WEBVTT - Ep. 18: Digesting the Season Opener | Jags A.M. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in the Jags find a way to win in

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<v Speaker 1>week one in Indie. You guys, what was the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>play for you in yesterday's game?

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<v Speaker 2>Jamal Agnew has to be the biggest play of the game, right,

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<v Speaker 2>The big punt return could have been inside the ten

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<v Speaker 2>and then it ends up positive territory, Jags turning too

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<v Speaker 2>the go ahead that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't forget about the forgotten guy in this offense all

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<v Speaker 3>off season, Zay Jones. An amazing catch, and if he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make that catch all of a sudden, the score

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<v Speaker 3>and the tone of that game is different for a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of quarters.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome into Jags A.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm our first victory Monday, Jags A, I'm Brind's out

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<v Speaker 1>with us today. Brent Martineau stepping in. We appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>John Oser here as always. I'm sure going to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that he was correct about how.

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<v Speaker 4>The game was going to play out. We'll let and

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<v Speaker 4>get to that in a little bit. I know you're

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<v Speaker 4>just chomping at the vit to tell us you were right.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're presented by Carshield here today and we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hundai studios.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just this is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I was excited to finally talk about some football, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all predicted in Jags win. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we predicted it in that manner, Brent. Are we

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<v Speaker 1>surprised by how things played out?

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<v Speaker 4>Or is it just a Week one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think Week one is weird, so you got

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<v Speaker 2>to expect the unexpected. But I don't think any of

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<v Speaker 2>us thought the Jaguars defense was going to steal the show.

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<v Speaker 2>For the last eight months, nobody was talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>Jags defense. All of a sudden, it stole the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the Jags defense would play better this season

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<v Speaker 2>because they would be in the lead. Wasn't necessarily the case.

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<v Speaker 2>They had to actually keep the Jags offense in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what was so different.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I read both of your previews for the file

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<v Speaker 3>analysis that we do on Jaguars dot Com, and I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thought we all were in agreement that it

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<v Speaker 3>would be a game where the fans were expecting this blowout.

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<v Speaker 5>Wings You'd heard so much about.

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<v Speaker 3>This team, and I think we all thought there'd be

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<v Speaker 3>Week one, there'd be some Anthony richardson big plays, there'd

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<v Speaker 3>be some weirdness. You don't get weirder than the Forrest Buckner,

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess I wasn't surprised all the way it

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<v Speaker 3>played out, and I'm getting a lot of angst in

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<v Speaker 3>my inbox and people just you know, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Where are we, Brent? When you score thirty one and.

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<v Speaker 3>You're criticizing the play calling, you win by ten with

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<v Speaker 3>a weird defensive touchdown on the other side, so maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you should have won by seventeen, and.

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<v Speaker 5>People are mad. It's a new area, Jaguar.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's really think about the years, Brent, when

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<v Speaker 3>it would have been cartwheels over that game.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guilty of it too, John, because that game did

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<v Speaker 2>not feel rhythmic, great stuff we've seen in the preseason,

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<v Speaker 2>and you look up at the end of the day

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<v Speaker 2>they have thirty one points, like, okay, I'll stop.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's important though.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the fact that they can do that and

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<v Speaker 3>not feel like they're in tune or in sync if

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<v Speaker 3>you will, it does show you the expectations on this team,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's important for a team not to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to play well. And because they said it

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<v Speaker 3>was sloppy and still put up thirty one and still

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<v Speaker 3>feel it never got a hand and they pulled away

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<v Speaker 3>at the end. So that was I said to somebody

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<v Speaker 3>last year after the Washington game, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, there was a good NFL loss.

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<v Speaker 3>We had so many bad losses here in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, after that Washington game, you

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<v Speaker 3>felt like they were gonna be okay. They were planned. Well, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a good NFL win. Yeah it was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because you.

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<v Speaker 5>Could have lost it.

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<v Speaker 3>Polar opposites those two openers, and I think it shows

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<v Speaker 3>you how far they've come.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel I don't know if Kai knows this

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<v Speaker 2>because I said it to were on Jaguars All Access.

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<v Speaker 2>She's coming in at a good time. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>Doug Peterson realizes this. This is not a game the

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<v Speaker 2>Jags win over the last fifteen years. They do not

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<v Speaker 2>make plays in the fourth quarter to win. We are

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<v Speaker 2>still getting used to that around here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go over some of the big things, because we

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<v Speaker 1>touched on them a little bit. But big thing number

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<v Speaker 1>one is good teams find a way because they do.

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<v Speaker 1>As we've mentioned here, good teams find a way to win.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said this before. The Jags haven't found a

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<v Speaker 1>way to win in the past, but now they're a

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<v Speaker 1>good team and they found that way. I think at

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<v Speaker 1>one point they went forward on fourth down. John, we

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<v Speaker 1>were discussing it in the press box. You're like, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>take the points, maybe don't go for it. And Doug

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson he's all about it. He's got that I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got that gut, he's ready to go. He'll stomach

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that ending of that play was going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>but end up working out. So he looks very, very smart.

