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<v Speaker 1>around the fire listening to. E Y. I'm we took

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<v Speaker 1>that one out of the rotation. I think, well as

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<v Speaker 1>long as as long as it was in the rotation

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<v Speaker 1>it all right, well man, alright, anyway, on the show today,

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<v Speaker 1>really uh fun show because we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different things were kind of putting our hands into today,

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<v Speaker 1>which is cool. Frank and Iri and Eric are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to get to the bottom of the Melvin Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>heat because I don't I don't, I don't get it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>any of you will change as we get closer to

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<v Speaker 1>actual draft days or the majority of draft days. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's something going on, and I'm talking to a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people about this, So the three of us gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to figure that out. Um. We're also going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of the PPR running backs because we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned tore coing a lot with Eric Chris Thompson, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all over. There's a bunch of other guys that people

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about theo Rick of course too. But where

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<v Speaker 1>should you draft these guys? We spoke yesterday how I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked Chris Thompson or two days ago Chris Thompson

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<v Speaker 1>five rounds later or four hours later than Christi McCaffrey.

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<v Speaker 1>But where are the other guys going? So we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get into that as well. I have a strategy

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<v Speaker 1>conversation I really want to ask Frank and Eric about.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know what it is, so they're gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>us their honest and objective thoughts, and of course we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start of today's fact away Frank. Yeah, So it

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with somebody who is in the news

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<v Speaker 1>and part of the reason why I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people were very excited about him coming into the

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<v Speaker 1>draft season, and that's has to do with Doug Baldwin.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, Russell Wilson had seventy three attempts in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone. Forty two of those red zone targets are gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Is if the eight percent of his red zone attempts

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<v Speaker 1>that includes Jimmy Graham who had twenty six, Paul Richardson

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<v Speaker 1>who had eleven, Luke Wilson who had five, fifty eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the Seahawks red zones targets are gone from

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<v Speaker 1>last season to this season. That's part of the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why we were all very excited about Doug Baldwin. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of have to, I think, to flake that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit with this knee injury news. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the latest news is he hurt his knee, and from

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<v Speaker 1>every beat reporter, from Pete Carroll, it's not a day

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<v Speaker 1>to day thing. He's gonna be out for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. And when it comes to knee soreness, if

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<v Speaker 1>the soreness doesn't and E y, you can certainly speak

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<v Speaker 1>more to this, um, given you're much more sore than

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<v Speaker 1>we are. UM, but given these stories, if it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>I guess go down, the swelling doesn't go down, ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to have some sort of surgery, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's art arthur scot excuse me, arthroscopic or even more severe.

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<v Speaker 1>How concerned should we be about this Doug Baldwin injury.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess you gotta wait and to find

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<v Speaker 1>out what it is. A knees or tricky, uh, especially

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<v Speaker 1>for a wide receiver, I mean, anyone playing football knees tricky.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he relies on that with his speed, his

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<v Speaker 1>starting and stopping, his cutting in and out of routes

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. So I mean it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe the most important joint a receiver has

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<v Speaker 1>is his knee joint and it being hurt. Um. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not so scared of him missing a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Baldwin needed to play in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean, he knows the playbook. Kim and

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<v Speaker 1>Russell have an obvious connection. If he misses the entire preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not scared of him. I still have him pretty high.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm you know, like this is making me cautious.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess cautious. Okay, So Frank, let me kind of

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<v Speaker 1>follow up Whateveric was saying. He knows the playbook. New

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator though, and we said all of last year

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to note when there's new offensive coordinators and

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<v Speaker 1>just not expect the same thing. We repeated the mantra

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over again, helping of a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It is is it for you that Dug Ballin's out

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<v Speaker 1>for the next three weeks or so? Listen, He's right, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>bald and Russell Wilson could do anything together. Just mind control.

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<v Speaker 1>How serious is this for you? I'm worried and I

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted about that yesterday. Drink. Any time a player misses

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<v Speaker 1>time in training camp doesn't have the ability to get

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<v Speaker 1>up to snuff physically, let alone, you know, not only

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<v Speaker 1>learning the offense from Brian Schottenheimer what we expect to

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<v Speaker 1>be honestly a very boring offense. What's going to make

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<v Speaker 1>it exciting is the fact that Russell Wilson is part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But Bryan Schottenheimer and interesting offense are two

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<v Speaker 1>terms that we've never really put together. So it sucks

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit that he's not going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>there learning it. And I feel like any time players

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<v Speaker 1>miss training camp, it's kind of like they start the

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<v Speaker 1>actual regular season a little bit gimpie. Maybe they get

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<v Speaker 1>off the slow starts. Maybe you know what dr Ay

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<v Speaker 1>tells us about guys coming back off injuries, maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>start to compensate a little bit more. Right, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>compensating for one knee, You're putting a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on one leg. That could lead to even more injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Eis absolutely right about like needing your knee as a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver is probably the most important part of your

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<v Speaker 1>leg at the position, I mean being able to cut,

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<v Speaker 1>being able to jump and you know, catch these contested

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<v Speaker 1>passes and stuff. So I was very, very excited about

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Baldwin. Um, I didn't think that he would get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the fourteen touchdowns that he had three years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but I felt there was a chance for him to

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<v Speaker 1>come close to that. I think, you know, double digit

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns could have been within reach, especially with all those

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<v Speaker 1>red zone targets now available, not just red zone targets,

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<v Speaker 1>all around targets. I mean, you know, Jimmy Graham had

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight overall targets last season. Paul Richardson had eighty targets.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were a lot of targets up for grads

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<v Speaker 1>this year with Doug Baldwin, and I think we all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of expect now that the Seahawks defense is not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be as good as it has been in years past,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're gonna be in more shootouts. The forty niners

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<v Speaker 1>have a good offense, the Rams have a good offense.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be higher scoring games in the NFC West

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<v Speaker 1>that we're not really used to seeing. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>very very excited about Doug Baldwin. I've tempered expectations a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I'm not gonna drop him too far in

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<v Speaker 1>the rankings. Might move t Y Hilton ahead of him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's still going to be in that top twelve range.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it does worry me, and it honestly it

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<v Speaker 1>does suck because he was a guy was targeting, so Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to throw it to you. How forward does

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<v Speaker 1>he fall? I know you said gonna be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit conservative. I was also targeting Doug Baldwin. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's a discount here, right like, maybe he falls far enough.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a legitimate discount in the draft for him, given

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<v Speaker 1>the connection with Russell Wilson, you feel comfortable taking him? Where?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you? Where is that spot right now? I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're you're need even research. Where are you taking

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Balding right now? I think I have my wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver fourteen. I'm not moving him at all at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, we got to find out what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. You know, is a c L, is an

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<v Speaker 1>mc L? Is it bruising and swelling? You know? And

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<v Speaker 1>and and each injury is different. You know, some guys

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<v Speaker 1>bounced back quicker, like give me not. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a person that has has always healed quickly. Um I've

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always been a person that can still perform when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm banged up, or when I'm sore, or even when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hurt. So you know, we don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bald. Was the guy that you see is pre reliable.

