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Speaker 1: am Greg saw man Us here too. What is going on? Everybody?
Speaker 1: What's up? Prey now? Much crazy? What did? What did you?
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Speaker 1: at one point, you know, the start I was trying
Speaker 1: to I was trying to be kind m hm, damn
Speaker 1: it all right, well man, alright, anyway, on the show today,
Speaker 1: really uh fun show because we have a lot of
Speaker 1: different things were kind of putting our hands into today,
Speaker 1: which is cool. Frank and Iri and Eric are gonna
Speaker 1: try to get to the bottom of the Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: heat because I don't I don't, I don't get it. Um,
Speaker 1: any of you will change as we get closer to
Speaker 1: actual draft days or the majority of draft days. But
Speaker 1: there's something going on, and I'm talking to a bunch
Speaker 1: of people about this, So the three of us gonna
Speaker 1: try to figure that out. Um. We're also going to
Speaker 1: talk about some of the PPR running backs because we
Speaker 1: mentioned tore coing a lot with Eric Chris Thompson, I'm
Speaker 1: all over. There's a bunch of other guys that people
Speaker 1: are talking about theo Rick of course too. But where
Speaker 1: should you draft these guys? We spoke yesterday how I
Speaker 1: really liked Chris Thompson or two days ago Chris Thompson
Speaker 1: five rounds later or four hours later than Christi McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: But where are the other guys going? So we wanted
Speaker 1: to get into that as well. I have a strategy
Speaker 1: conversation I really want to ask Frank and Eric about.
Speaker 1: They don't know what it is, so they're gonna give
Speaker 1: us their honest and objective thoughts, and of course we're
Speaker 1: gonna start of today's fact away Frank. Yeah, So it
Speaker 1: has to do with somebody who is in the news
Speaker 1: and part of the reason why I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people were very excited about him coming into the
Speaker 1: draft season, and that's has to do with Doug Baldwin.
Speaker 1: Last year, Russell Wilson had seventy three attempts in the
Speaker 1: red zone. Forty two of those red zone targets are gone.
Speaker 1: Is if the eight percent of his red zone attempts
Speaker 1: that includes Jimmy Graham who had twenty six, Paul Richardson
Speaker 1: who had eleven, Luke Wilson who had five, fifty eight
Speaker 1: percent of the Seahawks red zones targets are gone from
Speaker 1: last season to this season. That's part of the reason
Speaker 1: why we were all very excited about Doug Baldwin. Now
Speaker 1: we kind of have to, I think, to flake that
Speaker 1: a little bit with this knee injury news. Of course,
Speaker 1: the latest news is he hurt his knee, and from
Speaker 1: every beat reporter, from Pete Carroll, it's not a day
Speaker 1: to day thing. He's gonna be out for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. And when it comes to knee soreness, if
Speaker 1: the soreness doesn't and E y, you can certainly speak
Speaker 1: more to this, um, given you're much more sore than
Speaker 1: we are. UM, but given these stories, if it doesn't
Speaker 1: I guess go down, the swelling doesn't go down, ultimately
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have some sort of surgery, whether
Speaker 1: it's art arthur scot excuse me, arthroscopic or even more severe.
Speaker 1: How concerned should we be about this Doug Baldwin injury.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you gotta wait and to find
Speaker 1: out what it is. A knees or tricky, uh, especially
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver, I mean, anyone playing football knees tricky.
Speaker 1: You know, he relies on that with his speed, his
Speaker 1: starting and stopping, his cutting in and out of routes
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I mean it's something that
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the most important joint a receiver has
Speaker 1: is his knee joint and it being hurt. Um. I'm
Speaker 1: not so scared of him missing a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I don't think Baldwin needed to play in the preseason.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, he knows the playbook. Kim and
Speaker 1: Russell have an obvious connection. If he misses the entire preseason,
Speaker 1: I'm not scared of him. I still have him pretty high.
Speaker 1: But I'm you know, like this is making me cautious.
Speaker 1: I guess cautious. Okay, So Frank, let me kind of
Speaker 1: follow up Whateveric was saying. He knows the playbook. New
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator though, and we said all of last year
Speaker 1: we're going to note when there's new offensive coordinators and
Speaker 1: just not expect the same thing. We repeated the mantra
Speaker 1: over and over and over again, helping of a deal.
Speaker 1: It is is it for you that Dug Ballin's out
Speaker 1: for the next three weeks or so? Listen, He's right, obviously,
Speaker 1: bald and Russell Wilson could do anything together. Just mind control.
Speaker 1: How serious is this for you? I'm worried and I
Speaker 1: tweeted about that yesterday. Drink. Any time a player misses
Speaker 1: time in training camp doesn't have the ability to get
Speaker 1: up to snuff physically, let alone, you know, not only
Speaker 1: learning the offense from Brian Schottenheimer what we expect to
Speaker 1: be honestly a very boring offense. What's going to make
Speaker 1: it exciting is the fact that Russell Wilson is part
Speaker 1: of it. But Bryan Schottenheimer and interesting offense are two
Speaker 1: terms that we've never really put together. So it sucks
Speaker 1: a little bit that he's not going to be in
Speaker 1: there learning it. And I feel like any time players
Speaker 1: miss training camp, it's kind of like they start the
Speaker 1: actual regular season a little bit gimpie. Maybe they get
Speaker 1: off the slow starts. Maybe you know what dr Ay
Speaker 1: tells us about guys coming back off injuries, maybe they
Speaker 1: start to compensate a little bit more. Right, so you're
Speaker 1: compensating for one knee, You're putting a little bit more
Speaker 1: pressure on one leg. That could lead to even more injuries.
Speaker 1: Eis absolutely right about like needing your knee as a
Speaker 1: wide receiver is probably the most important part of your
Speaker 1: leg at the position, I mean being able to cut,
Speaker 1: being able to jump and you know, catch these contested
Speaker 1: passes and stuff. So I was very, very excited about
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin. Um, I didn't think that he would get
Speaker 1: back to the fourteen touchdowns that he had three years ago,
Speaker 1: but I felt there was a chance for him to
Speaker 1: come close to that. I think, you know, double digit
Speaker 1: touchdowns could have been within reach, especially with all those
Speaker 1: red zone targets now available, not just red zone targets,
Speaker 1: all around targets. I mean, you know, Jimmy Graham had
Speaker 1: ninety eight overall targets last season. Paul Richardson had eighty targets.
Speaker 1: So there were a lot of targets up for grads
Speaker 1: this year with Doug Baldwin, and I think we all
Speaker 1: kind of expect now that the Seahawks defense is not
Speaker 1: gonna be as good as it has been in years past,
Speaker 1: so they're gonna be in more shootouts. The forty niners
Speaker 1: have a good offense, the Rams have a good offense.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be higher scoring games in the NFC West
Speaker 1: that we're not really used to seeing. So I was
Speaker 1: very very excited about Doug Baldwin. I've tempered expectations a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not gonna drop him too far in
Speaker 1: the rankings. Might move t Y Hilton ahead of him,
Speaker 1: but he's still going to be in that top twelve range.
Speaker 1: For me, it does worry me, and it honestly it
Speaker 1: does suck because he was a guy was targeting, so Eric,
Speaker 1: I want to throw it to you. How forward does
Speaker 1: he fall? I know you said gonna be a little
Speaker 1: bit conservative. I was also targeting Doug Baldwin. And maybe
Speaker 1: there's a discount here, right like, maybe he falls far enough.
Speaker 1: There's a legitimate discount in the draft for him, given
Speaker 1: the connection with Russell Wilson, you feel comfortable taking him? Where?
Speaker 1: Where do you? Where is that spot right now? I
Speaker 1: know you're you're need even research. Where are you taking
Speaker 1: Doug Balding right now? I think I have my wide
Speaker 1: receiver fourteen. I'm not moving him at all at this point.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we got to find out what
Speaker 1: it is. You know, is a c L, is an
Speaker 1: mc L? Is it bruising and swelling? You know? And
Speaker 1: and and each injury is different. You know, some guys
Speaker 1: bounced back quicker, like give me not. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a person that has has always healed quickly. Um I've
Speaker 1: I'm always been a person that can still perform when
Speaker 1: I'm banged up, or when I'm sore, or even when
Speaker 1: I'm hurt. So you know, we don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm bald. Was the guy that you see is pre reliable.