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<v Speaker 1>But they found a way to win. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>rely on that and feel a little bit good about

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<v Speaker 1>how things ended up.

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<v Speaker 5>John, Yeah, I think you feel like good.

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<v Speaker 3>The sequence we were talking about was when the Jags

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<v Speaker 3>had the ball down twenty one seventeen and it was

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<v Speaker 3>fourth down within field goal range at that time, A

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<v Speaker 3>conventional wisdom old days, which Doug Peterson is not a

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<v Speaker 3>conventional wisdom old days coach, I would have kicked a

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<v Speaker 3>field goal gotten within one with the idea that at

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<v Speaker 3>that point the Colts, after their touchdown to Michael Pittman,

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<v Speaker 3>had twenty seven yards until that final drive when it

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<v Speaker 3>was sort of mop up top.

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<v Speaker 5>The defense was stopping him and Anthony Richardson was not

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<v Speaker 5>going to move them, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought kick the field goal. Stop him, get another

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<v Speaker 3>field goal and you probably win the game. Doesn't think

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<v Speaker 3>that way, as I told kaya said, that's why he

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<v Speaker 3>lives where he lives, and I live in Springfield.

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<v Speaker 1>They fat him the big bucks for that, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Our big thing. Number two, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. He touched on that a little bit. They

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<v Speaker 1>kind of same today. We've been giving them. You know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people been complaining about the past rush.

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<v Speaker 1>How are they going to get to it? Josh Allen said,

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<v Speaker 1>I got this myself. He had three tackles for lost

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<v Speaker 1>three sacks when they have seven sacks all of last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's clearly above pace already. After game one, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he looked like a man on fire out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the monster. The play he's not even get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of credit or enough credit. I already seen

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<v Speaker 2>people say, well he ran it Richardson out of bounds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like he ran Richardson out of boonds. Go back

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<v Speaker 2>and look at that play, and I'm telling you, guys

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<v Speaker 2>that are elite in this league don't make that play.

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<v Speaker 2>And he made some others too. He was terrific. But John,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've got to give credit to the secondary

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<v Speaker 2>here because some of those sacks were coverage sacks. Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Richardson didn't like what he saw. I had to escape

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<v Speaker 2>the pocket or stay in the pocket. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>unsung hero of this game is really the secondary of

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars, not that they're electric on the outside. They

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<v Speaker 2>did their job, they did it well. They allowed the

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<v Speaker 2>Jags to eat up front a little bit when they

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<v Speaker 2>had to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought there were some coverage rookie quarterback sacks.

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<v Speaker 3>At the same time. They had four against somebody who's

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<v Speaker 3>not as unbelievably strong as this kid. They probably have

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<v Speaker 3>seven because they were on them a lot. So however,

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<v Speaker 3>those numbers work out. You take sacks where you can

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<v Speaker 3>get them through the year because you missed so many

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<v Speaker 3>that are so close. They'll take the four they got yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>An impressive defensive effort. I thought, if you focused on

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<v Speaker 3>one thing, they stopped him four or five times on

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<v Speaker 3>fourth down against the old school, conservative old man and

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<v Speaker 3>me Brent. This has become a fourth down league, especially

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<v Speaker 3>with coaches you know, Peterson and Psyching psychings out of

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<v Speaker 3>that Philadelphia school that goes forward a lot stop on

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<v Speaker 3>fourth down in some games.

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<v Speaker 5>It's become the new third.

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<v Speaker 2>Down Money's down money downs were bad for both teams.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way seven thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't a good look. It wasn't a good look.

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<v Speaker 1>Our last big thing off the top is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be O line because going into Renny Camp, we thought

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line was gonna be a strong suit, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the deepest section of this team. But it looked tough

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<v Speaker 1>at times yesterday and Brendan Sheriff also had an injury. John,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the O line? Is this something

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<v Speaker 1>they can figure out? Is this an off thing? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this a game one thing?

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<v Speaker 4>What are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think thing to remember offensive line can be tough

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<v Speaker 3>in the opener because just like with other parts of

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<v Speaker 3>the of the coaching staff, defenses scheme all season for

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<v Speaker 3>like this one game, and they do things you don't expect.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing to remember is, as Trevor Lawrence said

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<v Speaker 3>after the game, the interior of the Colts defense is

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<v Speaker 3>their strength. It's one of the best in the league,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think we sort of overlooked. I even said

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<v Speaker 3>it last week. Well to Forest Bugn, you should be

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<v Speaker 3>able to stop at defensive tackle. Yeah, well, he's an

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<v Speaker 3>All Pro defensive tackle and he's really good and that's

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<v Speaker 3>the strength and Gus is a good, experienced defensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 5>They're a defense that's still believed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Week one is so tough, I've always thought

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<v Speaker 3>because nobody believes they're bad, yet nobody has any negatives

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<v Speaker 3>to believe, well, we're not gonna be good this year.

