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Speaker 1: The volume What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecoff three

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Speaker 1: and out podcast, little something we try to do every Saturday.

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Speaker 1: We call it a little weekend mail bag edition. It's

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Speaker 1: audio only. We don't even put it on the YouTube's

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Speaker 1: so at John Middlecoff, is the old Instagram fire in

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Speaker 1: those dms? Get your question answered here right in this show?

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Speaker 1: And uh, and yeah, it was good little Friday recording

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Speaker 1: this at about uh in the is that even considered

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Speaker 1: the afternoon? Was it the gym earlier today? And uh,

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Speaker 1: just listen to, you know, some music on the on

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Speaker 1: the StairMaster and look up and I see McAfee talking

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Speaker 1: to Siriani. So I take my phone and I go

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Speaker 1: to YouTube TV and I watched the interview. It is

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Speaker 1: amazing what winning does for people's happiness in a building.

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Speaker 1: I would put it right up there with like getting laid.

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Speaker 1: I mean, talk about putting a smile on any human's face.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to football, there's nothing like winning. And

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Speaker 1: I remember being in buildings in college and the pros.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than losing. I mean that walking into

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Speaker 1: that building the day after a loss absolutely sucks. But

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Speaker 1: getting up after a win, you could see it on

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Speaker 1: Sirianni's face. It's not even just eight and two, it's that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice little win on Thursday night football and

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Speaker 1: one of fifteen million people basically probably win the division,

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Speaker 1: which I'm gonna win for the second time now in

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Speaker 1: three years. So, like I said the other day, listen,

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Speaker 1: just over the course of his going for it. Definitely

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Speaker 1: things are going well, that's when you should be a

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Speaker 1: little quieter. But you know, he's been pretty pretty bostful

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Speaker 1: going well. He's definitely, you know, snapping on the fans

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Speaker 1: this year, but I don't know, maybe the last couple

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Speaker 1: So that was that was a nice commanding win last

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Speaker 1: night in the second half. Okay, start with Nick for

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Speaker 1: the bag. I can't help but compare this season to

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve. Both twelve and twenty four saw a generational,

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Speaker 1: number two by Washington. Do you see any parallel to

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Speaker 1: RG three Luck with Caleb and Jaden through ten weeks?

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Speaker 1: Jayden seems like the better player by far, but so

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Speaker 1: did RG three over Luck. Not sure I bet on

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Speaker 1: Caleb being better than Jaden long term, but it's interesting

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Speaker 1: to compare. Yeah, I mean love the show. I also

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Speaker 1: active duty officer in the Navy station in San Diego

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Speaker 1: and at proud Ohio State Alumni season ticket holder. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: your service, big guy. Enjoy San Diego because there aren't

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Speaker 1: many cities better in the world. I'll promise you that.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully, when you're not grinding on the base or

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Speaker 1: when you look at the comps, Andrew Luck was just

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck's the best prospect of the last twenty plus years.

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Speaker 1: would you rather be make ten or twelve million dollars?

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's hard to turn that down, but I think

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Speaker 1: difficult to compare. RG three was also a better player

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Speaker 1: as a as a talent. Love the pod from a

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Speaker 1: fellow Sacramento area guy. Nine to one six. I'll sleep

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Speaker 1: on the same kramenal Kings. Do you think Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: He had Sean Payton in the building, didn't get him.

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Speaker 1: He had Dan Campbell in the building, didn't get him. Right,

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Speaker 1: He's had some guys in his backyard. And then I

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Speaker 1: then because the Cowboys were winning. You know, part of

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Speaker 1: it's not Micah Parsons, it's Deon fucking Sanders. So Jerry

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Speaker 1: the smartest trade away you're developing quarterback's favorite target. But

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Speaker 1: But i'd say Sean Payton, now, that wasn't exactly I

426
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: would say that Drew Brees offense. Obviously they did take shots,

427
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: but nothing when you think of the Sean Payton Drew

428
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: Brees offense that dominate for a long period of time,

429
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: to me, it was much more rhythm, timing and just

430
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: incredible play calling by the quarterback and the head coach.

431
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: I mean, Drew By once he hit his stride, was

432
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: basically you know, the extension of Sean Payton, and they

433
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: were playing chess against you, and a lot of that

434
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: was like they were just getting guys open NonStop, and

435
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: that they deserve a lot of credit for it. But

436
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: I hear you like, this guy can't get any better.

437
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: Why because he's twenty four to twenty five years old.

