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Speaker 1: Welcome into Texans All Access. Happy Halloween, Happy NFL trade

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Speaker 1: deadline day. It's another Tuesday, got Mark Vannermuer, Drew Doerty

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Speaker 1: joining me. First of all, it's freezing in the stadium,

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Speaker 1: which I did not expect after having eighty degree weather.

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Speaker 2: So chili day, but a nice fall day and lots

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Speaker 2: to get to.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and before we go anywhere, this is not your

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Speaker 3: last Texans All Access.

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Speaker 4: It's your second to second to last Texans All because.

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Speaker 3: You're leaving us and I hate you, so I just

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Speaker 3: wanted to get that out of the way. For that,

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Speaker 3: I mean, other than that, I like, that's great.

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Speaker 5: Will we have a bed of music next week underneath

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Speaker 5: the show with like.

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Speaker 1: I think you should just make all of next Tuesday's

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Speaker 1: All Access about me, like an ode your favorite memories

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Speaker 1: about me.

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Speaker 4: The first video you shot? Do you remember what it was?

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Speaker 2: First video I shot.

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Speaker 3: First video you ever shot for the Houston Texans. I

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Speaker 3: can't believe you don't remember.

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Speaker 2: Oh I do. It is the clear bag policy boom boom.

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Speaker 2: I was so nervous.

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Speaker 4: How about that? That was ten years ago that we

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Speaker 4: started the clear one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred and twenty degrees outside and I was so nervous

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Speaker 1: and we Yeah, it was the beginning of the clear

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Speaker 1: bag policy.

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Speaker 4: Did Je mcdavit shoot that?

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Speaker 2: He might have been the one to shoot it yet

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Speaker 2: or whatever.

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Speaker 4: He is senior VP of Digital.

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Speaker 2: Social Exact, then he's actually shoot videos.

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Speaker 3: It was an intern then and we were just hiring

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Speaker 3: him to be a full timer.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so much has changed. I was thinking back then

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Speaker 1: we did not have Texans three sixty. He had extra points.

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Speaker 5: It was a season show, no extra points.

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Speaker 4: Was still done by ABC thirteen then it was not.

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Speaker 1: In house yet, so they would do web Do you

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Speaker 1: remember us doing web videos on Fridays, like to look

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Speaker 1: forward to for the weekend.

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Speaker 4: So on the web.

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Speaker 3: I remember social media posts were let's post something, all right,

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Speaker 3: where's this for food? To post something? Ten years later,

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Speaker 3: it's an industry. It's unstoppable. Well less than ten years later,

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Speaker 3: it evolved into that. I remember remember when Eric said

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Speaker 3: in Assensio, who was our first web guy under our crew?

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Speaker 3: Not I know Nick Shank and Cardo O'Toole before that,

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Speaker 3: but Eric said to me once, yeah.

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Speaker 4: We need a full time social media person. I said, what,

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Speaker 4: which sounded crazy.

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Speaker 5: We're nuts?

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Speaker 4: Who does that? Well? Now we have a whole department.

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Speaker 4: So there it is.

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Speaker 2: I remember we had that.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the Twitter mirror because we used to

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Speaker 1: we didn't have selfie I don't know why we didn't do.

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Speaker 4: Selfiees, it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: We had a mirror that looked like Cinderella's mirror and

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Speaker 1: we would and it needed its own Wi Fi and

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Speaker 1: somebody always had to travel, and somehow I got saddled

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Speaker 1: with the Twitter mirror to take selfie videos with players

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Speaker 1: and it was so ridiculous. Literally picture a handheld vanity mirror, yes,

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of like Twitter birds at the top,

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Speaker 1: so it looks.

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Speaker 2: Very gaudy.

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Speaker 3: The video come out as just a video, had nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with the mirror.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, so why I have a mirror? And they

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Speaker 5: tried to give it to Vince Wilfork one time. I'm

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Speaker 5: not doing that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's too tough for that.

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Speaker 1: Times have change Now we just use our phones. It's

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Speaker 1: all much more simplistic. But yes, yeah, it's my second

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Speaker 1: to last show. I guess I hadn't really thought about it.

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Speaker 4: Oh really, Oh sorry I alerted you to Well.

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Speaker 2: You've alerted everyone now and everyone knows it's my second Well.

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Speaker 4: More next week.

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Speaker 2: So if I mess up, I've got one more.

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Speaker 3: Show to get it right, get it right, to finally

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Speaker 3: pitch the perfect show. It's funny because there was an

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Speaker 3: old ESPN This is Sports Center about that they're pitching

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Speaker 3: the perfect show and everyone's trying not to say anything.

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Speaker 3: They're waiting for the host to like wrap it up.

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Speaker 3: It's like a no hitter in okay, okay, yes, and

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Speaker 3: then does he screw up at the end or somebody.

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Speaker 3: But I always tell people there's no such thing as

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Speaker 3: the perfect broadcast. It's always flawed, especially when you're like

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Speaker 3: this talking broadcasting a game.

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Speaker 4: There's no perfect game.

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Speaker 3: I always know when the first little wrinkle, the little

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Speaker 3: glitch happens in the broadcast on a Sunday, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 3: there it goes, there goes the perfect broadcast.

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Speaker 2: What's your perfect broadcast? As close to a perfect broadcast,

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Speaker 2: your best I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think of it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it would be, because it might

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Speaker 3: be something where I wasn't thinking about it that was

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Speaker 3: probably more perfect than one where I was.

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Speaker 4: So it's hard to say.

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Speaker 3: Uh, there are games where you know, sometimes those games

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Speaker 3: where it's just crazy at shootout and you sort of

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Speaker 3: lose track of everything, and you're just going with the flow.

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Speaker 4: You're like the players.

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Speaker 3: It's like first down down, first down, touchdown, it's just

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Speaker 4: Those are the best.

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Speaker 5: What about the Falcons game here in twenty eleven when

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Speaker 5: it got really really loud because a lot happened in

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Speaker 5: that one, though, But there are a big game plays.

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Speaker 5: There's a big play at the end. They could have

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Speaker 5: won it had they completely.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, the perfect broadcast was probably a low scoring game

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Speaker 3: like that, where the game sort of I always say,

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Speaker 3: I hope the game comes to me right. You don't

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Speaker 3: want a lot of clunky, crazy stuff. The first NFL

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Speaker 3: game I ever did was a playoff game between the

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Speaker 3: Ravens and the Dolphins, and I've told this story where

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Speaker 3: Howard David couldn't make it so west Wood One asked

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Speaker 3: me to do it on a filling basis. I found

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Speaker 3: it out five in the morning. Anyway, there I am

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Speaker 3: doing the game, and I thought this game better come

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 4: And it did.