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<v Speaker 3>By week eight or nine, teams sort of know what

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<v Speaker 3>they are, so they know they're not gonna win certain games.

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<v Speaker 3>The Colts weren't feeling that, so they thought they were

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<v Speaker 3>gonna win the game. I'm not overly worried about the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line because I believe Phil rash is gonna figure

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<v Speaker 3>this out. I believe they were okay last year. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's gonna be fine going forward. But I'm sort

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<v Speaker 3>of in the minority. Everybody's concerned about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I'll tell you why I'm mostly concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about in in a second. But I think also, the

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<v Speaker 2>Colts don't always come across as his physical team. We've

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<v Speaker 2>covered them for a long time around here. The Titans,

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<v Speaker 2>different story. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, those are the teams you think

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<v Speaker 2>physical Jacks got whooped up front. I mean that defensive

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<v Speaker 2>front really did a number on the Jags even on

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<v Speaker 2>the good place, Trevor's running for his life a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit and making something happen with his legs. Here's where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned about the offensive line. They are banged up

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<v Speaker 2>quietly right Walker Little didn't play that last preseason game

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<v Speaker 2>against Miami. He was nursing the slight growing thing. He

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<v Speaker 2>had a tough couple of series at one time in

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<v Speaker 2>this football game. You look at a guy like Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>who also had some tough moments shoulder right. Sheriff now

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<v Speaker 2>with the injury, so they're not mate well, Sheriff could

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<v Speaker 2>be a little more than sure minor, but they're battling

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<v Speaker 2>some things. One caveat hit me last night at like

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock, which means I think too much about the

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<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville Jaguars. Remember last year it's Washington and the opener.

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<v Speaker 2>They were terrible in the opener, the offensive line. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there were forty drop back passes in that game,

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<v Speaker 2>and Trevor got hard red twenty times, so fifty. They

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<v Speaker 2>did not play well. They went not to play very well.

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<v Speaker 2>So Rauscher, to your point, and company got better as

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<v Speaker 2>a season one.

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<v Speaker 3>Awe, they also did okay, And I don't want a

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<v Speaker 3>great on a curve, but they did ok in spots,

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<v Speaker 3>good protection, the A Jones touchdown, and don't forget it's

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<v Speaker 3>hard to run in this league. They stuck with it

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<v Speaker 3>and by the fourth quarter when they needed it, it

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<v Speaker 3>was there. And you know one thing we haven't talked

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<v Speaker 3>about yet. I overlooked him because I was on the

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<v Speaker 3>bigsby traying all all pre seasons good and that last run.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I had some fans, well, he didn't run

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<v Speaker 5>the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>If you watched that last run, Travis Etn had a

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<v Speaker 3>nice run on that and he we had talked about

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<v Speaker 3>him as a dark horse for MVP outside of Trevor.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not nothing. He's he's he's got it.

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<v Speaker 2>This year he had like over one hundred yards of

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<v Speaker 2>total offense, which it didn't feel like. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>overlook him. I loved the guy and I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most underrated players in the National Football

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<v Speaker 2>League coming off of last year. Simply put, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a weapon they got to utilize the more I

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<v Speaker 2>thought they should have screen gained them a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, yesterday, and it's odd to think about Travis

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<v Speaker 3>having one hundred quiet yards. I was stunned when I

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<v Speaker 3>looked at it and he had over one hundred totally yards.

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<v Speaker 5>But he got it in workmanlike fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's getting yards in workman like fashion, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have a monster year because the huge plays are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>come for.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, absolutely, as we saw at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>game yesterday. All Right, coming up, we're gonna go over

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<v Speaker 1>all the highlights from yesterday's game, including one of the weirdest.

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<v Speaker 4>Plays I've seen in professional football. So we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're back here on Jags Am victory Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Good times for us. We're gonna go over some of

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<v Speaker 1>the highlights because it was a weird one and if

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of emotions, ups and downs for sure, But

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<v Speaker 1>starting out early, we saw exactly what we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see between Trevor Lawrence and Calvin Ridley because Calvin Ridley's

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<v Speaker 1>just doing Calvin Ridley things. Because he of course had

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<v Speaker 1>to find Calvin Ridley in the back of the end

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<v Speaker 1>zone for the first touchdown of the game and the

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<v Speaker 1>first shutdown for Ridley in a while Bright where you

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that they had that connection right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>Not really we talked about all week. I thought they'd

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<v Speaker 2>actually kill the out route much more, but gust and

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<v Speaker 2>the defense kind of took that away. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous play, but again, he has to run away from pressure,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you watch the end zone angle of this,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like you almost throws a no look past

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<v Speaker 2>the Riddley because Brenton Strange is wide open. So then

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<v Speaker 2>the defender jump ends up over there jumping the Brenton

