeah, all right pee And she was like in 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: that other six Triple eight what the Tyler Perry made 80 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: a movie about. She was like a part of the 81 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: six Triple eight. So it was quite a you know, 82 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: I had quite a grandmother. But she she to her 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: education was the way to a better life, you know 84 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. And my granddad was also in World 85 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: War two, And so I was somebody who I always 86 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: did good in school, you know what I mean, like 87 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,559 Speaker 1: just out of respect. But I always knew that music 88 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: was what I wanted to do. And I had an 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to like go to school or to pursue music. 90 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: I go to school on a full scholarship as well, 91 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: and I chose the music thing. And the beautiful thing 92 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: though about my grandmother and my family is that even 93 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: though I did the opposite, they still supported me. And 94 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: as a dad, now I see how important it is 95 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: to not control your kids or in that case, grandkids, 96 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: but to support them and to you know, give them 97 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: the fuel to say, hey, you could do anything you 98 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: want to do. Like you know, how many people told 99 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: me it was impossible. I remember one of my teachers 100 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: told me I was throwing my life away. When I 101 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: told her that I was thinking about turning down my 102 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: full scholarship to rap. She was like no, she was like, 103 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: do not blow it, like you know, and it took 104 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: so much faith and so much trust, and you know 105 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: that trust. It's like you, the letter you is right 106 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of trust and you have to trust yourself. 107 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: It's like you are the one that's like right in 108 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: the middle of that trust. And it was just I 109 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: can go on and on about the story, but to 110 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: fast forward a little bit. And that's what this book 111 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: is like. Honestly, I'm not trying to sell my book 112 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: to you guys that like it's not doing being shameless plug, 113 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: But this book is like the wisdom of like my 114 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: whole family, the whole I was lucky enough to have 115 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: like family members like my mom who introduced me to meditation, 116 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: introduced me to strategize and told me like, look, if 117 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: you really want to make this happen, usualize and meditate, 118 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: close your eyes, like you write it down, journal it out, 119 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, and it really, I mean, it really made 120 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: the world a difference. I would not be sitting here 121 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: talking to Jay Shetdy if it wasn't for that. And 122 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: that's the whole point of writing the book. And when 123 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: I did my first interview with him, he was like, yo, 124 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: you got to write a book. And I was like, 125 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's something I want to do later on. 126 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: And you realize how fleeting and how not promised life is, 127 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: and that when you have the wanting of something, when 128 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: you have the desire, I don't even like using want 129 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: that much because it acknowledges that I don't have it. 130 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: I like to think that I already have it. When 131 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: you have a desire, when you have a passion for something, 132 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: just do it as soon as you can, because nothing 133 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: is promised. We think we have this concept of time, 134 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: like oh, I got to like I'm old, Like that's 135 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: not all all the way true, and that's not a 136 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: bad thing. It's really not a bad thing. It's just 137 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: it's actually beauty in that. So for me, that's what 138 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: this book is. It's just kind of like for people 139 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: who may not be clear enough to how to get 140 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: to the next part of their lives, people who may 141 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: feel stuck, people who you know, we all go through 142 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: the ups and downs of life, and I feel like 143 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: this book is a great book of strategy to just 144 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, something that I can't wait for my son 145 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: to read or pass on to people. You know. So 146 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm really thankful for you for helping me do that. Man, 147 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: it means a lot. 148 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt it immediately when we first spoke, and 149 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you the difference because I think, oh. 150 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: Sorry, but I didn't answer your question about controlling, so 151 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: my bad. I went off a little bit. Let me 152 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: answer that real quick quickly too. I won't take too 153 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: much time. Yes, there are times where I did feel 154 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: very controlled and trying to do you know, the idea 155 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: of what people wanted me to do, and it was 156 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: very depressing sometimes and sometimes it worked out. Sometimes it 157 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: was like, oh, thank god I listened to you. But 158 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: at the same time, it doesn't feel the same as 159 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: when you just listen to yourself. You got to let 160 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: go of the idea of succeeding and not succeeding. You 161 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: got to understand that it's all just a part of 162 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: the same journey. It's all like, you know, you may 163 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: learn more about winning by losing, you know what I mean. 164 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: It's like if the sun was sunny every day, you 165 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't even appreciate it. It's the storms that make the 166 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: sunshine so much more. It's the ying and yang of it. 167 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: But uh, it's something that you should definitely keep in mind. 168 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about it as you were talking. 169 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about dreams earlier, and you know, 170 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: everyone in this audience got dreams, got ideas, got visions 171 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 2: of what their better life looks like. And I wanted 172 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: to ask you the difference between wishing and manifesting. Yeah, 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: what's the difference? Because I think a lot of people 174 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: are trying to manifest but then they're not seeing it, 175 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: and a lot of people might be wishing. So what's 176 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: the difference between wishing for something, wanting for something and 177 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: manifesting something. 178 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a very good question. I think the difference 179 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: between wishing something and manifesting something is one is an 180 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: idea one is a dream, one is a concept. The 181 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: other one is everything that you've accumulated in action. When 182 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: you manifest something, you are in the middle of it. 183 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: You may not even realize it's happening. But I always 184 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: like to think of the energy of already having it. 185 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: It's like to me, that's already manifesting. It's like it's 186 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: the difference between being like you know, I really want 187 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: that car, that's like wishing it, to being like man 188 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: like the steer, like you get like smell it. You 189 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean when you when you psych yourself out, 190 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: because your subconscious mind doesn't know the difference between what's 191 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: real and what you are feeding it, or what's real 192 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: to you. So that being said, when you meditate and 193 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: you visualize yourself on a beach with your feeding the sand, 194 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: your subconscious mind, which to me is the relationship between 195 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: you and God or the universe or whatever you believe in, 196 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: of manifesting it. Is one of these books I read 197 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: a long time ago, and it was talking about how 198 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: when you speak, there's these like crystals in water, and 199 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: when you speak to it positively, the crystals become these 200 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: beautiful looking like snowflakes. And when you speak to it 201 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: negatively when you say all these like you suck, you know, 202 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: all these things like that. It like the crystals like 203 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: look like damaged rocks. So you got to understand if 204 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: it has that effect on water, what are we seventy 205 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: percent made of water? Right? So it's really the power, 206 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, when you manifest something, it's like the power 207 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: of your subconscious is so important to really focus and 208 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: feed that even if you don't, even if you technically 209 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: your logical mind doesn't believe it. If you just keep 210 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: feeding it, you'll see that you're a walking magnet. It's 211 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: going to show up in your life one way or another, 212 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: I promise you. 213 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I love that. I love that insight. 