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Speaker 1: He's the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 2: Today is Tuesday, March ninth, twenty twenty four, and we

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Speaker 2: are officially thirty seven days away from the NFL Draft

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Speaker 2: in Detroit, Michigan. Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by

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Speaker 2: Miller Lte live from the Star in Frisco, Texas. Insigned

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Speaker 2: the s WBC Studios, we have Zach Walchuk, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 2: Brian brod Us making her triumphant return, Aisha Morrison. I'm

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Speaker 2: Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us, Chris being running everything

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Speaker 2: in the back thirty seven.

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Speaker 3: Days March nineteenth. By the way, what did I say?

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Speaker 4: You said March ninth. It's fine, you know, just.

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Speaker 5: For the you know the one and the nine, a

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Speaker 5: lot whatever whatever, one, ninth three, you know nine, Kyle

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Speaker 5: and I barely lab It's not a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not. Yeah. Everything good, Everything's good. You're doing

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Speaker 3: all right? Good, Nick, we failed to box everybody out

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Speaker 3: for sec How are babies doing. The babies are good.

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Speaker 3: You're doing a solid. How are your babies good over

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Speaker 3: there and outside of the table.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, one of them is down here, so there we go.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's here too.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about our draft babies. Let's talk about drafting.

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Speaker 6: They do become our children.

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Speaker 3: I'm never going to refer to them as that ever again,

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Speaker 3: all right, I'll help go ahead and refrain.

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Speaker 2: Thirty seven days away, Brian pro Day's are in full effect.

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Speaker 2: What's what's this time of year really feel like for

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Speaker 2: those scouts across the hall.

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Speaker 7: Well, they're trying to figure out right now, they're trying

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Speaker 7: to kind of run down some of the numbers they

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Speaker 7: didn't get at the Combine.

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Speaker 3: There were a lot of players that didn't do uh,

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Speaker 3: the did the.

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Speaker 7: The like the shuttles and things like that, the three cones,

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Speaker 7: things that they need to kind of fill in on

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Speaker 7: their boards.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And also this is the opportunity to for these coaches

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Speaker 7: to get out look at these players and work them

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Speaker 7: out themselves. They at the Combine, they saw them work

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Speaker 7: and stuff like that. So you know, you get your

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Speaker 7: thirty visits coming up. That'll be probably the first of April.

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Speaker 7: So they're going to knock out all these pro days

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Speaker 7: and then they're gonna come back and they're going to

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Speaker 7: start putting this board together. But it's an important time

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Speaker 7: for those guys. A lot of pressure on these players

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Speaker 7: that didn't work out at the Combine. You know, now

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Speaker 7: you're putting kind of all your eggs in one basket.

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Speaker 7: You're saying, Okay, here we go. We're gonna have a

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Speaker 7: Pro day for you. And if you, you know, say

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Speaker 7: you run a slow time. I know there's some thought

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Speaker 7: about Lasseter the corner from Georgia didn't run a particularly

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Speaker 7: great time in his pro day, and so now the

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Speaker 7: worry of when you don't run at the Combine and

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Speaker 7: then you run it your Pro day and you don't

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Speaker 7: have a particularly fast time, you're running out of days

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Speaker 7: to kind of make that up. So a lot of

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Speaker 7: But Scott's trying to get all their numbers together, the

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Speaker 7: coaches are trying to get an idea about working these

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like these pro days are the final

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Speaker 4: opportunity to add data into these guys and be able

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Speaker 4: to build context before you bring them in for thirty visits.

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Speaker 4: Those thirty visits happening between now and April for certain teams.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like the Cowboys more so April, but that'll be

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Speaker 4: the true final opportunity to get an opportunity to see

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 2: Some of the pre March nineteenth pro days that have

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Speaker 2: Alabama one tomorrow, Texas is tomorrow, USC is tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris will be out of the Texas Pro Day

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Speaker 2: So a big day of rolling into Wednesday this week

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Speaker 2: and lots of lots of things to look forward to

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Speaker 3: So what are you looking forward to tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really excited to see all those guys that

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Speaker 4: that I'm really excited to see, and we talked about

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Speaker 4: him a little bit off the show last week. Kyle

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Speaker 4: was Jordan Whittington, the receiver for them that they brought

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Speaker 4: in and the class of twenty nineteen. They expected him

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Speaker 4: have the statistics that you know some of the these

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Speaker 4: once he runs tomorrow, he's gonna impress a lot of people.

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Speaker 6: I have a question for you, folks.

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Speaker 9: So you brought up Lassiter if I'm not mistaken, Brian,

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Speaker 9: So at one point in time, like say, he doesn't

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Speaker 6: It doesn't. And that's something that I struggle with with.

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Speaker 9: You know, looking deeper into these players is like putting

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Speaker 9: a value on these combine pro days, but then also

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Speaker 9: understanding like some players just I mean, you teach these

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Speaker 9: Brian is a better person to ask what in general, guys,

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Speaker 9: how do y'all separate those things from what you see

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Speaker 4: I think it's specifically interesting with Lass because I've liked

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Speaker 4: what he could bring from a Nickel perspective, And if

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Speaker 4: think he could be a better Nickel. But as far

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Speaker 4: With his broad and his vertical, that stuff gives me

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Speaker 4: I just I focus on the instincts more than I

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Speaker 4: would focus on the athleticism. The athleticism needs to be there,

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Speaker 4: it's football, but I would focus on the instincts a

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Speaker 10: The last I think he shows instincts when you watch

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Speaker 10: him play. Like the one thing I do have in

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Speaker 10: my notes, which might be somewhat okay, that is a

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Speaker 10: red flag with the speed as he does get a

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Speaker 10: he doesn't create too much separation. But overall, I mean, Brian,

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Speaker 10: I don't know if you agree with this or not,

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Speaker 10: but I always am just gonna go back to the film.

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Speaker 10: What did I see on tape? I think there's a

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Speaker 10: then that doesn't always translate. If you're able to marry

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna revert back to what did I see? What

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Speaker 10: I care more about what you do with pads in

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Speaker 7: I built this into my notes because I said I

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Speaker 7: thought he played with more quickness than he does speed.

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Speaker 7: So I knew going in that this guy probably wasn't

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Speaker 7: take contact early. He wants to try and be disruptive. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: that's his whole idea. I have the same problem with

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Speaker 7: King from Penn State. I'm watching this guy play at

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Speaker 7: a very high level cover people, doesn't run particularly well,

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Speaker 7: but then all of a sudden, he runs a four

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Speaker 7: to one six short shuttle twenty shuttle. So now I'm thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 7: the guy's got lateral agility, he's got some quickness to

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Speaker 7: it is it's a difficult situation you deal with. Johnny Wilson,

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Speaker 7: the tall receiver from Florida State.

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Speaker 3: He's six six.

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Speaker 7: He's rare that you have a six I think Colin

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Speaker 7: Johnson was the last person that we saw in the

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Speaker 7: think the Colts took him or somebody like that was

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Speaker 7: This South, And I think but the the thing about

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Speaker 7: it is, you he doesn't run particularly well, but he

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Speaker 7: makes all these plays. So all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 7: start to sit there and you're thinking, God, they play

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Speaker 7: a lot faster than on tape then, and there's there's

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Speaker 7: some guys that if you put pads on him, they're

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Speaker 7: going to run for six. If you take the pads

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: So that's some of the things that you kind of

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Speaker 7: have to feel like that you deal with in these drafts.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, because even Darius Robinson Miszoo, he didn't exactly run

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me it's mostly context more than

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Speaker 3: So I think it's a context thing.

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Speaker 2: It's all the information that you're gathering along the way

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Speaker 7: I've been in rooms where I've heard scouts a guy

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Speaker 3: He is going to be a great player in this league.

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Speaker 7: And sure enough, you know, guy ends up playing twelve

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Speaker 7: thirteen years. Well, there was a receiver back in the

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Speaker 3: What's that Andkwin Bolden it's a pretty good one.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And Kwan Bolden Walter Julips scout was like he did,

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Speaker 7: that's exactly. Walter stood up and said, you mfors can

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Speaker 7: put him anywhere you want. He goes, he is going

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Speaker 7: to play in this league for a long time, and

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Speaker 7: sure enough he's picked that thing in the second.