Speaker 1: He might be one of the most reliable wide receivers
Speaker 1: in the last five years. And uh, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: moving him. I'm not doing anything yet. You know, I
Speaker 1: know there's not a lot of stuff coming out of
Speaker 1: training camp is just getting going, and every time something happens,
Speaker 1: everyone wants to hit the panic button. But just just
Speaker 1: take a breath and relax. And if you've already drafted
Speaker 1: him and he's on your team, then maybe take two breaths.
Speaker 1: But you know it's uh, let's just wait and find
Speaker 1: out and see what happens. Do you know the wise
Speaker 1: words relax? Yeah, And what Uy said about him being
Speaker 1: a reliable receiver to last season, he's finished between wide
Speaker 1: receiver eight and wide receiver thirteen. So he's been incredibly
Speaker 1: consistent and he's never exceeded a hundred and twenty five targets.
Speaker 1: To me, I thought that he was going to be
Speaker 1: on pace to shattered that this season, and given health,
Speaker 1: I could have seen him in the one and fifty
Speaker 1: plus range this year. Even everything I said about the
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense and how I think they're gonna be in
Speaker 1: more shootouts this season. You know the phone lines before
Speaker 1: we continue, gentlemen, eight four, four, four, three seven nine,
Speaker 1: let's hit up Shan in New York. What's Sean? Hey? Guys,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Great? Man? All right? I got
Speaker 1: two questions, if you guys can get to a real
Speaker 1: quick both about the NFC West. I asked this question before,
Speaker 1: but I never got a solid answer. Why would Wilson
Speaker 1: so high as he's the third or fourth highest rated
Speaker 1: quarterback there if he doesn't have Paul Richardson or Jimmy
Speaker 1: Graham like last year and he's had a terrible offensive wine.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's start there. Frank I, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw it to you. The offensive line improved, no doubt.
Speaker 1: D J. Flucker a good run blocker. Uh. They traded
Speaker 1: for Dwayne Brown last season. He's their left tackle. So
Speaker 1: what about the other weapons that are gone? You named
Speaker 1: him all a few moments ago Jimmy Graham, Doug Ballin's hurt,
Speaker 1: Paul Richardson's gone, Tyler Locket's always hurt. Why is Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson rank so highly? Yeah, I have him ranked as
Speaker 1: my QB two right now, and I think part of
Speaker 1: it is the rushing floor that he gives you every
Speaker 1: single season. For me, at least four hundred eighty nine
Speaker 1: rushing yards in five of the six seasons he's played it.
Speaker 1: And not only that, he's include improved his passing attempts
Speaker 1: two seasons in a row now. And given everything I
Speaker 1: just said, their defense is not gonna be great. I mean,
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas one South. This is not the legion and
Speaker 1: boom of boom defense that we've seen in years past.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson finished as QB two last year in points
Speaker 1: per game, and that was before he lost even more
Speaker 1: pieces to this defense. So I think they're gonna be trailing.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to put even more on
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. As much as they want to run the football,
Speaker 1: they might be more effective at doing that from just
Speaker 1: one running back this year, or Shad Penny I think
Speaker 1: will be that workhorse running back. But they're still going
Speaker 1: to have to put up points, and I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna fall on the back and the legs of Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about the weapons. To me, the
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks make the weapons around them look even better,
Speaker 1: and I think Russell Wilson is already in that category.
Speaker 1: Challenge a second question, But all right, and now sticking
Speaker 1: at the end of the quest, you know the Niners
Speaker 1: got a pretty good offense. Is Jimmy Garoppolo a top
Speaker 1: ten quarterback this year? You think with Carson and McKinnon
Speaker 1: as a pass catcher at the backfield, that one to
Speaker 1: use Jimmy g rank for you a top ten quarterback? No,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's I mean, I think it's
Speaker 1: insane people that are taking him that high crazy. I
Speaker 1: mean it's a five game sample. And the big thing
Speaker 1: is this is when he comes in, he's been a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback his whole life. There is no tape on him.
Speaker 1: He didn't play, he's never played. So we had five
Speaker 1: games where there was no tape on him. He came
Speaker 1: in and like, look, I mean, he did look good
Speaker 1: and he looked like he had a good command of
Speaker 1: the offense. Even though just coming in and learning it
Speaker 1: right away. McKinnon is obviously an improvement. You know, I
Speaker 1: think Kittle has a big jump forward. Our song is
Speaker 1: super reliable. Uh, Marky's good one, I think is gonna
Speaker 1: have a big year or you know, or a good
Speaker 1: year for for Marky's good one. But people that are
Speaker 1: driving him that higher, they're crazy. And everyone's saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: ser frances is gonna have a good offense. That is
Speaker 1: that is death. That is. No one knows who's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good offense. No one knows who's going to
Speaker 1: be a good d ends and trying to predict it
Speaker 1: is insane, even harder on the defensive side. So just
Speaker 1: just do it by skill and right now. Jimmy g
Speaker 1: is a good quarterback, but I mean driving him in
Speaker 1: the top ten to me is absolute insanity. All right,
Speaker 1: So there you go, Jimmy G not at outside quarterback
Speaker 1: according to Eric Young, Frank you a great I have
Speaker 1: him just outside my top time with him at twelve,
Speaker 1: But I will say I'll take him over guys like
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, guys that we've seen
Speaker 1: do it before. I think they're just yes. While they
Speaker 1: have a higher floor. I just don't think Stafford Rivers
Speaker 1: have the ceiling. I'll take the unknown of Jimmy g
Speaker 1: over those guys, but he's not outside of my top ten.
Speaker 1: Right now, I have met wealth of the world. All
Speaker 1: right there, you'll continue on the phone lines and talk
Speaker 1: to Stephen in Massachusetts. What's going on, Steve? Uh? My
Speaker 1: question is about so I don't know if you guys noticed, uh,
Speaker 1: Joss Stackson he got injured. And I know that you guys,
Speaker 1: especially on the show, like you guys are big on
Speaker 1: Jamison crowd or so I'm just wondering and if I
Speaker 1: can't like, because you know, drafts are usually about like
Speaker 1: a month away. If I can't get Jamison Crowder, is
Speaker 1: there somebody else that I should be looking into as
Speaker 1: far as like the passing game? Or is it just
Speaker 1: strictly Jamison Crowder. So, I think it's a great question.
Speaker 1: I think it leads into exactly what we wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about here, Steve um And and that's Chris Thompson. Right.
Speaker 1: So Jamison Crowder is the number one guy. I think
Speaker 1: he fits really really well with Alex Smith. I know
Speaker 1: you I was high on HM last year. I think
Speaker 1: everybody was high on Jameson Crowder last year, and Josh
Speaker 1: Dockson is to me, frank much like DeVante Parker and
Speaker 1: much like for Sean Parriman. And they all stink, everyone
Speaker 1: of them. You don't have they Parker less, but they all,
Speaker 1: they all are not consistent enough to use. And I
Speaker 1: was a Josh Dockson guy all of last year. He's
Speaker 1: are so the most logical player you'd go to replace him,
Speaker 1: as Paul Richardson. But Paul Richardson, from every thing that
Speaker 1: you have read coming out of Washington, he's really struggled.
Speaker 1: He's really struggled. And this offense with a new quarterback
Speaker 1: in Alex Smith is not meant for people in my opinion,
Speaker 1: like like Josh Dockson and like Paul Richardson, It's meant
Speaker 1: for Jamison crowd Jordan read if he's healthy, and then
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson. But Chris Thompson is a more interesting case
Speaker 1: that unfortunately I want to even realize because I think
Speaker 1: he's uber talented. The dude knows how to catch a
Speaker 1: pass and just go. He's a heck of a pass
Speaker 1: blocker and he's awesome by all senses of the word.
