1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: This is a message from Tye. I completely lost my 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: voice and hope to rejoin Dan as soon as possible. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Please enjoy this episode with Andy Staples. I'm resting and 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: drinking plenty of fluids and eating an assortment of Globay tomatoes. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: I must also admit that Dan is more handsome than 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: I and is truly a college football podcasting visionary in 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: a way that I can only aspire to be. Go Ducks. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to the solid verbal. 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: Hell that for me, I'm a man, I'm for it. 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well I want to 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for Dake ed 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: of Steak. 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: Is that woom? 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: And now Dan and Tye, Hey everybody, and welcome to 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: the solid verbal. My name is Dan Rubinstein. The reason 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: I'm doing this introduction is because, well you've already heard 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: that automated intro that ty definitely created for himself in 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: which he admitted defeat to me. But also he really 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: did truly lose his voice, and so we have on 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: who I like to consider a deeply internal part of 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: the Solivrable family, even though he has his own college 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: football universe over at the Athletic Andy Staples of The 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Andy Staples Show. Key contributor to The Andy Staples Show. 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: I would argue, Andy, thank you for coming on. How 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: you doing. 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 4: I think I'm one of the friends of the Andy 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: Staples Show and friends as well. I'm my own best friend. 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like John Candy's character in Spaceball's. 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: Spoken like a true college football only child. I think 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: I have no idea that's right on my own space friend. 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: Spaceballs was introduced to me by the the kids downstairs 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: when when I was in elementary school, their dad left 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 4: for the day and we were all left alone and 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: they're like, hey, watch this and this one's. 35 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: A little scandalous and funny. It is it is. Actually 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: I wonder where Spaceball's ranks for me in like my 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: mel Brooks Power rankings. Maybe we get to that at 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: the end of the show, but like it is that. 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was my first mel Brooks movie, so you 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: sure remember, Like, if i'd see you young Frankensteine first, 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: I might feel differently, But Spaceball's was my first. 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: Do you know about this is so nerdy that we're 43 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: going here first, and I promise you and you know 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: the name of the episode. We are going to go 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: to where college football playoff teams are going from here, 46 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: what their outlook look looks like going forward. But have 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: you ever heard of and I will be shocked and 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: impressed if you have. Do you know what the pizza 49 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: cognition theory is? 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: No, basically I stay away from pizza related theories. 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: No, No, it's a good theory. Actually, I think it 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: applies to any sorts of foods. It's basically you judge 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: all pizzas you consume against your favorite and possibly first 54 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: childhood pizza. 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 4: So basically like if everything's judging against Pizza hut Pan. 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: For me, Okay, maybe not Pizza hut Pan, but like 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: your first favorite non chain pizza. Like if you had 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: a local Florida or South Carolina pie that is still 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: near and dear to your heart. Maybe that's like a 60 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: first love, but more important checkerboard pizza in Key Largo, Florida. 61 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: That would that would probably be it. 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: Okay, floppy New York style slice, that's good, that's great. 63 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: I mean watching Fletch and eating checkerboard pizza. 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 2: What a childhood incredible? I Mine is a Mechi's pizza 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: in Pasta in the San Fernando Valley. The West Hills 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: location is near and dear to my heart. Still my 67 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: mom still gets She goes out and buys a tub 68 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: of their Marinara sauce for when she makes lasagna or whatever, 69 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: because it's cheap and it's delicious, and I think that's 70 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: the move. 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: So that's your That's amazing, and. 72 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: I am proud that I have derailed your show no 73 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: within thirty seconds. That that is a new record for me. 74 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: And I appreciate that I was told when I did 75 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: Daily Radio that I tended to derail things, and like 76 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: I shouldn't get so excited that Arkansas has a linebacker 77 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: named bumper Pool. And maybe that's not the most important 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: thing to talk about during the show, but I felt 79 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: like it was important. 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: I think that just means that was the wrong medium 81 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: for you, podcasting probably no clear commercial breaks to bump 82 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: up against to bumper Pool up against to. I think 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: it just it's better for you. We're all looking for 84 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: our own platform and our all little cozy space in life, 85 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: and this is what what has found you. 86 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: I'm just happy to be here, Dan. 87 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: That's that's hmarious to it that we got through the 88 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: twenty twenty season. Yeah, a champion was crowned. It was 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: probably the best team that won the championship. 90 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: So that's good. 91 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's kind of all you can ask 92 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: for when this season didn't look like it was going 93 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 4: to go off. If you you know, if you go 94 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: back to June, if you go back to August, there 95 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: were times when it felt like, oh, how are they. 96 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: Ever going to do this? But they did it. 97 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: They pulled it off. Did they do it well? Unclear? 