WEBVTT - Draft Show: Backs Against the Wall?

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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<v Speaker 2>Today is Tuesday, March ninth, twenty twenty four, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are officially thirty seven days away from the NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 2>in Detroit, Michigan. Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by

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<v Speaker 2>Miller Lte live from the Star in Frisco, Texas. Insigned

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<v Speaker 2>the s WBC Studios, we have Zach Walchuk, Nick Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian brod Us making her triumphant return, Aisha Morrison. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us, Chris being running everything

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<v Speaker 2>in the back thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Days March nineteenth. By the way, what did I say?

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<v Speaker 4>You said March ninth. It's fine, you know, just.

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<v Speaker 5>For the you know the one and the nine, a

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<v Speaker 5>lot whatever whatever, one, ninth three, you know nine, Kyle

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<v Speaker 5>and I barely lab It's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not. Yeah. Everything good, Everything's good. You're doing

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<v Speaker 3>all right? Good, Nick, we failed to box everybody out

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<v Speaker 3>for sec How are babies doing. The babies are good.

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<v Speaker 3>You're doing a solid. How are your babies good over

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<v Speaker 3>there and outside of the table.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, one of them is down here, so there we go.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he's here too.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's talk about our draft babies. Let's talk about drafting.

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<v Speaker 6>They do become our children.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never going to refer to them as that ever again,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, I'll help go ahead and refrain.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty seven days away, Brian pro Day's are in full effect.

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's this time of year really feel like for

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<v Speaker 2>those scouts across the hall.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, they're trying to figure out right now, they're trying

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<v Speaker 7>to kind of run down some of the numbers they

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<v Speaker 7>didn't get at the Combine.

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<v Speaker 3>There were a lot of players that didn't do uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the did the.

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<v Speaker 7>The like the shuttles and things like that, the three cones,

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<v Speaker 7>things that they need to kind of fill in on

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<v Speaker 7>their boards.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>And also this is the opportunity to for these coaches

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<v Speaker 7>to get out look at these players and work them

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<v Speaker 7>out themselves. They at the Combine, they saw them work

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<v Speaker 7>out there. Now they physically get to put hands on

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<v Speaker 7>these guys and kind of work them through the drills

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<v Speaker 7>and stuff like that. So you know, you get your

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<v Speaker 7>thirty visits coming up. That'll be probably the first of April.

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<v Speaker 7>So they're going to knock out all these pro days

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<v Speaker 7>and then they're gonna come back and they're going to

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<v Speaker 7>start putting this board together. But it's an important time

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<v Speaker 7>for those guys. A lot of pressure on these players

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<v Speaker 7>that didn't work out at the Combine. You know, now

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<v Speaker 7>you're putting kind of all your eggs in one basket.

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<v Speaker 7>You're saying, Okay, here we go. We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 7>Pro day for you. And if you, you know, say

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<v Speaker 7>you run a slow time. I know there's some thought

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<v Speaker 7>about Lasseter the corner from Georgia didn't run a particularly

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<v Speaker 7>great time in his pro day, and so now the

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<v Speaker 7>worry of when you don't run at the Combine and

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<v Speaker 7>then you run it your Pro day and you don't

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<v Speaker 7>have a particularly fast time, you're running out of days

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<v Speaker 7>to kind of make that up. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>guys kind of a lot of stress going on out there.

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<v Speaker 7>But Scott's trying to get all their numbers together, the

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<v Speaker 7>coaches are trying to get an idea about working these

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<v Speaker 7>guys out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it feels like these pro days are the final

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity to add data into these guys and be able

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<v Speaker 4>to build context before you bring them in for thirty visits.

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<v Speaker 4>Those thirty visits happening between now and April for certain teams.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds like the Cowboys more so April, but that'll be

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<v Speaker 4>the true final opportunity to get an opportunity to see

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<v Speaker 4>who these guys are off the field and what they

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<v Speaker 4>can learn or what they can show as far as

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<v Speaker 4>on the whiteboard. And they do a lot as far

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<v Speaker 4>as putting those guys in certain situations, and they really

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<v Speaker 4>test them in those rooms and it's mentally taxing. I

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't imagine doing thirty of them over the course of

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<v Speaker 4>a weekend. But yeah, that's going to be a really

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<v Speaker 4>fun weekend. And then after that it's draft time.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the pre March nineteenth pro days that have

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<v Speaker 2>already been in the books Texas, A and m Miami, Iowa,

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado State, who has a couple prospects on both sides

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball, Penn State, Ucla, Clemson, Arizona, Minnesota, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>like Brian said, Arkansas, Michigan State, some of the ones, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the ones that are coming up to today,

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Toledo and Wyoming. The fight it was also today Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>A and m Okay, this list says yesterday, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama one tomorrow, Texas is tomorrow, USC is tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Harris will be out of the Texas Pro Day

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<v Speaker 3>and Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 2>So a big day of rolling into Wednesday this week

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<v Speaker 2>and lots of lots of things to look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>on the Pro Day.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are you looking forward to tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm really excited to see all those guys that

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<v Speaker 4>they have. You talk about to Andre Sweat Byron Murphy

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<v Speaker 4>at a night, Mitchell, Xavier Worthy. I mean, there's some

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<v Speaker 4>really talented guys down there at Texas, but one guy

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm really excited to see, and we talked about

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<v Speaker 4>him a little bit off the show last week. Kyle

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<v Speaker 4>was Jordan Whittington, the receiver for them that they brought

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<v Speaker 4>in and the class of twenty nineteen. They expected him

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<v Speaker 4>to be a feature guide right off the bat, battled

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<v Speaker 4>injury for his first three years, but eventually was able

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<v Speaker 4>to build stability as far as his health goes over

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<v Speaker 4>the course of the last two seasons, and unfortunately Texas

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of had to recruit over him and bring

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<v Speaker 4>in Xavier Worthy. Bringing ad Mitchell so he may not

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<v Speaker 4>have the statistics that you know some of the these

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<v Speaker 4>other receivers will have in the class. But I think

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<v Speaker 4>once he runs tomorrow, he's gonna impress a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's gonna drop a really impressive time given

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<v Speaker 4>his size.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a question for you, folks.

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<v Speaker 9>So you brought up Lassiter if I'm not mistaken, Brian,

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<v Speaker 9>So at one point in time, like say, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 9>run a good for you time, but when you see

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<v Speaker 9>him on film, his transitions are smooth, the timing is there,

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<v Speaker 9>and everything.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't. And that's something that I struggle with with.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, looking deeper into these players is like putting

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<v Speaker 9>a value on these combine pro days, but then also

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<v Speaker 9>understanding like some players just I mean, you teach these

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<v Speaker 9>kids learn how to test. A lot of them test

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<v Speaker 9>well because they have done, you know, the necessary preparation

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<v Speaker 9>to test. But I'm just gonna ask you, guys, how

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<v Speaker 9>do you decipher, you know, where this guy really belongs

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<v Speaker 9>or whatever? If you're looking at him on tape and

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<v Speaker 9>guys aren't just beating him over the top. Guys, he's

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<v Speaker 9>carrying guys across the receiver the formation. But at the

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<v Speaker 9>same time, it's like, Okay, well he's not running this

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<v Speaker 9>forty Well, how do you I guess maybe, as I guess,

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<v Speaker 9>Brian is a better person to ask what in general, guys,

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<v Speaker 9>how do y'all separate those things from what you see

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<v Speaker 9>on film.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's specifically interesting with Lass because I've liked

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<v Speaker 4>what he could bring from a Nickel perspective, And if

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<v Speaker 4>there's trouble with speed, then you have to think about

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<v Speaker 4>guys he's covering, you know what the Tyreek kills and

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<v Speaker 4>you can even talk about the seed lambs. As far

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<v Speaker 4>as speed goes, but you see those fluid hips, you

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<v Speaker 4>see that the transition and his footwork. That's why I

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<v Speaker 4>think he could be a better Nickel. But as far

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<v Speaker 4>as long speed goes, I think at the corner position,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't want to sacrifice that as much as you

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<v Speaker 4>maybe would with the safety position. You know, you look

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<v Speaker 4>at a guy like Cameron Kitchens, who I have been

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<v Speaker 4>high on in the process, did not have a good

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<v Speaker 4>combine as far as testing goes and explosion testing goes.

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<v Speaker 4>With his broad and his vertical, that stuff gives me

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of concern, but it would give me

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<v Speaker 4>a lot more concern if he was a corner just

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<v Speaker 4>because I want him to be able to bounce off

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<v Speaker 4>the line with a really a physical receiver or a

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<v Speaker 4>really speedy receiver. One of the two would be able

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<v Speaker 4>to run with him step for step. Whereas a safety,

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<v Speaker 4>I just I focus on the instincts more than I

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<v Speaker 4>would focus on the athleticism. The athleticism needs to be there,

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<v Speaker 4>it's football, but I would focus on the instincts a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more. I think there's a little bit more

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<v Speaker 4>flexibility there at the safety position, okay, And with.