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Speaker 3: It was like ten to seven. It was a low scoring,

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Speaker 3: boring game, but that's just what I needed. I needed

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Speaker 3: a boring, simple game. Dolphins couldn't score. It was in

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Speaker 3: Miami Ravens had Tony Siragusa still in Sam Adams and

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Speaker 3: it was low scoring, boring, easy to call, not all this.

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Speaker 3: What was that a weird bounce and you didn't quite

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Speaker 3: catch it and somebody got in the way and that

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Speaker 1: Don't you want a good touchdown to like punctuate the game?

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Speaker 5: You do?

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Speaker 3: But I also wanted to do it right, you know,

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get it right. I was doing the

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Speaker 3: Hurricanes at the time, and I'd never done an NFL game,

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Speaker 3: and I just wanted to get it right. And then

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Speaker 3: I discovered the truth about NFL broadcasting, which is it's

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Speaker 3: easier to broadcast an NFL game than a college game

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Speaker 3: in many ways because the roster size, the roster size

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Speaker 3: and everything. You have so much information from the public

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Speaker 3: relations departments. You don't have duplications member organized. Yeah, for

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Speaker 3: sure the preseason you do. But I mean when I

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Speaker 3: moved here, Texas had two number threes, right, Salvin Young

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Speaker 3: and I forget who the other guy was, And I

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Speaker 3: remember I remember thinking about that. Good luck with the

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Speaker 3: college stuff, Craig Way, I've got the fell now where

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Speaker 3: everything is very It was easier too when it was

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Speaker 4: Tight ends are all in the.

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Speaker 3: Eighties and very rarely do you have lower numbers, And

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Speaker 5: You were basically doing an NFL broadcast, though, because Miami,

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Speaker 5: that Miami team. Yeah, they pumped out uys.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking, you would have loved talking to Denzel Pairman

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Speaker 1: because he's a king, he's a game. We talked about Miami,

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Speaker 1: have stayed in Florida either way.

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Speaker 4: But you talked about his fish committing suicides.

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Speaker 1: This show started, he was late, and we heard he

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Speaker 1: was gonna be five minutes late. He's about ten minutes late,

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Speaker 1: which is fine because players are busy on Tuesday getting

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Speaker 1: rehab and whatever. But he walks in he said, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm late. I had a fish that jumped out of

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Speaker 1: the tank. I was like, okay, well you know what

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Speaker 1: sailess fish. I didn't want to know because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to start the show with why.

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Speaker 5: He was late.

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Speaker 4: That was one of those don't tell me now.

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Speaker 1: He told that he's got a bunch of different types

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Speaker 1: of fish. But the more interesting part of the story

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Speaker 1: is that the fish committed suicide was down and he said,

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Speaker 1: for those of you missed the first hour, he said,

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Speaker 1: that's the first time that's happened this year.

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Speaker 4: Fish jump out of the tank.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should look into that, maybe, And he suggested

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Speaker 1: I suggested a bigger pool on his floor for the

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Speaker 1: fish to dive into, so that that would they would

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Speaker 1: save themselves. But he said, you know what, when it's

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Speaker 1: there time to go, it's time to go. He just

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to be of us anymore. So he

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Speaker 1: had a very existential take on his fish.

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Speaker 2: Anyway. That's how that's how that.

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Speaker 5: I like him.

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Speaker 4: I like him. He's a very easy guy to like,

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Speaker 4: and he's intense.

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Speaker 2: And he's playing well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was PFF's top linebacker of the week.

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Speaker 5: He's a monster on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: So PFF, when they say something, I like what they

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Speaker 3: have to say. When they say something I don't like,

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Speaker 3: they don't know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 1: It was Denzil's one hundredth career game as well, which

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Speaker 1: I thought, that's a nice game to have, like lead

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Speaker 1: the team and tackles.

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Speaker 2: The club was off his hand.

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Speaker 1: You would have liked him Mark because he started he

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Speaker 1: started losing his voice because of all the oning he

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Speaker 1: had to do on the field, and so he likes

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Speaker 1: his concoction of.

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Speaker 2: Tea with milk, honey, no honey, ginger, lemon.

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Speaker 4: Yea ginger is good, like this is what?

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Speaker 2: This is what the radio.

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Speaker 5: We were joking about that yesterday because he left. He

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Speaker 5: did a press conference on Monday, and he was kind

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Speaker 5: of saying as he was walking away about his troubles

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Speaker 5: with his voice. And I said, she's here with vanderm

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Speaker 5: vanmil cooking something nice.

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Speaker 2: With all the European honey lion.

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Speaker 5: Around five different honeys. And we'd walk in on Vandermier

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Speaker 5: like guzzling honey.

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Speaker 4: And I used to guzzle the honey. Remember I went out.

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Speaker 1: All you remember we remember it was sticky everything.

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Speaker 4: I had to do what I had to do.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to have like a big

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Speaker 1: bee's nest in here. You just wanted the most the

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Speaker 1: purest type of honey. Manuka honey.

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Speaker 4: That's right. I will never forget Manuka. It is good

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Speaker 4: for you.

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Speaker 3: They put it on wounds in New Zealand, Okay, and

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Speaker 1: We talked about how he was like a kicker and

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Speaker 4: Have launch that? That was a mortar.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If the Texans win that game, yeah, he's a lock

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Speaker 3: because of where he placed the ball. They were constantly

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Speaker 3: put in poor field position that final drive. They were

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he did it from his own end zone and

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Speaker 5: it drove the return man back almost the fifteen. He

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Speaker 5: That was one of four of six that were down

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Speaker 5: I know it was hot. It wasn't very windy, was it.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's like it was a little bit they've

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Speaker 3: wasn't that case at all. I think that it was

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Speaker 3: it swirls or whatever it does. So I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: I would think he's.

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Speaker 5: Putt in seventeen times this season because he missed the

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Speaker 5: the twenty. That's better than fifty percent when you're doing that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's a that's really really high high number

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Speaker 3: It also says that the Texans are moving the ball

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Speaker 3: at least enough to prevent him from having to punt

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Speaker 3: giving them good field position. Because it's even a guy

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Speaker 1: You know, it was so many there was it's really

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Speaker 1: many good things that happened in that game and it

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of pressure on Bryce Young. First

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Speaker 1: But even knowing that, when I saw him on the

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Speaker 2: By the rest of the old line.