438
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: Of course he can't. And I think where you get better,

439
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: is getting more confident, getting more comfortable against the NFL speed.

440
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: You know, I have Stucky on, who's a big Ravens guy,

441
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: and we were going through the raven Steeler game and

442
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: he was giving out the numbers of how good the

443
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: Steelers have been against Lamar Jackson. Well, why are they

444
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: good against Lamar Jackson? They're comfortable playing against them? Right?

445
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: They see him twice? TJ. Watt has seen him? How

446
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: many times they see him on film? Constantly on crossfilm.

447
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: They just study that team, their coaching staff, and their

448
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: players honestly year round. Where if you're like the forty

449
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: nine ers or Seattle or Detroit or whoever a random team, which,

450
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: as Stucky was saying, he's dominated the NFC, it's like

451
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: what am I doing here? Well, it's no different as

452
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: a player if I do have the skill set and listen,

453
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: bo Next has definitely gotten better and definitely looks more

454
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: comfortable as time goes on. Should be able to master

455
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: certain things, whether that's the fifteen plays that are my

456
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: go tos I and I become a MA and I

457
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: become an A plus running those plays. I get a

458
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 1: lot more comfortable against pressures. I develop more instincts against

459
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: pass rushers. I have a better feel of when to

460
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: run when not to run, so you just naturally improve

461
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: that way, right, Like what do you think the Ravens

462
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: hammered with Lamar over the last five years in OTAs

463
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: and training, think how much and even during the season

464
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: they work on just pocket passing right, being comfortable in

465
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: the pocket. And it's just clear like he didn't just

466
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: get better randomly. It's something that happens over time, right,

467
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: And I would say this for any sport. It's like, God,

468
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: this guy is way better at at X, Y and

469
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: Z in the NBA and base ball, tennis, player, golfer,

470
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: you name it. Well, I would imagine they work on

471
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: it a lot. You drill it over and over. So

472
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: he has an excellent coach who is an offensive guy.

473
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: He definitely can improve. I think the ceiling conversation goes, well,

474
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: his ceiling is never going to be Josh Allen or

475
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. Well, yeah, no shit, Just like Drew Brees

476
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: could never be as good as Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.

477
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: He didn't have their physical capabilities, but he could master

478
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: and I would say maximize his abilities, right, Like Drew

479
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: brees whatever his abilities were on a pie chart, right,

480
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: so one hundred percent on the pie chart some guys,

481
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: and I would say this works for any walk of life.

482
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 1: Some people get the most out of it right and

483
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: do everything humanly possible to get into the ninety ninety

484
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: five percent of just fulfilled all of my God given

485
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: abilities at whatever I do. And I would say most

486
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: of that is either through effort, work right, repetition, and

487
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: some people just like, yeah, don't really work that hard,

488
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: and maybe they're talented enough to get by for a

489
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: long period of time. And I think the argument with

490
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: bo Nicks would be he wouldn't be talented enough. That

491
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: was the thing with Caleb. It's like, guys, this guy

492
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: can move, he's got a cannon. He'll just even if

493
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: he's a little hit or missed as a rookie, he's

494
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: got so much talent and you're watching him, it's like,

495
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: where the hell's that talent? And to me, part a

496
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: huge part of that is he's lost his confidence. He

497
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: doesn't even know what he's doing. But I think bo Nicks,

498
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: I guess a long winded way of saying, I feel

499
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: pretty good if I were you. It's also why you

500
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: draft high character guys, because high character guys work, and

501
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: when you draft guys like Saquan's a good example, Saquan's

502
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: characters a plus. And this guy was dealt a pretty

503
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: shitty hand in terms of I mean, getting drafted too

504
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: is cool, and he made a lot of money being

505
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: a high draft pick, but he went to a terrible

506
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: team and they weren't well run, and a lot of

507
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: guys would just kind of stop working. I mean, it'd

508
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: be human nature for most people to just you just

509
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: didn't quite have the drive. It just it could just

510
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: drive you. I would say, maybe did not love the

511
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: game as much. And you watch him now with the Eagles,

512
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: you go, God, this guy showed a lot of mental

513
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: fortitude because to maintain his level of play the work

514
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: ethic that it takes in the offseason, he wouldn't have

515
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: been able to screw around, and that was always his thing,

516
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: Like you know, obviously in the gym, he was incredible,

517
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: and people just raved about the human being, like how

518
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: serious he took this shit. And it's very reflective because

519
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even have blamed him if he would have

520
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: lost it, because he just kind of lost focus. I

521
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: wanted to briefly weigh in on the noon kickoff topic.