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<v Speaker 2>Strange part of this.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's be fair. He ran away from pressure, but

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<v Speaker 5>he'd already been in the pocket like four seconds at

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<v Speaker 5>that point.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know you're banging the offensive line this week,

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<v Speaker 3>but I thought the offensive line was fine on that.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens, he was looking for Ingram and they had

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<v Speaker 3>it covered. Tram made a great play getting back around,

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<v Speaker 3>was never really pressured on the play. Here's what's striking

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred yards in a touchdown for Ridley and you

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<v Speaker 3>sort of felt after the game why he could add

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, there you know, and I'm getting emails. Why did

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<v Speaker 3>they use Christian, Well, you can't use everybody. This offense

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<v Speaker 3>I think had three hundred and twenty yesterday. There are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be weeks where this thing gets going. You saw

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<v Speaker 3>flashes of it, and it's going to be a share

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<v Speaker 3>of the wealth.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked about people that were going to benefit from,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that coverage on Ridley's a Jones. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a day yesterday and one of the prettiest catches I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in quite some time in that back of the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone, going down and getting that with one hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you talked to say on the ozone podcast, John,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's excited.

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<v Speaker 4>For the role he plays. Whatever role that's going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and he's good in that role because he's really dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>If if you double Ridley or if you take other

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<v Speaker 3>things away, he can sure beat single coverage whenever he

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<v Speaker 3>has it. I thought this play, you know, don't discount

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of throws that Trevor Lawrence made yesterday, this one,

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<v Speaker 3>the one down the sidelines to Ingram quietly. Trevor Lawrence

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<v Speaker 3>his talent in this game and his status I think

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<v Speaker 3>is a top ten quarterback now. And rising was a

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<v Speaker 3>big difference between two quarterbacks who Richardson couldn't make those throws.

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<v Speaker 5>In the NFL, those things matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle also think that shows a lot of trust too,

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<v Speaker 2>because that play showed trust to get it to Zay

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<v Speaker 2>Jones early before the Ridley touchdowns, a twenty four yard

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<v Speaker 2>play kind of just throws up to him and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go get We make a play.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good throw and everything, but its reminiscent of

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<v Speaker 2>that Miami game where he threw the one down the

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<v Speaker 2>sideline to him. He's starting to trust these guys and

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<v Speaker 2>really he trusts himself.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't win if you don't have that in the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL between quarterback and receiver.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a good sign. There were three or four plays

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<v Speaker 5>like that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to one of the weirdest things I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen in professional football, because why not to for s Buckner,

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<v Speaker 1>who we did talk about but clearly did not give

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<v Speaker 1>enough credit to that. So obviously they called it a bumble.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you could think at first maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>an incomplete pass, but everybody stopped. And I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first things Doug said after game was we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this every single Thursday you played in the

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<v Speaker 1>West All you just always play until things are dead dead,

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<v Speaker 1>the play is over, and they did it. And unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a little bit of a mental mistake there, Brent.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you play make much of it or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just a hey, one off, We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to see that again. Maybe there was two Brookies on

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<v Speaker 1>that side involved in it and it just wasn't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they just didn't fall through on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you see this from time to time

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<v Speaker 2>in the league where it's just one of these wacky plays.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a nothing play at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, One because you want and overcame it, and

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<v Speaker 2>two because I don't think we're going to see it again.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not really sure, Like, yeah, it's a learning

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<v Speaker 2>point if your coach all that stuff played through the whistle,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think it mightn't be a play at the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL wants to look at the play's done. He's given

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<v Speaker 2>himself up and it should the play still be active.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know how you officiate that if not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got to play to the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the whistle all that stuff, but everyone on the field

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just Tank bigs people. Most everybody on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>even DeForrest Bucker, thought it was incomplete right alert give.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm drawing a blank in the linebacker's name who forced

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<v Speaker 3>it out played really well yesterday. If that ball, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's killing Tank Bigsby because he had.

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<v Speaker 5>The drop in the first half. There was a tough

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and he had this one.

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<v Speaker 3>My guess is if that ball had bounced to ten

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<v Speaker 3>other Jaguars, probably eight of them do this same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked like Evan knew what was going on because

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<v Speaker 3>he was still trying to follow the ball most colts did.