98 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: Time will tell as more comes out, but they did it. 99 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 2: They definitely did it. And however much kudos you want 100 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: to assign to that, please do. What we're going to 101 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: do here today is look at the four teams that 102 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: made the college football Playoff, which I think many people 103 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: largely outside of East Texas can agree we are probably 104 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: the best four teams of the twenty twenty season. And 105 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: even if you're in East Texas and you don't think 106 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: that's the case, maybe we'll touch on your team as 107 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: well for being right there. But what I want to do, 108 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: like I mentioned before, is I want to look at 109 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: each of these teams because I believe each of them 110 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: will be replacing a quarterback at the very least some 111 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: other key positions some key coaches, and I think all 112 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: four of them will look pretty different moving forward. So 113 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: let's start at the top. You mentioned Alabama. I think 114 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: irrefutably the best team of twenty twenty at this point, 115 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: given how they demolished Ohio State. We are talking about, 116 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: and correct me if I'm wrong. New quarterback, new full 117 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: time group of wide receivers, new starting running back, largely 118 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: new offensive line, new offensive coordinator coming over from a 119 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: less than impressive stint in the NFL as a personnel guy, 120 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: but a good offensive mind nonetheless, and some key losses. 121 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: But bringing back a good chunk of a defense in Alabama? 122 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: Does that all ring somewhat true? 123 00:05:59,240 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: Yes? 124 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: I think we're still waiting on a mac Jones official decision, 125 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: but based on what he said after the game, it 126 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: certainly sounds like he's leaning toward heading out. And at 127 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 4: first I thought maybe he should come back. And I 128 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 4: was talking to Dane Brugler, who is our draft guruer 129 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: at the Athletic about that situation, and I said, well, 130 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: wouldn't you come back? Because you know, the twenty twenty 131 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: two quarterback classes like Sam hal and Keaton Slovas and 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 4: not much else, right, wouldn't that give you a better 133 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 4: chance to have a higher draft position, And Dane I 134 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: hadn't thought about it this way, but Dane deals with 135 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: NFL personnel people all the time and made an interesting point. 136 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: He said that. 137 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: You might want to go out in the better class 138 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: one because is mac Jones going to have the kind 139 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 4: of weapons around him next year that he had around 140 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 4: him this year? He's at Alabama, so yeah, he's probably 141 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: gonna have some good weapons, but are they going to 142 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: be like these? 143 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: Maybe not. 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 4: So you got that piece of it. But the other 145 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: piece of it is when there's a good deep quarterback class, 146 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 4: NFL teams get this kind of fomo thing going where 147 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 4: they got to take a quarterback, and so you sort 148 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: of get them whipped into a frenzy in the first 149 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 4: round where they're taking quarterbacks left and right. Teams are 150 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: trading up to get quarterbacks. So it might actually behoove 151 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: mac Jones to leave right now, and this might be 152 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: the highest he would get drafted. 153 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and his stock, as you sort of alluded to, 154 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: it can't get possibly higher than where it is right now. 155 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: Given his year with those receivers, he can only go 156 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: down from I think perceptions of his ceiling, it seems. 157 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 158 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: I mean, if he had another great year, I think 159 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: people would be like, Yep, mac Jones is really good, 160 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: which is exactly how they feel right now. So I 161 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: don't know that it changes much. I think you're right 162 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: about that, and I do think I think mac Jones 163 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: is gonna be good NFL quarterback. I think his decisiveness, 164 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 4: his willingness to throw into tight windows and not worry 165 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: about it that much, I think is going to be 166 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: helpful to him in the NFL. I think one thing, 167 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: if you've watched two a play in the NFL in 168 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, he needed guys to be as open as 169 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: they were at Alabama or he's going to check it down. 170 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: He's got to. 171 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: He's got to work his way out of that. I 172 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: think he will ultimately, but that's something he has to 173 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: work his way out of. I'm not sure mac Jones 174 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: is going to need to work his way. 175 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: Out of that. 176 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the old I mean, at the very least, we're 177 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: all chasing that AJ Feely life, and mac Jones can 178 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: live that AJ Feely Chase Dame Chase Daniel Chase Daniel 179 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: life is the ultimate. Yeah, that's true, man, goals, life 180 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: goals right there? What concerns you other than Mac Jones 181 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: if it is Bryce Young taking over the reins, what 182 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: concerns you about Alabama? And we have to use the 183 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: word concern. 184 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: In relatives, Yeah, sorry, I have I have no concerns 185 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 4: whatsoever about Alabama. 186 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: I really don't. So it's relatively speaking. Where could there 187 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: be the biggest dent from where they are right now 188 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: as once again maybe the greatest team ever. 189 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: I think it's it's gonna be receiver because how well 190 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: we said this last year, How can it be better 191 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: than having Henry Ruggs and Jerry Duty and Jayalen Waddell 192 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 4: and DeVante's Smith. Well, having DeVante's and Jalen Waddell and 193 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 4: John Metchi and Slade Bolden, they are it's an embarrassment 194 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 4: of riches. But DeVante Smith was the best player in 195 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: the country. I think he proved it in the first 196 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: half of the National Championship game. That's hard to place. 197 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: So it's gonna be John Metchi, it's gonna be Zavier Williams, 198 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: Slade Bowlden will still be there. I like Jalil billings 199 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 4: Lee a lot. I think there's a lot of things 200 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: you can do with him. He kind of reminds me 201 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: of what Kyle Pitts looked like when he was a 202 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: younger player at Florida. And so I think I think 203 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: Alabama is going to have a lot to work with now. 204 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: Obviously they're they're losing quite a bit off their offensive line, 205 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 4: but Evan Neil is back. Evan Neil might be the 206 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: best offensive linean in the country. Kind of a penne 207 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 4: s soool thing going into the season. And they've got 208 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: guys that have been waiting their turn behind the really 209 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 4: good players who've been on this offensive line. So I'm 210 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: not as worried about that, you know, probably losing Christian 211 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: Barmer on the defensive line, but I think that they 212 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 4: get just about everybody else back. Will Anderson was just 213 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: a freshman this year, a very good pass rusher, better 214 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: pass rusher than what we're used to having at Alabama, 215 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: and I think that's that's terrifying for teams to think 216 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: he's going to be older and better. But you know, 217 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: I just I think they are. They are about as 218 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: complete as you get. You know, we'll see how the 219 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 4: offense adjusts. Bill O'Brien coming in. I don't worry about 220 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 4: him being able to take what they've been doing and 221 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: then kind of translated into into what he does. I 222 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: think he's he's a pretty smart offensive mine, like you mentioned, 223 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 4: not the greatest personnel guy in the world, but he's 224 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: not going to be making any trades and he's gonna 225 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 4: be working with the recruits that they bring him. So 226 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: I think he's I think he's gonna do just fine there. 