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<v Speaker 10>The last I think he shows instincts when you watch

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<v Speaker 10>him play. Like the one thing I do have in

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<v Speaker 10>my notes, which might be somewhat okay, that is a

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<v Speaker 10>red flag with the speed as he does get a

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<v Speaker 10>little grabby downfield, and maybe that's a guy starting to

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<v Speaker 10>pull away from him with that deep speed, and he'll

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<v Speaker 10>start to yank a little bit to make sure that

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<v Speaker 10>he doesn't create too much separation. But overall, I mean, Brian,

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know if you agree with this or not,

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<v Speaker 10>but I always am just gonna go back to the film.

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<v Speaker 10>What did I see on tape? I think there's a

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<v Speaker 10>difference sometimes between testing speed and game speed. Some guys

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<v Speaker 10>just don't test really well. Other guys will test well,

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<v Speaker 10>then that doesn't always translate. If you're able to marry

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<v Speaker 10>the two, that's awesome. But if a dude doesn't test well,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna revert back to what did I see? What

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<v Speaker 10>were my notes when I went and watched him play.

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<v Speaker 10>I care more about what you do with pads in

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<v Speaker 10>game on the field than what you're doing in your underwear.

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<v Speaker 3>Olympics.

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<v Speaker 7>I built this into my notes because I said I

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<v Speaker 7>thought he played with more quickness than he does speed.

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<v Speaker 7>So I knew going in that this guy probably wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>going to run all that well. But he wants to

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<v Speaker 7>take contact early. He wants to try and be disruptive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>that's his whole idea. I have the same problem with

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<v Speaker 7>King from Penn State. I'm watching this guy play at

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<v Speaker 7>a very high level cover people, doesn't run particularly well,

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<v Speaker 7>but then all of a sudden, he runs a four

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<v Speaker 7>to one six short shuttle twenty shuttle. So now I'm thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>the guy's got lateral agility, he's got some quickness to

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<v Speaker 7>his feet. You know, I can deal with that, but man,

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<v Speaker 7>it is it's a difficult situation you deal with. Johnny Wilson,

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<v Speaker 7>the tall receiver from Florida State.

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<v Speaker 3>He's six six.

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<v Speaker 7>He's rare that you have a six I think Colin

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<v Speaker 7>Johnson was the last person that we saw in the

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<v Speaker 7>league that was a six to sixth receiver that I

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<v Speaker 7>think the Colts took him or somebody like that was

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<v Speaker 7>in it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, Jacksonville maybe, Yeah, it was one of those

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<v Speaker 3>teams in.

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<v Speaker 7>This South, And I think but the the thing about

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<v Speaker 7>it is, you he doesn't run particularly well, but he

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<v Speaker 7>makes all these plays. So all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 7>start to sit there and you're thinking, God, they play

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<v Speaker 7>a lot faster than on tape then, and there's there's

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<v Speaker 7>some guys that if you put pads on him, they're

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<v Speaker 7>going to run for six. If you take the pads

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<v Speaker 7>off them, they're going to run for six.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's some of the things that you kind of

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<v Speaker 7>have to feel like that you deal with in these drafts.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, because even Darius Robinson Miszoo, he didn't exactly run

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<v Speaker 9>a good forty You look at him on tape exactly everywhere.

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, I just I just want to know what

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<v Speaker 9>ch'all's process of elimination is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think for me it's mostly context more than

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<v Speaker 2>it is evaluation. Whenever it comes to running, because the

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<v Speaker 2>evaluation comes on tape, you trust the tape, You trust

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<v Speaker 2>your eyes, you trust your notes. Like Zach was talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>you go back and refer to it and you use

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<v Speaker 2>it as context as Hey, maybe he will run a

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<v Speaker 2>four to six with pads or without pads, but hell

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<v Speaker 2>with the pads, he is a phenomenal player, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>able to play down hill and he's able to show

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<v Speaker 2>that athleticism.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's a context thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all the information that you're gathering along the way

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<v Speaker 2>that just helps you build a complete picture of the prospect,

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<v Speaker 2>and it teaches you kind of where you can and

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<v Speaker 2>cannot use him.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been in rooms where I've heard scouts a guy

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<v Speaker 7>says he can't run, he can't run, he can't run,

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<v Speaker 7>he can't run. And then a scout stood up and said,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't care where you mfors put this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He is going to be a great player in this league.

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<v Speaker 7>And sure enough, you know, guy ends up playing twelve

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<v Speaker 7>thirteen years. Well, there was a receiver back in the

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<v Speaker 7>day Florida State way back Ravens.

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<v Speaker 3>What's that Andkwin Bolden it's a pretty good one.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And Kwan Bolden Walter Julips scout was like he did,

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<v Speaker 7>that's exactly. Walter stood up and said, you mfors can

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<v Speaker 7>put him anywhere you want. He goes, he is going

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<v Speaker 7>to play in this league for a long time, and

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<v Speaker 7>he just closed his notebook and sat there and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>they put we put him up on the board, and

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<v Speaker 7>sure enough he's picked that thing in the second.

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<v Speaker 2>Round and he played one hundred years, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and three, twenty seventeen. There you go, insane,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go.

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<v Speaker 7>And sometimes you get those guys like that, and you

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<v Speaker 7>have that conviction of this guy could play.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care how fast he runs. YEA.

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<v Speaker 7>The tape that we all watch and that's ourly, that's

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<v Speaker 7>our group's only advantage. I mean, that's our only advantages.

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<v Speaker 7>We get to watch tape and then maybe an occasional workout.

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<v Speaker 7>But that's what you go off of. And I think

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<v Speaker 7>to me, your board is pure that way when you

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<v Speaker 7>just evaluate the tape. I mean, I had a scout

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<v Speaker 7>in the league tell me, he goes, do me a

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<v Speaker 7>favor when you're done some of your board and I go,

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<v Speaker 7>why do you want my board? And he goes, Because

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<v Speaker 7>you're just watching tape. You're not worried about all the

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<v Speaker 7>things that I'm going in and getting from the school.

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<v Speaker 7>You're you know, I hear this, I hear this, I

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<v Speaker 7>see this, I hear You're just watching tape. That's generally

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<v Speaker 7>who these people are when you watch this tape.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really interesting, it really is, because those guys have

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<v Speaker 2>so many different factors.

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<v Speaker 7>They have too many, too many clutter them up. And

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<v Speaker 7>we were just talking about it opening here. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>all of a sudden you get these you start to

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<v Speaker 7>you put a guy on a board, and all of

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<v Speaker 7>a sudden you have this wait looks smart on tape,

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<v Speaker 7>but okay, and then you talk to him and you're

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<v Speaker 7>like going, wait a minute. He doesn't understand concepts here.

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<v Speaker 7>And that effects if a coach doesn't feel like they

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<v Speaker 7>can get to a guy, that he's going to make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 7>We saw that with this team last year with a Dogay,

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<v Speaker 7>when you can't make when you can't make blocks or

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<v Speaker 7>you can't get things lined up the right.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, they won't play you. That part of it is

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<v Speaker 3>a big factor.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're gonna have to make some replacements to in

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that they lost based off of some of

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<v Speaker 2>those decisions that were made in free agency and the

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<v Speaker 2>way they let them walk.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a little bit of a game here.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take about ten minutes on this, but I've got

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<v Speaker 2>six names that have departed.

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<v Speaker 3>From the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to tell me the most likely draft

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<v Speaker 2>prospect to replace these names.

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<v Speaker 3>And this could be your own opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>We could come to a conclusion if we want as

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<v Speaker 2>a group, but more likely, I want names that can

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<v Speaker 2>be realistic replaces for each of these guys that have

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<v Speaker 2>departed the Dallas Cowboys in free agency, because frankly, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them and a lot of them that

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<v Speaker 2>wire impact players.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna start on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get it out of the way because this

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<v Speaker 2>is probably the most likely Day one, Day two picks.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll start at offensive tackle. Tyron Smith departs Zach Waltschek.

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<v Speaker 3>Who do you feel like is the most likely offensive

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<v Speaker 3>tackle replacement? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 10>I kind of think as we've gotten closer to this

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<v Speaker 10>at twenty four, if they do address that in the

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<v Speaker 10>first round, I think Geyiton from Oklahoma seems like the

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<v Speaker 10>most likely candidate. I mean, I would love me some

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<v Speaker 10>Jordan Morgan out of Arizona. I've got him great at

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<v Speaker 10>higher I do wonder because I think we heard this

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<v Speaker 10>with the Cowboys when it came to Rashaun Slater, that

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<v Speaker 10>they viewed him as a guard and not as a tackle.

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<v Speaker 10>And maybe it was the short arms. And I wonder

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<v Speaker 10>because Morgan is similar in that regard, if they would

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<v Speaker 10>take him and say, all right, we feel comfortable playing

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<v Speaker 10>you at left tackle. I think Morgan is a better

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<v Speaker 10>player on tape. I think Geiton is raw that are talented.