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Speaker 2: Round and he played one hundred years, you know, and

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Speaker 7: And sometimes you get those guys like that, and you

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Speaker 3: I don't care how fast he runs. YEA.

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Speaker 7: The tape that we all watch and that's ourly, that's

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Speaker 7: our group's only advantage. I mean, that's our only advantages.

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Speaker 7: We get to watch tape and then maybe an occasional workout.

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Speaker 7: But that's what you go off of. And I think

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Speaker 7: just evaluate the tape. I mean, I had a scout

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Speaker 7: favor when you're done some of your board and I go,

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Speaker 7: why do you want my board? And he goes, Because

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Speaker 7: you're just watching tape. You're not worried about all the

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Speaker 7: You're you know, I hear this, I hear this, I

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Speaker 7: see this, I hear You're just watching tape. That's generally

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Speaker 2: It's really interesting, it really is, because those guys have

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Speaker 2: so many different factors.

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Speaker 7: They have too many, too many clutter them up. And

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Speaker 7: we were just talking about it opening here. You know,

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Speaker 7: like going, wait a minute. He doesn't understand concepts here.

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Speaker 7: And that effects if a coach doesn't feel like they

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Speaker 7: We saw that with this team last year with a Dogay,

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Speaker 7: when you can't make when you can't make blocks or

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Speaker 3: Way, they won't play you. That part of it is

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Speaker 2: And they're gonna have to make some replacements to in

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Speaker 2: the guys that they lost based off of some of

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Speaker 3: I've got a little bit of a game here.

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Speaker 2: We'll take about ten minutes on this, but I've got

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Speaker 2: six names that have departed.

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Speaker 3: From the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: I want you to tell me the most likely draft

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Speaker 2: prospect to replace these names.

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Speaker 3: And this could be your own opinion.

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Speaker 2: We could come to a conclusion if we want as

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Speaker 2: a group, but more likely, I want names that can

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Speaker 2: be realistic replaces for each of these guys that have

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Speaker 2: a lot of them and a lot of them that

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Speaker 2: wire impact players.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start on the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get it out of the way because this

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Speaker 2: is probably the most likely Day one, Day two picks.

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Speaker 2: We'll start at offensive tackle. Tyron Smith departs Zach Waltschek.

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Speaker 3: Who do you feel like is the most likely offensive

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Speaker 10: I kind of think as we've gotten closer to this

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Speaker 10: at twenty four, if they do address that in the

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Speaker 10: first round, I think Geyiton from Oklahoma seems like the

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Speaker 10: most likely candidate. I mean, I would love me some

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Speaker 10: Jordan Morgan out of Arizona. I've got him great at

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Speaker 10: higher I do wonder because I think we heard this

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Speaker 10: they viewed him as a guard and not as a tackle.

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Speaker 10: And maybe it was the short arms. And I wonder

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Speaker 10: because Morgan is similar in that regard, if they would

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Speaker 10: take him and say, all right, we feel comfortable playing

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Speaker 10: you at left tackle. I think Morgan is a better

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Speaker 10: player on tape. I think Geiton is raw that are talented.

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Speaker 10: He's big, he's got long arms. He can get to

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Speaker 10: the second level. For those that maybe we have talked

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Speaker 10: at Oklahoma this past year. I think he can play

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Speaker 10: left or right side. He's got some versatility on that regard.

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Speaker 10: Six ' seven, he's got room to fill out. I

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Speaker 10: can get overpowered at times. But at twenty four and

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Speaker 10: we've seen if the Cowboys say all right, like with

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Speaker 10: but they see traits that they like that they can

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Speaker 10: bold Geiton kind of fits that a little bit for me.

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Speaker 10: I wonder if at twenty four, if he's the best

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Speaker 10: the most likely replacement.

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Speaker 6: I'm torn.

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Speaker 9: I'm torn on whether they're going to and we kind

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Speaker 9: of talked about it before the show started, if they're

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Speaker 9: gonna move Tyler back to tackle and then just go

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Speaker 9: get a guard. Maybe not in the first round, maybe

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Speaker 9: in the second or third round.

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Speaker 10: Do you think they need to get a guard, because

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Speaker 10: I think I feel TJ. Bass can be a plug

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Speaker 10: and play left guard. I'd rather just address center and

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Speaker 10: then we can just go for depth pieces behind that.

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Speaker 6: I agree.

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Speaker 9: I struggle with that because personally, I just think, uh,

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Speaker 9: the depth is just it's invaluable to question and I

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Speaker 9: and I and again, I do think he's capable of

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Speaker 9: being a starter. I don't mean I want to be

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Speaker 9: one right now unless he just outright earns it, which

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Speaker 9: is he could. But I that's the thing that tears me.

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Speaker 9: Do you think that Guidan could play guard?

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Speaker 10: No? I think Morgan Morgan play guard. Guid and I

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Speaker 10: think needs to probably stay at tackle. I don't see

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Speaker 10: the bend there like you do. For Morgan. I think

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Speaker 6: So you guys are comfortable with a rookie left tackle, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Just because just because of their history, the history here

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Speaker 7: and play. That that is, that is something that you know,

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Speaker 7: you can fault him for some things, but everyone that

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Speaker 7: they've ever addressed is a first round offensive lineman. Seems

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Speaker 7: to have worked out for them. And now, but we

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Speaker 7: saw a poor draft last year. We've always talked about

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Speaker 7: hope that this is not one of those times that

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Speaker 9: I struggle with that too though, because I'm just like,

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Speaker 9: there's other skill players that are there.

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Speaker 6: If there's other.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I'll tell you what happened though, Ayisha, And

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Speaker 7: I think you know this, all these players that went

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Speaker 7: best available player.

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Speaker 6: It hurt.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you now you're now there's two things you need

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Speaker 7: to think about in this draft, addressing your needs and

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Speaker 7: how can I get a fourth round pick?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a crappy place to be in.

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Speaker 7: And that's where all of a sudden you start to say,

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Speaker 7: take is not there. Maybe all of a sudden, now

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Speaker 7: you're saying, well, we've got to grab a center here,

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Speaker 7: and there's gonna be somebody on your board when you

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Speaker 7: get to twenty four and you're gonna look down and

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Speaker 7: you're going, I got this linebacker graded higher. Yep, I've

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Speaker 7: got this wide receiver graded higher, and you're gonna and

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Speaker 7: you're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Have to I think.

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Speaker 7: I think the way that free agency went for this team,

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Speaker 7: you're wrong.

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Speaker 3: I would love for that to happen within the next

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Speaker 3: forty minutes. Yeah, you can get it on camera. But

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Speaker 3: see that's what I'm saying, though.

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Speaker 7: I just feel like they've lost their flexibility for best

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Speaker 3: You can't take Cede Lamb in this draft, not anymore

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Speaker 3: because people go, well, what are you gonna do, etc.

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Speaker 3: What are you gonna do a left tackle? What are

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Speaker 3: you gonna do at lineback?

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Speaker 10: How you end up with a bad draft class though,

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Speaker 10: because you're right, I which with you, But you draft

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Speaker 10: for need, that's.

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Speaker 3: How you end up teaching draft for teams.

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Speaker 7: Do draft for need? You draft best available player with

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Speaker 7: based on your need. So they're going to hope. And

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Speaker 7: that's why I think the Tyler Smith moving to tackle

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Speaker 7: spot could be what if the right the correct.

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Speaker 3: Tax is not on that board. Sure you don't like Morgan,

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Speaker 3: maybe like Martin Johnson.

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Speaker 7: I will say this about Guidon Okay, And I learned

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Speaker 7: will make sense.

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Speaker 3: Someone in that room is going to say flows l

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Speaker 3: Adams to him, Okay. Somebody's going to say a six ' eight.

