Speaker 1: Welcome in the Jags find a way to win in
Speaker 1: week one in Indie. You guys, what was the biggest
Speaker 1: play for you in yesterday's game?
Speaker 2: Jamal Agnew has to be the biggest play of the game, right,
Speaker 2: The big punt return could have been inside the ten
Speaker 2: and then it ends up positive territory, Jags turning too
Speaker 2: the go ahead that ship.
Speaker 3: Don't forget about the forgotten guy in this offense all
Speaker 3: off season, Zay Jones. An amazing catch, and if he
Speaker 3: doesn't make that catch all of a sudden, the score
Speaker 3: and the tone of that game is different for a
Speaker 3: couple of quarters.
Speaker 4: Welcome into Jags A.
Speaker 1: I'm our first victory Monday, Jags A, I'm Brind's out
Speaker 1: with us today. Brent Martineau stepping in. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1: John Oser here as always. I'm sure going to point
Speaker 1: out that he was correct about how.
Speaker 4: The game was going to play out. We'll let and
Speaker 4: get to that in a little bit. I know you're
Speaker 4: just chomping at the vit to tell us you were right.
Speaker 1: But we're presented by Carshield here today and we're in
Speaker 1: the Hundai studios.
Speaker 4: We're just this is good.
Speaker 1: I was excited to finally talk about some football, and
Speaker 1: I think we all predicted in Jags win. I don't
Speaker 1: think we predicted it in that manner, Brent. Are we
Speaker 1: surprised by how things played out?
Speaker 4: Or is it just a Week one thing.
Speaker 2: I do think Week one is weird, so you got
Speaker 2: to expect the unexpected. But I don't think any of
Speaker 2: us thought the Jaguars defense was going to steal the show.
Speaker 2: For the last eight months, nobody was talking about the
Speaker 2: Jags defense. All of a sudden, it stole the show.
Speaker 2: I thought the Jags defense would play better this season
Speaker 2: because they would be in the lead. Wasn't necessarily the case.
Speaker 2: They had to actually keep the Jags offense in the game.
Speaker 2: That's what was so different.
Speaker 3: Well, I read both of your previews for the file
Speaker 3: analysis that we do on Jaguars dot Com, and I
Speaker 3: kind of thought we all were in agreement that it
Speaker 3: would be a game where the fans were expecting this blowout.
Speaker 5: Wings You'd heard so much about.
Speaker 3: This team, and I think we all thought there'd be
Speaker 3: Week one, there'd be some Anthony richardson big plays, there'd
Speaker 3: be some weirdness. You don't get weirder than the Forrest Buckner,
Speaker 3: So I guess I wasn't surprised all the way it
Speaker 3: played out, and I'm getting a lot of angst in
Speaker 3: my inbox and people just you know, and.
Speaker 5: Where are we, Brent? When you score thirty one and.
Speaker 3: You're criticizing the play calling, you win by ten with
Speaker 3: a weird defensive touchdown on the other side, so maybe
Speaker 3: you should have won by seventeen, and.
Speaker 5: People are mad. It's a new area, Jaguar.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really think about the years, Brent, when
Speaker 3: it would have been cartwheels over that game.
Speaker 2: I'm guilty of it too, John, because that game did
Speaker 2: not feel rhythmic, great stuff we've seen in the preseason,
Speaker 2: and you look up at the end of the day
Speaker 2: they have thirty one points, like, okay, I'll stop.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: I think that's important though.
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that they can do that and
Speaker 3: not feel like they're in tune or in sync if
Speaker 3: you will, it does show you the expectations on this team,
Speaker 3: and I think it's important for a team not to
Speaker 3: be able to play well. And because they said it
Speaker 3: was sloppy and still put up thirty one and still
Speaker 3: feel it never got a hand and they pulled away
Speaker 3: at the end. So that was I said to somebody
Speaker 3: last year after the Washington game, you.
Speaker 5: Know, there was a good NFL loss.
Speaker 3: We had so many bad losses here in the past,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, after that Washington game, you
Speaker 3: felt like they were gonna be okay. They were planned. Well, yes,
Speaker 3: it was a good NFL win. Yeah it was, yeah,
Speaker 3: because you.
Speaker 5: Could have lost it.
Speaker 3: Polar opposites those two openers, and I think it shows
Speaker 3: you how far they've come.
Speaker 2: I don't feel I don't know if Kai knows this
Speaker 2: because I said it to were on Jaguars All Access.
Speaker 2: She's coming in at a good time. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson realizes this. This is not a game the
Speaker 2: Jags win over the last fifteen years. They do not
Speaker 2: make plays in the fourth quarter to win. We are
Speaker 2: still getting used to that around here.
Speaker 1: Let's go over some of the big things, because we
Speaker 1: touched on them a little bit. But big thing number
Speaker 1: one is good teams find a way because they do.
Speaker 1: As we've mentioned here, good teams find a way to win.
Speaker 1: And you said this before. The Jags haven't found a
Speaker 1: way to win in the past, but now they're a
Speaker 1: good team and they found that way. I think at
Speaker 1: one point they went forward on fourth down. John, we
Speaker 1: were discussing it in the press box. You're like, maybe
Speaker 1: take the points, maybe don't go for it. And Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson he's all about it. He's got that I don't know,
Speaker 1: he's got that gut, he's ready to go. He'll stomach
Speaker 1: whatever that ending of that play was going to be,
Speaker 1: but end up working out. So he looks very, very smart.
