Speaker 1: Welcome to Carefully Reckless, the production of Our Heart Radio
Speaker 1: and the Black Effect, And just like that, we're back
Speaker 1: on the air. Welcome back to yet another Carefully Reckless
Speaker 1: episode which your girl just hilarious. We're gonna jump straight
Speaker 1: into just fix My mess now. This is very interesting
Speaker 1: because one of my girls sent me something. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna call you my girl, because I don't want to
Speaker 1: see your name. This story is very heartfelt. I definitely
Speaker 1: can help you. I think I can. But she sent
Speaker 1: in voice notes, which I want to tell you, guys,
Speaker 1: if you're listening, that's much easier than me reading your story,
Speaker 1: and it also adds more value to your story because
Speaker 1: then I get to hear the emotion through your story
Speaker 1: that you're telling me. So start sending voice notes if
Speaker 1: you want. If you don't want me to hear your voice,
Speaker 1: you can send texts. I mean, you know, you can
Speaker 1: send messages. You can type it. But I think it's
Speaker 1: very interesting and I really love that she sent voice notes.
Speaker 1: She does not mind that I put her voice on
Speaker 1: my podcast. So she says, Okay, Jess, you already get
Speaker 1: you all a drink. This ship about to be crazy, Okay,
Speaker 1: Just so I'm also from the d n V area,
Speaker 1: so let's just get to us. So a little bit
Speaker 1: over a year ago, my head met this guy. We
Speaker 1: was both working at the same job. He worked the
Speaker 1: shift after me, so he would study coming in for
Speaker 1: like a good three weeks. He would come in like
Speaker 1: twenty minutes early to sit there and talk to me.
Speaker 1: You know, he would just chop it up with me
Speaker 1: or whatever. So at first, I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to talk to him. I had
Speaker 1: just already got out of five year relationship, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to sound like it always seems like I
Speaker 1: need to be in a relationship because I love myself,
Speaker 1: but I just love the feeling of being loved by
Speaker 1: somebody else because I have so much love, Like I
Speaker 1: have a lot of love to give. But anyway, I
Speaker 1: started talking to him, like we get serious fast. So
Speaker 1: I have two children and he has this one child.
Speaker 1: So during our relationship, his baby mother was toxic. She
Speaker 1: would call at two am for dick, which he never
Speaker 1: answered it. But it was still very toxic. You know,
Speaker 1: it's still disrespectful. Like I try to kind of stay
Speaker 1: out of it because they can't co parent for anything.
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to make it worse. But she's
Speaker 1: very childish, she's very immature. They have a baby that's
Speaker 1: like not even three, so it's already still fresh emotion.
Speaker 1: Like I'm very aware, I'm not naive to people's feelings,
Speaker 1: Like I'm a human myself. I understand things. So you know,
Speaker 1: she would just do ignorant ship, ratchet ship. She in
Speaker 1: real bucket for real. So we're just dealing with that
Speaker 1: in our relationship, like everybody's rooting for us to win,
Speaker 1: like we're a perfect couple. So about our tenth month in,
Speaker 1: remind you, we're only day for eleven months, almost a year.
Speaker 1: So our tenped month in, this girl has a child.
Speaker 1: It's a little boy. Come to find out, it is
Speaker 1: my boyfriend's and it is also his baby mother's cousin.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about a cousin on the line.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like because I'm like, y'all got the
Speaker 1: same grandma at the end of the day, Like it's
Speaker 1: a big family, but y'all still cousins. So that was
Speaker 1: a hard pill to swallow. So I felt like around
Speaker 1: like our last month together, like it really made me
Speaker 1: step away, Like it really made me step back, and
Speaker 1: like I understood, like what kind of man I had
Speaker 1: in front of me now, But it was like his
Speaker 1: consequences that was catching up to him. So like in
Speaker 1: our last month, I was transitioned more from a girlfriend
Speaker 1: into more of the friend because I felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody has something to say. Everybody has a fucking opinion.
Speaker 1: Everybody has to speak on something, whether it is or
Speaker 1: it's not. You know, if if it's writer, it's wrong.