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<v Speaker 10>He's big, he's got long arms. He can get to

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<v Speaker 10>the second level. For those that maybe we have talked

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<v Speaker 10>about him quite a bit, but transfer from TCU, played

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<v Speaker 10>at Oklahoma this past year. I think he can play

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<v Speaker 10>left or right side. He's got some versatility on that regard.

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<v Speaker 10>Six ' seven, he's got room to fill out. I

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<v Speaker 10>think the technique can be a little bit sloppy. He

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<v Speaker 10>can get overpowered at times. But at twenty four and

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<v Speaker 10>we've seen if the Cowboys say all right, like with

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<v Speaker 10>Tyler Smith, who a lot of people thought was a project,

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<v Speaker 10>but they see traits that they like that they can

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<v Speaker 10>bold Geiton kind of fits that a little bit for me.

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<v Speaker 10>I wonder if at twenty four, if he's the best

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<v Speaker 10>offensive tackle there. To me, right now, he seems like

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<v Speaker 10>the most likely replacement.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm torn.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm torn on whether they're going to and we kind

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<v Speaker 9>of talked about it before the show started, if they're

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<v Speaker 9>gonna move Tyler back to tackle and then just go

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<v Speaker 9>get a guard. Maybe not in the first round, maybe

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<v Speaker 9>in the second or third round.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you think they need to get a guard, because

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<v Speaker 10>I think I feel TJ. Bass can be a plug

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<v Speaker 10>and play left guard. I'd rather just address center and

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<v Speaker 10>then we can just go for depth pieces behind that.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree.

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<v Speaker 9>I struggle with that because personally, I just think, uh,

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<v Speaker 9>the depth is just it's invaluable to question and I

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<v Speaker 9>and I and again, I do think he's capable of

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<v Speaker 9>being a starter. I don't mean I want to be

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<v Speaker 9>one right now unless he just outright earns it, which

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<v Speaker 9>is he could. But I that's the thing that tears me.

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<v Speaker 9>Do you think that Guidan could play guard?

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<v Speaker 10>No? I think Morgan Morgan play guard. Guid and I

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<v Speaker 10>think needs to probably stay at tackle. I don't see

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<v Speaker 10>the bend there like you do. For Morgan. I think

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<v Speaker 10>he's a little too stiff in the lower body to

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<v Speaker 10>kick inside.

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<v Speaker 6>So you guys are comfortable with a rookie left tackle, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Just because just because of their history, the history here

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<v Speaker 7>of this organization, first round offensive tackles have been plug

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<v Speaker 7>and play. That that is, that is something that you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you can fault him for some things, but everyone that

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<v Speaker 7>they've ever addressed is a first round offensive lineman. Seems

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<v Speaker 7>to have worked out for them. And now, but we

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<v Speaker 7>saw a poor draft last year. We've always talked about

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<v Speaker 7>them about being a great drafting team. You hope you

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<v Speaker 7>hope that this is not one of those times that

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<v Speaker 7>all of a sudden that that doesn't hold true.

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<v Speaker 9>I struggle with that too though, because I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 9>there's other skill players that are there.

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<v Speaker 6>If there's other.

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<v Speaker 9>Players there, you know, bitting on the fact, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 9>if I get a first round talent, then yeah, I

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<v Speaker 9>mean great.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, I'll tell you what happened though, Ayisha, And

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<v Speaker 7>I think you know this, all these players that went

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<v Speaker 7>out the out the door, they lost their flexibility for

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<v Speaker 7>best available player.

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<v Speaker 6>It hurt.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you now you're now there's two things you need

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<v Speaker 7>to think about in this draft, addressing your needs and

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<v Speaker 7>how can I get a fourth round pick?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's a crappy place to be in.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's where all of a sudden you start to say,

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<v Speaker 7>maybe the level of the tackle that you want to

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<v Speaker 7>take is not there. Maybe all of a sudden, now

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<v Speaker 7>you're saying, well, we've got to grab a center here,

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<v Speaker 7>and there's gonna be somebody on your board when you

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<v Speaker 7>get to twenty four and you're gonna look down and

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<v Speaker 7>you're going, I got this linebacker graded higher. Yep, I've

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<v Speaker 7>got this wide receiver graded higher, and you're gonna and

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<v Speaker 7>you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to I think.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the way that free agency went for this team,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm sure somebody walked down the hall and hit

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<v Speaker 7>me up side the head with a board and say, no, no,

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<v Speaker 7>you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love for that to happen within the next

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<v Speaker 3>forty minutes. Yeah, you can get it on camera. But

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<v Speaker 3>see that's what I'm saying, though.

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<v Speaker 7>I just feel like they've lost their flexibility for best

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<v Speaker 7>available player.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't take Cede Lamb in this draft, not anymore

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<v Speaker 3>because people go, well, what are you gonna do, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you gonna do a left tackle? What are

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<v Speaker 3>you gonna do at lineback?

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<v Speaker 10>How you end up with a bad draft class though,

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<v Speaker 10>because you're right, I which with you, But you draft

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<v Speaker 10>for need, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>How you end up teaching draft for teams.

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<v Speaker 7>Do draft for need? You draft best available player with

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<v Speaker 7>based on your need. So they're going to hope. And

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<v Speaker 7>that's why I think the Tyler Smith moving to tackle

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<v Speaker 7>spot could be what if the right the correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Tax is not on that board. Sure you don't like Morgan,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe like Martin Johnson.

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<v Speaker 7>I will say this about Guidon Okay, And I learned

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<v Speaker 7>this working in that room with Jerry Jones. If you

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<v Speaker 7>tell him he reminds you of somebody he knows, it

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<v Speaker 7>will make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone in that room is going to say flows l

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<v Speaker 3>Adams to him, Okay. Somebody's going to say a six ' eight.

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<v Speaker 7>No, okay, somebody is yes. Somebody is going to in

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<v Speaker 7>that room, if they know better, is going to mention

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<v Speaker 7>the name Flozell Adams, huge man, athlete, played guard, played tackle.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, he he was the exactly See, That's that's

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<v Speaker 7>what Jerry understands when you tell him, hey, boss, he

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<v Speaker 7>reminds me of this guy, And all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 7>Jerry starts looking over the top of his glasses like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>I see what you're talking about here, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's how you sell guid in to him, I believe.

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<v Speaker 7>But the flexibility of taking Aisha's best wide receiver or

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<v Speaker 7>best corner off that board. Now corner, maybe maybe you

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<v Speaker 7>could take the best corner and you'd be okay, But

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<v Speaker 7>you take a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>What if that tight end got to you? You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>There's if is there? Are you taking him?

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<v Speaker 7>That's I'm saying you need to And I talked about kill.

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<v Speaker 10>You for that one because because Brian, you've taught me,

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<v Speaker 10>don't window dress that board right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So like in the situation going into the to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that you can view it like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think my view of team building.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't tell them they're going You don't think they're going

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<v Speaker 7>to stack their board with all their needs in the

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<v Speaker 7>top of that board and your window.

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<v Speaker 3>Dress on your board.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, they have to, they have no choice. They got

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<v Speaker 7>to make sure that they get the guys that they want.

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<v Speaker 10>But they are a football team where they're only way

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<v Speaker 10>of team building right now, and they can disagree and

0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.800
<v Speaker 10>that's totally fine. But what they've proven over the last

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<v Speaker 10>few years is we are building through the draft. Your

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<v Speaker 10>same needs that you have right now aren't your same

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<v Speaker 10>needs you're gonna have next year. And where you're drafting,

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<v Speaker 10>you aren't drafting for this year, you're drafting for four

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<v Speaker 10>you're drafting for five years now. When they took Ceedee Lamb,

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<v Speaker 10>was he a need pick? No, he ends up being

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<v Speaker 10>one of their best picks of the last decade. And

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<v Speaker 10>where would you be without him right now? So if

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<v Speaker 10>I take light too, Law too, and he's the best

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<v Speaker 10>player on my board, and yes, I'm desperate for a center,

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<v Speaker 10>Yes I'm desperate for a tackle.

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<v Speaker 3>Four years from now, are you.

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<v Speaker 10>Going to look back if law two hits and say, damn,

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<v Speaker 10>that was a bad pick we really should have taken.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably No.

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<v Speaker 10>And that's how good teams draft, and that's why this

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<v Speaker 10>team's been a good drafting team. You get in trouble

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<v Speaker 10>when you take a Mazzie Smith, Sure who doesn't pan out,

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<v Speaker 10>and maybe he still will.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not losing out just an.

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<v Speaker 10>Example right now, but because oh, we really need to

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<v Speaker 10>help our run game, we really need a big defensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 10>That's how teams end up taking the wrong players because

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<v Speaker 10>they go ahead and draft for need and they don't

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<v Speaker 10>take the player that they grated the best. I agree

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<v Speaker 10>with you, and I think if you take a player

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<v Speaker 10>like that in a position like that, then you're good.

