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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode to eighty two of

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Speaker 1: the Hammer Territory Podcast, brought to you by Fox One.

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Speaker 1: I am Scott Coleman, and I am joined on the

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Speaker 1: show this weekend by the one and only Steven Tolbert Steven.

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Speaker 1: We are in the very middle of the MLB playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Football is in full swinging, Hockey is back, Basketball is

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Speaker 1: almost back. October is maybe the best month of the

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Speaker 1: sports calendar. How are you on this Sunday evening?

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Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? Yeah it is.

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Speaker 3: It's a busy time for a sports fan. It's weird

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Speaker 3: to me that hockey is back because I mean, I

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Speaker 3: know you live it out nar Zone and here's still

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Speaker 3: like eighty five degrees every day. Like having hockey back

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Speaker 3: when it's that warmup, hockey should be like a December

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Speaker 3: and after sport. But yeah, everything else is back. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: football is in full swing. Not a lot to talk

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Speaker 3: about for the Braves. We do have a couple of

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Speaker 3: topics we're going to get into tonight about shortstop Mark Bowman,

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Speaker 3: MLB dot Com beat writer released a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: Alex talked about a couple of things, so there's some

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Speaker 3: stuff to talk about, But Yeah, we're kind of in

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Speaker 3: the middle of everyone else doing stuff, MLB playoffs, NFL

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Speaker 3: college football, our fearless Letterer Brad Rowland will be back

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Speaker 3: sometime this week, I think so. But yeah, it's good

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Speaker 3: to be on with you.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: The first topic on the show tonight is maybe not

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Speaker 1: a full on report, but some interesting notes from Mark Bowman,

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Speaker 1: who is the Braves beat reporter for MLB dot com.

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Speaker 1: And Bowman was talking about kind of the big picture

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Speaker 1: questions for the Braves this winter, and in his very

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Speaker 1: first paragraph he noted, and I'm going to quote this,

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Speaker 1: that Hassan Kim is expected to decline his sixteen million

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Speaker 1: dollar player option for the twenty twenty six free season

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Speaker 1: and become a free agent, which is what's expected to

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Speaker 1: be a pretty thin free agent market for shortstops. Now

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Speaker 1: that being said, that's just Bowman's speculation. We have not

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Speaker 1: officially heard anything. Sixteen million dollars is a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: as we have talked about on the show, there's also

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Speaker 1: reasons for Kim to opt out and become a free

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Speaker 1: agent because there's just not going to be a ton

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Speaker 1: So Steven, I guess my take on this, and then

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Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you is, unless there's someone out

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Speaker 1: there we are not thinking of at shortstop, the Braves

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Speaker 1: really need to prioritize Hassan Kim. That might mean you

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Speaker 1: have to give him an extra year, that might mean

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Speaker 1: you have to give him a few extra million dollars.

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Speaker 1: But for me, unless there's just someone out there that

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Speaker 1: is available, I have a hard time figuring out a

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Speaker 1: better solution to the shortstop situation. Frankly, this shortstop problem

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Speaker 1: the Braves have. Then adding has on Kim on some

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Speaker 1: kind of a contract.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so obviously, Bowman, I don't want to say reported

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Speaker 3: reported makes it sound like I don't know if it

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Speaker 3: was speculation. I don't know if he's just straight up reporting.

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Speaker 3: He said expected to is expected to decline his player

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Speaker 3: option and become a free agent. You can parse that

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Speaker 3: down word by word to what that means. I had

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Speaker 3: tweeted and just said that that line was pretty much

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Speaker 3: of people responding like, well, not really, it's kind of expected.

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Speaker 3: We all kind of expected this. I can't say that

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Speaker 3: I fully just expected it to happen, or as I

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Speaker 3: came off a injury riddled you know, his production was down,

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Speaker 3: Like there's a there's a perfectly logical explanation for if

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Speaker 3: one more year on this contract and try to you know,

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Speaker 3: market again, you know doing that Like that's that would

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Speaker 3: be perfectly normal. So I I don't I don't agree

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Speaker 2: I still want to see it.