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<v Speaker 1>He might be one of the most reliable wide receivers

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<v Speaker 1>in the last five years. And uh, yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>moving him. I'm not doing anything yet. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know there's not a lot of stuff coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>training camp is just getting going, and every time something happens,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone wants to hit the panic button. But just just

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<v Speaker 1>take a breath and relax. And if you've already drafted

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<v Speaker 1>him and he's on your team, then maybe take two breaths.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know it's uh, let's just wait and find

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<v Speaker 1>out and see what happens. Do you know the wise

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<v Speaker 1>words relax? Yeah, And what Uy said about him being

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<v Speaker 1>a reliable receiver to last season, he's finished between wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver eight and wide receiver thirteen. So he's been incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>consistent and he's never exceeded a hundred and twenty five targets.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, I thought that he was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on pace to shattered that this season, and given health,

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<v Speaker 1>I could have seen him in the one and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>plus range this year. Even everything I said about the

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks defense and how I think they're gonna be in

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<v Speaker 1>more shootouts this season. You know the phone lines before

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<v Speaker 1>we continue, gentlemen, eight four, four, four, three seven nine,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hit up Shan in New York. What's Sean? Hey? Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing? Great? Man? All right? I got

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<v Speaker 1>two questions, if you guys can get to a real

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<v Speaker 1>quick both about the NFC West. I asked this question before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I never got a solid answer. Why would Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>so high as he's the third or fourth highest rated

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback there if he doesn't have Paul Richardson or Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Graham like last year and he's had a terrible offensive wine.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's let's start there. Frank I, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw it to you. The offensive line improved, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>D J. Flucker a good run blocker. Uh. They traded

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<v Speaker 1>for Dwayne Brown last season. He's their left tackle. So

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<v Speaker 1>what about the other weapons that are gone? You named

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<v Speaker 1>him all a few moments ago Jimmy Graham, Doug Ballin's hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Richardson's gone, Tyler Locket's always hurt. Why is Russell

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson rank so highly? Yeah, I have him ranked as

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<v Speaker 1>my QB two right now, and I think part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is the rushing floor that he gives you every

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<v Speaker 1>single season. For me, at least four hundred eighty nine

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<v Speaker 1>rushing yards in five of the six seasons he's played it.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only that, he's include improved his passing attempts

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<v Speaker 1>two seasons in a row now. And given everything I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, their defense is not gonna be great. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas one South. This is not the legion and

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<v Speaker 1>boom of boom defense that we've seen in years past.

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson finished as QB two last year in points

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<v Speaker 1>per game, and that was before he lost even more

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<v Speaker 1>pieces to this defense. So I think they're gonna be trailing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna have to put even more on

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson. As much as they want to run the football,

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<v Speaker 1>they might be more effective at doing that from just

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<v Speaker 1>one running back this year, or Shad Penny I think

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<v Speaker 1>will be that workhorse running back. But they're still going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to put up points, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fall on the back and the legs of Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really worried about the weapons. To me, the

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<v Speaker 1>best quarterbacks make the weapons around them look even better,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Russell Wilson is already in that category.

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<v Speaker 1>Challenge a second question, But all right, and now sticking

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the quest, you know the Niners

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<v Speaker 1>got a pretty good offense. Is Jimmy Garoppolo a top

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<v Speaker 1>ten quarterback this year? You think with Carson and McKinnon

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<v Speaker 1>as a pass catcher at the backfield, that one to

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<v Speaker 1>use Jimmy g rank for you a top ten quarterback? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's I mean, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>insane people that are taking him that high crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's a five game sample. And the big thing

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<v Speaker 1>is this is when he comes in, he's been a

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<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback his whole life. There is no tape on him.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't play, he's never played. So we had five

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<v Speaker 1>games where there was no tape on him. He came

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<v Speaker 1>in and like, look, I mean, he did look good

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<v Speaker 1>and he looked like he had a good command of

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<v Speaker 1>the offense. Even though just coming in and learning it

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<v Speaker 1>right away. McKinnon is obviously an improvement. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Kittle has a big jump forward. Our song is

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<v Speaker 1>super reliable. Uh, Marky's good one, I think is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a big year or you know, or a good

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<v Speaker 1>year for for Marky's good one. But people that are

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<v Speaker 1>driving him that higher, they're crazy. And everyone's saying, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>ser frances is gonna have a good offense. That is

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<v Speaker 1>that is death. That is. No one knows who's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a good offense. No one knows who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good d ends and trying to predict it

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<v Speaker 1>is insane, even harder on the defensive side. So just

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<v Speaker 1>just do it by skill and right now. Jimmy g

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<v Speaker 1>is a good quarterback, but I mean driving him in

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten to me is absolute insanity. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go, Jimmy G not at outside quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>according to Eric Young, Frank you a great I have

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<v Speaker 1>him just outside my top time with him at twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say I'll take him over guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, guys that we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>do it before. I think they're just yes. While they

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<v Speaker 1>have a higher floor. I just don't think Stafford Rivers

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<v Speaker 1>have the ceiling. I'll take the unknown of Jimmy g

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<v Speaker 1>over those guys, but he's not outside of my top ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I have met wealth of the world. All

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<v Speaker 1>right there, you'll continue on the phone lines and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Stephen in Massachusetts. What's going on, Steve? Uh? My

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<v Speaker 1>question is about so I don't know if you guys noticed, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Joss Stackson he got injured. And I know that you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on the show, like you guys are big on

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<v Speaker 1>Jamison crowd or so I'm just wondering and if I

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<v Speaker 1>can't like, because you know, drafts are usually about like

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<v Speaker 1>a month away. If I can't get Jamison Crowder, is

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<v Speaker 1>there somebody else that I should be looking into as

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<v Speaker 1>far as like the passing game? Or is it just

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<v Speaker 1>strictly Jamison Crowder. So, I think it's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it leads into exactly what we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about here, Steve um And and that's Chris Thompson. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jamison Crowder is the number one guy. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he fits really really well with Alex Smith. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you I was high on HM last year. I think

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was high on Jameson Crowder last year, and Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Dockson is to me, frank much like DeVante Parker and

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<v Speaker 1>much like for Sean Parriman. And they all stink, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>of them. You don't have they Parker less, but they all,

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<v Speaker 1>they all are not consistent enough to use. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was a Josh Dockson guy all of last year. He's

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<v Speaker 1>are so the most logical player you'd go to replace him,

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<v Speaker 1>as Paul Richardson. But Paul Richardson, from every thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you have read coming out of Washington, he's really struggled.