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<v Speaker 3>It flashed in my mind that they might stop it

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<v Speaker 3>for giving himself up. I think had he been on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground, that might have had a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>Looking back at the play, I watched it again last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how else the officials could have correctly

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<v Speaker 3>officiated it under how it is now, because since he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't on the ground, he wasn't as much giving himself up.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, you watch this game for thirty years, you

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<v Speaker 3>think you've seen everything, and invariably, once a week you

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<v Speaker 3>see something where you think, oh.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why officiating is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day, this was Miles Jack's fault.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 4>You want it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's very true, very true.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move things forward because this is a

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<v Speaker 1>turning point, just this drive as a whole. It started

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<v Speaker 1>with Agnew's return, right, he hadn't been getting a ton

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<v Speaker 1>We obviously know he's capable, but he chose to run

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<v Speaker 1>this one back goes across the field. It's a Huger

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<v Speaker 1>turnout of it. And I really felt the momentum change

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<v Speaker 1>because before that you were kind of like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing? Like it didn't feel great, and then this

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<v Speaker 1>huge momentum turner. Down on fourth down, they go to

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<v Speaker 1>Za Jones to get the first down, and then these

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<v Speaker 1>two back to back plays from Tank Bigsby, who they

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<v Speaker 1>did not shy away from. I mean maybe he mad

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<v Speaker 1>had some rookie moments, but they went to him after

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<v Speaker 1>that and they pushed him down to the one yard

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<v Speaker 1>line and then Trevor follows him in for the score

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<v Speaker 1>right after this, and just showing that trust brand in

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<v Speaker 1>a rookies where you know, maybe they're not doing everything

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<v Speaker 1>you want, but if you're gonna play a rookie, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta let him have those moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I don't know if they win the game, if

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<v Speaker 2>they have to start in the ball at the five

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<v Speaker 2>or seven or ten yard line. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they do the way the offense was fut or

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<v Speaker 2>not going ninety yards in that football game. I also

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<v Speaker 2>think the play, well, fourth and two is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the most underrated to play the game because it's

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<v Speaker 2>a nice job by Trevor to find Jay and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the call to go for it. But this is the

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<v Speaker 2>play because the offensive line wasn't great yesterday, Tank Bigsby

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't great yesterday, but in this moment, they all were awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I give Brenton Strange from credit here too,

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<v Speaker 3>basically got it. He gets his hands around Bigsby's waist,

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<v Speaker 3>said okay, we're going in. Yeah, and as strange as

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<v Speaker 3>a rookie too. Again this drive, that's Zay Jones play.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fifty seven, Brent, so I'm probably not going to

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<v Speaker 3>change my old man ways.

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<v Speaker 5>That is not a play that you was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight first down attemp I mean eight first down attempts

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<v Speaker 3>on fourth down. Yeah, it got routine there for a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's routine to go for that.

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<v Speaker 4>You go.

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<v Speaker 5>That's high risk.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of old coaches are rolling in their grave saying,

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<v Speaker 3>how in the world don't you kick a field goal there?

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<v Speaker 3>You've got Richardson on his heels. You probably kick and

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<v Speaker 3>get it back at your own forty You trust your kicker.

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<v Speaker 5>Not today.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was confidence in the offense

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<v Speaker 2>or lack of confidence.

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<v Speaker 4>In the reverse. It was like, we don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to get another chance. We got to go

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<v Speaker 4>or chance?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that good?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Because when you get a turnover or which essentially was

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<v Speaker 2>like a turnover from Agnew, you want to take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of it and make sure you get something out of

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<v Speaker 2>it so you can easily see kicking.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the way do Peterson believes, no doubt he is

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<v Speaker 3>going to go for it on the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, we don't mind. And nobody in Jacksonville mindset

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<v Speaker 2>anymore because they're confident in it too. And like I

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<v Speaker 2>was alright with the fourth and two because I was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty confident they can get two yards all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it wasn't easy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I confess that I turned to Cassi, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong move. But again, unfortunately they have me far

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<v Speaker 3>far away from.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get over bred.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you talked a little bit about the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>and what they were able to do. We saw Cisco

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<v Speaker 1>force a fumble and then also Tyson Campbell's interception. We

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to have a big year and I

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<v Speaker 1>know some sports down anyway, right so it because it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have mattered. But this interception here from him and

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<v Speaker 1>what we were able to see the defense as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>they really kind of save the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought secondary was terrific. Again, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>the most explosive offense in the NFL, especially on the outside,

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<v Speaker 2>but they did their job. This was a huge play. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what you do when you win in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter. You put the game away with a play

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<v Speaker 2>like this. Tyson said he tried to bait them a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit and good ball skills. John. This is one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite guys that I've covered in fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>here in Jacksonville. Really good game, because though you could

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<v Speaker 2>see the maturation of them, the first half of his

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<v Speaker 2>rookie season wasn't pretty. Heck, the first half of last year,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's wondering if he's gonna get his head turned around

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<v Speaker 2>on ball so he can make interceptions. Nobody's asking that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And I haven't looked this up yet, but if you

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<v Speaker 2>go back probably to the last i'd say eight games

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<v Speaker 2>of last year and now this one, you're starting to

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<v Speaker 2>see Tyson Campbell make big plays, get his hands on

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<v Speaker 2>the football, forced fumbles, pick up fumbles, get interceptions. This

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<v Speaker 2>kid's a good player.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what you have to do when you're playing

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<v Speaker 3>a young quarterback. And it was second and ten.