Speaker 1: You know you should have never slept with that girl.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, that's something that
Speaker 1: you made that cannot be undone. So like it's really
Speaker 1: have driven us in between each other. But honestly, and
Speaker 1: nobody even knows this, my mom does. But I still
Speaker 1: have been seeing him. He told me he haven't went
Speaker 1: back with them, but like he's moved away, but when
Speaker 1: he comes here, like I see him, I let him
Speaker 1: stay at my house. I fucking retwist his dreads for
Speaker 1: him for free, I make dinner for him, I do
Speaker 1: wife ship. But I heard that he was also sleeping
Speaker 1: with somebody close to my family. So and now it's
Speaker 1: like it's a vicious cycle going on. Like I kind
Speaker 1: of knew from day one, like maybe I should have
Speaker 1: talked to him, but I gave up a chance. But
Speaker 1: now I was like, you're sleeping with my cousin, And
Speaker 1: it's just crazy because like he projects all his tendencies
Speaker 1: and his ways on the me, so it's like he
Speaker 1: don't understand, like he's telling on himself and I see it,
Speaker 1: Like and I asked me if he's sleeping with her.
Speaker 1: You know, people say a lot, but as you the
Speaker 1: man that I'm sleeping with, like you should be honest
Speaker 1: and be able to tell me the truth. But that
Speaker 1: cycle that you've been doing, you haven't been able to
Speaker 1: be honest with anybody or yourself less be real. So
Speaker 1: now I'm kind of at the point like I'm tired
Speaker 1: to be in disrespect to Like I know, I don't
Speaker 1: hold him down to the world, like I know I'm
Speaker 1: not on broadcast that I see him, but I feel
Speaker 1: like it could be very detrimental to me if I
Speaker 1: said that, just in the sense that there's no loyalty
Speaker 1: with me for me when it comes to the situation,
Speaker 1: and it's like when he like writes me, it's like
Speaker 1: I'm always the one that steady talking about I miss you.
Speaker 1: Where he's always just like I miss you too, but
Speaker 1: it's never that sentimental stuff that I'm getting out of him.
Speaker 1: And now I was like the text messages like they're
Speaker 1: so disrespectful, but it's hard and I don't know if
Speaker 1: anybody going to understand me. But like it's so ties evolve,
Speaker 1: like I feel like I need to block these, like
Speaker 1: I ain't never had a soul tie. And honestly, I've
Speaker 1: been in love a lot of times. I've been hurt
Speaker 1: a lot of times, but I never haven't had somebody
Speaker 1: having so much emotion over me. Like it's just like
Speaker 1: able to channel my energy to trigger my energy like
Speaker 1: so fast, Like it's really soul times attached, like he
Speaker 1: probably know right now I write you on this podcast,
Speaker 1: like it's we're so entwined with each other, like our
Speaker 1: frequencies are so crazy in the spiritual room, but here
Speaker 1: on earth is fucked up, tough pill to swallow. I
Speaker 1: don't know, Joss, tell me what you think got should do.
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to go see somebody like
Speaker 1: spiritual and just like have soul ties removed or I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's all over my head, but yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna stop your message right there, because the
Speaker 1: last thing that you said is literally what I want
Speaker 1: to say to you, what I want you to keep repeating, repeating, repeating,
Speaker 1: because you make your reality what it's supposed to be,
Speaker 1: not him. You're giving him way too much power over you.
Speaker 1: But before I get there, Yes, this is all in
Speaker 1: your head, baby, this ship is in your head. There
Speaker 1: is no way that you could be tied equally, yoked,
Speaker 1: tied together with a soul like that. You're not even
Speaker 1: getting loyalty reciprocated, like nothing that you do is reciprocated.
Speaker 1: As I sit and I kept my mouth shut for
Speaker 1: a long time. That's my third time listening to that.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to put it on the podcast, of course,
Speaker 1: because that is why you sent it here. Starting from
Speaker 1: the beginning, Baby mother calling him at two am for Dick,
Speaker 1: you can't even blame her for that. You have him
Speaker 1: to blame for that, because she's still getting it. She
Speaker 1: never stopped getting it. They just not together, but she
Speaker 1: never stopped getting at Dick. That's why she is so
Speaker 1: comfortable calling him all times of night, all times of day,
Speaker 1: asking to be fucked. That's never gonna go away as
Speaker 1: long as he keeps fucking with her. Nobody's just doing that. Now.