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<v Speaker 1>He's really struggled. And this offense with a new quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in Alex Smith is not meant for people in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>like like Josh Dockson and like Paul Richardson, It's meant

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<v Speaker 1>for Jamison crowd Jordan read if he's healthy, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Thompson. But Chris Thompson is a more interesting case

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<v Speaker 1>that unfortunately I want to even realize because I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's uber talented. The dude knows how to catch a

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<v Speaker 1>pass and just go. He's a heck of a pass

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<v Speaker 1>blocker and he's awesome by all senses of the word.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is he's never been healthy back in college

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<v Speaker 1>and in his first few years in the NFL, he

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<v Speaker 1>has not been able to remain healthy, missing the second

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<v Speaker 1>half of last year. Now he's come back and you

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<v Speaker 1>read a report coming out of practice saying he looks great,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks really really awesome. But then he says, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not close to and j Gruden says, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working my way. I'm working my way back on him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he looks good, and then the report goes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks amazing. The next report is he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a hundred percent until November. What does all

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<v Speaker 1>of this mean, Eric, when it comes to Chris Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>w it means like every year you gotta worry about

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<v Speaker 1>him getting hurt. He's a small guy, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and being a running back, a guy that's either going

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<v Speaker 1>out and taking a tackle or or sitting in and

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<v Speaker 1>and having you know, six ft linebackers run into him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're gonna get hurt. I mean he, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said to your point, is he gets hurt. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he's never been able to stay healthy. Uh. Last

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<v Speaker 1>year I think they needed to rely on him more.

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<v Speaker 1>P Rhyme was the guy that I was super high on.

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<v Speaker 1>He let him down and they ended up playing Chris Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>They were running them between the tackles and stuff. If

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Guys is who I think he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>and who who most people think he's going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>then Chris Thompson is good. But him not saying he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be a healthy until November, he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of terrifying. Yeah, he's I get it. I completely get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people that are like you that

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<v Speaker 1>feel the same way about Darius Guys. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation when it came to Chris Thompson in that

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<v Speaker 1>if Guys is this pass catcher and this good pass blocker,

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<v Speaker 1>what is Thompson's role? How scared are you by the

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<v Speaker 1>reports that you have read and the news on Guys, Frankie,

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<v Speaker 1>I am very worried about that. Specifically, something that he

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<v Speaker 1>said is he was talking about he's gonna be worried

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<v Speaker 1>to get tackled by bigger players, like any time that's

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<v Speaker 1>already in the back of your mind as a running back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mentioned it. This guy is only five eight,

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<v Speaker 1>he's below two pounds. Yes, He's incredibly explosive. He scored

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<v Speaker 1>a tough a ton of touchdowns. Last year. He was

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<v Speaker 1>number one among running backs in yards per touch, so

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<v Speaker 1>we know how explosive he can be. But anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>already have that mindset there that I have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about being tackled in the NFL, and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about, you know, making these jukes as a running back,

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<v Speaker 1>you're worried about you know, Oh, am I gonna am

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<v Speaker 1>I gonna sprain this ligament in my knee? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna worried about having a broken leg? That worries me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, man, especially when you look at a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like him, his ADP. He's in the seventh eighth round.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like, al right, some of these not

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<v Speaker 1>it's not nothing. It's not one of these other PPR

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<v Speaker 1>backs that we're taken in the twelve thirte whatever. It

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<v Speaker 1>might be some guys that we think have upside. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to give some drift capital to get Chris Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty worried about this. We're gonna get more into

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<v Speaker 1>that draft capital with the PTR running macks. A little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on we come back. I want to dive

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<v Speaker 1>into Nolan Gordon because something is up here. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is. Maybe e Y as the answer,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Frankie does. I certainly don't mean Gordon. Next. Fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>Frank stamfle Greg Susman here with you and I like

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<v Speaker 1>at this time of the year, especially in my lead.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an auction where do not have to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>someone's sniping me in anyway I like to. I talked

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of my friends. I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about this guy? Would be about

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<v Speaker 1>that guy? How much does he go for? In a

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<v Speaker 1>name that we we've thrown around recently has been Melvin Gordon.

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<v Speaker 1>The way the thing about Melvin Gordon and the most

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<v Speaker 1>common reaction that I get, I'm out on that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh why you? I don't know. You know, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of other guys I like better, like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I talked to somebody in my snake league

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm most likely going to pick one pick ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of him, and we're kind of talking. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I don't care. Who do you like? My honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>if if Melvin Gordon is there, and depending on who's

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<v Speaker 1>not there, like I would strongly consider Melvin Gordon, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like him. I'd rather have Dalvin Cook or

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard Fournette. And I'm trying to figure out why. Like

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<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook coming off the A c L. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that he's on everybody's hype train this year. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard Fournette. The entire Jacksonville offense runs around this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody gets more carries in the league than Leonard Fournette.

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<v Speaker 1>And when gets where goal line carries Leonard Fournette and

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. But Melvin Gordon all he has done

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years but twelve touchdowns each year. He

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<v Speaker 1>has seen his receptions increase each year. He has seen

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<v Speaker 1>his yards per carry increase in this day the same

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<v Speaker 1>right around three point nine. That's the big X, right,

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<v Speaker 1>only three point nine yards of carry when you want

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<v Speaker 1>running back to the average more like four and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>But with the amount of carries the Melvin Gordon gets

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of touches that he gets, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>You could say that year two is a fluke, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but then he did it again in year three and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no one on this team I'm worried about. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about Austin Ekeler, I don't care about Damian Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about Justin Jackson. It means nothing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Melvin Gordon has gained the trust of this coaching staff

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<v Speaker 1>with everybody loved last year with Anthony Lynn. He has

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<v Speaker 1>gained the trust of Philip Rivers. This dude's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>out there all three downs, touching the ball all three downs.

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<v Speaker 1>He is more And we said this downstairs, Frank. He

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<v Speaker 1>is closer to me with se Kwon Barkley and Kareem

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<v Speaker 1>Harnt than he is to Leonard four Net and Dalvin Cook.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think you Yeah, I got him medicine

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<v Speaker 1>running back for that might blow your mind, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on board with you. I heard him do an

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<v Speaker 1>interview and I can't remember where it was, but he

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he said, you know the offense is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be everyone is high on the San Diego office, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>including me. Well you know, okay, yes it does not

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<v Speaker 1>run through Melvin Gordon, but he is the starting running back.

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<v Speaker 1>And brother doesn't want to come off the field. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets piste off when they take him off the field.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to catch passes, he wants to pass block,

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to do those things. He wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. That's the guy and the guy I want

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<v Speaker 1>on my team. He's done it, you know every year

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<v Speaker 1>that he's stayed healthy. And there is no running back

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<v Speaker 1>that is immune to that, you know, to that to

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<v Speaker 1>that analysis. Oh well, you know running backs get hurt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well do So Melvin Gordon is a guy that I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if there's other leagues out there that and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of guys that don't want I want

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<v Speaker 1>to play in those leagues because I want Melvin Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>on my team. So I couldn't agree more with him,

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<v Speaker 1>frank right, Like, Okay, fine, he hasn't his RB four.

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Most people have him closer to RB six or seven.

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>But if you believe it, a guy who cares, right, like,

0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 1>who are the three that were in front of America?

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Girly Bell and Johnson and I and I go back

0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and forth on Zeke and him, but I just feel

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that San Diego's offense is going to be far superior

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>to Dallas. They're gonna stack the box. They don't have

0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 1>any receivers in Dallas that anyone is going to worry about.