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<v Speaker 3>You take the best player on your board.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably gonna end up being one of the better

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<v Speaker 2>players because you evaluate them, you trust them in whatever

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<v Speaker 2>that ends up being.

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<v Speaker 3>But the one thing you said in that whole monologue

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<v Speaker 3>is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact you said desperate. They are desperate in a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of spots. Whenever CD Lamb was taken, they weren't desperate

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<v Speaker 2>in a couple of spots. There were some spots sure

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<v Speaker 2>that it was probably a bigger need than wide receiver

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<v Speaker 2>they should have used at edge.

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<v Speaker 3>Desperate for an edge. They were desperate. I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 3>desperate though, because they still had Tank Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 2>They still had some pieces that they had already invested in,

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<v Speaker 2>like a Dorn's arms.

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<v Speaker 10>You don't think there's a scout in that room that'll

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<v Speaker 10>say like, oh, we got TJ. Batch, we got brought

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<v Speaker 10>Coff and we can line up and play if we

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<v Speaker 10>had you.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we desperate?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, So we're so desperate we're gonna read one and

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not gonna take a one.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're just it's a bad strategy.

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<v Speaker 4>That's where you move back though. That's that's where you

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<v Speaker 4>have the flexibility of picking up that force.

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<v Speaker 3>We can we can go ahead and move back. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>okay with moving back. Can we can trade back.

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<v Speaker 4>My question though, is when you're drafting you say you're

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<v Speaker 4>you're against drafting for need. Let's say you are drafting

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<v Speaker 4>for need. You need to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to have trust in your scouting depart I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think it'd be hard pressed to find another organization

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<v Speaker 4>that trusts for scouting department.

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<v Speaker 3>More a lot of pressure usually coming after more pressure

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<v Speaker 3>on them.

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<v Speaker 10>If you're going to overdraft a player, when those scouts said, hey,

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<v Speaker 10>this guy's clearly better, and now we're going to go

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<v Speaker 10>ahead and take X for need and pass on a

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<v Speaker 10>guy that we have evaluated.

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<v Speaker 7>They're not going to jumps. They're going to make sure

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<v Speaker 7>all those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Are in luck there. Yeah, and I'm not against drafting

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<v Speaker 3>for need.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm just against doing it when we clearly have a

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<v Speaker 10>better player that is there that is slid just for

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<v Speaker 10>the sake of drafting a need pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you be overdrafting Jordan Morgan, Tyler, Guidon, Amarius.

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<v Speaker 10>Mems who else? I mean, that's it really just depends

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<v Speaker 10>on who else would be sitting there.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, they just don't have the luxury, to me, with

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<v Speaker 9>how the draft went last year, to not be aggressive

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<v Speaker 9>and to not you need contribution from your top three

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<v Speaker 9>picks at the very least immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't get a contribution from an edge if you drafted.

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<v Speaker 6>You would, That's what I'm a I'm agreeing with you.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm agreeing with you, right, I know, I'm like Lord Mersey,

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<v Speaker 9>I ain't have to get you. I feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 9>I think they have put themselves in a bad situation.

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<v Speaker 9>But a lot of it has to do with the

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<v Speaker 9>lack of contribution from your draft picks last year and

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<v Speaker 9>not knowing what they're going to be because quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 9>we're talking about tackle.

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<v Speaker 6>We have no idea what awesome Richards is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the problem, no idea.

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<v Speaker 9>But maybe they do and maybe that maybe that may

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<v Speaker 9>play into Connor what you were talking about with t J.

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<v Speaker 9>Bis and brock Kaufman. They might be like, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 9>we can't get a receiver here because they do have

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<v Speaker 9>faith in what Awesome has.

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<v Speaker 6>We just don't have that right now.

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<v Speaker 7>I agree with you to a point, and the point

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<v Speaker 7>I would think I would feel a lot better if

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<v Speaker 7>I knew what Awesome Richards was instead of Tuma Adoka

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<v Speaker 7>playing tackle. I agree, But I and I know, and

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<v Speaker 7>I know what Matt Let's go is. He's got his

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<v Speaker 7>he's got his shoulders getting fixed. Okay, I think Matt

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<v Speaker 7>well Let's go is a tough guy and all that.

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<v Speaker 7>He just hadn't play. But I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 7>could tell me what they know about Awesome Richards, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe, like I say, you're right, maybe they've got

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<v Speaker 3>it all squared up.

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<v Speaker 7>I wish they would have played Awesome Richards then, and

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<v Speaker 7>that way I would have feel better about I do

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<v Speaker 7>know I've seen their left guard play at a high

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<v Speaker 7>level at left tackle.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that i'd seen that one with my own eyes.

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<v Speaker 9>Are you in the mindset though, I'm in the mindset

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<v Speaker 9>of wherever they put him this year?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you. I think they can move them one

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<v Speaker 3>more time and then you're you're done. I'm over. You're

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<v Speaker 3>staying stay put.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not even me, and I'm over it, not even me.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get to the rest of these positions

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<v Speaker 3>That debate we had. I thought it was an It

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<v Speaker 3>was a very fun conversation. Well, I'm gonna start with

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<v Speaker 3>you on this one. Aha. Tyler Biais has gone at center.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the most likely draft prospect to replace him?

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<v Speaker 6>If they're picking in the early rounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Wherever you feel like the value fits best.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you guys have a first one?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a third.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I had fourth.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you believe. I believe.

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<v Speaker 9>I believe that they would like his temperament, and I

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<v Speaker 9>do believe that they also would if they didn't pick

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<v Speaker 9>a center.

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't see them picking a center in.

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<v Speaker 3>The first round.

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<v Speaker 6>Feel that in my spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think I think he's I think he's a

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<v Speaker 9>respected player. I think people know who he is and

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<v Speaker 9>things like that. He still can use some polish, I think,

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<v Speaker 9>and I think this team has started to kind of

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<v Speaker 9>like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like they have drafted guys. It's really hard

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<v Speaker 6>not to look at this last draft with the draft

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<v Speaker 6>before that.

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<v Speaker 9>You do see that they like some guys that have

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<v Speaker 9>a little bit of rawness to them that they can

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<v Speaker 9>maybe polish. I think that set of being praying as

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<v Speaker 9>a gentleman that they could take and maybe the third

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<v Speaker 9>round if they had that option, to clear up that

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<v Speaker 9>center position. Is there any guy in the later rounds

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<v Speaker 9>that's a center that you guys are interested?

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<v Speaker 4>I started to talk about Bordalini, although I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>he's creeping in the Day two territory for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I throw out Mason mccormicks out to coach. Yeah,

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I put very athletic that spoiler alert.

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he's a guard. Yeah, I think he's

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 3>a guard.

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>But if you're talking about filling some spots, yeah, maybe

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>move TJ.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Bass inside or.

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 4>Nat Lee out of Miami. Has a little dog to him.

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 4>He's raw, but he's got some dogs at the shroom ball.

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're talking dog. So I gotta give bou limmerg

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 3>just a little bit of the.

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 6>Fourth round, like opposite, we talked about this the other week.

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 9>If they don't pick in the third round, I think

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 9>Bo's a guy that maybe might be there the fourth.

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean if you pick up that.

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 9>Fourth, Yeah, if you pick up that fourth, fourth, I

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 9>think he's he's doing himself too much justice with how

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 9>he's performed as of late. I think that he's doing

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 9>he's getting more traction bo is in my opinion, because

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 9>at first I would have been like, oh, maybe he's

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 9>like a fifth and some people's eyes early fifth, late fourth.

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 9>But the way that he's played, and it's just his

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 9>attitude and the way he can wrestle in there, like that's.

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 6>What people are looking for.

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Just doesn't quit man, what you got.

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 4>I want to continue to bang the table for Christian

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Hands as a potential center option.

0:30:58.440 --> 0:30:59.959
<v Speaker 3>I do love that option too.

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 4>If he's there, If he's sitting there in eighty seven,

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 4>you take that, Yeah, I would to you take him

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 4>to I think he I think he comes off in

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 4>the second round there. Yeah, I think he comes off

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 4>late second. But I think once you start getting past

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 4>pick fifty to fifty five, especially with this offensive line class,

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 4>that's gonna be really fluid, and I think it's gonna

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.959
<v Speaker 4>it's there's a lot of shaking around that could happen there.

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 4>I think there's some guys that might might go later

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 4>than they were expected, or guys that'll go earlier than

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 4>they may maybe would have expected.

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Christian Hanes a center though, Yeah, I think he can

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 3>play center guard forty nine straight games a guard. Yeah.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 3>I saw him play center at a Senior Bowl. I

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 3>loved what I saw. A smart player, yes.