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Speaker 7: No, okay, somebody is yes. Somebody is going to in

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Speaker 7: that room, if they know better, is going to mention

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Speaker 7: the name Flozell Adams, huge man, athlete, played guard, played tackle.

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Speaker 7: You know, he he was the exactly See, That's that's

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Speaker 7: what Jerry understands when you tell him, hey, boss, he

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Speaker 7: Jerry starts looking over the top of his glasses like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: I see what you're talking about here, you know.

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Speaker 3: So that's how you sell guid in to him, I believe.

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Speaker 7: But the flexibility of taking Aisha's best wide receiver or

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Speaker 7: best corner off that board. Now corner, maybe maybe you

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Speaker 7: could take the best corner and you'd be okay, But

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Speaker 7: you take a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: What if that tight end got to you? You know

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Speaker 3: what I mean?

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Speaker 4: There's if is there? Are you taking him?

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Speaker 7: That's I'm saying you need to And I talked about kill.

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Speaker 10: You for that one because because Brian, you've taught me,

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Speaker 10: don't window dress that board right.

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Speaker 2: No, So like in the situation going into the to me,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that you can view it like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think my view of team building.

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Speaker 7: Don't tell them they're going You don't think they're going

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Speaker 7: to stack their board with all their needs in the

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Speaker 7: top of that board and your window.

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Speaker 3: Dress on your board.

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Speaker 7: Well, they have to, they have no choice. They got

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Speaker 7: to make sure that they get the guys that they want.

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Speaker 10: But they are a football team where they're only way

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Speaker 10: of team building right now, and they can disagree and

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Speaker 10: that's totally fine. But what they've proven over the last

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Speaker 10: few years is we are building through the draft. Your

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Speaker 10: same needs that you have right now aren't your same

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Speaker 10: needs you're gonna have next year. And where you're drafting,

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Speaker 10: you aren't drafting for this year, you're drafting for four

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Speaker 10: you're drafting for five years now. When they took Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 10: was he a need pick? No, he ends up being

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Speaker 10: one of their best picks of the last decade. And

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Speaker 10: where would you be without him right now? So if

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Speaker 10: I take light too, Law too, and he's the best

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Speaker 10: player on my board, and yes, I'm desperate for a center,

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Speaker 10: Yes I'm desperate for a tackle.

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Speaker 3: Four years from now, are you.

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Speaker 10: Going to look back if law two hits and say, damn,

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Speaker 10: that was a bad pick we really should have taken.

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Speaker 3: Probably No.

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Speaker 10: And that's how good teams draft, and that's why this

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Speaker 10: team's been a good drafting team. You get in trouble

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Speaker 10: when you take a Mazzie Smith, Sure who doesn't pan out,

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Speaker 10: and maybe he still will.

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Speaker 3: I'm not losing out just an.

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Speaker 10: Example right now, but because oh, we really need to

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Speaker 10: help our run game, we really need a big defensive tackle.

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Speaker 10: That's how teams end up taking the wrong players because

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Speaker 10: they go ahead and draft for need and they don't

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Speaker 10: take the player that they grated the best. I agree

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Speaker 10: with you, and I think if you take a player

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Speaker 10: like that in a position like that, then you're good.

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Speaker 3: You take the best player on your board.

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Speaker 2: He's probably gonna end up being one of the better

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Speaker 2: players because you evaluate them, you trust them in whatever

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Speaker 2: that ends up being.

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Speaker 3: But the one thing you said in that whole monologue

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Speaker 3: is the.

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Speaker 2: Fact you said desperate. They are desperate in a couple

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Speaker 2: of spots. Whenever CD Lamb was taken, they weren't desperate

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Speaker 2: in a couple of spots. There were some spots sure

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Speaker 2: that it was probably a bigger need than wide receiver

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Speaker 2: they should have used at edge.

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Speaker 3: Desperate for an edge. They were desperate. I wouldn't say

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Speaker 3: desperate though, because they still had Tank Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: They still had some pieces that they had already invested in,

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Speaker 2: like a Dorn's arms.

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Speaker 10: You don't think there's a scout in that room that'll

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Speaker 10: say like, oh, we got TJ. Batch, we got brought

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Speaker 10: Coff and we can line up and play if we

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Speaker 10: had you.

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Speaker 3: Are we desperate?

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Speaker 10: Yes, So we're so desperate we're gonna read one and

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Speaker 10: I'm not gonna take a one.

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Speaker 3: I think you're just it's a bad strategy.

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Speaker 4: That's where you move back though. That's that's where you

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Speaker 4: have the flexibility of picking up that force.

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Speaker 3: We can we can go ahead and move back. I'm

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Speaker 3: okay with moving back. Can we can trade back.

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Speaker 4: My question though, is when you're drafting you say you're

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Speaker 4: you're against drafting for need. Let's say you are drafting

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Speaker 4: for need. You need to be able to do that.

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Speaker 4: You need to have trust in your scouting depart I

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Speaker 4: don't think it'd be hard pressed to find another organization

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Speaker 4: that trusts for scouting department.

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Speaker 3: More a lot of pressure usually coming after more pressure

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Speaker 3: on them.

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Speaker 10: If you're going to overdraft a player, when those scouts said, hey,

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Speaker 10: this guy's clearly better, and now we're going to go

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Speaker 10: ahead and take X for need and pass on a

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Speaker 10: guy that we have evaluated.

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Speaker 7: They're not going to jumps. They're going to make sure

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Speaker 7: all those guys.

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Speaker 3: Are in luck there. Yeah, and I'm not against drafting

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Speaker 3: for need.

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Speaker 10: I'm just against doing it when we clearly have a

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Speaker 10: better player that is there that is slid just for

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Speaker 10: the sake of drafting a need pick.

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Speaker 2: Would you be overdrafting Jordan Morgan, Tyler, Guidon, Amarius.

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Speaker 10: Mems who else? I mean, that's it really just depends

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Speaker 10: on who else would be sitting there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they just don't have the luxury, to me, with

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Speaker 9: how the draft went last year, to not be aggressive

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Speaker 9: and to not you need contribution from your top three

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Speaker 9: picks at the very least immediately.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't get a contribution from an edge if you drafted.

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Speaker 6: You would, That's what I'm a I'm agreeing with you.

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Speaker 9: I'm agreeing with you, right, I know, I'm like Lord Mersey,

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Speaker 9: I ain't have to get you. I feel the same way.

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Speaker 9: I think they have put themselves in a bad situation.

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Speaker 9: But a lot of it has to do with the

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Speaker 9: lack of contribution from your draft picks last year and

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Speaker 9: not knowing what they're going to be because quite frankly,

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Speaker 9: we're talking about tackle.

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Speaker 6: We have no idea what awesome Richards is.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem.

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Speaker 6: That's the problem, no idea.

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Speaker 9: But maybe they do and maybe that maybe that may

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Speaker 9: play into Connor what you were talking about with t J.

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Speaker 9: Bis and brock Kaufman. They might be like, well, maybe

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Speaker 9: we can't get a receiver here because they do have

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Speaker 9: faith in what Awesome has.

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Speaker 6: We just don't have that right now.

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Speaker 7: I agree with you to a point, and the point

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Speaker 7: I would think I would feel a lot better if

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Speaker 7: I knew what Awesome Richards was instead of Tuma Adoka

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Speaker 7: playing tackle. I agree, But I and I know, and

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Speaker 7: I know what Matt Let's go is. He's got his

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Speaker 7: he's got his shoulders getting fixed. Okay, I think Matt

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Speaker 7: well Let's go is a tough guy and all that.

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Speaker 7: He just hadn't play. But I don't know if they

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Speaker 7: could tell me what they know about Awesome Richards, you know.

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Speaker 3: And maybe, like I say, you're right, maybe they've got

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Speaker 3: it all squared up.

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Speaker 7: I wish they would have played Awesome Richards then, and

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Speaker 7: that way I would have feel better about I do

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Speaker 7: know I've seen their left guard play at a high

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Speaker 7: level at left tackle.

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Speaker 3: I know that i'd seen that one with my own eyes.

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Speaker 9: Are you in the mindset though, I'm in the mindset

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Speaker 9: of wherever they put him this year?