Speaker 1: The problem is he's never been healthy back in college
Speaker 1: and in his first few years in the NFL, he
Speaker 1: has not been able to remain healthy, missing the second
Speaker 1: half of last year. Now he's come back and you
Speaker 1: read a report coming out of practice saying he looks great,
Speaker 1: he looks really really awesome. But then he says, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not close to and j Gruden says, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm working my way. I'm working my way back on him.
Speaker 1: But he looks good, and then the report goes, well,
Speaker 1: he looks amazing. The next report is he's not going
Speaker 1: to be a hundred percent until November. What does all
Speaker 1: of this mean, Eric, when it comes to Chris Thompson,
Speaker 1: w it means like every year you gotta worry about
Speaker 1: him getting hurt. He's a small guy, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and being a running back, a guy that's either going
Speaker 1: out and taking a tackle or or sitting in and
Speaker 1: and having you know, six ft linebackers run into him.
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna get hurt. I mean he, like
Speaker 1: you said to your point, is he gets hurt. I
Speaker 1: mean he's never been able to stay healthy. Uh. Last
Speaker 1: year I think they needed to rely on him more.
Speaker 1: P Rhyme was the guy that I was super high on.
Speaker 1: He let him down and they ended up playing Chris Thompson.
Speaker 1: They were running them between the tackles and stuff. If
Speaker 1: Darius Guys is who I think he's going to be
Speaker 1: and who who most people think he's going to be,
Speaker 1: then Chris Thompson is good. But him not saying he's
Speaker 1: not going to be a healthy until November, he's kind
Speaker 1: of terrifying. Yeah, he's I get it. I completely get it.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people that are like you that
Speaker 1: feel the same way about Darius Guys. And that was
Speaker 1: the conversation when it came to Chris Thompson in that
Speaker 1: if Guys is this pass catcher and this good pass blocker,
Speaker 1: what is Thompson's role? How scared are you by the
Speaker 1: reports that you have read and the news on Guys, Frankie,
Speaker 1: I am very worried about that. Specifically, something that he
Speaker 1: said is he was talking about he's gonna be worried
Speaker 1: to get tackled by bigger players, like any time that's
Speaker 1: already in the back of your mind as a running back.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mentioned it. This guy is only five eight,
Speaker 1: he's below two pounds. Yes, He's incredibly explosive. He scored
Speaker 1: a tough a ton of touchdowns. Last year. He was
Speaker 1: number one among running backs in yards per touch, so
Speaker 1: we know how explosive he can be. But anytime you
Speaker 1: already have that mindset there that I have to worry
Speaker 1: about being tackled in the NFL, and you have to
Speaker 1: worry about, you know, making these jukes as a running back,
Speaker 1: you're worried about you know, Oh, am I gonna am
Speaker 1: I gonna sprain this ligament in my knee? Am I
Speaker 1: gonna worried about having a broken leg? That worries me
Speaker 1: a lot, man, especially when you look at a guy
Speaker 1: like him, his ADP. He's in the seventh eighth round.
Speaker 1: So it's not like, al right, some of these not
Speaker 1: it's not nothing. It's not one of these other PPR
Speaker 1: backs that we're taken in the twelve thirte whatever. It
Speaker 1: might be some guys that we think have upside. You
Speaker 1: have to give some drift capital to get Chris Thompson.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty worried about this. We're gonna get more into
Speaker 1: that draft capital with the PTR running macks. A little
Speaker 1: bit later on we come back. I want to dive
Speaker 1: into Nolan Gordon because something is up here. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. Maybe e Y as the answer,
Speaker 1: Maybe Frankie does. I certainly don't mean Gordon. Next. Fantasy
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Speaker 1: Frank stamfle Greg Susman here with you and I like
Speaker 1: at this time of the year, especially in my lead.
Speaker 1: That's an auction where do not have to worry about
Speaker 1: someone's sniping me in anyway I like to. I talked
Speaker 1: with a lot of my friends. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: what do you think about this guy? Would be about
Speaker 1: that guy? How much does he go for? In a
Speaker 1: name that we we've thrown around recently has been Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1: The way the thing about Melvin Gordon and the most
Speaker 1: common reaction that I get, I'm out on that guy.
Speaker 1: Oh why you? I don't know. You know, there's just
Speaker 1: a bunch of other guys I like better, like okay.
Speaker 1: And then I talked to somebody in my snake league
Speaker 1: who I'm most likely going to pick one pick ahead
Speaker 1: of him, and we're kind of talking. I have no
Speaker 1: reason why I don't care. Who do you like? My honestly,
Speaker 1: if if Melvin Gordon is there, and depending on who's
Speaker 1: not there, like I would strongly consider Melvin Gordon, and
Speaker 1: I don't like him. I'd rather have Dalvin Cook or
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette. And I'm trying to figure out why. Like
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook coming off the A c L. I know
Speaker 1: that he's on everybody's hype train this year. I get it.
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette. The entire Jacksonville offense runs around this guy.
Speaker 1: Nobody gets more carries in the league than Leonard Fournette.
Speaker 1: And when gets where goal line carries Leonard Fournette and
Speaker 1: I get it. But Melvin Gordon all he has done
Speaker 1: the last two years but twelve touchdowns each year. He
Speaker 1: has seen his receptions increase each year. He has seen
Speaker 1: his yards per carry increase in this day the same
Speaker 1: right around three point nine. That's the big X, right,
Speaker 1: only three point nine yards of carry when you want
Speaker 1: running back to the average more like four and a half.
Speaker 1: But with the amount of carries the Melvin Gordon gets
Speaker 1: the amount of touches that he gets, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You could say that year two is a fluke, fine,
Speaker 1: but then he did it again in year three and
Speaker 1: there's no one on this team I'm worried about. I
Speaker 1: don't care about Austin Ekeler, I don't care about Damian Williams,
Speaker 1: I don't care about Justin Jackson. It means nothing to me.
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon has gained the trust of this coaching staff
Speaker 1: with everybody loved last year with Anthony Lynn. He has
Speaker 1: gained the trust of Philip Rivers. This dude's gonna be
Speaker 1: out there all three downs, touching the ball all three downs.
Speaker 1: He is more And we said this downstairs, Frank. He
Speaker 1: is closer to me with se Kwon Barkley and Kareem
Speaker 1: Harnt than he is to Leonard four Net and Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: What do you think you Yeah, I got him medicine
Speaker 1: running back for that might blow your mind, but like,
Speaker 1: I'm on board with you. I heard him do an
Speaker 1: interview and I can't remember where it was, but he
Speaker 1: I mean, he said, you know the offense is gonna
Speaker 1: be everyone is high on the San Diego office, everyone
Speaker 1: including me. Well you know, okay, yes it does not
Speaker 1: run through Melvin Gordon, but he is the starting running back.
Speaker 1: And brother doesn't want to come off the field. He said,
Speaker 1: he gets piste off when they take him off the field.
Speaker 1: He wants to catch passes, he wants to pass block,
Speaker 1: he wants to do those things. He wants to be
Speaker 1: the guy. That's the guy and the guy I want
Speaker 1: on my team. He's done it, you know every year
Speaker 1: that he's stayed healthy. And there is no running back
Speaker 1: that is immune to that, you know, to that to
Speaker 1: that analysis. Oh well, you know running backs get hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well do So Melvin Gordon is a guy that I love.
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's other leagues out there that and
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of guys that don't want I want
Speaker 1: to play in those leagues because I want Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: on my team. So I couldn't agree more with him,
Speaker 1: frank right, Like, Okay, fine, he hasn't his RB four.
Speaker 1: Most people have him closer to RB six or seven.
Speaker 1: But if you believe it, a guy who cares, right, like,
Speaker 1: who are the three that were in front of America?
Speaker 1: Girly Bell and Johnson and I and I go back
Speaker 1: and forth on Zeke and him, but I just feel
Speaker 1: that San Diego's offense is going to be far superior
Speaker 1: to Dallas. They're gonna stack the box. They don't have
Speaker 1: any receivers in Dallas that anyone is going to worry about.