Speaker 1: But they found a way to win. You have to
Speaker 1: rely on that and feel a little bit good about
Speaker 1: how things ended up.
Speaker 5: John, Yeah, I think you feel like good.
Speaker 3: The sequence we were talking about was when the Jags
Speaker 3: had the ball down twenty one seventeen and it was
Speaker 3: fourth down within field goal range at that time, A
Speaker 3: conventional wisdom old days, which Doug Peterson is not a
Speaker 3: conventional wisdom old days coach, I would have kicked a
Speaker 3: field goal gotten within one with the idea that at
Speaker 3: that point the Colts, after their touchdown to Michael Pittman,
Speaker 3: had twenty seven yards until that final drive when it
Speaker 3: was sort of mop up top.
Speaker 5: The defense was stopping him and Anthony Richardson was not
Speaker 5: going to move them, so.
Speaker 3: I thought kick the field goal. Stop him, get another
Speaker 3: field goal and you probably win the game. Doesn't think
Speaker 3: that way, as I told kaya said, that's why he
Speaker 3: lives where he lives, and I live in Springfield.
Speaker 1: They fat him the big bucks for that, for sure.
Speaker 1: Our big thing. Number two, we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: the defense. He touched on that a little bit. They
Speaker 1: kind of same today. We've been giving them. You know
Speaker 1: a lot of people been complaining about the past rush.
Speaker 1: How are they going to get to it? Josh Allen said,
Speaker 1: I got this myself. He had three tackles for lost
Speaker 1: three sacks when they have seven sacks all of last year.
Speaker 1: So he's clearly above pace already. After game one, right,
Speaker 1: he looked like a man on fire out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the monster. The play he's not even get
Speaker 2: a lot of credit or enough credit. I already seen
Speaker 2: people say, well he ran it Richardson out of bounds.
Speaker 2: It's like he ran Richardson out of boonds. Go back
Speaker 2: and look at that play, and I'm telling you, guys
Speaker 2: that are elite in this league don't make that play.
Speaker 2: And he made some others too. He was terrific. But John,
Speaker 2: I think we've got to give credit to the secondary
Speaker 2: here because some of those sacks were coverage sacks. Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson didn't like what he saw. I had to escape
Speaker 2: the pocket or stay in the pocket. I think the
Speaker 2: unsung hero of this game is really the secondary of
Speaker 2: the Jaguars, not that they're electric on the outside. They
Speaker 2: did their job, they did it well. They allowed the
Speaker 2: Jags to eat up front a little bit when they
Speaker 2: had to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought there were some coverage rookie quarterback sacks.
Speaker 3: At the same time. They had four against somebody who's
Speaker 3: not as unbelievably strong as this kid. They probably have
Speaker 3: seven because they were on them a lot. So however,
Speaker 3: those numbers work out. You take sacks where you can
Speaker 3: get them through the year because you missed so many
Speaker 3: that are so close. They'll take the four they got yesterday.
Speaker 3: An impressive defensive effort. I thought, if you focused on
Speaker 3: one thing, they stopped him four or five times on
Speaker 3: fourth down against the old school, conservative old man and
Speaker 3: me Brent. This has become a fourth down league, especially
Speaker 3: with coaches you know, Peterson and Psyching psychings out of
Speaker 3: that Philadelphia school that goes forward a lot stop on
Speaker 3: fourth down in some games.
Speaker 5: It's become the new third.
Speaker 2: Down Money's down money downs were bad for both teams.
Speaker 2: By the way seven thirty.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a good look. It wasn't a good look.
Speaker 1: Our last big thing off the top is going to
Speaker 1: be O line because going into Renny Camp, we thought
Speaker 1: the offensive line was gonna be a strong suit, maybe
Speaker 1: the deepest section of this team. But it looked tough
Speaker 1: at times yesterday and Brendan Sheriff also had an injury. John,
Speaker 1: what's going on with the O line? Is this something
Speaker 1: they can figure out? Is this an off thing? Is
Speaker 1: this a game one thing?
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think thing to remember offensive line can be tough
Speaker 3: in the opener because just like with other parts of
Speaker 3: the of the coaching staff, defenses scheme all season for
Speaker 3: like this one game, and they do things you don't expect.
Speaker 3: The other thing to remember is, as Trevor Lawrence said
Speaker 3: after the game, the interior of the Colts defense is
Speaker 3: their strength. It's one of the best in the league,
Speaker 3: and I think we sort of overlooked. I even said
Speaker 3: it last week. Well to Forest Bugn, you should be
Speaker 3: able to stop at defensive tackle. Yeah, well, he's an
Speaker 3: All Pro defensive tackle and he's really good and that's
Speaker 3: the strength and Gus is a good, experienced defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5: They're a defense that's still believed.
Speaker 3: You know, Week one is so tough, I've always thought
Speaker 3: because nobody believes they're bad, yet nobody has any negatives
Speaker 3: to believe, well, we're not gonna be good this year.
Speaker 3: By week eight or nine, teams sort of know what
Speaker 3: they are, so they know they're not gonna win certain games.
