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Speaker 1: deep Cover. Our new season is about a lawyer who

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Speaker 1: helped the mob run Chicago. He bribed judges and even

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Speaker 1: A year before his death and one of his most

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Speaker 1: revered speeches, Martin Luther King Jr. Named three main evils

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Speaker 1: plaguing America racism, poverty, and war. Decades later, the Fight

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Speaker 1: battle grounds. As the fed wars continued, protesters, fortified numbers

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Speaker 1: capture what many activists dubbed riot porn video of police gassing, snatching, rushing, beating, berating,

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Speaker 1: More than a month then, Portlanders learned that if they

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Speaker 1: For sure, thousands would attend each night, and the atmosphere

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00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: raised more than three hundred thousand dollars to keep going.

431
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Speaker 1: But just as quickly as the love came, there were

432
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: new questions about the group's operations. In fact, both Wall

433
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: of Moms and Riot Ribs soon faced sharp growing pains

434
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: as new money and spotlights of attention spread, creeping suspicion

435
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: among some in the activist community, and even doubts about safety. Courtney,

436
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: who had started out protesting with Mall of Moms, described

437
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: the night out with them that convinced her to quit.

438
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: So um that night in particular, I know that that

439
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: was the first night that actually mom got arrested. There

440
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: was one mom in particular that like she got arrested,

441
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: but then she also got her head like I don't

442
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: know if they shot her directly in the head, but

443
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: that's when she had her head busted open. So throughout

444
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: that night, I was like, this is just not that,

445
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: this is just not right, Like I don't understand they

446
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: have like this these Facebook pages and these twitters and

447
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff to like communicate things with people,

448
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: and nothing was communicated in a way for like to

449
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: mentally prepare these women when they show us um, And

450
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: so that just throughout the night, I was just so

451
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: annoyed with all of that, and I was like, you

452
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: know what, like I'm not gonna wear Oh. Towards the

453
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: end of the night, my friends and I actually had

454
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: black shirts on underneath, and we like literally took our shirts,

455
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: our yellow shirts off and are like we're not doing

456
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 1: this anymore. Most fed war nights followed a similar pattern.

457
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: Huge crowds would gather, They would yell and throw things

458
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: over the fence or damage the fence until the Feds

459
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 1: came out and force and pushed the crowd back. Then

460
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: the Feds would go back inside, the crowd would reform,

461
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: and the cycle would repeat itself until there was no

462
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: one left. Midway through all of this, Portland's Mayor Ted

463
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: Wheeler went out and stood in the tear gas with protesters.

464
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: On national media, his tear gassing was portrayed as bravely

465
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: standing with his city against federal overreach. The people actually

466
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: protesting in downtown Portland felt very different. Ted was heckled constantly,

467
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: his bodyguard had to keep people away from him, and

468
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: as he was leaving, horribly tear gassed, activists dumped bags

469
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: of spent riot munitions that Wheeler's cops had fired at

470
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: them onto the ground in front of him. More than anything,

471
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: most protesters seemed to enjoy watching Ted's suffer after he

472
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: had cost much pain for all of them. Courtney continues

473
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: on about that night. So the next night was the

474
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: night that Ted came out, and we ended up deciding

475
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: like we weren't going to come with wall of months anymore,

476
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: because there had been already like some in fighting on

477
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: their pages or whatever, and so um, we just wanted

478
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it anymore at that point because

479
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: of the miscommunication or I mean lacks of communication that

480
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: there was. And so when Ted came out, that's when

481
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: like it's definitely the numbers had multiple multiplied from wall

482
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: of moms. And again I don't think that they've prepared

483
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: anyone for what was going on. I mean I can't,

484
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: you can't, like that's not probably as I don't know

485
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: how accurate I am with that, But I had still

486
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: remained on the Facebook pages and have been like looking

487
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: at things and checking to see if anybody was like

488
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: communicating what to expect. So then when they showed up,

489
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: there was like so many of them and then Ted

490
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: was there, and then throughout like they're the speeches that

491
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: were going on and things like that, they I guess

492
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: somebody that was speaking on the night had told of

493
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: to tell the moms to go home because they didn't

494
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: want to have a photo opportunity or opportunity with Ted.