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Speaker 3: But if it does happen, if he does become a

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Speaker 2: What the Braves are gonna do because.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have to be the highest bidder on a

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Speaker 3: typically the highest bidder on a premium free agent. That's

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Speaker 3: not the space they live in, nor has it ever

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Speaker 3: you know, more value based deals like the Charlie Morton

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Speaker 3: Now it's not gonna be a three hundred million dollar

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Speaker 3: eighty eighty million something like that. One hundred million maybe

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Speaker 3: if if teams get crazy. There's nothing out there at shortstops,

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Speaker 3: so like hus that's you know, the reason Hasike Kim

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Speaker 3: there's no competition, there's teams that need shortstops. He's the

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Speaker 3: best one by far. You know, he might get paid

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Speaker 3: if he goes to free agency and the Braves aren't

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Speaker 3: ready to win a bidding war, I legitimately don't know

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Speaker 3: what they're gonna do with that position because it's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I will say I would be shocked if

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Speaker 1: he comes anywhere near one hundred million dollars at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, he's about to turn thirty years old.

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Speaker 1: He turns thirty years old this week, so happy early

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Speaker 1: birthday has Hunk Kim. But he's coming off a year

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Speaker 1: where he was never healthy. He had the offseason shoulder surgery.

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Speaker 1: He had an eighty two WORC plus on the season.

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Speaker 1: He had a ninety two WRC plus with the Braves

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Speaker 1: in that month of September once he came over. So

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Speaker 1: I am, I could be wrong, but I was gonna

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Speaker 1: throw out like a four year, seventy six million dollar contract.

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Speaker 1: So that would be four years, nineteen million a year

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Speaker 1: that feels not generous, but like I would be very

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Speaker 1: surprised if a team if Hasan Kim gets more than

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Speaker 1: four years and you know, twenty million plus a season.

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Speaker 1: I know there's not a ton out there at shortstop,

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Speaker 1: but I mean he's a solid shortstop, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: but he's not that good. Like like the Braves need

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Speaker 1: Like I want this guy. But if other teams are

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Speaker 1: but I would have to back out. I don't know

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not my money, but it'd be tough

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you might be right, that might be his cap.

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Speaker 3: I just always have in my head, like I watched

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Speaker 3: Hobby Baiez get like one hundred and fifty million dollars

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Speaker 3: I watched Dan's be get like one hundred and eighty million.

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Speaker 3: Turner got like two hundred and three hundred million.

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Speaker 3: Xander Bogart's got three hundred million. Like shortstops get paid

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Speaker 3: it's always more than I expected, and so like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm expecting like seventy million dollars to get him.

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Speaker 2: But if it's always.

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Speaker 3: More than I expect and like it, Like if he

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Speaker 3: signed for one hundred bion dollars, it wouldn't stun me,

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Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't pay it. He wouldn't stun me because

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Speaker 3: he's a shortstop and shortstops don't hit the market that often.

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Speaker 3: But if he goes to free agency, and I do

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Speaker 3: Braves have got to be prepared to win a bidding war,

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Speaker 3: and I just don't know that they're going to do that.

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Speaker 3: And if it gets crazy, and listen, Scott Boris as

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Speaker 3: his agent, and we know what Scott Boris does, He'll

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Speaker 3: he has to. Like Scott Boris has zero interest in

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Speaker 3: a November signing, which is Alex's favorite thing in the world.

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Speaker 3: How many times have we watched Alex at Doppolos signed

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Speaker 3: three months, Like that's not how Boris operates. He holds

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Speaker 3: you have no I have no clue what to expect.

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Speaker 2: So it is going it's going to be fascinating.

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Speaker 1: I think the dream scenario if Bowman is correct that

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Speaker 1: Kim is going to opt out and most players do

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Speaker 1: opt out of player options, like salaries are only going

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Speaker 1: new collective bargaining agreement that's due in a couple of

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Speaker 1: his last chance to get paid. Now, sixteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: could take this sixteen million dollars, put it in our pocket,

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Speaker 1: have a good twenty twenty six season, and then hit

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Speaker 1: his chance. I'm fascinated to see how this plays out,

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Speaker 1: and I think the perfect scenario is the Braves workout

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Speaker 1: and an extension before Kim gets to free agency. But

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Speaker 1: that's you know, if it was any other agent, I

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Speaker 1: would be much more confident in Alex's ability to Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's let's hammer this out. You know what will get

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Speaker 1: you paid. You can go on a vacation with your why,

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Speaker 1: your friends, or whoever you vacation with in the offseason

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Speaker 1: and put a lot of money in the bank. But

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Speaker 1: because it's Scott Boris, I think that's probably easier said

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the agent matters again. Like, I mean, Scott Boris

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Speaker 3: sign extensions and like, wait until mid February, beginning of

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Speaker 3: teams will get involved and like And that's just not

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Speaker 3: how Alex operates at all.

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Speaker 2: He's trying.