214 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: And I was thinking about it as well. I feel 215 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: like manifesting is being in love with the process, and 216 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: wishing is being in love with the result. And so 217 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: when you're manifesting, right, like when when you're manifesting, it's 218 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: what you said, you can smell the car, you're thinking 219 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: about the work you're going to have to do to 220 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: get it. Yeah, you're dreaming about waking up every day 221 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: and putting in the time because you know where it's going. 222 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: But you're obsessed with the process the process, and wishing 223 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: is just like I can't wait till I have it. 224 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: I wish I had it. Why did they have it? 225 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: I don't have it. They don't deserve it, and it 226 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: becomes all about the end. And the problem with that 227 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: is it just feels further and further and further away 228 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: and out of reach. 229 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, especially when you don't put a strategy to 230 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: the wishing. And I think once you put the strategy 231 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: to the wishing and the attention on your intention, that's 232 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: what turns it from wishing to manifesting. Yeah. 233 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: So that again, that was good. That was good that 234 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: you said it too fast. 235 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: I forgot you were rather yeah, attention and you know 236 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I was, Yeah, I was saying that. You know, wishing 237 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: is one thing, but when you put your attention on 238 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: the intention and add strategy to it, that is how 239 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: you get to manifesting. That's the process. 240 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah. Yeah, that's everyone write that down. Intention, 241 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: attention and strategy or action. Like adding those three things together, 242 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:30,119 Speaker 2: that's manifesting. Intention, attention and strategy and action. That's manifesting. 243 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: If you're trying to build something in your life. Sean, 244 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: what I love about you is that you've always been 245 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: so open about depression and anxiety in a culture and 246 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: in an art form that may not always allow for it. 247 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: Like generally you think of hip hop and rap and 248 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: music in general to be like on your set, to 249 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: be tough, to be strong. You know, you're battle rapping. 250 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: It's bravado, it's you know, and I love hip hop. 251 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: You know that of course, But there's that energy to 252 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: it because a lot of people here ooh so looking 253 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,359 Speaker 2: for their voice to have a space to feel vulnerable, 254 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: Like a lot of people earlier were saying, we're so 255 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: grateful that this is a space we could be vulnerable. 256 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes when you go to work, sometimes when you go 257 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: to your family, you don't have a space right to 258 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: be vulnerable. So what was How did you find a 259 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: safe space when it wasn't easy in doing the career 260 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 2: you had and being big Sean the rapper, How did 261 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: you do that? Where did you find that space? 262 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it was a safe space. I just 263 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: looked at it as like it was like for me, 264 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: it was just the commitment I made to myself to 265 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: being real, to just like being authentic and sharing. You know, 266 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: when someone asked me about it, and you know, when 267 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: I was going through those ups and downs, like expressing 268 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: that on the song, you know, especially the song I 269 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: have Deep reverence with me and Nipsey Hustle to the 270 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: late Great Nipsey Hustle RP. Just being open about it, 271 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: and I didn't know it was such a taboo thing 272 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: as a black man, as like any of that, even 273 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: talking about like therapy. My dad. So, my dad, he's 274 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: from Monroe, Louisiana, and he used to get caught on 275 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: the wrong yeah, shout out to Louisiana. Okay, Yeah, he 276 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: would get caught on the wrong side of the train 277 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: tracks and get beat bad for us sometimes. You know, 278 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: it was in a around the Civil rights time, like 279 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: real bad times down there for him sometimes. And he 280 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: even had a speech impediment, like he had a stutter 281 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,239 Speaker 1: when he was growing up that he was able to overcome. 282 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: But my point being is that when I started to 283 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: go to therapy, it inspired him to go to therapy. 284 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: And he was like, I didn't know. No one told me, 285 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: you know one of the things he said, and I 286 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: didn't really it means so much. He was like, man, 287 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: I love learning from It's awesome. When I can learn 288 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: from my son, and now that I have a son, 289 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: he teaches me. He's only two years old, but I 290 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: learned so much from him. I just feel like that 291 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: that's how the natural progression of it goes, you know 292 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: what I mean. But when I've initially shared like how 293 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: I was feeling, I don't know if it was a 294 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: quote unquote a safe space. It's just it's just the 295 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: route I chose to go, you know. 296 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just needs to come out. It just needs 297 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: to cometimes. Sometimes what you're saying is, don't wait for 298 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: a safe space because it may never come. 299 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: It may never come, and so you just. 300 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: Go to kind of create a space where you can 301 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: start talking about it. Who is the first person you 302 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: opened up to deeply about it? Do you remember that? 303 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: Was it a therapist or was it someone else? 304 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: It was my mom? It was my mom because we 305 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: as close as I am to her, like me and 306 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: her relationship like started taking a real terrible dive when 307 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: I was just some like overdoing it with my career, 308 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: meaning that like I gave up all my hobbies. I 309 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: was just like strictly working. Because the concept when you 310 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: come from a city like Philadelphia, like or a city 311 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: like Detroit, it's like, oh, you got to stay on 312 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: they next. You gotta stay hot. Can't opportunity slip away. 313 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: You can't be one of those people that almost you know. 314 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: And even though it was like, oh, you have a 315 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: number one album, another number one album, this, that, like, 316 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: it just never felt like it was all the way 317 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: locked in. And I think that's because I was looking 318 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: at it the wrong way. And I'll come back to that. 319 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: But I remember just burning myself out. And I was 320 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: on tour in Europe. I'm not going to say who, 321 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: but somebody came up to me and was like, man, 322 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: you should try adderall right, And I was like, okay, 323 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: I never wasn't really familiar with adderall like that. He's like, oh, 324 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, college students do it, like he was lying, 325 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm a very smart person too, and he was like 326 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: it's just some like salts and things. I'm like, I 327 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: wanted to believe him, and I took it, and you know, 328 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm not prescribed it like I don't need it per se. 329 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: And I was able to get more work done though. 