522
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: As someone with two young children and work in the morning,

523
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: I personally loathe my home teams, Michigan and Lions when

524
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: they play at night. This game happens during bedtime, so

525
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: I have to pause the game for thirty minutes. Then

526
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: I have to catch a break, or then I have

527
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: to catch back up by fast forwarding through the commercials.

528
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: Then I also have to sacrifice sleep and be more

529
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: tired for the next day at work. I love when

530
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: Michigan plays at noon and the Lions play at one

531
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: Millennial right here. Yeah, I think the majority of people

532
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: complaining on the Internet are people that go to the games.

533
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest No one complains about the

534
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: NFL because you play it all different times. But I

535
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: think when it comes to Ohio State, who's you know,

536
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: the lead dog right now bitching and moaning about the

537
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: noon kickoff. It's not a bunch. It's not a j

538
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Hawk sitting at home watching the game on his TV.

539
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: Right It's not the sixty year old Ohio State fan

540
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: who went to school there in the late seventies. It's

541
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: the people on campus or the season ticket holders because

542
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: going to a game at night is just a little

543
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: cooler in terms of the environment, but I hear you

544
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Living in Charleston, South Carolina. Hot as hell

545
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: out here as well, but a great city, solid food,

546
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: and awesome golf. Maria has been watching this show called

547
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: Southern Charm, and I don't know how she found it,

548
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: but she started at season one. She's like, there's nine seasons, Like, well,

549
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: what year are we watching right now? Is like twenty fourteen.

550
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if I can do this.

551
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: I should probably just read a book. Want to touch base?

552
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: But it's it's I think the show's based in Charleston.

553
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: A bunch of rich people want to touch base on

554
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: the Texans. This one guy, actually I did watch a

555
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: couple episodes. He's like this rich businessman who wants to

556
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: run I mean, this is a long time ago now

557
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm in almost a decade maybe a decade ago, who

558
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: wants to run for political office, who just got out

559
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: of jail for like selling cocaine. It's like, what is

560
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: he's dating. He's fifty and he's dating a twenty one

561
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: year old redhead. Are we sure I want to touch

562
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: base on the Texans? Are we sure they're good? Going

563
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: back to this offseason so far, this year easiest schedule

564
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: in the league. Last year, lost to the Jets, lost

565
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: to the Panthers, take a drop by the Colts player

566
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: in an epic jabs Jacks collapse for them to make

567
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Then against the Browns Flacco through how many

568
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: pick sixes wasn't even a game. Speaking of Flacco, if

569
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: he starts for the Colts this year, the Texans probably

570
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: lose both of those games their offense gets figured out

571
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: at halftime. I do think they will be good in

572
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: the future, and I like Demiko, but this year was

573
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: always going to be tough for them. Go Bills, you know,

574
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: I think Nico Collins to them. I mean, honestly, he's

575
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: their best player, so you remove their best player. It's

576
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: been a pretty big kicking the dick for them because

577
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: they looked a lot better when he was playing, and

578
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: since he's left, their offense has been bad. And to me,

579
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: Bobby Slow, it gets a little pass happy. It's like, Bobby,

580
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: you've learned from Kyle run the ball. Like if I'm Demko,

581
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: it's like, I get you like Bobby Slow and your

582
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: boys with them. Bobby call outside and inside zone three

583
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: straight times on this drive to start it off. No passes.

584
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: See if we can get a first down, and then

585
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: you know what, let's run it a couple more times.

586
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: Just settle everyone down. Instead, he's calling passes NonStop, and

587
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: CD's running for his life because the garden centers can't block.

588
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the left guard position is gonna get CJ killed,

589
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: and then CJ's confidence starts weighing. I think their defense

590
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: is pretty good. I just think Slowick just gets a

591
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: little pass happy for my liking. I mean, call me

592
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: old school. You know, I'm just a forty year old

593
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: millennial here, but I got no problem passing all the

594
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: time when you have sweet wide receivers and you can block.