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Speaker 3: He tries to get all this stuff done early. Like

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Speaker 3: the the matchup of Alex and Doppolis and Scott Boris.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason the Braves don't sign a lot of

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Speaker 3: Boris clients. Now, I think that has been overblown a

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Speaker 3: little bit, but I think it's more because Alex likes

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Speaker 3: to get his stuff done early, and Boris likes to wait,

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Speaker 3: and you know, if this thing gets to free agency,

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Speaker 1: And I'm curious. So last offseason, Hassan Kim was a

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Speaker 2: He had the pending was it shoulder?

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Speaker 1: So we of course don't know, but how much of

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Speaker 1: Like if you're signing him to be your shorting shortstop

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and because if it's not Kim, let's just let's

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Speaker 2: On Kim will not be the shortstop. Who's it gonna be?

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Speaker 3: I can't I literally can't give you a single name

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be Nick Allen.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 3: One of the more interesting things Alex said in his

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Speaker 2: It doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: You know, how often do the Braves have seven guys

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Speaker 2: It like never happens never.

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Speaker 1: Well, never other than the entirety of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be Nick Allen. I literally, I literally people

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Speaker 1: you a name of the person I think might be

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Speaker 1: I don't think Boba Schet is a serious option. Before

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Speaker 1: we will see very interesting days ahead. Again, just one

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Speaker 1: All right, Steven, we are going to take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Hammer Territory podcast brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Fox One and Stephen Retez did a minute ago.

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Speaker 1: But you actually watched the hour long media availability with

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Speaker 1: know if anybody necessarily expects Marcelo Zuna to be back

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Speaker 1: with the Braves next year, but that's a notable vacancy.

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Speaker 1: Like Ozuna has been the Braves DH basically every day

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Speaker 1: That's a big hole in the middle of the lineup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, and in defense of everybody,

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Speaker 3: the Braves do have a crap ton to do this.

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Speaker 3: This winner and obviously you know Alex. At the first

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Speaker 2: I was watching.

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Speaker 3: I was like, no one is talking about DH, and listen,

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Speaker 3: the Braves have never had to go find a DH.

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Speaker 2: Ever. The DH was introduced.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two when the new CBA was signed

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Speaker 3: him to that one year deal in twenty twenty He

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Speaker 3: Had to get this position field because they've just always

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Speaker 2: And this is the first offseason they're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: And you know, you and I have talked about it,

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Speaker 3: and and Brad and Sean like we we want an outfielder.

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Speaker 3: But again, the Braves have so much to do this winner.

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Speaker 3: I want like a Cody Belger level hitter, but like

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna do that. Again, Let's play another hypothetical.

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Speaker 2: Then what do you do?

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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't think it's gonna be Kyle Schwarber.

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Speaker 1: If I was a betting man? And of course it's

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Speaker 1: just bench Murphy. I know Murphy has his fans and

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Speaker 1: the show, he would all he would take back that

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Speaker 1: Sean Murphy. But guess man like general managers don't bat

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Speaker 1: see fans talking about that. Yeah, of course he wants

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Speaker 1: I'll get off that soapbox. But we know how good

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Speaker 1: Drake Baldwin is. You want Baldwin's bat in that lineup

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Speaker 1: my guess as of today is that they will do

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Speaker 1: always rotate in somebody else. If you add a lesser outfielder,

436
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: then you could still have Profar Dh. You could have

437
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: a Kunya Dh if you need to. It's not like

438
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: sitting Murphy or Baldwin for a day or two is

439
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: going to be the end of the world. But that

440
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 1: that is my guess because of the other more glaring

441
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: holes they have on this roster.

442
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so obviously the you know, the the hip tear

443
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: that Murphy's sustained, well, we don't know when, we don't

444
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 3: know how long ago he sustained it. We found out

445
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 3: about it in September. He said he's been dealing with

446
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 3: it for years, which was wild. But he had the surgery,

447
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: so you know what his timetable is going to be,

448
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: how good he looks is probably going to affect that conversation.

449
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 3: If they did that, then you have to reserve. If

450
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: you're going to use both catchers every day, then you

451
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 3: have to reserve one of your bench spots for a

452
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: third catcher. Obvious, so you have to factor that into

453
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 3: your roster building. It's one less bench spot because you

454
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: do have to carry a third You can't play both

455
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: your catchers every single day and not have a third

456
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 3: catcher somewhere. So that's one. If they're gonna do that. Two, well,

457
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 3: you and I have talked about that. I think you

458
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: and I specifically have talked about this before about how

459
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 3: a catcher at DH is just less valuable. It is

460
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: because they're just not the same level hitters. But again,

461
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: if you've got other needs, I'll say this, I don't

462
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: think the Braves, I don't want to put my foot

463
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Speaker 3: in my mouth. I don't think the Braves are gonna

464
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: go spend a bunch of money on an outfielder or

465
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Speaker 3: a DH. I do think there's a world where they

466
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Speaker 3: trade for somebody who maybe doesn't make a ton of money,

467
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 3: who can play outfield, maybe even infield, like like a

468
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: Brandon Law type of player who makes you know, I

469
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 3: think he makes like twelve million a years, nothing crazy.

