1 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, we're back with another episode of Therapy for 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Black Girls University. I'm your host, doctor Joy Hard and Bradford, 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: and this week we have a very special guest. We'll 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: be back with our conversation right after this break. Alissa Ashley, 5 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: founder of in Real Life Skin, was raised in a 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: traditional West Indian household where self care was embraced as 7 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: a holistic lifestyle rather than a simple routine. From a 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: young age, she incorporated natural ingredients like pomegranate extract, magnesium 9 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: and vitamin E into her diet and skincare, discovering their 10 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: powerful benefits for both physical and emotional well being. With 11 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: over a decade of experience in the consumer packaged goods 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: and health and wellness industries, collaborating with brands such as 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Shamee Moisture and Weight Watchers, Alissa identified a missing link 14 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: between agriculture, beauty and wellness. This insight led to the 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: creation of in Real Life Skin, a brand rooted in 16 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: the principles of neurocosmetics and designed to promote skinhealth, emotional balance, 17 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: and sustainability. Her vision centers on reflecting real life through 18 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 1: skincare by offering plant based products and resources that foster 19 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: healthy habits, emotional wellness, and authentic community connections. In this conversation, 20 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: Alyssa opens up about the realities of leaving a corporate 21 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: nine to five job in order to pursue starting your 22 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: own business. We're talking about self discovery, sacrifice, entrepreneurial affirmations, 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: and understanding how your business is connected to your inner child. 24 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: So if you've been trying to figure out how to 25 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: make the jump from employee to employer, are just fascinated 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: by the story behind founders, this one's for you. If 27 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: something resonates with you while enjoying our conversation, please share 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: with us on social media using the hashtag TVG in 29 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Session is our conversation. Thank you so much for joining 30 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: us today, Alyssa, thank. 31 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: You, Thank you for having me here. 32 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to learn more about you, So tell 33 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: us for people who may be unfamiliar, a little bit 34 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: about yourself and your background. 35 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I am a connector and brand representative. I started 36 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: young at eighteen years old, working for companies like Mountain, Dew, HBO, 37 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: Amazon and representing their brands in New York City and 38 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: in college. Now I represent CpG clients up and coming startups, 39 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: like Flourished by Amray Johnson Junior recently supported Pharrell's Black 40 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: Ambition and Fortune and fok So everything. Brand, representing and 41 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: connecting is what I enjoy doing as well as just 42 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: helping people release stress and take that off their plate. 43 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: I'm deeply rioted in faith and I was guided to 44 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: open a neurocosmetic skincare brand that basically accumulates my work 45 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: in marketing and representing health and wellness brands help and 46 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: support people and their mental well being through skincare products. 47 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: Beautiful, So you already have such an incredible resume, right, Like, 48 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: those are some incredible companies that you have listened and 49 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of the people listening will wonder, like, well, 50 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: how do I break into some of these companies? So 51 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: what suggestions would you have or maybe let's talk a 52 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: little bit about your journey into working at some of 53 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: these incredible companies. 54 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: Yes, brand connection overall, just connecting, following through with people 55 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: when there's an opportunity, seizing that moment and seeing what 56 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: people need and really identifying that. I would say a 57 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: great example, actually I developed a great relationship with Black 58 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: Excellence Brunch and how I did that was I saw 59 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: them at an event, I saw that they needed help 60 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: or something, and I was able to help them with that. 61 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: And just being in La it's easier. It's almost naturally 62 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: you're seeing someone that you've seen on Instagram or on 63 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: social media and just kind of knowing how can I 64 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: help them and positioning yourself as a resource for them. 65 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: Hmmm, that's such a great tip. I wonder if they're 66 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, and you make a great point of being 67 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: in Italy right, Like, I feel like it is much 68 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: easier to do something like that. But let's say somebody 69 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: is in somewhere Illinois, maybe Chicago is even several hours away. 70 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: What suggestions would you give to people about like how 71 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: to do some of that networking and like building intentional relationships. 72 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: I would still say the same the follow through still 73 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: showing up as yourself to people that you want to 74 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: help and you know, give your services to. So if 75 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: you're like in Illinois and you are good at social 76 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: media and there's a favorite store around you, whether that's 77 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: a local cults on Prameriy or somewhere, you go into 78 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: DLA it's a local mom and pop shop, seeing what 79 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: is a structure in your business that I can help 80 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: with because you identify the brand already, you already have 81 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: admiration for the brand, and you should have a skill 82 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: at that point that you've identified you can sharpen or 83 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: position differently, and just offering that too. I think a 84 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: lot of the face to face communications in my field 85 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: with these brands is most important versus sending a message 86 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: online or doing some sort of interactive experience through the web, 87 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: versus in person. 