495
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: So it wasn't communicated enough to the hundreds of moms

496
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: that were there. And then while Ted was out, that's

497
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: when they started gassing everybody. Well apparently they had told

498
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: the moms to leave, but there were like hundreds of

499
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: moms left behind had like no nothing. They had like

500
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: things from like hydration station and the medics and like

501
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, some swimming goggles and you know, paper masks

502
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: and things like that, they didn't have, like they weren't

503
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: prepared obviously for like with full face like gas masks,

504
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: the respirators and things like that. And so she basically

505
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: had had abandoned all of these moms and had posted

506
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: a video on the Facebook things saying, while of moms

507
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: need to leave, like we're not giving Ted Wheeler the

508
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to take a photo of us. Immediately after that's

509
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: when they started gassing. And there were hundreds of months

510
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: screening running around Chapman Square and they're like leader that

511
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: just left them, and so the rest of the protesters

512
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: were there like taking care of these women that were

513
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: frontlining it while like that had dipped out and they

514
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: had gone. And so that's when it kind of like

515
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: started the downfall of Wall of Moms was because later

516
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: on people didn't realize because nobody's like checking their Facebook

517
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: while they're out there like waiting to get gasped by

518
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: the Feds, and like the next when they get home

519
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: they see that like that had told everyone to leave.

520
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: Dmitria Hester started taking to the street during the FED War.

521
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: She explains her perspective on what happened with them, mall

522
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: of moms. Um, it was beautiful. Um it was with

523
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: the um Wall of Moms. But um the person who

524
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: created Wall of mom she was a white privileged um mom,

525
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: and she tried to use black women to um to

526
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: pro right on our backs about promoting herself and for

527
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: it to be some kind of promotion and not for

528
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: Black lives matter. It was all for a photo shoots

529
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: and to be popular. And the moms were so disgusted

530
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: by how she was trying to create them instead of

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00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: being down there to fight for Black lives matter. And

532
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: the moms saw that. So when they saw that she

533
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: was trying to capitalize on Black lives matter also, they

534
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: were disgusted. So me being a part of who I am,

535
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: I took all the moms that we're not white supremacy

536
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: moms trying to be the saviors and made moms united

537
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: for Black lives UM. Because of the fact that the

538
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: person be Vitam, she was trying to capitalize on black lives.

539
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: She didn't care about black lives or the Mom. She

540
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: just wanted to do it for a photo of She

541
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: thought she was gonna come down there and save the day.

542
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: So it was beautiful um for me to see so

543
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: many people out for black lives better, But it was

544
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: so disgusting to see that what we've been fighting for

545
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: that um their vitam came in and try to capitalize

546
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: on that, but we had to quickly turn that around.

547
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: The Wall of Mom's founder, Beth Barnum claimed to have

548
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: the blessings of a seasoned activist group Don't Shoot Portland's.

549
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: Her early fumblings led Don't Shoot to step in and

550
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: help guide both Wall of Moms and Riot Ribs in

551
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: mid July. Almost immediately, what had been purely positive stories

552
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: nose dived into something more muddled. Riot Ribbs disbanded before

553
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: a full transfer of leadership could even happen, and the

554
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: story of this is very complicated. There were allegations from

555
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: abuse from a former member of Riot Ribs, one of

556
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: the people who helped cook there, and the whole situation

557
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: left a lot of people scratching their heads. The center

558
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: of the rift seems to have focused around an impostor

559
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: who started claiming to represent Riot Ribs. In order to

560
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: draw donations to himself. This person reportedly threatened several members

561
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: of Riot Ribs and several other protesters with a firearm

562
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: on multiple occasions. The situation grew so messy and so

563
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: violent that the old Riot Ribs staff departed, using the

564
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: money that they had raised to buy several vans and

565
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: go deliver Ribs to protests around the country. The impostor

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00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: Riot Ribs contain you to operate and continue to threaten

567
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: people with deadly weapons on occasion. The situation with Wall

568
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: of Moms was, if not a little more normal than

569
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: at least involved less of an armed coup. After Don't

570
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: Shoot was given control of the group, they gave Dimitria

571
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: Hester Admin control of the organization's now massive Facebook page,

572
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: and Don't Shoot Portland and Wall of Moms even entered

573
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: into a joint lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security

574
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: for their use of excessive force, their violations of free speech,

575
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: all of the terrible stuff that they'd been doing. Shortly

576
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: after this suit was announced, what had seemed to be

577
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: a strong united front fell apart. Wall of Mom's founder,

578
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: Bev Barnum began filing paperwork to register the group as

579
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: a nonprofit. This move set up a series of alarms,

580
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: leading Don't Shoot to question if the move was to

581
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,920
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582
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: Her goal, she said was to protect protesters from federal agents,

583
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: not the BLM movement. For her, while of Moms was

584
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: something of a business, a line was drawn. Don't Shoot

585
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: split from the two week old Wall of Moms and

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00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: founded a new black lead group called Moms United for

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00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,320
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00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: the whole situation is very confusing, and trust us, no

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00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,040
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592
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,840
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593
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00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: growing rifts internally among protesters threatened to derail resistance altogether.