227 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. I mean, that's I think the right answer, 228 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: just because receiver is where they take the biggest hits, 229 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: and there's so much energy that was paid to Devonte 230 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: Smith not well, not well, but there was energy paid 231 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: to DeVante Smith from opposing defenses. So yeah, it's all relative. 232 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: With Alabama. Let's go to their first round opponent. Let's 233 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: go to the four seed in Notre Dame. Because Notre 234 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Dame I've liked to I've had some fun at their expense. 235 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: I've called it the Brian Kelly treadmill. That they've reached 236 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: a certain level and they're just there. They're just there 237 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: year over year where they're very good but not necessarily 238 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 2: full of killers that you should be terrified of. Every 239 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: week they lose Ian Book, they replace him with Jack Cone. Offensively, 240 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: they look very similar. Kien Williams is young. I know 241 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: they're going to lose some along the offensive line, but 242 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: they've recruited incredibly well there. They've incruded barely first about 243 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: their offensive line right as you shouldn't be. Do you 244 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: see them getting appreciably worse? Ian book was good, but 245 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: not forever and ever Notre Dame legend, and defensively they were, 246 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: I think they were bordering on excellent, especially with how 247 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: you look at what Alabama wasn't able to do against them. 248 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: Is Notre Dame in sort of basically the same spot 249 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: of being very good but not necessarily incredibly scary. 250 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: I think that's probably pretty accurate. We got to wait 251 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 4: and see with a couple of decisions, Like you know, 252 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: I'd be interested is Myron Tongue Ilamsa coming back? You know, 253 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: then that would make the d line pretty deep if 254 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: he's back. They've got a couple of guys that are 255 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: trying to de side, but they've got a good for 256 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: a good foundation there. It would have been nice if 257 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: they could have gotten Tommy Tremble back, but I don't 258 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 4: think they used them as much as they could have 259 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: this year, so I just think that they are kind 260 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: of where they are. I think you're Brian Kelly. Treadmill 261 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: term is the right one. And the thing is, I 262 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 4: had a question in my mail bag this week that 263 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: I thought was really interesting, and the person asked, could 264 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: could they get past this ceiling that they seem stuck 265 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:40,119 Speaker 4: under with an elite quarterback? And my thought is, yeah, 266 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 4: yes they could, and there's no reason why they couldn't 267 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: get one like their Notre Dame. Like you don't have 268 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: to be Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, LSU to get 269 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: an elite quarterback. I mean like when Joe Burrow transferred, 270 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 4: if he had been of a different mindset, might have 271 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: been a school he would have considered. You know, he 272 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: only ended up considering Cincinnati and LSU. But you know, 273 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: you can get a situation where you got two good 274 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: quarterbacks and they got a pick. 275 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: You had Georgia doing that with Justin Fields and Jake. 276 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 4: Fromm You know, Trevor Lawrence beat all comers at Clemson 277 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: and those guys kind of scattered to the four wins. 278 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: So there's a chance that Clemson or start that Notre 279 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 4: Dame either gets one of those guys out of high 280 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: school at some point in the next few years because 281 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: they're Notre Dame, they're a good recruiting school, or they 282 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: get one of those guys on the transfer market, like 283 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: it's not out of the realm of possibility. Now, Jack 284 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: Cohan's probably not that guy. We saw Jack ConA Wisconsin. 285 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: He's pretty good, but I don't know that he's Joe 286 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 4: Burrow good. I mean, I don't think he is. I 287 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 4: think we would have noticed that by now, But I mean, 288 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: stranger things have happened. Joe Burrow didn't didn't look like 289 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow until his second year starting at LSU. So 290 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: I do think eventually they get to that point. I 291 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 4: just don't think this is the year. 292 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out and I'm positive I'm gonna 293 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: miss something. But in Big ten country in the Midwest, 294 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: like who was the last super high level recruit at 295 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: quarterback to go somewhere and succeed? Is it Dwayne Haskins 296 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: at Ohio State for a year? Like yeah, I'm trying 297 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: to like, who's not from the Midwest. 298 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: He's He's from Maryland, so but probably and I think 299 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: Wisconsin's hoping that's Graham Mertz. 300 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: We don't know. The jury's still out on that. 301 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: He's young, but he's the highest rated recruit they ever had, 302 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: and he's from the Kansas City area, right, so that's 303 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: probably Yeah, you're right, it's it's been a bit of 304 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: a struggle. But again, the best players aren't always the 305 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: biggest recruit. I mean, charl Keaton Slovas was a three 306 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: star recruit. You know, nobody nobody really think they thought 307 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: he was a depth guy at USC and he wound 308 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 4: up being the best QB on the roster probably from 309 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: the moment he stepped on the on the field, and 310 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: you know, he he comes in game one. 311 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: After after JT. Daniel gets hurt and just takes over. 312 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 4: So you don't always know, right, And that's why I 313 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: think Notre Dame is eventually going to either luck into 314 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: or just unearth that guy, but not. 315 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: Yet, not yet. Yeah, they're a big quarterback away this year. 316 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: It seemed to be in book was accurate. It was 317 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: a good decision maker, was behind a good offensive line 318 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: at a good running back. We talked about it a 319 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: bunch where they just didn't have the danger on the outside. 