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Speaker 1: the other ones All lives matter? What is this? Dude?

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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of der Nightley's Dice. It's a production ByHeart Radio.

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Speaker 1: It's a podcast where we take a deep dab into

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Speaker 1: American share capchiness. And it's Tuesday, March fourth, twenty five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the fourth be with Nope, that's not the one. No,

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Speaker 1: let's try that. It's also National Sun's Day. And then

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Speaker 1: the day before as Wednesday, National Grammar Day, National hug

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Speaker 1: a g I Day, unless you're the Veterans Affairs Department,

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Speaker 1: funk away from our way, and you're making us nervous. Stop.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for doing violence in service of

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Speaker 1: the empire. Please get away with the pro hugs.

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Speaker 2: Like we're going to replace all v A Care.

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Speaker 1: But you guys hug each other. We're not doing the hugging. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're not involved with that, just like can you figure

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Speaker 1: that on your own? Now? So National pound.

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Speaker 2: Cake Day, dude, I love pound cake. Yeah sorry, I

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Speaker 2: just want to remind everyone that a cold Sarahly pound

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Speaker 1: Turn it down. My mom, like whenever I had strawberries

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Speaker 1: Blinky Heck, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by

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Speaker 2: Like, nah, no this is Is this an ad for

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Speaker 1: On social media, miles were thrilled to be joined once

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Speaker 1: again in our third see by a brilliant comedian, writer, journalist,

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Speaker 2: Will watch this with what Jahad Ali Tuesdays and Thursdays

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Speaker 2: as we're calling it, America unhinged. We're looking at the

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Speaker 2: first hundred days of Trump's administration. There goes my mental health.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's all exactly. It gets canceled because we fixed

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Speaker 2: Can you feed a cat dog food?

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Speaker 2: Why did this happen? Why did I search this? Because

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Speaker 1: moderate than the mainstream Democratic Party. But miles in terms

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Speaker 1: of like kind of the makeup of this group, who

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Speaker 1: is powering this group? Where's the We've talked before about

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Speaker 1: like the pod save guys talking about how when you're

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Speaker 1: deciding if somebody is a good candidate for office, you

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Speaker 1: go and they were saying this as a critique, but

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Speaker 1: it's just the way, like and this is just the

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Speaker 1: way it is. They're saying, like you just go through

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Speaker 1: their phone and be like, Okay, that's a billion billionaire. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: you actually do qualify you could be a candidate. What

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Speaker 1: what does an organization like this look like? What's it's

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Speaker 1: make leadership foundationally? And it's bones right, because this is

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Speaker 1: a group that got together last month in uh Louden County,

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Speaker 1: Louden County, Virginia to figure out how do we get

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party back on track? How do we reclaim

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Speaker 1: the attention of the working class and the normal American person?

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Speaker 1: And so this group the third way put this, you know,

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Speaker 1: little retreat together with consultants and politicians, their board. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna say the chairperson on the board of trustees

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Speaker 1: of Thirdway dot Org is one Rachel Pritzker. Now you

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Speaker 1: may you might be like, wait, I know that last name. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because of a very it's a very dynastic, wealthy family

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Speaker 1: hotel like the Hyatt hotels. JB. Pritzker, who's also the

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Speaker 1: governor of Illinois, is her cousin. She is the chairperson.

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Speaker 1: So we have somebody who comes from dynastic wealth as

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Speaker 1: the chair of this group third Way. Then you just

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Speaker 1: go through their board of trustees. It's either someone who

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Speaker 1: comes from venture capital, someone who comes from Wall Street,

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Speaker 1: or like an academic who gives it some sort of

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Speaker 1: like intellectual credit or yeah, you know, like just just

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Speaker 1: a little bit of what's the word I'm looking for, Uh,

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Speaker 1: what I might help me intellectual bona fidees bona fide Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Where it's like, well, we have this sociologist who's also

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Speaker 1: on the board who talks about inequality. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: we won't do anything about it, but they are going

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Speaker 1: to board. They have trustees, some sociologists from the Stanford

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Speaker 1: MBA program. Yeah, that's like rich people win get over it.

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Speaker 1: So they came together and Politico, who's also done a

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Speaker 1: real interesting job of reporting since Trump has gone into office,

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Speaker 1: has like sort of un They got a hold of

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Speaker 1: this pdf that has like five pages of like their

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Speaker 1: takeaways as they got together to do a mind meld,

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Speaker 1: and it's so fucking disheartening, but also into it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, before you go into it, because it's really awful.

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Speaker 2: Let's just there's it's really important because the way this

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Speaker 2: or peace was reported on, and even I misunderstood it

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Speaker 2: when I first read it because it's been making the rounds,

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Speaker 2: is that it was like they don't name the Third

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Speaker 2: Way group like politicals like centrist Deems group or like

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Speaker 2: leading Dems. It's very cagy, yeah, which makes it sound

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Speaker 2: like a little bit broader, like more Democrats are buying

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Speaker 2: into this, or that the DNC maybe have something to

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Speaker 2: do with it, or the d triple C you know,

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Speaker 2: and the fundraising arm had something to do with it. No,

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Speaker 2: the Third Way is like notoriously awful, So I just

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Speaker 2: want to name like it's it's not it's not necessarily

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Speaker 2: where the rest of the party, although I have massive

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Speaker 2: questions about where they're going to go, right, but they

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Speaker 2: should definitely not listen to yes, the following recommendation.