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think they can move them one

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Speaker 3: more time and then you're you're done. I'm over. You're

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Speaker 3: staying stay put.

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Speaker 6: It's not even me, and I'm over it, not even me.

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Speaker 2: that need to be replaced for the Cowboys. We got

662
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: through offensive tackle. Thanks Zach Wolcheck for starting and sparking.

663
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: That debate we had. I thought it was an It

664
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: was a very fun conversation. Well, I'm gonna start with

665
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: you on this one. Aha. Tyler Biais has gone at center.

666
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: Who's the most likely draft prospect to replace him?

667
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 6: If they're picking in the early rounds.

668
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: Wherever you feel like the value fits best.

669
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 6: Do you guys have a first one?

670
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: I have a third.

671
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: I think I had fourth.

672
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: That's what you believe. I believe.

673
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 9: I believe that they would like his temperament, and I

674
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 9: do believe that they also would if they didn't pick

675
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 9: a center.

676
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 6: I just don't see them picking a center in.

677
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: The first round.

678
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 6: Feel that in my spirit.

679
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

680
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 9: So I think I think he's I think he's a

681
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 9: respected player. I think people know who he is and

682
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 9: things like that. He still can use some polish, I think,

683
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 9: and I think this team has started to kind of

684
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 9: like that.

685
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 6: I feel like they have drafted guys. It's really hard

686
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 6: not to look at this last draft with the draft

687
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 6: before that.

688
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 9: You do see that they like some guys that have

689
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 9: a little bit of rawness to them that they can

690
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 9: maybe polish. I think that set of being praying as

691
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 9: a gentleman that they could take and maybe the third

692
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 9: round if they had that option, to clear up that

693
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 9: center position. Is there any guy in the later rounds

694
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 9: that's a center that you guys are interested?

695
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: I started to talk about Bordalini, although I feel like

696
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: he's creeping in the Day two territory for sure.

697
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: Can I throw out Mason mccormicks out to coach. Yeah,

698
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: I think I put very athletic that spoiler alert.

699
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's a guard. Yeah, I think he's

700
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: a guard.

701
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: But if you're talking about filling some spots, yeah, maybe

702
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: move TJ.

703
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: Bass inside or.

704
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: Nat Lee out of Miami. Has a little dog to him.

705
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: He's raw, but he's got some dogs at the shroom ball.

706
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking dog. So I gotta give bou limmerg

707
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: just a little bit of the.

708
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 6: Fourth round, like opposite, we talked about this the other week.

709
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 9: If they don't pick in the third round, I think

710
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 9: Bo's a guy that maybe might be there the fourth.

711
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you pick up that.

712
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 9: Fourth, Yeah, if you pick up that fourth, fourth, I

713
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 9: think he's he's doing himself too much justice with how

714
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 9: he's performed as of late. I think that he's doing

715
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 9: he's getting more traction bo is in my opinion, because

716
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 9: at first I would have been like, oh, maybe he's

717
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 9: like a fifth and some people's eyes early fifth, late fourth.

718
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 9: But the way that he's played, and it's just his

719
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 9: attitude and the way he can wrestle in there, like that's.

720
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 6: What people are looking for.

721
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: Just doesn't quit man, what you got.

722
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 4: I want to continue to bang the table for Christian

723
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: Hands as a potential center option.

724
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 3: I do love that option too.

725
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: If he's there, If he's sitting there in eighty seven,

726
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: you take that, Yeah, I would to you take him

727
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: to I think he I think he comes off in

728
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: the second round there. Yeah, I think he comes off

729
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: late second. But I think once you start getting past

730
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: pick fifty to fifty five, especially with this offensive line class,

731
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: that's gonna be really fluid, and I think it's gonna

732
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 4: it's there's a lot of shaking around that could happen there.

733
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: I think there's some guys that might might go later

734
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: than they were expected, or guys that'll go earlier than

735
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: they may maybe would have expected.

736
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: Christian Hanes a center though, Yeah, I think he can

737
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: play center guard forty nine straight games a guard. Yeah.

738
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: I saw him play center at a Senior Bowl. I

739
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 3: loved what I saw. A smart player, yes.

740
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: Really smart player IQ pre snap tendencies and he was

741
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: calling out stuff pre snap for Yukon. So yeah, that's

742
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: a that's a guy I would want in the in

743
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: the middle.

744
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 9: Okay, I have another gentleman. Have you guys watched Gear Greenfield,

745
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 9: South Dakota. Yes, okay, that he's a guard. I don't

746
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 9: think he's I don't think I don't I'm not sure

747
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 9: if he can move to center, but he is a

748
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 9: guard that I think maybe somebody.

749
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 6: Might think about possibly he could play some center.

750
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 9: Just because of how he finishes and how he bounces

751
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 9: off the line.

752
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 6: He's a four year starter. He's just so tall and

753
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 6: I'm very tall. He's very tall, very lengthy.

754
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 9: I don't know if you want that for a center,

755
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 9: but I do think he's a guy that is gonna

756
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 9: fall maybe be in the later rounds that people might

757
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 9: look at.

758
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: So there's so many fun so talented.

759
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 9: They're talented and their their technique is very sound as well.

760
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 9: But yeah, all right, so you covered a million centers.

761
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 9: But said to brand is a gentleman that I think

762
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 9: might be down He's.

763
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: A nasty guy, too tough. I'll tell you what.

764
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 7: And I I love what I just did there because

765
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 7: to me with you know people not maybe you're gonna

766
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 7: down play him a little bit because he's two hundred.

767
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: Ninety eight pounds right now for that, but you know,

768
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: he's a stout guy.

769
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 7: He had a little bit more trouble with the power

770
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 7: in the Tennessee game than the Kentucky game that I watched.

771
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 7: But man, I'll tell you what, though he's got some

772
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 7: his nastiness is impressive.

773
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: And you know, I.

774
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 7: Think because when he keeps his feet moving, he he

775
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 7: could be hard to deal with because he can position,

776
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 7: he can kind of wall you off.

777
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: He could keep you from the ball.

778
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 7: But that's that's where in space, I think he's a

779
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 7: nightmared for these defenders to deal with because he gets

780
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 7: out in space he.

781
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: Could pull second level.

782
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 7: There's a lot of really positive things about them, as

783
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 7: as a said, But the thing is he is two

784
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 7: hundred and ninety eight pounds right now, so you know,

785
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 7: we probably need to keep an eye on that.

786
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 9: I talk myself out of it because I just realized.

787
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 6: That they need people to play in the third round.

788
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 9: And if they think Kaufman is going to be a starter,

789
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 9: are you going to use a third round on a

790
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 9: center if he's not gonna play it?

791
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: Because I think he's what do you believe? What do

792
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: you do you think, bro I think I don't want

793
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: to know what they think. I want to know what

794
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: you think.

795
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: Do you think brock Hoffman would be better starting or

796
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: do you think Cedric Van Pram would be.

797
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: A better starter.

798
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 9: I think he's capable of starting. I just we haven't

799
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 9: seen a whole bunch from him. I like what I

800
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 9: saw from him in a few games that he did

801
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 9: play though, just the fire and the ball. I thought

802
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 9: he and TJ. Bass worked really well together. And I

803
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 9: think your interior has to have that temperament like and

804
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 9: it can't be for play play either.

805
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: It can't be like I lost, absolutely.

806
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 9: Not and even be hodish like I felt like he

807
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 9: had the attitude but it didn show.

808
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 6: Up in his play all the time.

809
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 3: That's a good point.

810
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 9: So baby, if you're talking, you better be firing off

811
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 9: that ball the same way you talking.

812
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 6: So for me, I think that it has to match.

813
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 9: And with Hoffman, I feel like his talk and how

814
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 9: he is attitudely matches what we've seen for him the

815
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 9: times we've seen him play. I think he's people respect.

816
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 6: Him in the locker room for what I understand. I

817
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 6: think he's capable.

818
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 9: But if you can't get better there, I think it

819
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 9: just depends on if you.