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Speaker 1: House to sing and listen to speeches. As night fell,

644
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: thousands would surround the court House waiting for the Feds

645
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: to inevitably begin shooting people. One of the last really

646
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: big FED nights was July. Over a thousand people marched

647
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Speaker 1: all the way from North Portland to the courthouse, where

648
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: there were already thousands of people gathered. The site upon

649
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: arrival was a familiar one. Moms and yellows standing behind,

650
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: people with shields deflecting canisters and pepper balls, leafblowers pushing

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00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: gas back behind the fence, and people with heat resistant

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00:37:50,360 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: gloves tossing canisters over the barrier like a sport. At

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00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: this point, Portland was getting very good at counteracting tear gas.

654
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: In fact, they'd almost perfected the art. Some FEDS got

655
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: dumped with pink paint early in the night, and they

656
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: retreated back into the courthouse, and with the absence of

657
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Speaker 1: the Feds, people were more free to tamper with the fence.

658
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: Occasionally there would be sparks from an angle grinder, slowly

659
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: removing supports on the steel barricade. While the Feds were inside,

660
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: they'd shoot tear gas from the roof and pepper balls

661
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: out of murder holes as people shook the fence back

662
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: and forth. Fireworks were launched up at the roof, but

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Speaker 1: the Feds would not stay on the roof for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the night. With a mix of vigorous shaking

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00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: rope ties and liberal use of angle grinders, portlanders finally

666
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: toppled over the concrete reinforced steel fence. The Feds were

667
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: not happy, as they continued to shower the streets with

668
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: tear gas fired from the roof. Squads of Federal agents

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Speaker 1: busted out of the courthouse door, launching Stunn grenades and

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00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: taking aim within four rifles. Protesters shield walls quickly surrounded

671
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: a large portion of the fence that had been knocked over.

672
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: Fed shot more more munitions into the crowd, and protesters

673
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: tossed back canisters of tear gas and fireworks into the

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Speaker 1: Federal lines. All the while the red laser sight on

675
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: an automatic rifle burned through the clouds of smoke and gas,

676
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: swiveling across the chests of people in the crowd. Eventually

677
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: the gas was too much, even for more than a

678
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Speaker 1: dozen leafblowers. Some in the crowd of protesters around the

679
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: fallen fence had to pull back or suffocate. At this point,

680
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: our old friends, the Portland Police Bureau arrived to declare

681
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: a riot and warn everyone that tear gas was about

682
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Speaker 1: to be used, which it had been used for hours

683
00:39:47,040 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: at that point. As thousands of people started to retreat

684
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: west under heavy grenade fire, the FEDS in the Portland

685
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: Police took the streets to inflict violence on the sidewalk.

686
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Medics treated people with giant gashes on their face from

687
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: metal canisters and foam tipped riot rounds. Multiple people were

688
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: shot in the face, just like Donovan Labeland in all

689
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: those weeks prior. On July nine, Oregon Governor Kate Brown

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Speaker 1: announced that the White House, DHS and her office had

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00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: come to a deal. The next day u Feds were

692
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: leaving Portland. Of course, that was something of a lie.

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Speaker 1: The same day that Kate made her announcement, Acting DHS

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Speaker 1: Secretary Chad Wolf contradicted her claim saying on Twitter, as

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Speaker 1: I told the governor yesterday, federal law enforcement will remain

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Speaker 1: in Portland until the violent activity to its our federal

697
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Speaker 1: facilities ends. We are not removing any law enforcement while

698
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Speaker 1: our facilities and law enforcement remain under attack now. Trump

699
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: also challenged Brown's announcement, tweeting that she must clear out

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Speaker 1: the anarchists and agitators and that if she doesn't, the

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Speaker 1: federal government will do it for her. We will not

702
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Speaker 1: be leaving until there is safety cape Brown then clarified

703
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Speaker 1: that the federal removal would be instead a phased withdrawal

704
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Speaker 1: of federal agents from the Portland downtown area. Their presence

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00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: would be replaced by Oregon State Police. Brown tweeted that

706
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Speaker 1: our local Oregon State Police officers will be downtown to

707
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: protect Oregonians right to free speech and to keep the peace.