Speaker 1: So to me, Gordon has got a much easier path
Speaker 1: to more production than Elliott. Alright, so fine, so he
Speaker 1: likes Melvin Gordon over Ezekiel Elliott. Fine. When we started
Speaker 1: this a couple of months ago, I had Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: with Camara ahead of Barkley and with Hunt that was
Speaker 1: a three man crew for me. Since marketing suspension, Camara
Speaker 1: has gone up. No exchange with cream Hunt. Everyone hates
Speaker 1: Andy Reid at some point because they're gonna screw over
Speaker 1: cream Hunt. That doesn't happen with Melvin Gordon. Sure, we
Speaker 1: saw some big games of Austin Ekeler, but you know,
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is the guy, and then they just lose
Speaker 1: the running game and the wise right, so this offense
Speaker 1: doesn't revolve around Melvin Gordon doesn't end. You know, he's
Speaker 1: the man. I don't get it, Frank, I don't get
Speaker 1: it either. And what spurned this discussion was I was
Speaker 1: looking at nff C a d P over the last
Speaker 1: seven days. I mean, these are high stakes draft These
Speaker 1: are some of the best um drafters around really honestly,
Speaker 1: and his ADP slipping to twelve point four eight, He's
Speaker 1: now going to Ryan Leonard Fournette. He's going neck and
Speaker 1: neck with Dalvin Cook. Don't get me wrong, I love
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook a ton. There's no way I could take
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook ahead of Melvin Gordon. You're you would be
Speaker 1: drafting Dalvin Cook and Leonard Fournette to do something we've
Speaker 1: already seen Melvin Gordon do. Last year he was the
Speaker 1: RB five. The year before he was RB seven, and
Speaker 1: he spoke about Leonard Fournette getting all these categories inside
Speaker 1: the twenty on the goal line. Last year, Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: was top three in red zone rushing attempts inside the twenty,
Speaker 1: Top three in rushing attempts inside the ten, Top three
Speaker 1: in rushing attempts inside the five. He is back to
Speaker 1: back years with twelve plus touchdowns. Last year he became
Speaker 1: more of a part in the passing game. He had
Speaker 1: over eighty targets. He had nearly sixty receptions, top ten
Speaker 1: running back in receptions, top ten running back in receiving yards,
Speaker 1: doesn't drop the ball, Oh, he does a score touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He was the third highest scores hit, the third most
Speaker 1: touchdowns of any running back in all of football last year.
Speaker 1: And we're dropping this guy for what. Yeah, and look
Speaker 1: the offensive line, this guy needs to stay healthy. But
Speaker 1: they added Mike Pouncey because they're centered. We were talking
Speaker 1: about last year that when j I had Mike Pouncey
Speaker 1: as his center healthy with the Dolphins offensive line the
Speaker 1: year before, every single time he had and he was amazing.
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that the Chargers at a center
Speaker 1: with a caliber of Mike Pouncey if he can stay healthy.
Speaker 1: And we're pushing Melvin Gordon down the draft board. But
Speaker 1: it surprise you one bit, Greg, if this year in
Speaker 1: a non PPR league, Melvin Gordon outscored Albun Kamara, not
Speaker 1: at all. It wouldn't and Camara over him, he would
Speaker 1: been everything he has as he has PPR understanding, right, right, right, PPR,
Speaker 1: I understand it might be different, Camark, I have eighty
Speaker 1: plus receptions. Do you think, guys that there is this
Speaker 1: there's always a bias against quote unquote non PPR guys, right,
Speaker 1: guys who don't catch passes. I don't know why Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon has his reputation. Is he had fifty eight receptions
Speaker 1: last year that was their first year without Danny Woodhead.
Speaker 1: Doesn't it make sense that his septions would have gone
Speaker 1: up and that's exactly what they did top ten in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm with you. I mean, like, look, every
Speaker 1: team is going to have a running back that backs
Speaker 1: up their workhorse too. Whatever, you'll take Melvin Gordon off
Speaker 1: the field for a couple of plays per game. Austin
Speaker 1: Ekeler is gonna get five to seven touches whatever it
Speaker 1: might be. Like, that's it. I'm guys, I'm with you both.
Speaker 1: I'm really don't get it. I'm really interested to see
Speaker 1: where he goes like in that auction. My first auction
Speaker 1: is officially nineteen days away. Now that's all. I'll have
Speaker 1: some real data back it up. Obviously, the preseason will happen. Uh,
Speaker 1: they'll begin. Hopefully we won't have any injuries. Of course,
Speaker 1: injuries do happen, um, But yeah, I think it's damn interesting, guys.
Speaker 1: And he helped me win two championships last year to
Speaker 1: the Flex League, which e Y and myself will now
Speaker 1: be participating against each other. And then in my home league.
Speaker 1: To remember, I lost David Johnson and Allen Robinson in
Speaker 1: the first week of the season. Both are those were
Speaker 1: both my keepers in my home league. Still won the
Speaker 1: chip and part of that reason was Melvin Gordon. All right,
Speaker 1: so there there you go. Now we mentioned that this
Speaker 1: this phantom theory about Melvin Gordon not being able to
Speaker 1: catch passes, and it's quite frankly, as we said, it's
Speaker 1: not real. It's simply not real. And we said Danny
Speaker 1: Woodhead was gone. What it went to Baltimore last year
Speaker 1: and got injured Week one. Now you always look for
Speaker 1: pass catching running backs and a late round fire as
Speaker 1: a pass catching running back, maybe Buck Allen, Right, like
Speaker 1: people talking about Conetiction, people going abou Kenetiction, they're talking
Speaker 1: about certainly Alex Collins, your boy should what people will
Speaker 1: be talking about Buck Allen. Yeah. I brought him up
Speaker 1: because because a DP, you're getting the guy dirt cheap,
Speaker 1: and he's going at a DP two oh four. And
Speaker 1: last year, you know, as much as we wanted Alex
Speaker 1: Collins to be the workhorse, it really took until the
Speaker 1: second half of the season. Vorries Allan. Buck Allen was
Speaker 1: like a thorn in the side of all Alex Collins owners.
Speaker 1: For a large portion of last year. He had nearly
Speaker 1: fifty receptions. I think he's going to he's gonna have
Speaker 1: a pass catching role once again. I still think it
Speaker 1: doesn't worry me much about Alex Collins because I think
Speaker 1: he'll be on the field so much that you know
Speaker 1: he'll fall into around forty receptions. But where Buck Allen
Speaker 1: is going compared to some of these other guys, Like
Speaker 1: you'll ask me Chris Thompson in the seventh or eighth
Speaker 1: round or Buck Allen outside the top two hundred. Who
Speaker 1: would rather take a shot on. It's like a PPR
Speaker 1: back this year. Take the value on Buck Allan ten
Speaker 1: times out of ten. I know people want Kenneth Dixon
Speaker 1: to be a thing, but the guy has already banged up.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been able to stay healthy. I don't know
Speaker 1: how much trust this coaching staff has in him whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Buck Allen was getting red zone attempts last year. He was,
Speaker 1: you know, getting a ton of receptions. Might have not
Speaker 1: been getting a ton of yards, but they trust buck Allen.
Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said for that. You
Speaker 1: want any injuries there in Buck Allen, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: some of you gotta be interested in a PBR for sure.
Speaker 1: He's proven that he's got those chops. He can catch
Speaker 1: the ball well out of the backfield. They trust him
Speaker 1: in past protection and when he was the guy, you
Speaker 1: know last year, I mean, he was a guy that
Speaker 1: he looked pretty good in kind of all aspects of
Speaker 1: the game. I think Collins is going to be the starter.
Speaker 1: That's how they're gonna start out with. And I'm one
Speaker 1: of the guys that wants Dixon to be a thing too.
Speaker 1: He would flash and you would see him and he
Speaker 1: would just kind of like blow you away physically at
Speaker 1: what he could do. But he hasn't been able to
Speaker 1: put it together, and he's always hurt. Now he's they're
Speaker 1: saying he's hurt again already. So yeah, Buck Allen, like
Speaker 1: Frank was saying, the value is just it's too good
Speaker 1: to pass up. And you know someone like Thompson who's
Speaker 1: already hurt. Um, you know, like I take Allen later
Speaker 1: on in the draft over him as well. Okay, So
Speaker 1: so so there you are taking about Allan over Chris Thompson,
Speaker 1: the guy that has already hurt. Go with other PPR guys.