Speaker 3: The Colts weren't feeling that, so they thought they were
Speaker 3: gonna win the game. I'm not overly worried about the
Speaker 3: offensive line because I believe Phil rash is gonna figure
Speaker 3: this out. I believe they were okay last year. I
Speaker 3: think he's gonna be fine going forward. But I'm sort
Speaker 3: of in the minority. Everybody's concerned about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'll tell you why I'm mostly concerned
Speaker 2: about in in a second. But I think also, the
Speaker 2: Colts don't always come across as his physical team. We've
Speaker 2: covered them for a long time around here. The Titans,
Speaker 2: different story. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, those are the teams you think
Speaker 2: physical Jacks got whooped up front. I mean that defensive
Speaker 2: front really did a number on the Jags even on
Speaker 2: the good place, Trevor's running for his life a little
Speaker 2: bit and making something happen with his legs. Here's where
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about the offensive line. They are banged up
Speaker 2: quietly right Walker Little didn't play that last preseason game
Speaker 2: against Miami. He was nursing the slight growing thing. He
Speaker 2: had a tough couple of series at one time in
Speaker 2: this football game. You look at a guy like Harrison
Speaker 2: who also had some tough moments shoulder right. Sheriff now
Speaker 2: with the injury, so they're not mate well, Sheriff could
Speaker 2: be a little more than sure minor, but they're battling
Speaker 2: some things. One caveat hit me last night at like
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock, which means I think too much about the
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars. Remember last year it's Washington and the opener.
Speaker 2: They were terrible in the opener, the offensive line. I
Speaker 2: think there were forty drop back passes in that game,
Speaker 2: and Trevor got hard red twenty times, so fifty. They
Speaker 2: did not play well. They went not to play very well.
Speaker 2: So Rauscher, to your point, and company got better as
Speaker 2: a season one.
Speaker 3: Awe, they also did okay, And I don't want a
Speaker 3: great on a curve, but they did ok in spots,
Speaker 3: good protection, the A Jones touchdown, and don't forget it's
Speaker 3: hard to run in this league. They stuck with it
Speaker 3: and by the fourth quarter when they needed it, it
Speaker 3: was there. And you know one thing we haven't talked
Speaker 3: about yet. I overlooked him because I was on the
Speaker 3: bigsby traying all all pre seasons good and that last run.
Speaker 5: You know, I had some fans, well, he didn't run
Speaker 5: the ball.
Speaker 3: If you watched that last run, Travis Etn had a
Speaker 3: nice run on that and he we had talked about
Speaker 3: him as a dark horse for MVP outside of Trevor.
Speaker 5: That's not nothing. He's he's he's got it.
Speaker 2: This year he had like over one hundred yards of
Speaker 2: total offense, which it didn't feel like. I did not
Speaker 2: overlook him. I loved the guy and I think he's
Speaker 2: one of the most underrated players in the National Football
Speaker 2: League coming off of last year. Simply put, I mean,
Speaker 2: he's a weapon they got to utilize the more I
Speaker 2: thought they should have screen gained them a little bit more.
Speaker 3: In fact, yesterday, and it's odd to think about Travis
Speaker 3: having one hundred quiet yards. I was stunned when I
Speaker 3: looked at it and he had over one hundred totally yards.
Speaker 5: But he got it in workmanlike fashion.
Speaker 3: If he's getting yards in workman like fashion, he's gonna
Speaker 3: have a monster year because the huge plays are gonna
Speaker 3: come for.
Speaker 1: Him, absolutely, as we saw at the end of the
Speaker 1: game yesterday. All Right, coming up, we're gonna go over
Speaker 1: all the highlights from yesterday's game, including one of the weirdest.
Speaker 4: Plays I've seen in professional football. So we'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: All right, we're back here on Jags Am victory Monday.
Speaker 1: Good times for us. We're gonna go over some of
Speaker 1: the highlights because it was a weird one and if
Speaker 1: a lot of emotions, ups and downs for sure, But
Speaker 1: starting out early, we saw exactly what we wanted to
Speaker 1: see between Trevor Lawrence and Calvin Ridley because Calvin Ridley's
Speaker 1: just doing Calvin Ridley things. Because he of course had
Speaker 1: to find Calvin Ridley in the back of the end
Speaker 1: zone for the first touchdown of the game and the
Speaker 1: first shutdown for Ridley in a while Bright where you
Speaker 1: surprised that they had that connection right off the bat.
Speaker 2: Not really we talked about all week. I thought they'd
Speaker 2: actually kill the out route much more, but gust and
Speaker 2: the defense kind of took that away. This is a
Speaker 2: tremendous play, but again, he has to run away from pressure,
Speaker 2: and if you watch the end zone angle of this,
Speaker 2: it looks like you almost throws a no look past
Speaker 2: the Riddley because Brenton Strange is wide open. So then
Speaker 2: the defender jump ends up over there jumping the Brenton
Speaker 2: Strange part of this.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's be fair. He ran away from pressure, but
Speaker 5: he'd already been in the pocket like four seconds at
Speaker 5: that point.
Speaker 3: So I know you're banging the offensive line this week,
Speaker 3: but I thought the offensive line was fine on that.