470
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Speaker 3: But the trade market is always available, and I kind

471
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 3: of forget that in my head. I always think, like, well,

472
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 3: they got to go sign somebody, they spend a bunch

473
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: of money.

474
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: They don't have to do that.

475
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 3: They could go trade for someone who makes no money.

476
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 3: Get trade for a guy who's only in the first

477
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: couple of years of his career and it makes league minimum.

478
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: It can still, you know, rotate around different spots. I

479
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 3: don't know, it's another position. I don't have a good

480
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: feel for it all. It's like short stung. You put

481
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: a gun in my head right now and said, who's

482
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 3: gonna be the DH next year? I have zero clue.

483
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: I have no feel for this onsoever. I don't even

484
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: know what position they're gonna even try to target. Catcher

485
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: makes sense just because it's inertia, it's already on the roster.

486
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 3: It's you don't have to do anything. You can just

487
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: go sign a random third catcher somewhere and call it

488
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 3: a day. But yeah, it's gonna be interest to see

489
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: because there's there's a ton of ways there's a ton

490
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: of different ways they could do it.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I was just thinking as we talk.

492
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Speaker 1: So let's say hypothetically they put all their money into

493
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Speaker 1: a starting pitcher, a closer, another bullpen arm, and a

494
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 1: shortstop and we feel good about the roster. But they're

495
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: just kind of adding money, whether they should be or not.

496
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

497
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: Well, with Sean Murphy coming back from this torn hip surgery,

498
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: we don't know exactly what his timeline is going to be.

499
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: And then, just like any other catcher, Murphy could get

500
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: hurt again, or God forbid, Drake Baldwin could get hurt again.

501
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: If you go into the season with those two is

502
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: your dhs and one of them get hurt, and the

503
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 1: likelihood is one of them is probably going to get

504
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: hurt over a six month season if you don't add

505
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: another bat, who is your DH, like yeah, Eli White

506
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: or I mean maybe Jake Frayley if they bring him

507
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: back an ORB for like four million dollars like that,

508
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: that's not good enough. I mean that you talk about

509
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: holes in your lineup. Now, if it's a minor injury,

510
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: if Baldwin's out for three weeks, the season is probably

511
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: not going to be determined. In those three weeks where

512
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: you know it's do or die. But there's even more

513
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: risk built in with dhing your catcher tandem, and that

514
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: feels like it kind of blow up on the braves,

515
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: especially without knowing exactly what Sean Murphy is gonna look

516
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: like after a pretty serious surgery that he underwent.

517
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's fair.

518
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: It's a fair question.

519
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 3: Like and that's why I wanted another outfielder was because hey,

520
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: it'll let you rest your catchers when they're not catching,

521
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: so you actually get the benefit of the rest.

522
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: B it's another.

523
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: Depth piece for your outfield who you've never.

524
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 2: Been able to keep healthy.

525
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: See, it gets either a Cunya profar or you know,

526
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 3: brand new acquisition you know off the field, especially a

527
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 3: Cunyan profar, like in that scenario you just laid out.

528
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm assuming if like Murphy got hurt, then Eli White

529
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: would go to like left field and profar with DH.

530
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, I have no clue what they what

531
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: they would do, but then you got Eli White as

532
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 3: your left fielder, and so you know, yeah, they they

533
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: probably do need to add a bat of some you know,

534
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: you could probably argue for a guy like Jake Frayley.

535
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: You could you could even platoon it with a righty

536
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: lefty combo on your bench somewhere, find a right handed hitter.

537
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 3: That's kind of the you know, the inverse of Frehley.

538
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: We'll see if they end up tindering Frehley a contract.

539
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: But there's a lot, there's there's a lot of ways

540
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: they can do.

541
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: And then you start to run out of roster spots. Yeah,

542
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: you do, because as we just said, if you're carrying

543
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: the catcher tandem thing, then you have to have a third.