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Speaker 1: Right, I think what it is more than anything, shows

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Speaker 1: that there is the fight for the Democratic Party is

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Speaker 1: well and truly on, and right now the Centrists are

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Speaker 1: making their case. They're trying to round the resources to

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Speaker 1: be like it has to be this version of the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party. It can't be this fucking a fringe shit

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Speaker 1: like that AOC is talking about, or stuff where they're

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Speaker 1: talking about like taxing the wealthy. I'm sorry, I'm Rachel Pritzker,

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Speaker 1: Like I can't have a bite taken out of my

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Speaker 1: fortune because of this kind of shit. No, but let's

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Speaker 1: make it sound like something good. So again, this was

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Speaker 1: the third way is comeback retreat, and there's four sections

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Speaker 1: takeaways on why Democrats have a cultural disconnect with the

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Speaker 1: working class, Takeaways on why Democrats are not trusted by

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Speaker 1: the working class, on the economy, then takeaways on how

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Speaker 1: Democrats can reconnect culturally with the working class, and takeaways

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Speaker 1: on how Democrats can rebuild economic trust with working class voters.

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Speaker 2: Is this like they all were given a mirror and

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Speaker 2: just had to hold it up to their own goddamn

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Speaker 2: faces and were like, we are the reason that the

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party is not connected to the world. It's like

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Speaker 2: a do you guys remember the scene? And if I'm

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Speaker 2: a big Fried Green Tomatoes fan, but like to like

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Speaker 2: get to know your body like Kathy Bates, like has

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Speaker 2: air and she looks at her vagina. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: like they need to look at their faces. Look your

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Speaker 2: bank account, look your face, look at your car, look

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Speaker 2: at you know, like who you hang out with?

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Speaker 1: Who is the person you know personally that you have

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Speaker 1: in your phone book that you interact with as a person. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and not a service provider, right, just as just as

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Speaker 1: a question, I think that should be the first question

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Speaker 1: rather how many billionaires you know? Your phone cap and

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Speaker 1: berated the Direct TV guy the other day, Does that count? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I didn't even have aid do it. I just had

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Speaker 1: some steam to blow off. So so I'll read through

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Speaker 1: these and we can stop at whichever one you'd like to,

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Speaker 1: because they're all equally infuriating. But first takeaways on why

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Speaker 1: democrats have a cultural disconnect with the working class. One

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Speaker 1: over emphasis on identity politics too, the faculty lounge problem,

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Speaker 1: which is again they're saying quote Democrats are often viewed

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Speaker 1: as judgmental, out of touch, and dismissive of those without

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Speaker 1: elite education or progressive views. I like how they go,

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Speaker 1: or progressive views very telling, or or us where we

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Speaker 1: don't like that, we feel like weird. They don't. We

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Speaker 1: look down on people who aren't college educated. And also

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Speaker 1: they think we're too woke. Don't ignore. Just to ignore

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Speaker 1: that last part, keep going, it's woke, it's woke. My

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Speaker 1: virus number three, failure to prioritize economic concerns. That's true, true,

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Speaker 1: that's true, But they go it's going to go in

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Speaker 1: an interesting direction. Well, the subhetter is, while voters struggle

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Speaker 1: with jobs, wages, and inflation, Democrats are seen as more

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Speaker 1: focused on cultural and social issues than on economic progress

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Speaker 1: and opportunity. They don't like racism. Well they're also they're

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Speaker 1: not they're not connected in any way. They're not all

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Speaker 1: woven together in this much larger thing called American culture. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Then we weak messaging and communication through fear of dissent

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Speaker 1: within the party. This is where the wheels completely blow off.

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Speaker 1: Now Democrats is again from this document quote, Democrats are

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Speaker 1: perceived as intolerant of internal debate. We're questioning progressive we're

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Speaker 1: questioning progressive orthodoxy, results in backlash rather than open discussion.

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Speaker 1: Candidates and operatives need to feel more comfortable just saying

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Speaker 1: no to activist groups and unpalatable far left ideas. This

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Speaker 1: is again where you're seeing how the fight's playing out.

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Speaker 2: I mean like it's like every heading is like okay,

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Speaker 2: and then their description is like absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, right right exactly.

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Speaker 2: So where does Gaza fit into the fear of dissent

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Speaker 2: within the party?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean like there, this is amazing, right, because this

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Speaker 2: is the whole thing is like we feel like we're

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Speaker 2: being policed and we feel like we have to get

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Speaker 2: in line. Now. Granted, we haven't gotten in line, and

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Speaker 2: we have not listened to our base, and we've ignored

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Speaker 2: the mass movements, whether it's around BLM or around Gaza.

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Speaker 2: We completely ignore them and we punch left and we

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Speaker 2: treat them like shit. Right, but they make us feel

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Speaker 2: bad and we still ignore them. It's just like what

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Speaker 2: you what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Kabla Harrison energy coming into the election and then promptly

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Speaker 1: steered in the direct direction they're suggesting the party go

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Speaker 1: and lost all the momentum exactly righteah, yeah right. Attachment

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Speaker 1: to unpopular institutions very weird.