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Speaker 1: But just seeing what this defensive line was able to

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Garnard said it, what started off was what everyone

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, it was a defensive battle.

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 3: When you have a fifteen thirteen outing. It felt like

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Speaker 3: they scored two t touchdowns, but one hundred and forty

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Speaker 4: They'll be the first to tell you that.

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Speaker 3: They ran for one ten, which in context of this

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Speaker 4: But it didn't feel like it. It didn't feel like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty carries and you look at the end of

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Speaker 3: felt like the Texans were the team that might have

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, well, they need to get it together on

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking it's an aberration.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping it's an aberration because you had second and

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Speaker 3: thirty five and you end up having to punt because

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Speaker 3: what was it? Incomplete five yard penalty third and ten

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Speaker 3: I mean you have to go for a punt there

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Speaker 5: Think about it. They have two touchdown drives, two scoring

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Speaker 5: but on those seven drives you only average three point

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Speaker 5: nine plays per possession. I mean, you're basically going three

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Speaker 3: A lot of stress on the defense when they took

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Speaker 3: if they'd want a game thirteen twelve, Believe me, I'd

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Speaker 4: But they wont.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a beautiful win, because they're all wins are beautiful.

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Speaker 3: You have to appreciate them as they occur. But man,

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Speaker 3: that was really tough to take. You knew that you

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Speaker 4: Just got to try again. And what did we talk

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Speaker 3: I talked about one win Chicago winning a game at home,

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Speaker 1: I kind of wish we had the bye week this

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Speaker 4: I hate going into the buye with a loss, though.

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Speaker 1: I hate going out to the buye with a loss too,

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Speaker 1: But it just seemed like the momentum that they had. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe Bobby Slow wanted to try some different things change

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Speaker 2: But the offense, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, maybe you get a little bit healthier, maybe you

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happens. Jared Patterson.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, that's a that's gonna be a big story for

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to talk abou him in a second,

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Speaker 5: I told you, what's your score prediction? If I told

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Speaker 2: That was amazing, by the way I was in the

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Speaker 5: Would be what would you think the outcome would have been?

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Speaker 3: Fourteen point win, ten point win at least that kind

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Speaker 1: I would have asked you the turnover battle, but you

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Speaker 5: So yeah, but yeah, maybe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I uh looked at the defensive numbers afterwards because

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Speaker 3: We've talked about it though, like last year they were

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Speaker 3: for that matter. They had another sort of semi equal

445
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Speaker 3: number of carries in this game. And Stroud is Stroud.

446
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Speaker 3: I mean, you've is he the best player on the team.

447
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Speaker 3: You know, we could argue that all day, but he's

448
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Speaker 3: c J.

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Speaker 5: Stroud.

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Speaker 4: He's an awesome quarterback.

451
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Speaker 3: They got to find a way to really get him

452
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Speaker 3: going here against Tampa Bay on Sunday. And that's not

453
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Speaker 3: gonna be easy because we just said they have a

454
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Speaker 3: good defense and they have names, you know, I mean,

455
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Speaker 3: you have no you know, Brian Burns, you know, Derek

456
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Speaker 3: Brown a little bit for the Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay.

457
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Speaker 4: Go look at their defense. These are guys.

458
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, remember seeing them in the Super Bowl. I

459
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Speaker 3: remember seeing them in all these playoff games they've played

460
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Speaker 3: in recent years. I know they had Tom Brady and

461
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Speaker 3: I said to Demiko, those are the Brady Bucks.

462
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Speaker 4: These are the Baker Bucks.

463
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Speaker 3: But they have a lot of the same guys, a

464
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Speaker 3: lot of the same dudes that you know very well,

465
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Speaker 3: and they're ready to come in here and try to

466
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Speaker 3: snap a three game losing streak that they have going on.

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Speaker 1: One of those guys is Vitavea right there in the

468
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Speaker 1: middle of the D line. And that brings us back

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Speaker 1: to Jared Patterson being out for Sunday's game. Yeah, you

470
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Speaker 1: see him getting caught like that's not a that's not

471
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Speaker 1: ideal to have one of the best news tackles in

472
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Speaker 1: the league going against I don't know they do it.

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Speaker 1: Fill in the blank at center and oh my gosh,

474
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Speaker 1: the number. I wrote a story about this. It's up

475
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Speaker 1: on Houston Texas dot com. The number of centers this

476
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Speaker 1: team has gone through this year. Because you start off

477
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Speaker 1: with Scott Questenberry, who's your starting center from last year.

478
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Speaker 1: He gets injured in camp, gets carted off the field.

479
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Speaker 1: Then you bring in Juice Scruggs. No problem, second round

480
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Speaker 1: draft pick, that's what you drafted him for. He's gonna

481
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Speaker 1: get a start a little bit early. Fine, does something

482
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Speaker 1: at the end of does something at the end of

483
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Speaker 1: preseason in the New Orleans game, lands on ir Okay,

484
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Speaker 1: Jared Patterson, next man up. He comes in and is

485
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Speaker 1: really playing strong the last seven.

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Speaker 2: Games or so.

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Speaker 1: You don't even remember that he's a rookie and he

488
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Speaker 1: wasn't even taking the majority of snaps in camp.

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Speaker 4: Dimiko said that too.

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Speaker 3: The fact that we haven't talked about him, We haven't

491
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Speaker 3: talked about it a great thing, because offensive linemen tend

492
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Speaker 3: to be that way, right. You don't want to hear

493
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Speaker 3: their name much because you want to hear the unit

494
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Speaker 3: the offensive line is doing a great job. You don't

495
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Speaker 3: want to hear individual names much because that usually means

496
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Speaker 3: they're being singled out for mistakes they've made.

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Speaker 4: But Patterson has performed well.

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Speaker 1: You've never right exactly if you heard his name, it

499
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Speaker 1: would have been like a full snap or something. Some

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Speaker 1: center quarterback exchange gone wrong. Haven't heard that at all,

501
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Speaker 1: considering like he wasn't working with CJ and Camp. But

502
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Speaker 1: now he goes out and then.

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Speaker 2: Who comes in now? Is just Scrugs going to come off?

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Speaker 5: Irer?