88 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: So in person is really key, Like if you can 89 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: get in front of some of these people, that's really 90 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: what you would suggest, and. 91 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: Putting yourself out there in any way, putting yourself out there, 92 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: and even if you can't get in front of them 93 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 2: and you kind of are levels away from them, still 94 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: seeing like what are they doing that I can do 95 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: for myself and that I want to strengthen within myself 96 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: and always having a takeaway with anything that you connect 97 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: with of how you can you know, support that more. 98 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. So you mentioned that you have 99 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: started your brain as a neurocosmetic Is that the correction? 100 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: Why tell me what that term means. I'm not familiar 101 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: with that. 102 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: So connection between this stress of your self and your skin, 103 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: So really studying how the ingredients that you put on 104 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: your skin can affect your mood and uplift your mood. 105 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: And I use myself as a case study for that. 106 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: I grew up in a traditional West Indian household in 107 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: New York, where it was a time where natural ingredients 108 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: worn around us. My parents were both immigrants, and we 109 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: cannot have any of the juices in the stores. We 110 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: can only have water. They're very, very strict on what 111 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: we put in our bodies. And I specifically remember moments 112 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: of my parents coming home with a pomegranate juice and 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: being like, this is good for you. You can finally 114 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: have good juice for you. You have to know what 115 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: you're putting in your body and you also have to 116 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: know the effects of it for your mental well being. 117 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: So I really want to shed light on that, the 118 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: disparency between food and the economics of food as well 119 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: and ingredients. We're starting with skincare, but the overall brand 120 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: is on skincare is a lifestyle. It's across all of 121 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: these different pillars, what you eat, what you think about, 122 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: who you are, what you consume. And I'm seeing where 123 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: it goes and it's been a lot of fun so far. 124 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: So was there a particular moment that made you realize, 125 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: I am now making the shift into entrepreneurship. 126 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: I think it naturally happened for me in terms of 127 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: it was a push, and I saw that this passion 128 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: I had was growing. I was gaining customers, people were 129 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: wanting to know more and more about the brand, and 130 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: it was at a point in my life where I 131 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: could do this full time and manage the clients that 132 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm gaining and the partnership opportunities that I have. It 133 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: coincidentally just happened with like God's plan that as I 134 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: was trying to hold onto my nearly a decade of 135 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: experience in PR, he was like, it's time to launch 136 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 2: your business, and I did, and then opportunities came along 137 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: continuously from the work I had already put in to 138 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: make it successful. 139 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: So little were you already like creating products for like 140 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: yourself and your friends? Like, how did you even start 141 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: with making a product for your skin? 142 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: Right, that's a really good question. So the magnesium spray 143 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: is a passed down staple in my family, and outside 144 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: of that, they're growing up. My mom every time before 145 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: school would start in the fall, she would make different 146 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: types of Jesus for us, and I was looking at 147 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: those ingredients and I was like, can I put these 148 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: on my skin? And specifically one moment last year. The 149 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: brand is still about five months old and it's growing incredibly. 150 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: But last year my mom said to me someone approached 151 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: her and wanted her to represent their skincare line. And 152 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: I started telling her all the aspects of being a 153 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: brand rap from my experience and telling her you better 154 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: make sure that you get your cut, like you got 155 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: to make sure that you know the business behind being 156 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: brand rapped. I was just like, you, you're giving your 157 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: face away. You need to make sure. And then I 158 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 2: was like, wait a minute, how did I not think 159 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: about this before. Everything she's passed down that's made a 160 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: difference on my face and on my skin should be shared. 161 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: And I can really create this based off of our 162 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: West Indian traditions being so firmly in our Guyanese culture, 163 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: I could do this with her and I can kind 164 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: of use her as my inspiration. So that's really that's right. 165 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: I was like, make sure you know the business beyond it, 166 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: and then I was like, wait, I can do this. 167 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: So y'all were really on the whole wave of like 168 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: magnesium spray. Before it really took off on TikTok, I 169 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: had not heard of it before, like I saw people 170 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: sharing it on TikTok, but it was something that has 171 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: been a part of your life since forever. 172 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: Yes, the nighttime routine itself is so sacred, and having 173 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: those moments for yourself, those words of affirmation, preparing yourself 174 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: for the next day, knowing what you're going into and 175 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: just having that structure has always been so ingrained and 176 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: a part of my life. So also those ingredients break 177 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: before you take and before you go to bed are 178 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: so important too. So many people know magnesium is something 179 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: that you just eat and people so popular now everyone's 180 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: having the magnesium mocktail drinks now, but that has always 181 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: existed and always been something so important, And the magnesium 182 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: flakes are very essential to our magnesium spread. But also 183 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: now topically putting it on your skin and having a 184 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: soothed skin and going into your nighttime routine feeling soothed 185 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: and calm is something I want to make sure everyone 186 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: has access to, knowing those routines that make you break 187 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: you sometimes going into the next day too. So just 188 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: helping and preparing a generation of routines for all people 189 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: to know the importance behind clean and good And yeah. 190 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: So you talked about like your experience and your background 191 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: in PR and now you are shifting into a very 192 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: different world, right, Like, it's a difference between making a 193 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: small bitch for like maybe yourself and some loved ones 194 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: to like a product you're actually selling. 