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Speaker 2: The ones that are now being obliterated by Elon so

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Speaker 2: Republican light got it, got.

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Speaker 1: Got right, allowing the far left to define the party.

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Speaker 1: Activist groups and progressive staffers push unpopular cultural positions, making

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Speaker 1: it seem like Democrats are more extreme than they actually are.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck are you talking about? Operatives and campaigns.

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Speaker 1: Must remember that activist groups exist to promote their single

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Speaker 1: issue and raise money around it, not to make Democrats

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Speaker 1: electable reactionary rather than proactive. Over reliance on buzzwords and

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Speaker 1: political correctness hikes and ten, lack a positive national identity message. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Democrats focus too much on America's flaws racism, sexism, inequality

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Speaker 1: without acknowledging the country's progress and potential, making them seem

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Speaker 1: pessimistic and unpatriotic. This is just so very much. Just

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Speaker 1: got their ass kicked in an election where the opposing

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Speaker 1: side did nothing but talk about how America was a

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Speaker 1: complete shithole. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah again. It's

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Speaker 1: very right, right right, it is wild? Where again you this?

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Speaker 1: This next part takeaways on why Democrats are not trusted

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Speaker 1: by the working class On the economy. They could all

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Speaker 1: be summed up in one sentence, which is we cape

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Speaker 1: for capitalism and the status quo and nothing else. That's

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Speaker 1: the problem every time. So the first one vilification of wealth.

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Speaker 1: Democrats are seen as hostile to success, indifferent to people's

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Speaker 1: desire to attain wealth, while reflexively attacking wealthy business leaders

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Speaker 1: instead of promoting economic mobility and aspiration. Hm disconnected messaging

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Speaker 1: like everything is just so. Democrats focus on broad economic

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Speaker 1: indicators instead of acknowledging real struggles like high prices and

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Speaker 1: stagnant wages, making voters feel dismissed and unheard. Yeah you can,

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Speaker 1: this is the problem. You'll point, you'll gesture to the problems,

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Speaker 1: but you'll never fucking wrestle with the issues. That's that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is just wild.

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Speaker 2: Like, first of all, these are complete nincome poops number one,

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Speaker 2: but number one and number two of why democrats are

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Speaker 2: not trusted by the working class are completely antithetical to

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Speaker 2: one another. We have disconnected messaging. We don't actually make

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Speaker 2: it clear that we understand and listen to voters' economic concerns.

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Speaker 2: When grocery prices are exorbitantly high, they can't afford childcare,

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Speaker 2: on and on and on. But people are being too

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Speaker 2: mean to corporations and we can vilify the wealthy. This

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Speaker 2: is the problem. This is but this is actually why

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden failed in a lot of ways beyond the

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Speaker 2: butcher Biden you know, last fifteenth you know year of

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Speaker 2: his presidency was really about like, Okay, we're going to

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Speaker 2: sort of nibble around the edges, pass and reforms, go

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Speaker 2: after you know, monopolies, but we're not going to do

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Speaker 2: it hard enough or swift enough to actually make real

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Speaker 2: gains that impact people's lives. And we're going but we're

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Speaker 2: gonna still piss off the one percent, and we're never

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Speaker 2: going to gain popular so port for these programs and

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Speaker 2: for these things like stopping the price gouging or making

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Speaker 2: sure that you know, you know, Apple and Google and

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Speaker 2: Amazon are you know, have to break up or sell

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Speaker 2: off certain companies or we're you know, we're suing them

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Speaker 2: all that we're not going to make these very valiant

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Speaker 2: policies that we are enacting actually popular because we're not

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Speaker 2: gonna specifically vilify the one percent. Like in order to

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Speaker 2: connect to people economically, you have to vilify the wealth.

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Speaker 2: You have to vilify the one percent. It gives people

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Speaker 2: something to latch onto and that's you know, that's why

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Speaker 2: Trump is so successful is because he's demonizing immigrants, trans people,

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Speaker 2: women like, we understand that, So give them the opposite,

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Speaker 2: say the ninety nine percent versus the one percent. It's

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Speaker 2: what catapulted the occupy movement into Bernie Sanders two time

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Speaker 2: near electoral win.

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Speaker 1: So it's just like, yeah, the one percent, but the

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Speaker 1: one percent is running everything, so how can we expect

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Speaker 1: them to even have this like this one part too.

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Speaker 1: Failure to address economic anxiety is another one where it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no shit, but again they just go on to just

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Speaker 1: like talk around the issue. Another one is nine the

639
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Speaker 1: breakroom versus the boardroom. Democratic economic messages often come from

640
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Speaker 1: elite celebrities and politicians rather than working class voices that

641
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: voters can relate to. What you're saying is, yes, the

642
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: party has been captured by the hyper wealthy, so you're

643
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Speaker 1: inherently going to have it to communication to our wording,

644
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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen with Rachel Pritzker or people

645
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Speaker 1: of that ilk at the helm of a political party.

646
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Speaker 1: They have absolutely is so far out of their vagina

647
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Speaker 1: and a mirror.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 1: Just say that just look at it for us. At

650
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Speaker 1: it for a second and it'll be.