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 1>So to me, Gordon has got a much easier path

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.479
<v Speaker 1>to more production than Elliott. Alright, so fine, so he

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>likes Melvin Gordon over Ezekiel Elliott. Fine. When we started

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.760
<v Speaker 1>this a couple of months ago, I had Melvin Gordon

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>with Camara ahead of Barkley and with Hunt that was

0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 1>a three man crew for me. Since marketing suspension, Camara

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.920
<v Speaker 1>has gone up. No exchange with cream Hunt. Everyone hates

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Andy Reid at some point because they're gonna screw over

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.960
<v Speaker 1>cream Hunt. That doesn't happen with Melvin Gordon. Sure, we

0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.119
<v Speaker 1>saw some big games of Austin Ekeler, but you know,

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Melvin Gordon is the guy, and then they just lose

0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the running game and the wise right, so this offense

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't revolve around Melvin Gordon doesn't end. You know, he's

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.199
<v Speaker 1>the man. I don't get it, Frank, I don't get

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 1>it either. And what spurned this discussion was I was

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:48.920
<v Speaker 1>looking at nff C a d P over the last

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<v Speaker 1>seven days. I mean, these are high stakes draft These

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:55.880
<v Speaker 1>are some of the best um drafters around really honestly,

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and his ADP slipping to twelve point four eight, He's

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 1>now going to Ryan Leonard Fournette. He's going neck and

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 1>neck with Dalvin Cook. Don't get me wrong, I love

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook a ton. There's no way I could take

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook ahead of Melvin Gordon. You're you would be

0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>drafting Dalvin Cook and Leonard Fournette to do something we've

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>already seen Melvin Gordon do. Last year he was the

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.639
<v Speaker 1>RB five. The year before he was RB seven, and

0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 1>he spoke about Leonard Fournette getting all these categories inside

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the twenty on the goal line. Last year, Melvin Gordon

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 1>was top three in red zone rushing attempts inside the twenty,

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Top three in rushing attempts inside the ten, Top three

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>in rushing attempts inside the five. He is back to

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 1>back years with twelve plus touchdowns. Last year he became

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 1>more of a part in the passing game. He had

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:43.120
<v Speaker 1>over eighty targets. He had nearly sixty receptions, top ten

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>running back in receptions, top ten running back in receiving yards,

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:48.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't drop the ball, Oh, he does a score touchdowns.

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 1>He was the third highest scores hit, the third most

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns of any running back in all of football last year.

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 1>And we're dropping this guy for what. Yeah, and look

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line, this guy needs to stay healthy. But

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>they added Mike Pouncey because they're centered. We were talking

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>about last year that when j I had Mike Pouncey

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 1>as his center healthy with the Dolphins offensive line the

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:14.400
<v Speaker 1>year before, every single time he had and he was amazing.

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>So you're telling me that the Chargers at a center

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>with a caliber of Mike Pouncey if he can stay healthy.

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And we're pushing Melvin Gordon down the draft board. But

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it surprise you one bit, Greg, if this year in

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<v Speaker 1>a non PPR league, Melvin Gordon outscored Albun Kamara, not

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>at all. It wouldn't and Camara over him, he would

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>been everything he has as he has PPR understanding, right, right, right, PPR,

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I understand it might be different, Camark, I have eighty

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 1>plus receptions. Do you think, guys that there is this

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 1>there's always a bias against quote unquote non PPR guys, right,

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 1>guys who don't catch passes. I don't know why Melvin

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Gordon has his reputation. Is he had fifty eight receptions

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>last year that was their first year without Danny Woodhead.

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't it make sense that his septions would have gone

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>up and that's exactly what they did top ten in

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. I'm with you. I mean, like, look, every

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>team is going to have a running back that backs

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 1>up their workhorse too. Whatever, you'll take Melvin Gordon off

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the field for a couple of plays per game. Austin

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Ekeler is gonna get five to seven touches whatever it

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 1>might be. Like, that's it. I'm guys, I'm with you both.

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm really don't get it. I'm really interested to see

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 1>where he goes like in that auction. My first auction

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.479
<v Speaker 1>is officially nineteen days away. Now that's all. I'll have

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>some real data back it up. Obviously, the preseason will happen. Uh,

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 1>they'll begin. Hopefully we won't have any injuries. Of course,

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>injuries do happen, um, But yeah, I think it's damn interesting, guys.

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>And he helped me win two championships last year to

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the Flex League, which e Y and myself will now

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>be participating against each other. And then in my home league.

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>To remember, I lost David Johnson and Allen Robinson in

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the first week of the season. Both are those were

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>both my keepers in my home league. Still won the

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>chip and part of that reason was Melvin Gordon. All right,

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>so there there you go. Now we mentioned that this

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>this phantom theory about Melvin Gordon not being able to

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>catch passes, and it's quite frankly, as we said, it's

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>not real. It's simply not real. And we said Danny

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Woodhead was gone. What it went to Baltimore last year

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and got injured Week one. Now you always look for

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.919
<v Speaker 1>pass catching running backs and a late round fire as

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>a pass catching running back, maybe Buck Allen, Right, like

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>people talking about Conetiction, people going abou Kenetiction, they're talking

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:30.719
<v Speaker 1>about certainly Alex Collins, your boy should what people will

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.719
<v Speaker 1>be talking about Buck Allen. Yeah. I brought him up

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>because because a DP, you're getting the guy dirt cheap,

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>and he's going at a DP two oh four. And

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>last year, you know, as much as we wanted Alex

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Collins to be the workhorse, it really took until the

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>second half of the season. Vorries Allan. Buck Allen was

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 1>like a thorn in the side of all Alex Collins owners.

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>For a large portion of last year. He had nearly

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>fifty receptions. I think he's going to he's gonna have

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a pass catching role once again. I still think it

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't worry me much about Alex Collins because I think

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>he'll be on the field so much that you know

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>he'll fall into around forty receptions. But where Buck Allen

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>is going compared to some of these other guys, Like

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you'll ask me Chris Thompson in the seventh or eighth

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.439
<v Speaker 1>round or Buck Allen outside the top two hundred. Who

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>would rather take a shot on. It's like a PPR

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>back this year. Take the value on Buck Allan ten

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>times out of ten. I know people want Kenneth Dixon

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>to be a thing, but the guy has already banged up.

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been able to stay healthy. I don't know

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>how much trust this coaching staff has in him whatsoever.

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Buck Allen was getting red zone attempts last year. He was,

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting a ton of receptions. Might have not

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>been getting a ton of yards, but they trust buck Allen.

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I think there's something to be said for that. You

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>want any injuries there in Buck Allen, Yeah, I mean

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>some of you gotta be interested in a PBR for sure.

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>He's proven that he's got those chops. He can catch

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball well out of the backfield. They trust him

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 1>in past protection and when he was the guy, you

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>know last year, I mean, he was a guy that

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>he looked pretty good in kind of all aspects of

0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the game. I think Collins is going to be the starter.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>That's how they're gonna start out with. And I'm one

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>of the guys that wants Dixon to be a thing too.