Speaker 1: I want to try to figure out where we go. Eric,
Speaker 1: what are your guys? Last year was Terrek Cohen who
Speaker 1: came on strong and you bought in. I'm a Jordan
Speaker 1: Howard guy. Everybody knows that about me. But there's no
Speaker 1: reason that these two can't exist. I know you're a
Speaker 1: Howard guy as well. Three. Cohen is going very very
Speaker 1: highly in draft. People are seeing what creem hunting in
Speaker 1: the passing game last year. They see Matt Neggie being
Speaker 1: the head coach and let listen to Rick Cohen's gonna
Speaker 1: be awesome. You how Highed you feel comfortable draft and Cohen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's getting a little too rich for my blood.
Speaker 1: I believe that that he is a special player. Um,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's gonna get a guy that
Speaker 1: can touch the ball more than you know, ten times
Speaker 1: a game. And you know, if you want to roll
Speaker 1: the dice and having high production, if a guy with
Speaker 1: a guy only touching the ball ten times, I think
Speaker 1: they're going to throw the ball a lot. I think
Speaker 1: they're going to use both tight ends. I think Howard
Speaker 1: is going to be the goal line guy. He's the
Speaker 1: guy that they're going to rely on to be the
Speaker 1: running back. And I believe that Trt Cone is going
Speaker 1: to be you know, there's gonna be times and I mean,
Speaker 1: we know this is gonna happen. He's gonna do something
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He's gonna rip off some big screen
Speaker 1: pass for seventy five yards and everyone's gonna freak out.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go up even higher, which just means I'm
Speaker 1: just probably not gonna have him on any of my teams.
Speaker 1: I like watching him play football, and I think he's
Speaker 1: a special football player, but I think in that system,
Speaker 1: his body type, um, he's just not going to touch
Speaker 1: the ball enough for me to target him where he's going.
Speaker 1: I like him, like, don't get me wrong, but it's
Speaker 1: just his his draft value is is it's way out
Speaker 1: of whack of what I think he's going to be.
Speaker 1: I agree with every word he just said, every word
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, especially the price that you have to pay.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's going inside the top sixty right now
Speaker 1: in NFFC draft, so that would make him a fifth
Speaker 1: round pick, which is crazy. But what people are looking
Speaker 1: at the template for him to pay off that draft
Speaker 1: price and maybe even surpass it, is looking at what
Speaker 1: guys like Duke Johnson did last year, Guys like Chris
Speaker 1: Thompson who on a per game basis, Chris Thompson was
Speaker 1: RB eleven regardless standard PPR because he scored a lot
Speaker 1: of touchdowns. He's incredibly explosive, and we know what kind
Speaker 1: of explosiveness Trekon has. Remember last year, Gregg, in the
Speaker 1: first month, we were talking about should we trade Jordan
Speaker 1: Howard to get trek Cohen because of how explosive and
Speaker 1: how often a rate he was scoring touchdowns and how
Speaker 1: many targets he was getting in the past game. Last year,
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson in half point PPR formats finishes the RB fifteen.
Speaker 1: He needed ninety three targets, seventy four receptions, se receiving yards,
Speaker 1: and seven total touchdowns to make it happened. It really
Speaker 1: comes down to do you think trereco and can come
Speaker 1: close to kind of duplicating numbers like that in this
Speaker 1: Bears offense. And I leaned towards what U I said.
Speaker 1: I think, Look, you don't bring in a guy like
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson, you don't bring in a Tray Burton, you
Speaker 1: don't draft and Anthony Miller. You don't talk up Lorton
Speaker 1: Howard right now in training camps of three down back
Speaker 1: and then still expect those kind of numbers as Treco
Speaker 1: And so I'm kind of in the camp where you've
Speaker 1: got the star if you have to use a top
Speaker 1: sixty pick on Thorecon and that's just way too high
Speaker 1: in my opinion. But you wrote, U, Duke Johnson. You
Speaker 1: wrought up Duke Johnson and everything that he did last year,
Speaker 1: but everything needed to break right for Duke Johnson to
Speaker 1: get there. I agree with you. Well, question, is canna
Speaker 1: happen again? Duke for Duke Johnson? Because I know, going
Speaker 1: in the last year, a bunch of people were off
Speaker 1: with Duke Johnson. They just kind of didn't want to
Speaker 1: get in on that, you know, and week one, the
Speaker 1: lines of it as a wide receiver, We're all like,
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? And as the year
Speaker 1: went along, Frame mentioned it, everything felt right. The rounds
Speaker 1: were down in every game, and the utilize are passing
Speaker 1: down back. But this Cleveland offense is very very different now,
Speaker 1: right that you have so many more weapons. You have
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon back, maybe, you have Jarvis Landry for sure,
Speaker 1: you have Carlos Hide, you have Nick Chubb, you have
Speaker 1: David and Joko Y're older, you have Tyrod Taylor. All
Speaker 1: this is just more. I don't it's quantity. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the quality will be. But I'll say this,
Speaker 1: I'm higher and Jarvis Landry than most. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about that with you probably another day. But when
Speaker 1: it comes to Duke Johnson, Frankie, can he repeat, can
Speaker 1: everything goes right as it did last year to go
Speaker 1: where his draft stock currently is. I don't think that
Speaker 1: everything can go right as it did for Duke Johnson
Speaker 1: last year. I mentioned he had seven total touchdowns. Isaiic
Speaker 1: ll only had two touchdowns for the Browns last year.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen again. So they went out and
Speaker 1: they got Carlos Hide. They drafted Nick Chubb for a reason.
Speaker 1: So those guys are I think, are gonna be in
Speaker 1: there closer to the goal line inside the twenties. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, Duke Johnson will score his touchdowns. Maybe
Speaker 1: he'll get a handful of five or six. But I'll
Speaker 1: say this, at Duke Johnson's price at pick eighty nine
Speaker 1: right now, going around the top ninety and a PPR league,
Speaker 1: I'm much more apt to take him than I am
Speaker 1: to take it to Ricon. And it's not a knock
Speaker 1: against the ricohen But I still think, like everything they've
Speaker 1: said about Duke Johnson is he's going to continue to
Speaker 1: have his role ninety three targets. That might be a
Speaker 1: little bit steep, but I still think sixty plus perceptions
Speaker 1: is within the within the realm of possibility for him.
Speaker 1: We've seen Tyrod Taylor throw a bunch of Shawn McCoy
Speaker 1: when he was playing with Buffalo. Whether he's in there,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, having a guy like Duke Johnson next to
Speaker 1: you as a security blanket, I don't worry about that.
Speaker 1: I just worry about him maybe replicating the touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: don't think he gets there. Maybe he gets four or five,
Speaker 1: but sixty plus perceptions is still doable for Duke Johnson.
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I don't even I don't even want
Speaker 1: him at that price. I think it's even rich from
Speaker 1: my blood both three around around, I'm gonna go into
Speaker 1: the four point PPR and a half point. I understand
Speaker 1: why you might do it right, but in this nff
Speaker 1: C a d P, if you're getting him around pick
Speaker 1: ninety sixty plus reception and is out of a guy
Speaker 1: in the what would that be like the eighth ninth
Speaker 1: round as your flanks y R before. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: In a PPR league, I don't think he's getting sixty.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the team like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor through to Lashaw Mccoyla Sean McCoy didn't come
Speaker 1: off the field, There's two running backs that are probably
Speaker 1: going to play in front of Duke Johnson, and who
Speaker 1: do they have catching short passes. Last year, nobody, nobody.
Speaker 1: So now they've got if Gordon plays and they got
Speaker 1: him on the outside, They've got Landry, they got Joeku.
Speaker 1: Carlo's hyde proof last year he can catch the ball.
Speaker 1: So you mean I don't know, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think he even I don't think he'll even touch fifty.