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Speaker 2: Actually it's not nearly as nice as doing that, but like, yeah,

652
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Speaker 2: it's this is No one should take anything these people

653
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Speaker 2: say seriously. And it's really annoying that the way that

654
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Speaker 2: the political article was spun was made it seem like

655
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Speaker 2: this wasn't the third everybody knows a third way. Organization

656
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: has been like tone deaf. Now the problem is is

657
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: that people you know, like James Carville will pair it

658
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Speaker 2: a lot of these points, and many people pay it

659
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Speaker 2: these points, which is basically like we need to get

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Speaker 2: rid of the racial justice component, which is not really

661
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: even a component. It's just sort of a lip service

662
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: that we pay to real equity in this country. Get

663
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: rid of all that language because weren't actually doing anything

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Speaker 2: to implement it. Also hop on board with DEI programs,

665
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: DIA programs, which are again stopgap measures that mostly make

666
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Speaker 2: ourselves look better and so we don't have to address

667
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: structural issues economic issues broadly like this is. And then

668
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Speaker 2: the last thing like don't make me look at twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five and like miss Obama, like don't make me

670
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Speaker 2: miss the way. The one thing that Obama was actually

671
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: able to do well, which was I think, give some

672
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: sort of narrative structure to this democracy that we live in.

673
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 2: Is specifically when it comes to like multiracial democracy, a

674
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: country that is still in formation, in the making, that

675
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: is a sum of its parts, you know that its

676
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: best days are ahead, not behind, but truly with again

677
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: this like call it it's not post racial, but of

678
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: course in the minds of a lot of white people,

679
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: this like post racial. Everyone's moving forward, you know, we

680
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: can do it together. Like like, it's just so wild

681
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: that we live in a time where like two thousand

682
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Speaker 2: and nine seemed really hopeful, you know, And and I

683
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Speaker 2: say that as someone who in two thousand and nine

684
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: was actually not that hopeful, and of course was like

685
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Speaker 2: everyone else many progress is very disappointed. But like, it's

686
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: not that hard to have a narrative of multi racial

687
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Speaker 2: democracy that is inclusive, where there's an economy that works

688
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: for all people. It's fucking really simple to articulate that,

689
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Speaker 2: and many politicians do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like just something about this, especially

691
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Speaker 1: in third way and knowing how wealthy the people are

692
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Speaker 1: behind it too, or like they they can they're reading

693
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Speaker 1: the room that the clock is take for people like

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Speaker 1: for just ignoring the wealth hoarding that's happening from the

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Speaker 1: like the very wealthy, and I think they're trying to

696
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: like dance around it in this way where they're like, ah,

697
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: it's a problem, but I certainly don't know how to

698
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: contend with it. That ends up with me having less

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Speaker 1: than I already do. And that's that's a totally that's

700
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Speaker 1: because all this stuff just reads to me is it's

701
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: pro inequality propaganda, like all of these talking points, and

702
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: if that's your worldview, if you're pro inequality or just

703
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: indifferent to inequality, all of these talking points are very

704
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: easy for you to pairrot and act like you're analyzing

705
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: and observing a problem and that maybe there's something to

706
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: be done about it, but you are falling short of

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00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: the actual work of saying we actually have to begin

708
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: to dismantle these structures if we want a tangible effect,

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Speaker 1: if we want voters to actually have some kind of

710
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: tangible outcome that they can then connect to this party

711
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, you know what, I trust them, I'll

712
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: vote for them because I can see they understand what's

713
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: at stake and they're contending with it than trying to

714
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Speaker 1: be like the problem is and this they say this

715
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Speaker 1: in their document, small dollar donors, that's a thing to be.

716
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Speaker 1: That's a remedy they're putting in here. Revised democratic fundraising

717
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: parties move away from the dominance of small dollar donors

718
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Speaker 1: whose preferences may not align with the broader electric Aka,

719
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Speaker 1: stop listening to the people who were trying to who's

720
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Speaker 1: trust we're trying to regain and just just get all

721
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Speaker 1: the money from our wealthy friends.

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Speaker 2: It is a complete nonsensical document because it's just full

723
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: of these hypocrisies. The small dollar donors, I eat many

724
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: many people, don't represent many many people.

725
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Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying.

726
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Speaker 2: No, nobody knows what you're saying. It doesn't make any sense.

727
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: And again, this is what's gonna look guys, this is

728
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: what gets us fascism. This kind of thinking. Yeah, lines

729
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: in the Sanda been drawing, y'all, there's a class war.

730
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Speaker 2: Which side are you on? Okay, stop fucking caping like

731
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: you care when you want to maintain you know, tax

732
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Speaker 2: structure the way it is. When you're not actually really

733
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: going to address wealth inequality, shut up, Just go go

734
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: over to the side of the room of the gymnasium

735
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: with all the billionaires because we don't need you anymore.

736
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Speaker 2: We understand, Like truly though, I'm just like so sick

737
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: of these people, you know, helping the Democratic Party and

738
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: its tail spin and it's their fucking nose dives, because

739
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: this is this is what the Kamala Harris campaign did.

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Speaker 1: It's exactly what these things. Yes, yeah, the I mean,

741
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Speaker 1: so the playbook, I feel like for the Democratic Party,

742
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: both successfully and unsuccessfully, has been promised progressive change, like

743
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Speaker 1: big radical change and then govern as a right leaning

744
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: York photocracy and like that playbook and not.