195 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,239 Speaker 2: So tell me how you have picked. 196 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: Up the knowledge and like maybe been resourceful in connecting 197 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: with the right people to move into this new area. 198 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: Yes, first, my manufacturer has been captal to it all. 199 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: I work with a manufacturer. She has her lab. It's 200 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: woman owned, and she shares all of her resources of 201 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: her even creating her own business and having labs. So 202 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: that partnership was really my first. I launched this independently, 203 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: going through that process just with the knowledge of the 204 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: lab and a chemist and working with them on the formula. 205 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: And then as I grew, I just knew I needed 206 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: an advisory boarder. I'm such a brainstorm junkie. I love brainstorming, 207 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: I love ideas. My earliest coworkers would say you're an 208 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: idea as generator. You just keep coming with these new 209 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 2: ideas and learning the importance of copyrighting these ideas and 210 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: all that goes into owning a business has been by 211 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: having and reaching out to the available resources. The economics 212 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: Centers Vermont Sausin has extremely helped me along this journey 213 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: and just reaching out to small business organizations and others 214 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: going through the same experience other founders and bringing them 215 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: in along the journey. 216 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: So how did you even go about finding a manufacturer? 217 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone cans asking me that, I because I think 218 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: a lot of people listening will think like, Okay, I 219 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: have a good idea, but like, where do I even start? 220 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: How do you just find a manufacturer? 221 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: I started by googling every single type of question that 222 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: I had. My question was how do I find a manufacturer? 223 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: Of googling manufacturers in California, manufacturers in New York. I 224 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: was looking at other beauty companies that I liked, and 225 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: I was looking to see where they were manufactured in. 226 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: I was going to Sephora five times a day, and 227 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: the people the forest unded knowing me because they were like, 228 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: are you here for like school? Like why are you here? 229 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: I was like, I have a project I'm working on, 230 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: and I would just go through each and every product label, product, packaging, 231 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: and you just have to really look to see where 232 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: are the manufacturers. And that's what I. 233 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: Did got it so lots and lots of research, it 234 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: sounds like, is what you're saying. 235 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: No sleep, lots of research, and I did this all 236 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: managing a nine to five job successfully. I did this 237 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 2: basically all after hours, during my lunch breaks. It was 238 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: a passion at first. So it was every time I 239 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: had an idea in corporate America that maybe wouldn't breakthrough 240 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: with a certain client, I saw ways that could break 241 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: through with my brand. 242 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: Well. So as a fellow entrepreneur, I do know that 243 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like sleepless nights, lots of resilience 244 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: really required to build the business, especially in the infant stages. 245 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: What kinds of wellness practices have been really important to 246 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: you as you get your business off the ground. 247 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: Grounding myself keeping a journal, journaling all of the good 248 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: moments and all of the bad moments. I learned throughout 249 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: this to start recording and video recording kind of experiences 250 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: that I'm going through as kind of a diary to 251 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: myself and just really hearing my inner dialogue. Now they 252 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: saying when you launch a business, that your inner child 253 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: comes out, and this was completely true throughout this process. 254 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: I had to really learn to hear myself, is this 255 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: coming from a place that's good for the brand, or 256 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: kind of coming from a place that is just what 257 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: I want to do? And just hearing how I was guided. 258 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: I relied so heapily on my faith to show me 259 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: the ways to go, the decisions to make, what to say, 260 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: what to do, that all of those practices is a 261 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: part of my wellness journey that helped me throughout this 262 00:14:59,280 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: whole process. 263 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: That sounds like a very true saying, though I've never 264 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: heard it before, right, But I definitely know that there 265 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: are parts of yourself that you are introduced to in 266 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship that you're like, where did that come from? 267 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: What have been. 268 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: Maybe some of the mental health challenges or concerns maybe 269 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: that have been identified for you as you find yourself 270 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: building the business. 