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<v Speaker 5>All game.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked to me like the Colts smartly kept Richardson

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<v Speaker 3>in situations where he was over his feet. I like

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<v Speaker 3>to say, didn't have to do things he didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to do. Of a sudden, for the first time you're down,

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<v Speaker 3>you're down by what.

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<v Speaker 5>Was it four or three?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, now, all of a sudden, it's not as applicable

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<v Speaker 3>to take the short pass. He goes downfield into a

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<v Speaker 3>defense that he doesn't want to throw into, and finally

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<v Speaker 3>they get the pick off of him and turn the game.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what the reason you think you're gonna beat rookie

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<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks is because it plays like that, and the Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it, and you have to take advantage when given

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<v Speaker 1>that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>And it absolutely did.

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<v Speaker 5>And a big time played by Tyson.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, oh, for sure, he has turned himself in in

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<v Speaker 3>his third year. He's now a veteran corner and one

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<v Speaker 3>of the core guys on this franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna end things with that clincher for us. Etn,

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<v Speaker 1>who we just talked about, had that quite a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>This last play was not quiet from him to bounce

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside and just find open space.

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<v Speaker 4>John, did we think he could do this?

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<v Speaker 1>I know we've been talking about Tank a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and we did talk about Etn, but just what he's

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<v Speaker 1>been able to do this season so far and even

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<v Speaker 1>in preseason like the Flashes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this was impressive because remember last year I must

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<v Speaker 3>have asked him to or three different times during the

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<v Speaker 3>season in locker room he would get so close to

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<v Speaker 3>taking to the house, and now all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>he goes the whole game where he didn't, and then

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<v Speaker 3>when the opportunity is there, calmly finds the whole and

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<v Speaker 3>then accelerates right there. I mean, I thought this because

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<v Speaker 3>you felt like it was about to be over anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>Brings they were gonna kick a field goal.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe this play gets lost a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was an impressive run. It's the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of run that gets backs to the numbers they want,

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<v Speaker 3>because all of a sudden, you've had a game where

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<v Speaker 3>he had what fifty, and he has one twenty six

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<v Speaker 3>yard run and at seventy and now you're on pace

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<v Speaker 3>to do what you want to do. Those are important

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<v Speaker 3>to those guys, not that day, but on Tuesday instead

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<v Speaker 3>of look at their numbers. Yeah, those matters.

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<v Speaker 5>So now he's got seventy and a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I overlooked it a little bit because I like

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<v Speaker 3>the way that Bagsby was playing so much in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't see Travis a whole lot. Uh bad on

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<v Speaker 3>me for forgetting how good this kid is.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's coming out of this game thinking, wow, Jags, they're

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<v Speaker 2>running attack is unbelievable. But to the biggest place it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be, to the biggest plays in the game where

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<v Speaker 2>the runs again Bigsby down to the one yard line

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<v Speaker 2>and then Etn finishing it off. And listen, he's got special,

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<v Speaker 2>special talent and he also knows how to take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's gonna give him enough credit for how tough is

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<v Speaker 2>a tough dude he keeps getting hit hard.

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<v Speaker 3>The biggest it's the biggest surprise about him that I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know come out of college last year was a

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<v Speaker 3>rookie seven eight different times. This kid runs hard. Credit

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<v Speaker 3>to Doug and and Press.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody in the league knows that you have to stick

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<v Speaker 3>with the run to make it work. Sometimes guys go

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<v Speaker 3>away from it. I was getting emails from fans all

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<v Speaker 3>day saying, what.

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<v Speaker 5>Are they doing? Guts.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't keep doing it, you don't get plays

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<v Speaker 3>like they did at the end. It takes veteran patience

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<v Speaker 3>and maturities at play caller to stick with it when

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<v Speaker 3>it's not worth.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me add one thing there, And you were gonna said,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm picking on the offensive line, I think they

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<v Speaker 2>had to stay with the run to keep them honest

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, because they were getting beat up front

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<v Speaker 2>of times.

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<v Speaker 5>I do not want to be in the locker room

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<v Speaker 5>when you walk in with the offensive linemen this season.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are big men. They are not gonna We've got.

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<v Speaker 5>To be old negative, Brent.

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<v Speaker 4>How dare you all right coming back?

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing hot takes here. We're gonna start off with John.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going mild to hot around this around this couch here.

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<v Speaker 4>So John, you go first. What was your hot take today?

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<v Speaker 5>Hooray for me, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, some people like mild wings. That's just the

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<v Speaker 4>way it works.

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<v Speaker 5>It's okay to.

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<v Speaker 3>Went that way in week one, and I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>beyond that, I know we've talked about a lot. I

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<v Speaker 3>actually thought they did a nice job of managing their situations,

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<v Speaker 3>considering there was some sloppiness.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't feel like they panicked.