820
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: You brought up you brought up Van Prant, give me

821
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: him all day over?

822
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, We've talked about these sinners and

823
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 7: all that.

824
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 3: I think there's an opportunity here to upgrade.

825
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 7: I think this is one of this classes of sinners

826
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 7: where we named off five guys and I felt like like.

827
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: Every one of them. When you name the guy, I said, yeah,

828
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: and if.

829
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 6: Is a really good backup, you're blessed.

830
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I'm sorry about death. You sorry about depth position?

831
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 4: Yes, I haven't.

832
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: Well real quickly in this entire conversation, I'm kind of shocked.

833
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: I didn't hear any Graham Barton talk out of Duke Well.

834
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 6: I didn't think he oh well.

835
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, four. Do you think he got in there?

836
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: That's my that is my dream selection.

837
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 6: You think he's going to be there.

838
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 10: That's why to take Graham Barton at twenty four out of.

839
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: Due Graham Barton would be outstanding there.

840
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 7: To me, if you traded back to Buffalo at twenty eight,

841
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 7: Baltimore at thirty picked up the late third round pick,

842
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 7: remember we talked about that before Day three starts.

843
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: That's what I'm looking at.

844
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 10: Fraser Frasers, Well, yeah, I mean either way, just landing

845
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 10: a tackle.

846
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 7: If you can tell me a tackle you could trade

847
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 7: back for, or a sinner you could trade back for.

848
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: I mean exacting.

849
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 4: I'm a Frasier.

850
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 7: Give me four picks inside the top one hundred yep,

851
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 7: and I'm playing.

852
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm fixing this football team.

853
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 4: Sounds good to Yeah, and another guy to keep an

854
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: eye on it. We haven't really talked about him as

855
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: much when we talk about this tackle class. I feel

856
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: like he kind of gets lost in the shuff a

857
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: little bit, just because he's comfortably a second round grade,

858
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: but a potential trade back option that you're looking at

859
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: in that thirty to thirty five range. Let's say they

860
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: end up in there. Kingsley Sue Sue Taya out of

861
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: a b YU. He's got the guard flex, so you

862
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: can bring him in and see if he works better

863
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: at left guard or left tackle. You're able to work

864
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: him out with Tyler Smith in that instance. He's a

865
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 4: transfer from Morgan. He was a highly touted recruit, played

866
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 4: a couple of years there at b YU and was

867
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: really strong, first team All Big twelve. I like Kingsley.

868
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: I think you would be too.

869
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: I think you're right all right.

870
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: Linebacker Nick Harris, So.

871
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 4: I'm what what linebacker role are we trying to?

872
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: Wait?

873
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 4: Fil got Eric Kendrick. So'm I'm gonna give you.

874
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: Give me a true Mike linebacker, a true mic Yes, Okay,

875
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: then I'm giving you Junior Coles.

876
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

877
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, ten times out of ten.

878
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: Second round. Don't look at that, don't look at the helmet.

879
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah at all at all. Yeah, I'm taking

880
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: Junior Colson if he's there.

881
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: Fifty six out of your last four first or second

882
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: round picks have come from the University of Michigan. That yeah,

883
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: wa to say they've got a ring, not at all.

884
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Junior Colson probably a Day two option, a Day

885
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 4: three option that I've I'm starting to love a little

886
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 4: bit more the more I I look into him. Is

887
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: a Jordan McGee out of Temple. That's another one that

888
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: I like. That was a formal meeting at the combine.

889
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: Trevin Wallace. We mentioned him a few times.

890
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: Out of Wallace, I just watched him. I saw Kentucky, right, Yes,

891
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: somebody talked to me about him. Yeah. Where's the third,

892
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: fourth round? Where is he?

893
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: We're probably looking at a fifth fifth, probably just because

894
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 4: he's five eleven. There's probably a little bit a size

895
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: concerns there, especially when you're looking at it from Cowboys perspective,

896
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: you feel like you really need big body linebacker.

897
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: That's why he's a little shorter.

898
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 4: He's a little shorter so I but I think he's

899
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: athletic freak.

900
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: He's high instincts.

901
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 4: He's he's going to be a thirty visit. That was

902
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: reported by Nicole Hutcheson, So you know that's a guy

903
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: that they're looking at pretty closely too.

904
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: He shed's blocks well.

905
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 10: I think he does a good job and navigating around

906
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 10: the trash, can drop back and coverage, can play man zone.

907
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 10: I think he's really good at filling holes in the

908
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 10: running game. Like he plays with his the instincts and

909
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 10: his eye awareness very very strong. I mean in high

910
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 10: school he was a dude that played all over the field,

911
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 10: even returned kicks, stay weightlifting champs, set the school record

912
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 10: for long jump. He's kind of just a freak athlete

913
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 10: type dude. I absolutely love him. I will say, you

914
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 10: want a true Mike. And maybe it's just because he

915
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 10: was hurt, so he's not getting a ton of love

916
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 10: and I know the athleticism is not there. But Tommy

917
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 10: Eikenberg from Ohio State, Yeah, like in the fourth round,

918
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 10: I would just say, you know.

919
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: What, has he slipped that far?

920
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 10: Well, he just a guy that I don't think is

921
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 10: getting a whole lot of.

922
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: Conversations because he's just a guy. He's a jack, you know.

923
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: But I don't think there's a And I'm not going.

924
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 10: To argue that because I mean at the athletic traits

925
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 10: there and I put that in my notes, like there's

926
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 10: nothing special with the speed, but he makes plays.

927
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 9: And that's unfortunate too, because I think a lot of

928
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 9: that has to do with how he's built and just

929
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 9: kind of how he looks.

930
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 6: But even when you.

931
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 9: Looked at like a Jack Campbell last year who has

932
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 9: that kind of bulk build and things like that, he

933
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 9: still had more coverage ability. To me, he still was

934
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 9: a more fluid mover and things like that. We got

935
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 9: to see it this year. So to your point, I

936
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 9: don't know, I don't know. If I don't know, if

937
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 9: I would take I canberg.

938
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 6: I think that I don't know.

939
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 9: I don't even know, because I feel like, what is

940
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 9: he even going to give you on special teams with

941
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 9: his lack of movement, because you know, these young guys

942
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 9: are gonna.

943
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: Have to play that guy he'll run down and cover.

944
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 6: There's a part Okay, well, okay, then correct me then.

945
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 9: But that's a part of it that I do think

946
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 9: is important is to also realize they've lost pieces on

947
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 9: special teams too, and I felt like they took a

948
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 9: step back last year and coverage and things like that.

949
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 9: So some of these guys that we're talking about that

950
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 9: are like, Okay, well are we gonna are these guys,

951
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 9: these linebackers, the guys gonna come in and play early.

952
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, maybe they need to be able to

953
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 9: run down to If.

954
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 7: You're gonna take Jack Campbell from Iowa from last year,

955
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 7: take Peyton Wilson from North Carolina.

956
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 9: State, you think so, yeah, I mean yeah, because he

957
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 9: is Jack had injuries to you.

958
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit.

959
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't know about the but I'm just saying the

960
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: same kind of players.

961
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Speaker 7: You what a player that can play downhill, could cover

962
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 7: fill gaps.

963
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: That's mean to me. I'm getting to the point now

964
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: with I'm this is gonna sound terrible. This thing.

965
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 7: I wonder, with the injury history with Peyton Wilson, if

966
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 7: he is going to be one of those guys that

967
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 7: you're sitting there in the third round and he's still.

968
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 4: There and you're wondering why he's still there.

969
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: You know why?

970
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 7: You know, I guarantee you there's gonna come down to

971
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 7: we're getting close to Dallas's pick there in the third round,

972
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 7: and Peyton Wilson be on the board, and we're all

973
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 7: gonna look at each other and go, do we have

974
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 7: the guts to do this?

975
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: Right now?

976
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 6: Somebody's gonna take a chance on him.

977
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you're the one that's pushing the button.

978
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 7: If you're the one that kid is, you want to

979
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 7: you want a linebacker that plays with his hair on fire.