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Speaker 4: Well, he's getting ready, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't feel like he's ready to step in

507
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Speaker 3: at this particular moment in time. Jimmy Morris, he's still

508
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Speaker 3: in the practice squad. Michael Dieter who filled in during

509
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Speaker 3: the game. You do have options there. At least they

510
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Speaker 3: have a week to prepare for this particular game and

511
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Speaker 3: then take it from there, because we all know this

512
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Speaker 3: is an ebb and flow thing with the roster and

513
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Speaker 3: you have the tid deadline, you have signings, and you

514
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Speaker 3: have elevations every week, and it's more complex and active

515
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Speaker 3: than ever and COVID had a lot to do with that,

516
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Speaker 3: with the expansion of the practice squads, the flexibility with

517
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Speaker 3: the roster on game day and different things you can do.

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Speaker 3: It's great for the players, great for the teams. We've

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Speaker 3: mentioned all that, and I think that they're going to

520
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Speaker 3: continue to churn this thing. They're going to continue to

521
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Speaker 3: look for players who can help them out, and they

522
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Speaker 3: obviously need help at that spot right now.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's really it's quietly one of the most

524
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Speaker 5: holy Molly moments or things out there, because think about you,

525
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Speaker 5: a first year head coach, first year offensive coordinator, rookie quarterback,

526
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Speaker 5: and a rookie center. I mean, it's almost a recipe

527
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Speaker 5: for doom and maybe one or two wins tops and

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Speaker 5: they've they've been able to win three be really really

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Speaker 5: close to two others, and you know, the schedule still

530
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Speaker 5: sets up nicely for what they can do. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I know there's a bit of doom in gloom this week,

532
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Speaker 5: but I'm not overly concerned about what I saw on Sunday. Yeah,

533
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Speaker 5: you got to get better, but it's like CJ. Strauss,

534
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Speaker 5: make a few more throws, you're on the field a

535
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Speaker 5: lot longer, you get going.

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Speaker 3: You know, I had four knockdowns, exact, if you complete

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Speaker 3: two of those, let's just say you have two knockdowns

538
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Speaker 3: instead of four, that could extend a drive, it could

539
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Speaker 3: mean a score, it could mean who knows what. You

540
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Speaker 3: keep the ball away from them a little bit longer,

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Speaker 3: The universe changes. I mean, everything has an impact. And

542
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Speaker 3: that was just not their day. So and what did

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Speaker 3: cjsay cobwebs. After the bye I thought that was an

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Speaker 3: interesting word. So he felt like they just weren't on

545
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Speaker 3: their game. We'll see if they are on their game

546
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Speaker 3: on Sunday. But I don't feel dooming gloom. I just

547
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Speaker 3: feel like this is a big challenge is the NFL.

548
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Speaker 3: We see these teams win and lose every week, and

549
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Speaker 3: you feel great when you win, you feel like crap

550
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Speaker 3: when you lose, and then you look at the end

551
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Speaker 3: result at the end of the year, you hope you

552
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Speaker 3: can win more than you lose. This is really scientific.

553
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Speaker 3: Win more than you lose and you're gonna be in

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Speaker 3: good shape. Yes, I figured it all out after twenty

555
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Speaker 3: two years.

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Speaker 4: That's what you're looking to do in this league.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was. Yeah, it was cobwebs.

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Speaker 1: Not only for CG but Tank Dell had not played

559
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Speaker 1: a game in two weeks really because he had the concussion.

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Speaker 4: He was back.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he did some nice things.

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Speaker 5: Now he's like a feather.

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Speaker 4: Oh just so good.

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Speaker 1: Well him being back, I feel a lot more comfortable

565
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Speaker 1: than him not being And I think what the injuries

566
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Speaker 1: of the old line. The old line has Coach Strausser

567
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Speaker 1: has done a fantastic job with these guys, bring them

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Speaker 1: up to speed. But I think just getting some of

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Speaker 1: your offensive playmakers back and getting the ball in their hands,

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Speaker 1: that's what CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroll is gonna want to see.

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Speaker 1: And you know that he's really hard on himself after

573
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Speaker 1: the game and talking about it after the game.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like this is a good you come

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Speaker 2: back home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got everybody healthy, as healthy as they can

577
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Speaker 1: be at this time of year.

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Speaker 3: He's rock and roll, and you just go four of

579
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Speaker 3: the next five games are at NRG Stadium.

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Speaker 4: That's big.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So after this one you go to Cincinnati, then you're

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Speaker 3: back for a three game home stretch. You have what

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Speaker 3: Arizona and not in this order necessarily. Jacksonville might be

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Speaker 3: the last one.

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Speaker 4: Denver.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the last one. I don't know, but Denver, Arizona, Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait for the Jacksonville one. That's Thanksgiving weekend. That's

589
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Speaker 3: gonna be cool.

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Speaker 5: Battle Red Helmets two against Jacksonville, you bet it'll be

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Speaker 5: battle back.

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Speaker 4: I tend to know these things. I always forget those things.

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Speaker 3: The only time I really had battle Red locked into

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Speaker 3: my brain was last year on November third.

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Speaker 4: I still remember the day because it was the Eagles

596
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Speaker 4: and the battle.

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Speaker 5: Right helmet, So I would guess the third battle Red

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Speaker 5: helmet will be the final game of the year against

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Speaker 5: the Titans at home.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because they get to wear the battle

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Speaker 2: red helmets we wear on the road.

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Speaker 4: When they wear the oiler uniforms. Are we going to

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Speaker 4: get into that game now?

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Speaker 5: I think, But there's gonna be three times they've already

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Speaker 5: worn it once. We know they're going to wear it

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Speaker 5: against the Jags. I would think it's going to be

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Speaker 5: against the Titans, right I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel much better than I did yesterday because yesterday

609
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Speaker 3: I couldn't even think about the Titans game and hop

610
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Speaker 3: with three touchdown, I just couldn't even think about it.

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Speaker 3: And today I'm getting over the weekend a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: That was a rough weekend. That was a rough NFL

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Speaker 3: Sunday for the Houston Texans. The only thing that really

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Speaker 3: came through for you was the Colts losing, which was

615
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Speaker 3: great to the and I always enjoy watching the Patriots lose.

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Speaker 3: It has really nothing to do with us, but I

617
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Speaker 3: enjoy having it happen.

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Speaker 5: And the Browns lost too, that's good for it.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, how could I forget that address.

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Speaker 1: It's a crazy weekend of NFL football, and it's a

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Speaker 1: crazy day because the NFL trade deadline pass today. I

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Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on some of the big

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Speaker 1: moves across the NFL. It seems like one position group

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Speaker 1: in particular has seen a lot of action. We're going

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Speaker 1: to get into that and more. It's all coming up

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Speaker 1: on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Texans All Access. It's a trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into that, Mark mentioned DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: the unis, I want to give your thoughts because it's

630
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Speaker 1: definitely making its rounds on Twitter. I saw the article

631
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Speaker 1: in the Houston Chronicle that the NFL's in a cease

632
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Speaker 1: and to assist a letter.