330 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: I was like able to get more and I was 331 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: pushing myself more, and I noticed that it was like 332 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: really tearing my insides up. Like I looked like I 333 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: was on drugs, you know what I'm saying, Like hardcore. 334 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: I looked like just not myself. And anyway, I kept 335 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: doing it because it was working. I was seeing results. 336 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: I was getting the work done. I had another number 337 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: one album. I was able to finish it and do 338 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: another project with you know, with Janey, and we did 339 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: a side project and then another album, and I was 340 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: just like and then I did another album that same 341 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: year with Metro Booming, and it was just like all 342 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: of these things. But I really paid the price when 343 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: I hit like rock bottom and I went to the 344 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: studio and I realized when I didn't have adderall, I 345 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: felt like I couldn't do it. I couldn't make music 346 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: without it. And that's when I realized I have a problem. 347 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: I was like, I have a huge problem. And I 348 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: stopped it immediately, and I couldn't think of anything in 349 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: a depression. You know, I didn't realize that the synthetic 350 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: dopamine that was being created in my brain from that 351 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: when you shut it off, when you have a synthetic 352 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: version of it, your your brain start stops making natural dopamine. 353 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: So you're totally screwed. I'm talking about you are like 354 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: I like had a gun to my head. I was 355 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: like ready to blow. You know. I had like my 356 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: dream house in Beverly Hills. I had all these things 357 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: like beautiful, a beautiful life, unimaginable, and I wanted to 358 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: take it away because my mind was really playing tricks 359 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: on me and had me thinking that I was someone 360 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: that I wasn't. And that's when I opened up to 361 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: my mom. And I had not been talking to her 362 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: because I felt like I didn't deserve. I feel like 363 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: I didn't deserve to talk to my family. It was 364 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: the weirdest psychological twisted games I was playing with myself. 365 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: And I remember she suggested all these things, like you 366 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: know a good mom does, and she ended up coming 367 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: out and spending time with me and like help building 368 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: me back up. And that's when I really started realizing 369 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: how connected the body is with the spirit and with 370 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: the mind. And you know, I started working out, I 371 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: started seeing a therapist, I started slowly getting back into music. 372 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: I had to literally let go of everything I was 373 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: doing because just taking a phone call, just taking a 374 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: meeting was just too much for me. And I crashed out. 375 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: That was when I realized how bad I needed to 376 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: change my life. And I think we all kind of 377 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: come to a point in our lives where we go 378 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: through that in our own ways. It's like late twenties, 379 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: early thirties, maybe late thirties, and you probably probably a 380 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: few times in your life where this happens to where 381 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: it feels like you're gonna a wall is going to 382 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: fall on you and you either have to climb over 383 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: it or you're gonna get crushed by it, you know, 384 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: And it really feels that life or death and therapy 385 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: helped me so much. Being able to talk through with 386 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: someone and unload that amount of emotion and that amount 387 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: of reality helped because sometimes when you do it with 388 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: your friend or your family member, it stays between y'all 389 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: and then it's like, well, shit, they're going through their 390 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: own stuff, you know what I'm saying, And it's kind 391 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: of awkward, you know, when you get to like spilling 392 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: your deepest secrets or like, Mom, I had a gun 393 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: in my head. You know, I don't want to like 394 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: talk to her about that. And it took me some time, 395 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: but you know what I believed, I had faith in myself. 396 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: I trusted myself and that was that was one of 397 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: the deepest time where I had to connect with my 398 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: my spiritual self, my faith, and I have a great 399 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: relationship with Jesus Christ and with it with God and 400 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: and a great relationship with myself. You know, I rediscovered myself. 401 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: I tried new hobbies. I was like jumping out of 402 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: airplanes and like going to the gun range and just 403 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: trying all new things that I hadn't tried before, and 404 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: really watching anime like I'm a huge like anime lover, 405 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: and I just connected back with myself, you know. 406 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for going there with the depths of yeah, 407 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 2: go for it, apps, thank you, go for it. You 408 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: don't even wanna be silent. I love doing this with you. 409 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: I feel like I should do every podcast with a 410 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: live audience. 411 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: Yeah listen. 412 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 2: I just want to take a moment to say how 413 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: much this means to me, because usually I spend my 414 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: time with a camera or when we're in the studio 415 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: and we've recorded multiple times in our studio together. But 416 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: sharing this with all of you and having all of 417 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: your energy here is giving me energy. So I just 418 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: want to say thank you to you all for first laugh, clap, cry, 419 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: whatever you want, like, that's what this is for. But first, 420 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: here's a quick word from the brands that support the show. 421 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: All right, thank you to our sponsors. Now let's dive 422 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 2: back in. 423 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, one thing I do want to say, not 424 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 1: to cut you off, Jay, is that you know, I 425 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: was just looking at your mic and it's on purpose. 426 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: And one of the things people always ask me, and 427 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: I want to ask you this question two, how do 428 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: I find my purpose? 429 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: I love you too, I love you too? 430 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: How do I find my purpose? How would you answer that? 431 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: I'm going to share a meditation later that I believe 432 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: will do that, but in order to give a spoken 433 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: answer that doesn't come through with then I would say 434 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: that your passion is for you and services for others. 