595
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: But when your offensive line can't block anybody and you're

596
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: missing wide receiver's injury and one of the best players

597
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: on your team is Joe Mixon, have him hand him

598
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: the fucking ball. I'd be cool with the having him

599
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: like have thirty five carries in a given game and

600
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: say he's like, pass it again, CJ. It's like, what

601
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: do you think is gonna happen? Your take on Chase

602
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: Jefferson debate was interesting about Jamar obviously has the superior quarterback,

603
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: which factors into his success. My question, as a lifelong

604
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: Bengal fan, is the Aj Green Julio Jones or a

605
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: similar topic, if the two would switch teams for their

606
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: for their careers, what do you think of their legacies

607
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: would ended ending up looking like? Obviously Julio is the

608
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: consensus better wide receiver, but would that still be true

609
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: if one had played with Dalton instead of Matt Ryan.

610
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I think you know, Jefferson's first

611
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: couple of years were with Kirk Cousins, who's pretty good, right,

612
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: So Cousins. It's crazy to say, but the difference between

613
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: playing with Cousins and playing with Joe Burrow, if you're

614
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, is not really any different. Like you

615
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: can easily have one hundred and twenty catch season for

616
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred yards and fifteen touchdowns. Now, the Darnold experiment

617
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 1: will see how this plays out the rest of the year,

618
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: but I think Jefferson's had a pretty good quarterback situation.

619
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: Obviously Cousins is better and Andy Dalton, but hey, Dahltan's

620
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: pretty good. I think Julio would be the consensus pick

621
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: no matter what, Aj was pretty awesome, Like there's also

622
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: just nothing wrong about Like eventually you got to pick people, right,

623
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: It's like, who would you want Kevin Durant or Yannis? Right?

624
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: Like who would you want Aaron Judge or Mookie Bets?

625
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: Like there are gonna be a lot of people with

626
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: a pretty strong opinion, right, Like I'd rather have Mookie

627
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Bets much better on offense, way better athlete, more position versatility.

628
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: But if you're telling me I get Aaron Judge because

629
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: I got the second pick, I'm just not losing any sleep.

630
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you take Kevin, I get you, honest

631
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: fuck not losing any sleep. So it's like, yeah, coolioh Okay,

632
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: I get Aj Green. Cool. That's what I think. Like

633
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: the Jamar chase Justin Jefferson is I think most people,

634
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: including gms and coaches would take Justin Jefferson. But the

635
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: person who got the second pick of the litter, it's like, yeah, awesome, sweet,

636
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Speaker 1: where do we go from here? It's like, you get

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Speaker 1: the second pick, the first pick is Cindy Crawford. Well,

638
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: it's like you get Heidi Klom. It's like, okay, awesome,

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Speaker 1: when's our first date? It's like, uh, do you want

640
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Speaker 1: the g Wagon or the range Rover. It's like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I'll take whatever. I just think that the

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00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: gap between I mean, it's not like would you rather

643
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: have Justin Herbert or Tuatanaailoa. The person picking number two

644
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: is like, h that sucks. Would you rather live on

645
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: the ocean or the shitty inland neighborhood? Right? I mean

646
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: there are some options that are like it's this's notion,

647
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: and then there's like AJ Green and Julio Jones. It's like, yeah,

648
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: it's like when people get all up in arms. Sometimes

649
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: a boy the defensive player of the year and Unlessen

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00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: I get it because Steeler fans, you know, when TJ's

651
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: not getting the respect to Miles Garrett. Again we're nitpicking.

652
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: It's like is TJ betteran Miles? Miles better than TJ.

653
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: Like I think most people would take Miles, but I

654
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: TJ could play for my team every day of the week.

655
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: I think my Cindy Crawford Heidi Klum analogy is probably

656
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: a little dated. That's what happens when year old. Do

657
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Speaker 1: you think the Cowboys tank for the first pick in

658
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Speaker 1: the draft? In draft Travis Hunter, it would entice Deon

659
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Speaker 1: Sanders to potentially become the next head coach of the Cowboys, Well, Dion.

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Speaker 1: If Dion was their head coach, he would be their

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00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: head coach by the draft. Can you imagine if Deon

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00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: takes over a team with a number one pick, Let's

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Speaker 1: say it's Cowboys. I guess it wouldn't be as crazy

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Speaker 1: because they got Dak. And let's say Dian likes Dak,

665
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Speaker 1: but he didn't take his own son, like if he was.

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Speaker 1: If the Raiders got the number one overall pick, they

667
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Speaker 1: fired Antonio Peers hired Primetime, he would have to draft

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Speaker 1: his son one because he needs a quarterback. But if

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Speaker 1: he took Travis Hunter instead of Shador and we've talked

670
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: about this before, what Travis Hunter is doing this year.