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Speaker 2: To University of Houston on the love you of blue uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Drew was sitting next to me and he as

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Speaker 1: soon as that article hit, Drew pulled it up, starts

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Speaker 1: reading it.

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Speaker 2: I start reading it, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, it's interesting to see because I know in Houston

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Speaker 1: people have their thoughts about it, but it's it seems

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Speaker 1: like even nationally people are like, what is the big deal?

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Speaker 4: The big deal?

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Speaker 2: The big deal because Ole Miss wears those colors you've got.

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Speaker 4: Other but they wore a real oiler uniform.

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Speaker 2: The Kugs did, but Rice did as well.

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Speaker 3: But Rice had some silver helmet addition to it. Rice

646
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Speaker 3: wasn't a carbon copy.

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Speaker 2: Of the Rockets twenty twenty one twenty.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how that worked.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty twenty twenty one, the Rockets were these baby

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Speaker 1: blue uniforms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with the red trim or whatever, but they I

652
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Speaker 3: don't know how that works with the NBA. But it

653
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Speaker 3: was so direct what the Kougs did that I get

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Speaker 3: it in a certain way. But you know what, as

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Speaker 3: long as they're not selling it, which I guess they're not.

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Speaker 3: My understanding is they weren't selling any uniforms like this

657
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Speaker 3: or jerseys like this in their team shop.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they were. Do you think they

659
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Speaker 4: were Drew? Were they?

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Speaker 5: I don't think they were.

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Speaker 4: Whatever.

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Speaker 5: My biggest question is this, how can the NFL suit

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Speaker 5: who's driving it? Is it the Titans said, hey, NFL

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Speaker 5: get on these guys, or is it the NFL acting

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Speaker 5: almost by themselves saying no, this is a league.

666
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Speaker 3: I really don't know the answer to that question, other

667
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: than to say the league has a lot to do

668
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: with the uniforms because we're going through these processes right now, right,

669
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: and the process definitely involves the League and Nike very much,

670
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: so very much, so they have a lot to do

671
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: with it. But as far as the rights go, now,

672
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: if a store or a business uses the bullhead, for instance,

673
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 3: the league, I guess you could ask the League to

674
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: step in and write the cease and to sist. But

675
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 3: the Texans often do this themselves because it happens all

676
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: the time, right, they have to send out a form

677
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: letter basically saying, hey, stop it, and we're all encouraged.

678
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: You know, if you see something that's really egregious, go

679
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: ahead and take a picture of it.

680
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: A business.

681
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: There was a business once that was blatantly using the

682
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: bullhead and had nothing to do with the Texans, and

683
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: I knew it, and we had partners that competed with

684
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: that business, and I just took a shot and sent

685
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 3: it into the legal department and.

686
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 5: It think about you, guys. So the Titans are doing

687
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 5: this as a shot at all at the Texans. Okay,

688
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 5: So you would think they would like all these other

689
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 5: Houston institutions and teams to wear their colors as opposed

690
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 5: to the Texans. Colors, which is why I'm kind of surprised.

691
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 5: I'm kind of surprised by the lack of any reaction

692
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 5: from them. Have they been told by the NFL, hey

693
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 5: be quiet, or do they wish they could say something

694
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 5: but they can't the Titans yeah, or did they say, hey,

695
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 5: these guys are wearing our uniforms, get after them. I mean,

696
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 5: I think you're right.

697
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: I think if you want to totrol the Texans, you

698
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: should encourage you age to wear And it says Houston

699
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: across that's.

700
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 5: Why they're wearing these uniforms in Nashville. That's the only reason.

701
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: Tell you what upset me.

702
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: And I wasn't even here for the Oilers, okay, but

703
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 3: my DNA is spliced into Houston sports history, and I

704
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: was upset on all the Twitter handles. Even Titans Radio

705
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: was Oilers Radio, and I'm.

706
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: Like, Oiler's Radio.

707
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: What are you doing?

708
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: You're not the freaking Oiler something. The Tennessee owners for

709
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: a year, they keep the name, keep the name name.

710
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: If you want to own the name and own everything,

711
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: why didn't you just keep it? If you love it

712
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 3: so much, keep it right. There's no oil in Tennessee. Anywhere.

713
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: You can't even just have a little bit of a

714
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: poetic license here and use that as your name.

715
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: Keep the name, go ahead.

716
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: No, you didn't keep the name because you didn't want

717
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: the name.

718
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: You didn't want it. You just want it now to

719
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: troll Houston.

720
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: That's all.

721
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: That's it, And in memory of Bud Adams. That's why

722
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: you're doing it. Otherwise, either give the Texans the name

723
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: of the city of Houston, the name of the right

724
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: whatever however you want to.

725
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: Work it like angry Mark.

726
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: Okay, so that was my first question.

727
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: They don't want the name and they don't want anyone else.

728
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 5: To Wait, what about this this? Do Titans fans in Tennessee? No,

729
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 5: really give a rip a belt.

730
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: They How would they care at all?

731
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 5: Right?

732
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 3: This is like, listen, I used to be married to her,

733
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: and here's a picture of her. And here I'm gonna

734
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: hang this up on the wall. Here's a bikini picture

735
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: of her. Here's our wedding picture. Don't you enjoy this, honey?

736
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: This is your new bride, but you're showing your old

737
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: you know, your old spouse photos to That's what it is.

738
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: The people in Nashville are.

739
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: Like, I don't care about an oil Derek on my field.

740
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: What is this Titan? How about celebrate the Titans. You know,

741
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: you do have a little bit of a history there,

742
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: and you've been to a Super Bowl as the Titans.

743
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: Thank god it wasn't as the Oilers. So there you

744
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: have it. It is their own history. They should embrace

745
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: Titan history and Titan heritage, not oilers. But you know

746
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: they're gonna do what they're gonna do. And I know

747
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: the here's another thing. Are you ready? And I love

748
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: warm Moon? But I heard he said this. Somebody said, like,

749
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: you know, they were thanking And I get it. Thank

750
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: Amy Adams right for all the all the nice stuff

751
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: she does for the oiler lums.

752
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: And that's great. Okay, that's fine.

753
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: But to say that the Texans have not supported the oilers, now,

754
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: I know in the beginning wasn't like that. Okay, they

755
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: were coming into the market, the Texans and.