Speaker 3: What happens, he was looking for Ingram and they had
Speaker 3: it covered. Tram made a great play getting back around,
Speaker 3: was never really pressured on the play. Here's what's striking
Speaker 3: one hundred yards in a touchdown for Ridley and you
Speaker 3: sort of felt after the game why he could add
Speaker 3: a lot more.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Sure, there you know, and I'm getting emails. Why did
Speaker 3: they use Christian, Well, you can't use everybody. This offense
Speaker 3: I think had three hundred and twenty yesterday. There are
Speaker 3: gonna be weeks where this thing gets going. You saw
Speaker 3: flashes of it, and it's going to be a share
Speaker 3: of the wealth.
Speaker 1: And we talked about people that were going to benefit from,
Speaker 1: you know, that coverage on Ridley's a Jones. He had
Speaker 1: a day yesterday and one of the prettiest catches I've
Speaker 1: seen in quite some time in that back of the
Speaker 1: end zone, going down and getting that with one hand.
Speaker 1: I know you talked to say on the ozone podcast, John,
Speaker 1: and he's excited.
Speaker 4: For the role he plays. Whatever role that's going to be.
Speaker 3: Well, and he's good in that role because he's really dangerous.
Speaker 3: If if you double Ridley or if you take other
Speaker 3: things away, he can sure beat single coverage whenever he
Speaker 3: has it. I thought this play, you know, don't discount
Speaker 3: a couple of throws that Trevor Lawrence made yesterday, this one,
Speaker 3: the one down the sidelines to Ingram quietly. Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 3: his talent in this game and his status I think
Speaker 3: is a top ten quarterback now. And rising was a
Speaker 3: big difference between two quarterbacks who Richardson couldn't make those throws.
Speaker 5: In the NFL, those things matter.
Speaker 2: Kyle also think that shows a lot of trust too,
Speaker 2: because that play showed trust to get it to Zay
Speaker 2: Jones early before the Ridley touchdowns, a twenty four yard
Speaker 2: play kind of just throws up to him and says, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go get We make a play.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's a good throw and everything, but its reminiscent of
Speaker 2: that Miami game where he threw the one down the
Speaker 2: sideline to him. He's starting to trust these guys and
Speaker 2: really he trusts himself.
Speaker 3: You can't win if you don't have that in the
Speaker 3: NFL between quarterback and receiver.
Speaker 5: It's a good sign. There were three or four plays
Speaker 5: like that yesterday.
Speaker 1: Let's go to one of the weirdest things I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in professional football, because why not to for s Buckner,
Speaker 1: who we did talk about but clearly did not give
Speaker 1: enough credit to that. So obviously they called it a bumble.
Speaker 1: You know, you could think at first maybe it was
Speaker 1: an incomplete pass, but everybody stopped. And I think one
Speaker 1: of the first things Doug said after game was we
Speaker 1: talked about this every single Thursday you played in the
Speaker 1: West All you just always play until things are dead dead,
Speaker 1: the play is over, and they did it. And unfortunately
Speaker 1: that's just a little bit of a mental mistake there, Brent.
Speaker 1: Do you play make much of it or do you
Speaker 1: think it's just a hey, one off, We're not going
Speaker 1: to see that again. Maybe there was two Brookies on
Speaker 1: that side involved in it and it just wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: they just didn't fall through on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you see this from time to time
Speaker 2: in the league where it's just one of these wacky plays.
Speaker 2: I think it's a nothing play at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, One because you want and overcame it, and
Speaker 2: two because I don't think we're going to see it again.
Speaker 2: So I'm not really sure, Like, yeah, it's a learning
Speaker 2: point if your coach all that stuff played through the whistle,
Speaker 2: I actually think it mightn't be a play at the
Speaker 2: NFL wants to look at the play's done. He's given
Speaker 2: himself up and it should the play still be active.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how you officiate that if not.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to play to the end of
Speaker 2: the whistle all that stuff, but everyone on the field
Speaker 2: it wasn't just Tank bigs people. Most everybody on the field,
Speaker 2: even DeForrest Bucker, thought it was incomplete right alert give.
Speaker 3: I'm drawing a blank in the linebacker's name who forced
Speaker 3: it out played really well yesterday. If that ball, you know,
Speaker 3: everybody's killing Tank Bigsby because he had.
Speaker 5: The drop in the first half. There was a tough
Speaker 5: you know, and he had this one.
Speaker 3: My guess is if that ball had bounced to ten
Speaker 3: other Jaguars, probably eight of them do this same thing.
Speaker 3: It looked like Evan knew what was going on because
Speaker 3: he was still trying to follow the ball most colts did.
Speaker 3: It flashed in my mind that they might stop it
Speaker 3: for giving himself up. I think had he been on
Speaker 3: the ground, that might have had a little bit more
Speaker 3: Looking back at the play, I watched it again last night.
Speaker 3: I don't know how else the officials could have correctly
Speaker 3: officiated it under how it is now, because since he
Speaker 3: wasn't on the ground, he wasn't as much giving himself up.
Speaker 3: But again, you watch this game for thirty years, you
Speaker 3: think you've seen everything, and invariably, once a week you
Speaker 3: see something where you think, oh.
Speaker 5: That's why officiating is hard.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, this was Miles Jack's fault.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well.
Speaker 4: You want it.