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<v Speaker 3>They did a nice job in the first half of

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<v Speaker 3>when they had to grind it out. They grinded it

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<v Speaker 3>out and had a fourteen to seven lead and were

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<v Speaker 3>a smidge away from having that thing being a ten

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<v Speaker 3>point game at half, which I think would have changed

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<v Speaker 3>the dynamic in the second half, so I thought they

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<v Speaker 3>managed that well.

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<v Speaker 5>And then to stay calm in the fourth quarter when.

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<v Speaker 3>You're frustrated already because you're playing this Guest Bradley defense

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<v Speaker 3>that really doesn't let you take the shots and get it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then all of a sudden, with the offense almost flucially,

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<v Speaker 3>now you're down by four and you could have easily

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<v Speaker 3>gotten frustrated. Let it get out of hand, and they

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<v Speaker 3>come back in the fourth quarter and do it everybody

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<v Speaker 3>thought they would do all along, and the game. It's

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<v Speaker 3>been a theme all day for me. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was. It was a professional win. It got

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<v Speaker 3>him and guess what we're complaining about a team.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all in first place.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. Win's a win. I'm fine with the ten.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Brent, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you got, by the way, Defensive Player of the Year, Josh.

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<v Speaker 4>Allen, Right, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Remember kalay Is Campbell in twenty seventeen and

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<v Speaker 2>four and a half sacks against Houston to start the

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<v Speaker 2>year as a monster game. He ended up being in

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<v Speaker 2>the Defensive Player of the Year running the entire way.

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<v Speaker 2>It was debatable he didn't end up winning it. Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Is on a mission Josh had three sacks, three tackle

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<v Speaker 2>for loss. It was ten tackles. He has a chance now,

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<v Speaker 2>because of a start like that, to really stack up numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>T J.

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<v Speaker 2>Watt also had a hat trick. Obviously, he's a perennial

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<v Speaker 2>part of this conversation. The one thing about Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 2>now is can he be consistent? Because that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had monster games for Buffalo a couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>back and then it fell off the table. Can he

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<v Speaker 2>be consistent? But this has been brewing last year. You

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<v Speaker 2>look at all the metrics, all the numbers, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said this year to us in the preseason, got to

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<v Speaker 2>hit the layups, gotta hit the layups. Well, he hit

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<v Speaker 2>the layups yesterday. He's got three sacks. He is off

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<v Speaker 2>to a terrific start. He's got the capability and talent

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to be able to do it. So what the heck?

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I've been all in on Josh's entire career. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>all in right now. Defensive player of the Year, Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 3>How about that one thing about Josh too? What he

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<v Speaker 3>gives you that gets lost? And I get that it's

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<v Speaker 3>a sacks game even when he doesn't get sacks.

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<v Speaker 5>He's really good against the run and for an edge rusher.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of times you don't get that it's either

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<v Speaker 3>sacks or nothing. He's a force and a strength when

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<v Speaker 3>he's not quite hitting the layups. So I guess my

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 3>point is he never hurts you. True, it's just a

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 3>matter of how much he helps you. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>they have two outside backs like that the way I

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<v Speaker 3>think Trayvon's basically the same guy. Even if he's not

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<v Speaker 3>getting sacks. They're stout on the edges because of those guys,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's not nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>The play that your remember, yes, or actually is the

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<v Speaker 2>tackle for loss Yes when Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think arguably might have been his best. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it sacks in the game, but tackle for loss

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<v Speaker 1>was huge. You inspired me. You know, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna do for.

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<v Speaker 4>My hot takes.

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<v Speaker 1>He is inspirational, he is, so you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna double down. And I don't disagree with you about

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<v Speaker 1>Josh having a good year, but I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>benefit Trayvon. And I say that because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Josh having these numbers out of the gate and doing

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<v Speaker 1>what is best for the team, which is what Josh

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<v Speaker 1>will ultimately do will end up benefiting Trayon on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the ball because when people game plan

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>for Josh from Trayvon will get the remnants of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's gonna end up with more sacks

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<v Speaker 1>than we expect. I do expect that second year jump

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>from Trayon. I'm going all in and pushing the chips in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the hottest hot takes. I think Trayvon's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have more sex than Josh this year.

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, here's a deal too on that. I believe this

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 2>defense is better and Josh and Trayvon and those guys

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 2>are going to get more production because they'll play with

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<v Speaker 2>the lean more because of the offense being so good.

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>That's what gives me more faith in the Jaguars defense

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of folks out there. They didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>that yesterday but now.

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<v Speaker 1>And they still had the stats, which's impressed.

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>SAE will more throughout the seasonere you're gonna be up

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<v Speaker 2>two touchdowns or more of that late game scenario we

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<v Speaker 2>saw where you can go clean up some yanbe ones.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be huge. Also, it seemed to me the Colts,

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<v Speaker 3>even though they got four Richardson's not that easy to

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<v Speaker 3>sack because they, to me, clearly had a game plan

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<v Speaker 3>of getting the ball out of his hands and not

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>wanting him to take them. So it'll be interesting to

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 3>me to see how they do when they're a playing.

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 5>A less mobile quarterback where the teams.