Speaker 1: And for me, like he's another again the Duke Johnson
Speaker 1: is a player that I like. I think in the
Speaker 1: right system, on the right team, he's a guy that
Speaker 1: that could produce um. But this happens every year though,
Speaker 1: you know, because of circumstances. They get more plays, they
Speaker 1: get more touches, they get more looks. This year, I
Speaker 1: don't feel he's gonna get that just because of the
Speaker 1: wealth of talent there now. He's not going to get
Speaker 1: that unless all those injuries happen again, which is something
Speaker 1: he can't bank on, but is now his draft stock
Speaker 1: is way up because of what he did last year,
Speaker 1: because of the perfect circumstances. It's not gonna happen again.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have him on any of my teams either,
Speaker 1: even though I like him as a player. What that
Speaker 1: doesn't know the one So I agree again everything you said.
Speaker 1: The one caveat I have is they didn't give him
Speaker 1: a contract extension like the Browns despite signing Carlos I,
Speaker 1: despite drafting Nick Chump or before that, even they gave
Speaker 1: dud Johnson this pretty large extension. I have to imagine
Speaker 1: they're going to use him and utilize him as much
Speaker 1: as they should. Write you, why when they're paying the dude.
Speaker 1: I'm not having anything that Cleveland Browns do in the
Speaker 1: front office steer any of my decision. They drafted Johnny
Speaker 1: Manzel number one, so like I don't. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know it's all different staff and this, that
Speaker 1: and the other. I mean, they have never proven to
Speaker 1: me over the last ten years is that they can
Speaker 1: make a good decision. So until he's on the field,
Speaker 1: you know, fifty percent at a time, that to me
Speaker 1: is a stupid contract. Then you then go out and
Speaker 1: give all that money to Carlos hein and you drop
Speaker 1: a running back, right. I just thinking at full point
Speaker 1: PPR on five with at half point guys that have
Speaker 1: the starting role like Lynch Jamal Williams, I'll lean that
Speaker 1: way full point. I get it back with your calls next.
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Speaker 1: stick with us, because I do want to hit to
Speaker 1: your calls. More PPR running backs and some updated news
Speaker 1: as well. But I wanted to hit into the strategy
Speaker 1: conversation that happened in my league last night, um because
Speaker 1: I thought we found him calling ground and they got
Speaker 1: text message from where my buddies. It was just like,
Speaker 1: this is stupid. Okay, you can have your opinion it's fine,
Speaker 1: like whatever, it's not that it's not that big of
Speaker 1: a deal. This person likes to make most things a
Speaker 1: big deal. Whatever. So it really bothered some in our
Speaker 1: league that the last place team last season was playing
Speaker 1: a team that was fighting for a playoff spot. Last place.
Speaker 1: He's mathematically eliminated. He's out. It's literally week thirteen. He
Speaker 1: has quite a bit of his fab left. That's why
Speaker 1: he came in last He wasn't trying hard enough. Whatever.
Speaker 1: In week thirteen, he spends like sixty bucks on like
Speaker 1: Baltimore defense, which is the hot defense, and say that
Speaker 1: week and everyone's like, are you kidding me? Like now,
Speaker 1: now you're spending your money on a freaking Baltimore defense.
Speaker 1: You're a last place, you're mathematically eliminated. There are obviously
Speaker 1: all the playoff found teams they wanted Baltimore defense. So
Speaker 1: I've always been in the camp and this is what
Speaker 1: I voted for that you have every right to play
Speaker 1: to the end. You play as hard as you can
Speaker 1: to the end you want. You're playing spoiler the whole deal,
Speaker 1: and they should be allowed to do that. There is
Speaker 1: a last place punishment the whole deal. So the vote
Speaker 1: happened in my league to lock team's abilities to pick
Speaker 1: up players once they're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. Now
Speaker 1: that actually one, and everyone was up in arms, saying, wait,
Speaker 1: this is not how It is not what I meant,
Speaker 1: this is not what I wanted to vote for. I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: So can we change this? So the conversation went back
Speaker 1: and forth, and everyone agreed, you can't have a last
Speaker 1: place punishment. You can't ask people to continue to look
Speaker 1: at their teams and compete if you limit their abilities
Speaker 1: to pick players. But what they ultimately decided was what
Speaker 1: we call the middle ground. You're allowed to pick up
Speaker 1: a player, but they're gonna wipe your once you're mathematically
Speaker 1: eliminated from the playoffs. The commission is gonna wipe your
Speaker 1: fab zero, not give it to anybody. They're gonna wipe
Speaker 1: the fab zero. So the teams that are actually competing
Speaker 1: for the playoffs have the best chance at acquiring a player.
Speaker 1: That was the middle ground. That was a compromise, and
Speaker 1: that seems to be what's going to be instituted. I
Speaker 1: wanted to get both of your thoughts on that rule
Speaker 1: and on this process of what you guys think should happen.
Speaker 1: I'll start with you first off, is this a keeper
Speaker 1: or redraft? He's a redraft league, an auction redraft league,
Speaker 1: redraft league, all right, So yeah, I think it makes
Speaker 1: more sense the way that you guys handled it. It's
Speaker 1: tough because like, as long as a person has FAB,
Speaker 1: like I truly believe, you shouldn't be able to take
Speaker 1: away their ability to do so. I mean we have
Speaker 1: a similar problem like that in our league, where because
Speaker 1: we have a consolation bracket in the playoffs, that matters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it actually matters, Like the first and second place team
Speaker 1: of the constellation bracket get to choose their draft picks
Speaker 1: the next season. So it's still that people are still
Speaker 1: interested playing in the playoffs playing out the rest of
Speaker 1: the season, but we had to implement a rule where,
Speaker 1: you know, people playing in the consolation bracket can't use
Speaker 1: their FAB. So very very similar. Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's similar, but not because you're still part of
Speaker 1: like the regular season, Like and you said that there's
Speaker 1: a last place punishment. So in the league like that,
Speaker 1: I don't know that you can completely take away the
Speaker 1: use of someone's FAB. But like in a constellation bracket,
Speaker 1: I have no problem taking away fat because the people
Speaker 1: who were actually competing for the championship should have first
Speaker 1: and all DIBs at players available using their FAB and
Speaker 1: I think that it's the same scenario. Basically, you're just
Speaker 1: moving it up a little bit. You want teams that
Speaker 1: are fighting for the playoffs to have I'm saying you
Speaker 1: could be I have no chance based on points making. Basically, mathematically,
Speaker 1: this guy had all FAB left because he didn't pay
Speaker 1: attention to all the year. If you have sixty dollars
Speaker 1: FAB left by week thirteen, that means you did something
Speaker 1: wrong and that's probably why you're in the position that
Speaker 1: you're in, right, So to use all of that on
Speaker 1: a defense, Yes, it was. It was. It was annoying,
Speaker 1: and I understand, I agree honestly what it is. So
Speaker 1: that's why we came up with the compromise. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I agree with it. I voted, especially if the
Speaker 1: reason why he did it was malissias. He wanted to
Speaker 1: screw the person over, and it makes that gives you
Speaker 1: even more of a reason to want to implement a rule.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it to me, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the right move to me, and that thing is,
Speaker 1: then kick that guy out of the league. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he's not paying attention, he's leaving all of us fat.
Speaker 1: He's not playing to come out of the league. The
Speaker 1: fact that you have to implement these stupid rules. First
Speaker 1: of all, there there is a punishment for a last place,
Speaker 1: so then it shouldn't take away your ability to do
Speaker 1: anything at any time, at any point. And in the
Speaker 1: same if they're playing for the draft picks and the consolation,
Speaker 1: if you're still playing, I don't care. I could be twelve,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I still play every week like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to win. I've always played that way. Everyone should
Speaker 1: play it that way. The right move in this instant
Speaker 1: is not make up stupid rules where you take away
Speaker 1: people's ability to play the game. I'm sure. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's an entry fee, but maybe there is,
Speaker 1: maybe there's not. But the fact that there's a penalty
Speaker 1: for getting last place, okay, well there is, Well that
Speaker 1: guy paid. Yeah, the only right thing to do is
Speaker 1: to kick him out of the league. If it's not playing.