Speaker 5: It's very true, very true.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move things forward because this is a
Speaker 1: turning point, just this drive as a whole. It started
Speaker 1: with Agnew's return, right, he hadn't been getting a ton
Speaker 1: We obviously know he's capable, but he chose to run
Speaker 1: this one back goes across the field. It's a Huger
Speaker 1: turnout of it. And I really felt the momentum change
Speaker 1: because before that you were kind of like, what are
Speaker 1: we doing? Like it didn't feel great, and then this
Speaker 1: huge momentum turner. Down on fourth down, they go to
Speaker 1: Za Jones to get the first down, and then these
Speaker 1: two back to back plays from Tank Bigsby, who they
Speaker 1: did not shy away from. I mean maybe he mad
Speaker 1: had some rookie moments, but they went to him after
Speaker 1: that and they pushed him down to the one yard
Speaker 1: line and then Trevor follows him in for the score
Speaker 1: right after this, and just showing that trust brand in
Speaker 1: a rookies where you know, maybe they're not doing everything
Speaker 1: you want, but if you're gonna play a rookie, you
Speaker 1: gotta let him have those moments.
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't know if they win the game, if
Speaker 2: they have to start in the ball at the five
Speaker 2: or seven or ten yard line. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: think they do the way the offense was fut or
Speaker 2: not going ninety yards in that football game. I also
Speaker 2: think the play, well, fourth and two is going to
Speaker 2: be the most underrated to play the game because it's
Speaker 2: a nice job by Trevor to find Jay and obviously
Speaker 2: the call to go for it. But this is the
Speaker 2: play because the offensive line wasn't great yesterday, Tank Bigsby
Speaker 2: wasn't great yesterday, but in this moment, they all were awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I give Brenton Strange from credit here too,
Speaker 3: basically got it. He gets his hands around Bigsby's waist,
Speaker 3: said okay, we're going in. Yeah, and as strange as
Speaker 3: a rookie too. Again this drive, that's Zay Jones play.
Speaker 3: I'm fifty seven, Brent, so I'm probably not going to
Speaker 3: change my old man ways.
Speaker 5: That is not a play that you was yesterday.
Speaker 3: Eight first down attemp I mean eight first down attempts
Speaker 3: on fourth down. Yeah, it got routine there for a minute,
Speaker 3: So it's routine to go for that.
Speaker 4: You go.
Speaker 5: That's high risk.
Speaker 3: A lot of old coaches are rolling in their grave saying,
Speaker 3: how in the world don't you kick a field goal there?
Speaker 3: You've got Richardson on his heels. You probably kick and
Speaker 3: get it back at your own forty You trust your kicker.
Speaker 5: Not today.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was confidence in the offense
Speaker 2: or lack of confidence.
Speaker 4: In the reverse. It was like, we don't know if
Speaker 4: we're going to get another chance. We got to go
Speaker 4: or chance?
Speaker 2: Is that good?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Because when you get a turnover or which essentially was
Speaker 2: like a turnover from Agnew, you want to take advantage
Speaker 2: of it and make sure you get something out of
Speaker 2: it so you can easily see kicking.
Speaker 3: That's the way do Peterson believes, no doubt he is
Speaker 3: going to go for it on the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, we don't mind. And nobody in Jacksonville mindset
Speaker 2: anymore because they're confident in it too. And like I
Speaker 2: was alright with the fourth and two because I was
Speaker 2: pretty confident they can get two yards all the time,
Speaker 2: even though it wasn't easy.
Speaker 5: Yesterday.
Speaker 3: Now I confess that I turned to Cassi, this is
Speaker 3: the wrong move. But again, unfortunately they have me far
Speaker 3: far away from.
Speaker 4: All right, let's get over bred.
Speaker 1: I know you talked a little bit about the secondary
Speaker 1: and what they were able to do. We saw Cisco
Speaker 1: force a fumble and then also Tyson Campbell's interception. We
Speaker 1: think he's going to have a big year and I
Speaker 1: know some sports down anyway, right so it because it
Speaker 1: wouldn't have mattered. But this interception here from him and
Speaker 1: what we were able to see the defense as a whole,
Speaker 1: they really kind of save the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought secondary was terrific. Again, this is not
Speaker 2: the most explosive offense in the NFL, especially on the outside,
Speaker 2: but they did their job. This was a huge play. Again,
Speaker 2: this is what you do when you win in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. You put the game away with a play
Speaker 2: like this. Tyson said he tried to bait them a
Speaker 2: little bit and good ball skills. John. This is one
Speaker 2: of my favorite guys that I've covered in fifteen years
Speaker 2: here in Jacksonville. Really good game, because though you could
Speaker 2: see the maturation of them, the first half of his
Speaker 2: rookie season wasn't pretty. Heck, the first half of last year,
Speaker 2: everybody's wondering if he's gonna get his head turned around
Speaker 2: on ball so he can make interceptions. Nobody's asking that anymore.
Speaker 2: And I haven't looked this up yet, but if you
Speaker 2: go back probably to the last i'd say eight games
Speaker 2: of last year and now this one, you're starting to
Speaker 2: see Tyson Campbell make big plays, get his hands on
Speaker 2: the football, forced fumbles, pick up fumbles, get interceptions. This
Speaker 2: kid's a good player.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: This is what you have to do when you're playing
Speaker 3: a young quarterback. And it was second and ten.