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Are not so focused on let's not get this guy

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 3>in bad situation, ory're playing in a normal offense with

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 3>a lead. Then you might really see what this team

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 3>can do in terms of sacks.

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<v Speaker 2>A tough guy to sack comes into town this week

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>in Patrick Marley, Yes he does.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to see how things go with that. Stay

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<v Speaker 1>with us coming up after the can we go inside

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room? We hear it Don Peterson's postgame speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey you.

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<v Speaker 6>Hell yeah. One thing I know and I appreciate about

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<v Speaker 6>you guys. It's four quarters, man, it's four quarters, and

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<v Speaker 6>these games I don't care if they're division opponents or not.

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<v Speaker 7>You understand what we talk about.

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<v Speaker 6>You're learning and we learned last year, how to finish

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<v Speaker 6>and how to win games, how to go take games.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, to and that's it. That's crucial right there. That's big.

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<v Speaker 6>That's big moving forward.

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<v Speaker 5>That's an AFC South game.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a win on the road, which we haven't done

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<v Speaker 7>in a while here, which is congratulations.

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<v Speaker 6>And guys, it took all three phases, did it not?

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<v Speaker 5>Eggs.

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<v Speaker 6>We had a great kickoff return, You need to take aways,

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<v Speaker 6>a goal line stop, and then offensively, offensively, we just

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<v Speaker 6>figured it out. We just stayed with the plan and

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<v Speaker 6>we just figured it out and we got.

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<v Speaker 5>In the ends of TJ.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, if I'm round to events, let's go from here.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's learn from it. Okay, let's learn from it. Let's

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<v Speaker 7>clean it up. I know it's weak one, but let's

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<v Speaker 7>clean up the mistakes. Let's get ready for a tough,

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<v Speaker 7>physical home football game next weekend. But before that, let's celebrate. Hey,

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<v Speaker 7>we gotta get one before we break it down? Ready, one,

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<v Speaker 7>two three, bring.

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<v Speaker 5>It right ring up, right up?

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<v Speaker 7>Great job, fellas, wait to find a way wan to

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<v Speaker 7>know we're on to the next, On to the next,

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<v Speaker 7>guys on three, one, two three.

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<v Speaker 4>When is a win?

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<v Speaker 1>The teams want to know Doug said in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>there they figured it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't what they.

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<v Speaker 1>Planned for, but they finished strong, and you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way things get.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you, guys, bost looking forward to to see

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<v Speaker 4>out of them in week two? Is it consistency or

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Well, it's the Chiefs, I mean, it's it's there's

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<v Speaker 3>there's some benchmark games. You know, I'm not gonna pick

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<v Speaker 3>this because we have all week. I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 3>that I have it as nailed as I did last

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<v Speaker 3>week's Brent, but you got through the you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>I covered with the Colts, Peyton Manning used to talk

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<v Speaker 3>all the time that when he was a rookie, Jim Moore,

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<v Speaker 3>of the coach who'd been around forever, emphasized with him,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really hard to win in this league. Don't take

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<v Speaker 3>these for granted. I'll bet Doug's had some hong the

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<v Speaker 3>lines to a couple of players yesterday because it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to win. They won, they got through it, and now

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<v Speaker 3>you can sort of relaxed and play a game where

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<v Speaker 3>you measure yourself a little bit. But this team to

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<v Speaker 3>get to where it needs to go, they have to

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<v Speaker 3>win games this year consistently like the one they had yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>and then knock off a few of the elites, and

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<v Speaker 3>then that'll put him in a situation where they can

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<v Speaker 3>play for seeding at the end of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Any chance I get, I just continue to rave about

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<v Speaker 2>Doug Peterson. The job he's done second half of last

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<v Speaker 2>year into this year already, it's unbelievable and it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be dismissed and it should never be taken for granted

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<v Speaker 2>because it's unreal how quick he's flipped this franchise, the mentality,

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<v Speaker 2>the expectations, and it's happened in Jacksonville like it is

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<v Speaker 2>happening right in front of us, like everything you want

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, the growth of the quarterback, the franchise quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>this team believes they're good, and this place is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be rocking on Sunday, sold out crowd, everything. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who it's bigger for Doug, Trevor the fans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have a chance now to go to two

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<v Speaker 2>and zero. Case he would be going too, So all

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<v Speaker 2>those things that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>It actually got a two and a half game leader.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing champs. If you win this one, it's big

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<v Speaker 3>on that front, Dug. To your point, this feels Brent

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time since you and I have been

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<v Speaker 3>around it together for twelve years. It feels like an

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<v Speaker 3>established franchise. He to me is the biggest reason that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot easier to go with the flow when

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<v Speaker 1>you're happy with the captain of the ship, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in my experience. So dougle lead the way as we

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for Chiefs Week coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>We're happy we're one to zero going into week two.

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<v Speaker 4>See on Jags. I am here on Wednesday.