671
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: I hate saying you'll never see, but it's literally never

672
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: happened in modern football, and I doubt it happens anytime soon.

673
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: I mean, the dude's playing like one hundred and ten

674
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty snaps a game. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: feasible in the NFL. I really don't. And a huge

676
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: reason for me is just the injuries. Like you just

677
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: the level of player you go against that corner every

678
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: week is like, Okay, who do you got this week? Oh?

679
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson? Who do you got? Next week? A Jamar Chase?

680
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: Who do you got? The following week? Ceedee Lamb? Then

681
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: who do you got? A J? Brown? Then we got

682
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: a light week dk Metcalf. Then who do you got?

683
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk Puka Nakula. It's like when

684
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: do I ever get a breath? And so you know

685
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: wherever Travis goes, if at corner, he would be the

686
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: number one, and honestly he would just follow that guy

687
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: and then he's just gonna play full time wide receiver.

688
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's feasible, and it has nothing to

689
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Speaker 1: do with that He's not I mean on the short list.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would say the best athletes of all time,

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00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: obviously like Michael Jordan and Lebron James, individual athletes in

692
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: their sport. But I'm just talking versatility. It's Bo Jackson,

693
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: Deon Sanders right being able to do a lot. But

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Speaker 1: even that, it's not like Bo Jackson played running back

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Speaker 1: and linebacker. I mean, Dion played a little bit of

696
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Speaker 1: wide receiver and even as a baseball Larry somewhat part

697
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: time at the highest level. I just think it's really,

698
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: really difficult. Obviously, I think Travis could play both and

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Speaker 1: he would be a first round pick. I mean, he'd

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Speaker 1: be a top five pick at corner, and I think

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00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: he'd be a top depending on the class if he

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Speaker 1: was a wide receiver, only top fifteen ish pick at

703
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. I do think it's just asking a lot

704
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: of your body and there's just a line of diminishing returns.

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00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: Big Cowboy fan parents named me after the city his

706
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: name's Dallas. As a younger Cowboy fan, I've only witnessed

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00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: mediocrity from this team and heartbreak. Many fans say Jerry

708
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: is the problem, and I would have to agree. However,

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00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: one could argue that the culture that's set in Dallas

710
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: leads to every player wanting to be paid more. Then

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00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: once it comes time for those same players to perform,

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00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: they do not. It also leads to the roster being

713
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: thin and having some holes. Do you think Dallas is

714
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: blamed for their struggles? Should also fall in the players.

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Speaker 1: I think the last three years in the playoffs, and

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00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: I think overall in some big games, Dak just the

717
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: interceptions and to me. Part of interceptions is also on

718
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: decision making, where you can watch him in some games

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00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: and his decision making is awesome, and then you watch

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00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: him in other games you're like, what is going on?

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Speaker 1: And as people I remember when I use this analogy

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Speaker 1: or comparison, I think after the Steeler game, because in

723
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: that Steeler game, he threw two picks. If memory serves me, correct,

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Speaker 1: watched a lot of football since both the picks were

725
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: pretty atrocious. I mean there was one in a deeper

726
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: ball that was bad, there was one in the red zone,

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00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: and then he had a fumble that he lost. He

728
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: had three fucking turnovers. But then he leads the game

729
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: game winning drive on the road in Pittsburgh, and a

730
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, that's Eli Manning. Because you

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Speaker 1: can watch him, you go, this guy sucks, And then

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Speaker 1: you can watch him on a final drive You're like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if like six seven quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: league lead their team on that drive. And the one

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00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: thing Eli has is he had the two playoff moments

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00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: where he got red hot. But if you watched Eli,

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Speaker 1: like on the right game, he could look awesome. I

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Speaker 1: remember a game, maybe my first or second year with

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00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Giants came to us. Might be

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00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: my first year. I just remember ELI was so bad.

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Speaker 1: It must have been my first year because I think

742
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: the second year they won the Super Bowl, and it's

743
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: just it's crazy. Yeah, I don't really know what else

744
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: to say. Besides he's just he's a roller coaster, and

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00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: I think against the forty nine ers really back to

746
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: back years in the playoffs, he just he shit the bed.

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00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: Last year was your team was terrible in that game.

748
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: But I think the pre obvious two years you got

749
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: to put it on deck. I do think there's something

750
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: about playing for the Cowboys. We've talked a lot about,

751
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: like extra hype, maybe some extra dollars coming off the field.