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 4>Really smart player IQ pre snap tendencies and he was

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 4>calling out stuff pre snap for Yukon. So yeah, that's

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 4>a that's a guy I would want in the in

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 4>the middle.

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 9>Okay, I have another gentleman. Have you guys watched Gear Greenfield,

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 9>South Dakota. Yes, okay, that he's a guard. I don't

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 9>think he's I don't think I don't I'm not sure

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 9>if he can move to center, but he is a

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 9>guard that I think maybe somebody.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 6>Might think about possibly he could play some center.

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 9>Just because of how he finishes and how he bounces

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 9>off the line.

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 6>He's a four year starter. He's just so tall and

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm very tall. He's very tall, very lengthy.

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 9>I don't know if you want that for a center,

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 9>but I do think he's a guy that is gonna

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 9>fall maybe be in the later rounds that people might

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 9>look at.

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 4>So there's so many fun so talented.

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 9>They're talented and their their technique is very sound as well.

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 9>But yeah, all right, so you covered a million centers.

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 9>But said to brand is a gentleman that I think

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 9>might be down He's.

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 3>A nasty guy, too tough. I'll tell you what.

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 7>And I I love what I just did there because

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 7>to me with you know people not maybe you're gonna

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 7>down play him a little bit because he's two hundred.

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Ninety eight pounds right now for that, but you know,

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 3>he's a stout guy.

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 7>He had a little bit more trouble with the power

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 7>in the Tennessee game than the Kentucky game that I watched.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 7>But man, I'll tell you what, though he's got some

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 7>his nastiness is impressive.

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I.

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 7>Think because when he keeps his feet moving, he he

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 7>could be hard to deal with because he can position,

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 7>he can kind of wall you off.

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 3>He could keep you from the ball.

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 7>But that's that's where in space, I think he's a

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 7>nightmared for these defenders to deal with because he gets

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 7>out in space he.

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Could pull second level.

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 7>There's a lot of really positive things about them, as

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 7>as a said, But the thing is he is two

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 7>hundred and ninety eight pounds right now, so you know,

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 7>we probably need to keep an eye on that.

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 9>I talk myself out of it because I just realized.

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 6>That they need people to play in the third round.

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 9>And if they think Kaufman is going to be a starter,

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 9>are you going to use a third round on a

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 9>center if he's not gonna play it?

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Because I think he's what do you believe? What do

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 3>you do you think, bro I think I don't want

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 3>to know what they think. I want to know what

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 3>you think.

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you think brock Hoffman would be better starting or

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 2>do you think Cedric Van Pram would be.

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 3>A better starter.

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 9>I think he's capable of starting. I just we haven't

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 9>seen a whole bunch from him. I like what I

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 9>saw from him in a few games that he did

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 9>play though, just the fire and the ball. I thought

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 9>he and TJ. Bass worked really well together. And I

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 9>think your interior has to have that temperament like and

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 9>it can't be for play play either.

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 2>It can't be like I lost, absolutely.

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 9>Not and even be hodish like I felt like he

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 9>had the attitude but it didn show.

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 6>Up in his play all the time.

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 3>That's a good point.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 9>So baby, if you're talking, you better be firing off

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 9>that ball the same way you talking.

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 6>So for me, I think that it has to match.

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 9>And with Hoffman, I feel like his talk and how

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 9>he is attitudely matches what we've seen for him the

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.879
<v Speaker 9>times we've seen him play. I think he's people respect.

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 6>Him in the locker room for what I understand. I

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 6>think he's capable.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 9>But if you can't get better there, I think it

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 9>just depends on if you.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 3>You brought up you brought up Van Prant, give me

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 3>him all day over?

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I agree, Yeah, We've talked about these sinners and

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 7>all that.

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.240
<v Speaker 3>I think there's an opportunity here to upgrade.

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 7>I think this is one of this classes of sinners

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 7>where we named off five guys and I felt like like.

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 3>Every one of them. When you name the guy, I said, yeah,

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 3>and if.

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 6>Is a really good backup, you're blessed.

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And I'm sorry about death. You sorry about depth position?

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I haven't.

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Well real quickly in this entire conversation, I'm kind of shocked.

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 3>I didn't hear any Graham Barton talk out of Duke Well.

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 6>I didn't think he oh well.

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, four. Do you think he got in there?

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 3>That's my that is my dream selection.

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 6>You think he's going to be there.

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 10>That's why to take Graham Barton at twenty four out of.

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Due Graham Barton would be outstanding there.

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 7>To me, if you traded back to Buffalo at twenty eight,

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 7>Baltimore at thirty picked up the late third round pick,

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 7>remember we talked about that before Day three starts.

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm looking at.

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 10>Fraser Frasers, Well, yeah, I mean either way, just landing

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:44.280
<v Speaker 10>a tackle.

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 7>If you can tell me a tackle you could trade

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 7>back for, or a sinner you could trade back for.

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean exacting.

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm a Frasier.

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 7>Give me four picks inside the top one hundred yep,

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 7>and I'm playing.

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm fixing this football team.

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 4>Sounds good to Yeah, and another guy to keep an

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 4>eye on it. We haven't really talked about him as

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 4>much when we talk about this tackle class. I feel

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 4>like he kind of gets lost in the shuff a

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 4>little bit, just because he's comfortably a second round grade,

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 4>but a potential trade back option that you're looking at

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 4>in that thirty to thirty five range. Let's say they

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 4>end up in there. Kingsley Sue Sue Taya out of

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 4>a b YU. He's got the guard flex, so you

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 4>can bring him in and see if he works better

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 4>at left guard or left tackle. You're able to work

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 4>him out with Tyler Smith in that instance. He's a

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 4>transfer from Morgan. He was a highly touted recruit, played

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 4>a couple of years there at b YU and was

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 4>really strong, first team All Big twelve. I like Kingsley.

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 4>I think you would be too.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 3>I think you're right all right.

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Linebacker Nick Harris, So.

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm what what linebacker role are we trying to?

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Wait?

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 4>Fil got Eric Kendrick. So'm I'm gonna give you.

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Give me a true Mike linebacker, a true mic Yes, Okay,

0:36:58.960 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>then I'm giving you Junior Coles.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, ten times out of ten.

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Second round. Don't look at that, don't look at the helmet.

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:06.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah at all at all. Yeah, I'm taking

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Junior Colson if he's there.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Fifty six out of your last four first or second

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 2>round picks have come from the University of Michigan. That yeah,

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 2>wa to say they've got a ring, not at all.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Junior Colson probably a Day two option, a Day

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 4>three option that I've I'm starting to love a little

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 4>bit more the more I I look into him. Is

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 4>a Jordan McGee out of Temple. That's another one that

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 4>I like. That was a formal meeting at the combine.

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 4>Trevin Wallace. We mentioned him a few times.

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Out of Wallace, I just watched him. I saw Kentucky, right, Yes,

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 3>somebody talked to me about him. Yeah. Where's the third,

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 3>fourth round? Where is he?

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 4>We're probably looking at a fifth fifth, probably just because

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:56.280
<v Speaker 4>he's five eleven. There's probably a little bit a size

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 4>concerns there, especially when you're looking at it from Cowboys perspective,

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 4>you feel like you really need big body linebacker.

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 3>That's why he's a little shorter.

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 4>He's a little shorter so I but I think he's

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 4>athletic freak.

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 3>He's high instincts.

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:11.800
<v Speaker 4>He's he's going to be a thirty visit. That was

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 4>reported by Nicole Hutcheson, So you know that's a guy

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 4>that they're looking at pretty closely too.

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 3>He shed's blocks well.

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 10>I think he does a good job and navigating around

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 10>the trash, can drop back and coverage, can play man zone.

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.800
<v Speaker 10>I think he's really good at filling holes in the

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 10>running game. Like he plays with his the instincts and

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 10>his eye awareness very very strong. I mean in high

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 10>school he was a dude that played all over the field,

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 10>even returned kicks, stay weightlifting champs, set the school record

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 10>for long jump. He's kind of just a freak athlete

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 10>type dude. I absolutely love him. I will say, you

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 10>want a true Mike. And maybe it's just because he

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.399
<v Speaker 10>was hurt, so he's not getting a ton of love

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 10>and I know the athleticism is not there. But Tommy

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 10>Eikenberg from Ohio State, Yeah, like in the fourth round,

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 10>I would just say, you know.

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 3>What, has he slipped that far?

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 10>Well, he just a guy that I don't think is

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 10>getting a whole lot of.

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Conversations because he's just a guy. He's a jack, you know.

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think there's a And I'm not going.

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 10>To argue that because I mean at the athletic traits

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 10>there and I put that in my notes, like there's

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 10>nothing special with the speed, but he makes plays.

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 9>And that's unfortunate too, because I think a lot of

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 9>that has to do with how he's built and just

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 9>kind of how he looks.

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 6>But even when you.