980
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 7: Got is Peyton Wilson, and he's got nothing probably left

981
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 7: in his knees.

982
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 10: He's the best linebacker in the draft, the first off

983
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 10: the ballard.

984
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

985
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 7: If we would all say that he's we would all

986
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 7: say the third round that he's the best player.

987
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not speaking for you, I'm speaking for

988
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: myself here. I agree with you. You can talk for

989
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 3: me on that.

990
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 7: But I mean, this guy is so complete in the

991
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 7: way he plays, and all of a sudden, Dallas has

992
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 7: a history of doing this, and it kills me because

993
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 7: they get four or five years, six years out of

994
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 7: a guy.

995
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: And we saw it yesterday Leyton.

996
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 7: Vanderish, you know, and he had an injury history coming

997
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 7: out of Bois, you know, and it caught up. We've

998
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 7: had it happen several Cowboy players, linebackers. But you know what,

999
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 7: in the third round, if I wanted to go get

1000
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 7: a linebacker that was still sitting there of Peyton Wilson's

1001
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 7: still sitting there for North Carolina State, hand that damn

1002
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 7: card in.

1003
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Speaker 2: Please I'm too Yeah, all right, I want to take

1004
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Speaker 2: our second break.

1005
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Speaker 3: When we come back. We haven't talked a lot about

1006
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: the cornerback class. We haven't talked about some of these dbs.

1007
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: I want to do a positional spotlight with that. Who

1008
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: stands out?

1009
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: Where is the value any late risers among this cornerback class?

1010
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: When we come back right after this with more of

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you start things off here. Positional spotlight time.

1061
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: It's time to take a deep dive into the cornerback spot.

1062
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: Who stands out to you? Are there any names that

1063
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: we should keep an eye on?

1064
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, y'all, you know you can't say a Michigan player's

1065
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 9: name without people getting upset.

1066
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 6: But okay, Mike Sanders still got it.

1067
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 9: Okay, cool quarterback cornerback Michigan. I watched him last night

1068
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,479
Speaker 9: and we were talking about it even on the break.

1069
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 9: This is this might be the best nickel corner in

1070
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 9: this draft. He's so, he's he's It's interesting how he's

1071
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 9: able to stay square and bend. He's not the biggest,

1072
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 9: but he comes downhill and he plays big, very right.

1073
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 6: He's little nuts, very willing tackler.

1074
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 9: This gentleman started as a receiver, and I think you

1075
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 9: can see that in some of how he plays his keys.

1076
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 6: And he has versatility.

1077
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 9: I think he can play in multiple UH defensive coverages.

1078
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 9: I think he can do more. I don't know about

1079
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 9: the functional play strength just now. But I know he

1080
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 9: has a good feel. I think he's a fit. I

1081
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 9: know he can play man, but I think he could

1082
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 9: grow there. And obviously converted from wide receiver, it is

1083
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 9: gonna take him some time to get a little bit

1084
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 9: more feel for that. The short area of quickness is there,

1085
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 9: the burst and then acceleration to make plays, you know,

1086
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 9: on the ball, to play recognition. If you listen to

1087
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 9: some of the guys from even talking about the Senior Bowl,

1088
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 9: they were saying that he was calling out plays as

1089
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 9: they were getting into them. So the IQ's high with

1090
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 9: this gentleman also too, I think his transitions are things

1091
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 9: he can still work on. Again, this is still a

1092
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 9: somewhat raw player, but he just doesn't play that way.

1093
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 9: He plays with patience. He's exciting also too when you

1094
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 9: watch him. He bounces off the tape to you. So

1095
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 9: and again we talked about him playing nickel. I do

1096
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 9: think he has shown the ability to be able to

1097
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 9: track the ball and to not panic downfield when he

1098
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 9: is attacked downfield. But I think this gentleman could thrive

1099
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 9: as a nickel corner and really really make it difficult

1100
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 9: on some of these receivers because he plays with he

1101
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 9: gets his depth, he gets his leverage.

1102
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 6: He's just smart.

1103
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: It's yeah, he's happy.

1104
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot of he has upside and that's.

1105
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 9: Exciting because when you watch him, you're already like, dang,

1106
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 9: this do can play. But the fact that he has

1107
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 9: upside in room to grow makes him very intriguing.

1108
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably where the biggest concerns do lie. But

1109
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: you mentioned him starting his career a Michigan as receiver,

1110
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 4: and typically when we talk about guys that start the

1111
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: careers as receivers in college, there's a it's like okay, yeah,

1112
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 4: you know, that's what he was recruited as, but he

1113
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 4: couldn't really find his placement on the depth chart. Hey,

1114
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: let's try you on defense. Oh, you're really working there.

1115
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: That wasn't the case with Sanders Stiell. He was productive

1116
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 4: as a slot receiver for the Wolverines in his first

1117
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 4: two years. They move him to the defensive side, and

1118
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 4: he brings a receiver's knowledge to that defensive side because

1119
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: he's able to anticipate certain route concepts. He's really good

1120
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: as a nickel because he there's so much that you

1121
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 4: have to account for right there in the middle of

1122
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: the field as a nickel, and he knows what those

1123
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 4: receivers are trying to do. He brings a wealth of knowledge.

1124
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 4: There had a pretty good combine two four four seven

1125
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: forty forty inch vert ten eleven on the broad. I

1126
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: love Sandra still really.

1127
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: Do what you got. That guy nailed both of you guys.

1128
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: Great job on that.

1129
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 7: This guy is for old school people. This is Ronde

1130
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 7: Barber from the old Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Because this guy

1131
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 7: will blitz off the corner. You put him in the slot,

1132
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 7: he will hammer your ass, you know, and he has

1133
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 7: a timing. He has a sense of how to make

1134
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 7: it work. He plays very aware. He's you know, when

1135
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 7: you watch him, he's always going to put himself in position.

1136
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 7: I'd like to see him get his head around a

1137
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 7: little bit quicker sometimes. I think that, you know, early

1138
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 7: this season that was a little bit prompt. Towards the

1139
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 7: end of the season, you saw some improvement there. But

1140
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 7: there's some quick feet to him. There's some smoothness in

1141
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 7: the way he plays. I love the way he plays

1142
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 7: in the slot. I think that's his best spot in

1143
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 7: the NFL. He is an outstanding blitzer and if anybody

1144
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 7: knows about Rhndi Barber from the old Tampa days. You

1145
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 7: put him in the slot and then Nickel you blitz

1146
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 7: him and he was always coming up with a turnover.

1147
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 7: This guy's similar type of player that way.

1148
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a guy that I'm really

1149
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 4: starting to pay attention to that I think is going

1150
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 4: to be getting a lot of love here late in

1151
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: the process. Elijah Jones out of Boston College, six foot

1152
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 4: one and a half one hundred and eighty five pounds,

1153
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 4: more of a slender frame, but he blew the combine

1154
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: away with a four four four forty forty two and

1155
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: a half ver ten eleven on the broad and he

1156
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: was He turned a lot of heads after Indianapolis went

1157
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 4: back and watched him a little bit more. I got

1158
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 4: to talk to him a little bit in Nindy two.

1159
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: This is a smart, smart player and he plays with

1160
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 4: it on the outside. He's he doesn't do anything spectacular,

1161
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: but he does everything good. And I really love what

1162
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: I saw from Elijah Jones. I think he's a guy

1163
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 4: that's going to be valued more and more as this

1164
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: process goes on. He's he's a guy that a team

1165
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: would love to have at the boundary.

1166
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: First word I saw on his report instincts. I haven't

1167
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: watched him yet, so I'm just looking at online. But Zerline,

1168
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: who does a great job on NFL dot Com, says instincts,

1169
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: that's the first thing you pop up. So when you

1170
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: say he's a smart player, that's something there. You compare

1171
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: that his things with athleticism. I'm writing him down right now.

1172
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back and watch him tonight.

1173
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: Zach, who you.

1174
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 10: Got, man, There's so many different corners you could go

1175
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 10: with here, Andrew Phillips comes to mind. I'm gonna go

1176
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 10: with Kyrie Jackson Oregon. Yeah, he's a little bit different

1177
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 10: to some of these dudes we're talking about.