435 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: And so when you use your passion in the service 436 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: of others, it becomes a purpose. So when you have 437 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: something that you're passionate about, right, when you have something 438 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: you're passionate about could be anything. When you have something 439 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 2: that you're deeply passionate about, and then you use it 440 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: to improve other people's lives, that's what a purpose is. 441 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: But a purpose doesn't have to be your job. It 442 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be what you do every day. It 443 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: doesn't have to make you money, it doesn't have to 444 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: make you famous, it doesn't have to get you followers. 445 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: Your purpose can be something you do on the evenings 446 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: and weekends. Your purpose can be something to do that 447 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: you do take care of your children. Your purpose can 448 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: be so many things. And I think we limit ourselves 449 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: because the world today. You think about this for a second, 450 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: maybe like fifty to one hundred years ago, no one 451 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: would have asked the question and what do you do? 452 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: As the main question of conversation. Today, that's the number 453 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: one question because who we are defines our worth. We 454 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: live at a time where you say your career and 455 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: it defines who you are and what your worth is 456 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: in society. But that's not how God designed us, that's 457 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: not how the community designed us. In the past, you'd 458 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: be a farmer and a storyteller, yes right, you'd be 459 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: a mom and a doctor, you'd be a career and 460 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: you'd be whatever else it is. And so I think 461 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: we need to look at our purposes and this and 462 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: that and stop thinking of our purpose as a job title, 463 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: stop thinking of our purpose as a promotion, stop thinking 464 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: of our purposes. You know, what does our biography say 465 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 2: on Instagram? Like because I really don't like it when 466 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: everyone's like, so what do you do? And I'm like, 467 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to say podcaster. There's a million podcasters 468 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: doing different things. I'm an author, but that's not who 469 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: I am. That's not my purpose. Same as you you're 470 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: an author, but you're an entrepreneur, you're a father. 471 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. Someon when people ask me, like, what's how do 472 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: you find your purpose? It took me a while to 473 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: answer it. That was an amazing answer, by the way, man, 474 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: that's like right on. And I think a lot of 475 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: people tie their purpose in with their career. Right They'll 476 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: be like, well, I got to find my purpose because 477 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: I got to find my way. I got to find 478 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: out how to you know what I mean? And I 479 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: realized that your purpose is what you're doing on purpose. 480 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: With purpose. It doesn't have to be like you say, 481 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: your job, that's a it can be there's no outlines 482 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: to it. It can be your job can be your purpose, 483 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: your hobby can be your purpose. In fact, I feel 484 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: like one of my purposes is to be a son. 485 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: One of my purposes is to be a father, whatever 486 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: it is. Because it's whatever I'm doing on purpose is 487 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: my purpose. You feel what I'm saying like it doesn't 488 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: have to be so defined. And that's that's. 489 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: One thing that absolutely I'm so glad you brought that 490 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: up because I feel like there's a lot of pressure 491 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: around that word as well. Now it is because it's 492 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: got link to our careers, it's got link to our jobs. 493 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: A lot of pressure around purpose. 494 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure around purpose, and it shouldn't 495 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: be that way because you're absolutely right that your purpose 496 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: today could just be to be present. 497 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: That could be a present for today. Whatever makes you happy, 498 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing that you feel in your heart, whatever 499 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: makes you smile, whether you know, going to the movies 500 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: could be your who knows, like whatever it is that 501 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: that does it for you, That whatever you're doing on 502 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: purpose is your purpose as long as it's with a purpose. 503 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: Sure, And I was thinking about as we were talking 504 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 2: about that, you've been talking about being a father and 505 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you it feels like it's had 506 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: a big healing impact on you, and I feel like 507 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: it's got you do. 508 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: A lot of impacts on me. Yeah, for sure. You know, 509 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: I have a two and a half year old, So 510 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone knows what that's like. He's 511 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: the sweetest, most amazing kid. He's like enlightened being, you 512 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So he teaches me all these 513 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: things without trying. So I'm just I'm appreciative of him. 514 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: I'm embracing the unknown because as he keeps growing, he 515 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: keeps surprising me. So I don't know what it's going 516 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: to be like. He's only two. I can't believe we're 517 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: only two and a half years in. It seems like 518 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: he's I can't even hardly remember what it was like 519 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: without him at this point. So, yeah, you know, that's 520 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: how much of a presence he is in all our 521 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: lives for sure. 522 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: I want to shift the question that people usually ask, 523 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: especially young kids. Going back to our previous conversation about purpose, 524 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: people always like, oh, what do you want him to 525 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: be when he grows up? What do you want him 526 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: to do? And I want to shift it. I want 527 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: to ask you the question, what quality? If you could 528 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: choose one quality, do you really want to know where 529 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: to have when he grows up? What would you want 530 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: that quality to be? 531 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: His confidence? He has so much confidence. That's something that 532 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: I had to gain along the way way. You know, 533 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: my parents came from two families that they didn't really 534 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: have the confidence growing up. They didn't give me the 535 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: confidence because they didn't have it. They would always like, 536 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: I'm confident that I will always have whatever it is 537 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: I need to be the person that I strive to be. 538 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: I will always have enough. It's a bund. There's enough 539 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: for all of us. And that was a concept where 540 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: growing up, my mom and my dad both were like, oh, 541 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: you gotta work real hard. You know money, Oh, money 542 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: doesn't grow on trees. You know, it's it's not fair 543 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: out here. You know, these are type of things that 544 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: they would tell me. And that's not true. That is 545 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: an experience and they have also learned that that is 546 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: actually not true. I know all these sayings sometimes like 547 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: stick with us, right, like money doesn't grow on trees, 548 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: this and that, and you know, I saw my mom 549 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: crying over these bills and you know, me crying and 550 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, growing up and it motivated me. But one 551 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: of the things they will always tell me, like even 552 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: when I got my license, my mom was like, make 553 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: sure like you take your hat off, make sure you 554 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: wear your hat to the on front you know, when 555 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: the police officer, if you get pulled over, make sure 556 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: you have both hands on the wheel, you know. And 557 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: these are things that a mother should tell a black 558 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: man in America, especially in a city like Detroit, you know. 559 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: And so I understood it, and there's a lot that 560 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: comes with that. But I think that I had to 561 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: gain my confidence, and one thing that he has is 562 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: his confidence, and I'm just so proud of him for that, 563 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: and like he is literally the evolution. That's why it's 564 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: important for you to work on yourselves, for your family members, 565 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: even whether you have kids or not. Your energy is contagious. 