Speaker 1: There are baby mother baby father relationships where this happens.
Speaker 1: A woman is delusional and never gets over the guy
Speaker 1: and still tries her hand years and years down the
Speaker 1: damn line. However, this guy is still dealing with his
Speaker 1: baby mother. Okay, the daughter is three, she's still so
Speaker 1: young and precious. You even said it. There are still
Speaker 1: feelings there and you know that. But you are not
Speaker 1: one to judge. You're not one to just make that
Speaker 1: a deal breaker, although you need to. He's somewhat obligated
Speaker 1: to her, and he uses that as leverage to funk
Speaker 1: with this girl. And that's why, whether she's a bucket
Speaker 1: or a ratchet bitch or a clown or not whatever
Speaker 1: bottom mother told him po as bitch, whatever she is,
Speaker 1: he gonna keep on fucking with her, so you can't
Speaker 1: even get angry with her. Moving on, you said we're
Speaker 1: the perfect couple. People are rooting for us. Just because
Speaker 1: someone is rooting for you does not mean that is
Speaker 1: where you need to be. Just because you look like
Speaker 1: a perfect couple, just because the image is held up,
Speaker 1: just because he's mine and you sexy, just because the
Speaker 1: Dick is good. Just because y'all look good together does
Speaker 1: not make y'all a good couple. And I know that's
Speaker 1: exactly what you meant when you said people are rooting
Speaker 1: for you. Where the perfect couple? I bet these people
Speaker 1: that's doing all the rooting don't know what you just
Speaker 1: told me. And when they hear this ship, they're going
Speaker 1: to take back all the roots today then put out
Speaker 1: there for y'all. All right, another baby, another baby? You
Speaker 1: just found out he had an eleven month old by
Speaker 1: his baby mother's cousin. You think you sold tied to
Speaker 1: somebody like that? No, seriously, you think there's a spiritual
Speaker 1: anything and that. No, you said it was a hard
Speaker 1: pill to swallow. Why did you swallow it? Why these
Speaker 1: are choices. These are choices that you can make or not.
Speaker 1: You don't have control over your life right now. That's
Speaker 1: the problem. You put it in his hands. You should
Speaker 1: have never swallowed the pill. You don't have to. You
Speaker 1: also made it a point to say you transitioned from
Speaker 1: the girlfriend to the friend, but you didn't. It sounds good.
Speaker 1: That's what you may have wanted to do. That's what
Speaker 1: you should have done, and you know you should have
Speaker 1: you actually shouldn't even be this motherfucker's friend. But you
Speaker 1: didn't make the transition because you later on went explaining
Speaker 1: that you still do wife ship for him, even after
Speaker 1: finding out that he even slept with your cousin. And damn,
Speaker 1: what kind of cousin is ship ship? We know the
Speaker 1: nick ain't no good because he damn show ain't a man.
Speaker 1: What the hell is your cousin thinking? That's another story
Speaker 1: either way? Back on you hold up, hold up, I
Speaker 1: know the ship getting good, But listen to just a
Speaker 1: couple of seconds of a commercial with you love me.
Speaker 1: You'll listen. You're still seeing them, and you're ashamed to
Speaker 1: let people know. And you know why. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: give me no bullshit talking about Oh, I don't care
Speaker 1: nobody thinking that. You know, people don't think what they
Speaker 1: want to think, and people, the the, the, the, no.
Speaker 1: People care about you. I don't even know you, and
Speaker 1: I care about you. I care so much about you. Yes,
Speaker 1: I am judging your ass. I am, I am, and
Speaker 1: only God can judge. But people do it every day.
Speaker 1: It's natural, we do it. I'm judging you because you're
Speaker 1: better than this, You're smarter than this. You have to
Speaker 1: be because you're telling me everything that I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: You just still won't let it go. What needs to happen.