271 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: Yes, my staff calls me a perfectionist, and I realize 272 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: that I am a perfectionist in every aspect of that term, 273 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: which I maybe used surprive myself on that that was 274 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: a good thing. I knew and felt confident wherever my 275 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: name was mentioned that I was mentioned for good, and 276 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: now I'm letting go kind of It's okay to be good. 277 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't have to be great all the time. 278 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: The important things matter. I now know more of what 279 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: important things are. I call them my big rocks, and 280 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: I know what the things that don't matter are, and 281 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: if those are still okay, it's okay. So definitely that 282 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: I have to be a people leader. I have to 283 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: care about people's mental well being. I am the type 284 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: of person who I'm so organized. Everything is structured down 285 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: to the tee and realizing some people aren't like that, 286 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: but they're still getting work done and they're just not 287 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,239 Speaker 2: like that. So maybe embracing type B type B lifestyles 288 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: work too. You can coexist with type B. 289 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: And is there anybody else in the business now? I 290 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: know you mentioned like advisory boys, but is there anybody 291 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: else on payroll besides you? 292 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: Now? I have a dedicated social media strategist, Binelli, who 293 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: has been on a team basically since day one. She 294 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: helped me launch and it happened naturally. She was through 295 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: an organization. I'm a part of Fortune and Forks, and 296 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: I reached out to her. We're always sharing resources. If 297 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: she knows anyone who could help me, and she's so 298 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: quickly identified with the brand and so having fortune and 299 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: forks with Manned. Having that community has met everything to me. 300 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: And now we also onboarded a college ambassador too, so 301 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: we are using my experience as a college ambassador in 302 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: real life skin and we are super excited. I'm looking 303 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: to grow, so I'm open to the doors. There's a 304 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: lot of opportunities out there, so I'm excited. 305 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: So what new challenges has that brought forth? 306 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, managing people now I get it more. I understand. 307 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: I understand there's a lot of personalities, but you can 308 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: have fun with it. There's so many ideas you have 309 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: to say, focused on the goal. What is the goal? 310 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: Like just the whole overall business structure needs to be 311 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: really tied up, the key audience, the key profiles. Knowing 312 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: why and how you want to break through has been 313 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: the most important part in the direction. Leading with a 314 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: clearer directions is everything I go back to. So now 315 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: I have pillars for different areas that I want to 316 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: focus on, and as long as it falls in those pillars, 317 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: we're good. As a good I love it. 318 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: So tell me more about the connection between skin care 319 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: and mental health and overwhell wellness because I think that 320 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: this is a still newer concept right, Like clearly not 321 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: for you, but I think you know, in terms of 322 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: like products being sold in like conversations around it, it 323 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: still feels pretty new. So what kinds of things can 324 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: we tell about like our mental health based on our skincare, 325 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: and like what is that greater connection? 326 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 2: Yes, so everything that you put on your skin is 327 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: going into your skin, so all of the nerves are 328 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: targeting the nerves that are in your skin through these 329 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 2: natural ingredients. So yes, it is very new, the connection 330 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: between your mind and your skin. Many people are understanding 331 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: more and more mental wellbeing and the importance of that 332 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: it's not just what you put on your skin, but 333 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: what goes into your skin. I was raised with that 334 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 2: same principle. My mom would always tell me it's not 335 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: what's on your head, it's what's in your head. So 336 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 2: what's in you matters. These are products that are including 337 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 2: pomegranate magnesium. These are things that you can actually have 338 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: the multi benefit and function. 339 00:18:54,320 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: More from our conversation after the break, and you also 340 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: mentioned that you have kind of been building your business 341 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: alongside like your steady roster of nine to five clients. 342 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: What has it been like to navigate like both of 343 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: those because those are both full time jobs, right, so 344 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: you're basically working two full time jobs. How have you 345 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: managed that? 346 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: It's been hard. I would say it's something you have 347 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: to really be prepared for, and especially having agency experience 348 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: when I first started in the field. That's incredibly helpful 349 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: for me. It hasn't been something I thought I would 350 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: be doing. I did not think I would have multiple 351 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: clients that I'm managing and supporting, but it just happened. 352 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 2: With the network of opportunities I've had, which has been amazing, 353 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: But even things like health insurance, I'm still figuring things out. 354 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: I still have no idea on how to be an 355 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: entrepreneur other than just watching it. I have people that 356 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: I look up to, like that my Creeds of the 357 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 2: world that I like and like, Wow, they did it. 358 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: I can do it too, but it's still new. We're 359 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: in an age where anything can happen. Job security is 360 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: the most important to me. I've always been grounded education, education, 361 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: got a good job. My parents didn't really prepare for 362 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: me to have my own business. So the generational breakthrough 363 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: and that has been incredible. 364 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: Can you say more about that? As you mentioned kind 365 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: of being from a West Indian family and you know like, okay, 366 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: these are your choices in terms of what success looks like, right, 367 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: and you have chosen something there successful but very different. 368 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: So what has that been like the conversations with your 369 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: parents and your family. 370 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: Yes, so I want to start off by saying, very 371 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: traditional household, very very very traditional household. And my parents 372 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: only cared about education number one. Education, so and what 373 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 2: you eat, and they really taught me how to be healthy. 374 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: So growing up, Halloween came around, we couldn't have any 375 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: of the candy. Anything to drink in the house was water, 376 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: no juice. This was at a time growing up and 377 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 2: the early late nineties, early two thousands, juice wasn't available 378 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: without additives. So there were immigrants coming to America and 379 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: they didn't trust American food. They barely trusted the microwave. 