745
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Speaker 2: Even really do the former, like not even really promise

746
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Speaker 2: broad right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, just like gesture esthetically, Obama felt like he

748
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: was offering revolutionary change, hope and change, you know, but

749
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Speaker 1: then like out really in any sort of real way

750
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Speaker 1: did A was I mean, like.

751
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Speaker 2: You know, ACA was a good like when I'm I'm

752
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: even again, I put Obama in a separate category at

753
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Speaker 2: this point, like Kamala Harris did not run an Obama

754
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: campaign at all. There was no big idea and again

755
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: there was so much working against her and on and

756
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: on and on, but like this is useless.

757
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean really. Yeah, I feel like because

758
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: people have been fooled by this so long, and like, yes,

759
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: the Obama like ACA was something, it was also written

760
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: by the insurance industry, and like I think the big

761
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: original sin that people can't get past is the bailing

762
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: out of Wall Street. And yeah, like but so the

763
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Speaker 1: two options seem to be like promise progressive and then

764
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Speaker 1: government progressive. If you're not going to do the promise

765
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Speaker 1: progressive and then govern as a corporatography, it's promised progressive

766
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Speaker 1: and then government progressive or promise corporatography and govern the

767
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Speaker 1: way you've always been governing.

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Speaker 2: And which why would if you're a corporation, now, why

769
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 2: the like, why would you ever throw it down with Democrats? Again,

770
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: the Republicans are promising you the moon and the stars, right,

771
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: I mean they are truly doing you a massive service.

772
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, unless you rely on things like

773
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: snap benefits to underpay your workers so they don't come

774
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: at you with a knife and shit, right, then that

775
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: would suck for you Walmart and others. But like, again,

776
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: the line of the sand has been drawn and the

777
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: corporations and you've got rub and diego going and like

778
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: trying to you know, fundraise with Marc Andreessen and other

779
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: you know crypto crypto bros. And be like we're good too,

780
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: Like you can't offer them what they want.

781
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: No, and also like open up your let's let's see

782
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: the donations you've gotten from that sector, because we all

783
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: know what time it is. They just bought you as

784
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: a voice to normalize crypto for their own aim. And

785
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: like we've talked about before, they were the biggest industry

786
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Speaker 1: that was spending this last election cycle to get pro

787
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: crypto talking points out to Democrats and republics. The one

788
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: thing though, too, which goes along with all this, one

789
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: of their takeaways for how they can rebuild economic trust

790
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: is to quote number five, be pro aspiration and pro

791
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Speaker 1: capitalism in a smart way. Recognize that working class voters

792
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: value upward mobility and economic success, have a prosperity gospel

793
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Speaker 1: aimed at the working class, call out corporate abuses individually

794
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: instead of attacking quote corporations as a whole. Now, pro

795
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: aspiration is such a fucking violent, fucked up term in

796
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: this context where it's like not that you're saying, provide

797
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: people with this tangible path. It's like they like upward mobility,

798
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Speaker 1: but That's why we use the word aspirational, because that

799
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're delivering. That means you have the hope

800
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Speaker 1: that it will happen. That doesn't mean you have to.

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Speaker 2: Do use words like grindset, mindset more and uh, you know,

802
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Speaker 2: life hack.

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Speaker 1: Hustler of the Month is going to get a Lambeau

804
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: brought to you by the DNC.

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Speaker 2: I mean truly, truly, it's like, like, okay, so instead

806
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: of free college tuition, you want to lie to people

807
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: exactly the way that Republicans lie to them. And no

808
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: one's saying that the allure of a get out of

809
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: capitalism free card or like being able to get a

810
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: bunch of money through crypto doesn't exist precisely because of

811
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Speaker 2: the moment that we're in, and honestly precisely because the

812
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: Democratic Party has lost their way, you know, since FDR

813
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: and since it's embrace of neoliberalism. But I'm very excited

814
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight for the fucking for Gavin Newsom

815
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Speaker 2: to trot out Bill fucking Clinton again and again and again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. One of the things is like hanging out

817
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Speaker 1: with like meeting them where they are at tailgates and

818
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Speaker 1: gun shows, which is just and and I think small

819
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Speaker 1: town diners, which first of all, like loaning in tailgates,

820
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Speaker 1: gun shows, local restaurants. This is written by the most

821
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Speaker 1: billionaire motherfucker, Like you know, tailgates and gun shows, local restaurants.

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Speaker 2: And it's all white coated, right, isn't that just white coated?

823
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, this is all going for like conservative

824
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Speaker 1: Middle America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, unsuccessful Democratic candidates have been trying to

827
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Speaker 1: lean into gun culture and failing since Ducaccus in eighty

828
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Speaker 1: right when he like drove that fucking tank like carry

829
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Speaker 1: had an infamous gun photo op Kamala kept ragging about

830
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Speaker 1: how she had a glock like it just it feels

831
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Speaker 1: like they've got taken taken. Like the twenty twenty four

832
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Speaker 1: election is just like let's double down on listening to

833
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: the exact wrong people who told us all the things

834
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Speaker 1: that made us lose. Yeah. Well, then you also have

835
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: like senators like Chris Murphy who are like kind of

836
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Speaker 1: kind of like having an internal debate with themselves about

837
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: seeing the light where they're like, I think it's like

838
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: we gotta listen to like these poor people man, and

839
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: like we're just not doing a good job. But also shit.