Speaker 1: To get rid of him, I'm sure you can find
Speaker 1: somebody else to play. I mean, fantasy football is one
Speaker 1: of the most popular things in the United States right now,
Speaker 1: find another player. That guy's an idiot. So I guess
Speaker 1: text message from the person that was texting me about
Speaker 1: it last night he says, thank you very young, So
Speaker 1: there there, there you go. Um. And his argument was that, listen,
Speaker 1: if there's three teams finding the playoffs that you know,
Speaker 1: he the last place team was playing somebody, then it's
Speaker 1: a huge impact in the playoff race. Even though he's
Speaker 1: mathematically eliminated, he has a huge, huge effect on the
Speaker 1: playoffs rate, on the playoff race. He should be allowed
Speaker 1: to do ever you can to affect it because that's
Speaker 1: teams that are in the playoff race that are boo
Speaker 1: hooing because this guy has fat. Well, then you should
Speaker 1: held on to your fab money sort of like you mean,
Speaker 1: like that's how it works. Like that's how it works. Sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can find you another player for your league, I
Speaker 1: mean from Leland. I mean, we we have people around Greg.
Speaker 1: I agree, I listen, I agree with that. I'm never
Speaker 1: I'm never in enough leagues. Let's make I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: you come back to New York for it, though I'll
Speaker 1: be there all all weekend. That's that's the big That's
Speaker 1: the big topic is what are we doing? What are
Speaker 1: we getting into? I'm there Friday, Saturday, Sunday and until
Speaker 1: Monday at two o'clock. Just prepare, Just prepare yourselves. What
Speaker 1: are you doing next week? I think we're around Friday night.
Speaker 1: I returned from Myrtle Beach Friday during the day, but
Speaker 1: I could probably be around during the nighttime. Saturday is
Speaker 1: my anniversary, so that's tough. Friday night, I could probably
Speaker 1: be around. I just realized you're not here a week
Speaker 1: next week. Huh, it's gonna be Greg and e y
Speaker 1: week next week has a job. This is this is
Speaker 1: a little bit more important than ours too, not more.
Speaker 1: It's not more important. It's just time consuming. It's just
Speaker 1: times exactly. See you. I'm gonna go out there and
Speaker 1: say it's more important. What where is Floria Studio? If
Speaker 1: you're not in l A, corr you back and like,
Speaker 1: come on, I might have it, might be getting I
Speaker 1: don't even think he's he might be in l A
Speaker 1: by next week. I think he's there this week. Might
Speaker 1: call him after the show. Um, okay, we have about
Speaker 1: ten minutes left. I want to take your calls. Eight
Speaker 1: four four eight four three six seven nine. Let me
Speaker 1: start with Kevin in Chicago. What's up Kevin? Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: three quick things. First of all, I love the show obviously, Um,
Speaker 1: happy anniversary or Frank just talking out heard definitely, and
Speaker 1: I love your work man anytime he was cutting a
Speaker 1: promo all about it. So that's all I wanted to say.
Speaker 1: They're yeah, and then just kind of seguing, um, what
Speaker 1: you guys just talking about. I don't have a question
Speaker 1: about draft, but really quick, I'm always strict about the
Speaker 1: guys in my league playing being commissioner in one of
Speaker 1: my leagues, and I just really had to let go
Speaker 1: two guys because there's two years in a row they've
Speaker 1: just kind of messed it up. I'm not said lineups, um,
Speaker 1: and I just want to get you guys a quick
Speaker 1: to pay on this. As professioner, I always send a
Speaker 1: text to come Thursday morning or afternoon, Hey, set your
Speaker 1: line up? Remember to set your line up? And and
Speaker 1: I do that even if the guy's playing me, because
Speaker 1: I want is that something that should be doing? Or yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a man, but you shouldn't have to send text.
Speaker 1: Get rid of those guys. I know it takes it
Speaker 1: with a phone like everyone's got a smartphone. It takes
Speaker 1: ten seconds. Get rid of those dominants that bother That
Speaker 1: bothers me more than anything. Like they blame the commissioner
Speaker 1: when someone does nothing their line up. It's something. It's
Speaker 1: not a job. Man. You have a smart phone, and
Speaker 1: I know like e y is, as Frank just said,
Speaker 1: one of the busiest guys. We know. He's always he's
Speaker 1: always on the road, he's always working because that that's
Speaker 1: his job. But when he's not physically in the ring,
Speaker 1: he can very easily check his phone and just make
Speaker 1: sure dude is playing. It doesn't take that long. I'm sorry. No,
Speaker 1: you do not send out text messages. You shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to do that. That's not part of your job description
Speaker 1: as the commissioner. If people are invested in your league,
Speaker 1: and they should be. If you play fantasy football, you
Speaker 1: should be in vested in your league. Whether you're oh
Speaker 1: and twelve like EU I said, you should still be invested.
Speaker 1: You're setting your lineups. This happened once in my league
Speaker 1: where I had to start texting the person. I thought
Speaker 1: I would never do it from the end of the season.
Speaker 1: The next year. This is my home league, the one
Speaker 1: that is as close as to my heart as possible.
Speaker 1: I had to kick this guy out of the league.
Speaker 1: And he's one of my close friends as well, and
Speaker 1: I had to do it and he didn't understand why.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, look, dude, you didn't set your line
Speaker 1: up three weeks in a row while people are trying
Speaker 1: to play for the playoffs, and that could have made
Speaker 1: a difference. So if it comes down to we, you
Speaker 1: just got to get rid of those people in your league.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be the one to have to send text
Speaker 1: messages out ever. Yeah, if I if I made up
Speaker 1: bed Frank on that. No. I literally had to follow
Speaker 1: my buddy of mine. I grew up with this guy
Speaker 1: where four years old, we broke together and everything, and
Speaker 1: he's been in a league I'm running for the start
Speaker 1: of it, and uh, I had out him go and
Speaker 1: it was the most awkward phone conversation I've ever had.
Speaker 1: And uh, those two guys I had to cut. He
Speaker 1: was one of them. And I said, and it's two
Speaker 1: years in a row now, like we can't have it.
Speaker 1: And you know, it was a little awkward at first,
Speaker 1: but you know what, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if I have a ten team league that's gonna play
Speaker 1: at ten teams. Sucks about twelve, but time quality guys
Speaker 1: that are playing I take any day over the twelve.
Speaker 1: You know you're more of a man than I am.
Speaker 1: Because you called the guy I did it over text.
Speaker 1: It was it was really hard to do. But uh,
Speaker 1: if I'm out of the the time, I understand you. It
Speaker 1: was called back in the day. Um, and I asked
Speaker 1: that question about the draft. Let what was your question? Man,
Speaker 1: you're on the fello, let's go. It's up. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: now I'll be quick. Um. Yeah. So you know, when
Speaker 1: it comes to draft day, a lot of times, you know,
Speaker 1: especially with me, a lot of stuff you tell yourself
Speaker 1: calls out the one that when you're on the clock
Speaker 1: it's different. So let's say I'm sitting there in a
Speaker 1: full point PTR and I end up taking two receivers
Speaker 1: off of that, which is something I usually don't do.
Speaker 1: But if that happens, what's someone in the third between
Speaker 1: third and fourth round that you guys feel really good
Speaker 1: about finger number one running back? Like, I know that
Speaker 1: there's guys still working around like McCoy and even Lynch.