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 9>Looked at like a Jack Campbell last year who has

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<v Speaker 9>that kind of bulk build and things like that, he

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<v Speaker 9>still had more coverage ability. To me, he still was

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 9>a more fluid mover and things like that. We got

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<v Speaker 9>to see it this year. So to your point, I

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<v Speaker 9>don't know, I don't know. If I don't know, if

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<v Speaker 9>I would take I canberg.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't even know, because I feel like, what is

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<v Speaker 9>he even going to give you on special teams with

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<v Speaker 9>his lack of movement, because you know, these young guys

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 9>are gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to play that guy he'll run down and cover.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a part Okay, well, okay, then correct me then.

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<v Speaker 9>But that's a part of it that I do think

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<v Speaker 9>is important is to also realize they've lost pieces on

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 9>special teams too, and I felt like they took a

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.359
<v Speaker 9>step back last year and coverage and things like that.

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<v Speaker 9>So some of these guys that we're talking about that

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 9>are like, Okay, well are we gonna are these guys,

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<v Speaker 9>these linebackers, the guys gonna come in and play early.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm like, yeah, maybe they need to be able to

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<v Speaker 9>run down to If.

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<v Speaker 7>You're gonna take Jack Campbell from Iowa from last year,

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<v Speaker 7>take Peyton Wilson from North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 9>State, you think so, yeah, I mean yeah, because he

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<v Speaker 9>is Jack had injuries to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about the but I'm just saying the

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:34.720
<v Speaker 2>same kind of players.

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<v Speaker 7>You what a player that can play downhill, could cover

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 7>fill gaps.

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<v Speaker 3>That's mean to me. I'm getting to the point now

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 3>with I'm this is gonna sound terrible. This thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I wonder, with the injury history with Peyton Wilson, if

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:52.360
<v Speaker 7>he is going to be one of those guys that

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 7>you're sitting there in the third round and he's still.

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:56.919
<v Speaker 4>There and you're wondering why he's still there.

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 3>You know why?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I guarantee you there's gonna come down to

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.720
<v Speaker 7>we're getting close to Dallas's pick there in the third round,

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.359
<v Speaker 7>and Peyton Wilson be on the board, and we're all

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 7>gonna look at each other and go, do we have

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 7>the guts to do this?

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 3>Right now?

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 6>Somebody's gonna take a chance on him.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, you're the one that's pushing the button.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're the one that kid is, you want to

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 7>you want a linebacker that plays with his hair on fire.

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 7>Got is Peyton Wilson, and he's got nothing probably left

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 7>in his knees.

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<v Speaker 10>He's the best linebacker in the draft, the first off

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<v Speaker 10>the ballard.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>If we would all say that he's we would all

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<v Speaker 7>say the third round that he's the best player.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not speaking for you, I'm speaking for

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 3>myself here. I agree with you. You can talk for

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<v Speaker 3>me on that.

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<v Speaker 7>But I mean, this guy is so complete in the

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<v Speaker 7>way he plays, and all of a sudden, Dallas has

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<v Speaker 7>a history of doing this, and it kills me because

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 7>they get four or five years, six years out of

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 7>a guy.

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 3>And we saw it yesterday Leyton.

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<v Speaker 7>Vanderish, you know, and he had an injury history coming

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 7>out of Bois, you know, and it caught up. We've

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 7>had it happen several Cowboy players, linebackers. But you know what,

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:08.879
<v Speaker 7>in the third round, if I wanted to go get

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<v Speaker 7>a linebacker that was still sitting there of Peyton Wilson's

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 7>still sitting there for North Carolina State, hand that damn

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 7>card in.

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<v Speaker 2>Please I'm too Yeah, all right, I want to take

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<v Speaker 2>our second break.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come back. We haven't talked a lot about

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<v Speaker 3>the cornerback class. We haven't talked about some of these dbs.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to do a positional spotlight with that. Who

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<v Speaker 3>stands out?

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<v Speaker 2>Where is the value any late risers among this cornerback class?

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to take a deep dive into the cornerback spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Who stands out to you? Are there any names that

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<v Speaker 2>we should keep an eye on?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, y'all, you know you can't say a Michigan player's

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<v Speaker 9>name without people getting upset.

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<v Speaker 6>But okay, Mike Sanders still got it.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, cool quarterback cornerback Michigan. I watched him last night

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<v Speaker 9>and we were talking about it even on the break.

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<v Speaker 9>This is this might be the best nickel corner in

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<v Speaker 9>this draft. He's so, he's he's It's interesting how he's

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<v Speaker 9>able to stay square and bend. He's not the biggest,

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 9>but he comes downhill and he plays big, very right.

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<v Speaker 6>He's little nuts, very willing tackler.

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<v Speaker 9>This gentleman started as a receiver, and I think you

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<v Speaker 9>can see that in some of how he plays his keys.

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<v Speaker 6>And he has versatility.

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<v Speaker 9>I think he can play in multiple UH defensive coverages.

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<v Speaker 9>I think he can do more. I don't know about

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 9>the functional play strength just now. But I know he

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.359
<v Speaker 9>has a good feel. I think he's a fit. I

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<v Speaker 9>know he can play man, but I think he could

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 9>grow there. And obviously converted from wide receiver, it is

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 9>gonna take him some time to get a little bit

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<v Speaker 9>more feel for that. The short area of quickness is there,

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<v Speaker 9>the burst and then acceleration to make plays, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>on the ball, to play recognition. If you listen to

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<v Speaker 9>some of the guys from even talking about the Senior Bowl,

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.759
<v Speaker 9>they were saying that he was calling out plays as

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 9>they were getting into them. So the IQ's high with

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<v Speaker 9>this gentleman also too, I think his transitions are things

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 9>he can still work on. Again, this is still a

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 9>somewhat raw player, but he just doesn't play that way.

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 9>He plays with patience. He's exciting also too when you

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 9>watch him. He bounces off the tape to you. So

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 9>and again we talked about him playing nickel. I do

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<v Speaker 9>think he has shown the ability to be able to

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<v Speaker 9>track the ball and to not panic downfield when he

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 9>is attacked downfield. But I think this gentleman could thrive

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:55.720
<v Speaker 9>as a nickel corner and really really make it difficult

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 9>on some of these receivers because he plays with he

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<v Speaker 9>gets his depth, he gets his leverage.

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<v Speaker 6>He's just smart.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, he's happy.

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:06.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a lot of he has upside and that's.

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<v Speaker 9>Exciting because when you watch him, you're already like, dang,

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 9>this do can play. But the fact that he has

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 9>upside in room to grow makes him very intriguing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's probably where the biggest concerns do lie. But

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned him starting his career a Michigan as receiver,

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<v Speaker 4>and typically when we talk about guys that start the

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<v Speaker 4>careers as receivers in college, there's a it's like okay, yeah,

0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, that's what he was recruited as, but he

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't really find his placement on the depth chart. Hey,

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 4>let's try you on defense. Oh, you're really working there.

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<v Speaker 4>That wasn't the case with Sanders Stiell. He was productive

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<v Speaker 4>as a slot receiver for the Wolverines in his first

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<v Speaker 4>two years. They move him to the defensive side, and

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<v Speaker 4>he brings a receiver's knowledge to that defensive side because

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 4>he's able to anticipate certain route concepts. He's really good

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<v Speaker 4>as a nickel because he there's so much that you

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<v Speaker 4>have to account for right there in the middle of

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 4>the field as a nickel, and he knows what those

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 4>receivers are trying to do. He brings a wealth of knowledge.

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<v Speaker 4>There had a pretty good combine two four four seven

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<v Speaker 4>forty forty inch vert ten eleven on the broad. I

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<v Speaker 4>love Sandra still really.

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<v Speaker 3>Do what you got. That guy nailed both of you guys.

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Great job on that.

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<v Speaker 7>This guy is for old school people. This is Ronde

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 7>Barber from the old Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Because this guy

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 7>will blitz off the corner. You put him in the slot,

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 7>he will hammer your ass, you know, and he has

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 7>a timing. He has a sense of how to make

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 7>it work. He plays very aware. He's you know, when

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 7>you watch him, he's always going to put himself in position.

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:25.239
<v Speaker 7>I'd like to see him get his head around a

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 7>little bit quicker sometimes. I think that, you know, early

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 7>this season that was a little bit prompt. Towards the

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 7>end of the season, you saw some improvement there. But

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 7>there's some quick feet to him. There's some smoothness in

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 7>the way he plays. I love the way he plays

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 7>in the slot. I think that's his best spot in

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 7>the NFL. He is an outstanding blitzer and if anybody

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 7>knows about Rhndi Barber from the old Tampa days. You

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:45.959
<v Speaker 7>put him in the slot and then Nickel you blitz

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:47.880
<v Speaker 7>him and he was always coming up with a turnover.

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 7>This guy's similar type of player that way.