Speaker 5: All game.
Speaker 3: It looked to me like the Colts smartly kept Richardson
Speaker 3: in situations where he was over his feet. I like
Speaker 3: to say, didn't have to do things he didn't want
Speaker 3: to do. Of a sudden, for the first time you're down,
Speaker 3: you're down by what.
Speaker 5: Was it four or three?
Speaker 3: Well, now, all of a sudden, it's not as applicable
Speaker 3: to take the short pass. He goes downfield into a
Speaker 3: defense that he doesn't want to throw into, and finally
Speaker 3: they get the pick off of him and turn the game.
Speaker 3: That's what the reason you think you're gonna beat rookie
Speaker 3: quarterbacks is because it plays like that, and the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Got it, and you have to take advantage when given
Speaker 1: that opportunity.
Speaker 4: And it absolutely did.
Speaker 5: And a big time played by Tyson.
Speaker 3: Mean, oh, for sure, he has turned himself in in
Speaker 3: his third year. He's now a veteran corner and one
Speaker 3: of the core guys on this franchise.
Speaker 1: We're gonna end things with that clincher for us. Etn,
Speaker 1: who we just talked about, had that quite a great day.
Speaker 1: This last play was not quiet from him to bounce
Speaker 1: on the outside and just find open space.
Speaker 4: John, did we think he could do this?
Speaker 1: I know we've been talking about Tank a little bit,
Speaker 1: and we did talk about Etn, but just what he's
Speaker 1: been able to do this season so far and even
Speaker 1: in preseason like the Flashes.
Speaker 3: Well, this was impressive because remember last year I must
Speaker 3: have asked him to or three different times during the
Speaker 3: season in locker room he would get so close to
Speaker 3: taking to the house, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 3: he goes the whole game where he didn't, and then
Speaker 3: when the opportunity is there, calmly finds the whole and
Speaker 3: then accelerates right there. I mean, I thought this because
Speaker 3: you felt like it was about to be over anyway,
Speaker 3: Brings they were gonna kick a field goal.
Speaker 5: Maybe this play gets lost a little bit.
Speaker 3: I thought that was an impressive run. It's the kind
Speaker 3: of run that gets backs to the numbers they want,
Speaker 3: because all of a sudden, you've had a game where
Speaker 3: he had what fifty, and he has one twenty six
Speaker 3: yard run and at seventy and now you're on pace
Speaker 3: to do what you want to do. Those are important
Speaker 3: to those guys, not that day, but on Tuesday instead
Speaker 3: of look at their numbers. Yeah, those matters.
Speaker 5: So now he's got seventy and a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Again, I overlooked it a little bit because I like
Speaker 3: the way that Bagsby was playing so much in the preseason.
Speaker 3: You didn't see Travis a whole lot. Uh bad on
Speaker 3: me for forgetting how good this kid is.
Speaker 2: Nobody's coming out of this game thinking, wow, Jags, they're
Speaker 2: running attack is unbelievable. But to the biggest place it's
Speaker 2: gonna be, to the biggest plays in the game where
Speaker 2: the runs again Bigsby down to the one yard line
Speaker 2: and then Etn finishing it off. And listen, he's got special,
Speaker 2: special talent and he also knows how to take it.
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna give him enough credit for how tough is
Speaker 2: a tough dude he keeps getting hit hard.
Speaker 3: The biggest it's the biggest surprise about him that I
Speaker 3: didn't know come out of college last year was a
Speaker 3: rookie seven eight different times. This kid runs hard. Credit
Speaker 3: to Doug and and Press.
Speaker 5: Everybody.
Speaker 3: Everybody in the league knows that you have to stick
Speaker 3: with the run to make it work. Sometimes guys go
Speaker 3: away from it. I was getting emails from fans all
Speaker 3: day saying, what.
Speaker 5: Are they doing? Guts.
Speaker 3: If you don't keep doing it, you don't get plays
Speaker 3: like they did at the end. It takes veteran patience
Speaker 3: and maturities at play caller to stick with it when
Speaker 3: it's not worth.
Speaker 2: Let me add one thing there, And you were gonna said,
Speaker 2: because I'm picking on the offensive line, I think they
Speaker 2: had to stay with the run to keep them honest
Speaker 2: a little bit, because they were getting beat up front
Speaker 2: of times.
Speaker 5: I do not want to be in the locker room
Speaker 5: when you walk in with the offensive linemen this season.
Speaker 4: Those are big men. They are not gonna We've got.
Speaker 5: To be old negative, Brent.
Speaker 4: How dare you all right coming back?
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Speaker 1: we're doing hot takes here. We're gonna start off with John.
Speaker 1: We're going mild to hot around this around this couch here.
Speaker 4: So John, you go first. What was your hot take today?
Speaker 5: Hooray for me, you know, and.
Speaker 4: You know, some people like mild wings. That's just the
Speaker 4: way it works.
Speaker 5: It's okay to.
Speaker 3: Went that way in week one, and I you know,
Speaker 3: beyond that, I know we've talked about a lot. I
Speaker 3: actually thought they did a nice job of managing their situations,
Speaker 3: considering there was some sloppiness.
Speaker 5: I didn't feel like they panicked.