320 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: They just didn't have people who put the fear of 321 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: God no pun intended into opposing secondaries that you had 322 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: to account for on every play. And so it seems 323 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: that Brian Kelly, even though he's recruited pretty well at receiver. 324 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's a Tommy Reese thing. 325 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a an Ian Book thing 326 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: from last year. It seems that those guys too. We 327 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: look at quarterback, but you need that rhythm with somebody 328 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: who changes the complexion of a field. 329 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 330 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: I'm kind of hoping it's Lorenzo Styles because I really 331 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: want a star receiver to be named Lorenzo Styles. 332 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: So this just feels right. 333 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: I haven't heard that name before. 334 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: Is he young, he's a freshman, he's an early enroll league. Okay, 335 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: he's classes twenty twenty one. 336 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, I just I love you know, we can 337 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: have Harry Styles singing and Lorenzo Styles catching passes. 338 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: It's gonna be wonderful twenty twenty one. The name Styles 339 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: is having a moment. You heard it here first. 340 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 341 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: I also have an offensive lineman coming in named Rocco Spindler, 342 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: which is just tremendous. 343 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: It's very on brand. 344 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: I love it. Good for Notre Dame say things already 345 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: looking like a bounce back here for twenty twenty one 346 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: and beyond. Clemson's fascinating too, just because Trevor Lawrence has 347 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: been everything for three years. And for the first time 348 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: in a while, I don't I don't know if Justin 349 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: Ross is coming back, but for the first time in 350 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: the while, it's not obvious where they're going to succeed 351 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: at receiver after succeeding. 352 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: Joe A Joe to Judjo Have you not? 353 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 4: Have you not gotten on the as Joe with Joe 354 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 4: Bandwagon the Pride of Alberta, Canada. 355 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: And I'm telling you this guy is fun, Okay good. 356 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: I'm very hopeful that he became Humes Clemson's best receiver. 357 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: And I met him when he was in high school, 358 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: had just committed to them, and he actually went down 359 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 4: and played in a high school in Clearwater, Florida for 360 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 4: his senior year to get more exposure and wound up 361 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 4: get getting an offer to Clemson when he went to 362 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: their camp. But he's sort of the guy you would 363 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: expect to see at Clemson, which it didn't feel. It 364 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: didn't feel like they had that guy in their regular 365 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: rotation this year. None of God It is kind of 366 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 4: like that because he's bigger, but not the Mike Williams 367 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: T Higgins justin Ross just long and fast and dynamic. 368 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: So that's what you kind of hope Clemson gets back to, 369 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: because I think their offense is at its best when 370 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: that's what they have. 371 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: It seemed like they took a step back along the 372 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: offensive line this year. It seemed like they I mean, 373 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: if you watched any of the Ohio State game and 374 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: Darien Kendrick, I guess the secondary looked exploitable for the 375 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: first time quite some time. Is that something that you expect. 376 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 3: To be fixed? 377 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: Is that something that needs to be addressed immediately, perhaps 378 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: in the transfer market. On those two groups, what is 379 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: your outlook at those two relative problem areas. 380 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be okay. I trust their evaluation 381 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 4: skills at Clemson. They've just been better at it than 382 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 4: most everybody else. So I think they got caught in 383 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: a situation where they just didn't. They had a little 384 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: bit of a down year, But I think they'll be fine. 385 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 4: And honestly, what they have up front and now, I 386 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 4: think they need to make sure they develop guys who 387 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: can get after the quarterback off the edge, but what 388 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: they have up the middle up front is going to 389 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: be very. 390 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: Difficult to deal with. 391 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 4: The Tyler Davis Brian brise Combo at defensive tackle is insane. 392 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: That is really good. And I think when you've got 393 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 4: two guys like that at that position, you're going to 394 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 4: be good on defense. 395 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: You just are. 396 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've recruited I think it was Trenton Simpson who 397 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: came in some during the injuries at linebacker. The freshman 398 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: looks impressive. They seem to be good pretty much all 399 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: over the field. They've recruited an incredibly high level. I 400 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: just I wonder where Clemson goes from here in terms 401 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: of we've had dj ouy ang La La who looks 402 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: physically the part he looks. 403 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: He came out and be fine. We saw it. 404 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 4: We saw him play against Boston College and Notre Dame. 405 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: I really think he's going to be good. And you know, yes, 406 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 4: they lost the Notre Dame game. He had a great 407 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: game against Notre Dame. 408 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: He did. 409 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 4: They struggled to run the ball against Notre Dame in 410 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 4: that loss, so that's not on dj Uey angle Law. 411 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 4: And I do think as they get more comfortable with 412 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 4: him and they were in a situation where they didn't 413 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: really have anybody behind him at that point, so I 414 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 4: think they were being a little careful with him on 415 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 4: the ground. That won't be the situation when he's the 416 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 4: starting quarterback. I think they'll probably be a little more, 417 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: you know, just more in the flow of the game 418 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: when they decide to run him and and he's a 419 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 4: he's a pretty big threat when he's running the ball. 420 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: So do you see much of a drop off offensively 421 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: just because of the new pieces, right, just because of 422 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: new quarterback with a bunch of new receivers. 