544
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: But even if it's Sandy Leone, you got to have

545
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: a backup infield there. You got to probably have Eli White,

546
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: who I mean, Eli White had a fine season, but

547
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: I don't think we want Eli White to have four

548
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: hundred plate appearances next season, correct, And that's a possibility.

549
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: So again, it's very early. I mean, technically the offseason

550
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: is still three weeks away. But it was interesting when

551
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: you noted that DH basically wasn't brought up, and it's

552
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: kind of off to the side with good reason. I

553
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: think they can address DH somehow. Anybody can be a

554
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: DH right, Like, they're not trying to find a second

555
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: basement on top of everything else, or we don't anticipate

556
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: them looking for a second basement on top of everything else.

557
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: But nonetheless keep an eye on DH. There's some options here,

558
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: whether it's internal options or if they go out there.

559
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: I like your trade idea, especially if there's somebody who

560
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: you could add and then have money to add a

561
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: starter and a shortstop and some bullpen help, because those

562
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: are in my mind higher up on the totem pole.

563
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: And I'll add this or I'll finish with this, we'll

564
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 3: move on. There was a valid report that the Braves

565
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: were interested in Byron Buxton. Now he's not, and he's

566
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to leave Minnesota.

567
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: He made that very clear.

568
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: He's going to veto any trade. So it's not gonna

569
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: be Buxton.

570
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: But like he says that, but if if they sell

571
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: off Joe Ryan and Pablo Lopez, maybe to the Braves,

572
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: Like if those guys get traded, and he's looking around

573
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: now he has like a big family, Like he may

574
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: not want to move his kids. That that's why you

575
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: have no trade clauses. But he might come back on

576
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: that at some point.

577
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: Well see, but the whole point is the Braves already

578
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: had three outfielders on the contract when they were talking

579
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: to the twins about Byron Buxton. So like this idea

580
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: of an outfielder, a four starting caliber outfielder is not

581
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: something they have not thought about. I know they've definitely

582
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: thought it now again.

583
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 2: Byron Bucks. That makes a lot of money. I think

584
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: he makes like fifteen to sixteen minutes. It's not a

585
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: lot of money. Actually that's it's pretty good.

586
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: But I could see them trading for somebody. It doesn't

587
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: make do it. You don't have to go out and

588
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 3: pay a ton of money for and kind of kill

589
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: two birds with one stone here. I think I think

590
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: it should be an outfielder. I've said that from the

591
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: beginning that Braves have not been able to keep Acuna

592
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: pro form or Harris healthy at all.

593
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: Go get another outfielder.

594
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: But even if it's like a third basement maybe to

595
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: help with Riley or second basement help with Ozzie. You

596
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: can go a lot of ways. But I would not

597
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 3: be surprised at all to trade.

598
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, so we will see what the next couple

599
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 1: of weeks, a couple of months hold the Braves have.

600
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: I guess some different roadways they could take and maybe

601
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Steven and I don't feel super confident where they're gonna

602
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: go with with how they're gonna improve this roster. But

603
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: let's hope they spend some money. They have some prospects

604
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: they could trade. Let's get this roster back to where

605
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: we want it to be, and let's get some depth

606
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: on this roster, because I feel like the last couple

607
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: of years, the Braves depth has just been.

608
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: Wait, so real quick, do you think it's gonna be Ozuna?

609
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: No?

610
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either.

611
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: I I say no. I think if they got to

612
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: like February and Ozuna was like, you know what, guys,

613
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: I'll come back on a one year, eight million dollar deal,

614
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: six million, ten million, as long as the other spots

615
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: on the roster have been addressed, I think I'd be

616
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: cool with that, just to see if maybe he can

617
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: bounce back. But I I don't know. But then you

618
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: know what I say that. But you talk to anyone

619
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: around the Braves and they all rave about Ozuna in

620
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: the clubhouse. The players love him. He's kind of like

621
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: a big brother to a lot of the young guys

622
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: on the team, like Matt Olsen has publicly credited him

623
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: for fixing his swing a couple of years ago. Like

624
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: so I said no as my first reaction to that,

625
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: But I'm talking myself off it a little bit. Where

626
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: are you at with Ozuna?

627
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: I don't want it to happen. I think it's very

628
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: possible that it could happen.

629
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to.

630
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to somebody on the roster who can't

631
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 3: play defense. Were we talked about that before. I think

632
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: it's too restrictive. So I have zero interest in and

633
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: Marcelo's inna coming back at any price. That's my personal feeling.