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>He would flash and you would see him and he

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>would just kind of like blow you away physically at

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>what he could do. But he hasn't been able to

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>put it together, and he's always hurt. Now he's they're

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.719
<v Speaker 1>saying he's hurt again already. So yeah, Buck Allen, like

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Frank was saying, the value is just it's too good

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>to pass up. And you know someone like Thompson who's

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>already hurt. Um, you know, like I take Allen later

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.719
<v Speaker 1>on in the draft over him as well. Okay, So

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>so so there you are taking about Allan over Chris Thompson,

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the guy that has already hurt. Go with other PPR guys.

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to try to figure out where we go. Eric,

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>what are your guys? Last year was Terrek Cohen who

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>came on strong and you bought in. I'm a Jordan

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Howard guy. Everybody knows that about me. But there's no

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>reason that these two can't exist. I know you're a

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Howard guy as well. Three. Cohen is going very very

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>highly in draft. People are seeing what creem hunting in

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the passing game last year. They see Matt Neggie being

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>the head coach and let listen to Rick Cohen's gonna

0:28:55.280 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>be awesome. You how Highed you feel comfortable draft and Cohen, Yeah,

0:28:59.880 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he's getting a little too rich for my blood.

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I believe that that he is a special player. Um,

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think he's gonna get a guy that

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>can touch the ball more than you know, ten times

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a game. And you know, if you want to roll

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the dice and having high production, if a guy with

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>a guy only touching the ball ten times, I think

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>they're going to throw the ball a lot. I think

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>they're going to use both tight ends. I think Howard

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>is going to be the goal line guy. He's the

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>guy that they're going to rely on to be the

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>running back. And I believe that Trt Cone is going

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to be you know, there's gonna be times and I mean,

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>we know this is gonna happen. He's gonna do something

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>in the preseason. He's gonna rip off some big screen

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>pass for seventy five yards and everyone's gonna freak out.

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna go up even higher, which just means I'm

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>just probably not gonna have him on any of my teams.

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I like watching him play football, and I think he's

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a special football player, but I think in that system,

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>his body type, um, he's just not going to touch

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the ball enough for me to target him where he's going.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I like him, like, don't get me wrong, but it's

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>just his his draft value is is it's way out

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of whack of what I think he's going to be.

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I agree with every word he just said, every word

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>of it. Yeah, especially the price that you have to pay.

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's going inside the top sixty right now

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>in NFFC draft, so that would make him a fifth

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>round pick, which is crazy. But what people are looking

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>at the template for him to pay off that draft

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>price and maybe even surpass it, is looking at what

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>guys like Duke Johnson did last year, Guys like Chris

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Thompson who on a per game basis, Chris Thompson was

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>RB eleven regardless standard PPR because he scored a lot

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>of touchdowns. He's incredibly explosive, and we know what kind

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>of explosiveness Trekon has. Remember last year, Gregg, in the

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>first month, we were talking about should we trade Jordan

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Howard to get trek Cohen because of how explosive and

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>how often a rate he was scoring touchdowns and how

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>many targets he was getting in the past game. Last year,

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Duke Johnson in half point PPR formats finishes the RB fifteen.

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>He needed ninety three targets, seventy four receptions, se receiving yards,

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and seven total touchdowns to make it happened. It really

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>comes down to do you think trereco and can come

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>close to kind of duplicating numbers like that in this

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Bears offense. And I leaned towards what U I said.

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I think, Look, you don't bring in a guy like

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Allen Robinson, you don't bring in a Tray Burton, you

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>don't draft and Anthony Miller. You don't talk up Lorton

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Howard right now in training camps of three down back

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>and then still expect those kind of numbers as Treco

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm kind of in the camp where you've

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>got the star if you have to use a top

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>sixty pick on Thorecon and that's just way too high

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. But you wrote, U, Duke Johnson. You

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>wrought up Duke Johnson and everything that he did last year,

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>but everything needed to break right for Duke Johnson to

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>get there. I agree with you. Well, question, is canna

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>happen again? Duke for Duke Johnson? Because I know, going

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>in the last year, a bunch of people were off

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>with Duke Johnson. They just kind of didn't want to

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>get in on that, you know, and week one, the

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>lines of it as a wide receiver, We're all like,

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>what the hell is going on? And as the year

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>went along, Frame mentioned it, everything felt right. The rounds

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>were down in every game, and the utilize are passing

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>down back. But this Cleveland offense is very very different now,

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>right that you have so many more weapons. You have

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Josh Gordon back, maybe, you have Jarvis Landry for sure,

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you have Carlos Hide, you have Nick Chubb, you have

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>David and Joko Y're older, you have Tyrod Taylor. All

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>this is just more. I don't it's quantity. I don't

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>know what the quality will be. But I'll say this,

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm higher and Jarvis Landry than most. I want to

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about that with you probably another day. But when

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it comes to Duke Johnson, Frankie, can he repeat, can

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>everything goes right as it did last year to go

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>where his draft stock currently is. I don't think that

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>everything can go right as it did for Duke Johnson

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>last year. I mentioned he had seven total touchdowns. Isaiic

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>ll only had two touchdowns for the Browns last year.

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>That's not gonna happen again. So they went out and

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>they got Carlos Hide. They drafted Nick Chubb for a reason.

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>So those guys are I think, are gonna be in

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>there closer to the goal line inside the twenties. Don't

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, Duke Johnson will score his touchdowns. Maybe

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>he'll get a handful of five or six. But I'll

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>say this, at Duke Johnson's price at pick eighty nine

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>right now, going around the top ninety and a PPR league,

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm much more apt to take him than I am

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>to take it to Ricon. And it's not a knock

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>against the ricohen But I still think, like everything they've

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>said about Duke Johnson is he's going to continue to

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>have his role ninety three targets. That might be a

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit steep, but I still think sixty plus perceptions

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>is within the within the realm of possibility for him.

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>We've seen Tyrod Taylor throw a bunch of Shawn McCoy

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>when he was playing with Buffalo. Whether he's in there,

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield, having a guy like Duke Johnson next to

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you as a security blanket, I don't worry about that.

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I just worry about him maybe replicating the touchdowns. I

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think he gets there. Maybe he gets four or five,

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>but sixty plus perceptions is still doable for Duke Johnson.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.479
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this, I don't even I don't even want

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>him at that price. I think it's even rich from

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>my blood both three around around, I'm gonna go into

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the four point PPR and a half point. I understand

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>why you might do it right, but in this nff

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>C a d P, if you're getting him around pick

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>ninety sixty plus reception and is out of a guy

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in the what would that be like the eighth ninth

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>round as your flanks y R before. I'm fine with that.

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>In a PPR league, I don't think he's getting sixty.

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you look at the team like, okay, yeah,

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Tyrod Taylor through to Lashaw Mccoyla Sean McCoy didn't come

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>off the field, There's two running backs that are probably

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 1>going to play in front of Duke Johnson, and who

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>do they have catching short passes. Last year, nobody, nobody.

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>So now they've got if Gordon plays and they got

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>him on the outside, They've got Landry, they got Joeku.

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Carlo's hyde proof last year he can catch the ball.

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.439
<v Speaker 1>So you mean I don't know, I don't. I don't

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>think he even I don't think he'll even touch fifty.