566 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna spread to your group of friends, your work group, 567 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: your family, your kids, and especially when you have a family. 568 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: It's like your DNA is like a computer chip. It 569 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: like has all this information in it, right, So it's like, 570 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: it's important to heal your trauma because you're passing it on. 571 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: It's important to heal your gut and your liver and 572 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: all these things because you're passing your genetically passing everything on. 573 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: They're they're parts of you and your partner combined, right. 574 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: So I always looked at that and it taught that's 575 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: one of the things my son taught me is that, Okay, 576 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: he'll smile like my grandmother, or he'll smile like Janey's 577 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: grand you know. It's like little things like that, And 578 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: I realize that my grandparents. I always one of the 579 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: things with having a kid. I was like, I wish 580 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: I could talk to my granddad and like ask him 581 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: for advice. I wish I could talk to my grandma, 582 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, all these people that aren't here anymore. And 583 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: I realize I can because the information is in my DNA. 584 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: I just have to go within and really lock in, 585 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: and the answer is there, you know. And that's something 586 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: to always remember that we always think that the answers 587 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: are out there, but really the answers most of the 588 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: time are right where you are. That's what That's actually 589 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: the concept of the Alchemist, one of my favorite books 590 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: as well. 591 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah that's real. That, Yeah, that's real. That's so powerful. 592 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: You just gave me chills when you said that. That 593 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: idea that we always wish we could talk to this 594 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: person or that person, but their history lives within us. Yeah, 595 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: that's a really really powerful idea. 596 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: That's why when people say, well, I'm living through you. 597 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: You know something, my dad always says he really, that's 598 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: for real talk. That's real talk. 599 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: People are living with us and living through us at 600 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: all times. Yeah, and that's why we've got to be 601 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: so mindful as to what we pass on. If someone 602 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: in the audience is feeling a low sense of confidence, 603 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: low sense of self esteem, a low sense of even 604 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: self worth, maybe they've been told they're not worth anything, 605 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: Maybe they've been made to feel that they're not enough. 606 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: What's the first step to building that confidence as an adult? 607 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: Like you said with your child, he he already has it? No, 608 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: already has it. You had to build it over time. 609 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: I had to build it over time too. What was 610 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 2: that first step in building real, true, deep confidence? 611 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: The first step was to understand that everyone is going 612 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: through something. Everyone has a story, everyone has a condition. 613 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: So I remember when I was nineteen years old and 614 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: it was a transitional time where I decided to do 615 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: music and turned down my scholarship right and a year 616 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: had gone by and I was a depressed person. It 617 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: was my first battle of depression because things weren't going 618 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: my way yet. It was God's timing. But you know, 619 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: you try and control the timing of life, and it's 620 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: like good luck with that. So anyway, I remember I 621 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: stopped to pump some gas at a place my mom 622 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: told me never to stop. And I was visiting my 623 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: girlfriend at the time that went to Michigan State. And 624 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: on the way from Detroit to Michigan State, there's a 625 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: place called how Michigan, and it's like one of the KKK, 626 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: Like it's like one of their headquarters, like not too 627 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: far from Detroit, which is one of the blackest cities, 628 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: and it's like crazy right Jux's position. I saw that 629 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: the exit I had to get gas, and it was 630 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: like you know when you see the gas station right 631 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: off the freeway and it's like, I could I gotta 632 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: be straight if I just go right here and pump gas. 633 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: And I got immediately. I got off and I pulled 634 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: up to the gas station and like just pickup truck 635 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 1: pulls up and they're like you neg, you neg. I 636 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: was like what Like I was like it had me 637 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: like super just like damn, like for real, like that 638 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: that's where we're at, like just two thousand and whatever, 639 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, So I'm like for real, Like I thought 640 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: it was like a joke almost And later on, as 641 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: I was learning more about myself. I'm like, I don't 642 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: know what type, what type of stuff they had going on, like, 643 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: what their upbringing was like, what their parents are like, 644 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: what they could have been abused, they could have just 645 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: not understood the concept and understood who I am as 646 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: a person. Right, So it takes a lot of growth. 647 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: But my point is to say, how do you build 648 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: confidence in yourself? Because that's a moment where my confidence 649 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: got beat to the ground. I felt like crazy, inferior almost. 650 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: You know, how you build your confidence up is you 651 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: start to understand and you don't take things personal. Don't 652 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: take things personal, you don't let things things can hurt you. 653 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: You can see obviously, I'm like still emotional about that 654 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: time because it was such a pivotal moment for me. 655 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: It's not because it's hurtful to me. It's because it 656 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: was a pivotal moment in my development as a man 657 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: that nothing like that could ever affect me anymore, because 658 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: I understand that everyone comes from different walks of life. 659 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: You feel me, they don't think they're wrong, they think 660 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: they're right, as wrong as it is to me. I 661 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: had to realize that there is no real right or 662 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: wrong in this life. There's only a perspective, you know 663 00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So from my perspective I think is wrong, right, 664 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 1: but not from theirs. But the point is when you 665 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: understand yourself more and you appreciate everything you have and 666 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: you start building up yourself mentally, when you start to 667 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: understand that, Okay, some people will just talk smack about 668 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: you for retweets or for whatever, or for to be funny, 669 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: you don't take things as personal and that builds up 670 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: your confidence when you get to know yourself more and more, 671 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: and when you know that you are unstoppable. We have 672 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: the power of a whole universe in us. I say 673 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: that because when you look at it, you think of 674 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: all the stars in the sky. That's exactly how all 675 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: our atoms are, in our cells, in our bodies. They 676 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: make up this like magical type of miracle that's going 677 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: on in us, right that we have like completely taken 678 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: for granted. But it's like we have what it takes 679 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: to create anything. We're like products of God. God is 680 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: in all of us, right, So just remember that that 681 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: you do you can, man, you will, you know, if 682 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: that's what you believe, you will make it happen whatever 683 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: it is whatever. Nothing is off limits. If it was 684 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: off limits, you wouldn't even think of it. You wouldn't 685 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: even it wouldn't even be a thought to you. I 686 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: just want to get that out. 687 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I love that take on confidence 688 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: because I believe confidence comes from noticing how many hard 689 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 2: things you've done and how many hard things you've been through. 