1178
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: Six four.

1179
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 10: You mentioned blitzing and I immediately thought Kyrie Jackson led

1180
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 10: Oregon with three picks last year.

1181
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: Ten.

1182
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, and he is an alpha, like he's an alpha

1183
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 10: that secondary transfer from Alabama, where he spent his sophomore

1184
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 10: in junior seasons. Played a lot of special teams there

1185
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 10: with the Tidies, big long, tall, boundary corner, really good Blitzer,

1186
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 10: willing to come up set the edge in the running game,

1187
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 10: can play press zone. I think he passes off coverages

1188
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 10: really well, moves and flips his hips. He's got fluidity

1189
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 10: there for its size. Really good athlete. He can get

1190
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 10: beat off the line in press when he doesn't get

1191
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 10: a jam or his feet are just a little bit

1192
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 10: slow to get turned around. I thought Jalen Polk gave

1193
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 10: him a bit of an issue there when he gave

1194
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 10: Polk a free release. He beats him for a touchdown

1195
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 10: in the game that I watched him play against Washington.

1196
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 10: But overall, he does a good job of mirroring receivers downfield,

1197
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 10: and he really does a good job of disrupting route

1198
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 10: timing because he's so physical with guys, so maybe not

1199
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 10: great long speed, He's a long strider, but I like

1200
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 10: the potential of him and Kyrie Jackson's one of these

1201
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 10: guys the confidence in an issue, plays with a lot

1202
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 10: of swagger. I love his play temperament. He's a fun

1203
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 10: player and certainly really really stands out to you when

1204
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 10: you watch that Oregon defense.

1205
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, reminds me a lot of Nation right when he

1206
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: was coming sure, Yeah, especially with the organized Oregon Oregon State.

1207
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 7: Jarvis Brownlee from a Louisville, Yeah, I like him. Is

1208
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 7: a five to nine and ninety four pound corner he's

1209
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 7: transferred from Florida State. He played boundary corner. And when

1210
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 7: I say boundary corner to you guys and you hear

1211
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 7: that phrase, it means they put him into the short

1212
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 7: side of the field, so they use the sideline as

1213
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 7: a little bit of some help over there. It plays

1214
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 7: that short side, so but they also use him in

1215
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 7: the slot that he's to me, I love the way

1216
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 7: he competes at the position. He's really good when he

1217
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 7: walks up on a receiver and he plays that man coverage.

1218
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 7: I think he's best when he's like this, you know what.

1219
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 7: The running aspect him might be a little bit off

1220
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 7: the Notre Dame Senter receiver out on the slot that

1221
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 7: went up and end up being a touchdown on but

1222
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 7: I do feel like he's got the quick feet.

1223
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: I think he's got some change of direction.

1224
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 7: I think he's more than willing to step up and

1225
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 7: that could play on the ball when it comes to tackling.

1226
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: He's not afraid to mix it up.

1227
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 7: He's got a good feet to mirror on the outside

1228
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 7: and stay with the receiver in the short and.

1229
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: Intermediate route areas. And the instincts I like well.

1230
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 7: And he's got a knack for always being around the

1231
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 7: siver and knocking the ball the way. So Jarvis Brownlee,

1232
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 7: he's a cornerback out of Louisville, is a guy that

1233
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 7: I would be like to mention.

1234
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 4: I'm going to Florida State, Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna

1235
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 4: throw out three names really quick, and then I'm going

1236
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 4: to ask y'all a specific question about one of these

1237
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 4: higher ranked guys that I'd love to get y'all's perspective

1238
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: on a couple of HBC you guys. I just want

1239
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 4: to show some love to Willy Drew out of Virginia State.

1240
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 4: He's been training with Mike Santra's still with the great

1241
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 4: dB trainer Jacory Nichols here in the Dallas area, so

1242
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 4: he's he's spent a lot of time in the area.

1243
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 4: Four four to six at the combine for Willie, he's

1244
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 4: a guy that's really starting to pick up some steamers.

1245
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 4: HBCU you guys go, and then you're talking about big

1246
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: guys at corner Mikey Victor out of Alabama State six

1247
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 4: three two o nine. He brings a lot of size

1248
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 4: to that outside. We talked about Quantes Stiggers about a

1249
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 4: month ago on this show. Just wanted to update the

1250
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 4: listeners on kind of where he had. Where he's at

1251
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: with his journey man. It sounds more and more every

1252
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: day like he's gonna get picked. So he had his

1253
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: pro day last week and had a really great showing.

1254
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 4: Twenty nine of the thirty two teams were there. The

1255
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: Cowboys were one of them. He's got ten thirty visits scheduled,

1256
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: so a lot of teams really interested in what he

1257
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 4: has to bring. It just feels like there's more good

1258
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 4: news stacking with him every single day out of.

1259
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: The CFL in Toronto. And where did he do his.

1260
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: Pro day was his own.

1261
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 4: He did it. He did it at his high school

1262
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 4: that he only had a thirty seven teammates or twenty

1263
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 4: seven teammates at when he was in high school, at

1264
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: the Best Academy and Atlanta. He did it right in

1265
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 4: between Georgia and Georgia Tech's pro day, so a lot

1266
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: of teams were able to swing through and make it.

1267
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: So it's really working out great scheduling on him today.

1268
00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 3: Shout out to.

1269
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 4: Shout out to his agent, Fred Lyles. We've gotten to

1270
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 4: interact with him a little bit. Just we're doing a big.

1271
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 3: Fit tread last year at the Combine.

1272
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's he's he's doing a really good job

1273
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 4: with handling contest stiggers and what he got going on.

1274
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 4: So the question I wanted to ask you about a

1275
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 4: specific highly ranked corner. I look at Nate Wiggins out

1276
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: of Clemson. I really love what he brings to the table.

1277
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 4: I think he's physical despite him being extremely slender, And

1278
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: that kind of leads into my question here. Came in

1279
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: at six seventy three at the Combine. I know the

1280
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 4: weight is concerning a lot of people. It's it's kind

1281
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 4: of the same question that you ask with Xavier Worthy.

1282
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 4: You know, if he ran a four to two three,

1283
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 4: are we talking about him being one hundred and sixty

1284
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: five pounds a little bit more? But talking about it

1285
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: on the defensive side. Nate Wiggins ran a four to

1286
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: two eight, and we're talking a lot about his weight

1287
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 4: coming out of the Combine. Granted he came back to

1288
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: Clemson's pro day last week and was one eighty eight,

1289
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 4: but how much of that is you know, water weight

1290
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 4: and realizing that you kind of have to weigh in

1291
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 4: at a pretty acceptable number for these scouts that are

1292
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 4: in attendance and plus you're in your own backyard, You're

1293
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: able to prep for a little bit better.

1294
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: But do you guys worry about.

1295
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 4: Having a slender corner in a league today where you

1296
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 4: need to be a little bit more physical than Finesse.

1297
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: We did that last year with.

1298
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 7: Our Mississippi States and he had a little bit of

1299
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 7: a rough year, uh, you know, with dealing with that.

1300
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 7: And I think over all the Commanders had a rough

1301
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 7: year on defense. And you know, and I'm not putting

1302
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 7: it all on the kid. I man, I kind of

1303
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 7: feel like with Wiggins, I kind of feel like he's

1304
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 7: a better zone corner than he is a man corner.

1305
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that, Yeah, I mean, and that's

1306
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 4: his style. I mean, that's why this size has been

1307
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 4: able to work.

1308
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: Physical.

1309
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 7: I've got the kid in the first round and I

1310
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 7: and I did it on the tape that I watched.

1311
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 7: And because I do see a guy with loose hips,

1312
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 7: I do see top end speed. I do see him

1313
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 7: getting moved. His socks move faster than everybody else's socks.

1314
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 3: On the field.