380 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: So this was hard. This is really hard for me. 381 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: And I was an environment where my peers around me 382 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: were basically eating and doing what they could do, and 383 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: I was really structured on what I could eat. And 384 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: so I remember the moment my dad came in with 385 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 2: a pomegranate juice in two thousand and two, and he 386 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: was like, look, there's juice you can finally have because 387 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: that was such a joke that we could have juice, 388 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: and it was Palm wonderful, flap flash war in my 389 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 2: last job at Palm wonderful. So I think, just like 390 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 2: everything coming full circle has been incredible. But to go 391 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: back to your question, though, conversations have been very supportive, 392 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: nothing but support and telling me it will be okay. 393 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: I've been the one the most fearful out of it all. 394 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: I've been the one. I need a nine to five job. 395 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: I'm so worried about not having insurance. It's been my 396 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: biggest concern. And my parents are like, God has provided 397 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: an abundance for you that you will be okay. And 398 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: so just letting go of that fear that I won't 399 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: be okay because I've been okay this whole time and 400 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: I will be okay. And more than anything that makes 401 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: me so happy is that the people who work for me, 402 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: especially in the earlier stages, are people who are like me, 403 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: who want jobs. And I'm working with people overseas. Someone 404 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: from Pakistan who is working remotely, she's going through mental 405 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: health issues and she was looking for a job. She's 406 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: all the way in Pakistan, but she has skills at 407 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: or helping in real life skin and I have other 408 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: people who are in college who want to help me. 409 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: So just leaning into that help and support has been 410 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: new for me. But also everyone's been so encouraging that 411 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I have support, keep doing it. Something's 412 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: gonna happen. And I actually just was ranked top five 413 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: in a beauty accelerator program this weekend with judges from 414 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: When Beauty Fantisque and more. So it's been really exciting. 415 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: Well, congratulations. That little bit of validation is always nice, right, 416 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: especially in those moments when it feels difficult, like oh 417 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: do I continue with this? Right? So talk to me 418 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: more about like some of the sacrifices. So you've already 419 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: talked about, like the sacrifice of like the stability of Okay, 420 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: I know this check is coming twice a month, I 421 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: have health insurance. What are some of the other sacrifices 422 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: you've been able to identify that you've made an interest 423 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: in the business. 424 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: My time with my community. I would say I want 425 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: to grow so much more and have people around me 426 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 2: that support me. Doing this and starting this independently. I 427 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: had so many nights alone. You're very alone throughout this 428 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: process that I don't think anyone prepares you for. For me, 429 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: I was the most alone I've ever been in my life. 430 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: And then all of these great ideas kept coming in. 431 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: I almost wanted to share them with everyone, but I 432 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: didn't do that because I really had to trust my 433 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 2: intuition and bring this to life myself as a founder. 434 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: I needed to make sure I was making and calling 435 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 2: those shots for the brand and that I had a 436 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: clear vision. But it was very lonely, and at times 437 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: when it's really low and things happen that are out 438 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: of your control, it's like no one can understand how 439 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: you're feeling except for yourself. And then when things are 440 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 2: so good, that's why a lot of people show up. 441 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes that's when like everyone's celebrating you and feels good. 442 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: But just having kind of those core people who knew 443 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: why I couldn't hang out over the weekends and so 444 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 2: many nights I had to stay inside. I haven't been 445 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: like outside a really long time. So I'm excited now 446 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: to like just allow more fun into my life too. 447 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So do you feel like you found like 448 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: a supportive community maybe of other entrepreneurs that have been 449 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: able to make you feel a little less lonely. 450 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I always go back to Fortune and Forks. Fortune 451 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 2: and Forks is a woman of color social group founded 452 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: in New York, now in La Miami, all over the world, 453 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: and they have been the first community I felt completely myself. 454 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: And Naomi has been a childhood friend of my family 455 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: and just having her support. She's one of the first 456 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: people I told I want to start something on my own, 457 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: and she allowed me the opportunity to work with Fortune 458 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: and Forks right before I launched my business. So having 459 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: those girls and that community with me has been everything 460 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: to me. These are all first generation women of color 461 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: who all have succeeded in entertainment across various industries. 462 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: And speaking of that, you know, I know that there 463 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: are lots of challenges that are unique to being a 464 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: woman of color, and especially in particular young woman of color. 465 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: Can you talk about maybe some of the challenge is 466 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: that you've had with that particular identity. 