690 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: Like that moment you just spoke about, that's not an 691 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: easy moment to live through. And like you said, I 692 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: can see the emotion in your eyes, and I think 693 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 2: everyone can feel it. But it's like when you notice that. See, 694 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: since we were young, we were only taught in school 695 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: to notice what you did well, what you got right. 696 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: You weren't taught to notice how you did hard things. 697 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: And I promise you in this room, each and every 698 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: one of you has already done ridiculously hard things. Maybe 699 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: you live through the death of a loved one, maybe 700 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: you lived through a divorce, Maybe you found yourself after 701 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: a breakup, maybe you were broke and found yourself out 702 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: of that, or maybe you're in it right now in 703 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: one of those transition moments. And I've found that those 704 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: moments of pain unlock your greatest potential because when you 705 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 2: can see yourself at that moment and you can see 706 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: that you've lived through it, So start collecting, start noticing 707 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 2: how many difficult, hard things you've done. I remember, I 708 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: don't think I've talked about it before. I remember my 709 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 2: mom saying something crazy to me. I was going through 710 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: a really hard time in my early thirties and a 711 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: really really tough time, and I was on the phone 712 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: to her, and my mom does not say motivational things 713 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: to me. My mom doesn't say demotivational things to me. 714 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: But she doesn't say motivational things to me. And my 715 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: mom doesn't give me advice. I don't go to my 716 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: mom for advice. I love my mom and I tell 717 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: her I love her, and she tells me she loves me, 718 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: and she just wants to know what I ate for dinner, right, 719 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: Like that's my relationship with my mom. 720 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: Well that's a way of her saying she loves you, right. 721 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And she loves me to bit like she loves me. 722 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 2: Her love has been a shield in my life. But 723 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: I'm on the phone too and she's like, how's things going, 724 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, barely vulnerable with my mom. 725 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 2: And I was like, Mom, you know what, it's just 726 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: a tough time, you know, But I got my head 727 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: down and working hard. And she said to me, well, 728 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 2: you well, you're used to dealing with stress. And I said, 729 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 2: what do you mean, Like you never said this to 730 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: me before, Like when did you become a motivational speaker? 731 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,959 Speaker 2: Like what do you mean? And she goes, she goes, 732 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: You've been used to dealing with stress. And I was like, 733 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: what do you mean, Like you've never said that to 734 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 2: me before. And I never share my stresses with my mom, 735 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: like you said, like she's not the person I'm talking to. 736 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: And she goes, well, you dealt with so much stress 737 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: even when you were in my womb because of what 738 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 2: I was living through at the time. She said that 739 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: to me, and I was like, I was half in tears, 740 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 2: the other half was like full of like confidence. It 741 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 2: was like one of these moments of just like as 742 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 2: if like my whole self we was just like locked 743 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 2: back in together. And obviously I don't have any memory 744 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: of that. 745 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: I was a fat course, yeah right, And it's. 746 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: Say, but what's really fascinating is you've done hard things 747 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: even when you don't remember them, and you don't know 748 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 2: that and it's so important to remind yourself, and it's 749 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: so important to remind the people you love that they've 750 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: done hard things, because when you realize you've done hard things, 751 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: you can do harder things in the future. You find 752 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: confidence within them. So please today, look back at the 753 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: things you've broken through, things you've worked on, the hardships 754 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 2: you've been through, and celebrate your resilience as a human. 755 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: You don't need to wait to become strong. You already are. 756 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, embrace it. 757 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: Right, you already are, Yeah, embrace it. Embrace it. I wanna, oh, 758 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: thank you. I want to pivot slightly. This is something 759 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: we've been trialing and it's been beautiful, and this is 760 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: a real opportunity. So only say yes, only raise your 761 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 2: hand if if you really want to honor this opportunity. 762 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 2: We've been talking about stop caring what people think. We've 763 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 2: been talking about doing a hard things. We've been talking 764 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: about becoming more confident. We've been talking about taking your moment. 765 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: Seeing as we have one of the greatest of all time, 766 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 2: one of the best big show on the stage, I 767 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: wanted to ask you all if there's and I mean 768 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: this for real, if you truly, truly mean it. If 769 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 2: there's a spoken word artist, a poet, a rapper in 770 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: the audience who wants to come on stage for sixty 771 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 2: seconds and spit some bars for us so that we 772 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: can experience their greatness. If you really want this opportunity 773 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,959 Speaker 2: to be your moment, I want you to raise your hand. 774 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: If there's truly a poet or spoken word art. I'm 775 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 2: looking at the back. Is there anyone at the back? 776 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: Stand up? If you saying hi, I'm just looking around. 777 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 2: Stand up at the back. Anyone at the back? There's 778 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 2: one there? Anyone else? I just want to make. 779 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: Sure I see someone up there. 780 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: I want to get someone from the top. Whos Is 781 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: there someone back there? Only if you're going to honor 782 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 2: the opportunity, don't don't steal the opportunity from anyone you're 783 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 2: pointing at him. Come on down, come on down. 784 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Philly has like some of the best musicians. 785 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: That's what I thought. 786 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 1: That's all time, of all time. 787 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: I want it to know. Before we dive into the 788 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: next moment, let's hear from our sponsors. Thanks for taking 789 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 2: a moment for that. Now back to the discussion. 790 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 3: Okay, this is about being in a bad relationship. So 791 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 3: a real bad one. Okay, here we go, all right? 