634
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: If you said, do you think it could happen? One

635
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: hundred percent, I think it could happen. I think the

636
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: scenario you just laid out into the it's end of

637
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: the off season. He's got no offers. You know, no

638
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: one knows what to expect with the hip. He's got

639
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: his own hip problems, the age. You know, he didn't

640
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: have a great season. He's put on some weight. You know,

641
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: he's got no market. The bra is like, you know,

642
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: would you come back for five million bucks? Yeah, with

643
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: some incentives on there or something like that, Yeah.

644
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

645
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: I could. I could see what We'll give you an

646
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: extra three million dollars like that kind of thing.

647
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, a game, Yeah, games played, incentive homers. Yeah, yeah,

648
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: it's something like that. I can one hundred percent see

649
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 3: that happening. I don't want it to happen, but I

650
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: could see that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Stephen, we are going to wrap up the

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Speaker 1: show with a little bit of baseball playoff talk. We

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Speaker 1: had an all timer on was it Friday night between

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Speaker 1: the Tigers and the Mariners fifteen innings? I mean it

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Speaker 1: was if somebody said the name Chris Burke on that broadcast, who,

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Speaker 1: of course hit the homer against the Braves. I think

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Speaker 1: in the eighteenth inning for the Astros back in five.

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Speaker 2: It was late Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right, very bad memory, deep play.

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Speaker 1: Sorry for the Chris Burke mention here on the pod,

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Speaker 1: but the ALCS is said, it's actually going on this

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Speaker 1: very moment as we record. By the time people listen,

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Speaker 1: they will know one of those teams will be ahead.

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Speaker 1: But of course it is the Toronto Blue Jays and

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners and boy Alive, Stephen. If I put

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Speaker 1: some serious cash on those two teams being in the

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Speaker 1: ALCS seven months ago, I'd be doing okay. But should

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Speaker 1: be a fun series. Two teams that have I mean,

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Speaker 1: Seattle has never won it. Blue Jays back in the

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Speaker 1: day were involved, but I mean it's been a long

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Speaker 1: time for both of those franchises and hopefully a fun series.

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Speaker 1: As a baseball fan, I just hope for a good, fun,

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Speaker 1: competitive series.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's new blood, right,

706
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Speaker 3: I mean, these are two teams we haven't seen. Toronto

707
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Speaker 3: is such a fun baseball town, you know, and there's

708
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Speaker 3: Braves tyme like Alex and Thopolos was the GM back

709
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Speaker 3: when they had their run with you know, Jose Bautista

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Speaker 3: and Edwin and Carnacione and Troy Tulowitzki was on Josh

711
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Speaker 3: Donson was on those teams.

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Speaker 2: Like it was a fun team.

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Speaker 3: And you know when we were watching the the NL,

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Speaker 3: the arm Sorry, the Alds with the Yankees those first

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Speaker 3: two games in Toronto, it was just like, man, this

716
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Speaker 3: place is an awesome baseball Like this place goes nuts

717
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Speaker 3: for baseball. And the Blue Jays beat the crap out

718
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Speaker 3: of the Yankees. For the Yankees finally got one of

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Speaker 3: the game in Game three, but you know, the Blue

720
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Speaker 3: Jays outscore them about like thirty runs in that series.

721
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: So really fun series. You know, that fifteen inning game

722
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Speaker 3: with the Tigers and the Mariners was some of the

723
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Speaker 3: most fun I've had watching like all of all of baseball.

724
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 3: Twitter was like watching that game together. Everybody was online.

725
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: It was hysterical, like they kept no one could score

726
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: and people might not know this or maybe maybe not

727
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 3: remember there's no ghost runner in the postseason. You have

728
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Speaker 3: to just score like you used to have to score,

729
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: just create it all on your own. And these two

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Speaker 3: teams for the I mean, they had base runners everywhere.

731
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: I felt like I was watching a Brais game. In

732
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: the first half they had base runners, ever could not

733
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Speaker 3: score a run.

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Speaker 2: It was wild.

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Speaker 3: Finally the Mariners broke through. I'm really happy for Seattle.

736
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Speaker 3: That's a town that has gone through some miserable times,

737
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Speaker 3: especially in baseball. They lost their basketball.

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Speaker 1: Team, Like did you see the clips of like lifelong

739
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Speaker 1: Mariners fans like balling their eyes out either at the

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Speaker 1: stadium or in like their living rooms, and like, like

741
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Speaker 1: I mean, probably what a lot of Braves fans were

742
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: doing four years ago when they won the World Series,

743
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: like just in pure euphoria of finally getting to the Alcs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and like, you know, the Braves, you know,

745
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: we're pretty spoiled, Like we go to the playoffs all

746
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Speaker 3: the time.