467 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 2: Overcoming the stereotype of being a pretty black girl. I 468 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 2: don't think that many people talk about this. I think 469 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: people talk about being a black woman. I want to 470 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: share that, Like, there's so many aspects of being pretty 471 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: privileged that people don't talk about. People don't talk about 472 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: navigating that at all, and a lot of negatives is like, oh, 473 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: she thinks she can do this or she thinks she 474 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: can have this, and it's like, I don't think anything 475 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: more of myself than anyone else. So just like reidentifying 476 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: what it means to be a pretty girl, a pretty 477 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: black girl, but issues of being that come with all 478 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: of that too, I think is something that I'm learning 479 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: how to share that narrative, but it's been something I've 480 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: had to overcome. A lot of rooms that I've been 481 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: in might just think, oh, she's a pretty girl who 482 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 2: doesn't have a brain for herself, who doesn't know how 483 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: to do certain things, when I'm actually maybe more of 484 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: an introvert. 485 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: And what kinds of things have been helpful to you 486 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: in navigating some of those challenges. 487 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: Speaking of having a voice, affirming your voice, and knowing 488 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: who you are has been the most important. Knowing at 489 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: the end of the day, who you are you want 490 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: to be, and having a clear vision of them. 491 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit about the challenges of 492 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: managing a team, and so you know, you've gone from 493 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: kind of just this self run thing to now having 494 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: more people, which means that you are now leading, right, Like, 495 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: So what kinds of lessons about leadership do you feel 496 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: like you have learned as the business has grown? 497 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: Hearing the opinions and thoughts of others first and then 498 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: making a decision. So having a collective group kind of 499 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: thinking together, moving together, and then making decisions for the 500 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: business with that in mind has been really important. It's 501 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: been a shift from doing it alone to now doing 502 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: it with people who are just as invested and just 503 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: as involved. So that and managing kind of what could 504 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: work and still leading it has been new territory. 505 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about the process of 506 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: building your advisory board, Like what kinds of people are 507 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: you looking for? 508 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: Yes, So, having gone through the Vermont slaus and Beauty 509 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: and the Biz program and identifying the founders in that program, 510 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: they're about I want to say thirty of us that 511 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm competing to be top five and for opportunity to 512 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: be in retail. So having those different founders in there, 513 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: I would identify with new founders the judges behind that 514 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: from Fenti to When Beauty and just really making sure 515 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm keeping these connections that have been the foundation of 516 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: the brand. These are some of the first people I've 517 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: shared my thoughts too with the brand from this program, 518 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: So making sure that there's a follow through in that. 519 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: And can you talk maybe about like a tough or 520 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: difficult decision you've had to make already in the life 521 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: of your business and what you've learned from that. 522 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: Oh, my goodnes, Yes, so a tough decision I've had 523 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: to make. I started studying other brands and studying how 524 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: other brands got to where they are, and there was 525 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: always a face behind other brands. When you think of Road, 526 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: you think of Haley Bieber. When you think of even 527 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: When Beauty, you think of Serena Williams. So I was like, 528 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to be the face of the brand. 529 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to have my face out there. I 530 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: don't want people to know who I am. I would 531 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: rather create this brand and this product and let that 532 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: speak for itself. And I learned, and especially my social 533 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: media strategists who supported me, and all of these ideas. 534 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: The founder's story is so important and sharing who you 535 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: are and really who you are is so important, and 536 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: sharing the realness behind who you are is really the 537 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: foundation of the brand. So I had to really get 538 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: used to that. I was very firm and I don't 539 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: want me out there. I'm very much a private person. 540 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: I did this for a year and a half by 541 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: myself and then it became this, but it was always 542 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: a passion that I kept privately to myself. So that 543 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: was a big decision for me because it went against 544 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: what I had thought for the brand, and now having 545 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: myself associated with the brand and having the founder's story 546 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: really being about my story might passed down through me 547 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 2: from West Indian tradition is the root of it, so 548 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: I do have to have involvement in it. And so 549 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: that was definitely a learning lesson and I'm still getting there. 550 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm still I know what I have to perfect about myself. 551 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: I know that I need to perfect myself in certain 552 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: ways that I'm creating a brand that I want to 553 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: be perfect and now I'm trying to make sure that 554 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: I'm perfecting myself. But really I just have to be myself. 555 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: So letting myself be with the brand has been the 556 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: biggest learning lesson. I think I just realized that just 557 00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: now for you give me that question. I love that. 558 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: I feel like that is another example of the stuff 559 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: we don't know that's hidden that comes out right when 560 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: we are building a business, Like what was really behind 561 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: the desire to not be the face of the brand? 562 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: Right? Like? 563 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: Is it because you wanted it to stand on its 564 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: own or was there something about you that you know 565 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: was coming out and you not wanting to put it forward? 566 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 567 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well thank you for sharing that. 568 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 569 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: Has therapy been a part of your story of building 570 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: the business? 571 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: One hundred percent? Therapy was the only person I had 572 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: to tell anything to. So my therapist would be so amazed. 