792 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 3: Why do I still love you when you throw beer 793 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 3: in my face, when I feel like you don't listen. 794 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: Or care what I have to say? 795 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 3: Why do I still want you even though you blame 796 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: it all on me when you send me brutal messages 797 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 3: and constantly threaten to leave. Why is it I miss 798 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: you when all we seem to do is fight. Why 799 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: is it still you I want laying next to me 800 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 3: at night. Why do you come to me with your 801 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 3: issues when I can't come to you with mine. It's 802 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 3: because you listen to idiots all day with a preoccupations 803 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 3: and whining. 804 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: This was a therapist. 805 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 3: Why is it always my fault when I know you 806 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 3: play a role too? Why am I always begging? And 807 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: why can't for once it just be you? Oftentimes I 808 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 3: want to give up and just throw the towel in, 809 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 3: but I don't, And I love you but not enough 810 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 3: to wish I didn't. 811 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 4: Ah, thank you. 812 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 5: I'm feeling good, just very nervous. I listen to your podcast, 813 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 5: so I also I'd like to motivate people, okay, because 814 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 5: in life we're supposed to inspire those that need to 815 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 5: be inspired. And everybody needs to be inspired. You know, 816 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 5: we all go through life having problems and trauma an issue, 817 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 5: but deep down inside God is there. And I'm nervous 818 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 5: on stage, But every time I used to get on stage, 819 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 5: there was always nervousness and someone that deals with ADHD 820 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 5: and bipolar, and you know that's a survivor of many things. 821 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: Every single one. 822 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 5: Of y'all out there are special and y'all have something 823 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 5: inside of you. And I also wrap. I got a 824 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 5: little bit supper, Stay focused, never hopeless. Everything I do, 825 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 5: I move with motion. Should a bought a ocean pills 826 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 5: and potions? What's all the commotion? Thought we were moving, 827 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 5: Let's go, this has past since this is my man 828 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 5: ofic and meso. Like Michael Angelo, I said, hello, picture me. 829 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 5: I said, sit down by the lake, plant me by 830 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 5: the sea, deeply loving the rain from above. 831 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: So my mom and dad, I love you. 832 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 5: We had some fallouts, but I had no doubts that 833 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 5: this is the light that God has called me too. 834 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 5: I'm making new revenue with the old in the new. 835 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 2: Way up I phil blast, Yes, amazing courage to come 836 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 2: up here and and go through that. It's it's nerve wracking. 837 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 2: When you actually get up here and you see everyone 838 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 2: and you look around and you know you can't find 839 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: it in your phone, And that's that's the reality. Yeah, 840 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 2: that's the reason why I wanted to do that, and 841 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 2: we've done it at a couple of shows this week. 842 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 2: Is it's the reality because the first time you do it, 843 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,479 Speaker 2: it's never gonna be perfect. You know, like you're gonna 844 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 2: be shaking, You're gonna have your phone where you can't 845 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 2: find it, you're gonna be scared of the mic, You're 846 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 2: gonna be worried. Like that's the reality. And the beauty 847 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: is people just feel your period, right, people just feel 848 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 2: your energy. I think you felt that when you heard 849 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: Morgan you could relate to what she was doing. It 850 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 2: was beautiful and. 851 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: I really loved the concept she was saying too, Like, 852 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: first of all, you wrote a whole book on you know, 853 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,240 Speaker 1: relationships and love and pertaining to that, and I wanted 854 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: to ask you, when you are per se in a 855 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: relationship with someone, right, that isn't beneficial for you? Right? 856 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: And it could be abusive in some ways depending on 857 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: how you look at it. Like you know, how Morgan 858 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: was describing her poem, like what advice would you give 859 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: to anyone who is dealing with a relationship of that 860 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: that they just can't seem to shake. And you know, 861 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: the funny thing about that is, like she even said 862 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: it in her poem that as bad as it is 863 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: and you separate, it's like you keep craving it back. 864 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: And I wonder why that is, Like why do you 865 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 1: keep craving it? Why do you only remember the good things? 866 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 1: Why do you kind of like put all the red 867 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: flags to the side. And you know, I feel like 868 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: that's a great question to ask you. Yeah, no, not 869 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: don't mean like that. 870 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 2: No, no, no, you know, when I think it comes 871 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 2: to love, the hard part is we all want to 872 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 2: be seen sometimes. The tough part is this is the truth. Actually, 873 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go a bit deep on this 874 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: because I feel you deserve it and I feel you 875 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 2: or crave it and want it from me, And so 876 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna say how I really see it. 877 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,720 Speaker 2: The moment you recognize that no human can truly see 878 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: you the way God and you can see yourself, You're 879 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:49,919 Speaker 2: free because that was never their job. It was God's job. 880 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 2: Like when you recognize that you're the only person You 881 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 2: and God are the only people that really know everything 882 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 2: You've been through, everything you've lived through, every emotion, every breath, 883 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 2: every moment you spoke, every moment in silence, every single moment. 884 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 2: The only person who's documented that is you and God. 885 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 2: And so when you free people of the expectation to 886 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 2: understand you, fully see you, fully comprehend you, you free 887 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 2: yourself of having to do that for everyone as well, 888 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: because you know you don't have the capacity either. So 889 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 2: what it does is it creates greater trust and faith 890 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 2: in the divine in yourself, and it creates greater compassion 891 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 2: for others. And I think that's what we're all really 892 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 2: looking for. We just all want a bit of grace 893 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 2: from the people that we love that we can't understand perfectly. 894 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: We all want a bit of compassion for not always 895 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 2: showing up as our best selves even when we try, 896 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 2: because we know we're all trying, but we don't always 897 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 2: meet that mark. And so if we can offer more 898 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 2: grace and compassion to others, and we can offer more 899 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 2: trust and surrender to our God, I think that's where 900 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,240 Speaker 2: real love starts. 901 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and honoring yourself too, Right, You've got to really 902 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: honor yourself in that, Like the strength it takes sometimes 903 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: to drastically change your life is nothing more drastic than 904 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: when you have to change someone you spend so much 905 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: time with by choice, not because they passed away, not 906 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: because of anything else, but because you need to better yourself. 