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to give you a guy that I'm really

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 4>starting to pay attention to that I think is going

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 4>to be getting a lot of love here late in

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 4>the process. Elijah Jones out of Boston College, six foot

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 4>one and a half one hundred and eighty five pounds,

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 4>more of a slender frame, but he blew the combine

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 4>away with a four four four forty forty two and

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 4>a half ver ten eleven on the broad and he

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 4>was He turned a lot of heads after Indianapolis went

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 4>back and watched him a little bit more. I got

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:14.439
<v Speaker 4>to talk to him a little bit in Nindy two.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a smart, smart player and he plays with

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<v Speaker 4>it on the outside. He's he doesn't do anything spectacular,

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 4>but he does everything good. And I really love what

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 4>I saw from Elijah Jones. I think he's a guy

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 4>that's going to be valued more and more as this

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 4>process goes on. He's he's a guy that a team

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:32.840
<v Speaker 4>would love to have at the boundary.

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 2>First word I saw on his report instincts. I haven't

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 2>watched him yet, so I'm just looking at online. But Zerline,

0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 2>who does a great job on NFL dot Com, says instincts,

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 2>that's the first thing you pop up. So when you

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 2>say he's a smart player, that's something there. You compare

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.839
<v Speaker 2>that his things with athleticism. I'm writing him down right now.

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go back and watch him tonight.

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Zach, who you.

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 10>Got, man, There's so many different corners you could go

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:57.800
<v Speaker 10>with here, Andrew Phillips comes to mind. I'm gonna go

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 10>with Kyrie Jackson Oregon. Yeah, he's a little bit different

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 10>to some of these dudes we're talking about.

0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Six four.

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.359
<v Speaker 10>You mentioned blitzing and I immediately thought Kyrie Jackson led

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 10>Oregon with three picks last year.

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Ten.

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and he is an alpha, like he's an alpha

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:17.720
<v Speaker 10>that secondary transfer from Alabama, where he spent his sophomore

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 10>in junior seasons. Played a lot of special teams there

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 10>with the Tidies, big long, tall, boundary corner, really good Blitzer,

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 10>willing to come up set the edge in the running game,

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 10>can play press zone. I think he passes off coverages

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 10>really well, moves and flips his hips. He's got fluidity

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.439
<v Speaker 10>there for its size. Really good athlete. He can get

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:39.399
<v Speaker 10>beat off the line in press when he doesn't get

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 10>a jam or his feet are just a little bit

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 10>slow to get turned around. I thought Jalen Polk gave

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 10>him a bit of an issue there when he gave

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 10>Polk a free release. He beats him for a touchdown

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 10>in the game that I watched him play against Washington.

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:52.799
<v Speaker 10>But overall, he does a good job of mirroring receivers downfield,

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.280
<v Speaker 10>and he really does a good job of disrupting route

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 10>timing because he's so physical with guys, so maybe not

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 10>great long speed, He's a long strider, but I like

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.839
<v Speaker 10>the potential of him and Kyrie Jackson's one of these

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 10>guys the confidence in an issue, plays with a lot

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 10>of swagger. I love his play temperament. He's a fun

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 10>player and certainly really really stands out to you when

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 10>you watch that Oregon defense.

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, reminds me a lot of Nation right when he

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.640
<v Speaker 4>was coming sure, Yeah, especially with the organized Oregon Oregon State.

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.800
<v Speaker 7>Jarvis Brownlee from a Louisville, Yeah, I like him. Is

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:27.359
<v Speaker 7>a five to nine and ninety four pound corner he's

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 7>transferred from Florida State. He played boundary corner. And when

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 7>I say boundary corner to you guys and you hear

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 7>that phrase, it means they put him into the short

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 7>side of the field, so they use the sideline as

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.840
<v Speaker 7>a little bit of some help over there. It plays

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:44.920
<v Speaker 7>that short side, so but they also use him in

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 7>the slot that he's to me, I love the way

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 7>he competes at the position. He's really good when he

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 7>walks up on a receiver and he plays that man coverage.

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:58.279
<v Speaker 7>I think he's best when he's like this, you know what.

0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:01.880
<v Speaker 7>The running aspect him might be a little bit off

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 7>the Notre Dame Senter receiver out on the slot that

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 7>went up and end up being a touchdown on but

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 7>I do feel like he's got the quick feet.

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 3>I think he's got some change of direction.

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:12.319
<v Speaker 7>I think he's more than willing to step up and

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:14.240
<v Speaker 7>that could play on the ball when it comes to tackling.

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 3>He's not afraid to mix it up.

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 7>He's got a good feet to mirror on the outside

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 7>and stay with the receiver in the short and.

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Intermediate route areas. And the instincts I like well.

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 7>And he's got a knack for always being around the

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.400
<v Speaker 7>siver and knocking the ball the way. So Jarvis Brownlee,

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 7>he's a cornerback out of Louisville, is a guy that

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:32.839
<v Speaker 7>I would be like to mention.

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to Florida State, Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:38.839
<v Speaker 4>throw out three names really quick, and then I'm going

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:40.880
<v Speaker 4>to ask y'all a specific question about one of these

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 4>higher ranked guys that I'd love to get y'all's perspective

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 4>on a couple of HBC you guys. I just want

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:47.320
<v Speaker 4>to show some love to Willy Drew out of Virginia State.

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.919
<v Speaker 4>He's been training with Mike Santra's still with the great

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 4>dB trainer Jacory Nichols here in the Dallas area, so

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:55.919
<v Speaker 4>he's he's spent a lot of time in the area.

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Four four to six at the combine for Willie, he's

0:52:58.160 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 4>a guy that's really starting to pick up some steamers.

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.399
<v Speaker 4>HBCU you guys go, and then you're talking about big

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 4>guys at corner Mikey Victor out of Alabama State six

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 4>three two o nine. He brings a lot of size

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 4>to that outside. We talked about Quantes Stiggers about a

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 4>month ago on this show. Just wanted to update the

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:16.359
<v Speaker 4>listeners on kind of where he had. Where he's at

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 4>with his journey man. It sounds more and more every

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 4>day like he's gonna get picked. So he had his

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 4>pro day last week and had a really great showing.

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Twenty nine of the thirty two teams were there. The

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:29.000
<v Speaker 4>Cowboys were one of them. He's got ten thirty visits scheduled,

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 4>so a lot of teams really interested in what he

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 4>has to bring. It just feels like there's more good

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.439
<v Speaker 4>news stacking with him every single day out of.

0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:40.319
<v Speaker 2>The CFL in Toronto. And where did he do his.

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Pro day was his own.

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.240
<v Speaker 4>He did it. He did it at his high school

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 4>that he only had a thirty seven teammates or twenty

0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:48.680
<v Speaker 4>seven teammates at when he was in high school, at

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 4>the Best Academy and Atlanta. He did it right in

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 4>between Georgia and Georgia Tech's pro day, so a lot

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 4>of teams were able to swing through and make it.

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's really working out great scheduling on him today.

0:53:59.239 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to.

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:02.279
<v Speaker 4>Shout out to his agent, Fred Lyles. We've gotten to

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 4>interact with him a little bit. Just we're doing a big.

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Fit tread last year at the Combine.

0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so he's he's he's doing a really good job

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 4>with handling contest stiggers and what he got going on.

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 4>So the question I wanted to ask you about a

0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 4>specific highly ranked corner. I look at Nate Wiggins out

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:21.600
<v Speaker 4>of Clemson. I really love what he brings to the table.

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 4>I think he's physical despite him being extremely slender, And

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 4>that kind of leads into my question here. Came in

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 4>at six seventy three at the Combine. I know the

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:34.200
<v Speaker 4>weight is concerning a lot of people. It's it's kind

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 4>of the same question that you ask with Xavier Worthy.

0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, if he ran a four to two three,

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 4>are we talking about him being one hundred and sixty

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:42.600
<v Speaker 4>five pounds a little bit more? But talking about it

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 4>on the defensive side. Nate Wiggins ran a four to

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 4>two eight, and we're talking a lot about his weight

0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:49.840
<v Speaker 4>coming out of the Combine. Granted he came back to

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 4>Clemson's pro day last week and was one eighty eight,

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:54.279
<v Speaker 4>but how much of that is you know, water weight

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 4>and realizing that you kind of have to weigh in

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.839
<v Speaker 4>at a pretty acceptable number for these scouts that are

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 4>in attendance and plus you're in your own backyard, You're

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 4>able to prep for a little bit better.

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 3>But do you guys worry about.

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Having a slender corner in a league today where you

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 4>need to be a little bit more physical than Finesse.

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 3>We did that last year with.

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 7>Our Mississippi States and he had a little bit of

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:17.279
<v Speaker 7>a rough year, uh, you know, with dealing with that.

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:19.560
<v Speaker 7>And I think over all the Commanders had a rough

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.080
<v Speaker 7>year on defense. And you know, and I'm not putting

0:55:22.120 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 7>it all on the kid. I man, I kind of

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 7>feel like with Wiggins, I kind of feel like he's

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 7>a better zone corner than he is a man corner.