423 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: I think it. 424 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 4: But the thing is they're going to have a spring 425 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: practice to figure out how to gel together, and so 426 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 4: I do think they're gonna be okay. I you know, 427 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 4: I think defensively, I want to reserve judgment until I 428 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 4: see what the secondary looks like, because I think they 429 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: may wind up being in a similar situation where a 430 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 4: team with a good enough offensive line is going to 431 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: be able to with that by quote unquote good enough 432 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 4: offensive line, that means Ohio State, Alabama or Georgia, Right, 433 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: maybe LSU. 434 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 3: That's about it. 435 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: So I think I think they're going to be very 436 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 4: explosive on offense. Defense, they're gonna be tough to run on. 437 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 4: We will see in terms of how they get after 438 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 4: the quarterback, how they cover that's that those seem to 439 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: be kind of the big question marks for them. 440 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: So after the Alabama National Championship game, Kerrie Coomb's not 441 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: in a great place with the Ohio State faithful much. 442 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how much he could have done about 443 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: a secondary that did struggle, a defense that did struggle 444 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: at times, especially in that back end. But is that 445 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: legitimate cause for concern or is it what are you 446 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: going to do against Bama? Like what does your pie 447 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: chart look like? In terms of that's just DeVante Smith 448 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: and yeah, this is an actual problem for Ohio State 449 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: given the talent level available. 450 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's two things. 451 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: That's just DeVante Smith and this is a game where 452 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: a bunch of guys are still out. Sure, they don't 453 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: have everybody there, your best defensive tackles out, your best 454 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: pass rushers out, You're just trying to make things work. 455 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 4: They had the guys playing out of position in the secondary. 456 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 4: I don't think in a normal season that that's an 457 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: issue for them. I think in a normal season, when 458 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 4: they have you just regular injury issues and they can 459 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 4: replace guys. I think that's different than here's these guys 460 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 4: you just can't use this week, and you maybe a 461 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: little use them next week, but maybe not this week. 462 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: That's not going to happen anymore, I don't think next 463 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 4: So I'm not as worried about Ohio State having to 464 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 4: deal with that going forward. I think I think they're 465 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 4: gonna be a little more consistent. I don't think you're 466 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: gonna have a situation where you have a linebacker covering 467 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 4: the Heisman Trophy winning receiver. 468 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: Right happening again? Okay, fair enough? So you don't see 469 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: major changes. I mean, Ohio State going into that game, 470 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: the secondary was the weakness of a very strong, talented team. 471 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: You don't see any appreciable weakness moving forward for the 472 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: secondary or is this something that's still you know, Sean 473 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: Wade was as a slot corner. He probably is better 474 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: see of playing well. 475 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 4: Right, He was supposed to make all that money this 476 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: year by proving he could be the boundary corner that 477 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 4: Jeff Akuda was the year before. 478 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: But he may not be that guy, right, And that's okay. 479 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: He'll make a lot of money as a slot corner 480 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: in the NFL. But yes, they do need to find 481 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: that person, you know, and it seemed like they always 482 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: had that person that, you know going down the line. 483 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: Whether it was Akuda, you know, you look at. 484 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 4: The Just Run of Corns Award, yeah, before that. Yeah, 485 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: So I think I think they're going to find that. 486 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: The way they the way they've recruited, suggests they will. 487 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: Somebody will be in the pipeline that becomes that. It's 488 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: just it's just odd that this year it didn't quite 489 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: work out that way. 490 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: They're crazy deep at receiver with how they've recruited though 491 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: Justin Field's moving on. Does you know it's something new, 492 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: it's something that it does open things up for the offense. 493 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: They've they've recruited quarterback incredibly incredibly well, I don't know 494 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: if the guy is definitely going to be CJ. Stroud. 495 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: I know they've recruited they had another Blue Chipper in 496 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: this last up, this last Jack Miller's the other one, 497 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: So CJ. 498 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 3: CJ. Stroud versus Jack. 499 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 4: Miller, and I would assume, you know, the one who 500 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 4: isn't getting as many reps may may move on, right 501 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 4: because they they keep they keep signing quarterbacks. 502 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: They haven't stopped. So that's the other. 503 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 4: The other thing you gotta you gotta consider is there's 504 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 4: gonna be a freshman coming in this year, and and 505 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: that would be uh like it on the name. 506 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: I know who you're talking about. I can actually picture 507 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 2: his face right now. 508 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 4: But I know they have Kyle McCord coming in this 509 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 4: Shay so and there's always somebody else. And kylem accord's 510 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 4: another five star guy. He's from Philly, right, So that's 511 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: next year. 512 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: That name somebody twenty twenty two is yours from Texas. 513 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Quinn, you Wewers in Texas now? 514 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 4: I think remember Quinn Ewers was initially committed to Texas 515 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: and then flipped to Ohio State. He's going to get 516 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: a chance to see Steve Sarkisian coaching at Texas and 517 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 4: let's see if they can get. 518 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: Back in it with him. 519 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's still it'd be December before he signs, 520 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 4: so maybe maybe there's another shot. 521 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 3: And you know, here's the other thing. 