756
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: Established.

757
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I can't say that any better than that. But

758
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: as time progressed, what.

759
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 5: Let me stop you there, because when they unveiled, there's

760
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 5: a big unveiling, either of the uniforms or the logo

761
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 5: or whatever. Ray Childress was there, Houston, other great Earl

762
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 5: Campbell was there, greatest coach in Oiler's history. Bum Phillips

763
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 5: was there and has always been at.

764
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: That's nice, that's good. And you know what happened.

765
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: Eventually we were paying oilers to be our ambassadors. Okay,

766
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: many of them all right, Ken Houston, I mean not

767
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: like you know, gargangean amounts of money, but to make

768
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: appearances as Texans ambassadors.

769
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 4: Right then they did a wonderful job.

770
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: And I love Ken Houston, Curtis Duncan, Kenny Burrow, I

771
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: think I'm Kenny Burrow has been around.

772
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously.

773
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: Schisserini has done so many shows with us over the years.

774
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: He has, but I don't know if he's ever technically

775
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: been an ambassador.

776
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: But you know we I mean I feel like I

777
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: would go to those shows out and about people would come.

778
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: They can you walk out of the tunnel past law.

779
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: So we've celebrated and honored, we are Homecoming games featured

780
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: former oilers. So now it's like, well, you've never done anything, really,

781
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying they all say this, but it

782
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: shouldn't be said.

783
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: You should appreciate what she does for you.

784
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: Great, I understand that, appreciate that she honors you, but

785
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: it's not like we haven't done anything.

786
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Here, but when bum Phillips comes onto the field, it

787
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: was a playoff game right now?

788
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty eleven, Like.

789
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: I was in the stands, the entire stadium went berserk.

790
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Mary still stands on the back of my

791
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 4: neck when it killing.

792
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: It's the most exciting, awesome memory.

793
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 1: And if they bring him out when you know, if

794
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: he was alive in Nashville, I don't think he gets

795
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: He doesn't get that sort of applause.

796
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: Because he's a he's a folk hero. But here's a

797
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: better one.

798
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: And people in Houston have embraced Yeah, like Warren Moon.

799
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: To the Tennessee fans, Oh great, I mean they like.

800
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: Warren Mooney's and he's an international international, but he's you know,

801
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: he's a national celebrity in sports.

802
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: Great Warren Moon? Or what about what about Pastorini? Though?

803
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: How do they feel about that? People would use to

804
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: know pastor Raini People in Nashville. I'm not saying they

805
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 3: don't know Dan Pastorini, but what is what does that

806
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: mean to them? What does love You Blue mean to

807
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: the people of Nashville? Nothing zero, zip other than we

808
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: stole your team.

809
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 4: That's it.

810
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: And I'm not bitter about that part of it, because

811
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: I'm grateful the Texans are here. But it's just it's

812
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: an odd dynamic and it's just up to the Texans

813
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: that when they go to Tennessee not to win that game,

814
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: to win the game, and they're whinning they where when

815
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: they're wearing the Oiler uniforms, the Titans are go ahead

816
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: and smash mouth and win.

817
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee had the best It's funny when you hear

818
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: national people talk about this because they think it's a

819
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: slap in the face to Houston fans to see those

820
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: amazing uniforms being worn in a different city, a different team.

821
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: Watts actually gets it because he's like, look, I played

822
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: there for ten years.

823
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: Like I get that.

824
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: He's like, I Amy Adamstrung donated to the Hurricane Harvey

825
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: relief fund.

826
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: He has a great relationship with her.

827
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: He said, However, the people of Houston with those uniforms,

828
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: with those colors mean to the people of Houston because

829
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: they have a history with that Oilers team.

830
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: He's like, I get it. Those uniforms are great. We

831
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: would have loved to wear it. But with that being.

832
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: Said, on the Pat McAfee show, they said the only

833
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: way the Tennessee Titans could make this worse is if

834
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: they wear it against the Houston Texans.

835
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: And JJ said, well, I think they are planning on it,

836
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: and they were horrified, but I love that.

837
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: McAfee's suggestion was, I think they should duke it out

838
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: for the uniforms. Let let the Titans wear blue and

839
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: maybe the Texans were the white version, and then whoever

840
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: wins gets to keep the jersey and immediately after the

841
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: game have to take off losing team hats, to take

842
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: off their uniforms and hand it over.

843
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: Would it be a great way to solve this problem?

844
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 4: Maybe, Yeah, play for the right to wear the uniform.

845
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: You earned it, you get it.

846
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: Maybe the next year, maybe for the next year you

847
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: get It's like the Oiler Cup, or you play for

848
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: the Cup. You play for the Derek Trophy. You know,

849
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: that could be our little rivalry like all these big

850
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: ten schools.

851
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 4: Like the Axe, you know, the Apple Cup.

852
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they play for all these things, Bucket, We'll play

853
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: for a little oil.

854
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 5: Derek.

855
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 4: This is it. This is the trophy between the problem solved.

856
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: And there was a time when the Texans were really

857
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: marketing the rivalry with the Titans. It was the T

858
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: n T rivalry, remember, well, and we didn't do that anymore.

859
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 4: You know, we kind of dropped that over the years.

860
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: It's a rivalry, great, but to play for a Derek

861
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: Trophy Now, now we're talking, although the current players would be.

862
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: Like, what's going on? I don't even know. I don't

863
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 4: even understand this. What are you guys talking about? Like

864
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 4: the Derek guys were born?

865
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: I mean c J was born after game one of

866
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 3: Texans history. Think about that for a moment. He was

867
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: born after September eighth, two thousand and two.

868
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 5: He was born a year before what Yeah, oh, you're.

869
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 6: Right, garn it first player born tarnt Okay, never mind,

870
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 6: but next year we're gonna have a guy.

871
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: I'm glad you corrected me. I need an automatic fact check.

872
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 4: This is good.

873
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: I need a fact checker. Not during a play by

874
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: play broadcast, but during this.

875
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I thought.

876
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: You know.

877
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: Omar Azoom of PR he had an even better idea.

878
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: He said, how about we make the head coaches wrestle

879
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: for them?

880
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: Miss normally?

881
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

882
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: This is another suggesting fighting and wrestling are different. I'm

883
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 3: not saying I don't agree with you, but it's always

884
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: a different dynamic, Like you could get somebody completely mismatched

885
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: in appearance.

886
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: With Rabel or Demico and they could win, you know

887
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: what I mean.