Speaker 1: He's lying. You don't want to tell anybody that you're
Speaker 1: seeing him because you're belittling yourself even being with him still,
Speaker 1: because oh you with him. He ain't only with you,
Speaker 1: but you with him. He has your mind, he has
Speaker 1: your body, he has your heart. When somebody got your mind,
Speaker 1: that's different. Banks said, I ain't got time for lesl
Speaker 1: You know, made my dog walk out the room with
Speaker 1: this ship. Look he didn't got up and walked away.
Speaker 1: He has your mind. He has so much power over you.
Speaker 1: You said he doesn't know loyalty, but your excuse was
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to be loyal to anyone. So
Speaker 1: how the hell is that recipe for soul tie? How
Speaker 1: do you feel that you two are connected in the
Speaker 1: spiritual realm? You really need to tell me this. I
Speaker 1: want you to check back in with me. How do
Speaker 1: you feel you're not even his priority? You're not his first, second,
Speaker 1: or third priority. You know why because you've made it
Speaker 1: so easy for him to keep playing these fucking games
Speaker 1: with you time after time after time. And then the
Speaker 1: way you the way you described it, it sounds like
Speaker 1: he doesn't even live in the same city as you.
Speaker 1: If you can't trust the nigga in the same house
Speaker 1: with you, you're never going to be able to trust
Speaker 1: him in the same city with you. Seriously, I want
Speaker 1: you to wake up, baby girl. You didn't tell me
Speaker 1: how old you were, but I can honestly tell that
Speaker 1: you're young. You're not a baby, but I can tell
Speaker 1: that you're still a young lady. You have a lot
Speaker 1: of love to give, and I'm gonna correct you. In
Speaker 1: the beginning, you also said, I know it always seems
Speaker 1: like that I have to be in a relationship. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's totally fine. Baby. I'm the same way. I love
Speaker 1: myself to death, I do, but I love the feeling
Speaker 1: of someone else loving me as well. So I resonate
Speaker 1: with you when I hear you say that I'm always
Speaker 1: in a relationship. When the hell have y'all seen just single?
Speaker 1: I mean on stage, I'm single because you know I
Speaker 1: do a lot of stand up comedy material. You know
Speaker 1: that's meant for the stage. So I'm single on stage
Speaker 1: when I step off, I'm a girlfriend. I haven't been
Speaker 1: in in successful relationships and then something that I have.
Speaker 1: I've been cheated on as well as I've been the cheater.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been lied to and I've lied to others.
Speaker 1: You date, you love being in relationships, it's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. You've got some people that loves being single,
Speaker 1: love playing the field. You've got some people that just
Speaker 1: love having sex with multiple people. You've got some people
Speaker 1: that just love having the roster of niggas that they
Speaker 1: just talked to, don't do nothing with, get money from.
Speaker 1: Then you got your people that love being in relationships.
Speaker 1: That's me, that's also my sister. My sister has been
Speaker 1: on this podcast plenty of times. We're open with our
Speaker 1: business so we can help people like you. Listen, this
Speaker 1: is not it because you have to sit and you
Speaker 1: have to think, what do you want? How do you feel?
Speaker 1: You don't need to go see a professional to release
Speaker 1: you from him. You release your damn self. That's it.
Speaker 1: And I know I know you're saying, oh, it's easier
Speaker 1: said than done, it's easier said than done. It is,
Speaker 1: but if you keep saying it to yourself, you will
Speaker 1: do it. You have to put that in your atmosphere.
Speaker 1: You have to control your own reality, control your own reality,
Speaker 1: your own love life. You've never been through anything like this.
Speaker 1: I can tell girl, you sound all congested and ship.
Speaker 1: Go blow your damn nose, look in the mirror and
Speaker 1: talk to yourself. You don't even need to do anything
Speaker 1: else from you making dinner, twisting this nigga Dred's and
Speaker 1: all of that. He didn't have a baby on you
Speaker 1: had a baby before. You keep sucking a mother fucked
Speaker 1: your cousin and you're talking about your soul tied. Get
Speaker 1: yourself together for real and check back. And you need
Speaker 1: to leave that ship. Leave it given a man power
Speaker 1: over you like that and heat a motherfucking bum. Yes
Speaker 1: he is, he's a bum. You know what I was
Speaker 1: gonna tell you when you wrote me for this ship.