573 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: I don't have health insurance right now, so I had 574 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: to pause therapy for a bit and actually open up 575 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: to my community. So I'm like, you know what, everything 576 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: happens for a reason. But my therapists throughout it all, 577 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: we were dealing with other issues. We were dealing about 578 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: mental health issues in corporate America. Throughout it all, she 579 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: was giving me so much guidance, so much like strength, 580 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: and on the side, she was like, well, what's making 581 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: you happy? Was working in your life? I was like, 582 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: the business is then everything around the business is going great. 583 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: Everything about the business is going amazing. She's like, focus 584 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: on that. Focus on that. I was like, okay, and 585 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: then every day come crying, hysterically crying to her like 586 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: this is what happened to me, this is what happened. 587 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: And she's like, what was good about today? And I'd 588 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: say the business, and she'd say, focus on that. She 589 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: was a faith based therapist, which was the difference of 590 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: a lot of my journey to having a faith based 591 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: therapist who was reading scriptures to me, so I wasn't 592 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: just going based off of what she was saying. She 593 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: was actually seeing my life. She knew our intimate parts 594 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: of my life overcoming a lot of hardship when I 595 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: was younger. Having someone like her was so important to me. 596 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: I can't wait to have respients again. 597 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, have you been able to go through like well, 598 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's called Obamacare anymore, right, but like 599 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: the you know, the clearing house and stuff like, is 600 00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: that not an option? 601 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: I've just been so busy that God, I'm now A 602 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: part of the prize this weekend was that I'm awarded 603 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: a virtual assistant, So now I can actually have assistance 604 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: with those things, because, as I'm sure you can imagine, 605 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: the business has overtaken every single part of my life 606 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: that like the personal side, I need to give more 607 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: care to. But I'm like I did all my yearly 608 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: appointments right before I left Corporate America. I very much 609 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: prepare myself to be independent, that I'm like a healthy 610 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: young individual. That I was like, Okay, put insurants off. 611 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: But now I know, I know I'm doing that this week. 612 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: Good good. 613 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: I love this. So it sounds like there was a 614 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: point at which you felt like, Okay, I can no 615 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: longer do both of these things at the same time, right, Like, So, 616 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: was it that you feel like, Okay, I got to 617 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: put all of my energy now into my business and 618 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't have time to kind of be full time 619 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: somewhere else. Is that the point at which you decided, okay, 620 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm leaving corporate. No, my plan was always Corporate America. 621 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: I always had that ingrained. My parents always define success 622 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: one is being a doctor. Both of them come from 623 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: the medical field. So one they're like, you gotta be 624 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: a doctor. 625 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'll do pr for help them 626 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: mown as brands instead like to talk. I want to 627 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 2: yap with the like I want to just napped an hotword. 628 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: I was like, that's what I'm good at. I like 629 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: to represent brands and help them so they're okay with that. 630 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 2: Nine to five is always a goal. It was always 631 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: the plan for me, and like I said, it was 632 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: a push. Essentially, it was just God aligning things for 633 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: me to be out of certain situations, to timing it 634 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: with the launch of my brand, and then the brand 635 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 2: blowing up got it Okay. 636 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: More from our conversation after the break, So, what would 637 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: you say has been the most shocking thing that you 638 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: have learned about out business in this journey and maybe 639 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: the most shocking thing you've learned about yourself in this process. 640 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: The most shocking thing I've learned about business is that 641 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 2: it's so evolving. So you can start creating a business 642 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 2: plan and structure. I didn't realize that it's always rolling. 643 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: For me. I was like, Okay, buy this certain deadline, 644 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 2: I will be done with my business structure and plan. 645 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: That's how I started things. I was like, okay by 646 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: this date, and then a financial advisor said to me, 647 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: you know that this is always going to be changing. 648 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: I was like, no, it's going to be done, be 649 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: done with it in two weeks and he was like, no, 650 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 2: it's you're done with it. It's not working. I was like, oh, 651 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: so Thathans something For me, everything is rolling, everything is 652 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: just continuous. So that has been definitely a learning lesson. 653 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 2: And then personally, I would say everything is working in 654 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 2: like your favor no matter what I think. The goal 655 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: is in success, The goal is being in your prepared 656 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 2: place and just riding that wave and when things are down, 657 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 2: knowing it will it will get up again. Like when 658 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 2: things are up, this is just validation. But don't like 659 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: glory in the up because I always am prepared for 660 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: the worst case scenario that like, even when things are up, 661 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, like, don't move only up right now. That 662 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: just realizing that it's always going to go up or down, 663 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 2: up or down. You kind of want to be in 664 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: that middle balance where nothing that is good elevates you 665 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 2: and nothing that is bad it brings you down. 666 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, So tell me more about the products that are 667 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: actually a part of the line. So there's a spray 668 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: that I think is the magnesium spray, correct, So are 669 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: there other products in the line. 670 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: Yes, we have our jeal and Timeless is my hero product. 