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Speaker 2: Like the Mariners, they do not live that life.

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Speaker 3: They they live a lot of like they you know,

749
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Speaker 3: they're a lower payroll team, a lot of five hundred

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Speaker 3: and below seasons. They finally put it all together. They

751
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: got a really fun team. Of course, you know Big Dumper,

752
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: one of the greatest nicknames in the history of the sport. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm rooting for Seattle. I really want Seattle to win

754
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: the whole thing, but it's gonna be fun. And then

755
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: obviously on the n L side, you've got you know,

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Speaker 3: the Brewers and the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: The Brewers went.

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Speaker 3: Six and o versus the Dodgers this year, which I

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00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: think I knew that, but I guess I had forgotten it.

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00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: I saw that stat yesterday. They played six games, the

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Speaker 3: Brewers won all six. The Dodgers are going to be

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Speaker 3: heavy favorites. I think I saw their like minus two

763
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Speaker 3: twenty in the series, which is wild. It's considering the

764
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Speaker 3: Brewers went six and oh against them in the regulars'

765
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: that's how much freaking talent the dodge the Dodgers roster

766
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Speaker 3: is and somehow they got them all to the postseason

767
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: like healthy. They weren't healthy for all season, but when

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Speaker 3: they got to October, everyone's back. They got Otani pitching,

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Speaker 3: they got Yamamoto pitching, they got you know, they got

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Speaker 3: Eat Blake Sneill pitching. They got all their pitchers back,

771
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Speaker 3: and of course the lineup is just disgusting. So that'll

772
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: be a fun series. It'd be you know, the Brewers

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Speaker 3: have home field advantage. They had the best record in baseball.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

775
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: I love playoff baseball, which the Braids are in it,

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Speaker 3: but they're not, and I'm gonna watch it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Brewers have become a player development machine. It's insane.

779
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Speaker 1: Like I knew they were kind of doing it with

780
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Speaker 1: a bunch of ragtag guys and all you know from

781
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: all over and every off season it feels like the

782
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: Brewers lose one or two really good free agents, like

783
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: they lost Willie Damas last offseason. You know, like how

784
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: many teams lose franchise shortstops and just keep on going.

785
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: And they've lost pitchers over the years.

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Speaker 3: They lost out like Corbyn burn they lost their ace.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Corbyn Burns. I was trying. I'm like, I

788
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: knew they lost somebody else. Yeah, like the beat goes on.

789
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: They don't have a big payroll, but they are just

790
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Speaker 1: a player development machine. I mean, if you asked one

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Speaker 1: hundred baseball fans who are not Dodger fans and are

792
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Speaker 1: not Brewer fans, what percent are rooting for the Brewers

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Speaker 1: in this series? Like ninety seven percent, ninety eight percent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it is. It is David vers Goliath

795
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Speaker 1: in that sense.

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Speaker 3: And that's the funny thing is that, Like that's how

797
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: everybody's gonna see it. That's how the that's how the

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00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: odds makers see it. Again, the Dodgers are massive favorites,

799
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: but the Brewers went six and oh against this team

800
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: in the regular season. No, the regular season is different.

801
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: It is a very different game. The the pitching in

802
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: this series is gonna be nasty. The Brewers pitching staff. Yeah,

803
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: I mean I think you. I can't remember if it

804
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: was you. You and I are you and Sean talking

805
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: about like these teams have these random guys you've never

806
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 3: heard of throwing one hundred miles an hour. The Brewers

807
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: are like the poster child for this. Yeah, everybody they

808
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: bring out of their pulpit those ninety nine miles an

809
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: hour with the nasties you've ever seen, every reliever, every somehow,

810
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Speaker 3: I'm like, who is this guy? It's it's crazy, Like

811
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Speaker 3: I couldn't I don't know that I can name another

812
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: starting pitcher outside of Freddie Peralta off the Brewers team.

813
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 3: Ms Rosky, I know, but he's in the bullpen now.

814
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Speaker 3: Like they've just got a just a army of pictures

815
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 3: that all through just the nastiest stuff you've ever seen,

816
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Speaker 3: and then they kind of piece it together with a lineup.

817
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: You know, Christian yellick Is is the biggest name in

818
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: that lineup, but he's not even like, you know, Bill Contreros.

819
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: Of course Brace fans know him, but it's like a

820
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: it's like a one through nine lineup, Like they don't

821
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: have a ton of like superstars. Yeah, it's they really

822
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: are a player development monster. And so it's gonna be

823
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Speaker 3: it's going to be fascinating to watch that series the

824
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Speaker 3: whole I mean the whole playoffs. I would love to

825
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: see the Mariners win it all. But it's gonna be

826
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Speaker 3: funny the way.