522 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 4: If if somebody, especially if it's Colin Accord or even 523 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 4: if it's one of the red shirt freshman guys, if 524 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 4: they establish themselves as a starter at Ohio State. They're 525 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 4: in credit like they're going to be the guy for 526 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 4: a long time. I don't you might you might be 527 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: looking around. 528 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, And what is your likelihood of that? 529 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: Is it? 530 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: Sort of? 531 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: Do you give that benefit of the doubt to Ryan 532 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: Day with that group of receivers, with how well that 533 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 2: offense did operate? I guess until the Northwestern game? Do 534 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: you give do they get that benefit of doubt? That's 535 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 2: the easy way of asking. 536 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, Ryan Day's great with quarterbacks. Quarterback 537 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: recruiting is a crapshoot, Let's be honest. There are very 538 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 4: few sure things. Trevor Lawrence is one of them, but 539 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: very rarely is somebody a sure thing. So but I 540 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 4: look at the way they've developed qbs over the years, 541 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 4: and it seems like they've always got somebody who's ready 542 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 4: to go, or in some cases two guys who are 543 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 4: ready to go when they had Haskins in Burrow. So 544 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: I'm not worried about them in terms of being explosive 545 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: on offense. I think that offensive line now a lot 546 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: of those guys are headed to the pros. But it's 547 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: just like Alabama, They've got people behind them who look 548 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 4: the part who will be pros when their time comes 549 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 4: and they'll be able to run the ball. I think 550 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 4: I also think Ryan Day probably got a taste of 551 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 4: what it should look like in those. 552 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: You know, in the Big Ten championship game in the 553 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: Sugar Bowl. 554 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 4: When you can run the ball like that, there's nothing 555 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 4: you can't do like that. That is dominance, and that 556 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: can be Ohio State. I mean, anytime he wants it 557 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 4: to be in the Big Ten, that can be Ohio State. 558 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: The interesting thing to me, too, though, is is Ryan 559 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: Day the coach of Ohio State twenty twenty three, twenty 560 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: twenty four. His name keeps coming up, not necessarily his 561 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: own doing, but because of his NFL experience. He has 562 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: something excellent going in Columbus, but certainly his name. Anytime 563 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: any college coach is outstanding with quarterbacks and has that 564 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: reputation and has NFL experience, that's a reality. Do you 565 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: think the itch is there? 566 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. Here's the thing. 567 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: If you're Ryan Day or you're Lincoln Riley, because your 568 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: name's gonna come up every single year, definitely, But those 569 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 4: two jobs are probably the most stable, steady jobs in 570 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 4: the sport, not in college football. In the s of football, 571 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 4: you can be at Okhio State for fifteen to twenty 572 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: years and be successful every single year and they'll be happy, 573 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: and they'll pay you tons of money and you're not 574 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 4: going to really drop off. I mean, Ohio State is 575 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: one of the few programs in the history of the 576 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 4: sport that has never really dropped off. 577 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: It's just always good and you have a great infrastructure 578 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 3: in place. 579 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: So if you want to go, it has to because 580 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: you absolutely want to be an NFL coach, or it's 581 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 4: the perfect situation in the NFL, And I'm not sure 582 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 4: there's a perfect situation in the NFL. I mean, the 583 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 4: Eagles have a pretty good ownership group. They seem to 584 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 4: be competently run, but the Jets aren't. You don't want 585 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 4: to go there. Jacksonville's going to get Trevor Lawrence and 586 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 4: have a ton of cap space. That's good, but you 587 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: don't know about the ownership, And Sean Conna said, I 588 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 4: want to be in charge of personnel. I just don't 589 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 4: know that any of those situations is perfect enough to 590 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 4: leave Ohio State for if you're thinking about it, just logically, 591 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 4: why would you leave a situation that is set up 592 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 4: for you to succeed for fifteen years. 593 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: I don't disagree. It's I mean, the fact is that 594 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: urban Meyer set that place up with how well he 595 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: built up that program from the inside, that the recruiting department, 596 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 2: everything is set up for a coach to succeed on 597 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 2: a huge level, and Ryan Day has taken advantage. I mean, 598 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: it seems like a no brainer to me. But I 599 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: always assume that there's like a fire in these people. 600 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, some people just want to you know. 601 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: I think Joe Brady would have been a really good 602 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: college coach, but he wanted to go back to the NFL. 603 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 4: He's going to be an NFL head coach, and that's great. 604 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: You know, some people don't want to recruit. Some people 605 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 4: would rather just be x's and o's, and that's fine, 606 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 4: that's that's it's just a personal. 607 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: Preference, right, And Ryan Day likes recruiting. I assume he's 608 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: really good at it. He's good at it. 609 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: I'm not sure any. 610 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 4: How much any adult enjoys talking to the seventeen year 611 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 4: olds all the time, right, I do think, you know, 612 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: there's some people who are just a lot better at 613 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 4: it than most. 614 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, I like Nick Saban's whole way of operating 615 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: of I'm not going to do anything digitally. You tell 616 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: me when it is that I should pick up the phone, 617 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: and I'm going to give everybody I should be calling 618 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: a phone call. That's a good place to get to. 619 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 4: In life, right Or you hand me the iPad with 620 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 4: the person already connected on Zoom or whatever it is, 621 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 4: and I will talk to them. 622 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 623 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: No, that's definitely the way to go. Who's the closest now? 624 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: Texas A and M was the clear closest Power five 625 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: program to the playoffs this year. They've recruited well, they 626 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: have a national championship winning coach, They're in a place 627 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: where they can attract a ton of talent, and their 628 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: main competition for talent is either I guess LSU or Texas. 