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And for me, like he's another again the Duke Johnson

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>is a player that I like. I think in the

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>right system, on the right team, he's a guy that

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>that could produce um. But this happens every year though,

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, because of circumstances. They get more plays, they

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>get more touches, they get more looks. This year, I

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 1>don't feel he's gonna get that just because of the

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>wealth of talent there now. He's not going to get

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.919
<v Speaker 1>that unless all those injuries happen again, which is something

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>he can't bank on, but is now his draft stock

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>is way up because of what he did last year,

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>because of the perfect circumstances. It's not gonna happen again.

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna have him on any of my teams either,

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>even though I like him as a player. What that

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know the one So I agree again everything you said.

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>The one caveat I have is they didn't give him

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>a contract extension like the Browns despite signing Carlos I,

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>despite drafting Nick Chump or before that, even they gave

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>dud Johnson this pretty large extension. I have to imagine

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 1>they're going to use him and utilize him as much

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>as they should. Write you, why when they're paying the dude.

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not having anything that Cleveland Browns do in the

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>front office steer any of my decision. They drafted Johnny

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Manzel number one, so like I don't. I mean, I'm

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>sure you know it's all different staff and this, that

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and the other. I mean, they have never proven to

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>me over the last ten years is that they can

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>make a good decision. So until he's on the field,

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, fifty percent at a time, that to me

0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>is a stupid contract. Then you then go out and

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>give all that money to Carlos hein and you drop

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a running back, right. I just thinking at full point

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>PPR on five with at half point guys that have

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the starting role like Lynch Jamal Williams, I'll lean that

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.479
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0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>as well. But I wanted to hit into the strategy

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:19.320
<v Speaker 1>conversation that happened in my league last night, um because

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought we found him calling ground and they got

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>text message from where my buddies. It was just like,

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.399
<v Speaker 1>this is stupid. Okay, you can have your opinion it's fine,

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>like whatever, it's not that it's not that big of

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a deal. This person likes to make most things a

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>big deal. Whatever. So it really bothered some in our

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>league that the last place team last season was playing

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>a team that was fighting for a playoff spot. Last place.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>He's mathematically eliminated. He's out. It's literally week thirteen. He

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>has quite a bit of his fab left. That's why

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>he came in last He wasn't trying hard enough. Whatever.

0:37:55.560 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>In week thirteen, he spends like sixty bucks on like

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore defense, which is the hot defense, and say that

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>week and everyone's like, are you kidding me? Like now,

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 1>now you're spending your money on a freaking Baltimore defense.

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>You're a last place, you're mathematically eliminated. There are obviously

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>all the playoff found teams they wanted Baltimore defense. So

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I've always been in the camp and this is what

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I voted for that you have every right to play

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.399
<v Speaker 1>to the end. You play as hard as you can

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to the end you want. You're playing spoiler the whole deal,

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and they should be allowed to do that. There is

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:32.479
<v Speaker 1>a last place punishment the whole deal. So the vote

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 1>happened in my league to lock team's abilities to pick

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>up players once they're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. Now

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that actually one, and everyone was up in arms, saying, wait,

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>this is not how It is not what I meant,

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>this is not what I wanted to vote for. I'm wrong,

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.359
<v Speaker 1>So can we change this? So the conversation went back

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.919
<v Speaker 1>and forth, and everyone agreed, you can't have a last

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>place punishment. You can't ask people to continue to look

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>at their teams and compete if you limit their abilities

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to pick players. But what they ultimately decided was what

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 1>we call the middle ground. You're allowed to pick up

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a player, but they're gonna wipe your once you're mathematically

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>eliminated from the playoffs. The commission is gonna wipe your

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>fab zero, not give it to anybody. They're gonna wipe

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the fab zero. So the teams that are actually competing

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>for the playoffs have the best chance at acquiring a player.

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 1>That was the middle ground. That was a compromise, and

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 1>that seems to be what's going to be instituted. I

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get both of your thoughts on that rule

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and on this process of what you guys think should happen.

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll start with you first off, is this a keeper

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.399
<v Speaker 1>or redraft? He's a redraft league, an auction redraft league,

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.359
<v Speaker 1>redraft league, all right, So yeah, I think it makes

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 1>more sense the way that you guys handled it. It's

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>tough because like, as long as a person has FAB,

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>like I truly believe, you shouldn't be able to take

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>away their ability to do so. I mean we have

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>a similar problem like that in our league, where because

0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>we have a consolation bracket in the playoffs, that matters. Yeah,

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 1>it actually matters, Like the first and second place team

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>of the constellation bracket get to choose their draft picks

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 1>the next season. So it's still that people are still

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>interested playing in the playoffs playing out the rest of

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the season, but we had to implement a rule where,

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, people playing in the consolation bracket can't use

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 1>their FAB. So very very similar. Yeah, but I mean

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's similar, but not because you're still part of

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>like the regular season, Like and you said that there's

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>a last place punishment. So in the league like that,

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that you can completely take away the

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>use of someone's FAB. But like in a constellation bracket,

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I have no problem taking away fat because the people

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>who were actually competing for the championship should have first

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and all DIBs at players available using their FAB and

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that it's the same scenario. Basically, you're just

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.320
<v Speaker 1>moving it up a little bit. You want teams that

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 1>are fighting for the playoffs to have I'm saying you

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>could be I have no chance based on points making. Basically, mathematically,

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 1>this guy had all FAB left because he didn't pay

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.240
<v Speaker 1>attention to all the year. If you have sixty dollars

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>FAB left by week thirteen, that means you did something

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>wrong and that's probably why you're in the position that

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you're in, right, So to use all of that on

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a defense, Yes, it was. It was. It was annoying,

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>and I understand, I agree honestly what it is. So

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that's why we came up with the compromise. I'm not

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>saying I agree with it. I voted, especially if the

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>reason why he did it was malissias. He wanted to

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>screw the person over, and it makes that gives you

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>even more of a reason to want to implement a rule.

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with it to me, I mean,

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>it's the right move to me, and that thing is,

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>then kick that guy out of the league. I mean,

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>if he's not paying attention, he's leaving all of us fat.

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>He's not playing to come out of the league. The

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 1>fact that you have to implement these stupid rules. First

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of all, there there is a punishment for a last place,

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>so then it shouldn't take away your ability to do

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>anything at any time, at any point. And in the

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 1>same if they're playing for the draft picks and the consolation,

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>if you're still playing, I don't care. I could be twelve,

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I still play every week like I'm

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to win. I've always played that way. Everyone should

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>play it that way. The right move in this instant

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>is not make up stupid rules where you take away

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>people's ability to play the game. I'm sure. I don't

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>know if there's an entry fee, but maybe there is,

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's not. But the fact that there's a penalty

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>for getting last place, okay, well there is, Well that

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>guy paid. Yeah, the only right thing to do is

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:21.240
<v Speaker 1>to kick him out of the league. If it's not playing.