840
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm hard to determine.

841
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't even care are I was like, uh huh, yeah,

842
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: I know, which is like it all feels performative because

843
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like these people, their

844
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: entire existence is rooted in the fact that this system

845
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: stays the same. So I can't really it's hard for

846
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Speaker 1: me to believe that they now have this steal to

847
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: go after to start to even begin to reckon with

848
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: all of these structures that exacerbate the very income or

849
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: the inequality that they're saying is causing a disconnect. It's like, well,

850
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Speaker 1: we're not going to contend with the issue, but we

851
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: need to figure out how to tell them that the

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00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: sky is blue when this shit is black.

853
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Speaker 2: Back in twenty twenty, I did a news Broke episode

854
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: that was basically like how to Beat Trump and one

855
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: of the bullet points, which is one that we just

856
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: you could just erase this entire thing and just have

857
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: one bullet point, which is be authentic, and I would

858
00:45:53,239 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: revise that and just say believe in something, literally, believe something.

859
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: Pick a thing to actually believe in.

860
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: We believe Santa.

861
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: For me, that's it exactly, Like I don't even give

862
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 2: a shit of its Santa. If it's Santa, sell me

863
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: on Santa, but I need you to actually believe it.

864
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: I think the thing about Santa, he's given too many

865
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: handouts to people that don't deserve it. You know, wait what,

866
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: you're just boomerang that.

867
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: Santa is a nice idea. That's a good concept, but

868
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: really they should be earned stocking stuffers. And you know,

869
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: if you don't pay into the stalking system, it should

870
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: be sort of based on your own income.

871
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: How many toys? I just hate that they basically are

872
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: taking treat human beings with dignity and respect and saying

873
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: that this is radical far left thinking. Like because if

874
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: you just tell someone, you don't have to evoke any

875
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: kind of political theory here, just be like this, here's

876
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: your platform. We believe that you have the right to

877
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: healthcare without going bankrupt because your body gets fucked up

878
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: from maybe the myriad of threat vectors we put in

879
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: the environment to to you know, corporate activity. Whatever. Healthcare. Okay,

880
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: you should be able to have a roof over your head.

881
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: If you would like an education, that should be attainable

882
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: for you at any kind. You want to learn a trade,

883
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: you want to go to university. Okay, we got that

884
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: covered food. What else? Healthcare? Childcare, that your children will

885
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: be safe. That's really those are so broad that it

886
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: would be hard like you're not I mean, some conservatives

887
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: will be like, we're trying to give a handout, but

888
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: other people they are clamoring for things to be more

889
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: affordable or their lives to be less shitty. Just articulate

890
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: that in a way that is just talking about it's

891
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: just like the basics. It's really just the basics, but

892
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: it's it's much easier for it to get like sort

893
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: of muddled in this kind of like think tank talk

894
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: and then have places like Politico be like, all right,

895
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: this is like this is kind of what might be

896
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: the new normal way for the Democratic Party, or at

897
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: least we'll give this the most attention. So no version

898
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: that seems too fucking quote radical takes hold, and you know,

899
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: people start looking the other also.

900
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 2: You know, it's like if you really want to learn

901
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: from the Republicans, because all this is is looking at

902
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: the other side more like hey, they're good good, and like,

903
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: you know, I do understand this idea of like speaking

904
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: to people wanting to get ahead, and our intense individualism

905
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: and all this and people liking money and people not

906
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 2: wanting the collective, and that's going to take a long

907
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: many years to rebuild that sense of collectivity of a

908
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 2: real like yes, an American identity that is about equal

909
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: protection under the law, that is about everyone getting an opportunity.

910
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: Like there's been so much hollowing out of the government.

911
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: Many people believe obviously all this shit is dead if

912
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: it ever were alive. But I'm like thinking about it,

913
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, Okay, universal education like free tuition. Right,

914
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: let's say community colleges, state schools to begin with. And

915
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 2: if you don't want to take advantage of free university tuition,

916
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: you can get money instead. It's like, so you get

917
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: it's like putting money in people's posts. People love money,

918
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: and so it's like, you know what I'm saying, It's

919
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: like something like that where it's like it feels like

920
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: socialism to a kind of exactly. It Also, if you

921
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: don't like exactly, you could get money to go to

922
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: a trade school or like start your own business right

923
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 2: out of college or high school, whatever you want. But

924
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: we want to promote you going to school you freely

925
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: and fair you know, all that we think everyone should

926
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: have an economic I mean educational opportunity like that, but

927
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: also here's money. Like if ins said you don't like

928
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: things like that, that would be an interesting creative way

929
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: to address this moment that we're in, but also talk

930
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: about what can actually solve you know, yeah, you know

931
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: the moment that we're in.