629 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: LSU is always going to recruit well. Texas is always 630 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: going to recruit well. Do you see an m's trajectory upward? 631 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: Static downward? Where do they go from here? Now that 632 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: they have finally hit a new high under Jimbo, I. 633 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: Think they're still headed up. 634 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: The problem is the West is going to get even 635 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 4: better because I think LSU is going to be pretty 636 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 4: good again because I think they're getting their coordinator hires right. 637 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: Hired the oc at Jake Pets, I think they got 638 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: that one right. The names you hear for DC sound 639 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 4: like they're going to get that right, and just the 640 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 4: level of talent that they return anytime LSU doesn't have 641 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 4: a lot of guys drafted, be scared of LSU the 642 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 4: next year. But that said, I do think Texas A 643 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 4: and M brings back an awful lot. I love the 644 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: idea of an offense that is kind of built around 645 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: the Swiss Army knives, Anaiyah Smith and Devon a Chain, 646 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 4: and I love Jalen Wierdermeyer the tight end. They've got 647 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 4: another tight end night named Baylor Cup who's never gotten 648 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: to play. He's had season ending injuries his first two 649 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: years during preseason practice, but he is a long, good 650 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: route runner. You could put him on the field with 651 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: Widermeyer and really have a ton of mismatches, especially given 652 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 4: the different things you can do with Smith and a Chain. 653 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: So I think I think they could be very good. 654 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 4: To Marvin Leal on the other side of the ball 655 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: is special, so that they're going to have talent to 656 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 4: compete with these teams, And I think after A like 657 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: this now that mentally they've got the confidence that they 658 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: can go play with anybody. And so we'll see what 659 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 4: happens with Texas A and M. But I do think 660 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: Texas A and M and LSU are going to push 661 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: Alabama in the SEC West. 662 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: Now can they push past them? I don't know. I 663 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 3: you know, we'll find out how good Bryce Young is. 664 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 4: But I do think the SEC West is going to 665 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 4: be very tough, and then the the X factor there 666 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 4: Ole Miss isn't going to compete for the SEC West 667 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 4: title by any stretch, but they're going to be. They're 668 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: gonna bother everybody that you have to be very afraid 669 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: of beating you on that Saturday, Like you, they are 670 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: going to beat somebody they're not supposed to. 671 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you like Haynes King? I mean I think 672 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: he's the answer at quarterback. 673 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: Do you like him? 674 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: As for somebody who will add to them pushing Alabama LSU? 675 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 3: I would think so. I want to see more of them. 676 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I think Kellen Mond was a was a good, 677 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 4: fine college quarterback, but they need to be probably a 678 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 4: little more special at that position, and given their location, 679 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: they should be. To find somebody who fits that Bill, 680 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 4: So maybe King will be that guy again. Like I know, 681 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 4: I keep going back to the quarterback recruiting as a crapshoot, 682 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 4: but it really is. Right, It's very hard to know 683 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 4: who's going to be good. But I think with the 684 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: weapons he's going to have around him, I think he's 685 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 4: off to a pretty good start. 686 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 687 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's sort of the NFL draft thing where 688 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: teams that build up picks. It's about taking as many 689 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: shots as possible. So when you're in you know, you're 690 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: an hour and a half, two hours from Houston and 691 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: can attract some of the best quarterbacks in Texas and 692 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: beyond Texas, A and M can take shots. It's easier 693 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: to find a really strong quarterback at a place. 694 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 4: It's also sort of like the Baker Mayfield thing now 695 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 4: with the Browns. I mean, think about where the guys 696 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 4: he plays with were picked. Now, they were picked very 697 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: high in the draft. You get enough high draft picks 698 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 4: and you draft them competently, which it seems like latter 699 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: day Browns GMS did, then you got a chance. And 700 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 4: with college it's even easier because if you can recruit competently, 701 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 4: you put those pieces in place and then Eventually you're 702 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 4: gonna have the quarterback and he's going to be in 703 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 4: a system that's a little bit easier for him to adjust. 704 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 4: He doesn't have to be a superhero coming in, and 705 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: I think that's going to be the case with the 706 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: A and M next year. You're not going to need 707 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: that QB to be superman. You're going to need him 708 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 4: to be a good, adequate game manager. And then if 709 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 4: he's better than that, then you get into some really 710 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 4: interesting conversations. 711 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: Are they all right? I mean, I love Anya Smith. 712 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: I think he is going to become a household name 713 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: next year. How are they at receiver otherwise, because it 714 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: seemed like it was just for the most part of 715 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: last year. Kellen mon to Jalen Widermeyer. Kellen mon to 716 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: Jalen Widermeyer, like, where are the options emerging? 717 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: If Caleb Chapman comes back healthy. I mean, he was 718 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 4: really starting to break out before he tore his ACL 719 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 4: against Florida, and he was one that they were excited 720 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 4: about for a while, and they just he had injuries 721 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 4: and he never could quite get healthy. And right when 722 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 4: he's breaking out, he gets hurt. And then Demon Demas 723 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 4: is the guy who was the big recruit everybody thought 724 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: would be a splash this year. 725 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: He wasn't. 726 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean he's not capable of it. I mean, 727 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 4: if you look at what he did in high school, 728 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 4: he's really good. So that's going to depend on how 729 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 4: hard he wants to work to get to that point. 