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00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: The number of Feds were reduced, but they never actually

709
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: left Portland. Into August, there were still hundreds of additional

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Speaker 1: federal agents from Customs and Borders Patrol, the Federal Protective Service,

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00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: and the U. S. Marshals. One law enforcement official told

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Speaker 1: op B Oregon Public Broadcasting there has been a small

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Speaker 1: army in Portland and multiple law enforcement sources told op

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Speaker 1: B that they expected additional federal forces to remain in

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Speaker 1: the city up and the general election, with the DHS

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Speaker 1: officials saying to O. P B, my guess is that

717
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: the protest climate isn't going to change much between now

718
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: in the election. That apartment is reluctant to draw down

719
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: drastically in a way that would leave us vulnerable. All

720
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: the Feds really did was become less visible. They did

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00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: temporarily stop responding to protesters, leaving that job to the

722
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: Oregon State Police and the Portland Police, but they were

723
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: still in town, and smaller groups of Portland protesters would

724
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: occasionally meet these Feds whenever a protest was held at

725
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: the local ice facility. The night of July was the

726
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: first night without tear gas and weeks with both FEDS

727
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: and Oregon State Police just watching from inside the courthouse.

728
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: This convinced many exhausted Portland's that the Feds had actually left,

729
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: and the following days numbers started to dwindle. The mass

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Speaker 1: of liberals that assembled to fight off Trump's Feds called

731
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: the effort of victory, putting their newly acquired gas masks

732
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: in the closet and moving on. This turn of events

733
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: was predictable for some of the more seasoned activists. Here's Kosca.

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Speaker 1: So many patterns I saw and an iraq has been

735
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: repeated not just here but in other pipeline movements, in

736
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Speaker 1: other other movements, And I thought the exact same same

737
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: thing happening in Portland. And so I was telling how

738
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: I kept saying that it's going to turn it into

739
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: burning Man in like ten more days, and and then

740
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: it kind of was a little bit circusy for a while.

741
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Speaker 1: But it sucks that, um that all the you know,

742
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 1: mainstream Americans or mainstream people in the United States thought

743
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: it was just the Feds doing that to us, and

744
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: if we just get rid of the feeds, everything will

745
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: be fine. But they didn't get rid of the fees.

746
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: They only got rid of that unit. The rest of

747
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: the fits stayed, and we're still suffering the same amount

748
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: of the same amount of violence. It's just not covered.

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00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: And and it was also disgusting to me because, um,

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00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, there were all these um, you know, hearings

751
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: about it and and press about it, about this extreme

752
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: violence from these federal lobsters. But we were the exist

753
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: Portland's police were using the exact same practics and violence

754
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: on it. You know, for years they've been doing that

755
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: same thing. The disappearance of the liberal majority suggested that

756
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: many who showed up for the Fed War were more

757
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: interested in standing up against Trump than four Black lives.

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00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: Olivia Cutty Smith, co chair of the Portland d s A,

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00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: gives her feelings on the subject. I mean, it's like

760
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: how we see a lot of other struggles that because

761
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: Trump is the face of it, Uh, liberals will turn

762
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: out to protest these things in ways that they wouldn't before. Um,

763
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: you know, keeping kids in cages at the border. A

764
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,920
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765
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: our movement that Trump is now so visibly violence and hateful,

766
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767
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,440
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00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: we saw an incredible amount of people Mom's dad, labor

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Speaker 1: federal officers being here. Um because Trump sent them, I

771
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: mean Obama sent federal officers to Baltimore to Ferguson to

772
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: Standing Rock. We did not see this same sort of

773
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: mobilization from liberals that we are now seeing because it

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00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: was Trump. The FED War was a tremendous story of

775
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,400
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00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,920
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777
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,200
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778
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,640
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779
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: that thousands of assembled human beings can hold. But most

780
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: of that power and potential disappeared when the Feds did.

781
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: The spectacle of federal violence, the military body armor and

782
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: the tear gas clouds, the size of buildings that all

783
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,520
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00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,080
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00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: For every protester who stopped going out because the Feds left,

786
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: there was another person who had grown more committed to

787
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,239
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788
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,120
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789
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,200
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00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,080
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00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: but it did not mark the end of the uprising.

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00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: For Portland's committed activists, the fight was far from over

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