Speaker 1: He's not going to somewhere in the fourth I believe,
Speaker 1: So I don't wanna. I don't want to um board
Speaker 1: in France's mouth, so I'll let you answer Frank. But
Speaker 1: now you mentioned Marshall Lynch there, Kevin and no Frase
Speaker 1: also stupidly high up on Alex Collins who who goes
Speaker 1: around the same range as well. What are there any
Speaker 1: other names? Frank? Yeah, I like Kenyan Drake as well
Speaker 1: in the third fourth round swing. I worry a little
Speaker 1: bit about Frank Gore being there, and you mentioned Marshall
Speaker 1: Lynch fourth round. Now you can get him in the seventh,
Speaker 1: eighth round. Don't worry about that, especially in a ten
Speaker 1: team league. Even guys like Rare Shad Penny, the rookie
Speaker 1: there with the Seattle Seahawks. I'm not worried about Chris Carson.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the work horse there. And
Speaker 1: all this talk about Darius guys getting more work in
Speaker 1: the passing game, and we're talking about Chris Thompson, you know,
Speaker 1: being worried to run and get tackled by opposing players,
Speaker 1: and you know the injury history that he has. As
Speaker 1: much as Darius guy is gonna play, he can easily
Speaker 1: fall into thirty to forty receptions and in the PPR League,
Speaker 1: if he does that on top of the rushing production
Speaker 1: and the touchdowns, we expect that of him. I think
Speaker 1: he's a fine third and fourth round pick as well.
Speaker 1: All Right, so there you go. It's Kevin in Chicago.
Speaker 1: You have a question for us or a comment based
Speaker 1: on uh the strate teager conversation we're talking about eight
Speaker 1: four four eight four three seven nine. Nember to join
Speaker 1: in is eight four four eight four three six eight
Speaker 1: seven nine. I want to go into our our YouTube
Speaker 1: chat room now and ask you guys or answer a
Speaker 1: questions that you've had so we would get more into that.
Speaker 1: I would have Florio and and I want to stick
Speaker 1: to my word there. So, uh, if you have a
Speaker 1: question your emis quality fight four three seven nine, you
Speaker 1: can do that or you could ask it in the
Speaker 1: YouTube chat right now. Uh. First question we have really
Speaker 1: at you Frank Lynch in the fourth Can I please
Speaker 1: join your league? Well that was at the caller's question
Speaker 1: because he mentioned Lynch in the fourth, But I think
Speaker 1: any once we get to the seventh round, I'm completely
Speaker 1: fine with Lynch. I've mentioned it before. I mean he's
Speaker 1: going outside the top thirty at running back right now.
Speaker 1: Last year only need two hundred and seven carries to
Speaker 1: finish this RB twenty, So I think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: in that to twenty to two D and forty carrie
Speaker 1: range even that offensive line. As many touchdowns as he's
Speaker 1: gonna score, I think that will be fine enough for
Speaker 1: him to pay off top twenty four value this season. Eric,
Speaker 1: As I go back into the PPR running backs here,
Speaker 1: we had mentioned and you had mentioned specifically, um Jack
Speaker 1: McKinnon with San Francisco and how high everybody is and
Speaker 1: was on him. That leads me to Matt Brita, and
Speaker 1: we talk about PBR running backs and and Frank he
Speaker 1: believed if Floria leaves a chance Matt Brita sometime we'll
Speaker 1: have more value than Jared mckinning. Where do you feel
Speaker 1: comfortable drafting Matt Brita. Jeez, that's tough. I I did
Speaker 1: uh see a report the other day that said all
Speaker 1: three backs including Joe Williams, is looking good. Um, but
Speaker 1: they said that Matt Brida is the best running back
Speaker 1: on the team right now, which is is pretty crazy
Speaker 1: to think, uh to me, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: the weights and stuff, but he looked even more slight
Speaker 1: than McKinnon. So, uh, that's something that that worries me.
Speaker 1: At the running back position. He's a smaller guy and
Speaker 1: like look like m J D and you know guys
Speaker 1: like that. Like I'm not talking about short, I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about frame wise, Like he's a very slight human being.
Speaker 1: So that worries me. But Matt Breeda, if you're a
Speaker 1: guy that believes that San Francisco's offense is gonna be
Speaker 1: what everyone thinks it's gonna be, I'm not in that boat.
Speaker 1: Matt Breed is a guy that you can get in
Speaker 1: late rounds. That could be good. He could be the
Speaker 1: past catcher. I don't know, but I mean with McKinnon there,
Speaker 1: I believe in McKinnon. I think he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: big year. Um he's a shorter guy too, but it
Speaker 1: is built Like I mean, you see all these videos
Speaker 1: of him in the weight room. He's a beast man.
Speaker 1: He's a beast. If he stays healthy, I think he
Speaker 1: has a big year. And I still have this weird
Speaker 1: feeling about Joe Williams. All right, Joelians your boy this year?
Speaker 1: Fair enough? Hey? Tamon Austin back up running back in Dallas.
Speaker 1: He's gonna say, maybe maybe you were year early May.
Speaker 1: Who was a year early New Year? We're gonna find out.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Spencer in Baltimore. What's up Spence? Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: love the show, Thanks for having me. What's going on? Alright?
Speaker 1: So quick question? Um, that's just before, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of developing. I mean a ten man keeper league PPR. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have Kareem Hunt in the sixth round. Um, now
Speaker 1: my my dilema is I can go DJ and then
Speaker 1: come back. But because of all the keepers, my number
Speaker 1: one receiver would be looking like Amari Cooper, t Y Hilton.
Speaker 1: But if I do an Tonio Brown, I could come
Speaker 1: back and snag Joe John may Sin and Darius guys.
Speaker 1: So I was trying to see where you guys have
Speaker 1: that on that if I should just go DJ, pair
Speaker 1: him up with Kareem and Frank you're the guy that
Speaker 1: kind of analyzed the picture. What what pick do you
Speaker 1: have in the draft? I have? Third, are those guys
Speaker 1: guaranteed to be there? Which David Johnson and Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: are both guaranteed to be there? Yeah? Yeah, the first
Speaker 1: two are gonna go leve On and Todd Gurley. All right,
Speaker 1: So if you have Kareem Hunt as your sixth round
Speaker 1: pick as your keeper already, I have no problem taking
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. I think Antonio Brown versus David Johnson is
Speaker 1: close enough in a PPR that if you pair Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown with Kareem Hunt and then come back and just
Speaker 1: take the best player available, whether it's running back, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: I like that a little bit more. Greg. I agree
Speaker 1: with you wholeheartedly. Everybody. We have about two minutes left.
Speaker 1: I wanted to end with you because you were tweeting.
Speaker 1: I believe it was earlier this morning about your love
Speaker 1: for Bryce Butler this year, how let's not get carried away.
Speaker 1: It was not love. And I know when you put
Speaker 1: up stuff, everyone's like, oh, you can't pick. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like the last pick. You know, you're in a
Speaker 1: in a in a deep you know, a twelve team,
Speaker 1: a fourteen team, maybe a Best Ball league. I don't
Speaker 1: know who the other wide receiver I like to me
Speaker 1: like I used to like J. J. Nelson, but I
Speaker 1: think he's proven that he's not really a thing. He's
Speaker 1: not a very big guy. Someone's got to be on
Speaker 1: the outside. Someone's got to catch touchdowns. You know, I
Speaker 1: know Ricky Seals Jones. Uh, you know, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a big step forward. But someone's gotta do
Speaker 1: it a receiver. And Bryce Butler is a guy that
Speaker 1: I mean when you saw him when he played, which
Speaker 1: was very little for the Dallas Cowboys, he looked good.
Speaker 1: He's physically physically, he's a beast. He's tall, he's got
Speaker 1: a big body. He ran like a four three seven forties,
Speaker 1: so he can run. Uh And we don't know if
Speaker 1: you can catch or not because he's barely played. But
Speaker 1: I've got a real weird feeling about it. I'm talking
Speaker 1: second to last, you know, last round or you know,
Speaker 1: or the first guy. You might pick him up on
Speaker 1: the waive wire, but I forgot a feeling after a
Speaker 1: week one, unless you got the number one priority, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna get him. So that's a guy just to
Speaker 1: keep on. Now. That's a real sleeper, not like oh
Speaker 1: like Tariko and you Y taking the stab with Brice Butler.
Speaker 1: I like it. I don't mind it. In the best
Speaker 1: ball format, you guys gotta take guys that you think
Speaker 1: have the upside, and that's your Scott Man alight. I
Speaker 1: gonna appreciate, appreciate you coming on as always. We'll do
Speaker 1: it again soon for Frank Staffle. I'm Greg Susman to
Speaker 1: of US move back tomorrow, we hope