932
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: Or they talk about, oh, people love aspirational stuff and

933
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: like they're driven or whatever. That's because there's no fucking

934
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: middle class. If there was a middle class, people wouldn't

935
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: be aspiring to be lambeau driving, like jet hopping, fucked

936
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: with sex traffickers because they look at that as being like, well,

937
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: those are the option. Those are like if I want

938
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: to go on a trip, like have like a nice dinner,

939
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: look like I have to be hyper wealthy because my

940
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: job that used to be able to afford someone a

941
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: very normal, enjoyable life, that fucking vision is gone. So

942
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: that's what they're aspiring to. It's not that they want,

943
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily, but the example that we have in society

944
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: is that you must have X amount of dollars for

945
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: this experience to be enjoyable. Yeah, just those people in

946
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: extreme version, those people putting me in pain, and that's

947
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: those are your two options. Be the one who's getting

948
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: fucked over and scammed, or be the scammer or the

949
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: person's like making all the money and your stupid yeah

950
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: is also part of it. Let's take a quick break,

951
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll say a quick goodbye to Skype.

952
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Goodbye Skype, and we're back and

953
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: good bye Skype. All right, that is our episode. Oh

954
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: you didn't hear so Skype is about to die. Uh

955
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: it will ring for the last time on May fifth,

956
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: single to mile. Yeah. Yeah, they're going out big part

957
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: in bio And it's just it's kind of worth taking

958
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: a step back and asking has any tech company fumbled

959
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: its place quite like Skype? Like we used the word

960
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: Skype as a verb to describe what Zoom now does. Yes,

961
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: And when the pandemic hit, everyone just was like, no,

962
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: fuck Skype, We're going to Zoom. Because Microsoft had acquired

963
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: Skype for eight point five billion dollars in twenty eleven,

964
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: it's not like they had just like gotten an infusion.

965
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 1: They had it for eight solid years, nine solid years.

966
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: Well, they did launch Microsoft spaces was it spaces Space?

967
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: Well now, so basically they're just shifting this over to teams.

968
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: Teams I forgot.

969
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Google Spaces, Google Spaces, Microsoft Teams. It's easy

970
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: to tell apart. And it's why so much? Yes, yes,

971
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: every week quite a bit.

972
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 2: I've created five accounts.

973
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: What's going on? They basically tried so once they got

974
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: that big investment acquisition by Microsoft, they just like started

975
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: trying to be everything X everything app. They started trying

976
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: to be like they created their own like emoji system

977
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: called Moji's. They call it's called moojis. They're like emojis, No,

978
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: they're mojis, and actually you get you get fined if

979
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: you say if you put the E in there. Can

980
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: you imagine in that pitch meeting, they're like, and we

981
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: have Moji's and they're like, is that just emojis? No? No, no,

982
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: man five ads yeah, something about seven minute abbs. Yeah.

983
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: They also tried to like be Snapchat. They put put

984
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of features together from Snapchat. The developers just

985
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: did not focus on the core functionality of making sure

986
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: the video call quality remained. And so I think the

987
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: thing was just like when you when the pandemic hit,

988
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: you could just have like a zoom link and like

989
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: you could just use it like for free basically, like

990
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: you didn't have to like set up a thing and

991
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: like connect it to your phone number, like have a

992
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: separate you know. It was just easy to use, and

993
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: they were just like not there yet.

994
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: It was browser based, right, I mean that's isn't that

995
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: the whole thing?

996
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, sky gon app, though they have an app, It's

997
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: just like it wasn't as easy to use. It wasn't no,

998
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: but no one.

999
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 2: Would send you a skypelink and be like join my

1000
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: meeting or join my call.

1001
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: Right, that's just like you had to it was. It

1002
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: felt more like they were still in the world at

1003
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: first phones. Yeah, yeah, like you had to like Skype me,

1004
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: here's my user name.

1005
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 2: You know, this is upsetting to me because I used

1006
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: Skype well for a very long distance relationship for a

1007
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: long time, so that was like pivotal, Like all my

1008
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: Skype is like, you know, falling in love with my

1009
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: ex you know.

1010
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: Through Skype.

1011
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: Wow, Skype yad you know, as we used to say,

1012
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: and uh. And then also I used Skype to call

1013
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 2: people when I want to hide my phone number. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1014
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: you know, like all the people I stock mostly did

1015
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: representatives and so I don't know how. I guess I

1016
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: could do that with a Google Voice number, but I'm

1017
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to do that because I

1018
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: don't want people tracking me back to my phone.

1019
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: Sure yeah yeah, Google Voice, Google Voice help Google Voice

1020
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: the move. But Burner Phone shout out to Skype. We

1021
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: hardly knew ye a mere twenty years in existence.

1022
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: This is just like it's like you know, the comedian

1023
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: I e Me, who didn't you know, start learning TikTok

1024
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: during the pandemic really screwed up. Yeah, it's like Skype,

1025
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 2: what are you doing?

1026
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, oh god.

1027
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: But also just such a waste because they didn't need

1028
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: the money. I mean, that's what monopoly does, where you're

1029
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: like in other hands, I'm I like to think, and

1030
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about running a business, but like

1031
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: Skype would have been it, they would have maintained it.

1032
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: But it's like if you don't really need I don't know,

1033
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm just like one of.

1034
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: Your company, then you're like, yeah, whatever, fool, I got

1035
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: my payday right exactly.

1036
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: Zoom isn't Microsoft.