Speaker 1: Maybe you just needed to hear it from someone else.
Speaker 1: You needed to hear it from me or someone else.
Speaker 1: I get it. I see you, I feel you, and listen,
Speaker 1: I love you, just from sister to sister. Baby girl,
Speaker 1: I love you, and I'm gonna tell you who else
Speaker 1: is gonna love you. The right man out there waiting
Speaker 1: for you, not that nigga. There's gonna be a point
Speaker 1: in your life where somebody can't wait to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Somebody can't wait to see you. Somebody can't wait to
Speaker 1: get home to you. Somebody can't wait to put a
Speaker 1: baby and you. Somebody can't wait to put a ring
Speaker 1: on your fucking finger. There's gonna be a time I'm
Speaker 1: telling you right now that ain't gonna be with him
Speaker 1: all right now when you meet the person that you're
Speaker 1: really gonna be so tit with. That don't mean that
Speaker 1: he's gonna be perfect either, but he damn sure ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be this nigga. So don't look for perfection. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you ain't been looking for that ship. You've been looking
Speaker 1: for the bottom of the most bottom of sniggers. But
Speaker 1: work on yourself. Take a break because you are mentally drained.
Speaker 1: Some abou ch'all soul tide girl. He's sucking your soul.
Speaker 1: He is a soul sucker. That's why you feel like
Speaker 1: your soul is tied to him and we're we're operating
Speaker 1: on the same frequency. No, you're not, No, you're not somebody.
Speaker 1: He probably know that you're writing me for this podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably know, because he know everything about you. You
Speaker 1: don't know his next move. I guarantee you you don't.
Speaker 1: That's when you soul tied. When you can answer a
Speaker 1: question for a motherfucker, when you can think for another
Speaker 1: motherfucker that that's when you sold tied with somebody that's
Speaker 1: a soul mate. I can make decisions on behalf of
Speaker 1: my soul mate when he's not here that you can't
Speaker 1: do that with him. He can do that for you
Speaker 1: because you put everything in his hands. You've given him
Speaker 1: everything to destroy you. And the only way somebody can
Speaker 1: destroy you is if you give them everything. And you've
Speaker 1: given them everything you, he has nothing else to ache
Speaker 1: from you. So he plays with that and he holds
Speaker 1: it over your head because you know you're gonna be
Speaker 1: there with your arms wide the funk open, understanding everything.
Speaker 1: Get your life together, seriously, your love life. That is
Speaker 1: not your whole life. But ship girl, check back in
Speaker 1: with me. Ship that's almost the whole damn podcast. I
Speaker 1: can't believe that ship. I'm gonna do one more because
Speaker 1: she didn't took up all y'all's time, y'all, but she
Speaker 1: needed some fixing. I'm gonna read one more story than
Speaker 1: we out of here. Hey, Joss, I hope you're able
Speaker 1: to take this one huge fan of the podcast. Thank you, baby.
Speaker 1: I have a situation i'd like to get your opinion on.
Speaker 1: I've been with my man for a little over two
Speaker 1: years now, and he is amazing. We lived together and
Speaker 1: he's a great step dad to my five year old son. Well,
Speaker 1: he has a best friend, white girl for contacts, that
Speaker 1: he's really close to. They've been friends for years, and
Speaker 1: she calls him brother. Once I came around, he introduced
Speaker 1: me to her and we were cool. But I have
Speaker 1: a gut feeling that she has a thing for him
Speaker 1: now that he's in a relation and ship. Nothing has
Speaker 1: happened thus far, but it's in my guts. Well, then
Speaker 1: you're most likely right. I've asked him about it and
Speaker 1: he says that they've never had a thing and he
Speaker 1: would never go there with her. He's always telling me
Speaker 1: that she's looking for a rich man, even if he's married,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Am I wrong for feeling uneasy about this,
Speaker 1: even though he has reassured me should I bust this
Speaker 1: ship up? Thanks again for taking my dilemma. Love Love
Speaker 1: Love the podcast. Also, both him and I are black.