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>To get rid of him, I'm sure you can find

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody else to play. I mean, fantasy football is one

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>of the most popular things in the United States right now,

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 1>find another player. That guy's an idiot. So I guess

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>text message from the person that was texting me about

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it last night he says, thank you very young, So

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:39.320
<v Speaker 1>there there, there you go. Um. And his argument was that, listen,

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>if there's three teams finding the playoffs that you know,

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>he the last place team was playing somebody, then it's

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a huge impact in the playoff race. Even though he's

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>mathematically eliminated, he has a huge, huge effect on the

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>playoffs rate, on the playoff race. He should be allowed

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to do ever you can to affect it because that's

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:57.839
<v Speaker 1>teams that are in the playoff race that are boo

0:42:57.880 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>hooing because this guy has fat. Well, then you should

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.359
<v Speaker 1>held on to your fab money sort of like you mean,

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:07.439
<v Speaker 1>like that's how it works. Like that's how it works. Sorry, Yeah,

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>we can find you another player for your league, I

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>mean from Leland. I mean, we we have people around Greg.

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.879
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I listen, I agree with that. I'm never

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm never in enough leagues. Let's make I'm gonna make

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you come back to New York for it, though I'll

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.439
<v Speaker 1>be there all all weekend. That's that's the big That's

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the big topic is what are we doing? What are

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>we getting into? I'm there Friday, Saturday, Sunday and until

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Monday at two o'clock. Just prepare, Just prepare yourselves. What

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>are you doing next week? I think we're around Friday night.

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>I returned from Myrtle Beach Friday during the day, but

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I could probably be around during the nighttime. Saturday is

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 1>my anniversary, so that's tough. Friday night, I could probably

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 1>be around. I just realized you're not here a week

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 1>next week. Huh, it's gonna be Greg and e y

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 1>week next week has a job. This is this is

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more important than ours too, not more.

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not more important. It's just time consuming. It's just

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>times exactly. See you. I'm gonna go out there and

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>say it's more important. What where is Floria Studio? If

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 1>you're not in l A, corr you back and like,

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>come on, I might have it, might be getting I

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 1>don't even think he's he might be in l A

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>by next week. I think he's there this week. Might

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>call him after the show. Um, okay, we have about

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>ten minutes left. I want to take your calls. Eight

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<v Speaker 1>four four eight four three six seven nine. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>start with Kevin in Chicago. What's up Kevin? Hey, guys,

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>three quick things. First of all, I love the show obviously, Um,

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>happy anniversary or Frank just talking out heard definitely, and

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I love your work man anytime he was cutting a

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 1>promo all about it. So that's all I wanted to say.

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>They're yeah, and then just kind of seguing, um, what

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>you guys just talking about. I don't have a question

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:56.360
<v Speaker 1>about draft, but really quick, I'm always strict about the

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.360
<v Speaker 1>guys in my league playing being commissioner in one of

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>my leagues, and I just really had to let go

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:02.919
<v Speaker 1>two guys because there's two years in a row they've

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 1>just kind of messed it up. I'm not said lineups, um,

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and I just want to get you guys a quick

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to pay on this. As professioner, I always send a

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 1>text to come Thursday morning or afternoon, Hey, set your

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 1>line up? Remember to set your line up? And and

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I do that even if the guy's playing me, because

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I want is that something that should be doing? Or yeah,

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you're a man, but you shouldn't have to send text.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Get rid of those guys. I know it takes it

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:25.879
<v Speaker 1>with a phone like everyone's got a smartphone. It takes

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>ten seconds. Get rid of those dominants that bother That

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>bothers me more than anything. Like they blame the commissioner

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>when someone does nothing their line up. It's something. It's

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>not a job. Man. You have a smart phone, and

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I know like e y is, as Frank just said,

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 1>one of the busiest guys. We know. He's always he's

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.319
<v Speaker 1>always on the road, he's always working because that that's

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>his job. But when he's not physically in the ring,

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>he can very easily check his phone and just make

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>sure dude is playing. It doesn't take that long. I'm sorry. No,

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>you do not send out text messages. You shouldn't have

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 1>to do that. That's not part of your job description

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>as the commissioner. If people are invested in your league,

0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and they should be. If you play fantasy football, you

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 1>should be in vested in your league. Whether you're oh

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:04.240
<v Speaker 1>and twelve like EU I said, you should still be invested.

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.879
<v Speaker 1>You're setting your lineups. This happened once in my league

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 1>where I had to start texting the person. I thought

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I would never do it from the end of the season.

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 1>The next year. This is my home league, the one

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 1>that is as close as to my heart as possible.

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I had to kick this guy out of the league.

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>And he's one of my close friends as well, and

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I had to do it and he didn't understand why.

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, look, dude, you didn't set your line

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:23.319
<v Speaker 1>up three weeks in a row while people are trying

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:24.879
<v Speaker 1>to play for the playoffs, and that could have made

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a difference. So if it comes down to we, you

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>just got to get rid of those people in your league.

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't be the one to have to send text

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 1>messages out ever. Yeah, if I if I made up

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>bed Frank on that. No. I literally had to follow

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>my buddy of mine. I grew up with this guy

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>where four years old, we broke together and everything, and

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:41.919
<v Speaker 1>he's been in a league I'm running for the start

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of it, and uh, I had out him go and

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it was the most awkward phone conversation I've ever had.

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>And uh, those two guys I had to cut. He

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>was one of them. And I said, and it's two

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:50.319
<v Speaker 1>years in a row now, like we can't have it.

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:52.439
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it was a little awkward at first,

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>but you know what, at the end of the day,

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 1>if I have a ten team league that's gonna play

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>at ten teams. Sucks about twelve, but time quality guys

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that are playing I take any day over the twelve.

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>You know you're more of a man than I am.

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Because you called the guy I did it over text.

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 1>It was it was really hard to do. But uh,

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>if I'm out of the the time, I understand you. It

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>was called back in the day. Um, and I asked

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that question about the draft. Let what was your question? Man,

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you're on the fello, let's go. It's up. Well, okay,

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:20.759
<v Speaker 1>now I'll be quick. Um. Yeah. So you know, when

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 1>it comes to draft day, a lot of times, you know,

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.360
<v Speaker 1>especially with me, a lot of stuff you tell yourself

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>calls out the one that when you're on the clock

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 1>it's different. So let's say I'm sitting there in a

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 1>full point PTR and I end up taking two receivers

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.359
<v Speaker 1>off of that, which is something I usually don't do.

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 1>But if that happens, what's someone in the third between

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>third and fourth round that you guys feel really good

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 1>about finger number one running back? Like, I know that

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 1>there's guys still working around like McCoy and even Lynch.

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.320
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to somewhere in the fourth I believe,

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 1>So I don't wanna. I don't want to um board

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in France's mouth, so I'll let you answer Frank. But

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:53.359
<v Speaker 1>now you mentioned Marshall Lynch there, Kevin and no Frase

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 1>also stupidly high up on Alex Collins who who goes

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>around the same range as well. What are there any

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 1>other names? Frank? Yeah, I like Kenyan Drake as well

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>in the third fourth round swing. I worry a little

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>bit about Frank Gore being there, and you mentioned Marshall

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Lynch fourth round. Now you can get him in the seventh,

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>eighth round. Don't worry about that, especially in a ten

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 1>team league. Even guys like Rare Shad Penny, the rookie

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>there with the Seattle Seahawks. I'm not worried about Chris Carson.