888
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely. I saw the movie Vision Quest. I

889
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 5: know this works. I also saw I've also seen with

890
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 5: my own eyes in the Texans locker room across the hall.

891
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 5: I've seen Mike Rabel wrestle players in the locker room

892
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: just just.

893
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 6: For front like Vision Quest style five years older.

894
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 3: Now, where they up in the stance like one guy

895
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 3: in all fours and the other.

896
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 5: They were squared off. Yeah, hunched over about to go out. Yeah, absolutely,

897
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 5: so who I can't remember who it was.

898
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: This is off the record stuff. I guess in the

899
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: locker room if you're wrestling with an assistant, I just.

900
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 5: Remember he dominated, you know, like that's probably why. Yeah, yeah, it's.

901
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: I remember him doing push ups at the Greenbriar, and

902
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 3: I took note of how he does push ups, and

903
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: I do my push ups the same way.

904
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 4: How does he do push He's very aggressive doing his

905
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 4: push ups.

906
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: You know, he is, he's flying, but he's doing a

907
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: full push up, you know, but he's doing an angry

908
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: push up as if he's pushing the earth, down from him,

909
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: Away from him, Get away from the earth.

910
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 5: You can tell. You can tell on TV he's a

911
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 5: very big guy, but when you see him in person,

912
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 5: it's like his shoulders are, you know, eight ft wide.

913
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 5: He's He's enormous in person.

914
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: Big de likes to run sprints before every game.

915
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: Up and Ted Johnson Willie McGinnis was like all those

916
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 3: Patriot linebackers from.

917
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: The early o's. They're frightening humans. They are.

918
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: They're way bigger than today's linebacker.

919
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 4: It's a different game. They didn't have to pass.

920
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: They could cover guys, but they didn't have to do

921
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 3: it as much and as as in the same fashion

922
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: that these linebackers today have to.

923
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 5: He was also very good vable and maybe still is

924
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 5: at four square.

925
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: So I missed the four Square network.

926
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: All right, we're going to take a break.

927
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: We come back one final segment. We will get into

928
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: some NFL trade deadline stuff. It's all, but you had

929
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: to wait the whole show.

930
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 5: No, no, no, we covered the uniforms. We're gonna get

931
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 5: into Houston and Dallas with if he gets oh boy, you'll.

932
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: Have to find out.

933
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: Well, we actually get into one final segment exans all

934
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: axes Come in your Way. Final segment of Texans All Axes,

935
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: Come in Your Way. It is the NFL trade deadline.

936
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: It's also Halloween. It's also the day that we discuss

937
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: NFL uniforms with the Titans. We've kind of covered it all,

938
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: but we do need to get to some trade deadline stuff.

939
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: Not a lot of big news. I guess there were

940
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: a few stories earlier. I think that was earlier in

941
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: the day news.

942
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, and Montese sweat because that means Washington's unloading, right, So.

943
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: That is exactly what that seemed like.

944
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: So you got Leonard Williams to the Seahawks, Montes Weat

945
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: to the Bears, Chase Young to the forty nine ers,

946
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: and Arizona Cardinals. They sent quarterback Josh Dobbs and a

947
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four conditional seventh to.

948
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 4: The Minicital Vikings.

949
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: That's big because with the Kirk Cousins Achilles injury, some

950
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: people were floating the idea of a mister case Keenum

951
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: going to the VI And also.

952
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 5: It affects the Texans because the Cardinals are playing at

953
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 5: the Browns this weekend.

954
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, and you're playing the Cardinals eventually, and you're

955
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 3: playing the Browns eventually, right, so you might see dob

956
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: you never know. I mean, is there any guarantees see

957
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: Watson on Christmas Eve here at an RG stadium. There's

958
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 3: no guarantee. You can't guarantee anything with him right now,

959
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: and Dobbs you can guarantee this. He's the go to

960
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 3: guy of the moment if you need an emergency quarterback.

961
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: And I guess the Cardinals feel like they'll go with Tuned,

962
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: They'll go with Murray if he's ready or whatever they're

963
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: gonna do.

964
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: But Dobbs, I like him. I like him.

965
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: He's super smart, as we all know. Yeah, and he plays. Look,

966
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: I was hoping that I was hoping he'd win that

967
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: game against the Jags for the AFC South Championship last year.

968
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 3: I don't know why, because I hate the Titans.

969
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 6: Two.

970
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: I just didn't want to see the Jags get it

971
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: because I'm bitter and shallow in a sports fashion.

972
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 4: But this is notable because he goes to the Minnesota.

973
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 4: Is it gonna be Hall? Is it going to be Dobbs.

974
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 4: It's probably Hall. We'll see how they handle it.

975
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm surprised they trade him, and I'm looking at.

976
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 5: Well yeah, Hall, they've said is going to start this

977
00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 5: next game.

978
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, but eventually oh yeah.

979
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: But the Cardinals, it looks like Clayton Ton is supposed

980
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: to start this week.

981
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I'm not.

982
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: Over Kyler Murray.

983
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: He may still play, but now they're saying next week

984
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: is more likely.

985
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: It's a weird, weird situation in areas.

986
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: Weird with all these guys, now, all these quarterbacks, Watson him,

987
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: you know, I watched now Jimmy Garoppolo is a little

988
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: bit different. You know, we've been accustomed to him having

989
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: health issues, and he made it a per he made

990
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: it appearance on Monday Night Football. It felt like a cameo, like, hey,

991
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo dropped and decided to play a game.

992
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 4: And he was getting.

993
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: Steamrolled by that Lions defense. I mean, they were just

994
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: destroying the Raiders. It was a pleasure to watch. Some

995
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: of that was because I was happy for Aaron Glenn,

996
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: original Texan and defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions that

997
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: he's having that kind of success. Plus it makes me

998
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: feel like, you know what they're doing that why not

999
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: the Texans eventually getting to that level? Now, what is

1000
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: that level? They're six and two great. They had a

1001
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 3: great finish last year. They finished with a winning season,

1002
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: they didn't make the playoffs. Where they headed ultimately nobody knows,

1003
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: but they're headed in the right direction.

1004
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: It would appear.

1005
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: Albert Reer was saying that the Patriots apparently never got

1006
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: any calls on mac Jones or Zeke Elliott, So maybe maybe.

1007
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: They's good trade for mac Jones. Oh maybe the Vikings.

1008
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: Really, But like with what I mean, I don't even

1009
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: understand how that would.

1010
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 2: Case Keenum makes more more sense than mac Jones.

1011
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 4: I guess he does.