671 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: It is a hydrator. It boosts your skins hydration barrier 672 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: by thirty percent after two weeks of consistent use. And 673 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,479 Speaker 2: it is everything that's good for you. Like I said, 674 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: the pomegranate extract, the magnesium sink copper, Tree of Life antioxidants. 675 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: It's all of these plant based antioxidants and a quad 676 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: moisture complex that is good for you. So this is 677 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: my education. I want to start educating people on what 678 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: is good for you to put on your skin and 679 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: in your skin, the connection between stress and your skin, 680 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: and then leading into the ingredients and what is good 681 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: for you to eat and identifying that. So I see 682 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: it as a skincare lifestyle brand. 683 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: And so do I use this in the morning in 684 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: the evening? Where does it go in the routine? 685 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 2: Yes? So, and it's a nighttime routine. This can be 686 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 2: during the day at night. But it has a natural 687 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 2: form of redinoal in it that is greatest and most 688 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 2: active at night. So if you put it on during 689 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: the day, you have to put SPF on. And I'm 690 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: coming out with more and more innovations basically every day. 691 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: But right now, you put it on right before you 692 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: go to bed and it's a one step routine. It 693 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: will boost your hydration while you're sleeping all wake up refresh, 694 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: and also before you go to bed and you spray 695 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: the mad Meseum spread on your body, on your feet 696 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: and you're basically floating throughout the night and you feel 697 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 2: so good waking up in the morning and you look good. 698 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 2: It's all I use on my skin too, that I 699 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 2: feel so confident about it. I don't wear any makeup. 700 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: I only use my products, and it's really making your 701 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: confidence feel better by knowing your mood is being uplifted 702 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 2: with these products. 703 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: So we just have to stay tuned for the other 704 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: things that will be rolled out as you continue to 705 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: evolve with the brain. It sounds like very very soon, 706 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: So listen. What's something that you would say to your 707 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: eighteen year olds? 708 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: Sel I would tell her it's going to be okay. 709 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 2: Have fun, enjoy life and have fun. It's going to 710 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: be okay. I would just keep telling her over and over, 711 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 2: like you're gonna get everything you've wanted. Just keep your 712 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: self focused, work hard, and know that if you put 713 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: the good work in, if you're a good person and 714 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: if you try to help others it will be okay. 715 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: And are there any particular affirmations that you have found 716 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: helpful in your entrepreneurial journey. 717 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I have shower affirmations, so I put on my 718 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: shower every single night, and like I said, this brand 719 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 2: is largely rooted in nighttime routines. I put in affirmations 720 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 2: of who I am and I know also each month 721 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 2: I have kind of a goal of who I will 722 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 2: be that month. So this month I am shutting and accepting. 723 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 2: Next month I come up with kind of a theme 724 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: hopefully that I will stick to what do I need 725 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: to learn or unlearn about myself in this month? And 726 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 2: that has deeply guided me. I have a full focused planner, 727 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 2: so every single day I had to write down three 728 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 2: of my biggest goals for that day. So having those affirmations, 729 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: knowing like what are my goals for this day? Who 730 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 2: am I going into these goals, and also just giving 731 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: myself the grace most of all to shift in and 732 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: out of those goals and what I'm want to get done. 733 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: I'm very goals orientated, so having that in mind for 734 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 2: me is really helpful. 735 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: I love it. So where can we stay connected with you? Alyssa, 736 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: what is your website as well as any social media 737 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: channels you'd like to share with us. 738 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 2: Yes, in real life, Skin dot com is our website 739 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: and in real life Skin is our Instagram, So follow 740 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 2: me on Instagram, on our website, and soon we'll be 741 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 2: on Amazon and we're also on TikTok as well in 742 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:32,959 Speaker 2: real life. 743 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: Again, perfect, Well, thank you so much for spending some 744 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: time with us today, Alyssa, I appreciate it. 745 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 2: Of course, thank you, thank you. 746 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful Lisa was able to join us for 747 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: our conversation today and share more about her entrepreneurial journey. 748 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: To learn more about her and in real life skincare, 749 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: be sure to visit the show notes at Therapy for 750 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 1: Blackgirls dot com, slash tvgu and don't forget to text 751 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: this episode to two of your girls right now. Did 752 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: you know you could leave us a voicemail with your 753 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: questions and feedback for the podcast. If you have a 754 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: movie or a book you'd like to suggest, or even 755 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: a topic you'd like for us to discuss, leave us 756 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: a voice message at Memo dot fm, slash Therapy for 757 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: Black Girls and let us know what's on your mind. 758 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: We just might feature it on the podcast. If you're 759 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: looking for a therapist in your area, visit our therapist 760 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: directory at Therapy for Blackgirls dot com slash directory. This 761 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: episode was produced by Elise Ellis Indichubu and Tyree Rush. 762 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: Editing was done by Dennison Bradford. Thank y'all so much 763 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: for joining me for this next episode of TVGU I 764 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 1: look forward to continuing this conversation with you all real soon. 765 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: Take good care,