730 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: Those are the five teams that were to me from 731 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: a talent perspective, from a results perspective, playoff where the 732 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 2: Texas A and M was right there. I just want 733 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: to go here now to close it out. How's your body? 734 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: How's your eating? You lost a bunch of weight, you 735 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: stopped eating breakfast, you sort of changed how you ate, 736 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: and are you eating? Are you cooking new food? What 737 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: is the twenty twenty one early report? 738 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: Feeling good? Feeling good? 739 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: So we are coming up on the year anniversary of 740 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 4: me starting the Internet and fasting. 741 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: I love it. 742 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: We took a vacation to Utah last year and I 743 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 4: gorged myself there and came back and. 744 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 3: Said, I'm going to change the way. 745 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: Huh. 746 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 4: And so I started the Internet fasting and I do 747 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 4: the eight sixteen and lost about forty pounds and I 748 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 4: haven't lost much weight in the last probably five months. 749 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 4: Or so it's just been real steady. But I've been 750 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 4: kind of changing my body in other ways, just in 751 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 4: terms of lifting weights and different workouts, trying to get 752 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 4: leaner and get more muscular if I can. And so 753 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 4: when we get back, we're going to do the same 754 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 4: trip again. We're leaving on Friday and we'll be back 755 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 4: next Wednesday. When we get back, I am going to 756 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 4: restrict my calories quite a bit and see if I 757 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 4: can drop about twenty more pounds. I was too eighty 758 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 4: when I got back last year and about two forty 759 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 4: right now. I'd like to get down about two twenty 760 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 4: and see if it's something I can that I can 761 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 4: keep up. If I can't, then I can't. I'm not 762 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 4: going to starve myself forever now. But I do feel 763 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 4: like with the fasting, you can maintain a lot easier 764 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 4: than you can when you're trying to just manage it 765 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 4: all without a lot of rules. And so I feel 766 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 4: like I still don't feel deprived of anything right, and 767 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 4: I think that's the best thing for me. Other people 768 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 4: probably find it easier to just cut out carbs or 769 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: to do other things. For me, I don't want to 770 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 4: cut out a certain food. I'd like the option to 771 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 4: eat whatever I want, but the hard and fast rule 772 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 4: of you cannot eat it at this time of day, 773 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 4: it just works for me. That's much easier for me 774 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: to stick to. 775 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm total sam Page. I've done it for two 776 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: or three years. I don't even know how long I've 777 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 2: been doing it. And you do it for a few 778 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: days and it's it's not a problem. You have some 779 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 2: black coffee, you drink a bunch of water, your stomach 780 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: fills up. You're all right. Have you gotten good at cooking? 781 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: Anything new? Have you? Have you changed? Not changed, but 782 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: have you added to your repertoire. 783 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 4: I add a dirty rice during the pandemic. That was 784 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 4: I could make a big pot of and just eat 785 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 4: off of for a while. 786 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 2: Walk me through the ingredients and process. 787 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 3: It's it's pretty easy. 788 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you just take your sausage and you brown 789 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 4: it with your trinity mix, which is onions, celery, and 790 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 4: green pepper, and then you're gonna that. 791 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 3: You put your rice in with. 792 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 4: Your with your broth you can do beef broth or 793 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 4: chicken broth and uh, and then cook it down just 794 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 4: like you normally would rice. 795 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: I like to use Slappy Mamma cage in seasoning. 796 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, you gotta you gotta add 797 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 2: something to that to give to Spike. 798 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 4: Other people make their own, or they use Tony Sature's 799 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 4: or whatever, but I Slappy MoMA seems to work for me. 800 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 3: And that's the one my kids like the best. 801 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 4: And you know, it's just it's just fantastic because it's it. 802 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 4: It can be a side dish, it can be a meal, 803 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 4: and it's always good. And it's one of those things 804 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 4: that if you don't live in Louisiana, you don't think 805 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 4: about all that much, but when you're when when it's 806 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 4: offered to you, you're like, oh, yeah, I'll take dirty Rice. 807 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 4: So that that one, I think has been my favorite 808 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 4: edition this year. 809 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 2: Every time I've been to New Orleans, I eat dirty Rice. 810 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: And every time I've been to Oh what's the chain 811 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: in Texas? The Papas Brothers, Papado Oh, Papa Doo yeah, 812 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: Papa Doo. 813 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 814 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: Like, just throw me aside of dirty rice please, just if. 815 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: You're if you're in Houston, there's a place called the 816 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 4: Turkey Leg Hut. Oh Turkey Like Hut is maybe the 817 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 4: best New restaurant in America in the last five years. 818 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 3: It is exactly what it says it is. 819 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 4: They serve turkey legs, but they serve a bunch of 820 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 4: different kinds of turkey legs, and one of the turkey 821 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 4: legs they have is a shrimp alfredo turkey leg. So 822 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 4: they smoke a turkey leg and essentially hollow a little 823 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 4: bit of it out. They you know, they don't. You 824 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 4: don't take the meat out. You just kind of loosen 825 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 4: it up a little bit, create stuff, a bunch of stuff, 826 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 4: a bunch of dirty rice in there, and then they 827 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 4: cover it in alfredo sauce and shrimp. It is like 828 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 4: the first time I ate it, I didn't realize that I. 829 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 3: Was just drooling all over the table as I hate it. 830 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 3: It was that good. I lost all sense of propriety. 831 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: What's not to like? All right? Andy Staples the Athletic 832 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 2: The Andy Staples Show key contributing member to The Andy 833 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 2: Staples Show. He is his own best friend. As he 834 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 2: claimed in the opening of the show, thank you very 835 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: much for your time and enjoy Utah, enjoy the altitude. 836 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 3: Altitude and cold. It's what I'm built for.