827
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Speaker 1: So with all of America watching and tuning in live, Stephen,

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Speaker 1: your official prediction, what is the World Series and who

829
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Speaker 1: wins the World Series? I?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the Dodgers are gonna win it

831
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Speaker 3: because their Dodgers' roster is just the nastiest roster I've

832
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: ever seen, and somehow they're all healthy right now. I

833
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: have zero interest in that. I want the Dodgers to

834
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Speaker 3: get swept by the Brewers. I would love to see Brewers, Mariners,

835
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Speaker 3: and Mariners win it. My heart is saying Mariners, my

836
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: head is saying Dodgers. I don't know how you beat

837
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Speaker 3: this Dodgers team. Like Otani had a horrible NLDS. I

838
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: had one hit I think it was one for twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Didn't matter. They still won.

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Speaker 3: And like what if he has a normal one, but

841
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Speaker 3: if he has a normal like even like Mookie and

842
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: Freddy had very average in LDS and they still won.

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Speaker 3: So I think the Dodgers gonna win an Inle's lame.

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Speaker 3: I would love the Mariners to win it.

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Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, anybody but the Dodgers is kind of where

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Speaker 1: I'm at with it. I do think La gets past

847
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: the Brewers unfortunately, and I don't know. I kind of

848
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Speaker 1: think home field is gonna matter for the Toronto Seattle series.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that the Blue Jays are gonna win a

850
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: close one, but man, I mean that that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really fun Baseball and Blue.

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Speaker 2: Jays would be like I love the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 3: Blue Jays Dodgers would actually be a really fun I

854
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: mean honestly, any any combination of the four would be

855
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Speaker 3: a really fun one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. World Series and to be a fly on the

857
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Speaker 1: wall in the Fox executive suite when it is the

858
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Speaker 1: Brewers and the Mariners in the World Series, I think

859
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Speaker 1: baseball fans would enjoy it. Like fans who are gonna

860
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Speaker 1: watch it could be any any of the thirty teams

861
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Speaker 1: like you and I, people watching the show listening, people

862
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Speaker 1: who are gonna tune in. No matter what. But you know,

863
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Speaker 1: Joe and Middle America's probably not turning in nor you know,

864
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: tuning in for a Seattle. Well maybe Milwaukee. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, all right, Steven, that's probably enough. On this

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Speaker 1: weekend edition of the Hammer Territory Podcast, again a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks out from the offseason, the Braves are also

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Speaker 1: fully looking for a manager. I know we didn't really

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Speaker 1: talk about it on the show, but who knows. Maybe

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Speaker 1: his teams have gotten eliminated from the playoffs. That opens

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Speaker 1: up the door for some candidates for the Braves. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that Alexanthopolis has talked to numerous people at this point.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I will say this one thing, because we did

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Speaker 3: talk about this on the show. One thing he did

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Speaker 3: say in his exit interview was if you are interviewing

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Speaker 3: somebody who is currently in the playoffs, the team, the

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Speaker 3: teams he.

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Speaker 2: Talks to, they will always work with you to like

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Speaker 2: on an off day.

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Speaker 3: Have that so you don't have to wait until they're

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Speaker 3: eliminated from the playoffs to Like I was thinking, like

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Speaker 3: if the if the Braves wanted to talk to, you know,

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Speaker 3: somebody on Chicago or LA or whatever, they had to

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Speaker 3: wait till they were eliminated, and Alex said, no, that's

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Speaker 3: not the case. Teams work with you on the off

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Speaker 3: days to let those guys do that in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the playoffs, so just FYI.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the beauty of like, like a bench

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Speaker 1: coach is obviously busy. I don't want to pretend like

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Speaker 1: the days off. But it's you know, it's not like

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Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator in an NFL game or something like that,

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Speaker 1: where it might be a little harder to get a

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Speaker 1: couple hours of time. But yeah, so we'll see. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me. I mean, ony, we could get

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Speaker 1: be two or three weeks and we're like, all right, boys,

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Speaker 1: anytime now, who's the higher. We'll see how it plays out. Yep,

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Speaker 1: all right, Stephen, this was a pleasure. As always, Again

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Speaker 1: a big thank you to people for checking out the show,

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with a couple more shows this week.

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Speaker 1: show on. If there's no breaking News. I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: we will find something to talk about with the Atlanta Braves.

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