907 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: And the strength that that takes, it's nothing to like 908 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: downplay or anything. So I think that comes from it 909 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: all comes back from working on yourself right and like 910 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: really being confident enough in yourself and all these things 911 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: we've been talking about to be strong enough to be you. 912 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: Because sometimes when you're in a relationship, you lose parts 913 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: of yourself and you guys kind of become this one 914 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: thing together. It's kind of like a factory when all 915 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: the lights are on, and sometimes you shut off certain 916 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: parts of yourself and like this gets shut down and 917 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: that gets shut down, and you're kind of just a 918 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: fraction maybe of like the person you were. So the 919 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: beautiful thing is is when you recognize that and you 920 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: split from someone and you turn on all these other 921 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: parts of yourself and you're like the full version of you. 922 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: I think that is the best version to bring to 923 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: a relationship, and that is how you know It shouldn't 924 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: be one half make a hole. It should be two 925 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: holes make something greater. You know what I mean? 926 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: So absolutely well said, thank you, Sean. You've done the 927 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 2: final five before on the podcast, I want to end 928 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 2: with one last segment with you. We call it Past, Present, 929 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 2: Future And behind you you're going to see a picture 930 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 2: pop up in a second. Can we get the first please? 931 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 1: That's back. Oh that's that's young Sean right there. That's 932 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: a little Sean. Yeah, I was. I was a point 933 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: guard on the for my school and we actually want 934 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: a championship in the eighth grade in our league. And 935 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, everyone thought, like all the parents would be like, 936 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't look like he's in eighth grade, but I 937 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: look like I'm in eighth grade to me. Yeah. That 938 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,439 Speaker 1: was man, that was some good times right there. 939 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 2: What advice would you give to that younger part self 940 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 2: of yours in eighth grade? 941 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,959 Speaker 1: Just have fun quick, get out your head so much. 942 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: Just have fun and like you don't realize how young 943 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: you are when you're that young, you know what I'm saying. 944 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: Of just being care free, no bills, no like I 945 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: would just say, have more fun, have more fun. 946 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:29,919 Speaker 5: Man. 947 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 2: I love that. 948 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, quit being so hard on yourself. 949 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's get the second picture. This is you today? 950 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to. 951 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 2: Ask you, what do you need to hear right now? 952 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 2: What are the words you need to hear right now 953 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 2: in your heart and mind? 954 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: The thing that popped in my head, which I like 955 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: to go with naturally, as simple as it is, is 956 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: that it's gonna be fine as a as a man, 957 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: we always I don't want to characterize all men, and 958 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to say this doesn't apply lot of 959 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: women as well. It does. I can only speak from 960 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: a man's perspective though, that we try and be the 961 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: head of the household and like provide and all these things. 962 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: And it puts a level of responsibility, which is something 963 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: that I am embraced. In turn always has to have 964 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: me do the self work I know, to like not 965 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: let it turn into anxiety and to not let that 966 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: turn into depression, because I can't afford that, you know, 967 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: I don't. It's something that I'm keeping far away from 968 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: my good energy and vibes. But the thing that starts 969 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: is the worry. And it's kind of what I would 970 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 1: tell my younger self, is what I would tell myself now. 971 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: Is to It's going to be fine. No matter what happens, 972 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: It's going to be fine. 973 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 2: This one I've been doing for all my friends this week. 974 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 2: WHOA with the help of AI. With the help of AI, 975 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 2: I've been surprising all my surprising all my friends this week. 976 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 977 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 2: So how old do you think you are that Juan? 978 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: Wow, I would say, like, my dad's age like seventy 979 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: two three. My dad looks good for his age, so 980 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:13,919 Speaker 1: like around. 981 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 2: Your dad looks great. Yeah, when you're that age, what 982 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 2: do you hope? You define success as. 983 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: Fun, fun, having fun. You got to have fun with it. 984 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: And that's one of the biggest pieces of advice I 985 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: could get to anyone is whatever you're doing, just you 986 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: can make it fun. You got a job you hate, 987 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: you got things that are the worst part of your day, 988 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: quote unquote the worst part, you can make it. How 989 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: you approach something literally changes the whole experience of you. 990 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,399 Speaker 1: And that is one of the things like when you are, 991 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: like we were talking about going through hard times, like 992 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: embrace that, like, not only embrace it, celebrate it, because 993 00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 1: that is just proof that you are experiencing parts that 994 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 1: are growing, pains, that you're growing into something. Right, and 995 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: that you not in alignment with whatever it is you're 996 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: going through. So just appreciate that because that, like I said, 997 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: I said this before, like that's just an indication that 998 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: you're meant for something greater. You're some different, some more, 999 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: and that's exciting. You know, life isn't all figured out 1000 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: for you. I mean, how boring would that be? You 1001 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, if everything was just right in 1002 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: front of you and you knew exactly how to how 1003 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: it was going to go, Like, embrace that unknowing. Don't 1004 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: let it tear you down. Don't let it be a 1005 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,359 Speaker 1: fear based way of thinking. You know. Remember, fear is 1006 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: just false evidence appearing real. Don't feed into it, you 1007 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, have fun, make it fun, 1008 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: and know that anywhere you are on earth, that's where 1009 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: you meant to be at and you can have a 1010 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: good time with all the money, with no money, with 1011 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: all the with it whatever, with all the friends, no 1012 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: friends like there are, there's always a way to have 1013 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: a good time. So that's what I feel like, that's 1014 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: what ordered me, That's probably what would be on my heart. 1015 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: And you know, if I'm lucky enough to make it to. 1016 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 2: That give it up for big sure and everyone. If 1017 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 2: this is the year that you're trying to get creative, 1018 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 2: you're trying to build more, I need you to listen 1019 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 2: to this episode with Rick Rubin on how to break 1020 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 2: into your most creative self, how to use unconventional methods 1021 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 2: that lead to success, and the secret to genuinely loving 1022 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 2: what you do. If you're trying to find your passion 1023 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 2: and your lane, Rick Rubin's episode is the one for you. 1024 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 1: Just because I like it, that doesn't give it any value, 1025 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: Like as an artist, if you like it, that's all 1026 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: of the value. 1027 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 2: That's the success comes when you say I like this 1028 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 2: enough for other people to see it.