1037
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: You're like a satellite branch in like some part of Microsoft.

1038
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: That's just yeah, being ignored and mismanaged quietly behind closed doors.

1039
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: So now it is truly just Zoom and like Google meets.

1040
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 1: Zoom and team and teams of course, and Zoom hasn't been.

1041
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: Acquired or Zoom is just like the Zoom Empire.

1042
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: Now are he zooms its own thing now? Yeah, we're

1043
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: in the zoom age.

1044
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah yeah until Elon buys it for.

1045
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: However much Francesca, it's it's been a pleasure as always

1046
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: having you on the daily. Where can people find you?

1047
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: Hear you?

1048
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: Like every time we have like multiple stories and then

1049
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: I just talk so much that we don't get to.

1050
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: That is every episode of the show episode, no matter

1051
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:15,959
Speaker 1: the guest.

1052
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 2: Dude, you can I feel that. I mean I feel

1053
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: I never feel rushed. So thank you and thanks for listening.

1054
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: Uh you can find me at Franni fou on all

1055
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: the socials and listen to the Situation Room where you

1056
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: get your podcasts, or watch it live on YouTube at

1057
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: Franni Theo. But also if you really want to come

1058
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 2: see me, I'll be doing stand up with my husband

1059
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 2: Matt Leeb on Sunday, March sixteenth in Sacramento and then

1060
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: May seventh, which is a Wednesday at Cobbs Comedy in

1061
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: San Francisco, and it's going to be.

1062
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: So so fun two days after the Skype funeral.

1063
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, that's right, we're gonna Yeah, we're gonna pour one.

1064
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: Out for some guy Irish wake for Skype. Yeah.

1065
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 2: And if you are in Pasadena, if you're in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: I'll be March twenty sixth at the Ice House. I

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Speaker 2: have my show New World Disorder monthly stand up show there.

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Speaker 1: It'll be good. Nice. Is there a workymedia that you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying?

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Speaker 2: Okay, there is a skeet. Yeah, we call it made I.

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Speaker 1: Just in this household their skeets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're skeets. There's a skeet Amy Brown and I

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Speaker 2: hadn't seen this joke before, so I'm attributing it to

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Speaker 2: Amy Brown, who said, I'm not the first to say it,

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Speaker 2: but I do sort of see where Jade Vance's mom

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Speaker 1: Miles, Where can people find you? Is there a workimedia

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Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Yeah? Find me everywhere They have at

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Speaker 1: Symbols at Miles of Gray, and also find Jacket out

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Speaker 1: on the basketball podcast Miles and Jacket Adam Bustie's. You

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Speaker 1: can also find me with Sofia Alexander talking ninety day

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Speaker 1: on four twenty day Fiance. A couple streets I like.

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Speaker 1: First one is John Boys, John Bois, I said. Next

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Speaker 1: door started sending me email digest I never asked for

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Speaker 1: but I'm really glad they did. Someone just posted a

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Speaker 1: photo of a parked car with a door open, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: heads up in case this is your car. Someone asked

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Speaker 1: if they closed it. They said no, because what if

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Speaker 1: I close it and the car explodes? Sounds like some

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Speaker 1: next door ass logic. And then Emma Burkwist at Emma

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Speaker 1: Broquist dot bescati social But god, it must be so

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Speaker 1: easy to be a dem consultant, just sitting around making

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty k a year to say things like, actually,

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Speaker 1: voters don't want healthcare, they want you to go to

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Speaker 1: gun shows and start using the word orientals again. All right.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore, o

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Speaker 1: Brian on Blue Sky at Jack ob the number one

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Speaker 1: I like to tweet from lesbian Mothman at very Small

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Speaker 1: River tweeted, shortening cilantro to slaunch. I like it. That's great,

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Speaker 1: good Irish. There a Brieve slaunch. Yet. You can find

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter at daily Zeke and on Blue Sky

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Speaker 1: at Daily's like Ice. We're at the Daily Chased on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page on a website Daily

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Speaker 1: zeikes dot com where we post our episodes and our

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Speaker 1: footnotes where we link off to the information that we

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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as the song

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Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a

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Speaker 1: song you think people might enjoy? Yeah, there is a

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Speaker 1: track called I Remember. It's like two Eyes and remember

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Speaker 1: a Marabou State m A R I B o U.

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Speaker 1: They are a duo from the UK. I've heard like

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Speaker 1: some I've heard electronic tracks Eve done, this feels more

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Speaker 1: of like a live band vibe with some really good

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Speaker 1: it's It kind of feels like a track jungle kind

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Speaker 1: of what it makes. So if you like that kind

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Speaker 1: of like funky, it's got just just solid, solid track

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Speaker 1: with a little bit of bounce to us. So keep

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Speaker 1: your daylight and bouncing. This one called I Remember, I Remember.

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Speaker 1: I I like when Mark Wahlberg gets taste in that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: light plan a little flight plan reference for it, flight risk. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, Yeah, all right, we will link off too.

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Speaker 1: I remember in the footnotes, which you can also find

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Speaker 1: in the show description. Wherever you're listening to this, The

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Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist is the production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts

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Speaker 1: from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going

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Speaker 1: to do it for us this morning. We're back this

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Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you all then. Bye bye.