Speaker 3: They did a nice job in the first half of
Speaker 3: when they had to grind it out. They grinded it
Speaker 3: out and had a fourteen to seven lead and were
Speaker 3: a smidge away from having that thing being a ten
Speaker 3: point game at half, which I think would have changed
Speaker 3: the dynamic in the second half, so I thought they
Speaker 3: managed that well.
Speaker 5: And then to stay calm in the fourth quarter when.
Speaker 3: You're frustrated already because you're playing this Guest Bradley defense
Speaker 3: that really doesn't let you take the shots and get it.
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, with the offense almost flucially,
Speaker 3: now you're down by four and you could have easily
Speaker 3: gotten frustrated. Let it get out of hand, and they
Speaker 3: come back in the fourth quarter and do it everybody
Speaker 3: thought they would do all along, and the game. It's
Speaker 3: been a theme all day for me. I think I
Speaker 3: think it was. It was a professional win. It got
Speaker 3: him and guess what we're complaining about a team.
Speaker 5: It's all in first place.
Speaker 4: I love it. Win's a win. I'm fine with the ten.
Speaker 4: All right, Brent, what.
Speaker 1: Do you got, by the way, Defensive Player of the Year, Josh.
Speaker 4: Allen, Right, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Why not? Remember kalay Is Campbell in twenty seventeen and
Speaker 2: four and a half sacks against Houston to start the
Speaker 2: year as a monster game. He ended up being in
Speaker 2: the Defensive Player of the Year running the entire way.
Speaker 2: It was debatable he didn't end up winning it. Josh
Speaker 2: Is on a mission Josh had three sacks, three tackle
Speaker 2: for loss. It was ten tackles. He has a chance now,
Speaker 2: because of a start like that, to really stack up numbers.
Speaker 4: T J.
Speaker 2: Watt also had a hat trick. Obviously, he's a perennial
Speaker 2: part of this conversation. The one thing about Josh Allen
Speaker 2: now is can he be consistent? Because that's the thing.
Speaker 2: He's had monster games for Buffalo a couple of years
Speaker 2: back and then it fell off the table. Can he
Speaker 2: be consistent? But this has been brewing last year. You
Speaker 2: look at all the metrics, all the numbers, and he
Speaker 2: said this year to us in the preseason, got to
Speaker 2: hit the layups, gotta hit the layups. Well, he hit
Speaker 2: the layups yesterday. He's got three sacks. He is off
Speaker 2: to a terrific start. He's got the capability and talent
Speaker 2: to be able to do it. So what the heck?
Speaker 2: I've been all in on Josh's entire career. I'm going
Speaker 2: all in right now. Defensive player of the Year, Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: How about that one thing about Josh too? What he
Speaker 3: gives you that gets lost? And I get that it's
Speaker 3: a sacks game even when he doesn't get sacks.
Speaker 5: He's really good against the run and for an edge rusher.
Speaker 3: A lot of times you don't get that it's either
Speaker 3: sacks or nothing. He's a force and a strength when
Speaker 3: he's not quite hitting the layups. So I guess my
Speaker 3: point is he never hurts you. True, it's just a
Speaker 3: matter of how much he helps you. And I think
Speaker 3: they have two outside backs like that the way I
Speaker 3: think Trayvon's basically the same guy. Even if he's not
Speaker 3: getting sacks. They're stout on the edges because of those guys,
Speaker 3: and that's not nothing.
Speaker 2: The play that your remember, yes, or actually is the
Speaker 2: tackle for loss Yes when Josh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think arguably might have been his best. I
Speaker 1: know it sacks in the game, but tackle for loss
Speaker 1: was huge. You inspired me. You know, I didn't know
Speaker 1: what I was gonna do for.
Speaker 4: My hot takes.
Speaker 1: He is inspirational, he is, so you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna double down. And I don't disagree with you about
Speaker 1: Josh having a good year, but I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: benefit Trayvon. And I say that because I feel like
Speaker 1: Josh having these numbers out of the gate and doing
Speaker 1: what is best for the team, which is what Josh
Speaker 1: will ultimately do will end up benefiting Trayon on the
Speaker 1: other side of the ball because when people game plan
Speaker 1: for Josh from Trayvon will get the remnants of that,
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna end up with more sacks
Speaker 1: than we expect. I do expect that second year jump
Speaker 1: from Trayon. I'm going all in and pushing the chips in.
Speaker 1: This is the hottest hot takes. I think Trayvon's gonna
Speaker 1: have more sex than Josh this year.
Speaker 2: Well, here's a deal too on that. I believe this
Speaker 2: defense is better and Josh and Trayvon and those guys
Speaker 2: are going to get more production because they'll play with
Speaker 2: the lean more because of the offense being so good.
Speaker 2: That's what gives me more faith in the Jaguars defense
Speaker 2: and a lot of folks out there. They didn't do
Speaker 2: that yesterday but now.
Speaker 1: And they still had the stats, which's impressed.
Speaker 2: SAE will more throughout the seasonere you're gonna be up
Speaker 2: two touchdowns or more of that late game scenario we
Speaker 2: saw where you can go clean up some yanbe ones.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be huge. Also, it seemed to me the Colts,
Speaker 3: even though they got four Richardson's not that easy to
Speaker 3: sack because they, to me, clearly had a game plan
Speaker 3: of getting the ball out of his hands and not
Speaker 3: wanting him to take them. So it'll be interesting to
Speaker 3: me to see how they do when they're a playing.
