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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The more addition a little nineteen

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Speaker 1: LSU quarterback Joe Burrow. I'll ask draft expert Dane Brugler

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Speaker 1: LSU guard Damian Lewis and find out what Burrow is

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Speaker 1: Every year before the draft, I wind up buying a

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Speaker 1: been Dane Bruglers. He's currently the NFL Draft guru for

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Speaker 1: The Athletic and I recently sat down with him at

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Speaker 1: Prime Sport. Like Joe Burrow, offensive lineman Damian Lewis spent

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