1315
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 7: You could see that on tape. And you know, but

1316
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 7: I mean he'll break on the ball. I've seen him

1317
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 7: wrap up as a tackler. I mean, the effort was good,

1318
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 7: so I were he refuses to give up on a play,

1319
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 7: and that's what I really appreciated about the kid. And

1320
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 7: I could see some people because of the way, are

1321
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 7: gonna are probably gonna ding him a little bit. But

1322
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 7: I think he plays fast. I think he plays quick.

1323
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 7: I think you're gonna he's gonna have to go to

1324
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 7: the right place that kind of understands it. Maybe he's

1325
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 7: a little bit better in zone coverage and then the

1326
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 7: slot stuff than he is playing man.

1327
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 6: Also too, I think it's gonna be important with him.

1328
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 9: I mean, because it is kind of crappy that Emanuel

1329
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 9: Forbes happened last year, and that's just kind of clear yet.

1330
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 9: But I also do think that we talked about it, it

1331
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 9: wasn't just there was a lot of things wrong with

1332
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 9: Washington's defense.

1333
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 11: I am.

1334
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 9: I think they will get some coaching, better coaching, especially

1335
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 9: on the secondary side of things. And that's my thing

1336
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 9: is with Wiggins is whoever takes him, if you are

1337
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 9: going to put weight on him, you have to be

1338
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 9: strategic and careful on how you do it. I don't

1339
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 9: think you don't want to take away from his speed

1340
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 9: and to Bryan's point. He still is coming up and

1341
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 9: tackling and things like that. It's not like I don't.

1342
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 3: Know struggles all blocks. It is the only thing with

1343
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 3: that size. But he is willing to come up and tackle.

1344
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 6: That's fair.

1345
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 9: So I think it's going to be scheme fit personally,

1346
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 9: and then also to deciding if put in weight on

1347
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 9: him is going to be beneficial or if it's going

1348
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 9: to hurt more, because I think it might hurt more

1349
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 9: because the speed and his anticipation in some of the

1350
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 9: things he's able to do because he's lighter is what

1351
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 9: makes him the player that he is.

1352
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: I've got one more name for you to throw out there.

1353
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: I'm want to see if you guys have watched him yet.

1354
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: How about Max Melton.

1355
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: I really like him a lot, A third round grade

1356
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 3: on him. I think he's a twitchy athlete.

1357
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: He had a phenomenal combine, ninety nine percent tile on

1358
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: the broad jump. He was a four to three nine

1359
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: record yes from Rutgers uh ninety four percent tile in

1360
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: the vertical, physical and aggressive despite just being five eleven

1361
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: one five, So he's got some size to him.

1362
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: The link is fine. I'm okay with the link.

1363
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: It's the physicality and the technice puts it at the

1364
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. I think there are times whenever his

1365
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: footwork gets sloppy, there's times when he is out of position,

1366
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: he bites on the double move.

1367
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: But overall, I think he's an athlete that you can teach.

1368
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: And you talked about growth ability, I he shue with

1369
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: some of these corners.

1370
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: I think he's another guy that has all the traits.

1371
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: He has some legitimate instincts.

1372
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: It's just technique that needs to be sharpened, and he's

1373
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: able to take a step forward and be a really

1374
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: good corner.

1375
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 7: In This kid US number sixteen. This kid has a

1376
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 7: knack for blocking kicks too. If you go back and

1377
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 7: look at his story that he on special teams he plays,

1378
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 7: he can get up on receivers really really tight and

1379
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 7: be very disruptive the way he plays. And then also

1380
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 7: see him playing zone and he pedals sideways, you know,

1381
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 7: like he gets like sideways and he's kind of dry

1382
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 7: and he's keeping everything into the middle of the field.

1383
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 7: So you've seen him kind of play either tight or

1384
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 7: in a zone, and he adapts, he really really does,

1385
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 7: and he gets his head around. He can locate the

1386
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 7: ball his ball skills are out standing. That's a great

1387
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 7: name to bring up. He knows how to finish place

1388
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 7: because the way he puts himself in position. I mentioned

1389
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 7: the special teams value there. I could see him being

1390
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 7: a nickel and a starter. And because of his aggressiveness,

1391
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 7: his toughness.

1392
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: I love the way this kid competes his brothers already

1393
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: in the league as well too, bow melting.

1394
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 4: You might remember him from a no. I love it,

1395
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 4: I love it, I love it. I do have one

1396
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 4: question before we get out of here. A couple of

1397
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 4: corners that I think could have some safety flex at

1398
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 4: the next level. TJ Tampa out of Iowa State, Ronardo

1399
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: Green out of floor.

1400
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: I keep not nowhere to put Green. Don't want to

1401
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: move TJ. Tampa. No, no, no, no.

1402
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 6: He's going to say he was one of the guys

1403
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 6: that I wanted to mention.

1404
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 3: Green.

1405
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: Drena is a difficult one. I think that's trouble. That's

1406
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 4: the guy you bring in the building and you play

1407
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: him out at some different.

1408
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 3: Positions and see what he wants training camp.

1409
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 7: He's gonna have a busy I kind of have a

1410
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 7: problem stacking him with the other guys.

1411
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 6: With the other corners.

1412
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, because because he's really I think he's really good,

1413
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 7: and but then some of the other guys think might

1414
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 7: be a little bit better.

1415
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: But then you read your notes and I'm like.

1416
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 7: His toughness, the thing that I saw about him that

1417
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 7: kind of scares me.

1418
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 3: I think he's a fifty to fifty guy on penalties.

1419
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 3: I think he's a.

1420
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 7: Grabby, clutchy, you know, kind of hang on to you guy,

1421
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 7: and he plays all over the place. He's competitive, he's

1422
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 7: a great he's not He's the type of player he's

1423
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 7: not afraid to play you tight, and he's going to

1424
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 7: compete for every ball.

1425
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: But man, I saw a grabby drape.

1426
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 7: Over the arm back across the receiver's back kind of

1427
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 7: a player.

1428
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 9: I think he's too fast for his own good sometimes,

1429
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 9: and I actually put I think he needs to play

1430
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 9: more under control at times. And I think I just

1431
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 9: think he's so fast that sometimes he's he's beating the

1432
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 9: receiver to the spot and things like that, and so

1433
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 9: you will see some of the grab he's too early.

1434
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm.

1435
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 3: Gonna I'm gonna send you my board and you can

1436
01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 3: put him where you think.

1437
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 6: But I do.

1438
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 9: We did get to see him at the Shrine Bowl,

1439
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 9: and I felt like he played pretty clean.

1440
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: Like he's so smart.

1441
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 10: I think he's looking for qes to where he can

1442
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 10: just jump on routes and sometimes he's just he's too

1443
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 10: early at it.

1444
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 9: And it's crazy too because he has pbu's but he

1445
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 9: doesn't take the ball away a lot. So I think

1446
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 9: that's also the other side of if you are, you better,

1447
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 9: you know, make a play on the ball. So I

1448
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 9: actually really like the player a whole bunch, especially because

1449
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 9: of what he's able to do with man and you're

1450
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 9: seeing him battle with neighbors.

1451
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: Was I'm gonna I'm gonna have him too low?

1452
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 6: That was done to see.

1453
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 3: But you're no, no, no, I love it. I mean

1454
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: you guys are I think you're right about the player.

1455
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 3: I really do.

1456
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna talk to you Nick.

1457
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for us here on the Draft Show.

1458
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun, guys. Thanks for the debate,

1459
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 3: Thanks for the names. Did a nice job in this

1460
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 3: corner position. Got some corner has talked about.

1461
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 4: We're gonna keep doing some position spout lights.

1462
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 3: On Thursday's stopping on corners. I'm done, Brian's gonna do

1463
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 3: uh some would you rather? On Thursday? You gotta bring

1464
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: back would you rather? That was a popular segment from

1465
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: a couple of days ago. Thank you guys, than with Bobby.

1466
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 10: Jobby super Bb taking garbage.

1467
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: For Zach Wilchuck, Nick Harris, Brian brought us Ayisha Morrison.

1468
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeoman saying.

1469
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 3: So long from the Draft show. We will see you

1470
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: on Thursday.

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01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,520
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