752
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a sense of entitlement, which is crazy because

753
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: they don't win that much in the playoffs. I don't know.

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00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't have a great answer for you. Regardless of

755
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: just something's off. My commanders are most likely not going

756
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: to contend for the Super Bowl this year. True, they're not. However,

757
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: going into the next year with the third highest cap

758
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: space and notable draft picks, when do you see the

759
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winding window opening for the Commis Jaden obviously

760
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: has to play better than he played the last couple

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00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: of weeks. He needs to get healthy. But if he's

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00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: going to be a good player, I mean a top

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00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: ten quarterback next the next two years and have games

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00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: where he's top five quarterback and have a lot of

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00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: games where he's somewhere six, seven, eight. You can win

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00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: anywhere from if your team's good, I'd say twelve plus games.

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00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: They need a good pass rusher, like you have to

768
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: find your Jalen Carter, You're Nick Bosa, your TJ. Watt, like,

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00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: you need that guy in your defensive line. So I

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00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: would say that is an area in which they got

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00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: to find. And I would say their offensive line actually

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00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: has been pretty good, even though it got warped against

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. That's an area you can always improve on.

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00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: If you think about their offensive weapons, you know, Ertz

775
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: is old, mclaurin's good. You definitely could use some more

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00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: offensive firepower. The running backs are good, Eckler, Brian Robinson.

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00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: That's a good backfield to me. The defense, like, you

778
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: just need to continue to build on defense times now,

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00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: you know these next couple of years is when you buy.

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00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: Look at the Texans this offseason, they got really aggressive.

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00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: I would approach it exactly like the It doesn't mean

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00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna work. It's football. This isn't baseball or basketball.

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00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: But and I you know, thing with football is like,

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Speaker 1: who's actually the free agent crop? Even guys that are

785
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: quote unquote gonna be free agents if you just google

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00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: them right now. The good ones sign extensions over the

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00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: next couple months or get franchised, so you know your

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00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: pick of the litter. Even if you got the most money.

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Speaker 1: It always looks sexier three or four months before free

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00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: agency than it actually does once you get there. Now,

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00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: could you trade picks for players? I just think you

792
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: gotta keep building. But now that you know your quarterback's

793
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: pretty good, be aggressive, baby, be aggressive. And I would

794
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: expect them to be big fan of the pod. What

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Speaker 1: is one nice thing you can say about the Raiders?

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00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: Their history is pretty cool? Their history is really cool.

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00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: I would say the story of Al Davis the Raiders

798
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: in the seventies eighties is pretty badass. Do you think

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Speaker 1: the operation gets blown up this offseason with Tom getting

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00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: involved in the team. Will Ap be the coach this

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00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: time next year? You know what, at this point in time,

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Speaker 1: I got a lot I think I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: I talked to one guy who's very tight in in

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00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. I don't know if he exactly works in

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00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: the NFL, but works with a team essentially, and he

806
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: was adamant. He's like, I think he's gonna be fired now.

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00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: Obviously things can change. They could win a bunch of games,

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00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: but they keep losing. He could be one and done,

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00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: and that's that wasn't my opinion. I don't know. I

810
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: don't think Mark Davis wants to fire him, But how

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Speaker 1: can you keep going the way you're going if you

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00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: have the number one overall? Pick Deon Sanders. I think

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00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: that'd be pretty fun. You know, Dion's a little bit

814
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: of a renegade. I think Al Davis would be pretty happy.

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Speaker 1: Al Davis would have loved Deon because he could really run.

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00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: Didn't Deon run like a four or five back courts.

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00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: So you know, bring in Shador. You know, Chador has

818
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: a good arm, not great I love, you know, like JaMarcus,

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Speaker 1: Jeff George. But when he gave in to Gruden to

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Speaker 1: get rich Gannon, who didn't have a great arm, they

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00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: were really good. So maybe I would be on board upstairs.

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Speaker 1: I just think they They've just been so shitty for

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00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: so long that if you win three games on the season,

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Speaker 1: I think he has to be won and done. I

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Speaker 1: just don't think you can bring him back because he

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Speaker 1: knows nothing about offense. S already firing offensive coaches. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna let him draft a quarterback really high, especially you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're interested in Iron Mike Ray, Blues, Tom's Guy,

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Speaker 1: or Dion. I would do that in a heartbeat over

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Speaker 1: Antonio Pearce, assuming something doesn't dramatically change. Appreciate everyone listening,

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Talk to everyone soon. Audios. The

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