Speaker 1: I didn't mention that above, Okay, I mean I figured
Speaker 1: that when you said his best friend was white. I mean,
Speaker 1: you would have told me that your boyfriend was white. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I really honestly don't feel like this is a really,
Speaker 1: really bad thing. Now. What can be happening is, yes,
Speaker 1: she has a thing for him, but he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a thing for her. I'm not trying to be, you know,
Speaker 1: one of them, but you know they love our men
Speaker 1: the white easy. Yes they do. That don't mean that
Speaker 1: he's attracted to her just because she's attracted to him.
Speaker 1: She may have had a thing for him. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think that they've done anything. I think I don't
Speaker 1: think he would lie about it. Have you ever had
Speaker 1: a conversation with her? Just y'all too alone about the ship?
Speaker 1: Have you ever bought it up? I don't think you
Speaker 1: should go busting up and up, crazy ass. I don't.
Speaker 1: I think you should take your man's word, but I
Speaker 1: do think that you should also tell him again just
Speaker 1: revisit the idea, but revisit it in a different way. Say, listen,
Speaker 1: I do believe you, and this is only if you
Speaker 1: do believe that. I believe you. Baby. I did ask you,
Speaker 1: did you have any previous intimate connections with your best
Speaker 1: friend or was it just strictly best friends for you?
Speaker 1: And I believed you when you told me no, But
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the same on her end. I
Speaker 1: think that she has a thing for you. And although
Speaker 1: you tell me that she's looking for rich niggas and
Speaker 1: all that type of ship and married niggas and she
Speaker 1: just all out there and ship, I still want you
Speaker 1: to know that doesn't negate the fact that she still
Speaker 1: may have a thing for you her best friend, and
Speaker 1: she's probably so used to him being single or being
Speaker 1: in between relationships or whatever, she just may like him
Speaker 1: better when he's single. She may feel like she's closer
Speaker 1: to having a chance or whatever. You can't blame him
Speaker 1: for that, though, and you didn't say that you did.
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know you can't blame him for that.
Speaker 1: But I think you should sit down and have a
Speaker 1: conversation with him and tell him, Look, I want to
Speaker 1: talk to her, or I think that you used to
Speaker 1: keep an eye open her, or I'm just uncomfortable with
Speaker 1: the bitch being your best friend period, although she was
Speaker 1: before me. I have a gut feeling, and when women
Speaker 1: have gut feelings, honey, we'll be right for the most part,
Speaker 1: all right, because I've been not and had some ship
Speaker 1: in my gut a couple of times, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: right about it, and even pieces of Dick honey, and
Speaker 1: I ain't been right. So um, I think that's just
Speaker 1: a communication thing, that's all, because you're very uneasy about it,
Speaker 1: and I think the only way that you can fix
Speaker 1: that is having a conversation with him and then having
Speaker 1: a conversation word should. You said, y'all were cool enough,
Speaker 1: be cool enough to listen to my concerns and should
Speaker 1: about the closeness of you and my boyfriend. All right,
Speaker 1: And just like that, we are going to end this
Speaker 1: episode on that note. Oh my god, the first story
Speaker 1: was crazy, y'all, wasn't it? Again? Like I said in
Speaker 1: the beginning, my baby girl in the beginning, she sent
Speaker 1: me voice notes if you don't want to type, or
Speaker 1: if it's too much to type, because I am getting
Speaker 1: so many essays, these got them stories are getting longer
Speaker 1: and longer, y'all. I wish y'all could just send me
Speaker 1: the voice notes. If y'all don't prefer to, I do understand,
Speaker 1: and I will read them therefore, okay, But if not,
Speaker 1: if it's easier if you don't care about anybody hearing
Speaker 1: your voice on the podcast. Make sure you just go
Speaker 1: ahead and send on the voice notes. I will not
Speaker 1: let them know who you are. Everybody is going to
Speaker 1: remain anonymous again. I hope I am really fixing y'all's
Speaker 1: mess and tune in each and every Wednesday seven am
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