1012
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: But if I'm the Vikings, I'm wondering, am I guess the.

1013
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: Miracle Case Keenum?

1014
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: Or am I getting a Case Keenum that's ready for

1015
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: retirement soon or whatever? I think we see Case in practice.

1016
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: He's spry, he saw him in training camp. I think

1017
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: he could still play. He could help a team that's

1018
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 3: good like that. But if I'm Nick Cassario Damiko Rans,

1019
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm not so eager to give up Case Keenum.

1020
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: I love him in the locker room if we have

1021
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 3: to go there. Look, you've been really lucky. Knock Wood.

1022
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 4: Don't want to.

1023
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 3: Get injuries at that position. Group a lot of people

1024
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: talk to me about, Hey, you think Mills is going

1025
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: to get traded. I'm thinking no, if there were wholesale

1026
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: injuries at the quarterback position around the league, maybe there

1027
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: would be, you know, a great market for that. But

1028
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: I'm thinking you need your own insurance here, right.

1029
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 4: You have a lot of possibility.

1030
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 5: Absolutely totally.

1031
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: It's kind of nice.

1032
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: I feel like the last few years we've hit the

1033
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: trade deadline, it's been kind of stressful. Yeah, you know,

1034
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: and it's like it was, it was kind of a

1035
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: maybe it seems like a quieter trade deadline deadline because

1036
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: a the Texans didn't have a like a situation where

1037
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: you thought, is Brandon Cook was going to be traded?

1038
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: Is he not going to be traded?

1039
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,959
Speaker 4: To Show Watson the year before, year before was deal

1040
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 4: was on fire.

1041
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: It seemed like something might happen.

1042
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: Up until the last minute, we were just like refreshing

1043
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: Twitter ye for the app formally known as Twitter, over

1044
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: and over again. So it's kind of nice to not

1045
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: have like be in a situation where you're just offloading

1046
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: players or players that.

1047
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: You have to get rid of.

1048
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the real question was, wait a minute, you're

1049
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: not going to trade anybody right are you shopping for people?

1050
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: Are you going to go he's looking to add, Yeah,

1051
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: but I would hate to part with draft capital.

1052
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1053
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: It's a hard thing to figure what are the team

1054
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: needs right now? Well, a lot of it has to

1055
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: do with who are you willing to re sign in

1056
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: the offseason among the veterans you picked up on the

1057
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 3: short term deals, combined with how's the draft working out

1058
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: the last couple of drafts, last two or three drafts,

1059
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 3: as far as guys who can.

1060
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 4: Be here for a while. And they got to weigh

1061
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 4: all that out.

1062
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know if it's worth to just get

1063
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: a player or two through trades you can get and

1064
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: Johnny likens it to dollar lottery tickets. Sometimes when you

1065
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: sign a player off the street that had some good

1066
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: things happened in his past, but he might be coming

1067
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: back from an injury and that's why he's available, and

1068
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: then you see what you can get with those kinds

1069
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: of guys.

1070
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 5: Damius Thomas is at the biggest Texans draft deadline deal

1071
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 5: that you guys can think of about.

1072
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: That's the one that's maybe the only one I can

1073
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: think of.

1074
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 3: You know, that was a big one in twenty eighteen,

1075
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: when they lost Will Fuller and they had to go

1076
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 3: for they traded a fourth for Damarius Thomas. And you know,

1077
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: he was a player that everybody knew, right, he was

1078
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: a pretty big name.

1079
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: And then he goes back to Denver.

1080
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, his first game as a Texans catches a touchdown.

1081
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: It was weird because he had always been a Bronco.

1082
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: He seemed kind of shell shocked that he got traded.

1083
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Seemed like it came as a surprise.

1084
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 5: It was such a weird week for him too, to

1085
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 5: go back like that.

1086
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'd spent his whole career there. I think

1087
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: he thought he was going to retire there. He'd had

1088
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: no inkling it was going to happen, you know, And

1089
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: then he goes back, has to play there. It was

1090
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: kind of an emotional game for him. It was great

1091
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: for the Texans because losing Wilfuller, I think everybody was

1092
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: dooming gloom, like, what's going to happen at this wide

1093
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: receiver group, the late Marius to the late Damarius Thomas.

1094
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: I got to interview him too, and he had such

1095
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: a great story. So yeah, but we did go back

1096
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: to Denver and they had to welcome back to Marius sign,

1097
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: which I was like, they made that really fast.

1098
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 5: Hey, we put a man on the moon in nineteen

1099
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 5: sixty nine, we can make a sign for somebody too high.

1100
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, Man, these printing costs and these printing

1101
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: turnarounds are tough. A man on the moon is one thing.

1102
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: But they didn't have to do m Maybe they had

1103
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Speaker 1: to do Amazon Prime like same day shipping to get

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Speaker 1: that there.

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Speaker 4: Maybe to get it. I have a friend and this

1106
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 4: is embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: He is one of the people who thinks that we

1108
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Speaker 3: didn't really go to them.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people like that.

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Speaker 5: Mark. I hate.

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Speaker 2: I hate to break it to Yes, they're all yes, but.

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Speaker 4: I saw it on tv DP. It must have.

1113
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Speaker 1: Happened faked, could have been a deep fake, of course fake.

1114
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Speaker 4: Of course it could have been.

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Speaker 1: Believe that because I went to Purdue, which has the

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Speaker 1: Neil Armstrong School of Engineering.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not one of those people. Neil arms Wrong

1118
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Speaker 2: win to Purdue, so it's not me.

1119
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Speaker 3: But I'm just I think too many people have to

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Speaker 3: be in on it to have not blown the cover

1121
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: of this. No conspiracy cannot keep their mouths shut over time.

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Speaker 3: I understand like being able to keep it on under

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Speaker 3: wraps for a few weeks maybe, but over time, years

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Speaker 3: and years later in alcohol and whatever, and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden.

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Speaker 4: You know I was part of that shoot.

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Speaker 5: Let's bottle that idea and let's bring it back next week.

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Speaker 5: Let's get into the JFK.

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Speaker 4: Y things that you never thought you'd here on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 2: Why not. Let's just roll with it.

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Speaker 4: The more thing is relevant because NASA here, all right,

1132
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Speaker 4: we've got the.

1133
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Speaker 1: Space that all right, I don't even know how to

1134
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Speaker 1: wrap up this show, but that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. And we got John Harris not talking

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Speaker 1: about Man on the Moon or JFK next with Texans matchups,

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Speaker 1: so don't go anywhere