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna be the work horse there. And

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>all this talk about Darius guys getting more work in

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the passing game, and we're talking about Chris Thompson, you know,

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.800
<v Speaker 1>being worried to run and get tackled by opposing players,

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know the injury history that he has. As

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 1>much as Darius guy is gonna play, he can easily

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>fall into thirty to forty receptions and in the PPR League,

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 1>if he does that on top of the rushing production

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and the touchdowns, we expect that of him. I think

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 1>he's a fine third and fourth round pick as well.

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 1>All Right, so there you go. It's Kevin in Chicago.

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 1>You have a question for us or a comment based

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>on uh the strate teager conversation we're talking about eight

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.879
<v Speaker 1>four four eight four three seven nine. Nember to join

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in is eight four four eight four three six eight

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:56.840
<v Speaker 1>seven nine. I want to go into our our YouTube

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 1>chat room now and ask you guys or answer a

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 1>questions that you've had so we would get more into that.

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I would have Florio and and I want to stick

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to my word there. So, uh, if you have a

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 1>question your emis quality fight four three seven nine, you

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>can do that or you could ask it in the

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:17.959
<v Speaker 1>YouTube chat right now. Uh. First question we have really

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.959
<v Speaker 1>at you Frank Lynch in the fourth Can I please

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>join your league? Well that was at the caller's question

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 1>because he mentioned Lynch in the fourth, But I think

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>any once we get to the seventh round, I'm completely

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 1>fine with Lynch. I've mentioned it before. I mean he's

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.359
<v Speaker 1>going outside the top thirty at running back right now.

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Last year only need two hundred and seven carries to

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.400
<v Speaker 1>finish this RB twenty, So I think he's gonna be

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>in that to twenty to two D and forty carrie

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 1>range even that offensive line. As many touchdowns as he's

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:46.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna score, I think that will be fine enough for

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>him to pay off top twenty four value this season. Eric,

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>As I go back into the PPR running backs here,

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.839
<v Speaker 1>we had mentioned and you had mentioned specifically, um Jack

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>McKinnon with San Francisco and how high everybody is and

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:00.360
<v Speaker 1>was on him. That leads me to Matt Brita, and

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 1>we talk about PBR running backs and and Frank he

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 1>believed if Floria leaves a chance Matt Brita sometime we'll

0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>have more value than Jared mckinning. Where do you feel

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>comfortable drafting Matt Brita. Jeez, that's tough. I I did

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 1>uh see a report the other day that said all

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:21.840
<v Speaker 1>three backs including Joe Williams, is looking good. Um, but

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 1>they said that Matt Brida is the best running back

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>on the team right now, which is is pretty crazy

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 1>to think, uh to me, I mean, I don't know

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the weights and stuff, but he looked even more slight

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 1>than McKinnon. So, uh, that's something that that worries me.

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>At the running back position. He's a smaller guy and

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>like look like m J D and you know guys

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like that. Like I'm not talking about short, I'm just

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 1>talking about frame wise, Like he's a very slight human being.

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So that worries me. But Matt Breeda, if you're a

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>guy that believes that San Francisco's offense is gonna be

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>what everyone thinks it's gonna be, I'm not in that boat.

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Matt Breed is a guy that you can get in

0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>late rounds. That could be good. He could be the

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 1>past catcher. I don't know, but I mean with McKinnon there,

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe in McKinnon. I think he's gonna have a

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.360
<v Speaker 1>big year. Um he's a shorter guy too, but it

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>is built Like I mean, you see all these videos

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of him in the weight room. He's a beast man.

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 1>He's a beast. If he stays healthy, I think he

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.879
<v Speaker 1>has a big year. And I still have this weird

0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:20.879
<v Speaker 1>feeling about Joe Williams. All right, Joelians your boy this year?

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough? Hey? Tamon Austin back up running back in Dallas.

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna say, maybe maybe you were year early May.

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Who was a year early New Year? We're gonna find out.

0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Spencer in Baltimore. What's up Spence? Hey, guys,

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 1>love the show, Thanks for having me. What's going on? Alright?

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>So quick question? Um, that's just before, but it's kind

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 1>of developing. I mean a ten man keeper league PPR. Okay,

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I have Kareem Hunt in the sixth round. Um, now

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 1>my my dilema is I can go DJ and then

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 1>come back. But because of all the keepers, my number

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 1>one receiver would be looking like Amari Cooper, t Y Hilton.

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 1>But if I do an Tonio Brown, I could come

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 1>back and snag Joe John may Sin and Darius guys.

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:02.320
<v Speaker 1>So I was trying to see where you guys have

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that on that if I should just go DJ, pair

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>him up with Kareem and Frank you're the guy that

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:11.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of analyzed the picture. What what pick do you

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 1>have in the draft? I have? Third, are those guys

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:20.839
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed to be there? Which David Johnson and Antonio Brown

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>are both guaranteed to be there? Yeah? Yeah, the first

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 1>two are gonna go leve On and Todd Gurley. All right,

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 1>So if you have Kareem Hunt as your sixth round

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 1>pick as your keeper already, I have no problem taking

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown. I think Antonio Brown versus David Johnson is

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<v Speaker 1>close enough in a PPR that if you pair Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>Brown with Kareem Hunt and then come back and just

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<v Speaker 1>take the best player available, whether it's running back, wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that a little bit more. Greg. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you wholeheartedly. Everybody. We have about two minutes left.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to end with you because you were tweeting.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was earlier this morning about your love

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<v Speaker 1>for Bryce Butler this year, how let's not get carried away.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not love. And I know when you put

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<v Speaker 1>up stuff, everyone's like, oh, you can't pick. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like the last pick. You know, you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a deep you know, a twelve team,

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<v Speaker 1>a fourteen team, maybe a Best Ball league. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who the other wide receiver I like to me

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<v Speaker 1>like I used to like J. J. Nelson, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's proven that he's not really a thing. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not a very big guy. Someone's got to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside. Someone's got to catch touchdowns. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know Ricky Seals Jones. Uh, you know, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a big step forward. But someone's gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>it a receiver. And Bryce Butler is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you saw him when he played, which

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<v Speaker 1>was very little for the Dallas Cowboys, he looked good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's physically physically, he's a beast. He's tall, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a big body. He ran like a four three seven forties,

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<v Speaker 1>so he can run. Uh And we don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you can catch or not because he's barely played. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a real weird feeling about it. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>second to last, you know, last round or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or the first guy. You might pick him up on

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<v Speaker 1>the waive wire, but I forgot a feeling after a

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<v Speaker 1>week one, unless you got the number one priority, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get him. So that's a guy just to

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<v Speaker 1>keep on. Now. That's a real sleeper, not like oh

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<v Speaker 1>like Tariko and you Y taking the stab with Brice Butler.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I don't mind it. In the best

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<v Speaker 1>ball format, you guys gotta take guys that you think

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<v Speaker 1>have the upside, and that's your Scott Man alight. I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna appreciate, appreciate you coming on as always. We'll do

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<v Speaker 1>it again soon for Frank Staffle. I'm Greg Susman to

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<v Speaker 1>of US move back tomorrow, we hope