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:32.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you on that, Yeah, I mean, and that's

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 4>his style. I mean, that's why this size has been

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:35.479
<v Speaker 4>able to work.

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Physical.

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:39.799
<v Speaker 7>I've got the kid in the first round and I

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:41.760
<v Speaker 7>and I did it on the tape that I watched.

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.360
<v Speaker 7>And because I do see a guy with loose hips,

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 7>I do see top end speed. I do see him

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 7>getting moved. His socks move faster than everybody else's socks.

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:50.760
<v Speaker 3>On the field.

0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:53.359
<v Speaker 7>You could see that on tape. And you know, but

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 7>I mean he'll break on the ball. I've seen him

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.680
<v Speaker 7>wrap up as a tackler. I mean, the effort was good,

0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:01.839
<v Speaker 7>so I were he refuses to give up on a play,

0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 7>and that's what I really appreciated about the kid. And

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 7>I could see some people because of the way, are

0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 7>gonna are probably gonna ding him a little bit. But

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:12.400
<v Speaker 7>I think he plays fast. I think he plays quick.

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:16.040
<v Speaker 7>I think you're gonna he's gonna have to go to

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:18.879
<v Speaker 7>the right place that kind of understands it. Maybe he's

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:21.000
<v Speaker 7>a little bit better in zone coverage and then the

0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 7>slot stuff than he is playing man.

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:25.839
<v Speaker 6>Also too, I think it's gonna be important with him.

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 9>I mean, because it is kind of crappy that Emanuel

0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 9>Forbes happened last year, and that's just kind of clear yet.

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 9>But I also do think that we talked about it, it

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 9>wasn't just there was a lot of things wrong with

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:39.240
<v Speaker 9>Washington's defense.

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 11>I am.

0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:43.320
<v Speaker 9>I think they will get some coaching, better coaching, especially

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.640
<v Speaker 9>on the secondary side of things. And that's my thing

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 9>is with Wiggins is whoever takes him, if you are

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 9>going to put weight on him, you have to be

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 9>strategic and careful on how you do it. I don't

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:55.800
<v Speaker 9>think you don't want to take away from his speed

0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 9>and to Bryan's point. He still is coming up and

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:02.320
<v Speaker 9>tackling and things like that. It's not like I don't.

0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Know struggles all blocks. It is the only thing with

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 3>that size. But he is willing to come up and tackle.

0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 6>That's fair.

0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 9>So I think it's going to be scheme fit personally,

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 9>and then also to deciding if put in weight on

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 9>him is going to be beneficial or if it's going

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 9>to hurt more, because I think it might hurt more

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.480
<v Speaker 9>because the speed and his anticipation in some of the

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 9>things he's able to do because he's lighter is what

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:26.200
<v Speaker 9>makes him the player that he is.

0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 2>I've got one more name for you to throw out there.

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm want to see if you guys have watched him yet.

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 2>How about Max Melton.

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I really like him a lot, A third round grade

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:41.120
<v Speaker 3>on him. I think he's a twitchy athlete.

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 2>He had a phenomenal combine, ninety nine percent tile on

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 2>the broad jump. He was a four to three nine

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 2>record yes from Rutgers uh ninety four percent tile in

0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the vertical, physical and aggressive despite just being five eleven

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.040
<v Speaker 2>one five, So he's got some size to him.

0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 3>The link is fine. I'm okay with the link.

0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:00.480
<v Speaker 2>It's the physicality and the technice puts it at the

0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>line of scrimmage. I think there are times whenever his

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 2>footwork gets sloppy, there's times when he is out of position,

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 2>he bites on the double move.

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 3>But overall, I think he's an athlete that you can teach.

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 2>And you talked about growth ability, I he shue with

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:15.000
<v Speaker 2>some of these corners.

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:16.920
<v Speaker 3>I think he's another guy that has all the traits.

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 3>He has some legitimate instincts.

0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just technique that needs to be sharpened, and he's

0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 2>able to take a step forward and be a really

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 2>good corner.

0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 7>In This kid US number sixteen. This kid has a

0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:29.960
<v Speaker 7>knack for blocking kicks too. If you go back and

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 7>look at his story that he on special teams he plays,

0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:37.240
<v Speaker 7>he can get up on receivers really really tight and

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:40.439
<v Speaker 7>be very disruptive the way he plays. And then also

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:43.600
<v Speaker 7>see him playing zone and he pedals sideways, you know,

0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 7>like he gets like sideways and he's kind of dry

0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 7>and he's keeping everything into the middle of the field.

0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:52.200
<v Speaker 7>So you've seen him kind of play either tight or

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 7>in a zone, and he adapts, he really really does,

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 7>and he gets his head around. He can locate the

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:01.439
<v Speaker 7>ball his ball skills are out standing. That's a great

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 7>name to bring up. He knows how to finish place

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 7>because the way he puts himself in position. I mentioned

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 7>the special teams value there. I could see him being

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<v Speaker 7>a nickel and a starter. And because of his aggressiveness,

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<v Speaker 7>his toughness.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the way this kid competes his brothers already

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<v Speaker 2>in the league as well too, bow melting.

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<v Speaker 4>You might remember him from a no. I love it,

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<v Speaker 4>I love it, I love it. I do have one

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<v Speaker 4>question before we get out of here. A couple of

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<v Speaker 4>corners that I think could have some safety flex at

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<v Speaker 4>the next level. TJ Tampa out of Iowa State, Ronardo

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<v Speaker 4>Green out of floor.

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<v Speaker 3>I keep not nowhere to put Green. Don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>move TJ. Tampa. No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 6>He's going to say he was one of the guys

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<v Speaker 6>that I wanted to mention.

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<v Speaker 3>Green.

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<v Speaker 4>Drena is a difficult one. I think that's trouble. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the guy you bring in the building and you play

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<v Speaker 4>him out at some different.

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<v Speaker 3>Positions and see what he wants training camp.

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<v Speaker 7>He's gonna have a busy I kind of have a

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<v Speaker 7>problem stacking him with the other guys.

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<v Speaker 6>With the other corners.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because because he's really I think he's really good,

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<v Speaker 7>and but then some of the other guys think might

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<v Speaker 7>be a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you read your notes and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 7>His toughness, the thing that I saw about him that

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<v Speaker 7>kind of scares me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's a fifty to fifty guy on penalties.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's a.

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<v Speaker 7>Grabby, clutchy, you know, kind of hang on to you guy,

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<v Speaker 7>and he plays all over the place. He's competitive, he's

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<v Speaker 7>a great he's not He's the type of player he's

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<v Speaker 7>not afraid to play you tight, and he's going to

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<v Speaker 7>compete for every ball.

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<v Speaker 3>But man, I saw a grabby drape.

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<v Speaker 7>Over the arm back across the receiver's back kind of

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<v Speaker 7>a player.

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<v Speaker 9>I think he's too fast for his own good sometimes,

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<v Speaker 9>and I actually put I think he needs to play

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<v Speaker 9>more under control at times. And I think I just

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<v Speaker 9>think he's so fast that sometimes he's he's beating the

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<v Speaker 9>receiver to the spot and things like that, and so

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<v Speaker 9>you will see some of the grab he's too early.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna I'm gonna send you my board and you can

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<v Speaker 3>put him where you think.

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<v Speaker 6>But I do.

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<v Speaker 9>We did get to see him at the Shrine Bowl,

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<v Speaker 9>and I felt like he played pretty clean.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's so smart.

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<v Speaker 10>I think he's looking for qes to where he can

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<v Speaker 10>just jump on routes and sometimes he's just he's too

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<v Speaker 10>early at it.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's crazy too because he has pbu's but he

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<v Speaker 9>doesn't take the ball away a lot. So I think

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<v Speaker 9>that's also the other side of if you are, you better,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, make a play on the ball. So I

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<v Speaker 9>actually really like the player a whole bunch, especially because

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<v Speaker 9>of what he's able to do with man and you're

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<v Speaker 9>seeing him battle with neighbors.

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<v Speaker 3>Was I'm gonna I'm gonna have him too low?

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<v Speaker 6>That was done to see.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're no, no, no, I love it. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are I think you're right about the player.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I'm gonna talk to you Nick.

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<v Speaker 3>That's gonna do it for us here on the Draft Show.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a lot of fun, guys. Thanks for the debate,

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for the names. Did a nice job in this

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<v Speaker 3>corner position. Got some corner has talked about.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna keep doing some position spout lights.

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<v Speaker 3>On Thursday's stopping on corners. I'm done, Brian's gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>uh some would you rather? On Thursday? You gotta bring

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<v Speaker 3>back would you rather? That was a popular segment from

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of days ago. Thank you guys, than with Bobby.

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<v Speaker 10>Jobby super Bb taking garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>For Zach Wilchuck, Nick Harris, Brian brought us Ayisha Morrison.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kyle Yeoman saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So long from the Draft show. We will see you

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<v Speaker 3>on Thursday.

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