Speaker 5: A less mobile quarterback where the teams.
Speaker 3: Are not so focused on let's not get this guy
Speaker 3: in bad situation, ory're playing in a normal offense with
Speaker 3: a lead. Then you might really see what this team
Speaker 3: can do in terms of sacks.
Speaker 2: A tough guy to sack comes into town this week
Speaker 2: in Patrick Marley, Yes he does.
Speaker 1: We'll have to see how things go with that. Stay
Speaker 1: with us coming up after the can we go inside
Speaker 1: the locker room? We hear it Don Peterson's postgame speech.
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Speaker 2: Hey you.
Speaker 6: Hell yeah. One thing I know and I appreciate about
Speaker 6: you guys. It's four quarters, man, it's four quarters, and
Speaker 6: these games I don't care if they're division opponents or not.
Speaker 7: You understand what we talk about.
Speaker 6: You're learning and we learned last year, how to finish
Speaker 6: and how to win games, how to go take games.
Speaker 5: Okay, to and that's it. That's crucial right there. That's big.
Speaker 6: That's big moving forward.
Speaker 5: That's an AFC South game.
Speaker 7: That's a win on the road, which we haven't done
Speaker 7: in a while here, which is congratulations.
Speaker 6: And guys, it took all three phases, did it not?
Speaker 5: Eggs.
Speaker 6: We had a great kickoff return, You need to take aways,
Speaker 6: a goal line stop, and then offensively, offensively, we just
Speaker 6: figured it out. We just stayed with the plan and
Speaker 6: we just figured it out and we got.
Speaker 5: In the ends of TJ.
Speaker 6: Now, if I'm round to events, let's go from here.
Speaker 7: Let's learn from it. Okay, let's learn from it. Let's
Speaker 7: clean it up. I know it's weak one, but let's
Speaker 7: clean up the mistakes. Let's get ready for a tough,
Speaker 7: physical home football game next weekend. But before that, let's celebrate. Hey,
Speaker 7: we gotta get one before we break it down? Ready, one,
Speaker 7: two three, bring.
Speaker 5: It right ring up, right up?
Speaker 7: Great job, fellas, wait to find a way wan to
Speaker 7: know we're on to the next, On to the next,
Speaker 7: guys on three, one, two three.
Speaker 4: When is a win?
Speaker 1: The teams want to know Doug said in the middle
Speaker 1: there they figured it out.
Speaker 4: Wasn't what they.
Speaker 1: Planned for, but they finished strong, and you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: that's the way things get.
Speaker 4: What are you, guys, bost looking forward to to see
Speaker 4: out of them in week two? Is it consistency or
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of Well, it's the Chiefs, I mean, it's it's there's
Speaker 3: there's some benchmark games. You know, I'm not gonna pick
Speaker 3: this because we have all week. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 3: that I have it as nailed as I did last
Speaker 3: week's Brent, but you got through the you know, when
Speaker 3: I covered with the Colts, Peyton Manning used to talk
Speaker 3: all the time that when he was a rookie, Jim Moore,
Speaker 3: of the coach who'd been around forever, emphasized with him,
Speaker 3: it's really hard to win in this league. Don't take
Speaker 3: these for granted. I'll bet Doug's had some hong the
Speaker 3: lines to a couple of players yesterday because it's hard
Speaker 3: to win. They won, they got through it, and now
Speaker 3: you can sort of relaxed and play a game where
Speaker 3: you measure yourself a little bit. But this team to
Speaker 3: get to where it needs to go, they have to
Speaker 3: win games this year consistently like the one they had yesterday,
Speaker 3: and then knock off a few of the elites, and
Speaker 3: then that'll put him in a situation where they can
Speaker 3: play for seeding at the end of the season.
Speaker 2: Any chance I get, I just continue to rave about
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson. The job he's done second half of last
Speaker 2: year into this year already, it's unbelievable and it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be dismissed and it should never be taken for granted
Speaker 2: because it's unreal how quick he's flipped this franchise, the mentality,
Speaker 2: the expectations, and it's happened in Jacksonville like it is
Speaker 2: happening right in front of us, like everything you want
Speaker 2: to happen, the growth of the quarterback, the franchise quarterback,
Speaker 2: this team believes they're good, and this place is going
Speaker 2: to be rocking on Sunday, sold out crowd, everything. I
Speaker 2: don't know who it's bigger for Doug, Trevor the fans. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you have a chance now to go to two
Speaker 2: and zero. Case he would be going too, So all
Speaker 2: those things that you're talking about.
Speaker 3: It actually got a two and a half game leader.
Speaker 3: The thing champs. If you win this one, it's big
Speaker 3: on that front, Dug. To your point, this feels Brent
Speaker 3: for the first time since you and I have been
Speaker 3: around it together for twelve years. It feels like an
Speaker 3: established franchise. He to me is the biggest reason that's true.
Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to go with the flow when
Speaker 1: you're happy with the captain of the ship, at least
Speaker 1: in my experience. So dougle lead the way as we
Speaker 1: get ready for Chiefs Week coming up.
Speaker 4: We're happy we're one to zero going into week two.
Speaker 4: See on Jags. I am here on Wednesday.